Power upgrades for the 289 | A better breathing engine
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A highly recommended upgrade for anyone with a classic that needs a bit more grunt. The Edelbrock Aluminum Intake Combined with the 4 barrel Summit M2008 Carburetor made a perfect power sandwich for the 289 sbf. Although there was a couple modifications needed it was a fairly simple installation. Thinking about using this exact set up on our #3 project.
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Angel Robles
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The guide bolt idea is awesome. I’m going to steal that.👍
Makes aiming it not a guessing game lol
@@rookie__pilot It’s so much easier using your brain rather than my own. Yours works better. Mine fumbles.😂
@@bobmiller7426 haha!! I love this 😂
I haven't even seen that on Engine Masters!!!
Not needed.
Ahhhh... I had that manifold when I was in high school in 1974 exactly 50 years ago this summer, on my 67 Mustang that I lost my virginity in, LOL That was a sweet engine with a 650, but honestly, it was that 500 Holley 2 barrel that I think really made that engine come alive! Fun video, thanks!
I build a simple 289 years ago. 66 block 40 over with flattops, 477 471 crower solid lifter cam with a wide duration. Ported 66 heads with 195 chevy valves. Electronic ignition and a old offy360 intake with 600 edlebrock. Long tube header and full length 2.5 inch exaust. 64 falcon with a 5 speed. No super fast but a nasty little bird that surprised a few big block cars.
Now that sounds like a fun build !
I did this exact same modification to my 68 Mustang back in 1980 when I was in high school. Went from a two-barrel cast iron intake to a four barrel aluminum Edelbrock, with a Holly four barrel carburetor, Hedman long tube headers, Thrush turbo flow mufflers. I did it all in one weekend. Engine woke up.
I'm an old guy.... A 1966 289 hypo Did not come with a two barrel carburetor and manifold.
Right, it had a 4 barrel set up
The manifold in the video looked like a 2 barrel to me
That’s a dual plane manifold, not a two barrel.
He added a 289 K-Code air breather to it. Note the Shelby GT-350 decals on the sides. Obviously, it's not a Shelby.
In 65-66 a factory 289 2 barrel was a "C" code vin. 289 factory 4 barrel was an "A" code and the Shelby 289 was a "K" code.
500 AFB and AVS work really well on the small V-8s
Bro, luv how you demonstrate engine content. Just subbed.
Thanks welcome!!
Nice car , great to see young guys keeping the passion going. Always like the 289 , built a few years back , they really respond well to the right bolt on's.
Thank you for sharing, great job and really enjoyed watching your giving this awesome 289 engine a needed upgrade there a fantastic engine and another mustang running the road !
no sound like a fast car on a hot day windows down!!! good jod Angel!
Hot indeed!
The bolt alignment pins are a great idea!
I put 4v closed chamber cleveland heads etc on a 289 years ago and what a power house.
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BOSS 289
its good they fit on a 289
It takes a little modification. If I remember correctly, Cleavland heads return coolant through the block and Windsors (260, 289, 302 and 351) return through the intake manifold. Not impossible but it can be done.
Great video, will use this as a guide when upgrading my 65!
Not an upgrade.
Well done, I'm rewatching it when I put mine in next week
Perfect! Let me know if i can be of assistance!
Thank You Angel.
I had a 69 with a 302 and I didn't notice much of a change switching the intake and carburetor like you did. But it did wake up when I replaced the cam. It gave it a power band, kind of like those 2-stroke dirt bikes.
I built a 289 in 78 1,200$ in block work changed the jets in the stock carb broke it in went to sears point and turned 12.9 in quarter mile try that
Nice work RP!! Fun to see muscle car content..
Thanks! Its been fun to work on this pony
I’m Actually quite surprised more people aren’t using the bolt hack it’s just a much better way to ensure a positive one shot placement.
That Summit carb looks like a Holley. A tech at Holley told me about modifying a vacuum secondary carb by opening the round vacuum diaphragm and removing the ball bearing that resides in there. Geez, that thing drove like a double pumper! My 67 was already only getting 7 mpgs so I put the ball bearing back in. It was fun spinning the tires though.
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Dear A.R.P.
👍👌👏 Very well done again (video and work). You're such a likeable person with a big positive aura and always a smile on your face. I hope and wish you that you can keep it that way. 2) The beautiful Mustang runs and sounds great. I'm eagerly looking forward to watch the next video.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and especially health to all of you.
Very kind words, thanks so much for your support! ❤️
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You're welcome, it's my pleasure.
Additionally: Well deserved, young man, well deserved indeed.
Thanks for replying and especially for giving a heart to my comment. As you know, I always and totally appreciate both very much.
Sincerely yours.
That looks like a lot of fun. Wish I still had my old shop. A fella I knew liked to put sintered screens between the carb and intake....a series of 3 sintered screens. He said he could dial back on the fuel jets for better mileage. Headers, ignition and high gears were addressed as well. All this on a 3/4 ton pickup.....1978 Chev 350 4 bolt. Narrow tall tires. 23 mpg.......which was not bad for that year...lots of torque. Thanks for triggering a memory....good times.
Hell yeah! Thats sounds pretty interesting. But 23 mpg! Dam! Thanks so much Gary!
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Game changer.
I keep forgetting to tell Sarah.
65 miles per charge in 72 degree weather.
@@garyworokevich2524 im excited to see the evolution of EVs, all the super cars aswell as the econo boxes!
Nice work RP!
Thanks!
You can actually swap out the intake without removing the distributor. It's a little tricky, but I did it. Good video.!
Pretty car. Love the way those rolled exhaust tips make it pop. Lots more left with that little 289. Legendary engine. Put a gear in the back of it and watch it come to life!
Our other mustang is getting a 3.73 gear for the rear!
@@rookie__pilot great choice...you'll love the snap it gives you. If you put a cam in it can recommend an old school grind? I love a comp 268h. It's great for lower compression engines, has a noticeable lumpy idle and has good torque. Put a really good valve spring with about 125 lbs of seat pressure and let it rip. It loves rpms... good luck and if you need any advice please feel free to reach out. I had my first 66 mustang with a 289 in 1982 and never looked back.
@@rookie__pilot if you decide to gobthev4 wheel disc route I'll give you thecstep by step on how to put an explorer 8.8 disc brake posi, usually they are 3.73 or 4.10 gears... it's a fantastic swap and will fit a 65/66 perfectly... justvtakes a little work.
@@scottford1091 im excited to feel the difference, the last mustang i had, had a 2.80 open diff. Now we have a 3.73 lsd! I also had that 268H in the previous 289! I loved the idle
@@scottford1091 thank you Scott! If you look at our recent videos, we actually just shortened and installed an explorer 8.8!
Cool that’ll get it breathing lots better. I don’t know if it’ll be huge but I think it’ll be a lot more fun.
Definitely a bit peppy-er
Year 1965 all Ford 289 motors wether two or four barrel we're built with hypo cams and other parts. They were all painted black with golg valve covers a
Air bonnet. This was one year only promotion from Ford.
Nice work
Thanks!
Say hello to your little engine!
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Get Sarah to do a car review! 😜🇦🇺 neat looking car
Hipos came with 4 Barrels, just saying from a old guy who had one
What sized bolts did you use for your awesome intake bolt guides? Genius!
GAWWWGEOUS CAR🙌💯
GAWGEOUS INDEED
Hard to believe this car came with a 2bl. If only the heads an cam were replaced as well. Cool video
Right! Heads and a cam would definitely wake it up, but it was within the customers budget
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Gotcha
I like the Brawler's Carb's, instead of the Summit, there more of a stock replacement, but a 650 Holley Brawler, with the manual 2nd's has some extra Kick. get your car up to 30mph, Then manual shift to low & Punch it. if you want more maybe , might want to up grade your rear end gear's, 2.80 to a 3.00 or a 3.00 to a 3.25 & still cruz down the fwy.
Hell yeah!! 🤘😎
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Woulda been nice if you would explained when dropping the distributor back in place on how to drop it back in on #1 cylinder and on the top of the stroke.
True, but i didn’t put it back to #1. Just dropped it back in exactly where it was before, used a marker on the distributor base to the block and lined them back up👍🏻
I blew a 289 clean up . 65 Galaxie 500 It just didn’t won’t to go to 70 in first gear !! END OF STORY AND CAR ! WISH I HAD IT BACK NOW !!!
I recently watched the factory differences on the 289 engines and the 4 barrel came with different piston types and dual exhaust. Other than that it was all the same.
Awesome great upgrade to make it run, better I'm in New Zealand we have the Australian Holden car's I had a wagon and put a small 253 V8 in it but it was factory with a 2 barrel carb but there intake is aluminum, but it was good for economy as our petrol is expensive here ☹️ but that car was sold year's ago, I have a economy carb 4 barrel that will hopefully get put on a motor and project car in future, but for now still sorting out my Rav4 😕 👍🏽
I am no longer going to complain about fuel prices here in the US lol. That sounds like a pretty fun set up. What are the plans for the rav4?
@@rookie__pilot the rav4 is just going to be my daily driver and tow car but just need to fix it properly lol
You don't need 500hp to have fun in those small cars!
Thread seal paste instead of plumbers tape 👍
Thanks for the tip!
Hey RP, a real rookie writing here. When you put back the distributor, did you set the timing immediately with the timing light ? I saw that you timed it later after fine-tuning. I love these cars but they are pretty hard to find back here in Canada. Great video again, Thanks.
Hey there, i put the distributor back in the exact position i pulled it out. I marked it with a sharpie to get it exactly the same. Not sure what timing it was before. But now were at 10-12 btc. Theres a couple down here in the south !
How about some good aftermarket cylinder heads then that 289 would breathe a lot better and take advantage of the new intake and carburetor the stock heads don’t flow all that well but it depends what you want from the little motor
100%! But this was all within the customer’s budget
How much power would you expect to gain from this upgrade?
If you want some noticeable gains you will need a decent cam and ignition setup as well
Thanks, this was just the customer’s budget. I rad a 268H cam in my previous build it was definitely a bit peppy-er
@@rookie__pilot yeah I have built a few 260-302s they respond really well to a nice cam and intake. The heads are restrictive but if you don’t have the money for aftermarket they can be ported easily
@rookie__pilot - What bolts did you use to install this intake? I have read that the stock 2” bolts are too short and do not provide enough thread engagement? What was your experience here?
I used grade 8 bolts, i don’t quite remember what size they were, 2in or 2-1/4 or 2-1/2. I do believe i went a tad longer for that reason though! Sorry I couldn’t be more help
Measure the length needed before installing.
isnt he the helper of Shara ? good video btw . i have 1 73 stang with 2 carbs 500 intake,, 1 convert with a 4 barrel and 1 coupe with a 2 barrel intake.. lol.. slow means more miles ... with our patrol prizes mebe the way to go ,,lol.. 2,00 euro the liter .. a gallon is 3,6 liter ,, so that's ,, 7 dollar 20 cents for a gallon in Holland .
Did you not use the front and back gaskets with the intake. Looks like you just used silicone with no gasket?
Correct, it is common for those gaskets to slip or leak. So i always use a thick silicone bead which ive never had leak before
I have a 1966 A code, what kit would you use to put P/S on the car. Thanks for the tip on the bolts to align the manifold. 🙂✌ PS, its a 4 speed.
If budget isnt an issue, id go with the electric power steering option. Borgeson steering kits are also very popular. If you could an original set up those work nice too
@@rookie__pilot Thanks Angel.!!
The performer RPM would have been a much better option. the performer 289 is restrictive and meant to copy/direct copy of a stock 4 bbl.
The performer 289 is meant for the torque earlier on the power band, while the RPM is meant for up to 6500? If im not mistaken, this engine would not benefit from the RPM with its stock heads / internals
@@rookie__pilot It would benefit, if you do seat test RPM will outperform in every area. This is on 289's,302's,351's, and even a 255 with E7 heads.
@@natejones963 do you know the number differences? Cause im not sure, but i see where the RPM could be better but with a stock cam, i dont see there being any benefit for the RPM compared to the performer
Now that it can breath, I was wondering if you are doing a bigger exhaust too. Those look like two little straws for exhaust tips. A bigger radiator is a must in the summer.
Radiator is going in tomorrow or the next! And i think the exhaust is a 2.5 inch
Yeah 2.5 is a decent exhaust, especially for an engine that isnt super modified. With headers itll breath fine.
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what is the CFM of the new carb?
500!
I can smell gasoline. Isn't that weird? The power of the brain.
Lol! Thats awesome 😂
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Holley are better carbs overall. Never had a bad holley unless it was user error. have had over 10 bad Edelbrock's...
This is meant to be a direct “copy” of the Holley carbs, we have a holley for our latest project though 👍🏻
Does this get 22 Miles Per Gallon???
Plus or minus 10 lol
Needs to be manual. 289 want to rev. Having a lazy torque converter auto is killing it and dust sucking gas for no gain
No seat belts in the states Angel ?
Yes! These have lap belts, i must have forgotten to put it on lol
@@rookie__pilot cool I wasnt trying to be critical Angel, just asking. I have a 1961 Austin Healey 3000 here in the UK and it is exempt from seat belts due to age. I wondered if it was the same in the US for classic or historic vehicles?
I believe there is a certain year where they are exempt! Im not sure what it is though lol
Gotta love a butt dyno =)
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I'm falling asleep to the music wtf
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260 HP
Butt dyno, LOL.
W😅W did even pretend to cough at the most important function of the carburetor- totally omitted the CFM of his new carb..... SMH?!
Wow i might have forgotten, 500 cfm is the answer 😂
yeah, this mod certainly won’t make this 289 very powerful. It needs much more for that.
Obviously, but this was the customer’s budget. But it DEF improved power which was the point 👍🏻
That’s a 225 hp not 271hp.
Yup not a hipo
Edelbrock intakes have ruined more cars than any other aftermarket parts. Choke brackets hot starts accelerator linkages air cleaners fuel lines. Oil leaks. All modified and mostly hacked wanting a new intake. Keep it stock. Run perfect. Dependable. Don’t be a rookie. .
This must be one of those self made statistics 📉
HYPOs are internally balanced and have a dual point dist.and a specialty 635 Holley among other obvious external parts.
I highly recommend a set of 4:33 rear gears.
4:33’s are really good but with the c4 transmission wed be high rpm at highway speeds
Switching to a 4bbl head is way more important .
Only thing I see wrong here is
The heads are more likely to be 2 barrel heads not 4 barrel, and your sort of defeat the purpose, and now your dumping to much fuel for the heads
Hmm maybe youre confusing the K code HiPo heads? A and C codes had the same heads. Maybe different compression? Not sure if youve tried this before, definitely made a difference. MPG does go down when you go bigger carb yes
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Nope I did what u did 40yrs ago, and when I got 4 barrel heads it was night and Day
Difference, there is a difference where the valves are, doesn't matter a code c code or k code, there is 2 different heads for sb ford
Been building them for ever,
I have never taking off 4 barrel heads the had 2 barrel carb and intake, unless the engine was torn apart
If u flip the heads over
The 2 barrel is circular where the valves are and the 4 barrel has like a round point going back in toward the spark plug
That's how you tell if it's a 4 barrel set of heads or 2 barrel heads
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My 68 stang came with 2 barrel. but I built the motor since, and modified the heads. I didn’t even know there was 2-4 bbl heads?? Wow.. are the 2bbl heads slower?? Or maybe they just come with smaller valves or something?? My 68 came with 1966 heads, I heard they were a little better, I think better compression, not sure if true or not tho, they now have 202 valves w 3angle grind, and good porting work, 2bbl heads hmm
@@vincentbrugetti7254 Theres no differences, as far as ive seen nowhere that actually states it. Could be wrong