@@AZ-gm2md cause morality is a social contruct. Some choose to follow it some don't. Still we should always think "will my actions hurt my loved ones or contradict my moral code?" If no, then go for it. If yes , then proceed to ask "do i care?"
Don't pretend like it's "toxic masculinity" to be offended by your gf doing this in front of people. If a man did that with a celebrity it would also be f**d up and the girlfriend would have all the right to get offended and break up with that man. I can't believe this is even a topic of discussion 🤦♂️
Really. The fact that anti-prophet feels this way REALLLY threw me off. I NEVER would have thought he would feel like that considering all of the stuff I've seen from him
Man is created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord, and by this means to save his soul. And the other things on the face of the earth are created for man and that they may help him in prosecuting the end for which he is created. From this it follows that man is to use them as much as they help him on to his end, and ought to rid himself of them so far as they hinder him as to it. For this it is necessary to make ourselves indifferent to all created things in all that is allowed to the choice of our free will and is not prohibited to it; so that, on our part, we want not health rather than sickness, riches rather than poverty,honor rather than dishonor, long rather than short life, and so in all the rest; desiring and choosing only what is most conducive for us to the end for which we are created ...................
To me, if my wife can act like that with someone, it means her priorities are more for fun rather than the comfort of her loved one. Obviously, fun should be had by the two. But marriage is a sacred bond between two human souls, and if that respect is not prioritized constantly in life, then the two should have married in the first place. Marriage requires both parties to actively choose their partner and their self care over everyone and everything else.
True, true.. but not all of those cases are the same.. this is a stupid stage act after all, probably doesn’t mean all too much, but it depends person to person how you feel on the matter, and how you trust your partner. Also marriage doesn’t mean you stop being yourself, unless you are being unfaithful.
You're right. Some men, usually men who display the same comfort and leeway with other women AKA grinding on girls, etc, would be more willing to see their girl do the same if they've had those same experience with women. Unless they have an ego, possessive complex. I've actually broken up with a girl because of something similar. She would happily have, and accept all the "friendliness" of guys orbiting her, waiting to get into her pants, but would completely flip out if I was texting or friendly enough with a co-worker. I think a lot of women wouldn't be so accepting if those behaviors were reversed.
For some couples this would bring them closer. It really depends on the couple. From his reaction; I do not believe they had a polyamorous or otherwise open relationship.
My wife would never do something like this but if she did, it wouldn't be a laugh it off sort of thing. It would be a find your own way home sort of thing.
Yes. I too would agree. She did not have the interests of the partner in mind or his thought’s when she went up on stage to do the dirty so it is a show of her priorities.I would understand a small error of mis judgement but not something where you know you will be recorded for all to see.
Man is created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord, and by this means to save his soul. And the other things on the face of the earth are created for man and that they may help him in prosecuting the end for which he is created. From this it follows that man is to use them as much as they help him on to his end, and ought to rid himself of them so far as they hinder him as to it. For this it is necessary to make ourselves indifferent to all created things in all that is allowed to the choice of our free will and is not prohibited to it; so that, on our part, we want not health rather than sickness, riches rather than poverty,honor rather than dishonor, long rather than short life, and so in all the rest; desiring and choosing only what is most conducive for us to the end for which we are created .......
I would not be mad, I would be glad that I identified and dodged a bullet. Also I always try to remain calm under any situation. Anger will lead to you making wrong decisions.
Its a hypothetical, as if you were married. Technically you didn't doge shit because if you realized she wasn't the one, the next step would be divorce, and now you know where we are heading. half of your income.
I find it crazy that someone with as deep and critical thought as you can also feel like it's no problem for the people you love to do this, regardless of the gender, if the man has a girlfriend and he was doing that, it's horrible. If a girl has a boyfriend and she does that, it's horrible. If you give yourself to a person and want to trust that person fully, then you should reciprocate that by being trustworthy. Sexual conduct regardless of with clothes on or off is still of the most disrespectful acts you can do to one of the people you supposedly "love".
Yes, people should care if their spouse was making a sexual scene in front of a huge crowd, therefore downgrading the person they're married to and the marriage itself.
Yes. She did not have her husbands thoughts or feelings in mind instead she had her own. It is a show of character of who she is when drastic decisions are left to her.I could not trust a person with marriage if they did not have my best interests or concerns in mind. That too applies to the husband if he is willing to act drastic instead of patient calm and collective.
My take is if it's not ok to do something with a stranger, its not ok to do it with a celebrity. If the person I love did this with anybody id be really upset. Getting a hug or something like that is a different story. I think the only thing that would ease the tension and would make it "a joke" would to go up on stage and perform the same action on the celebrity afterwards. Obviously that's a super unrealistic scenario that would likely get you kicked from a concert, but that might be the point I'm trying to make. It's just flat out not appropriate, and is an obvious power move. Something that youd then have to live with knowing that you and everyone you're close to knows about or has seen that you have been dry cucked for lack of a better term.
I'd feel betrayed and angry. Sexual acts are something intimate to me, there's a reason that I don't simply go out and fuck around, was new to dating apps and didn't last long on tinder as I realized "this ain't it chief", even if it was as a joke, something like that has meaning to me, there was a point in my life where I tried out the other route briefly, left me with regret, loneliness, and misery, so I returned to this current route, though I almost went back to it and was thankfully rejected when I had the lapse in judement fully pushing me back to this track, admittedly I didn't pull it off completely on my own. If this were to happen to me, to see that something of this nature isn't a special way of connection to an s/o as I'd had hoped it would be, it would be painful. Now the rage out on stage ehhhh, I'd say there's a better time and place for a discussion or in their case most likely an argument, but that there was as far as I see it, betrayal to him. And this particular kind of betrayal is painful to witness for me.
It all depends on the boundaries you set, if you find yourself in a certain situation where you have to "think" about how you should "feel" about it, then that's a clear indicator of a lack of boundaries.
I agree with this. Boundaries and communication is very important. Even if you think that your partner would be comfortable with something its always important to talk to them about it beforehand.
I use your videos as logic puzzles to hash through my own viewpoints. So thanks for making them as they are now. I image as your channel grows the content will change which may drive me away but it truly feels like i am sitting across from you in conversation about the short clip shown.
That would have been the ideal response but we aren't living in an ideal world. People who would just take that type of disrespect to the face and calmly walk it off are negligible compared to the entire population. People just don't accept disrespect straight to the face specifically when it's about something that could include your family like if they were engaged or married.
As a woman, I say that I just showed who I really was. I showed myself as impulsive and that I put priority on getting attention. I would expect a man who I was with, at the very least, to consider whether or not that is the kind of woman he wishes to be with now that he's seen this snapshot of where that behavior leads. It maybe, be harmless as I didn't actually cheat, but not so harmless because it could also translate into things like how I spend my money. It used to be womanhood prided itself on restraint. But now, restraint is seen as weakness and evidence of the patriarchy. And I don't believe that is a good thing.
Would you feel the same if the man was tall, handsome and in private? Because ultimately it is the same act, the only difference would be the amount of perceived threat you understand him to be, but ultimately that is only your perception and not the act itself.
No way. I'd NEVER do that to my husband. I'm embarrassed for her and for him. That's just so disrespectful. And I always think do onto others as you would have them do onto you. Especially when it comes to your significant other. She would be SO jealous if there were some younger girl grinding on her husband, she would lose it, probably get all emotional, cry, maybe even try to fight the girl. When it comes to flirting or cheating, I believe there is 100% equality there. Husband or wife, it's not okay. I give my husband the most respect not only because it's how I'd want to be treated, but also because he deserves that. As do I. We are both extremely loyal, we had both been cheated on before getting together, and we both made each other feel as secure as possible because we could relate to how the other was feeling. Bottom line, it's the least you can do in a relationship and if not, you shouldn't be in a relationship.
I mean, once you're in a committed relationship with someone, these sorts of things are non-negotiable. It's all a matter of respect for your significant other.
That video just makes me feel glad to be engaged to the woman I'm engaged to. Very respectful and conservative. She wouldn't even do that with me in a public place let alone with someone else. Love ya babe.
Yes its very disrespectful and even shameful. I am very progresive and im all in for woman exploring their sexuality in whatever shape or form they want, but this is just faul lol. If you are in a monogamous relationship with your partner its a given that having sex with clothes on is not right and could be counted as cheating.
Coming from a woman - this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour. It's pretty degenarate to do this, when you are single, this is next level. I know I would break up if my partner would do something like this and I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who would laugh it off, if I portrayed such behaviour.
Some people might confuse the man being upset here with toxic masculinity. I think it is more about BOUNDARIES than toxicity. For a lot of men seeing their significant other behave like this would cross a line for them. I don't think there is anything wrong with setting boundaries about physical contact with others. If that doesn't work for both parties, then it's best for them to move on. What I really find problematic is how people often try make their boundaries the gold standard for everyone. The toxic component is how people attempt to shame individuals into fitting with their morals. Usually pertaining to sexuality. That is why I am not a fan of 'Manosphere' content, at least the content that YT seems to think I want to see. The issues that the 'Manosphere' bring up are still important, so dismissing it completely as toxic is unhelpful for society.
For me, it would be a relationship ending event. If wifey is ready to grind herself against a celebrity on stage in front of an audience, what she's ready to do in private? This is not toxic masculinity; he didn't "defended" wifey from the singer. That's a way better reaction than Will Smith.
I think it becomes very much dependant on the relationship. Is it important to you or your spouse that you are publicly "possessive" of each other, is it part of how you each feel validated and cared for. Or is that not important to you and the comedy of the situation is easily worthwhile. I think that either response, when in a healthily communicative relationship, is perfectly fine
Tbh you shouldn’t be mad at this happening Losing someone like that isn’t a loss, they just showed you who they are and it’s not what you hoped it would be Only thing you should be considering is if you should still have contact with each other (I wouldn’t in this situation but you do you)
What people fail to see here is that she's not getting an autograph or a hug from her fav celebrity or something, literally jumping on another man and grinding against him especially when your in a relationship is not something anyone should do , man or woman, the problem with people these days is that they try to cover everything that they do wrong under the guise of fun and jokes, would they still say the same thing if the man would have been doing it.
The husband had the full right to be angry. I wouldn't personally care anymore for her that much to go up the stage and tell her to stop. She acted in an unconscious and miserable way, for her, her husband/boyfriend meant so little to even think weather he approves this or not. I would have left her there, went home and she would need to find somewhere else to sleep. Utterly disgusting
Damn. Forget girlfriend, forget wife, if a person did that i would straight up not interact with them. Ever. Period. No anger, all disgust. That is some subhuman behaviour and should be treated as such.
As a man I would feel disrespected. How would she feel if I went up on stage and let a woman grind all over me? It has as much to do with loyalty as it does masculinity. A man a real masculin man is loyal to his woman and she should show him the same respect.
To me self respect is beautiful and important that I would just leave the place and later talk to her just to let her know that I will no longer be a part of her life. And I say this because she will have knowledge from me of what things like this will cause, way before things like this happen
There isn't a "duty" to be angry here, but the scenario itself is distressing especially depending on how serious the relationship is already. It is as big of a deal as the person you're dating means to you, and how much trust she violated by doing this action. Guess it depends on the context but IMO this is an immediate break-off, because celeb or not what happened there was BS.
I guess the answer is, if you don't want to be with a person who does stuff like that, just don't. If you dont care, date them and rid the other half of the problem of dealing with them
My significant other should not be doing sexual grinding on any man, just like how shouldn't be grinded on by any woman in the guise of "fun." That's just disrespectful and going against the sacred companionship between the couple. What if I start paying for other women in the guise of "homies from way back?" Or I start treating them like a woman I'd like to provide for? Where does it stop? Boundaries must be respected and at least KNOWN for each other. And you're only kidding yourself when you say that a guy you've never met can grind on your woman and you'd think it's all funny, until you hear her whisper to her friends "Yeah girl, and he was chubby but kinda cute!"
if she's doing this in front of you just imagine what would she do when you are not around, this woman can't be trusted because she doesn't have any sense of loyalty and respect if this happens to me I simply walk away and break up with her.
Okay so, I made up my mind when he said “husband”. My answer is cold head angry. Meaning Yes, angry because of what the wife did, because you as a woman don’t get to just jump on stage and grind a singer while getting pissed off whenever the husband looks at another woman on the streets. And cold head because the man needs to solve the problem in such a way that he doesn’t end up suffering even more than he already is.
Considering what boundaries I've set with my partner, I think context is super important given this scenario. Me and my gf have an open relationship and have discussed being okay with the other being intimate with others. As such, the context is important. With this scenario in particular I doubt I would be okay with it given the public view and the lack of me knowing (I'm assuming the woman in the video didn't tell her husband about it and he was surprised). However if its just the idea of my gf being with another man, I wouldn't be against it if I knew the person was decent and me and her talked about it beforehand. I hear it so often it sounds cheesy but communication cannot be understated as the most important part of a relationship.
@@Altair-El-Haddad maybe in some cases. Maybe there are some who just aren't confident or confrontational enough to speak up when their partner does something they don't like. Those people do exist, and that's mostly their problem to deal with. But that can be a journey. To overcome that inability to stand up for one's self. Sometimes people in that situation need a push in the right direction so that they can learn to speak up, and do something when someone acts a way that makes them feel uncomfortable in a relationship. So your unnecessary jab at my masculinity aside, there is a legitimate point to be discussed there.
@@Altair-El-Haddad lol nah, don't really feel like it tbh. I'm pretty happy with my life so I'm good. Hope you can find something more productive to occupy your time. Tbh I should probably do the same but eh, its whatever.
Yeah. Each spouse is a representative of their counterpart. Respect is not only needed inside confines of the house, but outside too. My wife would not even dream of doing something like this. She doesn’t have to question if I would be okay with something like this; she knows how I think and the image this portrays.
Every couple should have discussions about things like this, a lot of people would not appreciate that, so it's best to avoid this catastrophe with a simple conversation.
I can honestly understand if people get offended if their partner does this, it’s embarrassing, it’s cringe, and it could mean she is willing to be unfaithful in the right circumstances, not 100% but it’s a possibility, each situation depends person to person, relationship to relationship.
I only found your stuff today but you know what I love about this video? The fact that you said, you didn't know what the answer is. That's real. Enjoying your takes man.
Marriage is all about responsibility & dedication to the person as well as the institution. That kind of behaviour shows her sense of responsibility & her dedication to her husband as well as the institution.
This is completely unacceptable behavior for me. If that was my wife, me and my whole family will be coming down hard on her. If that was my girlfriend, I would instantly ghost her.
What is laughable is the fact that in today’s world there are people who say “just laugh it off” it’s disrespect to the husband on the highest degree. If i was him i would just leave without a single word and never look back, these people who disrespect their significant other in such a way don’t deserve even an explanation.
I had a girl I started talking to back in the day we went to a school function (like deadass a school function as a fundraiser for the senior class) and she grinded on other dudes in one case in front of me. Her friends got pissed at me cause the day after I stopped talking to her. So my bias is that the wife fucked up.
First I’d just like to take a second to appreciate this channel, and it’s content as well as the variety of opinions this channel showcases. To the matter at hand I’m looking at this from two different points of view. The first being, is the Gentleman in question acting out of embarrassment because perhaps he has friends or family members in the audience. Naturally this isn’t the way he would want his wife to portray herself. Second is his reaction out of confusion at the thought that this is a side of his wife he isn’t accustom to therefore planting a seed in his mind which will make him consider “if this is how she would act in a public setting with a Huge audience, how would she act in a more private setting with a more attractive other”. Again the @anti.prophet has brought forth an idea for me to think deeply! Which I appreciate greatly.
As a man I'd rather not have the person whom I swore an oath of loyalty to and vice versa grinding on someone else. In the case of marriage. As far as dating goes it makes me question their loyalty if she was willing to do that with me there what would she do when I was gone?
It's not about what's right or wrong, it's about respect, as a man I will hold respect for myself and in this case never allow my significant other to disrespect me like that, even if it means nothing to me. And as a woman, she should have more respect for herself then that, I would never be with a woman that has so little respect for herself. In simple terms, it's not about what was done, but it did display that her values don't match mine and I would never be with her.
Couples boundaries should be clear. If this is something that was discussed and this would happen i would be pissed. Ex: I went to a music festival while my gf couldn't come and a a girl asked if she could get on my shoulder to take a picture of Sum 41 as we had a tall gate in front of us, I said fine, she got on my shoulder took the picture and went on with her life. When i told my gf she was pissed from the idea of having a another girls v... touching my neck, which I can understand. Did i went the "well i am a free man blah blah blah...", no, my behavior hurt someone I love deeply so i put myself in her shoes for a second and now that this boundary is clear, I would never do it again out of respect for her. Do i really need to have the freedom to have girls sitting on my shoulder while in a long term relationship? no, this is not something i need in my life to feel free and be happy. Now, do I think that throwing a fit on stage in front of the whole audience and shaming your gf is the right way to deal with this? Obviously not, but should a discussion about it should be had between the two in a private environment if this pissed off the guy, most definitely yes. But if this was brought up before and this is not the first time such a thing happen and a discussion ensued about this in the past, i would probably go on the: well i guess we don't fit together if you need to pursue behaviors that i do not accept so lets end this. You ain't a bad person, I ain't a bad one either, our values don't match so let's go on with our lives separately. We lack a lot of info to really have an opinion on this and understand the nuances of their relationship, aka, let's mind our own business here.
i think the problem is what comes affter that, because it go in scales, what kind of boundaries does your relationship have, does the man does the same kind of stuff, should he?
When it's like this and I don't know what to do and think, I just reverse it. Now it goes like: _"Do my wife would appreciate Nicky Minaj dry riding me on a chair publicly and in front of her while I clearly enjoy it?"_ I feel like my question is rhetorical
It's a fucked up thing to do, if you don't feel this way, either you have never been in a relationship where you genuinely loved the other person or you just are incapable of jealousy, either is no good.
When i see a dude out in public raising his voice to a woman or being violet, i always think that it has to start from somewhere. Like behind closed doors, a "comfort for being abusive" had to be initiated. If he is indeed that confirms with being that way in public, then at home must be way worse. This is what comes to mind when i see this video. If she can do all that with the guy on stage with her husband watching, then there is no telling what she may be doing when he isn't there behind closed doors. Usually, women say it's an insecurity or Incel mindset but if they had actual attractive "Chad" type husband who Were grinding/ being grinded on, they'd flip the script real quick. They can't even handle their dudes liking a chix page on IG.
Entering a relationship is like entering a contract. You should know what your partners boundaries are on these things and respect that so unless she and her partner established that this was okay to both of them yeah this is messed up. Open relationships, poly relationships, all that jazz is fine but it needs to be consentual for all involved and the reaction of that man showed he did not consent to his partner grinding on another man
I think that this is really messed up since marriage is a commitment and both parties have to show respect by not doing anything they think is okay unless the other party think that it is too
I believe it all comes down to boundaries, and what your relationship is like. There are people who in their relationships would allow this kind of thing and laugh it off because they’ve established that it’s okay, but there are also people who would not be okay with this because they had already put those boundaries in place to say it’s not okay, which is why you have guys who would say “my wife would never be in this situation”. This is why relationships are hard to give broad advice to, because disrespect in my relationship may not be disrespect in yours, the manospere is okay for general guidelines on how to carry yourself, but there is a lot of critical thinking that has to go into applying it in the long term (from my observations)
I think it depends on the boundaries set between the relationship, and I think that the truth is that what affects people is wildly different. Per example my partner and I have no issue with each other going to strip clubs (hell we've been to some together and had a lot of fun) but wouldn't be okay doing something like that as it feels public and exposed. Somebody could look at our relationship and disagree about how we feel, but since the bounderies work for us and we respect each other within our bounderies, then we're fine. In this case, the guy was obviously not okay with it which is why it was disrespectful. But if her partner was amused by it, it wouldn't matter. While the manosphere can have some advice that are good for men, I think in recent years it went to far. You don't need to change your character to impress some random dudes online. You need to become a person that you can respect and find a partner that respect you for who you are. Everything outside of that doesn't matter
100% a wife/girlfriend shouldn't do that! I feel like it's disrespectful and goes outside the bounds of a committed relationship. And it's kinda humiliating I'd imagine .
I get jealous if my girlfriend even looks at another man, I wasn't always this way but that hypothetical situation would likely be the end of our relationship 1 because I repeatedly express how I dislike the thought of anything like that happening to my partner, and I genuinely feel like expressing sexuality with another man will ruin exclusivity. That being said I'm very curious how you wouldn't care since that could actually be very useful to me in the case my partner finds someone else attractive, I feel like it's unfair for me to be angry with her about something she can't control but the feeling of jealousy I get in these situations is very tangible and overwhelming and it almost seems like I'm actively seeking it out, if anybody has advice it would be so appreciated, thank you so much🙏
I would get mad, I find unbelievable that ppl would actually not care like bro, that’s your girl getting grinded on by some stranger. Like I know it’s nowhere near as bad as actual cheating but it shows that she’s willing to make you uncomfortable for the sake of her so called enjoyment/fun time
As a woman, I would never do that to my boyfriend/husband. And if I ever did, I hope he gets upset with me cause that's not okay. How can you say you love someone but then do sexual acts with another person!? Doing it in front of a crowd especially communicates that you don't think of your significant other as special to you and/or you don't care about their feelings. I understand that some couples may agree on having open relationships, but clearly that was not agreed on between these two.
It’s all about context, if they set boundaries before hand and this went past he should be mad, if it doesn’t he shouldn’t, but if no boundaries were set it’s something that deserves a conversation not anger
A woman (or man, for that matter) who acts like that publicly isn't marrying material. You shouldn't be bumping and grinding on somebody where a whole room, or auditorium, as the case may be, of people can see you. You should have more respect for yourself.
If a woman with a boyfriend or husband can do this, then the boyfriend/husband should be able to do the equivalent with random women. Either they're both okay, or neither of them are (though I think it's the latter).
Her actions one way or another would affect him. Being emotionally invested into something comes with well, emotions. Now given that 2 people mutually decide to be together one should take into account themselves but also the other. The fact that she acted and he reacted shows his emotional response yes, (which I don’t necessarily agree with but I have negative reactions of my own I don’t agree with) but it moreso shows her lack of understanding him. If she’s willing to act on something that crosses a boundary of mutual respect (that clearly they don’t see eye to eye on) she should account for how it would affect him. Otherwise what’s the actual point of being together what’s the goal? This could just be an opinion or useful insight hopefully the latter.
To me its not about as a man or as a woman When you’re on a relationship you have certain boundaries you both agree upon and there’s a certain level of respect and consideration to the other person Depends on the situation, but in my view, it wouldn’t really be okay to me if i saw my partner doing that to another person “as a joke”, in that specific scenario
I'd be mad not at him but at my girl. Bro is just putting on a show and grinding on some random chick for his, hers and our entertainment. My girl letting another guy grind on her though, and infront of me no less, would make me anything but happy. If she only let it happen because she didn't want to ruin the show or felt to embarrassed to do anything, then I wouldn't be mad of course. But if she acted all happy like this girl did then I would question if she's really the girl I want to spend the rest of my life with
That is an interesting question and I also have similar doubts about this kind of topic. My thoughts in this specific case is that I wouldn't be angry for the act itself but I wouldn't want a woman who behaves like that.
The true test of any action or decision in a relationship is to flip the situation, how would SHE feel and react to HIM allowing a beautiful woman to grind on him on stage?😮.......yeah
I think if your In relationship trusting one another is the most important thing. So if this situation where me I would have not angry or feel ashamed if I where the wife. Cuz I would have a enough trust with the person I was in a relationship, we know that where being faithful so we would not get up at each for a situation like this. Know if you partner was a know cheater and had been unfaithful prior to this happen it might feel different.
Respect in relationships, think as a team, which may or may not affect the relationship according to agreements between two. Values. And only these two know if they were mature enough to define those agreements so that according to their actions it affects their relationship or not,or if they flatly do not respect each other (according to this video and the reaction of both). In this particular video, in my opinion, only the woman is making a fool of herself.
If you are in a committed relationship with that woman her doing that in front of people with another man is openly disrespecting you. One should care when their partner openly disrespect you. I wouldn’t run up on stage but I couldn’t see myself staying with a person so okay with just publicly disrespecting me like that.
idk i believe that she threw his respect out since it is public snd immortalized because of social media so because of that it makes sense that hes angry because of the embarassment that it would entail in their daily life but even so it will probably disappear in a week or so but the respect and trust that the man has for her is probably gone
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As a woman, I would be incredibly embarrassed by myself if I did that even if I wasn't married. Doing that while married is absolutely unthinkable.
Fr, why does this guy even consider that you can 'laugh it off'
@@AZ-gm2mdecause for more and more people there isnt such a thing like honor, shame or loyalty anymore.
@@TDCKORAY Agreed, at first i thought this 'anti-prophet' guy had some sense, but he just seems like some weird modernist 'new era' mf.
@@AZ-gm2md cause morality is a social contruct. Some choose to follow it some don't. Still we should always think "will my actions hurt my loved ones or contradict my moral code?" If no, then go for it. If yes , then proceed to ask "do i care?"
@@itsankit1507 Objective morality. If you don't believe in it, your morality will degrade to the point where you will try to justify almost anything.
Don't pretend like it's "toxic masculinity" to be offended by your gf doing this in front of people. If a man did that with a celebrity it would also be f**d up and the girlfriend would have all the right to get offended and break up with that man. I can't believe this is even a topic of discussion 🤦♂️
You're right it shouldn't be a discussion here, both ways it's still effn fkd up
What is worse is it’s all recorded. So eventually the family of both would see it. It’s disgusting and disrespectful.
Dude if a man done this he would be catching a charge NOT having the light shined on him
Exactly💯
Really. The fact that anti-prophet feels this way REALLLY threw me off. I NEVER would have thought he would feel like that considering all of the stuff I've seen from him
It’s disrespectful to the husband. Giving a hug to a celebrity you like is one thing. Performing faux sex is another.
If anything at the very least, it’s cringe as hell and embarrassing.
It's disrespectful to herself as a woman, let alone her husband. Let's talk about her like she has agency rather than like she's his accessory.
Man is created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord, and by this means to save his soul.
And the other things on the face of the earth are created for man and that they may help him in prosecuting the end for which he is created.
From this it follows that man is to use them as much as they help him on to his end, and ought to rid himself of them so far as they hinder him as to it.
For this it is necessary to make ourselves indifferent to all created things in all that is allowed to the choice of our free will and is not prohibited to it; so that, on our part, we want not health rather than sickness, riches rather than poverty,honor rather than dishonor, long rather than short life, and so in all the rest; desiring and choosing only what is most conducive for us to the end for which we are created
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Truth be told, be mad but be wise. Play it calm, and when y'all get home, tell her she needs to stay at her mother's for a while
To me, if my wife can act like that with someone, it means her priorities are more for fun rather than the comfort of her loved one. Obviously, fun should be had by the two. But marriage is a sacred bond between two human souls, and if that respect is not prioritized constantly in life, then the two should have married in the first place. Marriage requires both parties to actively choose their partner and their self care over everyone and everything else.
True, true.. but not all of those cases are the same.. this is a stupid stage act after all, probably doesn’t mean all too much, but it depends person to person how you feel on the matter, and how you trust your partner.
Also marriage doesn’t mean you stop being yourself, unless you are being unfaithful.
god i love you brother, this is the best way ive ever seen anybody describe this commitment so perfectly. thank you for your words, theyre a gift
@@DoktrDub It reveals a lot about her, the kinds of things you can never see the same again.
You're right. Some men, usually men who display the same comfort and leeway with other women AKA grinding on girls, etc, would be more willing to see their girl do the same if they've had those same experience with women. Unless they have an ego, possessive complex.
I've actually broken up with a girl because of something similar. She would happily have, and accept all the "friendliness" of guys orbiting her, waiting to get into her pants, but would completely flip out if I was texting or friendly enough with a co-worker.
I think a lot of women wouldn't be so accepting if those behaviors were reversed.
For some couples this would bring them closer. It really depends on the couple.
From his reaction; I do not believe they had a polyamorous or otherwise open relationship.
My wife would never do something like this but if she did, it wouldn't be a laugh it off sort of thing. It would be a find your own way home sort of thing.
Yes. I too would agree. She did not have the interests of the partner in mind or his thought’s when she went up on stage to do the dirty so it is a show of her priorities.I would understand a small error of mis judgement but not something where you know you will be recorded for all to see.
To me it'd be a find your way to a new home kinda thing.
It'd be a find your own way to your own home kind of thing
She would kick you out of your home with the divorce lawyers.
Marriage law is pure misandrist garbage.
Man is created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord, and by this means to save his soul.
And the other things on the face of the earth are created for man and that they may help him in prosecuting the end for which he is created.
From this it follows that man is to use them as much as they help him on to his end, and ought to rid himself of them so far as they hinder him as to it.
For this it is necessary to make ourselves indifferent to all created things in all that is allowed to the choice of our free will and is not prohibited to it; so that, on our part, we want not health rather than sickness, riches rather than poverty,honor rather than dishonor, long rather than short life, and so in all the rest; desiring and choosing only what is most conducive for us to the end for which we are created
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I would not be mad, I would be glad that I identified and dodged a bullet. Also I always try to remain calm under any situation. Anger will lead to you making wrong decisions.
So true brotha
Its a hypothetical, as if you were married. Technically you didn't doge shit because if you realized she wasn't the one, the next step would be divorce, and now you know where we are heading. half of your income.
@@jmtexxnah u can seperate without a divorce. Just sleep around or get a new gf. Also, some people have prenups
Best possible response. Don’t get mad, just leave. Also, don’t get married in the first place.
Exactly brother. It just means she's showed that part of herself, and you know her better to make better decisions in the future
I find it crazy that someone with as deep and critical thought as you can also feel like it's no problem for the people you love to do this, regardless of the gender, if the man has a girlfriend and he was doing that, it's horrible. If a girl has a boyfriend and she does that, it's horrible. If you give yourself to a person and want to trust that person fully, then you should reciprocate that by being trustworthy. Sexual conduct regardless of with clothes on or off is still of the most disrespectful acts you can do to one of the people you supposedly "love".
Yes, people should care if their spouse was making a sexual scene in front of a huge crowd, therefore downgrading the person they're married to and the marriage itself.
It's obviously that women's fault.
Yes. She did not have her husbands thoughts or feelings in mind instead she had her own. It is a show of character of who she is when drastic decisions are left to her.I could not trust a person with marriage if they did not have my best interests or concerns in mind. That too applies to the husband if he is willing to act drastic instead of patient calm and collective.
I feel that in a moral standpoint if you are trying to live a life with a woman and a traditional manner you have the right to say something
It doesn't matter if it's not traditional, a man doesn't let himself get cucked
My take is if it's not ok to do something with a stranger, its not ok to do it with a celebrity. If the person I love did this with anybody id be really upset. Getting a hug or something like that is a different story. I think the only thing that would ease the tension and would make it "a joke" would to go up on stage and perform the same action on the celebrity afterwards. Obviously that's a super unrealistic scenario that would likely get you kicked from a concert, but that might be the point I'm trying to make. It's just flat out not appropriate, and is an obvious power move. Something that youd then have to live with knowing that you and everyone you're close to knows about or has seen that you have been dry cucked for lack of a better term.
I'd feel betrayed and angry. Sexual acts are something intimate to me, there's a reason that I don't simply go out and fuck around, was new to dating apps and didn't last long on tinder as I realized "this ain't it chief", even if it was as a joke, something like that has meaning to me, there was a point in my life where I tried out the other route briefly, left me with regret, loneliness, and misery, so I returned to this current route, though I almost went back to it and was thankfully rejected when I had the lapse in judement fully pushing me back to this track, admittedly I didn't pull it off completely on my own. If this were to happen to me, to see that something of this nature isn't a special way of connection to an s/o as I'd had hoped it would be, it would be painful. Now the rage out on stage ehhhh, I'd say there's a better time and place for a discussion or in their case most likely an argument, but that there was as far as I see it, betrayal to him. And this particular kind of betrayal is painful to witness for me.
It all depends on the boundaries you set, if you find yourself in a certain situation where you have to "think" about how you should "feel" about it, then that's a clear indicator of a lack of boundaries.
" it all depends " yea .. if u re a cockold or not ..
I agree with this. Boundaries and communication is very important. Even if you think that your partner would be comfortable with something its always important to talk to them about it beforehand.
I use your videos as logic puzzles to hash through my own viewpoints. So thanks for making them as they are now. I image as your channel grows the content will change which may drive me away but it truly feels like i am sitting across from you in conversation about the short clip shown.
The husband shouldn't have gotten in her face about it. He should've gone home and left her there while he packs up and leaves.
That would have been the ideal response but we aren't living in an ideal world.
People who would just take that type of disrespect to the face and calmly walk it off are negligible compared to the entire population.
People just don't accept disrespect straight to the face specifically when it's about something that could include your family like if they were engaged or married.
As a woman, I say that I just showed who I really was. I showed myself as impulsive and that I put priority on getting attention. I would expect a man who I was with, at the very least, to consider whether or not that is the kind of woman he wishes to be with now that he's seen this snapshot of where that behavior leads. It maybe, be harmless as I didn't actually cheat, but not so harmless because it could also translate into things like how I spend my money.
It used to be womanhood prided itself on restraint. But now, restraint is seen as weakness and evidence of the patriarchy. And I don't believe that is a good thing.
Would you feel the same if the man was tall, handsome and in private? Because ultimately it is the same act, the only difference would be the amount of perceived threat you understand him to be, but ultimately that is only your perception and not the act itself.
No way. I'd NEVER do that to my husband. I'm embarrassed for her and for him. That's just so disrespectful. And I always think do onto others as you would have them do onto you. Especially when it comes to your significant other. She would be SO jealous if there were some younger girl grinding on her husband, she would lose it, probably get all emotional, cry, maybe even try to fight the girl. When it comes to flirting or cheating, I believe there is 100% equality there. Husband or wife, it's not okay. I give my husband the most respect not only because it's how I'd want to be treated, but also because he deserves that. As do I. We are both extremely loyal, we had both been cheated on before getting together, and we both made each other feel as secure as possible because we could relate to how the other was feeling. Bottom line, it's the least you can do in a relationship and if not, you shouldn't be in a relationship.
I mean, once you're in a committed relationship with someone, these sorts of things are non-negotiable. It's all a matter of respect for your significant other.
That video just makes me feel glad to be engaged to the woman I'm engaged to. Very respectful and conservative. She wouldn't even do that with me in a public place let alone with someone else. Love ya babe.
Yes its very disrespectful and even shameful.
I am very progresive and im all in for woman exploring their sexuality in whatever shape or form they want, but this is just faul lol.
If you are in a monogamous relationship with your partner its a given that having sex with clothes on is not right and could be counted as cheating.
Coming from a woman - this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour. It's pretty degenarate to do this, when you are single, this is next level. I know I would break up if my partner would do something like this and I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who would laugh it off, if I portrayed such behaviour.
Some people might confuse the man being upset here with toxic masculinity. I think it is more about BOUNDARIES than toxicity. For a lot of men seeing their significant other behave like this would cross a line for them. I don't think there is anything wrong with setting boundaries about physical contact with others. If that doesn't work for both parties, then it's best for them to move on.
What I really find problematic is how people often try make their boundaries the gold standard for everyone. The toxic component is how people attempt to shame individuals into fitting with their morals. Usually pertaining to sexuality.
That is why I am not a fan of 'Manosphere' content, at least the content that YT seems to think I want to see. The issues that the 'Manosphere' bring up are still important, so dismissing it completely as toxic is unhelpful for society.
"Toxic masculinty" is a paradoxical oxymoron created by sexist feminists who hate men for being male.
For me, it would be a relationship ending event. If wifey is ready to grind herself against a celebrity on stage in front of an audience, what she's ready to do in private?
This is not toxic masculinity; he didn't "defended" wifey from the singer. That's a way better reaction than Will Smith.
I think it becomes very much dependant on the relationship. Is it important to you or your spouse that you are publicly "possessive" of each other, is it part of how you each feel validated and cared for.
Or is that not important to you and the comedy of the situation is easily worthwhile. I think that either response, when in a healthily communicative relationship, is perfectly fine
Tbh you shouldn’t be mad at this happening
Losing someone like that isn’t a loss, they just showed you who they are and it’s not what you hoped it would be
Only thing you should be considering is if you should still have contact with each other
(I wouldn’t in this situation but you do you)
What people fail to see here is that she's not getting an autograph or a hug from her fav celebrity or something, literally jumping on another man and grinding against him especially when your in a relationship is not something anyone should do , man or woman, the problem with people these days is that they try to cover everything that they do wrong under the guise of fun and jokes, would they still say the same thing if the man would have been doing it.
I would be too embarrassed to do that on stage and honestly, any husband/partner should be highly embarrassed too!
The husband had the full right to be angry. I wouldn't personally care anymore for her that much to go up the stage and tell her to stop. She acted in an unconscious and miserable way, for her, her husband/boyfriend meant so little to even think weather he approves this or not. I would have left her there, went home and she would need to find somewhere else to sleep. Utterly disgusting
Damn. Forget girlfriend, forget wife, if a person did that i would straight up not interact with them. Ever. Period.
No anger, all disgust. That is some subhuman behaviour and should be treated as such.
As a man I would feel disrespected. How would she feel if I went up on stage and let a woman grind all over me? It has as much to do with loyalty as it does masculinity. A man a real masculin man is loyal to his woman and she should show him the same respect.
I can’t even picture myself being involved in anyway with someone that would do this sort of things 😂
I prob do tho 😂
To me self respect is beautiful and important that I would just leave the place and later talk to her just to let her know that I will no longer be a part of her life. And I say this because she will have knowledge from me of what things like this will cause, way before things like this happen
When you get married, you vow only to honor your spouse. Getting air raped at a concert violated those vows. Some women don't seem to grasp that.
There isn't a "duty" to be angry here, but the scenario itself is distressing especially depending on how serious the relationship is already. It is as big of a deal as the person you're dating means to you, and how much trust she violated by doing this action. Guess it depends on the context but IMO this is an immediate break-off, because celeb or not what happened there was BS.
I guess the answer is, if you don't want to be with a person who does stuff like that, just don't. If you dont care, date them and rid the other half of the problem of dealing with them
My significant other should not be doing sexual grinding on any man, just like how shouldn't be grinded on by any woman in the guise of "fun." That's just disrespectful and going against the sacred companionship between the couple. What if I start paying for other women in the guise of "homies from way back?" Or I start treating them like a woman I'd like to provide for? Where does it stop? Boundaries must be respected and at least KNOWN for each other.
And you're only kidding yourself when you say that a guy you've never met can grind on your woman and you'd think it's all funny, until you hear her whisper to her friends "Yeah girl, and he was chubby but kinda cute!"
if she's doing this in front of you just imagine what would she do when you are not around, this woman can't be trusted because she doesn't have any sense of loyalty and respect if this happens to me I simply walk away and break up with her.
Okay so, I made up my mind when he said “husband”. My answer is cold head angry. Meaning Yes, angry because of what the wife did, because you as a woman don’t get to just jump on stage and grind a singer while getting pissed off whenever the husband looks at another woman on the streets. And cold head because the man needs to solve the problem in such a way that he doesn’t end up suffering even more than he already is.
Very insightful. I always Seem to learn something from you Mr White Kanye West.
Considering what boundaries I've set with my partner, I think context is super important given this scenario. Me and my gf have an open relationship and have discussed being okay with the other being intimate with others. As such, the context is important. With this scenario in particular I doubt I would be okay with it given the public view and the lack of me knowing (I'm assuming the woman in the video didn't tell her husband about it and he was surprised). However if its just the idea of my gf being with another man, I wouldn't be against it if I knew the person was decent and me and her talked about it beforehand. I hear it so often it sounds cheesy but communication cannot be understated as the most important part of a relationship.
Haha I don’t have anything to add, you said this perfectly, I just wanted to say hi -w-
A male who let's his woman get intimate with others is not a man.
@@Altair-El-Haddad maybe in some cases. Maybe there are some who just aren't confident or confrontational enough to speak up when their partner does something they don't like. Those people do exist, and that's mostly their problem to deal with. But that can be a journey. To overcome that inability to stand up for one's self. Sometimes people in that situation need a push in the right direction so that they can learn to speak up, and do something when someone acts a way that makes them feel uncomfortable in a relationship. So your unnecessary jab at my masculinity aside, there is a legitimate point to be discussed there.
@@mistybirb not reading all of that, my point still stands. Grow a pair.
@@Altair-El-Haddad lol nah, don't really feel like it tbh. I'm pretty happy with my life so I'm good. Hope you can find something more productive to occupy your time. Tbh I should probably do the same but eh, its whatever.
I would not be angry but grateful to have the justification to end that relationship. Life is too short to waste time on childish things
Yeah. Each spouse is a representative of their counterpart. Respect is not only needed inside confines of the house, but outside too.
My wife would not even dream of doing something like this. She doesn’t have to question if I would be okay with something like this; she knows how I think and the image this portrays.
Every couple should have discussions about things like this, a lot of people would not appreciate that, so it's best to avoid this catastrophe with a simple conversation.
The lack of maturity and respect (for herself and her husband) are deal breakers. Period.
I can honestly understand if people get offended if their partner does this, it’s embarrassing, it’s cringe, and it could mean she is willing to be unfaithful in the right circumstances, not 100% but it’s a possibility, each situation depends person to person, relationship to relationship.
I feel like i would just laugh about it whatever side of the situation im on (the guy or the woman on stage)
I only found your stuff today but you know what I love about this video? The fact that you said, you didn't know what the answer is. That's real. Enjoying your takes man.
Marriage is all about responsibility & dedication to the person as well as the institution. That kind of behaviour shows her sense of responsibility & her dedication to her husband as well as the institution.
This is completely unacceptable behavior for me. If that was my wife, me and my whole family will be coming down hard on her. If that was my girlfriend, I would instantly ghost her.
What is laughable is the fact that in today’s world there are people who say “just laugh it off” it’s disrespect to the husband on the highest degree. If i was him i would just leave without a single word and never look back, these people who disrespect their significant other in such a way don’t deserve even an explanation.
I had a girl I started talking to back in the day we went to a school function (like deadass a school function as a fundraiser for the senior class) and she grinded on other dudes in one case in front of me. Her friends got pissed at me cause the day after I stopped talking to her. So my bias is that the wife fucked up.
First I’d just like to take a second to appreciate this channel, and it’s content as well as the variety of opinions this channel showcases. To the matter at hand I’m looking at this from two different points of view. The first being, is the Gentleman in question acting out of embarrassment because perhaps he has friends or family members in the audience. Naturally this isn’t the way he would want his wife to portray herself. Second is his reaction out of confusion at the thought that this is a side of his wife he isn’t accustom to therefore planting a seed in his mind which will make him consider “if this is how she would act in a public setting with a Huge audience, how would she act in a more private setting with a more attractive other”. Again the @anti.prophet has brought forth an idea for me to think deeply! Which I appreciate greatly.
Irrespective of what my partner would have thought, that was just awful even to watch. I cannot imagine myself doing any of that. Gosh it's awful.
Hell nah thats MY WIFE why would either one of us be allowed to do some shit like that let alone on stage in front of 100-1000s of ppl
As a man I'd rather not have the person whom I swore an oath of loyalty to and vice versa grinding on someone else. In the case of marriage. As far as dating goes it makes me question their loyalty if she was willing to do that with me there what would she do when I was gone?
It's not about what's right or wrong, it's about respect, as a man I will hold respect for myself and in this case never allow my significant other to disrespect me like that, even if it means nothing to me. And as a woman, she should have more respect for herself then that, I would never be with a woman that has so little respect for herself. In simple terms, it's not about what was done, but it did display that her values don't match mine and I would never be with her.
Couples boundaries should be clear. If this is something that was discussed and this would happen i would be pissed. Ex: I went to a music festival while my gf couldn't come and a a girl asked if she could get on my shoulder to take a picture of Sum 41 as we had a tall gate in front of us, I said fine, she got on my shoulder took the picture and went on with her life. When i told my gf she was pissed from the idea of having a another girls v... touching my neck, which I can understand. Did i went the "well i am a free man blah blah blah...", no, my behavior hurt someone I love deeply so i put myself in her shoes for a second and now that this boundary is clear, I would never do it again out of respect for her. Do i really need to have the freedom to have girls sitting on my shoulder while in a long term relationship? no, this is not something i need in my life to feel free and be happy.
Now, do I think that throwing a fit on stage in front of the whole audience and shaming your gf is the right way to deal with this? Obviously not, but should a discussion about it should be had between the two in a private environment if this pissed off the guy, most definitely yes.
But if this was brought up before and this is not the first time such a thing happen and a discussion ensued about this in the past, i would probably go on the: well i guess we don't fit together if you need to pursue behaviors that i do not accept so lets end this. You ain't a bad person, I ain't a bad one either, our values don't match so let's go on with our lives separately.
We lack a lot of info to really have an opinion on this and understand the nuances of their relationship, aka, let's mind our own business here.
i think the problem is what comes affter that, because it go in scales, what kind of boundaries does your relationship have, does the man does the same kind of stuff, should he?
When it's like this and I don't know what to do and think, I just reverse it. Now it goes like:
_"Do my wife would appreciate Nicky Minaj dry riding me on a chair publicly and in front of her while I clearly enjoy it?"_
I feel like my question is rhetorical
It's a fucked up thing to do, if you don't feel this way, either you have never been in a relationship where you genuinely loved the other person or you just are incapable of jealousy, either is no good.
I’d thank the guy on stage for helping me dodge a bullet.
My girl would never do that and if she does, she ain’t my girl anymore
When i see a dude out in public raising his voice to a woman or being violet, i always think that it has to start from somewhere. Like behind closed doors, a "comfort for being abusive" had to be initiated. If he is indeed that confirms with being that way in public, then at home must be way worse.
This is what comes to mind when i see this video. If she can do all that with the guy on stage with her husband watching, then there is no telling what she may be doing when he isn't there behind closed doors.
Usually, women say it's an insecurity or Incel mindset but if they had actual attractive "Chad" type husband who Were grinding/ being grinded on, they'd flip the script real quick. They can't even handle their dudes liking a chix page on IG.
It’s public humiliation for any man with dignity
Entering a relationship is like entering a contract. You should know what your partners boundaries are on these things and respect that so unless she and her partner established that this was okay to both of them yeah this is messed up.
Open relationships, poly relationships, all that jazz is fine but it needs to be consentual for all involved and the reaction of that man showed he did not consent to his partner grinding on another man
Bro how could you not fucked up by this.??
I honestly was a great fan of yours but your this advice really had to question myself!
I’d just take note and do the same next week
This shouldn't even be open for debate. She doesn't know what respect is...
Take the stoic approach to everything. That right there just let you know who she really is. For the streets. Less stress makes everything better
Definitely inappropriate for the wife to do that, unless her husband is in on the joke with her.
Wasn't that a NORMAL reaction?
BTW I really love watching your vids bro. Mabuhay!
My opinion is that i find it cool to see your self reflection, its incredibly admirable
I think that this is really messed up since marriage is a commitment and both parties have to show respect by not doing anything they think is okay unless the other party think that it is too
I'd just leave and never give her another chance, even to explain herself. Her actions are not okay. She should know it as an adult, grown ass woman.
It’d be apocalyptic. We can do this and that, say this and that BUT no touch. 🌺❣️
I believe it all comes down to boundaries, and what your relationship is like. There are people who in their relationships would allow this kind of thing and laugh it off because they’ve established that it’s okay, but there are also people who would not be okay with this because they had already put those boundaries in place to say it’s not okay, which is why you have guys who would say “my wife would never be in this situation”. This is why relationships are hard to give broad advice to, because disrespect in my relationship may not be disrespect in yours, the manospere is okay for general guidelines on how to carry yourself, but there is a lot of critical thinking that has to go into applying it in the long term (from my observations)
I think it depends on the boundaries set between the relationship, and I think that the truth is that what affects people is wildly different. Per example my partner and I have no issue with each other going to strip clubs (hell we've been to some together and had a lot of fun) but wouldn't be okay doing something like that as it feels public and exposed.
Somebody could look at our relationship and disagree about how we feel, but since the bounderies work for us and we respect each other within our bounderies, then we're fine.
In this case, the guy was obviously not okay with it which is why it was disrespectful. But if her partner was amused by it, it wouldn't matter.
While the manosphere can have some advice that are good for men, I think in recent years it went to far. You don't need to change your character to impress some random dudes online. You need to become a person that you can respect and find a partner that respect you for who you are. Everything outside of that doesn't matter
Everyone’s using this word boundaries where is the respect
If your standarts are lower than the depths of Hell then I'd say go for it.
100% a wife/girlfriend shouldn't do that! I feel like it's disrespectful and goes outside the bounds of a committed relationship. And it's kinda humiliating I'd imagine .
Where I’m from this is a stoning offence. Amazed that men in the west even debate these things 😂
I get jealous if my girlfriend even looks at another man, I wasn't always this way but that hypothetical situation would likely be the end of our relationship 1 because I repeatedly express how I dislike the thought of anything like that happening to my partner, and I genuinely feel like expressing sexuality with another man will ruin exclusivity. That being said I'm very curious how you wouldn't care since that could actually be very useful to me in the case my partner finds someone else attractive, I feel like it's unfair for me to be angry with her about something she can't control but the feeling of jealousy I get in these situations is very tangible and overwhelming and it almost seems like I'm actively seeking it out, if anybody has advice it would be so appreciated, thank you so much🙏
It can be both broski 💯 Just another example of the duality of human existence. Its really everywhere. Even more so now a days 😂😂😂
I would get mad, I find unbelievable that ppl would actually not care like bro, that’s your girl getting grinded on by some stranger. Like I know it’s nowhere near as bad as actual cheating but it shows that she’s willing to make you uncomfortable for the sake of her so called enjoyment/fun time
As a woman, I would never do that to my boyfriend/husband. And if I ever did, I hope he gets upset with me cause that's not okay. How can you say you love someone but then do sexual acts with another person!? Doing it in front of a crowd especially communicates that you don't think of your significant other as special to you and/or you don't care about their feelings.
I understand that some couples may agree on having open relationships, but clearly that was not agreed on between these two.
It’s all about context, if they set boundaries before hand and this went past he should be mad, if it doesn’t he shouldn’t, but if no boundaries were set it’s something that deserves a conversation not anger
A woman (or man, for that matter) who acts like that publicly isn't marrying material. You shouldn't be bumping and grinding on somebody where a whole room, or auditorium, as the case may be, of people can see you. You should have more respect for yourself.
If a woman with a boyfriend or husband can do this, then the boyfriend/husband should be able to do the equivalent with random women. Either they're both okay, or neither of them are (though I think it's the latter).
Her actions one way or another would affect him. Being emotionally invested into something comes with well, emotions. Now given that 2 people mutually decide to be together one should take into account themselves but also the other. The fact that she acted and he reacted shows his emotional response yes, (which I don’t necessarily agree with but I have negative reactions of my own I don’t agree with) but it moreso shows her lack of understanding him. If she’s willing to act on something that crosses a boundary of mutual respect (that clearly they don’t see eye to eye on) she should account for how it would affect him. Otherwise what’s the actual point of being together what’s the goal? This could just be an opinion or useful insight hopefully the latter.
Haha, I just posted something similar but was trying to keep it short.
Agreed, though, not something I would invest too much emotion into.
@@ShinigamiBear haha keeping it short is a skill I’m trying to grow but not there yet
To me its not about as a man or as a woman
When you’re on a relationship you have certain boundaries you both agree upon and there’s a certain level of respect and consideration to the other person
Depends on the situation, but in my view, it wouldn’t really be okay to me if i saw my partner doing that to another person “as a joke”, in that specific scenario
As soon as this happens it's not a joke whether they view it that way or not. it's a breach of trust and the relationship
I'd be mad not at him but at my girl. Bro is just putting on a show and grinding on some random chick for his, hers and our entertainment. My girl letting another guy grind on her though, and infront of me no less, would make me anything but happy. If she only let it happen because she didn't want to ruin the show or felt to embarrassed to do anything, then I wouldn't be mad of course. But if she acted all happy like this girl did then I would question if she's really the girl I want to spend the rest of my life with
That is an interesting question and I also have similar doubts about this kind of topic. My thoughts in this specific case is that I wouldn't be angry for the act itself but I wouldn't want a woman who behaves like that.
The true test of any action or decision in a relationship is to flip the situation, how would SHE feel and react to HIM allowing a beautiful woman to grind on him on stage?😮.......yeah
I think if your In relationship trusting one another is the most important thing. So if this situation where me I would have not angry or feel ashamed if I where the wife. Cuz I would have a enough trust with the person I was in a relationship, we know that where being faithful so we would not get up at each for a situation like this. Know if you partner was a know cheater and had been unfaithful prior to this happen it might feel different.
Respect in relationships, think as a team, which may or may not affect the relationship according to agreements between two. Values. And only these two know if they were mature enough to define those agreements so that according to their actions it affects their relationship or not,or if they flatly do not respect each other (according to this video and the reaction of both). In this particular video, in my opinion, only the woman is making a fool of herself.
I see what you did there. 👏👏
i am more offended that the security and others is trying to escort him off...
If you are in a committed relationship with that woman her doing that in front of people with another man is openly disrespecting you. One should care when their partner openly disrespect you. I wouldn’t run up on stage but I couldn’t see myself staying with a person so okay with just publicly disrespecting me like that.
idk i believe that she threw his respect out since it is public snd immortalized because of social media so because of that it makes sense that hes angry because of the embarassment that it would entail in their daily life but even so it will probably disappear in a week or so but the respect and trust that the man has for her is probably gone
As far as I'm concerned, that little show off is showing her true colors, and I won't trust her as far as I could jump the Grand Canyon