I will be honest, if that track had made it into smash bros, then it would be both original and this variation. Love them both, even if I prefer the newer one a little bit more.
@@KeyToAeris2024 6th. It may not be from a numbered entry, but The Key We Lost from X is too good for forget, and in my opinion stands alongside the other Xenoblade final boss themes.
"Oh, I'm not the bad guy. HE'S the bad guy." "Nah man, I ain't evil. HE'S the bad guy." "Ah, I was just messin' with ye. HE'S the bad guy." "Me???" "No. It's me...GOD. {Shulk attacks} Ahhh you killed me! And you...destroyed racism? Guhhhhh..."
The best thing is that Zanza, much like a lot of Xenoblade, is a subversion of JRPG tropes. You aren't fighting captital-G-God SMT-style, you're fighting a power drunk scumbag who used some machine so he can play god with people's lives who he literally considers lesser than bacteria; much like a kid torching ants with a magnifying glass. Which just about instantly makes you hate his guts.
I loved this subversion in the second game too, where you've been hearing about this divine figure (the Architect) during the whole game, just find he's nothing more than an old man full of regrets with no power whatsoever. He failed on his quest to become god and had to live with the consequences of his actions, while his other half saw the experiment as a success and became drunk with power.
Wouldn't call this a subversion at all, most JRPGs that have you "kill God" usually don't have you fighting that world's true creator. They are more often than not another god that usurped the title or a mortal who found a cool rock to get godlike powers.
@@justice8718 Well... The origin of conduit might be something even higher..... A being beyond our understanding... Something like, an japanese called Tetsuya Takahashi
I genuinely love the idea of Alvis watching these battles and laughing his ass off while Klaus has it open on a second monitor also laughing his ass off
**Spoilers for 1 and 2** Do you guys reckon Klaus, as the Architect and Alvis might have been able to talk to each other. Since Alvis seemed to be nearly as much a God as Zanza and in the end of Xenoblade 2 we hear Shulk's final line when striking down Zanza
@The Phantom You shouldn't be reading the comment section or even listen to this soundtrack if you haven't played the game and don't want to get spoiled.
That moment when you realize that Shulk's self-destructive workaholic mentality that he put towards researching the Monado was the influence of Zanza and could have very well led to him becoming completely consumed by his own curiosity in what he didn't know were the affairs of the gods-exactly like Egil. Shulk’s friends were literally the only thing that saved him, which I feel ties in greatly with them helping to create the Monado 3. What an amazing game this is.
Turns out, Dickson always encouraging him to work himself all the time fits this perfectly Even Reyn, who is part of the militia, follows those orders, albeit more lenient. But Fiora, Naw she drags him out of his hobbit hole again and again despite being told to stop.
@@ultrakleptomania I disagree. At the beginning of the game Dickson was encouraging Shulk to take a break from studying the Monado, which in my opinion is further evidence that Dickson really did care about Shulk at least somewhat.
Xenoblade has a habit of juxtaposing its main protagonists and anti-heroes like that. Shulk and Egil, Rex and Malos/Amalthus, Pyre/Mythra and Jin, Nia and Akhos...
@@brianv9242 idk if you've played it or if it's just been a while but against the final boss in xc future connected, the theme of the final boss from the main game plays in the first phase
He’s not bad, he’s just a kid. Zanza is thousands of years old, yet he can’t understand anything about life. He’s the one we should direct our rage at.
Every character was more alive with facial expressions but the crazy eyes they gave Zanza were probably the most noticeable, dude looked legit insane and it was great
@@conorneligan7694 OP is saying DE Zanza is better than og and I agree. He feels much more crazy in DE with proper expressions and not a .png looking face.
Zanza: "YOU MEER VESSEL DARE TO OPPOSE THE WILL OF A GOD" Me who is lv99, done all the sidequests, killed most unique monsters, maxed affinity, maxed skill tree, all advanced art books, great gear with maxed lv 6 gems: *yeah, and?*
That is due to the fact that this song is an event track. “Visions of the Future” only interrupts field tracks, which is the category that the usual battle songs belong to.
"Only the Divine may shape the future!" "OOAUGH!" "Mine is the one true Monado! Instrument of Destruction and Rebirth!" "Ugh!" "OOAUGH!" "Ugh!" "Ugh!" "Did you...? No! How can you still have visions!?" "OOAUGH!" "This is the power of a god!" "OOAUGH!" "Ugh!" "OOAUGH!" "OOAUGH!" "OOAUGH!"
Shulk on Metal Face be like: "I hate him, for what he did to the emperor and Fiora... But now I know there are people inside. I have to find out why! Would you even be willing to kill another homs?" Shulk on Egil be like: "If you raise your sword, then I will stop you. Again and again until we can finally understand eachother." Shulk on Zanza be like: "Fuck off! Nobody in this world wants you here! We're better off without you, so just stop existing!"
Zanza killed Shulk's family, stole his body, driven him on a quest that hurt so many, was the cause of *everything* in this game thanks to his unprovoked attack on Mechonis... Yeah, I'd be a little pissed.
Even after Shulk spared his life, Mumkhar still tried to kill them. I would have just let Dunban end him, especially considering he was going to die anyway. The guy was a sociopath.
@TheOriginalAcer let's not forget he was forced into killing the man who raised him as well. Despite all the other enemies Shulk had to either put down or talked down, the fight with Dickson hurt him the most. So he is understandably livid about that in particular. If only zanza didn't exist, he wouldn't have had to go through that.
@@ShadowSkyX Metal Face: sadistic psychopath or not, he was still human. Even if said person deserves it, some folks can't bring themselves to take the life of another person. Egil: Yes, carried out the war between the Mechon and the Homs as well as stuck all the Homs that the Mechon had abducted into Face suits, but he feels that he has no choice and, much like Shulk, was driven by a lust for revenge, and vengeance tends to be a neverending cycle Zanza: He wasn't crazy, he wasn't driven by revenge, he just wanted absolute control over the world, and it was his actions that allowed the horrid events to take place.
Does anyone else think it's cool that Zanza's name starts with the last letter of the alphabet and ends with the first? Kinda fits with his whole plan of destruction and recreation (he's the end and the new beginning).
Believe it or not, I think his name was kind of a mistranslation. It was supposed to be Xanthe, but I guess translation error happened or something and we got Zanza
@@loganrussell3064 No, it wasn't a mistranslation, the name was intended to be Zanza from the beginning. The name is a reference to the "Alpha and Omega", the beginning and the end, because Zanza thinks he's the true creator of the world (of course he's wrong). This symbology was used previously in Xenogears.
There's further symbolism of this with the fact he wants to keep a perpetual cycle of rebirth and destruction, and this is shown with the Monado 1 and 2 being in the shape of a musical note, as well as his wings and minions having music sheet symbolism, on top of those minions having LITERAL TREBLE CLEFFS for monados. You could say that he wanted to repeat the same song and dance. ----------------------- The theming of names also comes into play with Arglas, where he was the start of Zanza's release, and halfway through the story, he dies, as symbolized by the S being about halfway through the alphabet. This theming comes into further play if you take the note about Arglas dying halfway through with S and realize it was being used to symbolize Shulk becoming the new Zanza Host as soon as Arglas died, with Shulk's name starting with an S.
@@PeriviYohanesburgo Incidentally, Zanza's name is spelled similarly to some of the names given to African tongued instruments, most commonly known as kalimbas.
Why does Zanza bother killing the peoples of Bionis? Because if they’re alive, they’ll survive the universal reset. His powers are limited by Ontos’s providence.
Despite not being the strongest enemy in the game, Zanza has collectively, the most Health of any enemy at 1,150,000 HP. When in his original form at Mechonis Core, he has 750,000.
Yeah, counting all three phases Zanza has more than the Avalanche Abaasy. Both of them have the same resistances to Topple locking too. That said, the superbosses are still harder because they're always red level.
This is the nature of J/RPGs though, the final story boss is the weakest end game boss xD Which always bothered me with many games, this was one of them.
"I shall wipe you from this world and bring forth its demise!" "You are all doomed!" "This is the power of a god!" "Behold, supreme power!" "You cannot stand against a god!" "Mine is the one true Monado! Instrument of destruction and rebirth!" "No! How can you still have visions?"
Story spoilers. . . . . . . . I accidentally spoiled to myself that Zanza was going to be the final boss and main antagonist of the game. But I thought it was gonna be the Giant that was sealed on Prison Island. It turned out that wasn't Zanza at all, but rather a giant named Arglas being controlled by Zanza. I was not expecting Zanza to be a God and the soul of the Bionis incarnate. I wasn't expecting the Bionis to end up as the bad guy and the Mechonis just wanting to live in peace. Even when I thought I had spoiled myself, Xenoblade had so many plot twists that still managed to blindside me every step of the way. Goddamn I love this game.
@Manu Amadi Dude holy shit . . . . . . . I had actually beaten XC2 before playing through XCDE, so as soon as I saw the space station I started freaking out a bit lol. I also thought that them changing Alvis' key necklace to a core crystal in DE was just a cheeky little easter egg, like Malos wielding a Monado. Nah lol it's all connected. Alvis is Ontos, and each of the Trinity Processor's core crystals manifest as a Monado.
This is exactly what happened to me back when I played the Wii version. I loved the music so I was just listening to the ost and I noticed this song was the final boss theme, so I knew Zanza was going to be the final boss. But I never would’ve imagined Dickson turning on you, the High Entia turning into Telethia, etc. this game is phenomenal
I didn’t look up any spoilers before playing this game (I never played the original, as I was too young), and let me tell you, I was THROWN into a ride with this game‘s story. I laughed, I cried, but I mostly said “WHAT IS GOING ON.” I absolutely loved it, and I’m really sad that my first experience with the game is over.😅
I just wished they gave some sort of foreshadowing of Zanza like Shulk meeting him in person or Zanza swinging by to save his ass once. It really felt like Zenza(blonde) came out of nowhere. It was more of a Shit ton of information instead of a "ooohhh shit why didnt i realize it sooner" twist. Those are the best kinds of twists not the "wtf is going on twist"
Let me tell you the amazing way I beat the game. In the final phase, Zanza, only like 10% hp left, summoned minions. I tried to kill them to get back to Zanza, however, the minions took down Dunban with the help of Zanza, and did the same to Riki. I just used a chain attack, but it was so small it didn’t fill up a party gauge. I was then alone, and realized it was all or nothing. So I ran up to Zanza with Shulk, my health quickly depleting, and finished the game with one art. Monado Buster.
Funny, my party was also Shulk, Riki, and Dunban. Riki's debuffs are so helpful for taking out the minions quickly and Dunban is great as an aggro tank to keep damage off of Shulk and Riki.
Fun fact: if you can defeat Territorial Rotbart, you can defeat the final boss as well. Edit: You can defeat the final boss 2nd form if you can defeat a Telethia in Alcamoth.
I actually fought the Rotbart right before the final boss as a test of my *ungodly rage against that bastard.* Surprisingly enough, the final boss was easier.
As someone who mains riki, I really liked the fact that he was immune to every status effect. It made him feel way more divine, like "welp I'm a god so I can undo every one of your puny status effects".
Zanza: "You dare to challenge a GOD? WHAT makes you think you have the right to do so!?" Shulk: "I rebuild Colony 6 to 100%, unlocked and maxed every goddamn 4th and 5th Skilltree of every Character, maxed out Harmony between all 7 Characters of my party, completed all 480 goddamn quest (yes, even the GODDAMN timed ones!!!) and slayed Dragons that were WAAAY above YOUR puny Level, Zanza! And what are YOUR powers?!"
Always interpreted the metal sounds at 2:15 as symbolizing the fall of the Mechonis trough the hands of Zanza. I‘m not sure if that was the intention behind it but it‘s a small Theory I had for a while now
I was so worried they’d mess up this song when I heard they had new versions of most of the soundtrack. I will never underestimate Xenoblade composers ever again. This is amazing!
@@sergeantslowpoke1550 they kinda had to pick and choose what to remaster given their budget, so they couldn't quite touch up everything(like look at the orlugas they're hideous lmao)
Or they'll just use this song since this is already a remastered version. You can't improve upon perfection. But I don't think we'll be fighting Zanza again. Probably Alvis...
I’ve gotta be honest, I think this is the only JRPG I’ve ever played where when the story pivoted from the human antagonist to fighting a god it didn’t feel forced. The road to Zanza didn’t feel like mediocre content to pad playtime, it felt truly like this was what they were building to the whole time. Probably because Zanza’s entire plan was in your face the entire game you just didn’t have the context to realize it on top of the fact they hid it using a blatantly obvious plot twist with Mumkhar to draw the player’s attention away, which has got to be one of teh most creative moves I’ve seen in a game.
I beat this game for the first time a few days ago. Definitive Edition of course. Seeing Zanza and Shulk square up like that before the guitar kicked in is now one of my favorite moments in all of gaming. And then the piano kicked in... my jaw DROPPED. This game is a Meynethdamn masterpiece, and should not go under the radar for any JRPG fan. The last time I played a JRPG that made me feel like this was when I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time. Oh yeah, go play that too!
I like how you said Meynethdamn instead of goddamn. There is only one goddess that is worth of such a title and she doesn't want to have it anymore on top of that.
@@MC_Danger_Noodle I think Xenogears is a bit too incomplete to hold up against modern Xeno games (I swear half of that dialogue is placeholder and several story arcs were flayed/cut out entirely due to either running out of time or running out of resources,) but it still has a great deal of heart and brilliance and is more than worthy of respect. It could really use a complete overhaul in many ways, though. I'd love to see an in-depth remake that stays true to the original game's story and whatnot to great extent, but isn't afraid to completely redo some scenes, rewrite almost all the dialogue, and extend at least a good chunk of the "sitting on a chair narrating" segments into actual fleshed-out story arcs. Also, maybe brush away some of those controversial lines that don't make sense/don't need to be there/don't get the actual point across, like "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and the lines early on that could easily be mistaken for anti-evolution propaganda to the layman's eye. These moments could both garner a great deal of hate for the game and inadvertently lend credibility to certain misinformation campaigns that plague our era. It would be almost impossible to pull off, no doubt requiring as much time and resources as Xenoblade 2, Torna The Golden Country, and Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition combined, if not more, _but_ a sufficiently thorough and well-done loyal remake (same characters, same plot and plot twists, etc, but rewritten/expanded upon dialogue, streamlined mechanics, overhauled visuals) of Xenogears could be absolute perfection.
And yes, I do realize Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a loose retelling of Xenogears. I still think a more loyal remake of Xenogears would have potential. I'd still rather see Xenoblade 3 right now, though, but hey, maybe when they've finished all the stories they want to tell in the context of Xenoblade, the old favorites (Xenogears, Xenosaga - haven't played the latter yet tho so don't @ me if it doesn't need the level of reworking that Xenogears does) could get the overhauls they deserve.
Shulk: Hey Zanza, who's stronger you, or Avalanch Abbasy? Zanza: The Abbasy was the crown of my creation. It's as strong, no, stronger than I am. Shulk who already beat the Avalanch Abbasy: Is he still alive? Zanza: F***
_"I won't decide. The future should be decided... by each and every person in the world. And so, what I... No, what WE wish for is... a world with no gods!"_ ...I get the feeling that the creation of the Moebius (X, Y & Z) and Aionios (including ~10000 years of suffering in an endless war) was a catastrophic consequence of Shulk's wish for people to choose their future.... and they chose the Endless Now as a result of the colliding universes because they were afraid of the future. Holy shit.
Yknow, it's kinda a shame we don't have this fight as a time attack battle, like mumkhar's. It would be kinda cool to see zanza with a superboss level, and difficulty similar to avalanche abassey
@@OswaldAurelia I saw that on the beach and knew there was probably stronger than I could deal with maybe 10, 20 levels (at the time around upper 40's to early level 50's). NO. as soon as you see it's level it aggroes on you, and never got so scared like when when i aggroed territorial rotbart in xbc2 and saw it's level compared to my measly level 5 or 6. (Xbc2 was my first xeno game). Screaming why such a high level super boss was walking around so soon after pretty minimum story progress, all things considered
The Phantom Well that’s one of the main themes. The power “reserved only for god” actually exists inside of them. They too have the ability to change the world. Alvis/Monado appearing to them embodies this, as he is the closest thing the universe has to a “true god” (he’s modeled after the concept of the Monad from Gnosticism). So if you think about it, they have the power of god and anime on their side
*You're WRONG! Meyneth... chose to exist alongside us. She grew to consider us her friends. You should have excepted that. But... what you were hoping for... was not friendship. You wanted worthless slaves! Our lives as food!*
"Just as I suspected..it appears I was mistaken to grant free will." "However, all will soon be over." "The telethia will exterminate all life on Bionis." "I will then create a new world..just as I have done many times before!"
I too planned to do that, but this song is reused in Future Connected, so since I played that first I technically heard this song in-game allowing me to be here without violating that rule.
it's still something about that initial drop into the guitar and the slow drum build-up and piano hit thats captivates me even nearly ten years after my first time hearing this
This song, and the boss that went with it, made Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition my favorite video game of all time. Edit: Okay, second favorite
This song is so great because it brings everything full circle. Throughout the whole game, you hear vocals like the ones in this song hinting at an ancient power acting as the driving force from the beginning. And now, as the final challenge, you are fighting that power, and that’s represented by the vocals becoming a battle theme.
@@Laenthor I get the opinions on field themes (I love them but I get where people come from) but the battle music is imo the best in the series by a long shot
@@Laenthor it was definitely more atmospheric than 2 and more along the lines of 1, though not quite as memorable. Still, it’s only barely the weakest ost because of how amazing the other ones are lol
Hearing this was my highlight in this remastered. I was so excited when I entered the cutscene. And seeing Zanza in his HD-Bionis Suit while this awesome Metal-Choir Remix played... I struggled a bit in the second phase but after I used the combination of Shulk, Dunban and Riki, it went very well. And on top of that I was able to defeat Zanza with a chain attack where Riki dealt the final blow with "Say Sorry" - Now I have to imagine how he says "Bad Zanza! Bad!" It was probably one of the greatest moments in a video game I ever had - even though I already saw these scenes at least two times at this point. Xenoblade DE is a wonderful addition to the Xeno-Series and a must have for everyone who hasn't witnessed it on the previous consoles.
No OWA it's one of the most iconical musics of games and Sephiroth is the same but for villains Zanza the Divine it's awesome but Zanza it's just a generic evil god and probably only Xenoblade fans know this song
Harold McCarty I was too overleveled the whole time, never got to the end of the song in that battle and I guess I’m glad I did, didn’t want to ruin the immersion
Due to me being awfully ill playing XC1 "The God Slaying Sword" is mostly forgotten on me. But I immediately recall this song, this is powerful enough to tap my memories. God I love XC1.
Pretty much the same situation. I recently finished the main game and the future connected and now I am playing through Torna again before tackling Xenoblade 2 XD
the introduction of the twinkling piano notes following the HARD guitar never fails to send a shiver down my spine. god definitive edition did this song so well
I love the piano in this theme. Even some of the time when its less noticeable then other instruments you can still hear the melody it adds. I think at some points it answers to the chorus too.
Love how this song is powerful and melodic, but it’s not overstated or bombastic or overproduced. No instrument fights another for spotlight. They’re all performing exactly as intended.
I knew Zanza was the bad guy, but I didn't know it was Klaus, I thought it was Arglas. This game threw me for so many fucking loops, like I expected to high hell that Dickson was in on it the whole time, but it STILL blew me out of the water. and Shulk being dead the whole time FUCKED ME UP, the twists and turns are so insane that even though I knew who Zanza was, It STILL felt like a spoiler free playthrough. Speaking of spoilers, dont bitch at me for them, you shouldn't even be here if you didn't finish the fucking game.
“You mere vessels DARE to oppose the will of a god? Then I shall obliterate EVERYTHING with my unimaginable power!” This line line sums up Zanza’s character in such a fantastic manner, it shows how little he thinks of mortal lives while conversely showing how highly he regards himself, never before have I experienced a story that displays the “arrogance of a creator” in such a stunning way.
Dunban himself comments on that. He even mentions that Zanza was trapped by mere High Entia on Prison Island, and Zanza bluffs, saying "I was merely... RESTING there, for a while..." This game is perfect!!
It's so funny too, he can't live up to his own hype and he knows it but he keeps using bluster and shows of violence to try to convince you as well as himself. Makes for a great and megamaniacal villain.
I love that one part where he's overwhelming meyneth and he almost seems giddy with how powerful he perceives himself. "And who decides that?! A God! :D"
@@Tonjit41 Yeah, but there he was also mocking Meyneth's claiming that Zanza has no right to call himself a god, which is funny, because the only people with enough authority to declare the rights of a god are gods themselves, which both of them were lmao So Meyneth's line there was either hypocritical or non-sensical if you think about it.
Headcanon: the choir and piano is Zanza's divine belief in his superiority while the electric guitar and drum bass is Shulk's personal grudge against Zanza seeping through the theme having been his vessel for the entire game
Best boss theme. I saw this from the comments on the old version yeeeears ago but they were totally right - guitar = power vocals = holiness piano = chaos I love it!
Man I really need to replay this game. I couldn’t never forget the stress and the weight of fighting Zanza in this final battle. Truly a beautiful game
Eh, Xenoblade 2 does character development and environments way better, in my opinion (well, newer console, duh). Also, I think the music is just a TAD better than Xenoblade 1. I cried more times than I can count during Xenoblade 2 from the music alone. But in terms of game design, XC1 is superior. The gacha system in 2 is infuriating. Hopefully I can get Elektra and Ursula once I get to NG+. Those precious little cinnamon rolls were huge reasons I got the game it the first place. :-( Also, Dalia's quest was so frustrating until I found the totally out-of-the-way ice bridge spot in a moment that made me feel incredibly stupid since I'm one to explore literally every nook and cranny.
The fact that the World Tree falls and Pneuma has to sacrifice herself, is not because Rex defeated Malos, but because Shulk defeated Zanza in another dimension is food for thought, and definitely fits the Xenoblade 2's overarching theme of forgiveness, letting go, and most relevantly, of not blaming yourself for things that aren't your fault :(
![Engage the Enemy - Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition OST [009] [DE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GTCB79fDUOY/mqdefault.jpg)
Listen to the Original version of this track here: th-cam.com/video/siapjypdpGg/w-d-xo.html
With its inferior synthetic instruments?
I think every song involving guitars in this game got a huge upgrade tbh.
@Jonah Laining How can anybody say the original time to fight is better than the new one?
Only way to truly appreciate how much better this version is is by listening to the original at least once
I will be honest, if that track had made it into smash bros, then it would be both original and this variation. Love them both, even if I prefer the newer one a little bit more.
@@TheRegulus01 ye they kinda cleaned up some parts of the song, a few seconds of the original one felt a bit messy.
First Boss: Crab
Last Boss: God
That's a JRPG for ya!
Super boss: squirrel
also true for xc2 lol (assuming you count the aegises as gods)
@@kenout
First Boss:Shrimp
Last Boss:Giant robot-driving sword
Yeah they are basically the same
@@kenout damn nice spOiLeR
Monolith: You wanna see me make a banger final boss theme?
Monolith: …You wanna see me do it again?
Monolith want me to do it a 5th time?
@@KeyToAeris2024 6th. It may not be from a numbered entry, but The Key We Lost from X is too good for forget, and in my opinion stands alongside the other Xenoblade final boss themes.
@@raddreokami6892 agree, it sounds diferent cause hiroyuki sawano composed for xcx, but yes, the key we've lost is so freaking good
X has a soundtrack just as good as the other games in the series, and I will die on that hill.
@@thecodeNeko_Too bad the game isn't as accessible as the others
Beginning of the game: give sandwich to your future husband
End of the game: *kill god*
That's a JRPG for you.
Xenoblade is actually just an ATLUS game.
@@SeriousStriker persona fans when they find out that other jrpgs exist
@@falafelbil455 I played Xenoblade before Persona though.
@@SeriousStriker i was just memeing off of your meme
First part of the game: Okay the enemy is Metal Face
Second part of the game: Okay the enemy is Egil
Third part of the game: what
"Oh, I'm not the bad guy. HE'S the bad guy."
"Nah man, I ain't evil. HE'S the bad guy."
"Ah, I was just messin' with ye. HE'S the bad guy."
"Me???"
"No. It's me...GOD. {Shulk attacks} Ahhh you killed me! And you...destroyed racism? Guhhhhh..."
@@MrAuthor3DS from xenoblade in 50 seconds. You memorized this part you legend
The amount of plot twists this game has is incredible. Love it.
Trust absolutely no one. Not even yourself
@@jaircontreras468 Absolutely. You could be dead and not even know it
Zanza: "How?! How can you have visions?!! You no longer wield the Monado!!!"
Alvis: *gentlemanly chuckling*
I am Monado.
I was here in the beginning.
And I will proclaim the end.
Alvis: *BITCH*
@@TimBagels lmaoo
Alvis: *Gentlemanly chuckle*
You mean the *MONADO THREE!?*
@@slobertooth1358 You mean the Administritive Computer of a Phase Transition Research Facility
Fun fact: you are either extremely op or incredibly unprepared when you first hear this music
Or youre thinking, maybe casual mode isnt that bad of an idea
@@lero9900 underated comment
Shame it’s impossible to achive the middle ground
Not if you have Expert Mode
Yes had to Go back in the save 4 times before reach a good level
In ng+ you can change the skin of Shulk’s sword, meaning you can have the true ultimate weapon, the junk sword.
The monado IV
Shulk’s Junk Sword is the one true Monado, instrument of destruction and rebirth.
...wat
*YES!!!!*
Or you can bust out the monado 3 on the true villain of the game, that one crab under a mechon
The best thing is that Zanza, much like a lot of Xenoblade, is a subversion of JRPG tropes. You aren't fighting captital-G-God SMT-style, you're fighting a power drunk scumbag who used some machine so he can play god with people's lives who he literally considers lesser than bacteria; much like a kid torching ants with a magnifying glass. Which just about instantly makes you hate his guts.
I loved this subversion in the second game too, where you've been hearing about this divine figure (the Architect) during the whole game, just find he's nothing more than an old man full of regrets with no power whatsoever. He failed on his quest to become god and had to live with the consequences of his actions, while his other half saw the experiment as a success and became drunk with power.
@@gonzoss3998 The Architect is literally commanded under God.
That's literally what every jrpg final boss does lol, they're all kinda pathetic character wise
Wouldn't call this a subversion at all, most JRPGs that have you "kill God" usually don't have you fighting that world's true creator. They are more often than not another god that usurped the title or a mortal who found a cool rock to get godlike powers.
@@justice8718 Well... The origin of conduit might be something even higher..... A being beyond our understanding...
Something like, an japanese called Tetsuya Takahashi
I genuinely love the idea of Alvis watching these battles and laughing his ass off while Klaus has it open on a second monitor also laughing his ass off
Meyneth shaking her head disappointingly after finding Zanza at his computer still even after she grounded him for a week.
**Spoilers for 1 and 2**
Do you guys reckon Klaus, as the Architect and Alvis might have been able to talk to each other. Since Alvis seemed to be nearly as much a God as Zanza and in the end of Xenoblade 2 we hear Shulk's final line when striking down Zanza
@The Phantom i mean i made it pretty obvious i think but I'll do it i guess
@The Phantom You shouldn't be reading the comment section or even listen to this soundtrack if you haven't played the game and don't want to get spoiled.
I like to imagine the post fight cutscene where Alvis starts talking is literally just him using the mic on some random gaming headset.
That moment when you realize that Shulk's self-destructive workaholic mentality that he put towards researching the Monado was the influence of Zanza and could have very well led to him becoming completely consumed by his own curiosity in what he didn't know were the affairs of the gods-exactly like Egil. Shulk’s friends were literally the only thing that saved him, which I feel ties in greatly with them helping to create the Monado 3.
What an amazing game this is.
Turns out, Dickson always encouraging him to work himself all the time fits this perfectly
Even Reyn, who is part of the militia, follows those orders, albeit more lenient.
But Fiora, Naw she drags him out of his hobbit hole again and again despite being told to stop.
Exactly! Egil is a dark reflection of Shulk -- the person Shulk would have become if he hadn't turned away from his path of vengeance.
@@ultrakleptomania I disagree. At the beginning of the game Dickson was encouraging Shulk to take a break from studying the Monado, which in my opinion is further evidence that Dickson really did care about Shulk at least somewhat.
And a reflection of Zanza himself. Under all of the hubris, all of the madness, was a man afraid to let go
Xenoblade has a habit of juxtaposing its main protagonists and anti-heroes like that. Shulk and Egil, Rex and Malos/Amalthus, Pyre/Mythra and Jin, Nia and Akhos...
GUYS THATS WHY IT PLAYS AGAINST THE FOG KING THEY WERE COOKING THIS UP FROM THE VERY START
STOP THATS SO BIG BRAIN
I never doubted monolith for a SECOND
oh my fucking god you’re so right
Can someone fill me in lol
@@brianv9242 idk if you've played it or if it's just been a while but against the final boss in xc future connected, the theme of the final boss from the main game plays in the first phase
*I WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE AS A HOMS IN A WORLD WITHOUT JUJU!*
FUCK JUJU
He’s not bad, he’s just a kid.
Zanza is thousands of years old, yet he can’t understand anything about life. He’s the one we should direct our rage at.
@@maxrichards3881 That was a joke because in deleted Xenoblade music videos of BrawlBRSTMs3 X deleted channel (RIP) were a lot of Juju jokes lol
@@maxrichards3881 it just a joke ;-;
Long live the Jujonis!
Every character was more alive with facial expressions but the crazy eyes they gave Zanza were probably the most noticeable, dude looked legit insane and it was great
"And you speak of living alongside me?!"
Also shows how sane Klaus was in comparison despite the fact he was mentally broken.
hold on, Zanza looked better or worse in the og
because he had the crazy looking eyes in the original compared to DE where he looked a lot worse imo
He has so much white in his eyes it’s creepy
@@conorneligan7694 OP is saying DE Zanza is better than og and I agree. He feels much more crazy in DE with proper expressions and not a .png looking face.
Zanza: "YOU MEER VESSEL DARE TO OPPOSE THE WILL OF A GOD"
Me who is lv99, done all the sidequests, killed most unique monsters, maxed affinity, maxed skill tree, all advanced art books, great gear with maxed lv 6 gems: *yeah, and?*
Facts get your lvl ???? ass outta here
IEienI
Level 81, he’s too ashamed to show that he’s lower than his own telethia in Alcamoth.
@@maxrichards3881 😂😂 pretty much for some reason I thought he was 90 because I got bodied at lvl 78 the first time I played I forgot he was ????
reyn one shots with sword drive
@@Anthem34 I haven't tried offense Rayn
I love the fact that the visions don’t stop this masterpiece
Saaaame
Actually I'm pretty sure that the song auto-loops after every time shulk says "the future... doesn't belong to you!"
The other songs didn't get the memo
That is due to the fact that this song is an event track. “Visions of the Future” only interrupts field tracks, which is the category that the usual battle songs belong to.
@@yashk3904 pretty sure "an obstacle in our path" isn't a feild track
Why is this highkey one of the best final boss themes ever made
For sure but one winged angel is still top dog
Because Xenoblade
Because it is
Because this was originally a swan song and a rpg that was supposed kill monolith. They figured that they go out with a bang
Because the future
"Only the Divine may shape the future!"
"OOAUGH!"
"Mine is the one true Monado! Instrument of Destruction and Rebirth!"
"Ugh!"
"OOAUGH!"
"Ugh!"
"Ugh!"
"Did you...? No! How can you still have visions!?"
"OOAUGH!"
"This is the power of a god!"
"OOAUGH!"
"Ugh!"
"OOAUGH!"
"OOAUGH!"
"OOAUGH!"
The future doesn´t belong to you!
MINE IS THE ONE TRUE MONADO. INSTRUMENT OF DESTRUCTION AND RECREATION
OOOAUGH
THE FUTURE... DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU!
YOU ARE ALL DOOMED!
"You cannot stand against a god!"
The fact that I can hear the "OOAUGH" so vividly in my mind is worrying
"How?! How can you still have visions?!"
I laughed at this, because I was so OP that I killed him without ever getting one.
signature look of superiority
"How?! How can you still have visions?!"
"I'm not." How cold would that line be goddamn
@@rtiq270 I want that now.
@@snivelill4457 Hey buddy :P
@@epicglamorousscout4088 Buddy ol' chum.
"HoW cAn YoU StIlL hAvE ViSiOnS?!?!"
*Haha monado go brr*
NOOOO you can’t just use visions you don’t have he monadoooo
Haha future go brrrr
You fuckers...
I can't take it seriously now
Haha Alvis go brr
That moment when ur lvl 99 and dont have any visions and ur like "dude i dont have any"
"The future, doesn't belong to you" intensifies
A corpse
A robot corpse
A soldier
A medic
A general
A guy in debt
A queen
Fight god and win
Robots that eat humans
Dunban is a general?
_Never mess with someone who's in debt, they WILL lock tf in._
And a nopon at that, lookin straight at XC2 in particular..
@@danielnasby7695 His starter outfit is called General.
Shulk on Metal Face be like: "I hate him, for what he did to the emperor and Fiora... But now I know there are people inside. I have to find out why! Would you even be willing to kill another homs?"
Shulk on Egil be like: "If you raise your sword, then I will stop you. Again and again until we can finally understand eachother."
Shulk on Zanza be like: "Fuck off! Nobody in this world wants you here! We're better off without you, so just stop existing!"
Zanza killed Shulk's family, stole his body, driven him on a quest that hurt so many, was the cause of *everything* in this game thanks to his unprovoked attack on Mechonis...
Yeah, I'd be a little pissed.
"I don't wanna be your vessel or your disciple. I just want to live my life as a Homs, in a world without you!"
Even after Shulk spared his life, Mumkhar still tried to kill them. I would have just let Dunban end him, especially considering he was going to die anyway. The guy was a sociopath.
@TheOriginalAcer let's not forget he was forced into killing the man who raised him as well. Despite all the other enemies Shulk had to either put down or talked down, the fight with Dickson hurt him the most. So he is understandably livid about that in particular. If only zanza didn't exist, he wouldn't have had to go through that.
@@ShadowSkyX
Metal Face: sadistic psychopath or not, he was still human. Even if said person deserves it, some folks can't bring themselves to take the life of another person.
Egil: Yes, carried out the war between the Mechon and the Homs as well as stuck all the Homs that the Mechon had abducted into Face suits, but he feels that he has no choice and, much like Shulk, was driven by a lust for revenge, and vengeance tends to be a neverending cycle
Zanza: He wasn't crazy, he wasn't driven by revenge, he just wanted absolute control over the world, and it was his actions that allowed the horrid events to take place.
Does anyone else think it's cool that Zanza's name starts with the last letter of the alphabet and ends with the first? Kinda fits with his whole plan of destruction and recreation (he's the end and the new beginning).
Believe it or not, I think his name was kind of a mistranslation. It was supposed to be Xanthe, but I guess translation error happened or something and we got Zanza
Could also be a callback to Xenogears opening.
@@loganrussell3064 No, it wasn't a mistranslation, the name was intended to be Zanza from the beginning. The name is a reference to the "Alpha and Omega", the beginning and the end, because Zanza thinks he's the true creator of the world (of course he's wrong).
This symbology was used previously in Xenogears.
There's further symbolism of this with the fact he wants to keep a perpetual cycle of rebirth and destruction, and this is shown with the Monado 1 and 2 being in the shape of a musical note, as well as his wings and minions having music sheet symbolism, on top of those minions having LITERAL TREBLE CLEFFS for monados.
You could say that he wanted to repeat the same song and dance.
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The theming of names also comes into play with Arglas, where he was the start of Zanza's release, and halfway through the story, he dies, as symbolized by the S being about halfway through the alphabet. This theming comes into further play if you take the note about Arglas dying halfway through with S and realize it was being used to symbolize Shulk becoming the new Zanza Host as soon as Arglas died, with Shulk's name starting with an S.
@@PeriviYohanesburgo Incidentally, Zanza's name is spelled similarly to some of the names given to African tongued instruments, most commonly known as kalimbas.
Even after 10 years, this song still is a masterpiece.
Best ost of xc
but music doesn’t age... at least non-commercial music that isn’t pop
Oh my god, has it really been that long?
@ShadowDragon956 I already did. The backwards lyrics are really interesting.
@ShadowDragon956 and it's quite risky reversing songs since they always sound either really good or really bad.
Shulk: No you can’t just create a new world and disregard everyone’s existence!
Zanza: haha guitar go neer neer
Why does Zanza bother killing the peoples of Bionis?
Because if they’re alive, they’ll survive the universal reset. His powers are limited by Ontos’s providence.
@Max Richards so it’s like Made in Heaven
ᴊ ᴇ s ᴛ ɪ ɴ
What’s that?
@Max Richards A JoJo reference
I really feel like making this meme
Zanza: "THIS IS THE POWER OF A GOD!"
Shulk with Monado Shield: 1 Damage.
Despite not being the strongest enemy in the game, Zanza has collectively, the most Health of any enemy at 1,150,000 HP. When in his original form at Mechonis Core, he has 750,000.
Yeah, counting all three phases Zanza has more than the Avalanche Abaasy. Both of them have the same resistances to Topple locking too. That said, the superbosses are still harder because they're always red level.
@@SeriousStriker And Abaasy has Insta death Spike while Zanza has 0 Spike
Abaasy also i think had higher attack power despite the lack of HP
And his health depletes in a quarter less than 5 minutes.
Damn, Meyneth's Monado is quite strong.
This is the nature of J/RPGs though, the final story boss is the weakest end game boss xD Which always bothered me with many games, this was one of them.
@@jumpartist97 Star Ocean 2 'special end' end-boss would like a word with you. (One of the greatest bosses in any RPG because of this reason.)
"I shall wipe you from this world and bring forth its demise!"
"You are all doomed!"
"This is the power of a god!"
"Behold, supreme power!"
"You cannot stand against a god!"
"Mine is the one true Monado! Instrument of destruction and rebirth!"
"No! How can you still have visions?"
You forgot “AUUUGHHHHHHH”
Keelami
Also, I cannot...
no, I WILL NOT LET YOU LIVE!
I don’t know how many time i heard “nOoOo! HoW cAn YoU sTiLl HaVe ViSiOnS?”
you forgot "I release upon you the deadly sin of... wait, wrong game
Bird Jesus wrong god lol
"I just want to live my life as a homs, in a world without lemons!"
"That is most edible..you could have entrusted all to me and attained pizza"
my only question: Why didnt shulk wish for a world without pineapples if that were the case?
Imakuni_BoomAtack
Because then we wouldn't have Riki's pineapple costume
@@zaxtonhong3958 Thats a durian, not a pineapple. Why? Because you can kick them.
@@drakath5727 I know this is an old comment, but was that a flipping Super Mario Sunshine reference?
@@Yorgivgm9618 Goes without saying.
My name is Klaus... But everybody calls me *Z A N Z A*
Zanza Klaus 🎅🏼
@@yuriridley8144 I don’t know if I hate you or if you have made one of the best comments I have ever read
@@yuriridley8144 Zanza Klaus is coming to town
Finally, I keep trying to remind people that Zanza was a good guy till Klaus took over. Friends with both Meyneth and Egil.
The future.... doesn't belong to you!
*How? How can you still have visions? You no longer posses the Monado!*
I don’t know...it comes from the bottom of my heart. It shows me my enemy. It shows me the future I must change.
@@PhazonKing Haa! Manado PURGE!
Zanza: but that's...
*Looks at Alvis* WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?
My favorite quote from Shulk
I felt so much power every time Shulk said this, it never gets old :)
Story spoilers.
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I accidentally spoiled to myself that Zanza was going to be the final boss and main antagonist of the game. But I thought it was gonna be the Giant that was sealed on Prison Island. It turned out that wasn't Zanza at all, but rather a giant named Arglas being controlled by Zanza. I was not expecting Zanza to be a God and the soul of the Bionis incarnate. I wasn't expecting the Bionis to end up as the bad guy and the Mechonis just wanting to live in peace. Even when I thought I had spoiled myself, Xenoblade had so many plot twists that still managed to blindside me every step of the way.
Goddamn I love this game.
Lol I ran into the same exact situation and finished the game today. My mind has been struck by a tactical nuke.
@Manu Amadi
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I had actually beaten XC2 before playing through XCDE, so as soon as I saw the space station I started freaking out a bit lol.
I also thought that them changing Alvis' key necklace to a core crystal in DE was just a cheeky little easter egg, like Malos wielding a Monado.
Nah lol it's all connected. Alvis is Ontos, and each of the Trinity Processor's core crystals manifest as a Monado.
This is exactly what happened to me back when I played the Wii version. I loved the music so I was just listening to the ost and I noticed this song was the final boss theme, so I knew Zanza was going to be the final boss. But I never would’ve imagined Dickson turning on you, the High Entia turning into Telethia, etc. this game is phenomenal
I didn’t look up any spoilers before playing this game (I never played the original, as I was too young), and let me tell you, I was THROWN into a ride with this game‘s story. I laughed, I cried, but I mostly said “WHAT IS GOING ON.” I absolutely loved it, and I’m really sad that my first experience with the game is over.😅
I just wished they gave some sort of foreshadowing of Zanza like Shulk meeting him in person or Zanza swinging by to save his ass once. It really felt like Zenza(blonde) came out of nowhere. It was more of a Shit ton of information instead of a "ooohhh shit why didnt i realize it sooner" twist. Those are the best kinds of twists not the "wtf is going on twist"
Let me tell you the amazing way I beat the game. In the final phase, Zanza, only like 10% hp left, summoned minions. I tried to kill them to get back to Zanza, however, the minions took down Dunban with the help of Zanza, and did the same to Riki. I just used a chain attack, but it was so small it didn’t fill up a party gauge. I was then alone, and realized it was all or nothing. So I ran up to Zanza with Shulk, my health quickly depleting, and finished the game with one art.
Monado Buster.
My party was Shulk, Reyn, Fiora. We flew through the battle, me getting pissed because he kept going into new phases that weren't much stronger
I now realise this was because I was in Casual Mode
I beat the game in the best way possible: With the beast.
I also beat it with Buster
Funny, my party was also Shulk, Riki, and Dunban. Riki's debuffs are so helpful for taking out the minions quickly and Dunban is great as an aggro tank to keep damage off of Shulk and Riki.
Fun fact: if you can defeat Territorial Rotbart, you can defeat the final boss as well.
Edit: You can defeat the final boss 2nd form if you can defeat a Telethia in Alcamoth.
That’s Xenoblade 2. He’s in that game too.
It’s true! I used territorial rotbart to grind for the final boss
Wait he has a point
I actually fought the Rotbart right before the final boss as a test of my *ungodly rage against that bastard.* Surprisingly enough, the final boss was easier.
Manu Amadi Wait what? But Rotbart and Zanza are the same level: 81.
Shulk earning the title Godcleaver.
Godcleaver is such a fitting and cathartic title for Shulk.
Wouldn't this comment fit better under "The God Slaying Sword"?
@@seant1326 you wouldn’t be wrong
My jaw dropped when the guitar started
My first reaction back then was being shocked by the guitar and then when the *vocals* showed up I ascended.
Fr i started bopping my head a little
Same
Well, we didn't end up hearing this again.
We got something better than that.
It's amazing how we got something better than that. God that boss theme just blows my mind
Welcome back to the beginning after listening to the end
Finally a song that wasn’t interrupted by a Vison
who let Alvis cook in XC3
shulk
Shulk when he wants a world without gods
*Future Redeemed Spoilers*
Dude cooked so hard the oven blew up, splitting Alvis into 2 separate people
_zanza was pissy after being killed. Again_
Klaus
As someone who mains riki, I really liked the fact that he was immune to every status effect. It made him feel way more divine, like "welp I'm a god so I can undo every one of your puny status effects".
I didn’t noticed even though Riki was in my party while fighting Zanza. I was too busy feeling the music while doing massive damage as offensive Reyn.
Melia’s status effects work tho…at least summon earth/poison. It was only way I won cuz it destroyed him 💀
God is vaccinated. Who knew.
Thought the comment was talking about Riki himself.
Riki is still a god though.
Zanza: "You dare to challenge a GOD? WHAT makes you think you have the right to do so!?"
Shulk: "I rebuild Colony 6 to 100%, unlocked and maxed every goddamn 4th and 5th Skilltree of every Character, maxed out Harmony between all 7 Characters of my party, completed all 480 goddamn quest (yes, even the GODDAMN timed ones!!!) and slayed Dragons that were WAAAY above YOUR puny Level, Zanza!
And what are YOUR powers?!"
Meanwhile in a parallel universe,
"Think you can take me?"
in this universe it’s
*you will pay for your insolence*
@@v4le69 in both its _YOU WILL TASTE DESPAIR_
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 _YOU WILL TASTE _*_DIS PEAR_*
@@arek.k8688 Like Narcipear Jelly?
I'll put that into the pouch then, thank you very much.
Always interpreted the metal sounds at 2:15 as symbolizing the fall of the Mechonis trough the hands of Zanza.
I‘m not sure if that was the intention behind it but it‘s a small Theory I had for a while now
ALVIS THE DIVINE
All these years later, and this song is still a whole-ass bop.
rella rella rella
I was so worried they’d mess up this song when I heard they had new versions of most of the soundtrack. I will never underestimate Xenoblade composers ever again. This is amazing!
I’m sad they didn’t remaster thoughts enshrined :(
@@sergeantslowpoke1550 They didn't see a need for it.
@@sergeantslowpoke1550 they kinda had to pick and choose what to remaster given their budget, so they couldn't quite touch up everything(like look at the orlugas they're hideous lmao)
@@toothpastecreature To be fair, Orlugas are supposed to be hideous.
@@LittleAl016 Yeah, but you can clearly see they're still kinda low-poly(another example of this is the High Entia guards)
Everyone coming back to this song after listening to Alpha the Divine End
They better remix this in the XC3 DLC
Or they'll just use this song since this is already a remastered version. You can't improve upon perfection. But I don't think we'll be fighting Zanza again. Probably Alvis...
And they did
And then alvis was like: bitch stole _my_ theme so I had shulk take his life! The nerve
This is peak fiction once more.
I’ve gotta be honest, I think this is the only JRPG I’ve ever played where when the story pivoted from the human antagonist to fighting a god it didn’t feel forced. The road to Zanza didn’t feel like mediocre content to pad playtime, it felt truly like this was what they were building to the whole time. Probably because Zanza’s entire plan was in your face the entire game you just didn’t have the context to realize it on top of the fact they hid it using a blatantly obvious plot twist with Mumkhar to draw the player’s attention away, which has got to be one of teh most creative moves I’ve seen in a game.
May I also recommend Sea of Stars and the TWEWY series?
I beat this game for the first time a few days ago. Definitive Edition of course. Seeing Zanza and Shulk square up like that before the guitar kicked in is now one of my favorite moments in all of gaming. And then the piano kicked in... my jaw DROPPED. This game is a Meynethdamn masterpiece, and should not go under the radar for any JRPG fan. The last time I played a JRPG that made me feel like this was when I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time. Oh yeah, go play that too!
both fantastic games. i reccomend xenogears too. imo best story ever told in a game.
I like how you said Meynethdamn instead of goddamn. There is only one goddess that is worth of such a title and she doesn't want to have it anymore on top of that.
Zanza is very similar to Yggdrasil/Mithos. This comparison becomes even more apt in Xenoblade 2.
@@MC_Danger_Noodle I think Xenogears is a bit too incomplete to hold up against modern Xeno games (I swear half of that dialogue is placeholder and several story arcs were flayed/cut out entirely due to either running out of time or running out of resources,) but it still has a great deal of heart and brilliance and is more than worthy of respect. It could really use a complete overhaul in many ways, though.
I'd love to see an in-depth remake that stays true to the original game's story and whatnot to great extent, but isn't afraid to completely redo some scenes, rewrite almost all the dialogue, and extend at least a good chunk of the "sitting on a chair narrating" segments into actual fleshed-out story arcs. Also, maybe brush away some of those controversial lines that don't make sense/don't need to be there/don't get the actual point across, like "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and the lines early on that could easily be mistaken for anti-evolution propaganda to the layman's eye. These moments could both garner a great deal of hate for the game and inadvertently lend credibility to certain misinformation campaigns that plague our era.
It would be almost impossible to pull off, no doubt requiring as much time and resources as Xenoblade 2, Torna The Golden Country, and Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition combined, if not more, _but_ a sufficiently thorough and well-done loyal remake (same characters, same plot and plot twists, etc, but rewritten/expanded upon dialogue, streamlined mechanics, overhauled visuals) of Xenogears could be absolute perfection.
And yes, I do realize Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a loose retelling of Xenogears. I still think a more loyal remake of Xenogears would have potential. I'd still rather see Xenoblade 3 right now, though, but hey, maybe when they've finished all the stories they want to tell in the context of Xenoblade, the old favorites (Xenogears, Xenosaga - haven't played the latter yet tho so don't @ me if it doesn't need the level of reworking that Xenogears does) could get the overhauls they deserve.
Zanza: I am the true ultimate being.
Level 99 Riki with a dead fish: Hahaha Riki Sneaky
I always hear it as "Riki stinky"
Shulk: Hey Zanza, who's stronger you, or Avalanch Abbasy?
Zanza: The Abbasy was the crown of my creation. It's as strong, no, stronger than I am.
Shulk who already beat the Avalanch Abbasy: Is he still alive?
Zanza: F***
When a spider in Tephra cave is more powerful than god
@@JCsmooth_ When a tiny squirrel in the marsh is stronger than god
@@boopergoober I bet he'd be punished by the biggest Mechon at the beach.
@@ramahermawan4598 Local god gets 360 no-scoped from across the beach by a giant mechon
Zanza, why are you weaker than a rabbit?
Me after the direct: "aww shit here we go again"
“Does this world belong to Zanza, or does it belong to me?”
Can't believe Alvis just decided to become Zanza.
We don't know the full context yet. Don't let us down, Monolithsoft!
pretty sure Alvis was the mastermind behind everything
_"I won't decide. The future should be decided... by each and every person in the world. And so, what I... No, what WE wish for is... a world with no gods!"_
...I get the feeling that the creation of the Moebius (X, Y & Z) and Aionios (including ~10000 years of suffering in an endless war) was a catastrophic consequence of Shulk's wish for people to choose their future.... and they chose the Endless Now as a result of the colliding universes because they were afraid of the future. Holy shit.
The price of freedom... Is steep.
Damn so a “be careful what you wish for” type situation
@@Averi0 “Embrace your dreams…and…whatever happens…protect your honor…AS SOLDIER! COME AND GET IT!”
@@CaribbeanOlympian man I’m just imagining a Shulk/Rex final stand, sounds raw af tbh
@@windy4566 Papa Shulk, Papa Rex, and Papa Noah pullin’ up with their kids to kill god *again* in the Xenoblade 3 DLC. IT’S LIT.
Yknow, it's kinda a shame we don't have this fight as a time attack battle, like mumkhar's. It would be kinda cool to see zanza with a superboss level, and difficulty similar to avalanche abassey
I would have preferred it if it was harder avalanche embassy. I mean, he's a fucking god
Who would win?
~Literal God ~Some weird
robot lounging (yes this is on the beach
about the
mechon
superboss)
@@OswaldAurelia I saw that on the beach and knew there was probably stronger than I could deal with maybe 10, 20 levels (at the time around upper 40's to early level 50's).
NO.
as soon as you see it's level it aggroes on you, and never got so scared like when when i aggroed territorial rotbart in xbc2 and saw it's level compared to my measly level 5 or 6. (Xbc2 was my first xeno game). Screaming why such a high level super boss was walking around so soon after pretty minimum story progress, all things considered
That would've been hell'a awesome.
Something like this, maybe?
Objective: Weaken Zanza and destroy him before he erases all of existence!
"You mere vessels dare to oppose the will of a god?!"
"Then I shall obliterate everything with my unimaginable power!!!!"
**joins his two Monados to add Telethia body to his legs*
"Behold, the true form of the united world!"
@@ramahermawan4598 Don't forget the bionis and mechonis arm's, that's the best part.
The Phantom Well that’s one of the main themes. The power “reserved only for god” actually exists inside of them. They too have the ability to change the world. Alvis/Monado appearing to them embodies this, as he is the closest thing the universe has to a “true god” (he’s modeled after the concept of the Monad from Gnosticism).
So if you think about it, they have the power of god and anime on their side
Yes.
A god should not long for friendship...
*You're WRONG! Meyneth... chose to exist alongside us. She grew to consider us her friends. You should have excepted that. But... what you were hoping for... was not friendship. You wanted worthless slaves! Our lives as food!*
"Just as I suspected..it appears I was mistaken to grant free will." "However, all will soon be over." "The telethia will exterminate all life on Bionis." "I will then create a new world..just as I have done many times before!"
@@neopolitan2826 *We will not allow it. We can not! We WILL stop you!!!*
And CUT! Good show everyone! Got it on first take!
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Shulk: "The future doesn't belong to Zanza!"
Fog King: "This song neither".
Just beat the game, purposefully resisted myself from listening to the remix beforehand and it delivered I’m so glad I waited
I said I was going to hold off on listening to this but I couldn't help myself.
I too planned to do that, but this song is reused in Future Connected, so since I played that first I technically heard this song in-game allowing me to be here without violating that rule.
You're a king because I instantly yielded the second someone sent Mechanical Rhythm to me.
I couldn't wait, I wish I could erase this masterpiece so to experience first time in that battle
Same. Ain't that the truth.
It’s Alvis time 👀
VECTOR INDUSTRIES LOGO ON THE RADIO, DEMETRI YURIV, PROJECT EXEDOUS AND THE PHILIDELPHIA CLASS SHIPS AKA ELDRIDGE. MIND FUCK.
MAN THE VIOLINS AT 1:43 ARE ABSOLUTE FIRE
Shout out to Riki and Sharla for carrying my unprepared ass through this fight 🙏
“The future...doesn’t belong to you!”
1:21 that drumwork though...
After Zanza, now we got Alpha to rock us with soundtrack of Divine.
Alvis the divine soon
Electric Guitars are the single greatest instrument on planet earth.
You can make anything sound good with an electric guitar. It's just a fact!
Imagine this playing in Alvis' boss fight in Xenoblade Chronicles 3's story DLC.
Better yet, imagine a Moebius inspired remix if Alvis is indeed Consul A.
@@britishguy54dx Well, there _is_ an Alvis(?), and she _is_ called A...
😅about that...
@@rarebear7788 My comment is officially outdated.
@@Big-Image I mean it gives off the same vibe as this so not totally off the mark
_”A god, should not long for steak.”_
I do not regret putting off listening to this rearrangement until I got to Zanza in Definitive Edition. Totally worth it.
it's still something about that initial drop into the guitar and the slow drum build-up and piano hit thats captivates me even nearly ten years after my first time hearing this
IT WAS NEVER ZANZA'S THEME IT WAS HIM ALL ALONG OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I know what you mean but of course it's Zanza's theme, just as in the theme of the so called Zanza's world.
Could you wait for the actual DLC to release?
no harm in speculation
@Oracle well no...but yez there is when you're making leaps and bounds before knowing all the facts.....it's still zanzas theme....
what do you think speculation means
This song, and the boss that went with it, made Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition my favorite video game of all time.
Edit: Okay, second favorite
Play Tales of the Abyss
The 2nd one is my favorite Me cry😢 The game made me cry
It’s definitely one of my favorites as well. Probably number 4 for me. Maybe 3
Definitely fourth for me. But the story is my favorite of all time
@@ramsesjfg7668 Tales of the Abyss is fucking awful, i don't know what are you trying to say
This song is so great because it brings everything full circle. Throughout the whole game, you hear vocals like the ones in this song hinting at an ancient power acting as the driving force from the beginning. And now, as the final challenge, you are fighting that power, and that’s represented by the vocals becoming a battle theme.
Cannot wait to hear Xenoblade 3's final boss music~
Doesn't top this. I like the "enemies of the world" leitmotif but XC3's soundtrack lacks the energy of XC2 and the memorable melodies from XC1.
It’s good but it doesn’t get amazing until the guitar kicks in on the second phase. That slaps, but zanza the divine is amazing start to end
@@Laenthor I get the opinions on field themes (I love them but I get where people come from) but the battle music is imo the best in the series by a long shot
@@brycecartwright2403 I never got tired of the chain attack theme so that's saying something. Just wish some areas had bops like mor ardain.
@@Laenthor it was definitely more atmospheric than 2 and more along the lines of 1, though not quite as memorable. Still, it’s only barely the weakest ost because of how amazing the other ones are lol
Hearing this was my highlight in this remastered. I was so excited when I entered the cutscene. And seeing Zanza in his HD-Bionis Suit while this awesome Metal-Choir Remix played... I struggled a bit in the second phase but after I used the combination of Shulk, Dunban and Riki, it went very well. And on top of that I was able to defeat Zanza with a chain attack where Riki dealt the final blow with "Say Sorry" - Now I have to imagine how he says "Bad Zanza! Bad!"
It was probably one of the greatest moments in a video game I ever had - even though I already saw these scenes at least two times at this point. Xenoblade DE is a wonderful addition to the Xeno-Series and a must have for everyone who hasn't witnessed it on the previous consoles.
Alvis the Divine soon
0:50 The piano part here is always so rad xD
The one winged angel of Xenoblade
Nah that would be Jin's theme
@@lolekbolek916 hell no💀
No
OWA it's one of the most iconical musics of games and Sephiroth is the same but for villains
Zanza the Divine it's awesome but Zanza it's just a generic evil god and probably only Xenoblade fans know this song
@@onewingedren2228 just because it's not as well known, doesn't mean it isn't as good
@@onewingedren2228 why does it matter if it’s well known or not
It’s still a great song
Also they said the One winged angel OF Xenoblade
Still my favourite final boss track in a xenoblade game. The song makes you feel that you’re defying the will of god
Yeah this slaps in that ONE moment in Future Connected
and the one time in FC with unfinished battle was epic as well
Harold McCarty oh rip
Harold McCarty I was too overleveled the whole time, never got to the end of the song in that battle and I guess I’m glad I did, didn’t want to ruin the immersion
This song's opening is Alcamoth's main theme in FC, I'm almost sure of it.
Magmadude
Same here, I did EVERY sidequest in future connected before the siege of Gran Dell.
Due to me being awfully ill playing XC1 "The God Slaying Sword" is mostly forgotten on me. But I immediately recall this song, this is powerful enough to tap my memories. God I love XC1.
0:39 Best Part in this OST
I've already played this game like three times, but finishing DE just made me want to replay XC2 and then replay this again.
Help
no help required
Xenoblade is so good, I could literally play all the games repeatedly for years without being bored
Pretty much the same situation. I recently finished the main game and the future connected and now I am playing through Torna again before tackling Xenoblade 2 XD
I feel the same way
I love these game
Yo I just want to update, I didn't replay XC2. I'm actually replaying every Xeno game now.
Send help.
the introduction of the twinkling piano notes following the HARD guitar never fails to send a shiver down my spine. god definitive edition did this song so well
I love the piano in this theme. Even some of the time when its less noticeable then other instruments you can still hear the melody it adds. I think at some points it answers to the chorus too.
Love how this song is powerful and melodic, but it’s not overstated or bombastic or overproduced. No instrument fights another for spotlight. They’re all performing exactly as intended.
I knew Zanza was the bad guy, but I didn't know it was Klaus, I thought it was Arglas. This game threw me for so many fucking loops, like I expected to high hell that Dickson was in on it the whole time, but it STILL blew me out of the water. and Shulk being dead the whole time FUCKED ME UP, the twists and turns are so insane that even though I knew who Zanza was, It STILL felt like a spoiler free playthrough. Speaking of spoilers, dont bitch at me for them, you shouldn't even be here if you didn't finish the fucking game.
alright guys we gotta figure this out, after FR, was shulks wish of a world without gods REALLY a good idea?
The idea was good. What happened when the idea was put into practice were unexpected mishaps.
@@LittleAl016Yeah, Shulk couldn't have forseen the events that would lead to Alvis being corrupted and split.
“You mere vessels DARE to oppose the will of a god? Then I shall obliterate EVERYTHING with my unimaginable power!”
This line line sums up Zanza’s character in such a fantastic manner, it shows how little he thinks of mortal lives while conversely showing how highly he regards himself, never before have I experienced a story that displays the “arrogance of a creator” in such a stunning way.
Dunban himself comments on that. He even mentions that Zanza was trapped by mere High Entia on Prison Island, and Zanza bluffs, saying "I was merely... RESTING there, for a while..."
This game is perfect!!
It's so funny too, he can't live up to his own hype and he knows it but he keeps using bluster and shows of violence to try to convince you as well as himself. Makes for a great and megamaniacal villain.
I know right? Who tf talks about their own capabilities as "unimaginable" lmao
I love that one part where he's overwhelming meyneth and he almost seems giddy with how powerful he perceives himself. "And who decides that?! A God! :D"
@@Tonjit41 Yeah, but there he was also mocking Meyneth's claiming that Zanza has no right to call himself a god, which is funny, because the only people with enough authority to declare the rights of a god are gods themselves, which both of them were lmao
So Meyneth's line there was either hypocritical or non-sensical if you think about it.
Headcanon: the choir and piano is Zanza's divine belief in his superiority while the electric guitar and drum bass is Shulk's personal grudge against Zanza seeping through the theme having been his vessel for the entire game
Zanza: NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST KEEP HAVING VISIONS WHEN I TOOK YOUR OP SWORD FROM YOU
Shulk: haha true monado go brrrr
Best boss theme. I saw this from the comments on the old version yeeeears ago but they were totally right -
guitar = power
vocals = holiness
piano = chaos
I love it!
Sephiroth: "Super Nova!"
Zanza: "Pft, amateur...."
Every time I hear that first guitar drop, I keep imagining Riki crying 'You can do it!' as a cheer/battle cry.
Man I really need to replay this game. I couldn’t never forget the stress and the weight of fighting Zanza in this final battle. Truly a beautiful game
Rock and chanting together make the most epic sounding music and there is nothing that can change my mind.
Not to mention those piano chords at places like 1:09
This game is great, and even better after experiencing Xenoblade 2
Eh, Xenoblade 2 does character development and environments way better, in my opinion (well, newer console, duh). Also, I think the music is just a TAD better than Xenoblade 1. I cried more times than I can count during Xenoblade 2 from the music alone. But in terms of game design, XC1 is superior. The gacha system in 2 is infuriating. Hopefully I can get Elektra and Ursula once I get to NG+. Those precious little cinnamon rolls were huge reasons I got the game it the first place. :-( Also, Dalia's quest was so frustrating until I found the totally out-of-the-way ice bridge spot in a moment that made me feel incredibly stupid since I'm one to explore literally every nook and cranny.
"Today, we use our power to fell a god, and then, seize our destiny!"
The fact that the World Tree falls and Pneuma has to sacrifice herself, is not because Rex defeated Malos, but because Shulk defeated Zanza in another dimension is food for thought, and definitely fits the Xenoblade 2's overarching theme of forgiveness, letting go, and most relevantly, of not blaming yourself for things that aren't your fault :(