Ford 302 Small Block Becomes A 400+ HP Street Fighter - Horsepower S14, E1

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  • Making power on a budget is the goal of HorsePower this time, as they take a Ford 302 Small Block and build it up to a 306 cubic inch, 400+ horsepower street-fighter.

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  • @24theMoney
    @24theMoney ปีที่แล้ว +51

    400 hp at the crank in a light foxbody 5-spd is all you need.

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I 💯% agree with that statement.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This would also be a great swap for an old Maverick.

    • @donh1572
      @donh1572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I said the same thing when I built 300hp, then 400hp, then 500 hp, then 600hp, it’s a sickness that never ends

    • @24theMoney
      @24theMoney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To all the naysayers, C5 Z06 was rated 405hp. Foxbody LX notch/hatch is even lighter than C5.

    • @sethb8831
      @sethb8831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Southern10Fiveoverkill yes. Awesome absofknlutely

  • @perotekku
    @perotekku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    6:40 "Cast Iron Aluminum Heads" man, am I going crazy?

    • @HOTRODERify
      @HOTRODERify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      no you're not I heard it too had to back it up to double check what he said

    • @100Aces
      @100Aces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah! I too did a double take!?

    • @centraltexasfoxbodies
      @centraltexasfoxbodies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahah so did I

    • @jjtool5800
      @jjtool5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Think he meant they are available in iron or aluminum

    • @chaoszombie9995
      @chaoszombie9995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think what He meant was they make them in cast iron AND aluminum lol

  • @HammerHeadGarage
    @HammerHeadGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I've been running a melling high volume pump for 3 years with a stock pan. Regular trips to 6200 plus and zero problems. Make sure you use a hardened oil pump driveshaft.

    • @johnjohnsn7633
      @johnjohnsn7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ARP is now making an oil pump drive shaft for the Fords.

    • @ZedTee77
      @ZedTee77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just a question, do you hold high rpm for a decent length of time or just run it up through a gear then back down? The oil pan evacuation/starvation issues usually only occur when the rpm is high for a decent length of time or during high g forces.

    • @HammerHeadGarage
      @HammerHeadGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZedTee77 up and down, no road for that here. Still, I have friends who stock car race with the same deal. No oil starvation.

    • @ZedTee77
      @ZedTee77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hammer Head Garage yeah cool good to know. I have a cheap old falcon I use as a rally car, has an 4 litre inline 6, I’ve never had oil issues while rallying it full noise but I did get oil starvation doing doughnuts on the spot once, heard it start ticking and seen no oil pressure on dash, only a couple seconds before I realised and stopped, engine survived luckily. Was a weird one but I put it down to the g force of quick circles and constant 5000 rpm. It’s strange cause there has been plenty of fast laps on the rally track I’d expect to have issue with but never do. One of those things if u have a good engine it might be better off preparing for something that might never be an issue rather than waiting for it to cause damage and lose a good engine to something that could have been prevented. Hard to know if your situation really needs it until it’s too late

    • @HammerHeadGarage
      @HammerHeadGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ZedTee77 If you have room for a baffled extended oil pan I say use it. I don't.

  • @jasonhooey5677
    @jasonhooey5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Neat! Cast iron aluminum heads, they must be super rare

  • @johnjohnsn7633
    @johnjohnsn7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Slight correction needed here. While he was somewhat correct when he stated the "302" had "shorter connecting rods" than the 289, the BOSS 302 utilized connecting rods that were the same length as the 289. In fact, the 1969 BOSS 302's connecting rods used the same forgings as the 289 HiPo, but instead of being "broached" for the HiPo's "square head" 3/8" rod bolts, the BOSS rods were "spotfaced" for the "football"-headed 3/8" bolts exclusive to the BOSS engines.

  • @ISABELLAKLINIKEN
    @ISABELLAKLINIKEN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    For those wondering about the oil system upgrade in the lifter gallery, it's covered in Horsepower S13 E16 at 16:25

  • @craigstewart1532
    @craigstewart1532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Where can I get some of those cast iron aluminum heads? I was going to get steel bronze ones.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The plastic heads are lighter... or iron plastic heads if don't mind a little more weight...

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DFB58 - I knew they would... heat is HP and the powdercoat holds heat in...

    • @roknroy1
      @roknroy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      unobtainium heads are the best! also chrome moly rings, and don't forget the cross drilled brake hoses!

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unobtainium heads are always best for budget engine builds...

    • @scottcorwin3483
      @scottcorwin3483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally go for the Alumisteel.

  • @Billhatestheinternet
    @Billhatestheinternet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The trick the British use for the valve cover is to silicone it to the valve cover and then coat the bottom of the gasket with LubriPlate or just plain axle grease, which will in turn act as a primitive sealant in it's own right, all the while allowing for the assembly to be readily removed.

    • @JBAutomotive794
      @JBAutomotive794 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats how I've done mine for years. Works great

  • @indoornepenthes7809
    @indoornepenthes7809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I rebuilt my 302 to a 306 with an edlebrock airgap and a 1406 carb pulled 379hp. Not bad for a garage build 👌 Melts rubber too

    • @UptownFights
      @UptownFights 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How much it cost you? I have a tired 1968 mustang 302 in the back carport. I need do do something with it. What can did you put in yours?

    • @oscarwalker5791
      @oscarwalker5791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you do if you're fuel injected

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you also used a summit stroker kit?

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oscarvillarreal8951 This is NOT a stroker!

  • @GorillaCookies
    @GorillaCookies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been looking for " Cast Iron Aluminum Heads " my whole life!

  • @gen-x-zeke8446
    @gen-x-zeke8446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    It's weird. 400 hp used to mean something; even 300. I love the modest numbers and excellent reliability of these 302's.

    • @gregoryclark6339
      @gregoryclark6339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Back then there was no torque management to save the transmission, so when your 302 Ford or 350 GM made 400hp at the flywheel you soon sent your stock transmission over the rainbow bridge. You’re right though, it’s impressive that engine platforms designed as much as 70 years ago are still thriving due to the enthusiast market.

    • @gen-x-zeke8446
      @gen-x-zeke8446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gregoryclark6339 And the they make a 7.3 Godzilla. I think that says something about gasv V8. There is a V8 hybrid coming next yea..im thinking a Super Duty surprise. They say it's for Mustang, but that doesn't make sense. Either way Ford is kicking butt and so is Chevy with their new 6.6 gas. I've never been 100% on the current HEMI, but I'm sure they are fine overall.

    • @Bob_Lablaw
      @Bob_Lablaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Alot of these new factory cars making 600hp+ are heavy AF the old foxbody mustangs we so dang light thats a big reason these 350-400hp 302's can still hang.

    • @edwardzamorski3711
      @edwardzamorski3711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      3 or 400 horsepower still means alot to me after owning a Ford tempo

    • @gen-x-zeke8446
      @gen-x-zeke8446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edwardzamorski3711 My riding lawn mower is has the dull headlight package and 12.5 hp. 0-10 in 3.7 seconds. EcoBrats don't stand a chance. Hellcat?? Nope. Anything GM? Piss off. Tesla?? Were you drunk when you designed the Cyber-Drunk? Sure looks like it...fkn punding Budweisers while watching Sci Fi channel about Musk Aliens. Give me modesty because overall, I can stomach the maintainence costs (even if a bit much). I can't imagine the batteryu packs in those and the procedure in replacing them, or the drive motors when they go bad...and they will go bad. No thanks I'll beat them to 60 by leaving yesterday; no problem!!

  • @ethanbunch3274
    @ethanbunch3274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Rebuilding a 302 for my 91 F-150 and it's a very similar build to this one so this is very helpful for me! bore is at 4.060 with a 3 inch stroke bringing it to 312. Topping it with some new DSS -3 cc flat top pistons and an Edelbrock performer RPM camshaft, intake, and cylinder heads. I figured let them do all the work for me as far as mating a cam intake and heads. The compression when I'm done with it all should be around 9.94 to 1. Little saddened cause I thought I'd make around 400 based on the edelbrock numbers but your video shows that it might not be that much. Still I have been watching you guys for years and yall have just grown my love for working on engines and now I have the knowledge to build my own for a vehicle that I love dearly. Thank you so much and I look forward to building this back up!

    • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
      @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why.. it might be .. it actually could be more.. not leas

    • @ethanbunch3274
      @ethanbunch3274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 actually you're correct! A lot has changed with the build since I wrote that comment and I'm looking now at about 420 according to my numbers and some older racing guys that I know of say 450 horse with this motor

    • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
      @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanbunch3274 Kool man... Good for you... Yeah, seems very likely to me. I'd have to hear it... But I bet probably closer to 450. Than to 400.
      Hell, depending on setup, and other little details, it could be even a bit higher than that... It depends

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you use a Summit stroker kit?

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethanbunch3274 And was the Summit stroker kit reliable when you used it?

  • @FordRanchero289
    @FordRanchero289 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP Joe, we'll miss you're awesome voice and character!

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When the 5.0L Coyote V8 came out that took the little 302 as well as the Ford Modular V8 to a whole another level.

    • @brarautorepairs
      @brarautorepairs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ford engineers had a goal to make 400 hp and they exceeded it. You really should thank the engineers for pushing for a better product as they are real car people. For years Ford didn't put a rear independent suspension on the Mustang because it cost an extra $800 per car but the engineers kept insisting to have the mustang with IRS (Corbras did come with IRS for the 99 2000). Then the Coyote Engine came out and it exceeded 400 hp which was pretty amazing on 87 octane and 91 gave you 425 to 435 hp depending on the model year. The only sad part is that the LS motor offers a better bang for buck performance wise. The LS motor is more simple than the Coyote, costs less to modify (I.e. one can verses 4) and responds better to mods. Plus the larger displacement combined with the 2 valve design gives more low end torque for the LS.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brarautorepairs Thats true.

    • @erikturner5073
      @erikturner5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brarautorepairs the mustang was always a MUSCLE car in the past without the independent suspension. Muscle cars strength is power and acceleration. Since independent suspension is now in the mustang picture(to enhance handling) it's no longer a muscle car, and instead a sports car along with the Corvette. As far as the coyote engine goes I'm not a fan of myself. Ford can KEEP IT! I like the old push rod engines. If I can have a Windsor, then I'll do an LS swap before I do a coyote swap into my foxbody. I'm glad to see ford come to there sences and offer the new Godzilla 7.3 and the smaller 6.8 version pushrod engines.

    • @brarautorepairs
      @brarautorepairs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikturner5073 Ford will likely have to move to a V6 engine in the GT in the future. Pushrod motors, despite their packaging and weight advantages, aren't going to be the future of ICE. The DOHC 5.0L 32 valve engine is undoubtedly better than the old school V8 offerings from Ford. GM is an outliers with their continued use and development of push rod engines. But even GM had to add cam phasing for emission reasons to their motors. Chrysler's HEMI engines haven't put out amazing numbers without forced induction. We look at a 5.0l V8 with a high rev in high specific output which is best for a track setting.

    • @erikturner5073
      @erikturner5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brarautorepairs although the LS and Hemi rule the streets. Both are pushrod engines. Coyotes are impressive, but are over complicated and also very expensive. They are not as popular as the other two. Plus people are going back to the old Windsors. Plus they lack cubes. Still if I couldn't have a Windsor, then I'd do an LS swap into my foxbody and not a Coyote. LS swaps are much more popular than coyote swaps for plenty of reasons.

  • @zarbog8618
    @zarbog8618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The arts and crafts section was outstanding! Some very useful easy projects to make your life easier. They also build a pretty bad ass little 302.

  • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
    @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man.. this is perfect... Exactly what I need done right at the moment... This is just the perfect type of rebuilds I am into

  • @tomashton1781
    @tomashton1781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    when you store any engine ,for more then a season that has push rods, back the rockers off all the valves are closed, some springs mess up if you dont,plus it keeps junk out.

  • @longshot5738
    @longshot5738 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My guess is you’re using a Comp Cams 35-450-8 in it. It’s the same cam I’m using in my 306 for my F100. I’m using the Ready-to-Run Distributor with 1.6 scorpion roller rockers on AFR 185cc Aluminum Heads that are ported to 200+cc, Air-Gap intake, and a 650 Holley Carb. Very nice setup!

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your setup is making more peak, and average, Hp, and Tq.! You have much better cyl. heads, the best dual plane intake, and matched perfectly to the rpm range of that camshaft! Great choice of parts.

    • @slambergang
      @slambergang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's your combustion chamber specs? I'm thinking about going 58cc with stock stroke and rods but I'm not sure what piston size to go for. They never mentioned in the video what piston specs they have for 10.2:1

    • @RScott413
      @RScott413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a perfect N/A setup. Very close to the standard I have used with great results. Funny, I had a 100 with a 429 long ago and I would have loved to use a SBF build with the stuff out today. The 650 is absolutely perfect for that setup too.

    • @longshot5738
      @longshot5738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@slambergang Mine should be around 10.8 or so.

  • @terraboundmisfit
    @terraboundmisfit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The 302 does have shorter connecting rods, but the longer stroke 3" vs 2.87" is what makes the larger displacement.

    • @jjsbluz6081
      @jjsbluz6081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, added the rod bolt boots this time!

    • @jjsbluz6081
      @jjsbluz6081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been using the hi-volume oil pumps forever. Used an ARP or Milodon race pump shaft for last 8K RPM Mech Roller cam motor. Nice build!

    • @jjsbluz6081
      @jjsbluz6081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the RHS heads HP/$!

    • @jjsbluz6081
      @jjsbluz6081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you get this performance w/89 octane, timing deg ? Thx!

    • @jjsbluz6081
      @jjsbluz6081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our old benchmark for factory C9-D0 351W iron heads on a 302 was 355 HP @ 6,000!

  • @robertfoley6430
    @robertfoley6430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Cast iron aluminum heads 🤣🤣 new alloy huh Joe??🤣🤣

    • @johngreene6783
      @johngreene6783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's what I said. I even had to rewind that part to make sure that I heard it right LOL

    • @robertfoley6430
      @robertfoley6430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johngreene6783 RIGHT!?!?

    • @coltenschocke891
      @coltenschocke891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also had to rewatch that part 😂

    • @DylanC828
      @DylanC828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cast iron-aluminum heads. Cheaper performance heads made of cast iron rather than aluminum

    • @patrickharms6636
      @patrickharms6636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The weight of cast iron with the price of aluminum!

  • @jord9308
    @jord9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Antiseize on plugs will significantly reduce heat transfer from the plug to the head, causing shorter plug life. GM has a TSB about this. Better to chase the threads and use a little engine oil and just back the plugs out and reseat at oil change time

  • @dewightkey6975
    @dewightkey6975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of best engine build dyno shows on thanks a lot l.d.k.

  • @davidsimmons177
    @davidsimmons177 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I LOVE your channel but I do wish you linked things in the description like the rotating assembly you got from summit since there is so many choices

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 ปีที่แล้ว

      its probably the summit brand rotating assembly. this is a super old video

  • @19jody72
    @19jody72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just found this channel and instantly subbed.. just because of the TV shows back in the day

  • @probike4527
    @probike4527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Would love to see this build again, but this time retain the efi and maybe a run with a edelbrock intake and a run with the trickflow and see if it can still knock out the 400hp.

    • @vtecbanger3180
      @vtecbanger3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to know that outcome

    • @whackaify
      @whackaify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      definitely with the EFI idk why they got rid of it

    • @vtecbanger3180
      @vtecbanger3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whackaify must make more with carb

    • @whackaify
      @whackaify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vtecbanger3180 Would've assumed EFI would make more sense but probably simpler for a dyno setup especially if they had a carb lying around. I prefer the wonders of EFI in a street car

    • @vtecbanger3180
      @vtecbanger3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whackaify rich holdner just dropped a video. The efi had more bottom end but the carb killed it too end.

  • @solarpall
    @solarpall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice clean job guys!! I have been looking for a updated build for my 5.0 and this looks good!

    • @garypoyner4899
      @garypoyner4899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never use a stock transmission on a high pro engine tranny will blow up

  • @jessbrown7742
    @jessbrown7742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mine is gonna be done this weekend! Beyond pumped up. 86 F-150 with identical build as shown

    • @illyadope3787
      @illyadope3787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same heads too? What part number are yours? Thanks

    • @rlz_79
      @rlz_79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how much was the build ?

    • @rlz_79
      @rlz_79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      looking to do this on my 1979 F-150 Ranger XLT

  • @A-BONEpickup
    @A-BONEpickup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    R.H.S cast iron aluminum heads lol.

    • @craighansen7594
      @craighansen7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Did he mean to say that or are they using teleprompters?

    • @rustybritches6747
      @rustybritches6747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol wtf!

    • @aaronliddell4280
      @aaronliddell4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      These guys are idiots...

    • @RapiddShortss
      @RapiddShortss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@aaronliddell4280 just because they have a few grammatical hiccups doesn’t mean they are idiots.

    • @aaronliddell4280
      @aaronliddell4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RapiddShortss I respectfully disagree. Their entire show is based off the fact that they’re supposed to be very well versed in what they’re giving advice on. This is beyond grammatical errors.

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! THE PERFECT UPGRADE FOR YOUR DAILY DRIVER!!! GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS FOR SHARING!!!

  • @MikeWolf-427
    @MikeWolf-427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always wanted cast iron aluminum heads, lol. I bet they make all the Horse Powers

  • @2nd66tube2
    @2nd66tube2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cast iron aluminum heads 6:40 must be some super rare race part

  • @TheJohndeere212
    @TheJohndeere212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently bought a 302 out of the Mustang GT for my old truck.

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The stock Windsor (as opposed to the Cleveland) oiling system is great from the factory. I've never seen anyone else run extra oil lines in the valley.

  • @AmericanTermite
    @AmericanTermite 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I COULD LITERALLY LISTEN TO HIM TALK ALL DAY ❤

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I firmly believe that 302 is just as easy to get 400 as a Chevy tree fiddy.

  • @jefflee7820
    @jefflee7820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What episode details the oiling upgrade in the lifter galley?

    • @marselluscain302
      @marselluscain302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive looked every where, i remember watching it on TV 12 or so years ago

  • @PatriotPlus179
    @PatriotPlus179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I honestly didn't expect it to gain this much power with the stock stroke. A 331 with this same top end (..and a little more cam) would be a bad little motor.

    • @chucksgarage7165
      @chucksgarage7165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it needed a little more cam too. But not bad for 89 octane.

    • @tomwiens3500
      @tomwiens3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what I'm currently building for a '69 stang, same cam that they used but with aluminum heads and a 331 stroker kit, after seeing this I'm super excited to get this old car back on the road!

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomwiens3500 is a summit stroker good? These guys raised it up to 400 hp but it was just 1 time. I was wondering if it can last and aren't fragile parts.

    • @tomwiens3500
      @tomwiens3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oscarvillarreal8951 Not 100% sure on summit's assembled short blocks. I'm running a stock factory roller block with a scat series 9000 331 stroker rotating assembly that they claim can handle 600hp. Being that with my cam/head setup it's only going to be around 400hp I'm not at all worried.

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomwiens3500 thanks for the feedback brother 👍

  • @Robert-tj3qq
    @Robert-tj3qq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how you guy's used different rounds when making gasket penetrations 😉

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a 302 Windsor V8 in my 96 F150 with 209,000 miles on it and still going.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikec9112 The 302 is a Windsor V8 as well.

    • @brianbradley1985
      @brianbradley1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikec9112 the 351 and 302 are both Windsor blocks the only difference being 351 is 9.5 deck and 302 is 8.2... but you can take heads off one and they will work on the other!

    • @ahmeda3227
      @ahmeda3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikec9112 the 302W and 351W were the most popular engines they powered everything the Cleveland motors were rare and much more used in Ford Australia vehicles

    • @Flathead-fb5tk
      @Flathead-fb5tk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're definitely tough engines. I have a 99 explorer AWD with a 5.0 and I've got 361K on the clock. Biggest headache so far was replacing the water pump just because of the infamous problem of the bolts seizing to the timing cover. Hit them with a little bit of heat and they backed right out. I love my 302

    • @mewrongwayKOCXF
      @mewrongwayKOCXF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats nothing, My Chevy LT1 has 296,000 and going strong, Engine never been opened!

  • @74DuallyVan
    @74DuallyVan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suck at math. But your conversions for the gasket maker was great thanks!!!

  • @charlesgreer2847
    @charlesgreer2847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I watched this now I know exactly the engine I'm building for my 83 convertible.

  • @TekleMeElmo
    @TekleMeElmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is there a list of the parts that’s used for this build? Does anyone have a build list for a 302?

  • @foxbodyguyeightyeight3672
    @foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You blow 3 grand in speed parts but you still use 75 cent cork gaskets for the valve covers.?? 🤔

    • @williamferrante3855
      @williamferrante3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used the cork gasket to give me more clearance for my stock valve covers since I’m running 1.6 roller rockers in my 87 ranger 5.0 swapped, works like a charm if you know how to use it 😂

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They work... especially coated with black RTV...

    • @foxbodyguyeightyeight3672
      @foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BuzzLOLOL lol more like how to make them leak worse 😂😂

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 - After 30 years you toss the old cork gaskets and put new ones on... IF the rest of the engine lasted that long...

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zach Sheffee - Have to watch both of them to make sure they didn't slip...

  • @scottford1091
    @scottford1091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always like to christen my brand new tool boxes with some punch marks from my gasket project...

  • @Teamredneck90
    @Teamredneck90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    dam that's some sweet paint job on that block inside and out ,,😀😀😀

  • @sambrown8224
    @sambrown8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've built several of those mustang motors and the 347 stroker kit with the EFI holley systemax II parts will make 425HP

    • @connorholgerson9557
      @connorholgerson9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did it cost you?

    • @jackrabbit7389
      @jackrabbit7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm this is only a 306ci and makes 402 hp a 347 should make quite a bit more than 23
      Hp more than a 306.

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackrabbit7389 do you know if Summit stroker is good? Or are the parts fragile and won't last?

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally Awesome Build

  • @barryobler9491
    @barryobler9491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Little mistake showing the longer 38 special cartridge as a 9mm, and the short 9mm as a 38. In reality, both of those would make almost exactly the same size 3/8" hole. Something like a 30-30 Winchester or other 30 caliber would be closer to 5/16". Not a bad idea, never really thought of it, but I got a set of hole punches from Harbor Freight many years ago for around $3 that have been great! Made me cringe when you punched the gasket directly on the red painted surface of the tool box!

    • @mattgrimes4542
      @mattgrimes4542 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was gonna point that out about the casings but I knew if I scrolled the comments, it had already been done. Not many gun guys/reloaders are also car guys. You would think so but it's not as common as most might think.

  • @roycampbell5767
    @roycampbell5767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why am i starting to like fords? Gotta watch myself! 😛

  • @calescapee9642
    @calescapee9642 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything goes right in these shows

  • @superkillr
    @superkillr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those oiling mods are old school. People have turned the 302 HARD for years and years without any of that crap.

  • @Chris-zm7wh
    @Chris-zm7wh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah todays episode of "budget" parts cannon

  • @robertroe3695
    @robertroe3695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am I missing where it says which rotating assembly, cam, etc was used. I mean...some part numbers would help

    • @msk3905
      @msk3905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you did he said he used Summit racing value pack but considering how old this video is doubt it’s still available and they used a crane camshaft, crane cams are no longer available.

  • @cobrajet8866
    @cobrajet8866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OUTSTANDING video! No wasted time honing and all the rest. I want the recipe please. Cam Specs especially. How can I get it?

    • @sterlingjohnson5147
      @sterlingjohnson5147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google Powernation blue oval 302. Click parts list.

  • @ferdinandcuevas8457
    @ferdinandcuevas8457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What's the purpose of the lines in the lifter valley? Thanks
    Also please let me know the link to the block preparation video. Thanks again.

  • @jpshade2404
    @jpshade2404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 302(we’ll it’s bored over 30) in my 90s foxbody with a explorer intake manifold, GT40 heads, B303 cam, 24pound injectors with scorpion roller rockers. If I did this little budget build on top of that do you guys think it would handle boost?

  • @danielkustra9071
    @danielkustra9071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Muzzle discipline would've made the next section of this video better.. never point a barrel at you. laying down and unloaded or not

  • @metalted6128
    @metalted6128 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching in 2024, RIP Joe!!

  • @gtrdrejugfde288
    @gtrdrejugfde288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I would love to have that 306 for my 93 ranger.

    • @Nico_Ford23
      @Nico_Ford23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im building a similar motor for my 94

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nico_Ford23 do you know if Summit stroker is good? Or is it fragile parts?

    • @Nico_Ford23
      @Nico_Ford23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarvillarreal8951 I don’t know I used a scat assembly

  • @imjeremy51
    @imjeremy51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, I thought he was gonna shoot the holes in the gaskets.

  • @JosephCowen-fz8vj
    @JosephCowen-fz8vj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pull it and put an Aussie 302 Cleveland in it ! That would have people scratching their heads , Ford Australia made them from 1974 to 1984/5 ! Good running 302 Cleveland in Australia? About $1000 US , as they were hated here as they were swapped out for the 351C , grate engine the 302C , 6 inch fordged rods, closed chamber 2v style ports but all came with 4barrel carbies and manifold to line up with 2v port sizes , slap a set is US 4v 351c valves in those heads and you have the best Cleveland head around , it will fit anywhere a 302w will , same mounts, Bell housing ! It would be a different mustang for sure !

  • @mrt7152
    @mrt7152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Those crankshaft appear to be heated a little bit to much to press fit the pins, personally I would worry about metallurgical changes in the steel. But I really enjoyed watching this episode. Take care guys!

  • @OnionPD58
    @OnionPD58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:02 Shorter connecting rods do not affect the stroke. it just makes the combustion chamber taller or shorter, thus affecting the compression ratio.

    • @GJ-DT
      @GJ-DT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, shorter rod is for longer stroke to use same piston height.

  • @demarrmelton5507
    @demarrmelton5507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cast iron aluminum heads?

  • @justgrazza4638
    @justgrazza4638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Where can I learn more about the oiling modifications you did to this engine, please?

    • @JoseOrtiz-yr9yr
      @JoseOrtiz-yr9yr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, I would like to know this also. Is there a link for the episode where they did this modification. Thanks in advance

    • @toddmccarter45
      @toddmccarter45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only reason I clicked on the video and they barely mentioned it...

  • @michaelcress8767
    @michaelcress8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is nobody gonna talk about the zing it gets in the high rpm

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard that too

  • @RScott413
    @RScott413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are specifically building a 8.2 deck and down to the block just spend the extra money to get the newer Boss 5.0 with the 4-bolt main. It literally fits EVERYWHERE a oem 5.0 does, uses the 1/2" head bolts and with the FRPP water pump never gets hot. Then you can boost the crap out it later to over 1000hp and it won't split.

  • @Powersawjunky
    @Powersawjunky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Been using empty cases to punch holes in gaskets since I've been 16. I must be really smart or really cheap 🤔

    • @cefb8923
      @cefb8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clever

  • @johndeer8000
    @johndeer8000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shorter connecting rods does not increase the stroke only when you include a crank with a longer stroke. @ 1:00

  • @TheMetal750
    @TheMetal750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn great gains, I've built a motor very similar to this but cost me far more than 3k. More like 12k in Australia and that's not even forged bottom end.

    • @boingkster
      @boingkster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm hearing you mate, but it can be done. I'm slapping together an ex-AU Falcon 5.0L block with the GT40P heads and some new springs and exhaust valves to replace the odd rotator system. Couple with some mild home porting, a used intake and a cam similar to the ISKY MegaCam 280 and she'll be a 400hp street beast.

    • @doughavenga316
      @doughavenga316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your going to need something better than gt40p heads if you're looking for 400 hp!!

    • @boingkster
      @boingkster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doughavenga316 Not really. They're approaching 2v Cleveland flow and after a port are very close. Those heads are renound to flow 400hp+ easily. Nothing wrong with a GT40P casting if you do your research on the combo.

    • @MikeFL2TX
      @MikeFL2TX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gt40 heads are fine. Problem comes in if you pay to have them ported. Then the price of that puts you close to a decent set of heads out of the box. If you can port them yourself or don’t mind spending money on a factory head, they are great. Easy to make 400hp with the right supporting parts.

  • @hotrodray6802
    @hotrodray6802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is a 5.0 block and lightweight 5.0 type crankshaft. Not an old 302 type.

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. This motor has the newer 5.0
      50oz balance.
      Not the 28oz external balance..

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No difference otherwise...

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is the exact cam and intake combo i have in 1973 comet GT. What if i were to use Trick Flow R series heads and 10.50:01 static? i am putting this engine in a 1970.5 clone camaro. should i use an XR roller cam like an XR 288 HR10 or stick with the 230* @ O.O5O"? Also thought of building a 429 windsor with 6.4" rods, 1.125" piston, 4.155" bore, 3.95" stroke, and a dart block with 9.5" deck. Same cam and compression. And putting this 429 super cobra jet wizard i mean windsor in the camaro later. its a daily driver pro tourer. rod ratio would be 1.62:01. Well and there is that 631 bbc N/A only, that is iffy on piston thickness at 1.200" and rod of 8" , 4.85" stroke, Dart tall deck 11.625", with 4.550" bore size. Is that do-able for youns ? it has rod ratio of 1.65:01 better than a 350 sbc at around 1.64:01. it would of course be extremely mild for it's size. A great daily driver is all i am looking for, hahahhahah! :o) Or do i use a regular 355 chebby 6.25" rods, 10.5:1 compression, with an XR282HR10 magnum cam, EPS or RPM intake, trick flow 213cc ported heads, and call it quits? OR there is the 370 c.i. sbc with the same although with 6" rods and 1.64:01 same as stock 350 rod ratio, and performer RPM intake. 40 gallon fuel tank in this one.

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds pretty awesome 😍

  • @joseTorres-vr4fe
    @joseTorres-vr4fe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My setup rn is 347 scat kit afr 165 58, 1.6 rollers, double timing chain, billet msd with 6al, rpm2 upper nd lower with stage 2 tf cam

  • @stevohmelike
    @stevohmelike ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite ford engine.

  • @dockey6942
    @dockey6942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boys make sure you vent both valve covers good show you did on this on this show

  • @PreacherDan
    @PreacherDan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hang on. 89 octane!?!?? That’s impressive.

  • @andrewmichaelcrook340
    @andrewmichaelcrook340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andrew from the land down under yeah Australia 🇦🇺
    Mi change is a 6 cylinder in line overhead cam maximum power 2200 bhp

  • @darrellbanks4998
    @darrellbanks4998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's pretty good horsepower for a tiny car Burger. But I believe you jump up to 750. You're gaining quite a bit more.

  • @bluesky-ud9wg
    @bluesky-ud9wg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:42, Cast Iron Aluminum Heads. Wow, never heard of those .......

  • @ViaAvione
    @ViaAvione 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam-Cam, I get it !!!

  • @arcorob
    @arcorob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey guys...great video Two questions. What carb did you use and what was your final base timing ? Was all in under 34 degrees or higher ? Thanks )oh I guess that was 3 questions..lol)

  • @jierdastormcrow
    @jierdastormcrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm doing something similar with an Aussie 302 Cleveland, should be interesting to see how the results line up!

  • @gpt5002
    @gpt5002 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy looks like he’s the one that likes to play with little Timmy’s hahaha

  • @302hobronco
    @302hobronco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Was there a video about the oiling upgrades?

    • @joeschlotthauer840
      @joeschlotthauer840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also wanted to see more on that at 6:37, I didn't know that the 302 had a lubrication issue...

    • @anonymousanonymous9991
      @anonymousanonymous9991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeschlotthauer840 It doesn't have an oil issue when stock, it's actually superior to the Cleveland blocks in that it has 3 oil galleys and not 2. That and the higher pressure cylinder heads made it a better workhorse motor. That said all pushrod motors have trouble quickly moving a lot of oil to the top end especially on start up given that the oil has to be pumped through the pushrods as well as the lifters if they're hydraulic. That's why pushrod motors make so much mechanical noise and are extra violent during cold starts. Edit: I'm also curious as to the oiling modifications. I'd be willing to bet its just a bit of insurance in hopes that the engine will last longer. I do remember seeing a build done by a nascar engine builder who made a similar upgrade to an old Y-block. He also deadend 2 cylinders and turned it into a high RPM v6, so I doubt their reasons are the same.

    • @joeschlotthauer840
      @joeschlotthauer840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anonymousanonymous9991
      Thanks for responding positively...

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liké Joé, he's Cool, he reminds me
    a bit of Don Felder from the Eagles band.

  • @Projectpompeii
    @Projectpompeii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy that he said "cast iron aluminum heads" i just now realized this .... lol

  • @toddavis8603
    @toddavis8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A $3,000.00 upgrade kit! Maybe I'll just watch you guys put this upgrade in."Mustang Sally, u better slow your mustang down!"

  • @roknroy1
    @roknroy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is a great combo of parts to get 100hp more than cubic inches

  • @95Sn95
    @95Sn95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda inflated the increase because You guys were comparing net to gross, the 87-92 5.0H0 makes 225HP (93-95 rated at 215) net but around 260hp gross. Toss all the accessories, intake duct with air filter, maf meter, all emissions junk and full factory exhaust then you can accurately compare them both exact. Dont take it the wrong way thats Still a nice engine id love to have it.

  • @clevelandfox1081
    @clevelandfox1081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That engine would make more power easily with a performer rpm airgap intake.

  • @andrewmichaelcrook340
    @andrewmichaelcrook340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Ford straight 6 cylinder overhead cam barra motor

  • @rickdemorgan8951
    @rickdemorgan8951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use a melling 68a oil pump. 70 psi. Standard volumn.

  • @Izvitoy
    @Izvitoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how someone is packing a snub nose while building engines

  • @scottsutherlin7169
    @scottsutherlin7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video ..😎🤟🦊👍

  • @christopher5585
    @christopher5585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys know what you all are doing. Why did you skip measuring the main bores ? Did you trust how they looked and just assume that the ID was within tolerance ?

  • @Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA
    @Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like silver plated spark plug nipples may be a waste of money, idk?. I think it might make more of a difference if they weren't resistor type plugs.

  • @paulevans2153
    @paulevans2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where’s the video of the oiling upgrade you done to the block?

    • @paulevans2153
      @paulevans2153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still no response. I can’t find the episode of how u did it

    • @paulevans2153
      @paulevans2153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another year later n no response

  • @nagadsby9413
    @nagadsby9413 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As soon as 10 :1 and Ironhead was used on the same build I was out. Cannot use pump gas. Which means you cannot drive on the street.

    • @JohnSmith-ps7wp
      @JohnSmith-ps7wp 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try watching the video. They're running 89 octane.

  • @faisalalblushi374
    @faisalalblushi374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where I can find parts numbers of this combo/recipe? I would like to copy exact same build

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go with a 347ci stroker, makes more power..

    • @oscarvillarreal8951
      @oscarvillarreal8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@P71ScrewHead do you know if this 306 summit stroker kit is reliable? Or are the parts too Fragile?

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oscarvillarreal8951 all depends on what hp limit you plan on staying in.. Unless they're made of plastic, you should be good.. Also, find out your block's limit, n in my opinion I'd go with the biggest stroke possible, there's no replacement for displacement, good luck man..

  • @fordtechlife
    @fordtechlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SB FORD FTW 👍🦊🚗🔴💯🇺🇲🤘🔧👊🔥