I've been told by other "experts", at other sites that I couldn't burn vegetable oil. I appreciate your experiments. I don't have much vegetable oil to burn, but I appreciate not having to throw away rancid oil that will work perfectly well, as fuel. It also seems that old gasoline (petrol) that is no longer suitable for use in cars and lawn equipment, can be mixed 50/50 with diesel, and burn quite efficiently. I have three antique cars that I don't drive enough. This second option gives me a third fuel stream.
Old petrol and diesel mix certainly. Veg oil just doesn't like to burn in these heaters. It always leaves residue. Maybe 10% veg and the rest diesel would at least use up the veg oil and at that ratio keep the heater running longer before cleans.
Thanks for doing this test. I have been interested in one of these as a domestic heater. Here in Oz, petrol is about $1.30L. Electricity is about .30C Kwh. A litre of veg or Petrol has around 10Kwh of energy. If one could burn 50% petrol and waste Veg, this would cost .6.5C per kwh of heat. MUCH cheaper than using electricity. One thing I would always recommend with using waste veg, DRY it first. Veg and diesel have almost identical energy but Veg is Hygroscopic. That dissolved water takes up some of the space the fuel would otherwise and when in the fuel, changes the burn pattern. OTOH, it -may - have a cleaning effect on the combustion chamber. I use water injection on diesels running veg and I can turn them up to get big power and the water keeps them perfectly clean and I don't stick the rings as would certainly happen otherwise. Perhaps injecting a small drip of water from a timed pump in the air intake would also keep these heaters clean when running waste Veg or engine oil? Engines that have a regular dose of water are so clean inside you would swear they had been polished with a rag when you pull the heads. You do NOT need the water micromisted as a lot of the commercial WI companies will brainwash you to buy their expensive pumps, a regular drip or course spray will do fine. Droplets entering the combustion chamber work BETTER for cleaning purposes than having the water phase changed before it gets in there. I think the heat loss would be negligible if at all in one of these heaters if admitted in the AIR intake due to the design of the heater and the way the HE works. Putting water in the air intake is a LOT different to having it in the fuel. Could be something interesting to try in a vid.
Hey. I've watched most of your videos. They helped inspire my first waste oil burner build. I used to clean the engine on my old Isuzu Trooper by spraying water into the intake out of a squeezy bottle when I ran it on veg oil. Maybe I should try the same with little heater and see what happens. Great to hear from you.
Petrol here in Italy is €1.56 (Au$2.53) a liter. Fresh new vegetable oil can be bought for as little as €0.80 on sale. Usually it's €1. Diesel is €1.45 (Au$2.35) a liter. Running 100% vegetable oil would save 30% or more over diesel. Not sure about kerosene. I'd like to see a test starting the heater on diesel and hot switching over to 100% vegetable oil.
Love your experimentation and playing around vids. I've been wanting to get one of these for quite some time and I finally picked one up. Should be much easier to heat my shop with it than my homemade diesel burner. (It was a waste oil burner but that was toooooo dirty and maintenance intensive to clean up.)
I don't no about a short supply of vegetables oil but there seems to be a very short supply of brains here. I don't need to tell anyone with an ounce of brains not to go any where near this .petrol is highly inflamable it is the vapour off petrol that can ignite from ten yards away or more give this one a miss leave it alone stay safe. willemog.
Em don't you mean flammable ?? Detonate from 10 yards away ,how ? What movie were you watching ? Is it the one where someone tossed a lit cigarette into a bucket of gasoline ? Contrary to popular belief that doesn't do anything besides snuff out the cigarette. However an electric spark in an enclosed area filled with vapors would definitely do it.
Funny enough I used to run my old 1967 2 1/4 diesel Land Rover short wheel base for over 5 years on between a 40/60 and 50/50 mixture of veggie oil and petrol from scrap cars and it ran perfectly for the entire 5 years...
The next logical ratio to try would be 60:40 For used crankcase oil, I fine filter it first. For these tasks, I use a smaller all glass syringe. I usually pump brake fluid with it. When I do brake pads, before I push the piston back, I raise the rubber dust boot with a small screw driver, I then pump in 3-5 CC of old brake fluid, left over from when I bleed the brakes. Then I use a "C" clamp to retract the piston and a rag to catch the excess brake fluid. The fluid lub the caliper cylinder wall, and since I started that decades ago, and we use salt for de icings on roads, (YYZ) I never have anymore seized calipers. My mechanic friends hate it, said it takes jobs away from him. You can get fluid from the master cylinder, but it must be the same brake fluid, using engine oil or WD , kerosene, you be looking at a major brake overhaul before the week is over.
ive been running my cars on bio since 2005, , so decided to try it in my 2kw heater and brand new 5kw one, 100% bio in all cases , both have done over 5 hours ok so far, although both smoked more when warming up, , so suspect if ran on bio for long periods of months may carbon up
Hey David, how about starting on diesel and after burn chamber is heated switching to veg oli mix? I was thinking about making two separate fuel lines (so two pumps and tanks) and Y connection as close to burn chaimber as possible . So instead of 2 way valve use Y connector and just switch power from diesel line pump to veg mix pump and use simple temperature switch?
IM going to name you Mr. Gadget !! I get a kick out off many times you keep doing more things with that heater ! I could tell from the first test one that you did, that you thought it was pretty cool !! Good luck "DOCTOR"
Vegetable oil only works well as a fuel for old diesel engines if the oil is pre-heated at least above 60ºC...if you pre-heat you can have even a greater percentage of vegetable oil... ;)
Iv run many old diesels on veg oil but never pre heated it even though people said to do so. My current campervan has also got a full tank and it rarely moves. I'd of thought by now it would of solidified but surely enough last week she fired straight up and I drove her around 5 miles
@@c4r5on88 I travelled a long time ago with some friends in an old Mercedes 407 D from the south of France to Portugal only running on recycled kitchen oil filtered and decanted in a warmed tank by recirculating the water heater circuit on a coil in the vegetable oil tank...It worked smoothly leaving an intense smell of French fries every time we stop along the way...
@@TheBigChill1 I bet that was brilliant :) we was hoping to travel Europe in ours and end up in Bulgaria however unfortunately covid shut the world down 😂 so my poor campervan has not been finished as I was rebuilding her. I'm in the uk it's a 79 dodge sportsman RV and originally had a 7.2 litre v8 with a auto box. She's now got a 1989 iveco sofim 8140 2.5 turbo diesel with a manual gearbox so she can run on veg oil and also fuel made from waste plastic. Hopefully 1 day I can make similar memories to yourself :) also I love those old mercs
@@c4r5on88 Yup...almost all the old engines can work with vegetable oil and other recycled fuels...as the diesel pump is robust enough to take the extra "load"... Old Merc's, Ivecos and Ford's all can be run on "Eco Diesel"... Almost all the "hippie" community use it nowadays here in Europe...but, in some of the EU countries is not quite legal to use vegetable oils as fuel...States are much more interested on protecting their taxes profits on the diesel...so they make it "illegal" to use alternative fuels like in my own country...Portugal
Doesn't bio deisel take an actual process to make it???? But you can use 90% used motor oil and 10% gasoline mix is called black diesel and it will work in that.
is there a modification that can be done to run better on a higher WVO ratio. I know this isn't a engine, but even WVO engine conversions need some mods to work on a high to full WVO, things like pre-heating the oil, hotter plugs, better injectors etx. The best thing to do with the WVO is to turn it into bio diesel, this way you dont need to fiddle about with mixtures and its as "pure" as dino diesel, but runs "cleaner". Bio diesel can be cheaper if you add a process to reclaim some of the chemicals and solutions used up in producing biodiesel.
@Antibody Entertainment - Using biodiesel is all fine and well but homemade bio-d requires quite a few additional steps and also additional chemicals, which not only increases cost but also needs to be mixed in proper ratios, and if the ratios are off, you'll end up with a wasted botched batch of bio-d that won't burn. Also, when making DIY bio-d, there's a fair amount of glycerin produced/leftover that doesn't get converted to bio-d, which further lowers your bio-d yield. "Fiddling around with mixtures" (or pre-heating the veg- oil) is actually better as it allows you to "pour and play" much faster than making bio-d. Once you have your veg-oil and petrol dialed in and burning well, you can easily mix up a big batch that will last awhile. DIY bio-d really only makes sense if you plan on producing it large quantities and/or can get away with selling some on the side to help recoupe time and money spent on materials.
that's really interesting. I was thinking the 70/30 would have been good but its nice to know now. I ran motor oil diesel mix that had been cleaned in a centrifuge and yes its still too dirty. but now i wonder about trying used oil and gasoline if it might coke up a bit less and blow the fine ash out? its just fun to play
It might also depend on the veg oil. That was new rapeseed oil. A used oil, or oil from a different plant might have different results with the petrol mix.
@@DavidMcLuckie Many thanks for reply. I've found your other videos on the subject of fuel and its great. Just for info we have been running our Diesel heaters for over a year now and not had any problems with sooting etc. We have found the black rubber fuel pipe doesn't last long and goes brittle not sure if paraffin or just poor quantity pipe. Cheers from George and Jane 👍
Is there anything non-petrol based to thin veg oil? I would like to run a small 2KW unit to preheat my car and defrost it but would rather not have a tank full of diesel in the trunk and the fumes that go along with that .
Hi David I have a supply of heating oil which I guess is similar to kerosene. As this supposedly burns cleaner than diesel, do you think it would be more efficient to use and less smelly ?
@@kabruzoeldanto8671 on road low sulfur diesels only difference to off road diesel and fuel oil is off road and fuel oil has been colored red and dose not have the on road highway tax applied to it
Heating oil simply doesn't have additives for lubrication not sure if they removed the sulfur they do on road fuel in the United States it acts as a lubricate!
As a chemist, adding any cooking oil or what we call triglycerides to your fuel will clog your engine's nozzle valves with time. The unburnt glycerine will coke up surfaces and nozzles of the ICE. As per my research at computerized Ricardo engine at Vic Uni in Australia, engine will die in about 3 to 5 mo depending on the amount of triglycerides used.
There is where the biodiesel process from végétale oil comes in. It separate the glycerine from the rest of the mix, and only needs potassium hydroxyde and methanol.
@@Lov3istheansw3r @A R I know but methanol is expensive as gold, - and im only doing it for saving money. and the glycerine is also waste. better just burn the pure veg oil. i have run 3000liter through the engine and no problems yet....
You should do with running an air intake pipe around the same length of the exhaust to keep the heater running properly. As it is it will be running weak as the pipe gives a air restriction hop this helps
Hello Dave . I would like to put an 8kw diesel heater in my shed do you think it's possible to use copper soldered joints to extend exhaust or will it melt the solder Extending it from the original exhaust what comes with the kit added bonus of a extra heating element . Kind regards Mark
Brilliant videos Have you tryed model nitro fuel with 40% caster oil..iv got loads left over from my model helicopter days..shame to bin it..wonder if it would work in these heaters ?
Using 60% nitromethane in an incinerator feels like a dangerous idea...I guess if you diluted it to 25% it shouldn't detonate(yep it can act as a high explosive { 6,400 m/s detonation velocity})
@@mnp3713 yeah I have silicon fuel pipe which I have touching the exhaust (which is insulated with fibreglass to keep the fuel line temperature at an acceptable level
Is there any advantage running on this mix? I have been using kerosene, as it's cheap enough and burns without any messing. Not sure how much I paid last time but I'm sure it's less than half the price of petrol.
I'm considering buying one of these heaters. Diesel in Italy costs €1.45 a liter. You can buy vegetable oil for €1 and €0.80 when it's on sale. That would be a substantial savings to run it on vegetable oil. I'd like for him to fire up the heater on diesel and hot switch it to 100% vegetable oil to see what happens.
In the U.S., kerosene is more than twice as expensive as gasoline. You can also get gasoline for agricultural use that doesn't include road tax in the price. So for America, off-road gasoline and filtered cooking oil is the cheapest way to go. Probably healthier than any other fuel, too.
Does it still work? I've heard using alternative fuels for these things doesn't last long because the ceramic thing it mists the fuel against gets all fouled up
K-I-S-S Keep it simple Scott. Great video as usual. My heater is on it's way from Czechoslovakia lol. I got a great price with discounts. Looking forward to getting started.
If you mix 10%petrol in veg oil and put it in the freezer it won’t freeze. 5%will. For normal use I’d say 5% is all good.(unless you live in -23degrees c. That is for a car. I wouldn’t use it in a night heater. It will mess it up. Kerosene is best
You can actually " mechanically" separate the crap by mixing it with 100ml of gelatin water/ l of waste oil. When the gelatin sets it pulls out all the crap from the oil leaving pure(with a bit of disolved water) waste oil
Negative, pure veg oil puts it out if you start on diesel and won't light if you try to start with it. A commenter got it running on veg oil but the oil has to be at least 100ºC as it enters the burn chamber.
@@DavidMcLuckie cheers thank you for your quick response and the information,, I had mine running for a few days and think they are brilliant,, can you tell me if it's ok to use 32 sec heating oil as I live in france plus you hear about the pump wearing out because lack of lubrication and wearing out the pump, many thanks for your help,,,
Thank you for going to the effort to carry out these experiments as I have wondered if the heater will run on a fuel blend myself. Have you tested vegetable oil and diesel in an unmodified diesel heater?
@@DavidMcLuckie how long run time, roughly, does it last before the heater won't work and needs cleaning? And I wonder if running on 100% veg, preheated to 100c+, would also cause sludge buildup. I can't afford to heat my house on electricity or gas, going to use 100% WVO (or high percentage) and hope I can use a diesel heater rather than building one with a steel drum and a skin around it for air to pass over.
Thanks to Nicola there is no such thing as cheap whiskey in Scotland. All alcohol has a minimum price, so all the 'cheap' whiskey is the same price regardless of brand.
The petrol about 2€/L and the oil is similar. The kerosene now 1,3€ It much cheaper for heating, becouse 1Lcca.=10Kw energy, the eletric, ,45€/Kw. So 10Kw heat from kerosene is 1,2 € from eletric is 4,5€ !!
Could someone explain about effect if i mix biodiesel (B20) with olive oil? using 30ml olive oil for 50 litres biodiesel. Could it can increase performance?
Why an one would want to put petrol in their heater is beyoind me,, My heater is on a boat and the best way to lower the value of my boat is to add petroll,, sod that for a game of cowboys,,,,
The idiots are being "Led" that way, best do some more research and not msm. Fossil fuels running out is a big myth to keep the prices high and us all in fear. Now we have the "WEF" 20 minute cities (prisons) and eating bugs, this is what happens when you beLIEve the criminals in charge
I've been told by other "experts", at other sites that I couldn't burn vegetable oil.
I appreciate your experiments.
I don't have much vegetable oil to burn, but I appreciate not having to throw away rancid oil that will work perfectly well, as fuel.
It also seems that old gasoline (petrol) that is no longer suitable for use in cars and lawn equipment, can be mixed 50/50 with diesel, and burn quite efficiently.
I have three antique cars that I don't drive enough.
This second option gives me a third fuel stream.
Old petrol and diesel mix certainly.
Veg oil just doesn't like to burn in these heaters. It always leaves residue. Maybe 10% veg and the rest diesel would at least use up the veg oil and at that ratio keep the heater running longer before cleans.
I've been running my Chinese diesel heater on 60% diesel / veg oil mixed with white spirits and redex diesel cleaner.
Thanks for doing this test. I have been interested in one of these as a domestic heater. Here in Oz, petrol is about $1.30L.
Electricity is about .30C Kwh. A litre of veg or Petrol has around 10Kwh of energy. If one could burn 50% petrol and waste Veg, this would cost .6.5C per kwh of heat. MUCH cheaper than using electricity.
One thing I would always recommend with using waste veg, DRY it first. Veg and diesel have almost identical energy but Veg is Hygroscopic. That dissolved water takes up some of the space the fuel would otherwise and when in the fuel, changes the burn pattern.
OTOH, it -may - have a cleaning effect on the combustion chamber. I use water injection on diesels running veg and I can turn them up to get big power and the water keeps them perfectly clean and I don't stick the rings as would certainly happen otherwise.
Perhaps injecting a small drip of water from a timed pump in the air intake would also keep these heaters clean when running waste Veg or engine oil?
Engines that have a regular dose of water are so clean inside you would swear they had been polished with a rag when you pull the heads. You do NOT need the water micromisted as a lot of the commercial WI companies will brainwash you to buy their expensive pumps, a regular drip or course spray will do fine. Droplets entering the combustion chamber work BETTER for cleaning purposes than having the water phase changed before it gets in there.
I think the heat loss would be negligible if at all in one of these heaters if admitted in the AIR intake due to the design of the heater and the way the HE works. Putting water in the air intake is a LOT different to having it in the fuel.
Could be something interesting to try in a vid.
Hey. I've watched most of your videos. They helped inspire my first waste oil burner build.
I used to clean the engine on my old Isuzu Trooper by spraying water into the intake out of a squeezy bottle when I ran it on veg oil. Maybe I should try the same with little heater and see what happens.
Great to hear from you.
Petrol £1.29 a litre vegetable oil £1.10 a litre...
Red diesel..79p a liter.. so why the pissing around
@@richardoakley8800 Waste Oil: 0.00 per 100L
@@glumpy10 waste oil contains a lot of particulate carbon..soot and other nasties. These will screw up the burner
Petrol here in Italy is €1.56 (Au$2.53) a liter. Fresh new vegetable oil can be bought for as little as €0.80 on sale. Usually it's €1.
Diesel is €1.45 (Au$2.35) a liter. Running 100% vegetable oil would save 30% or more over diesel. Not sure about kerosene.
I'd like to see a test starting the heater on diesel and hot switching over to 100% vegetable oil.
Love your experimentation and playing around vids.
I've been wanting to get one of these for quite some time and I finally picked one up. Should be much easier to heat my shop with it than my homemade diesel burner. (It was a waste oil burner but that was toooooo dirty and maintenance intensive to clean up.)
And the vegetable oil petrol mix makes a half-decent salad dressing....
For lawn mowers, they love it.
Clogs the screen after a few hours your heater won’t run after glow plug goes out
I don't no about a short supply of vegetables oil but there seems to be a very short supply of brains here. I don't need to tell anyone with an ounce of brains not to go any where near this .petrol is highly inflamable it is the vapour off petrol that can ignite from ten yards away or more give this one a miss leave it alone stay safe. willemog.
Em don't you mean flammable ?? Detonate from 10 yards away ,how ?
What movie were you watching ?
Is it the one where someone tossed a lit cigarette into a bucket of gasoline ? Contrary to popular belief that doesn't do anything besides snuff out the cigarette. However an electric spark in an enclosed area filled with vapors would definitely do it.
Funny enough I used to run my old 1967 2 1/4 diesel Land Rover short wheel base for over 5 years on between a 40/60 and 50/50 mixture of veggie oil and petrol from scrap cars and it ran perfectly for the entire 5 years...
The next logical ratio to try would be 60:40 For used crankcase oil, I fine filter it first. For these tasks, I use a smaller all glass syringe. I usually pump brake fluid with it. When I do brake pads, before I push the piston back, I raise the rubber dust boot with a small screw driver, I then pump in 3-5 CC of old brake fluid, left over from when I bleed the brakes. Then I use a "C" clamp to retract the piston and a rag to catch the excess brake fluid. The fluid lub the caliper cylinder wall, and since I started that decades ago, and we use salt for de icings on roads, (YYZ) I never have anymore seized calipers. My mechanic friends hate it, said it takes jobs away from him. You can get fluid from the master cylinder, but it must be the same brake fluid, using engine oil or WD , kerosene, you be looking at a major brake overhaul before the week is over.
Interesting. I make Biodiesel so I'm going to try my heater on that, but mix it with petrol/diesel.
ive been running my cars on bio since 2005, , so decided to try it in my 2kw heater and brand new 5kw one, 100% bio in all cases , both have done over 5 hours ok so far, although both smoked more when warming up, , so suspect if ran on bio for long periods of months may carbon up
Hey David, how about starting on diesel and after burn chamber is heated switching to veg oli mix? I was thinking about making two separate fuel lines (so two pumps and tanks) and Y connection as close to burn chaimber as possible . So instead of 2 way valve use Y connector and just switch power from diesel line pump to veg mix pump and use simple temperature switch?
IM going to name you Mr. Gadget !! I get a kick out off many times you keep doing more things with that heater ! I could tell from the first test one that you did, that you thought it was pretty cool !! Good luck "DOCTOR"
Vegetable oil only works well as a fuel for old diesel engines if the oil is pre-heated at least above 60ºC...if you pre-heat you can have even a greater percentage of vegetable oil... ;)
Iv run many old diesels on veg oil but never pre heated it even though people said to do so. My current campervan has also got a full tank and it rarely moves. I'd of thought by now it would of solidified but surely enough last week she fired straight up and I drove her around 5 miles
@@c4r5on88 I travelled a long time ago with some friends in an old Mercedes 407 D from the south of France to Portugal only running on recycled kitchen oil filtered and decanted in a warmed tank by recirculating the water heater circuit on a coil in the vegetable oil tank...It worked smoothly leaving an intense smell of French fries every time we stop along the way...
@@TheBigChill1 I bet that was brilliant :) we was hoping to travel Europe in ours and end up in Bulgaria however unfortunately covid shut the world down 😂 so my poor campervan has not been finished as I was rebuilding her. I'm in the uk it's a 79 dodge sportsman RV and originally had a 7.2 litre v8 with a auto box. She's now got a 1989 iveco sofim 8140 2.5 turbo diesel with a manual gearbox so she can run on veg oil and also fuel made from waste plastic. Hopefully 1 day I can make similar memories to yourself :) also I love those old mercs
@@c4r5on88 Yup...almost all the old engines can work with vegetable oil and other recycled fuels...as the diesel pump is robust enough to take the extra "load"...
Old Merc's, Ivecos and Ford's all can be run on "Eco Diesel"...
Almost all the "hippie" community use it nowadays here in Europe...but, in some of the EU countries is not quite legal to use vegetable oils as fuel...States are much more interested on protecting their taxes profits on the diesel...so they make it "illegal" to use alternative fuels like in my own country...Portugal
@@c4r5on88 CONvid
Doesn't bio deisel take an actual process to make it???? But you can use 90% used motor oil and 10% gasoline mix is called black diesel and it will work in that.
How about finely filtered used engine oil and petrol mix?
is there a modification that can be done to run better on a higher WVO ratio. I know this isn't a engine, but even WVO engine conversions need some mods to work on a high to full WVO, things like pre-heating the oil, hotter plugs, better injectors etx.
The best thing to do with the WVO is to turn it into bio diesel, this way you dont need to fiddle about with mixtures and its as "pure" as dino diesel, but runs "cleaner". Bio diesel can be cheaper if you add a process to reclaim some of the chemicals and solutions used up in producing biodiesel.
Pre-heating is probably the easiest option on this heater. I might have a play again as I've got a spare burn chamber if it all goes a bit gooey.
@Antibody Entertainment - Using biodiesel is all fine and well but homemade bio-d requires quite a few additional steps and also additional chemicals, which not only increases cost but also needs to be mixed in proper ratios, and if the ratios are off, you'll end up with a wasted botched batch of bio-d that won't burn. Also, when making DIY bio-d, there's a fair amount of glycerin produced/leftover that doesn't get converted to bio-d, which further lowers your bio-d yield. "Fiddling around with mixtures" (or pre-heating the veg- oil) is actually better as it allows you to "pour and play" much faster than making bio-d. Once you have your veg-oil and petrol dialed in and burning well, you can easily mix up a big batch that will last awhile. DIY bio-d really only makes sense if you plan on producing it large quantities and/or can get away with selling some on the side to help recoupe time and money spent on materials.
that's really interesting. I was thinking the 70/30 would have been good but its nice to know now. I ran motor oil diesel mix that had been cleaned in a centrifuge and yes its still too dirty. but now i wonder about trying used oil and gasoline if it might coke up a bit less and blow the fine ash out? its just fun to play
It might also depend on the veg oil. That was new rapeseed oil. A used oil, or oil from a different plant might have different results with the petrol mix.
Try 5%petrol in veg oil. It just acts as a solvent and makes it nice and thin, it also won’t thicken up when cold.
Thank you 🙏🏼
I’ve wanted this for ages
Thank you thank you thank you
Hi matey I run mine on paraffin. Have you tried heating oil as its 68p a litre. Only just found your channel. Cheers from old George
Heating oil works, it's about halfway between paraffin and diesel in terms of clean burn.
@@DavidMcLuckie Many thanks for reply. I've found your other videos on the subject of fuel and its great. Just for info we have been running our Diesel heaters for over a year now and not had any problems with sooting etc. We have found the black rubber fuel pipe doesn't last long and goes brittle not sure if paraffin or just poor quantity pipe. Cheers from George and Jane 👍
i have run mine on a 70 veg oil and 30 diesel and it ran it did not like it was very sooty never tried a gasoline veg oil
Is there anything non-petrol based to thin veg oil? I would like to run a small 2KW unit to preheat my car and defrost it but would rather not have a tank full of diesel in the trunk and the fumes that go along with that .
Hi David I have a supply of heating oil which I guess is similar to kerosene. As this supposedly burns cleaner than diesel, do you think it would be more efficient to use and less smelly ?
Yes. It should burn cleaner and hotter.
I dont know about where you are at but in the us on road off road diesel and fuel oil are all the same
@@jimmddaniel Could you please explain more? I'm very interested to know what you mean
@@kabruzoeldanto8671 on road low sulfur diesels only difference to off road diesel and fuel oil is off road and fuel oil has been colored red and dose not have the on road highway tax applied to it
Heating oil simply doesn't have additives for lubrication not sure if they removed the sulfur they do on road fuel in the United States it acts as a lubricate!
I would like to know if the heater can run on caster oil diesel to make that loverly retro castrol R race fuel smell
You'd not feel the benefit of the heater. You'd be sat outside savoring the aromas of the exhaust
Love this. Its like watching a mad scientist. Do you use a flux capacitor by any chance???
As a chemist, adding any cooking oil or what we call triglycerides to your fuel will clog your engine's nozzle valves with time. The unburnt glycerine will coke up surfaces and nozzles of the ICE. As per my research at computerized Ricardo engine at Vic Uni in Australia, engine will die in about 3 to 5 mo depending on the amount of triglycerides used.
Lol okay buddy, guys have been doing this forever
@@12345Unicornio i've heard timing for the pump has to be advanced a bit for oils, right?
Not in prechamber diesels only direct injection - first diesel engine by rudolf diesel was made to run on peanutoil
There is where the biodiesel process from végétale oil comes in. It separate the glycerine from the rest of the mix, and only needs potassium hydroxyde and methanol.
@@Lov3istheansw3r @A R I know but methanol is expensive as gold, - and im only doing it for saving money. and the glycerine is also waste. better just burn the pure veg oil. i have run 3000liter through the engine and no problems yet....
You should do with running an air intake pipe around the same length of the exhaust to keep the heater running properly. As it is it will be running weak as the pipe gives a air restriction hop this helps
Rubbish
Also use mineral oil thinner.
with these you can change the fuel to air ratios which will require doing with different fuel mix's for it to burn cleanly
Veg oil will always leave a sludge behind.
Great idea
Makes sense, thanks!
Thank you so very much!
Hello Dave .
I would like to put an 8kw diesel heater in my shed do you think it's possible to use copper soldered joints to extend exhaust or will it melt the solder
Extending it from the original exhaust what comes with the kit added bonus of a extra heating element .
Kind regards Mark
Could you not use exhaust assembly paste and jubilee clips with your copper pipe? At least for the join nearest the exhaust perhaps?
Did you tried with 80% veggie + 20% gasoline, instead of petrol?
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Have you ever tried 50 50 mix of diesel and vegetable oil?
I've run mine on 60% diesel the other 40% is veg oil / white spirit and a dash of redex diesel cleaner.
Brilliant videos
Have you tryed model nitro fuel with 40% caster oil..iv got loads left over from my model helicopter days..shame to bin it..wonder if it would work in these heaters ?
Ehhhh.... no... just...no.
Using 60% nitromethane in an incinerator feels like a dangerous idea...I guess if you diluted it to 25% it shouldn't detonate(yep it can act as a high explosive { 6,400 m/s detonation velocity})
Informative and entertaining !! 😂
Always raining. You will never run out of water.
Might get a better run and need less petrol if you heat the oil past 100c for a bit to get rid of water in the oil. Great vid!
Another viewer replied saying that he got it to run on straight veg oil if you can keep it at 100º as it enters the burner.
@@DavidMcLuckie just run the fuelline passed the warm air outlet
@@mnp3713 yeah I have silicon fuel pipe which I have touching the exhaust (which is insulated with fibreglass to keep the fuel line temperature at an acceptable level
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Have you considered or tried transesterification? I'm thinking about turning my waste veg oil to biodiesel and then putting it in a heater.
Biodiesel should be fine, as it's now pretty much diesel and you won't end up with the black sludge. I think UK diesel might already be 5% biodiesel.
Is there any advantage running on this mix? I have been using kerosene, as it's cheap enough and burns without any messing. Not sure how much I paid last time but I'm sure it's less than half the price of petrol.
Only if you have a free supply of veg oil or used veg oil. And if it's used veg oil are prepared to filter it.
I'm considering buying one of these heaters. Diesel in Italy costs €1.45 a liter. You can buy vegetable oil for €1 and €0.80 when it's on sale. That would be a substantial savings to run it on vegetable oil.
I'd like for him to fire up the heater on diesel and hot switch it to 100% vegetable oil to see what happens.
In the U.S., kerosene is more than twice as expensive as gasoline. You can also get gasoline for agricultural use that doesn't include road tax in the price. So for America, off-road gasoline and filtered cooking oil is the cheapest way to go. Probably healthier than any other fuel, too.
I routinely add veg oil to my diesel for heating.
What ratio have you had success with? Is it new or used oil?
How many litres an hour would you say.Thanks for show
Have you done a class 2 paraffin test yet?
I've done Paraffin. Not sure what class it was but it burned well.
Does it still work? I've heard using alternative fuels for these things doesn't last long because the ceramic thing it mists the fuel against gets all fouled up
They do foul up. I'd run kerosene through them every other tank to burn the residue out.
doesnt that type of heater run on kerosine too?
Diesel, kerosene, paraffin and petrol
Did you ever try heating oil ?
Ps love the channel 👍
They all work. Diesel, heating oil, kerosene, paraffin etc.
What if waist engine oil was filtered first or even setting up a magnetic plate or something to remove the metal particles?
If you've got a good centrifuge and could remove most of the waste it would run a lot cleaner. Or at least need cleaning less.
K-I-S-S Keep it simple Scott. Great video as usual. My heater is on it's way from Czechoslovakia lol. I got a great price with discounts. Looking forward to getting started.
will this run on waste oil?
So is that 50/50veg oil and gasoline?
Anyone tried misfuel? When the wrong fuel has been put in a car? Loads of garages have this when its drained off and you can get it for free.
If straight petrol will burn, a mix of petrol and diesel will certainly work. :)
@@DavidMcLuckie if you get time, any chance of testing 50/50 diesel petrol please
Love your videos. But is it always raining during your videos? LOL
It does rain a lot in Scotland.
I wonder how would 2/3 of diesel mixed with 1/3 of wvo work
Did it smoke on your mix
i would have like to have seen what the oil does to the burn chamber
It makes a black sticky mess. :)
@@DavidMcLuckie i kind of figured
If you mix 10%petrol in veg oil and put it in the freezer it won’t freeze. 5%will. For normal use I’d say 5% is all good.(unless you live in -23degrees c. That is for a car. I wouldn’t use it in a night heater. It will mess it up. Kerosene is best
when you say petrol, do you mean unleaded road fuel???? thxs
Yes.
Could one clean up the waste engine oil by means of magnets and possibly a particle filter of some kind ??
You can actually " mechanically" separate the crap by mixing it with 100ml of gelatin water/ l of waste oil. When the gelatin sets it pulls out all the crap from the oil leaving pure(with a bit of disolved water) waste oil
Did you mix it with petrol or diesel? 🤔
Petrol.
Not sure about this test as you have managed to run it on pure veg oil before?
Negative, pure veg oil puts it out if you start on diesel and won't light if you try to start with it. A commenter got it running on veg oil but the oil has to be at least 100ºC as it enters the burn chamber.
@@DavidMcLuckie cheers thank you for your quick response and the information,, I had mine running for a few days and think they are brilliant,, can you tell me if it's ok to use 32 sec heating oil as I live in france plus you hear about the pump wearing out because lack of lubrication and wearing out the pump, many thanks for your help,,,
Dose these heaters run on central heating oil
Yes.
Nice video I bet if you preheated the vegetable oil first you could reduce the gasoline mixture.. Cheers
hello i have a question is the burner even woring on a tank of propene gaz ???
Not something I want to try.
Thank you for going to the effort to carry out these experiments as I have wondered if the heater will run on a fuel blend myself.
Have you tested vegetable oil and diesel in an unmodified diesel heater?
so what about kero and used veg oil, does it/ will it work, new to this so just pondering
It does work. But I've seen a few videos now of the aftermath of running with veg and everything just gets gummed up inside.
How does 50/50 diesel wvo run? If not at all maybe 10%petrol 40%diesel 50% diesel?
I mean 10% petrol. 40diesel 50wvo
What about now with the price of diesel? 😮😊
Heating oil is always an option.
Why did you mix the veg oil with petrol and not diesel will they not mix well?
Initially it was a viewers question. But now I wouldn't recommend veg oil in any ratio. It just turns to black sludge inside the heater eventually.
@@DavidMcLuckie how long run time, roughly, does it last before the heater won't work and needs cleaning?
And I wonder if running on 100% veg, preheated to 100c+, would also cause sludge buildup.
I can't afford to heat my house on electricity or gas, going to use 100% WVO (or high percentage) and hope I can use a diesel heater rather than building one with a steel drum and a skin around it for air to pass over.
will it run on cheap whiskey??🤔
Thanks to Nicola there is no such thing as cheap whiskey in Scotland. All alcohol has a minimum price, so all the 'cheap' whiskey is the same price regardless of brand.
Try a 25 to one of oil, the exhaust will go ting ting ting...
could you run homemade biodiesel?
There are a few viewers running on bio.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks for your quick response i will keep on searching for a good viedeo
What about just oil
The petrol about 2€/L and the oil is similar. The kerosene now 1,3€ It much cheaper for heating, becouse 1Lcca.=10Kw energy, the eletric, ,45€/Kw. So 10Kw heat from kerosene is 1,2 € from eletric is 4,5€ !!
i have alot of used motor oil plz try that.
You can' mechanically' purify waste oil with gelatin with ZERO EFFORT check the Robert Murray Smith video
My "friend " has been running his diesel motor on red for years 🤣
Red is actual diesel you know. Just died so it can be identified for off road use
Does anyone else imagine the face of Scotty from Star Trek when listening to David?
Thats why you are called "Bimbo"
Is petrol diesel or gas
Gas
@@DavidMcLuckie Blimey, lots of Americans on here lol
can you please try a "non fossil mix" consisting of ethanol and veggie oil?
thanks!
add acetone
Use Gin,,,,,Gin makes everthing better.
Could someone explain about effect if i mix biodiesel (B20) with olive oil? using 30ml olive oil for 50 litres biodiesel. Could it can increase performance?
Unless the fuel is free don't bother waste oil only
Just filter waste engine oil to get rid of the rubbish
whats petrol? lol
heloooooow.......haha
Why an one would want to put petrol in their heater is beyoind me,, My heater is on a boat and the best way to lower the value of my boat is to add petroll,, sod that for a game of cowboys,,,,
I thought the world was going electric and away from fossil fuels but it looks like you are going the other way!!
The idiots are being "Led" that way, best do some more research and not msm. Fossil fuels running out is a big myth to keep the prices high and us all in fear. Now we have the "WEF" 20 minute cities (prisons) and eating bugs, this is what happens when you beLIEve the criminals in charge