Engine Rebuild Under $200 | 302 Short Block Assembly
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You do such a nice job of making this feel approachable for those of us with modest mechanical experience. Nice clear explanations, patiently explained so it’s easy to follow. Feel good about it, it’s not a common gift 👍
What a great comment thanks Kev 👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏼
The next time you assemble a block, dont use towels to clean the block. They can leave very fine fibers even if they're microfiber. But something that is very cheap and doesnt leave anything behind is coffee filters. Yes, coffee filters! It sounds freaking nuts. But its true! Have fun man! i cant wait to hear it run.
When I was 16, wayyy back in the 80's with no money...my Dad got me a 1968 Rustang, we made sheet metal plates and bolted them in for floor boards...and got a gunked up 351W, I cleaned and honed the cylinders and installed new rings and bearings...that was it...ran great..love watching your build, takes me back!😎👍
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When I have an engine out of the car on a stand I like to install the camshaft first it allows you to guide it through the bearings with your hands without the crank in the way. Don't let the "I only build motors the right way" guys get to you. I've built many motors in the same fashion as this and never had a problem. The old timers would call this an overhaul.
Youre right!! I told myself to install the cam first but it ended up slipping my mind lol. Yes an overhaul would be a better term for this
As long as it specs out alright, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
I like that saying!
This is one of the best engine builds I've seen. Very DIY and relatable, and your commentary is entertaining too.
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Thank you!!
These engine rebuild videos have been great, Angel! I have seen so many videos where engines are rebuilt, but with the content you're putting out I can really get an understanding of what's going on. Keep up the great work, my dude.
Nice job Angel. I'm a bit behind, but I'm trying to get caught up on your videos after Sarah mentioned your channel. It's great that you still help her out from time to time. Another awesome channel.
Great job Angel! Your manner and level of explanation rivals many auto shop teachers! And mistakes happen, and it's what you take away from them is a bonus! Great save! Keep up the good work!
I like your trick with the quart of oil by putting a hole in the cap to control the amount of oil that you are pouring.
Hey bud, you should never let people's negative comments bring you down. You do what you want to do. Building a motor your own way is what makes it fun.
That was nice! Almost like sitting in a mechanic class with a funny teacher. 😅
Well done you for someone on a very tight budget you are trying to do the best job, making sure that it goes together all the way through. good job
To help answer a question here. There is no need to replace a piston, unless it is physically damaged or the wrist pins are worn out. You can spend a ton of money on high performance parts but that defeats the budget build. It's not gong to blow up.
Well said!
Awesome presents!
Excellent descriptive process
nice, quick, and dirty. How the OG's at the dragstrip used to do it.
Yes, lubrication is important. My wife also agrees!! I think it's 17 ten thousandths, not 17 thousandths. 17 thousandths would be bigger than 2 thousandths. Right? I don't know....
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Nice one, Angel! I think you’re doing a great job demonstrating that you don’t need to spend up to do a good job. My jet ski build is the exact opposite, lol. New crankcases, bored cylinders, fresh crank, new pistons, new high compression head. I fell into the “while I’m in here, I might as well…” pit and smashed my wallet lol
“Might as well” haha i gotcha it happens to all of us 😂
Piston and rod cap orientation is so critical. I've got a VQ30 with a giant hole in the side to prove it. BTW, it is truly a pants browning event when a rod breaks at 6,500 rpm.
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In measurement of the main clearance it is 15 ten thousandths. On the rear seal I usually put some lube on the seal to crank.
Just so you know the first plastic gauge reading was 1-1/2 thousandths not 15 😎
Thank you! I knew i was saying it wrong 😂
I know I wanted to see the mootor cammed and built blahblah, but I am absolutely excited with how you're building it! The down and dirty get it done approach is badass, reminds me of the fun I used to have out in the driveway just putting toys together to enjoy! 2 enthusiastic thumbs up, bro!
Maybe we’ll do a cam in the future 😎
@@rookie__pilot nah man not in this motor, save the cam for the eventual 351 that you're gonna need!!
You need to check the end clearance of the crankshaft. You need to put a dial indicator on the front or the rear of the crankshaft and see how much movement you have front to back.
I second that endplay needs to be checked , especially since Angel thought the thrust bearing he took out he assumed was worn a-lot. 😊
Thank you guys! I dont have a dial indicator either sooo thatll have to wait lol
$13 at HF and they have a magnetic base for $10.
Not fancy but I'll bet they are accurate.
No need for Starret or Mitutoyo
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@@rookie__pilot as us aussies say,she,ll be right
A very good job and Sarah has taught you well, you admit mistakes when you make them, this would make a good tutorial for someone doing it for the first time.
you get such a nice balance when you watch angel's and sarah's approaches in turn
You know who would have polished those pistons so clean you could see your reflection in them.
Nice work! In addition to being able to follow your video really well, I couldn't help but notice the effort you put into editing. I know this takes a ton of time and I wanted to let you know it wasn't going unnoticed. Dude, you're gonna hit 10k subs by this Summer, probably by June. :)
Thanks! Im sure out of all people you’d understand! This one took about 8hrs, ive toned down the editing a bit in order to accommodate the increased frequency. So thanks for noticing! Hopefully youre right about the 10k! Your channel has been growing fast, good work man!
I’m glad you pointed out the fact that during use with oil pressure, the crank is “floating” on a hydrodynamic wedge, old guys like me call it that anyway. The oil pressure keeps it from touching the bearing’s surface. The bearing is there for start up purposes. My father use to disconnect the coil wire on all his vehicles before startup and spin the engine a few revolutions with the key to get oil up to the main bearing surfaces. Starter speed allows oil to permeate the bearing surface/fill the void between crank and bearing surface a little before the engine cranks with spark. When that happens, the engine goes from start speed (revolutions) to idle very quickly. Like maybe 100 -120 rpm’s to 700-whatever idle rpm’s in a second or two. Probably not necessary to do every day but his hot rods might sit for a few days to maybe weeks. That means oil has seeped out of bearings, except for residual oil permeation of bearings. Anyways, I like your video so far and I just subscribed!
nothing wrong with this assembly really. these older ones had very generous tolerances from factory. also it comes to a point where a fully machined block of this era would be more costly than a crate engine or a wrecker modern engine.
I call this an overhaul, when you do all the necessary machine work then I call it a rebuild! I’m doing a 351 Windsor now that I’m putting into a 65 ranchero. I still haven’t settled on what I’m going to do for a transmission but it will definitely be an overdrive. Ii guess it would be considered a restomod.
I learned a few things. It`s also good practice the next time you have to do it. Onward!
Very nice ! Showing the failure on your part just adds to the interesting parts of the whole build. I love that you used a Mustang II front suspension in it too. I owned a 76' Mustang II/Cobra II and would have never thought that suspension was good for any car as it wasn't so great in it's own anyway!
That plasty gauge thingy is pretty cool.
Right!
We are digging the budget build. It is far better to drive the car then to achieve perfection and not enjoy driving it. IMHO....YOLO!!!!
I like your low buck approach
You and my wife agree 😂
As explained to me by an experienced builder:
You don't want the bearings to spin.
Putting oil under them is counterproductive.
Also, before assembly lube was a common thing, my dad and I used STP.
These videos are getting better and better!! The lube comment... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No oil under the bearings,wipe off the surface with brake cleaner where the bearings sit, any oil under the bearings might make them spin and you don't want that
Hay man do what you got to do let them hate😊 and this is a great video 😅😂😊😊😊
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Just for practice and the educational value, check the rod clearances.
When I rebuilt my 350, I had my rods reconditioned. That ever so slightly increased the clearance. Now it was ever so slightly wider than the max factory specs 😱
My machinist said, not to worry, it will just sling a tiny bit more oil.
Great job at showing the public how easy it is and great narative also someone put some money and time in your block before obviously with the 010 bearings and 040 bore i would have ditched the pistons for a better ring package seeing how much ring wear was in cylinders but it will run and probably has minimual wear
And be extremely careful with machine shops today, you will be extremely lucky if you find one that does good work.
I had a 347 stroker built by two different machine shops and $14,000 later my motor is pulled out and I'm building the bottom end my self 3 months later about 200 miles
GREAT point, ive seen some very high dollar jobs turn into a complete mess
Outstanding Angel.
Thank you!
right on cupcake. congrats 😅 little Sarah is as well❤
Nice explaining and great troubleshooting as you go. Think you will grow and become part of some library.
Thanks for an interesting video. Very instructional with a nice conversational manner
As someone else pointed out, you should check crankshaft endplay, especially since you were thinking the old one you took out was worn a lot. The crank should only be able to move from front to back of engine under so many thousandths of an inch based on specs for a specific engine 😎
Generally it’s a few thousandths.
Thank you!
Great explanation on everything! Those ring compressors aren't my favorite style though.
Let the haters hate man. More comments for the algorithm. 😂😂😂
Great attention to detail 👍👍
Thank you Bob!
Excellent video man. Great real world content and great editing. I was thoroughly entertained. Keep it up!
Hell yeah thanks man🤘🏼
Atleast you know you can cam the hell ou t it with those speed pro 4 valve releaf is quiet substantial on those speed pros
One more as i watch should wait till end and just one book intlstead of many messages but helps on yt its natural to put top and second ring on a orientation but tbt rings spin while running they move oround at different ratess threwout differnt engine speeds and land inline at one piont for however long at time before rotating past dont stress it its good practice but dont mater much unless like yourself and i it just feels right to clock them plus i sleep better knowing i clocked them
Wow - only 25 ft-lbs of torque for the rod bolts seems low, but apparently that is correct (for a non-Boss 302 motor - they are double that).
Hello angel.
I know about you thru Sarahs channel, and found out you have your own, found you,and subscribed, great video my friend and congrats on the 7k followers, i pray you get your 10k fast. Love tge channel, God Bless brother
Coming along really well.
Thank you!
I'm with you cap'n
Whoa, congrats on 7k!
Thanks!!!
I bought an 87 5.0 LX notch when I was in high school, it smoked a little and had a ton of miles on it so I bought a rebuilt 5.0 to go in it. I decided it would be fun to blow up the old engine, so after trying to blow it up I broke the transmission instead. My point is the old 5.0 engine is tough as hell and will still run great without being perfect.
Good job! She will run fine for many miles!
You probably don't have a dial indicator but checking end play on the crank is an important part of any rebuild, especially when wear is showing on the thrust bearing. Maybe you could add dial indicator to your wish list. Good luck on this project and on your channel. I'm enjoying this build! 😎👍🐎🏁🏁
WD40 and paper towels work for cylinder cleaning
Great job! It will run fine!
Nice work mate.you have shown you can still build a engine with limited budget and tools.
Being mostly factory it will probably run ok.
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People that say there is only one way to build a engine & that's the right way, there are two facts about these people. 1st of all that tells me these people have always had money & have never been in a spot when you just simply have to make what u have work! Period! They have always had the luxury of if a part or a procedure or a special tool was needed, they just got to go buy those things. They have never considered the thought of working with what you have. And they believe do such a thing, is the "right way".
Wich brings me to my 2nd fact I know about these people. Not only have they never even considered needing to make it happen with x amount, they have never made it happen at all! They know nuthing about engines. Becouse they believe they understand the "right way". I wish they would explain it to me? Becouse the individual decides what the right way is?? Many ways are the right ways! They think they need all of the top machining techneaches performed & they need all new internals of the best name brand! They have no idea about actually fixing the engine. They don't know to home hone. They don't know to grind valves & valve seats & putting a head back together & knowing how cool it is that only you have touched that head & u know how good of shape it is now becouse of your own work. And u know! That's different than knowing becouse that's what someone told you! And all a person knows at all is what they havevbeen told becouse they have never had to do it at all themselves! And they say do it right?? Right is whatever u want to use it for, & u getting to use it just like u wanted. If u just wanted it to run & get u to work & back & that's what u are doing with it,? Then it was dun right!!!
Angel food cake! You should have Sarah pimp your channel when you help her. If she has I’ve missed it.
Nice work.
Thanks!
Good video better than the one I made good detail 😂. Nice work rings do spin in the boar over time . Ring gap is the most important.
"...ask any mechanic, machinist, or wife." 😂
Nice they painted the lifter valley with Glyptal, gives better oil return. At the very least, they were attempting to do a good job it would seem. What kind of ignition are you planning on running - Pertronix or something of that nature? Intake, etc?
Probably the cheapest route lol, pertronix most likely. I want to do a edebrock rpm intake!
Great video.
Thanks!
In 6 months you will have warm soapy water in the shop. This is Tucson after all.
Best rod for any stock build the early model and late model with the bridged cap has more strength then all others except the football rods also like said in other message someone put time and galiptall painted the oil valley on surfaces where needed its anti oil or phobic type paint that repels oil used on electric motors armature and other parts anti static shit dont stick to it and its expensive paint as well as very temperamental on aplication block has to be hot tanked and baked out all oils
• Honestly Love All The Tips Everyone In The Comments Are Leaving, So Much Stuff That’ll Go Over Ones Head (Including Myself) ‼️
Right! Thank you!
Bro! Glad you taking a chance and doing it yourself, but what is the goal of this engine? Is it going in the mustang? Otherwise I saw the cylinders, they need bored for proper seal. It will run but wont last long...Ask for help, I'll send some stuff.. That block is a paper weight..
The goal for the engine is to get it running with the recourses available! We definitely welcome help, as our patreons and members of the scrapstang community have pitched so much to the progress weve made !
@@rookie__pilot I believe i have a new msd style distributor for a 302. Give me some info and i will send it over rover!
Never put oil under the bearing its made to sit on block and not have oil behind the bearings causing a incorrect main and rod bearing clearance
Hooray! Good news for once! 😂
13:27 Thank you for saying foot-pounds. (Reference-manual read style).
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Great videography and explanations. Just want to point your plastigauge interpretation. The slot between .002 (two thousands) and .001 (one thousands) is .0015 (or one and a half thousands) not fifteen thousands (which would be .015 not .0015. Spec for that block is anywhere from 1.5-2 thousands definitely not 17 thousands.
Thank you! Yes i didnt realize until it was too late lol 😂
Bueno, Bueno, Bueno!
Gracias!
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I would say if you are pouring water into it It's half full and if you drink water from it it's half empty. And if you're not doing either, then it probably doesn't belong to you and you shouldn't touch it.
I like this 😂
Did you say ask any wife? LOL. Subtle, funny. Cheers.
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The main big. Rover sized the crank has been turned to 010 under size . Just saying.from Georgia the state not the country. Have a great day
Sooooooo........... why are you reusing the old pistons instead of buying new ones? EVERYONE STAND BACK!!! HE'S GOANNA BLOW!!!!😁😁😁
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One and a half thousands clearance on mains not 15 thousands
NEVER put oil on the underside of the bearings…..NEVER!!!
By the way, I caught the lube joke!😉
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probly the big magnet it passes through at security demagnetizing it.... duh
15 thousands is thou in a half
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That’s not 15 thousandths, that is 1 1/2 thousandths
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Damn auto correct. The main brgs. Are over sized the crank shaft is under sized. You get the idea. Use plasta gage to check clearance or u mite turn a brg.on the first roll over. Just saying
is spending all that time getting the position of the rings in the grooves just fruitless...?? the rings are not secured in their locations...so when the engine fires up, they move freely....no?
Absolutely! But id rather do it anyway 😂
Its not 15 its one thousandth and 5 tents in the industry or 1 and ½ thousands ....
lol 15 lmao
@@snicks50 stop it 😂