If we are being technical, the clash between Moebius and Ouroboros is basically the idology clash of Logos and Pneuma, but applied on humanities hopeful and fearful wills. Origin Metal is inherently linked to the Souls of Origin and get their power from their wills as Melia and Nia explained thanks to their keys of Origins databank. The sword of end takes its shape from the wills of Origin, which are either on the side of hope or despair, hence N's Blade appears as a Moebius Blade even before becoming N, as he already imbued it with Moebius feelings. Noah's will is then a hopeful one and this is why his and also Matthew's Blades inherit that green Pneuma glow. They aren't literally there, since that is the whole reason Future Redeemed happened in the first place, but humanity became unto Gods thanks to being control of Origin and it turned the conflict of Meyneth vs Zanza and Pneuma vs Logos on a macroscopic scale of all of humanity in the form of Ouroboros vs Moebius. I also like that the conclusion isn't to reject Moebius, but to accept it. It's peak.
@@nicovoth7243 To be fair, Origin conceptually is just the trinity processor in full. Built on the structures and ideology of Ontos - destroying a world to make way for one's idea of a brighter future, Given the faces of the two with power who upheld that belief in each respective part of the whole (Meyneth, Amalthus), and requiring two avatars with two drivers to operate the machine. While the hands were passed multiple times and the bearer of the role of driver and blade changed, at the end of the day its still just the same war finally coming to a conclusion.
The strings play Off-Seer Mio during the section where the horns play Off-Seer Noah, so all 4 of the core leitmotifs are represented in this one track. In fact, it's the only track that features all of them iirc
I actually prefer the version of this song that opens with the Ouroboros motif. It cycles Ouroboros -> Off-seer Mio -> Off-seer Noah -> Moebius in that order, which tells the story of Noah's life, starting as Ouroboros until he lost Mio so many times, and when he eventually met his own end, was offered the bargain by Moebius.
@@TheZirkwerksI understand what you're saying, but since neither Noah nor Mio were off-seers in their past lives, it's not possible for this to tell N's story.
@@CarlosAlonit doesn't matter when they became literal off-seers. The motifs represent the narrative idea of Noah and Mio, which includes N and M. You'd notice while watching the beginning of Ch 6 that those leitmotifs still appear in cutscenes that depict N and M's lives before they became Moebius. Also by their very nature, the Off-seer melodies also represent the idea of death. In the specific order of the Part 2 arrangement, the medley of leitmotifs tells us this story: "Ouroboros, Death of Mio, Death of Noah, Moebius". That is literally the EXACT order of events depicted in the flashbacks of Ch 6. It's 100% a deliberate narrative and artistic choice to arrange the song like that, given the context of N's story. Nothing can diminish or take away from that. Coincidence or not (I firmly believe it is not), It's brilliant.
Specifically the Moebius theme adapted into 6/8, instead of its usual 4/4. Arguably, that's just to make it easier to segue into the Ouroboros theme (which is normally in 6/8), but given the level of musical storytelling on display in the rest of the soundtrack, I'm inclined to guess that it was a deliberate decision to represent that there's still some Ouroboros left in N despite being ostensibly Moebius. This lines up with the fact that he's not called "Moebius N" in this fight, which in turn represents that this boss battle is not a matter of N trying to preserve the Endless Now in his role as a Moebius so much as it's a matter of him personally trying to change something about the world (the fact that Noah isn't dead enough), which is inherently the goal of Ouroboros.
@TetraBreak-j1i a masterpiece made out of many masterpieces each made with different masterpiece instruments all in a masterpiece game that is part of a masterpiece game series 🤔
00:00 to 2:22 is Noah and N phase 1. The rest, is Noah and N phase 2. Actually this edit is missing the beginning from Phase 2. Phase 1 is the Moebius theme mixed with Crys's off seer theme. Phase 2 is a combination of the Ouroboros Theme, Crys's off seer, the city and Feelings upon this melody. This song is a masterpiece, it truly matches N’s origins and his feelings through his final battle
I was waiting for someone to upload this track's ost version, I know this track isn't as popular as some other big ones but still, I'm surprised this is the first upload of the ost version
I still don´t understand why game doesn´t win best ost in the VGA. I played GOWR and is great, but XC3 OST will be eternal in all the memories that played the game. I barely remember a song of the GOWR OST...
Yeahhh it’s just a popularity contest, really. GoW doesn’t really play music that often either. It’s nice music but it isn’t exactly a big thing they were going for in the game. Other nominees other than Xenoblade would’ve been more fitting as well. But I think XB3 by far has the best OST out of all the nominees
Mfw M was much scarier to fight than N. And conniving with her little trick she pulls to make N do what he does and realizes the centrifuge and snaps like a twig. And M neutralized X's abilities for the group. That moment was just like "OHHHH MY GOD!!"
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tfw N vs Noah was just a clash of Pneuma vs Logos again
I love how while Logos chose N, Pneuma chose his entire family
@@asprinjuice425technically her step family beacause Mio but yeah
If we are being technical, the clash between Moebius and Ouroboros is basically the idology clash of Logos and Pneuma, but applied on humanities hopeful and fearful wills. Origin Metal is inherently linked to the Souls of Origin and get their power from their wills as Melia and Nia explained thanks to their keys of Origins databank. The sword of end takes its shape from the wills of Origin, which are either on the side of hope or despair, hence N's Blade appears as a Moebius Blade even before becoming N, as he already imbued it with Moebius feelings. Noah's will is then a hopeful one and this is why his and also Matthew's Blades inherit that green Pneuma glow. They aren't literally there, since that is the whole reason Future Redeemed happened in the first place, but humanity became unto Gods thanks to being control of Origin and it turned the conflict of Meyneth vs Zanza and Pneuma vs Logos on a macroscopic scale of all of humanity in the form of Ouroboros vs Moebius. I also like that the conclusion isn't to reject Moebius, but to accept it. It's peak.
@@nicovoth7243 To be fair, Origin conceptually is just the trinity processor in full. Built on the structures and ideology of Ontos - destroying a world to make way for one's idea of a brighter future, Given the faces of the two with power who upheld that belief in each respective part of the whole (Meyneth, Amalthus), and requiring two avatars with two drivers to operate the machine. While the hands were passed multiple times and the bearer of the role of driver and blade changed, at the end of the day its still just the same war finally coming to a conclusion.
@@drakath5727 And seperated from his balancing brother and sister, hes pretty much on a runaway effect.
Boss track that could easily be mistaken for a symphonic movement. Xenoblade's OST are criminally underrated.
That's because this fight, before it and after it is incredibly cinematic.
Moebius theme, then ouroboros theme, and finally "offseer Noah theme"
Man i love this track
The strings play Off-Seer Mio during the section where the horns play Off-Seer Noah, so all 4 of the core leitmotifs are represented in this one track. In fact, it's the only track that features all of them iirc
I actually prefer the version of this song that opens with the Ouroboros motif.
It cycles Ouroboros -> Off-seer Mio -> Off-seer Noah -> Moebius in that order, which tells the story of Noah's life, starting as Ouroboros until he lost Mio so many times, and when he eventually met his own end, was offered the bargain by Moebius.
@@TheZirkwerksI understand what you're saying, but since neither Noah nor Mio were off-seers in their past lives, it's not possible for this to tell N's story.
@@CarlosAlonit doesn't matter when they became literal off-seers. The motifs represent the narrative idea of Noah and Mio, which includes N and M.
You'd notice while watching the beginning of Ch 6 that those leitmotifs still appear in cutscenes that depict N and M's lives before they became Moebius. Also by their very nature, the Off-seer melodies also represent the idea of death.
In the specific order of the Part 2 arrangement, the medley of leitmotifs tells us this story: "Ouroboros, Death of Mio, Death of Noah, Moebius".
That is literally the EXACT order of events depicted in the flashbacks of Ch 6. It's 100% a deliberate narrative and artistic choice to arrange the song like that, given the context of N's story. Nothing can diminish or take away from that. Coincidence or not (I firmly believe it is not), It's brilliant.
Specifically the Moebius theme adapted into 6/8, instead of its usual 4/4. Arguably, that's just to make it easier to segue into the Ouroboros theme (which is normally in 6/8), but given the level of musical storytelling on display in the rest of the soundtrack, I'm inclined to guess that it was a deliberate decision to represent that there's still some Ouroboros left in N despite being ostensibly Moebius. This lines up with the fact that he's not called "Moebius N" in this fight, which in turn represents that this boss battle is not a matter of N trying to preserve the Endless Now in his role as a Moebius so much as it's a matter of him personally trying to change something about the world (the fact that Noah isn't dead enough), which is inherently the goal of Ouroboros.
No matter how many times i come back to this track it remains a masterpiece in my mind just the same
Thats probably because this track is a masterpiece in a masterpiece game series' Crown Jewel.
@TetraBreak-j1i a masterpiece made out of many masterpieces each made with different masterpiece instruments all in a masterpiece game that is part of a masterpiece game series
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This is everything to me.
I like how the track transitions from a tragic perspective 00:59, followed by a sad tune 2:24 and concluding with hope 4:07.
00:00 to 2:22 is Noah and N phase 1. The rest, is Noah and N phase 2.
Actually this edit is missing the beginning from Phase 2.
Phase 1 is the Moebius theme mixed with Crys's off seer theme. Phase 2 is a combination of the Ouroboros Theme, Crys's off seer, the city and Feelings upon this melody.
This song is a masterpiece, it truly matches N’s origins and his feelings through his final battle
I was waiting for someone to upload this track's ost version, I know this track isn't as popular as some other big ones but still, I'm surprised this is the first upload of the ost version
It only took this long because this person is uploading the songs in order and this is late into the ost
@@asprinjuice425I swear I see you everywhere
funny you say that when this song is one of the highest in terms of views for what this channels uploaded
I still don´t understand why game doesn´t win best ost in the VGA. I played GOWR and is great, but XC3 OST will be eternal in all the memories that played the game. I barely remember a song of the GOWR OST...
Big AAA release compared to JRPG. It’s sad, but alas…
Game Awards are so Triple AAA biased, it's incredible lol
Yeahhh it’s just a popularity contest, really. GoW doesn’t really play music that often either. It’s nice music but it isn’t exactly a big thing they were going for in the game. Other nominees other than Xenoblade would’ve been more fitting as well. But I think XB3 by far has the best OST out of all the nominees
@@cocoacave2474Sony or just AAA in general maybe but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some deals behind the scenes.
It didn't win because the other nominees got more votes.
God it’s just so good, I can’t get enough…
I’m gonna go replay xc3 (again)
Mfw M was much scarier to fight than N. And conniving with her little trick she pulls to make N do what he does and realizes the centrifuge and snaps like a twig. And M neutralized X's abilities for the group. That moment was just like "OHHHH MY GOD!!"
She wanted you to go back to the name noah she wanted you to call her the name mio
Still bonkers anyone thought God of bore soundtrack was anywhere close to this lol That was when I fully accepted most media awards are BS.
Yup. Its just a popularity contest and not a soundtrack contest
"Wrong?! I'VE NEVER BEEN MORE SURE OF ANYTHING IN MY LIFE! I'll kill you.. And take Mio back"
Poor N..so blinded by grief that he can't see straight No more😢😢
It's what you both wanted, right?
Well then... Easy choice
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