The Hyperbolic Time Chamber VS The Gravity Room EXPLAINED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2017
- Training in Dragon Ball Z! What Is the best way to train in Dragon ball z? What methods of training in dragon ball z work best? When you look at Vegeta training in the hyperbolic time chamber or Vegeta training in the gravity room, there is clearly a divide. What is the best type of training in dragon ball z? Is it Gravity training in Dragon Ball Z in the Gravity Room? Is it training in the hyperbolic time chamber or the Gravity room? Let's find out!
Key Moments:
Goku and Gohan training in the hyperbolic time chamber
Vegeta and Trunks trainining in the hyperbolic time chamber
Piccolo training in the hyperbolic time chamber
Goku gravity training on the way to namek
Vegeta and Kid Trunks training in the Gravity room
Goten and Trunks training in the hyperbolic time chamber
Super Buu vs Gotenks in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Piccolo destroys the hyperbolic time chamber
Vegeta gets injured in the gravity room
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What if you put a gravity chamber *inside the hyperbolic time chamber*
How would you do that?
Qaaman's Land capsules lol
Qaaman's Land build it inside
Qaaman's Land bulmas goes in and builds a room inside that increases the gravity
Qaaman's Land capsules. Thats how everything is made lmao
Can't you just fit the gravity chamber into a capsule and bring it into the hyperbolic time chamber.
U would turn super sage path Saiyan blue god 5
Rusty Shackelford fuck you beat me to it xD
Rusty Shackelford I thought about the same thing
Rusty Shackelford it's possible
Rusty Shackelford bulma can capsule anything
Just realized, Vegeta has destroyed both of these while training LOL
At least in the anime.
I personally like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
same
Time Breaker Vision it will make you an old man pretty quick, I prefer the gravity room
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shaolin joe in real world you would be same age
shaolin joe yea XD i want 2 b young
The hyperbolic gravity chamber
What are your reasons?
Pretty sure he was just combining the names lol
Qaaman's Land I saw a comment up above saying it would be a good idea to just bring the gravity machine into the hyperbolic time chamber which would be fking op
DCUO StaticShock99 ikr I gives you benefits of both tranning methods
HN Frosty the room of spirit and gravity
Time chamber ages you, gravity Room stresses you.
and what does stress do? it ages you! *boom* mind blown! lol
When Yamcha tried to conquer 300x gravity it didn't go well.
he couldn't cut it. vegi could. thats why bulma dropped him. she wanted a REAL man💪
😒more like a short angry one lol😆😆
Hamza Adrees YAMCHA ALMOST DIED IN. A FILLER EPISODE
Rico_ Xp lmao
Hamza Adrees he should of started off with a lower number, he would of been able to use it good since he did well on king Kai's planet
It didn't. But I'd give everything I had to be as strong as Yamcha. You'd still be a god amongst any other human.
The chamber is for master forms and the gravity room is for pushing limits.
If Naruto trains in the Gravity room.
There’s gravity inside the chamber the further you go
The gravity pods I'd assume can compact down to a capsule, so you should be able to have both.
Dr.Jekell the capsules external shell wouldn't handle it
the frame can be reinforced to handle 10x gravity making it very easy to have both more time and better results
The gravity chamber outside Bulma's house started as a capsule, so I don't see the problem. You just bring the capsule inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, press the button on the cap, throw it on the floor, and boom, you have a gravity chamber inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Though at this point in the series, they can just go to that dimension inside Whis' staff that he sent Goku/Vegeta to so they could train. They said that place has similar stressful properties to a gravity chamber or the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, so they can just go there to get their "extreme environment" for training now.
Put the gravity chamber inside the room, as others have said. I have always wondered this. Also, grow senzu beans in there, and use dragon balls in there.
i'm not sure what using the dragonballs in the time chamber would accomplish
@@fallenangeldraco3778 the dragon balls would be recharged in a day instead of a year
Nope. DBs wont recharge they work with sun cycle. That s why Namekian DBs recharged 3 times faster than Earth's.
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Imagine if they put the gravity room in a capsule and take that into the hyperbolic time chamber
I'm certain Bulma could modify the Gravity Chamber to allow it to alter the temperature and air density of the room in a similar manner as the Time Chamber (maybe even to a much greater effect) which would make it to where the only advantage you'd have with the Time Chamber is well Time (and even then Bulma could probably modify it for that too, she did create a Time Machine after all)
True and I want to see others (like Tien) train there and not only Vegeta.
What I remember from the show.. If you walk out farther from the portal in the chamber, the gravity gets larger.
Since Vegeta has Barbie form and can bust through the chamber's dimension pretty easily, he can do that without worrying where the portal is. (He might starve though)
was expecting just a "duh the Time Chamber", but you really went in to depth and flipped my expectations and showed the benefits of the Gravity Room. Really well done Quaaman. Well deserved +Like
I always thought the deeper into the vast space of the Hyperbolic time chamber you went the harsher the environment and higher the gravity got. I could be wrong and those could be just my thoughts on how it should work. the idea in itself is dope but really good Video on the subject! loved the comparisons and visuals! peace! (subbed!)
It's nice to see you uploading more consistently over the past few months
Very good analysis! With the facts presented it seems like they both have their advantages kind of making it more situational in regards to which one is "best"
Good vid as always
Great vid man
Hmm.. interesting topic and keep up the good work Qaaman!
Thanks for your support! Which do you find better?
Honestly? The Room of Spirit & Time because of all the benefits it's done for everyone in the series like goku, gohan, vegeta, trunks & goten.
Here is a perk about the gravity room that most don't even realize. Due to how easy it would be to damage or destroy what it is inside, it teaches the people to have more finesse with what they do. With finesse comes control and precision. In a way, it tells people to Git Gud without over doing it.
Good video man
Hey Qaaman!! I love your videos!!
Thanks Tien! What are your thoughts? HTC Or GR?
I've always debated that with myself! D: I'm glad you made this video, it helped a lot x) Great job ^-^
Thanks bro!
Qaaman's Land your welcome! :)
This old audio fit your video better than the recent deeper and slower voice audio
Great stuff none the less
Well his voiced got deeper you know the man is still in his 20s but I see what u saying
Why don’t you use the gravity room, IN THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER!
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this is a very interesting topic. personally i got for the chamber to train
Quinn, I gotta be honest...your voice is of an angel ;(;
goid video and I enjoy this keep it up
Thanks bro!
also a Nifty idea since you can put literally anything inside of a capsule Corporation capsule why not take the gravity chamber with you into the hyperbolic Time Chamber that way you can exploit both the time difference of the hyperbolic Time Chamber whilst under substantially more intense gravity actually a pretty good idea surprised that Vegeta never thought of that definitely seems like something he would do
The problem of the hyperbolic time chamber is the fact you get older faster, so you can get stronger, but also your articulations, bones, muscles and all of that lose in density and quality after a determined age.
Time Room + Gravity Room + Fightning With your serious opponent For Months =
excellent
The Hyperbolic Time Chamber theme is amazing
I would use both because the gravity room makes you stronger and quicker in regular gravity and like 5000x gravity in the room-would make you extremely fast on any planet and the time chamber helps make your body toughen up for any condition like hot or cold
Totally agree with you Qaaman on the benefits of both. As for which one is better,I have to say the choice depends on how much time you have to train. Little time makes the hyperbolic time chamber the better choice. A whole lot of time makes the gravity room the better choice. I'm surprised that they haven't had the idea to wish for the hyperbolic time chamber to have the feature the gravity room has to go beyond the ten times Earth's gravity. I don't think Shenron wouldn't be able to do that although I could be wrong.
Love the gravity room
Great topic, haven't seen anyone else talking about this. Although the hyperbolic time chamber has more benefits overall, the gravity room does provide a serious boost in power. Just look at what goku achieved on his way to namek.
I'd choose gravity training in any instance. I'd be far too afraid to use the hyperbolic time chamber too much out of fear of becoming to old in comparison to those around me. Granted, I know the hyperbolic time chamber has been used as a last resort training method while in the middle of a crisis. So it's not like there really is a choice. Gravity for regular training, time when you need a small boost ASAP.
I thought the reason why the 2nd trip into the chamber didn't amount to much was because they hit a ceiling in what the super saiyan base form can put out. Goku kinda insinuates that when he doesn't want to go back in after hitting grade 4. He figures unless he can break this ceiling then there's no point in going back in. He assumes that both Vegeta and Trunks wouldn't out do him with an extra day because they'd just hit the same ceiling.
Vegeta training in the 7 years after he showed a lot of improvement but I had thought it was because he broke through that super saiyan 1 ceiling and he was once again able to climb higher.
At least that's the way i read the situation.
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Really makes you wonder why they never considered just bringing a Capsule corp ship with the gravity room into the chamber. Though Bulma would have to make sure that it can withstand the chamber's own increased gravity as well as be able to withstand the intense sudden hot and cold changes of the chamber.
You know what would be a Good idea. Put the gravity chamber into a capsule and take that into the room of spirit of time. that way you can get a Year's training in a while and increasing your strength more than it would have :)
If I was training, I do it in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with a special gravity training room in a capcel So that I would train in high gravity, and do it in a short time at once.
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Time chamber for sure for me ;D
I feel that vegeta has been taking it easy for the past 6 or 8 months during bulma's pregnancy, which is exactly what whis said that vegeta should do!.
I hope this few hours in the hyper masonic rhyme chamber would reap the benefits of his training in patience.
i would have said time chamber is better but your video convinced me gravity chamber is better . . plus you can always make bigger better gravity rooms
It seems that the gravity chamber is better for power level training, just becoming stronger and faster, whereas the hyperbolic time chamber is better for technique and skill training, mastering moves/transformations/fighting styles. so if Goku wanted to master his blue kaioken form, he'd use the time chamber, if he wanted to just raise his base power level, he'd use the gravity chamber.
You could easily change the temperature and the O2 levels within the gravity room. Especially if it's the space ship and not some physical room that is built into the Capsule Corp. campus.
HTC/ROSAT: More training in a short amount if time; Better results w/ a partner
Gravity Room: Better results in a greater amount of time; Can increase/decrease gravity; Different kinds of training can be done due to mechanical assistance
I like your idea of diminishing returns. It makes you wonder though, how come they don't use whis version of the room of spirit and time as often? Food for thought
both have perks on one hand one that is a heavy training method for the body since the gravity pushes the body to the limits but on the other hand the time chamber gives something that cant be beaten imo and thats time is slower in the time chamber 1 year in the chamber 1 day passes outside for fast training i would say the time chamber for better training the gravity chamber
I would like to point out that the gravity chamber can be related to weighted training since it increases all of the weight of the person. Also I want to mention that the gravity chamber with weights would probably give the same strain as the hyperbolic time chamber.
I think it's less diminishing returns and more space between power mile stones as you go
Yea, percentage-wise the gains are a lot less but they are literally the same, most likely. Gaining 1000 power level feels a lot bigger when your total is only 10,000. If you're at 1,000,000 power level and you gain 1,000, like you said it's more "space" between the power now so percentage-wise it is a lot less, but the increase in pure numerical form hasn't gone up or down at all. It just relatively feels like a far less meaningful increase now. It's starting with $5 and gaining $5 more every day. At first you're doubling your money and it feels huge, but later on you're just going from 100 to 105 which feels like a tiny difference, but it is going up the same amount every time still. It's basically whether you're talking percentage-wise/relatively, or if you're just talking the objective numerical increase detached from any context.
I'd say that for increases in power the gravity chamber is better but for techniques the only thing you can do to make them stronger is practice over time so the time chamber would be better for that.
You talked about pressure in the Time Chamber, in higher gravity situations, the pressure and heat increases (We see this on some planets in our solar system). However it is never mentioned, only implied, that there is a temperature rise in the gravity room.
No, it was mentioned when goku talked about less air the further you go.
You're not wrong Q, but what I meant to write (but didn't, because I'm bad lol) was that the more intense gravity is (in reality), the higher the temperature. Jupiter and Saturn (and their moons) have more extreme temperatures due to higher gravity. So what I mean is that the Gravity room might have a greater temperature range than we think (at least in a real-life scenario).
My 1st comment was poorly worded, thanks for the comment dude, been watching your channel for ages.
I think it's a lot like real life where you'd like to do different forms of training all the time not letting your body get used to one form of working out.
HTC is better it's. just not something you would use as a regular training session itz more of a realm for a short intense increase
the gravity chamber, in my opinion, would be better because you can turn up the gravity and get stronger faster but if you want to take your time and master your skills then the hyperbolic time chamber would be the way to go but the time chamber is better suited for the Saiyans because of all its elements and for everyone else it would be to difficult to stay in there for a long time
well considering the fact the gravity room is more of a solo training regiment
that comes with built in equipment like those floating orbs that shoot lasers\it helps you keep you skills in check and precise since its as if you where getting attacked
while the hyperbolic time chamber is not as good if you went in alone since you would just be doing standard solo routines
Solo = winner gravity room
with partner = hyperbolic time chamber
id be down to train in the HBTC
Holy shit this is a hard choice
Hey Qaaman! I got a question for you: As we know the fighters can make clones out of themselves, as seen with Tien and Piccolo, halving their power for every clone. In terms of fusion both fighters must be the same powerlevel to fuse but the result is a far greater power. So what if goku uses the clone technique, fuses with himself and maybe does that again? Like what would the result be if you fused with yourself and how strong could that potentially be since you should be able to fuse a fusion with another fusion?
I think goku sums it up really well when he said ‘if you think torturing your body in there (htc) is the same as training’. I think the HTC is just too damaging to allow the user to recover from it consistently
oh god i completely forgot about goku and vegeta having beards in that one episode until i saw this video xD. Also only real benefits to training under the gravity would be 1. obviously strengthening your body to withstand higher gravity but more importantly 2. improving your speed, because training under gravity would be like training with a suit of armor or something irl, like weighted clothing putting down force on your limbs. The higher you crank up the gravity the faster you'll become imo. Obviously if time is an issue then you'll use the hyperbolic time chamber and most likely get more out of it than the short period of time you'll be in the gravity chamber, but the gravity chamber will be better for just increasing power since you can crank up the gravity the more you get used to it, the hyperbolic time chamber will only really strengthen your body to harsh environments while putting you under a small amount of gravity but allow you to train for a much longer period of time
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I think the hyperbolic time chamber vs gravity room is pretty much the same as muscle endurance vs muscle gaining.
One's good if you wanna last longer, the other is better if you wanna get stronger.
I think the main purpose of the Time Chamber is like what the name suggests. Goku and Vegeta have already trained in there. Their bodies are conditioned to withstand its effects. At this point, to them, the Hypoglycemic Lion hanger will just give more time to train.
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Yes... Diminishing Returns!
I think the time chamber is safer and gravity is better because in the gravity room it works ur body harder so ull get stronger by the min if u press the gravity button and in the time chamber the effect starts hard and then kinda wheres off a little so basically wut im saiyan(joke)is time chamber 's strength referes to wut u do
To me, the Room of Spirit and Time is more used to ascend transformations and ki maintenance to prepare for an immediate threat versus the Gravity Room which is used basically to solidify long term what you've gained up to that point. The diminishing returns are very apparent using it. In every instance we've seen the RoSaT used, whether it was Goku and Gohan, Vegeta and Trunks, even Goten and Trunks, the point was to get to that next transformation. These transformations shouldn't be taken for granted, I'm sure it would've taken years to even reach that plateau hence the time skip during Buu arc with Vegeta reaching SSJ2. Goku is the exception as he was dead and trained with other famous dead heroes from the past. He was able to train much harder and further than Vegeta in the same 7 years thus reaching SSJ3. I'm positive neither we'd never see SSJ3 from Goku had he lived after the Cell saga.
Does this really solidify how amazing Gohan was during the Cell saga than if he was not only able to close the gap between him and Goku and Vegeta, but also surpass them to reach the next ascended state?? It's a shame be wasn't able to keep that momentum during the time in between sagas or we might very well have seen SSJ3 Gohan in the Buu saga. The thoughts are intriguing!
The Room of Spirit and Time is what I prefer
Why not get one of the "Capsule corp" capsules that can 'explode' into a Gravity Room on the go? Bring that into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and Bam:
- More Gravity
- Less Air
- More Trained Time In less time spent(like the hyperbolic chamber has always done)
Could this be possible?
well they technically if you get real fancy with it haven't broken any of the rules only two people can enter at a time but it never says a maximum of two people are allowed in the chamber so the first to go in which of course is Goten and Trunks followed by the second pair which was Majin Buu and Piccolo so only 2 entered even if it's a technicality of 4 people going in 2x2 now let's use the hyperbolic Time Chamber episode where Gotenks has to turn Super Saiyan 3 to get out boo manage to get angry enough to actually essentially tear open a hole that would allow him to leave so in that point as Goku and Vegeta having already met their two days so that even though they could not walk out via the door they could in theory do the same thing that Majin Buu and Gotenks did which is tearing open a portal to escape to Earth or back to Earth I should say and being as though both Goku and Vegeta are a full order of magnitude stronger than they were in the Buu saga maybe even to complete orders of magnitude stronger possibly more anywho what I'm getting at is that if Majin Buu can do it Gotenks can do it then the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan AKA Super Saiyan blue could do the same thing because of the huge gap in power between Super Buu and Dragon Ball super Goku Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan so yeah there's a couple ways in which the original rules can be kept without the need to retcon anything. and so in conclusion that this explanation which has actually a fair amount of proof behind it is a solid method of exploiting the rules of the chamber using it however long they want to pretty much until they're no longer power and powerful enough two tear open that portal to get to the other side which let's be honest even Goku however old he is before he dies even say 35 seconds before his death would still be substantially more powerful than Super Buu yay thanks everyone please try to read this I know it's long as s*** but I have some interesting points thank you and the winning lottery numbers are 32 64 25 38 six have fun with that y'all
lol I forgot about the temperature aspect of the chamber. But if when you're not a human it dosent mean much.
qaaman do you think that possibly over using the hyberbolic time chamber could take a toll on their bodies, or just in general have a negative effect in some way?
they you make the time chamber increase everything based on your power level
Hey Qaaman. Do you think humans could make gravity chambers? And if so how many times earth's gravity could we handle?
Interestingly enough, when training in the gravity chamber time should also pass differently
With Kakarot, the gravity room took him from being able to dominate Kui if he fought him, to dominating the Ginyu Force. As for the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, he went from being able to own Frieza (even Mecha Frieza as well as Cold), to being able to own Cell (If he focused of training himself mastering SSJ and achieving SSJ2). What works best depends of what the desire of the one training is.
I'm not sure which is better. Both have their advantages. The hyperbolic time chamber allows a person to train in harsh conditions and it allows you to get stronger really fast in real time. The gravity room allows you to train really hard and you can train in gravity that is much greater than that of the hyperbolic chamber. If you could put the gravity of the gravity room into the hyperbolic time chamber then it would be the ultimate training place where you can train to the extreme and get much stronger in a small amount of time.
just take the necessary parts and build a gravity chamber inside the time chamber then it would be awosme for training!
Gonna go with Gravity Chamber more Safe for Mental health the Time Chamber not like it is now in Super “As a Free Training Spot” without no Repercussions, I like the Time Chamber But only Works in times of need Ex.Cell arc and So Forth. But love the Realism Trunks describes about the Time Chamber,The Gravity Chamber can Crank up and if a User gets bored of it can just tell Bulma to improve it and make it more “Challenging”
Have the Gravity room place inside the Time Chamber could create interesting results
Quaaman I got a question if in real life human trains in the gravity room will they get stronger?
Gravity chamber. Put in weights, set the chamber on the ground and put in a air function with a weather function and the only thing you're missing is the time dilution, but I think that bulma want to see her man train
other than whis the Gravity Room is the only thing that can make them any stronger. but if they make GR more powerful maybe even around the gravity of a black hole. but the GR can only take so much before it fall apart.
What if krillin never fell for Android 18. Or what if Gohan mastered SSJ2 in the hyperbolic time chamber.
I think both of those have been answered already by the Q man
mSsj2 Gohan would destroy Dabura and that might have a butterfly effect where Vegeta never turns Majin. If that were the case, Buu is never revived and Goku would have to remain dead.
Gohan would be almost as strong as Majin Buu in his Ssj2 form (but he wouldn't have his Ultimate form).
But although he is weaker here, he will be stronger in the long run because if he is someone who trained to master Ssj2, then he would be a different kind of Gohan, he'd be a warrior-type individual.
He would attack her and of course fail speeding up the timeline going the same cell vs piccolo, cell absorbs piccolo's cells, and goku wakes up in the hearts virus basically nothing happens. Marron is not born. And nothing happens.
Now would gohan be cocky to cell or get the fight done? It will be a little of both. Gohan would have test cell power out. Cell will think it's over but gohan will go ssj2. This gohan is much stronger. Since gohan was not filled with anger he quickly made ez with cell and killed him. That means goku, king kai, bubble, and Gregor are alive and not ssj3. The events still stay the same. Teen ssj2 gohan will be a little stronger which will give the soldiers much more energy and dabura kill mich faster. And that's all
My toughts. (Almost the same thing what Qaaman said but I answered some stuff)
Hyperbolic Time Chamber: ROSAT is kinda useful too you can train more than 1 month and the temperature is toughing your body well if its real(normal gravity) people cannot last long because of how hot and cold it is. Now lets go back to the DBZ world hyperbolic time chamber might be 10x gravity but if you keep training that gravity and master it you can improve alot the only thing they didn't improve alot was the time when Goku and Gohan mastered ssj that because they're almost in there limit and Goku was confidence it stated that Goku only trains 15 days in the Chamber 1 Hour outside in the real world. It did help Piccolo , Trunks and Vegeta how they rekt Cell. So I think HTC or ROSAT is kinda useful tough.
Gravity Chamber: GC is a small place but the new one that bulma did is kinda pretty just a remote control , and here is a good thing about the GC you can increase the gravity and it makes you heavier which push you to the limit and if you dont wanna fail or lose pride you need some motivation and inspiration which is a good thing. If the gravity chamber is real no one can make in x3 gravity tough it might even kill you. Anyway lets go back in the DBZ world you can add some equipments inside the chamber like Goku did in preparation for namek and he did some crazy pushup and see how he improves fast from him getting crippled his body against Vegeta its better than ROSAT but people vote more in Hyperbolic the only thing I can say why Hyperbolic was chosen because you can take more time or theyre just rooting so Im rooting for: Gravity Chamber:
PS: I just voted for HTC. Lol
If I was a Millionaire or Billionaire I would build both the Hyperbolic Time Chamber(Room of Spirit and Time) and the Gravity Room. Lml!
The Hyperbolic Time Chamber would be one hell of a task though, but I can see it being made. I would have to reduce the 10x gravity because our bodies not only would be able to withstand that pressure but if for some reason we survived and adapted to that gravity we theoretically most likely would not be able to walk on Earth again. Even 5x gravity. As for the intense temperatures that varies. That would be one hell of a machine to build lml! It would have to be as big as an entire town, imagine as big as Manhattan. That's a very big task.
gravity can slow time , that the reason why the gravity room used!
Do you think it would be possible to use both the hyperbolic time chamber and the gravity chamber at the same time. For instance a gravity chamber capsule opened inside the time chamber. And if so would you get the benefits of both or more negative.
I have to say the Hypertonic Lion Tamer is the best one.
this should get a capsuled gravity room and bring it inside the time room
Also, what about gravitational time dilation? The gravity room may actually slow time for an occupant enough that someone training may get "less" time than someone training in normal time. Or would it be more? Confusing.
I personally think the hyperbolic time chamber would be great for mastering ultra instinct in.