THE TIME CHAMBER EXPLAINED | A Dragonball Discussion

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  • The Hyperbolic Time Chamber or The Room of Spirit and Time. Together they describe one of the most important tools in the Z Warriors' arsenal against the forces of evil. We know the basics, but what kind of ideas went into its design? Let's discuss everything you need to know about this remarkable room!
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  • @JoeNeutrino
    @JoeNeutrino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    Toriyama: "I'm a genius! Look at all the backgrounds I don't have to draw!"

    • @justalurker3489
      @justalurker3489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Joe Neutrino
      It's one of those acts of laziness that truly impress me

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This is so true that it hurts but at the same time makes me laugh.

    • @codyburgett7962
      @codyburgett7962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      pfft toriyama started that by giving namek 3 suns and only 100 namekians who are quickly killed so that all of namek looks identical at all times

    • @vankampwn674
      @vankampwn674 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Joe Neutrino it's also convenient because now Toriyama has an excuse as to why and how a character suddenly got so much stronger. He's a total gag writer and I love it

    • @The_GhostWind
      @The_GhostWind 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ... shit, that's a good idea. Tips on you toriyama

  • @rassilontdavros3004
    @rassilontdavros3004 7 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    The real question is why they never grew Senzu beans in the chamber

    • @Namigumere
      @Namigumere 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      RassilonTDavros might be the gravity messing them up

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'd imagine there's something you could do to make senzu handle the gravity. Even if they had only a tiny fraction of the productivity, it would be worth it.
      Not to mention that the plants which were best at growing in the HTC would be more likely to pass their genes on to the next generation (since the others wouldn't make as many beans).

    • @KaiCyreus
      @KaiCyreus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      No sunlight?

    • @john11719
      @john11719 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Because Akira never thought of it. That's why.

    • @PANICBLADE
      @PANICBLADE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cyreus or soil.

  • @Daniel-fd1dh
    @Daniel-fd1dh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Hi MasakoX, I'm a physics major, and I can tell you that Hyperbolic Time Chamber is in fact an extremely appropriate name for the room, in fact I might say it is MORE appropriate than Room of Spirit and Time. You see, Time Dilation is in fact a phenomenon that happens in real life, due to the principles in Einstein's Theories of Relativity. Basically, if you are travelling very close to the speed of light, or are close to a source of extremely high gravity, time around you will slow down relative to objects that are not traveling close to light speed or near a source of gravity. It is because under these conditions, space-time itself begins to bend. Because of the discovery that space-time can bend, scientists realized that we would need to use a different type of geometry to describe the universe. Fortunately a man named Carl Gauss had already developed a new geometric model that was consistent with curving and bending space. And it was called Hyperbolic Geometry. So, in short, it is called the Hyperbolic Time Chamber because it is the principles of Hyperbolic Geometry that allow for time dilation at all. Hope this helps!

    • @dragonanimation2961
      @dragonanimation2961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      WTF

    • @Voltricity435
      @Voltricity435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      200iq

    • @robvillatoro4067
      @robvillatoro4067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dude what amazes me most about what you wrote is not that you told them why its called that, but how concisely and simply you explained it all, while still teaching them a bit of history on the matter. If I had tried to write this, I would have even written the dilation tensors and plotted the graphs to illustrate XD

    • @syntaxerror4926
      @syntaxerror4926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing 👌

    • @crowthewicked8344
      @crowthewicked8344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, I cant focus long enough to read.
      Can I get a shorter explanation?

  • @yamchathewolf7714
    @yamchathewolf7714 7 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Goku being able to survive in the ROSAT as a kid for even a month doesn´t make any sense since it was stated that the ROSAT has 10x the gravity of earth. That´s the same as king kai´s planet and at first Goku had trouble even walking there even though he was much stronger than the Goku who survived for 1 month in the ROSAT as a kid.
    That´s a plot hole I haven´t seen anyone bring up before.

    • @kinrob1
      @kinrob1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah good point. I never even thought about that. Maybe it was (for the sake of plotholes) his body just wasn't used to 10x gravity anymore? I don't agree with that but that't the only way without plotholes lol.

    • @UltimateVegetto
      @UltimateVegetto 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      If I remember correctly, the gravity, just like the temperature in the room, fluctuates a lot. So probably he would just be lying on his back unable to move during those times. Even a normal human would survive 10x Gravity.

    • @greenbat731
      @greenbat731 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yamcha the wolf Hmmm....maybe because he hadnt been in the ROSAT for so long his body adjusted to normal gravity?

    • @SensuixShinobu7
      @SensuixShinobu7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      No, it makes PERFECT sense. It's the king kai thing that doesn't make sense. 10x gravity is too weak for goku to struggle with like he did on there. Also, remember goku had no problem with it as a baby on planet vegeta.... so the king kai thing is the plot hole, not the time chamber. If goku as a baby can tank that gravity with no effort, then why would kid or adult goku struggle?

    • @burgerkingJ
      @burgerkingJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Because sadly no one thinks about Dragonball that much which in turn Z gets away with certain potholes. Like how it was stated that no plane or aircraft can reach Kami's Lookout but Bumla is able to do so in Z.

  • @Falconer13X
    @Falconer13X 7 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I bet Gohan used it maliciously. Finals tomorrow? Pop over to the Lookout for a few extra months of cramming and a good week of sleep.

    • @stargazerequiem
      @stargazerequiem 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Falconer13X that's a really great idea xD

    • @sylendraws1249
      @sylendraws1249 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Just finished High School only took like 40 years

    • @DinoCoke
      @DinoCoke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hey, Gohan.. you look older... and taller.... and have a beard... who the fuck are you?

    • @hankwiththedrip9338
      @hankwiththedrip9338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True

    • @RyanJMills-lf3et
      @RyanJMills-lf3et 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeap… I would learn so much and get so much done.

  • @HontasFarmer80
    @HontasFarmer80 7 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Hyperbolic. The equations of Einstein's General Relativity are 16 coupled HYPERBOLIC-elliptic partial differential equations. So the solutions to the Einstein Field Equations are hyperbolic. One can construct a solution to the EFE's which would create a bubble of space time in which time passed faster inside than outside.

    • @fist-of-doom487
      @fist-of-doom487 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Up vote this!

    • @cloudycloudi631
      @cloudycloudi631 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hontas Farmer +

    • @danrenaydo3787
      @danrenaydo3787 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And as a bonus, it makes a great pun on "hyperbaric oxygen chamber."

    • @venularlyric8266
      @venularlyric8266 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hontas Farmer damn, thats a good explanation.

    • @HontasFarmer80
      @HontasFarmer80 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks ... but did whoever came up with "hyperbolic time chamber" choose the word for that reason? We'll have to ask Funimation why.

  • @Masterge77
    @Masterge77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    No books in there, or internet. It's just that room, and the void (void... void...)

    • @misslejordan6384
      @misslejordan6384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Masterge77 the room...
      oh, hi mark

    • @baselb99
      @baselb99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Missle Jordan 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ghostkaiser1716
    @ghostkaiser1716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I originally call it the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (due to where I live) But calling I'm starting to call it "Room of Spirit and Time"...And also "Hyper-Phonetic Lion Glazer".

    • @greenbat731
      @greenbat731 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ghost Kaiser Hyper Tectonic Frying Hammer!

    • @ruttsuco.804
      @ruttsuco.804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ghost Kaiser that's what makes it hypersonic!

    • @nebuloussaiyan5705
      @nebuloussaiyan5705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ghost Kaiser HYPERPENIS SUPERSTAR

    • @duskbringer4583
      @duskbringer4583 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...Sans?

    • @TBONE_2004
      @TBONE_2004 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, you got it wrong! It's called the Hyperchronic Slime Crater!

  • @snowyinferno
    @snowyinferno 7 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Hyperbolic Chime Tamber

    • @Tuned_Rockets
      @Tuned_Rockets 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      hypersonic lion tamer

    • @waaaaaaah5135
      @waaaaaaah5135 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Snowy Inferno Hypeytonic Mind Chamber

    • @BGAnime
      @BGAnime 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Snowy Inferno hypiebolic mine tamer

    • @Smileynator
      @Smileynator 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hyper Glysemic Crimechamber!

    • @moonraven6145
      @moonraven6145 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hypoglycemic Mind Swepper

  • @JaxBlade
    @JaxBlade 7 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    10:48 PREACH FRICKIN PREACH!

    • @jaydoesstuff3410
      @jaydoesstuff3410 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      JaxBlade Oh shit a wild JaxBlade has appeared!

    • @FlashX212
      @FlashX212 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      JaxBlade notice me sempai

    • @kingtakeo8782
      @kingtakeo8782 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude love your channel

    • @yotacharapone5341
      @yotacharapone5341 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JaxBlade Believe it!

  • @Ccreyescr
    @Ccreyescr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    One time I took acid and it felt like 2 minutes were 2 hours.

    • @KaiCyreus
      @KaiCyreus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's it, the air in the HTC is composed of DMT

    • @biohazard724
      @biohazard724 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ccreyescr ALL THESE SQUARES MAKE A CIRCLE

    • @james-yb5zt
      @james-yb5zt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ccreyescr Like that one scene in DBM (Dragon Ball Multiverse)?

    • @samohtnolslennitsuj6076
      @samohtnolslennitsuj6076 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you only took acid one time? i literally take two hits twice a week. level up every time

    • @Joshua-uo1ee
      @Joshua-uo1ee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ROSAT = Room of someones acid trip?

  • @john11719
    @john11719 7 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Not notification squad, just knows when MasakoX posts his videos

  • @ericfig2005
    @ericfig2005 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    9:52 Maybe it is because since the real world and the Chamber are two different dimensions, the lines on the right and left could be the real world and the Chamber and the line in the middle could mean the door to the chamber and the real world

  • @juant2878
    @juant2878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Trivia. In Latin America is just called Room of time.

    • @jonathankent1517
      @jonathankent1517 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny thing about that is that the lookout already has a Room of Time.
      dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Room

    • @Zanmakenninotachii
      @Zanmakenninotachii 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, because of this, for a long time, I thought that, the "time room" that the Z warriors entered in the beginning of DBZ (to see the saiyans in the past) was the same "time room" where Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and Trunks trained in Cell arc ^^'

  • @sammcguire3798
    @sammcguire3798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    That's what makes it hypersonic gohan

    • @TBONE_2004
      @TBONE_2004 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Goku?

    • @darklordxerinic
      @darklordxerinic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +TBONE2004 Yeah huh?

    • @herostorm4384
      @herostorm4384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Goku
      Goku: yea?
      *Kicks him off the lookout*

  • @moonknight87
    @moonknight87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How proud would I be if my son progressed like gohan? Why I'd have to sing about it.

  • @Yoroiful
    @Yoroiful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Maybe time's just a concept of human perception? An illusion created by...

  • @g1rhines
    @g1rhines 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In hyperbolic geometry, there are sections where triangles have "infinite area". I always assume that if the shape of space-time in the chamber was hyperbolic, then time could act in many different ways.

  • @oralom
    @oralom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember years ago, before the fight between Buu and Gotenks, I had created my own DBZ character for a fan comic that a friend of mine enjoyed drawing during class. The concept of the character was basically, a young fighter traveled to Korin's tower, trained and then made his way up to Kami's lookout. He had a lot of potential to be a "Z Warrior". He trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, but went over the 48 hour limit and the door "relocated" causing him to be trapped in nothingness. He wandered for decades until he sensed strong power levels in the distance. Someone was training. He headed in that direction and found the doors again. However, due to decades of wandering by himself in nothingness, he went insane. It was a fun concept to play with. I even played with the idea of having him be like Master Roshi who could live for hundreds of years and have him be trapped in there for that amount of time to further drive the point of both his insanity and strength.
    On a side note, didn't they mention at one point that the farther away from the door you got, the higher the gravity or am I remembering that incorrectly?

    • @AndresGuazzelli
      @AndresGuazzelli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is, indeed, a great concept. The one thing I notice is a very basic one: if the door relocated, all food and water sources relocated as well. The Z Warrior would die of thirst and starvation rather quickly

    • @oralom
      @oralom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol. That's a good point. I actually hadn't thought of that. I would probably work out the kinks if the chamber hadn't been recon'd. Well.... That and being an adult and all. I miss all the extra free time I use to have.

    • @AndresGuazzelli
      @AndresGuazzelli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Preach it to the choir. Responsibilities suck.

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh boy! A video about the Hyper Moronic Lime Ranger!

  • @Skalias
    @Skalias 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Vsauce, Michael here. In this episode of MindField I'll spend 24 hours in the hyperbolic time chamber, rather, a year.

    • @lucifaerislifeandstuff5181
      @lucifaerislifeandstuff5181 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skalias hey guys it's Austin and today we are going to see if professionals should had rendered most of their stuff with consumer grade Hardware in the time chamber.

  • @Bahaumt86
    @Bahaumt86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn't know Dende removed the restriction of ROSAT. I tought it was a plot hole when Goku and Vegeta used it in Super without any limit. Thanks.

  • @DoJayMi
    @DoJayMi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually like the name of the "Hyperbolic Time Chamber." It just rolls off the tongue better than "The Room of Spirit and Time."

  • @volost5438
    @volost5438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    ur voice sounds like someone on teamfourstar

    • @blueray_2568
      @blueray_2568 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Cato Neimodia and gohan

    • @mahdiali4773
      @mahdiali4773 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Volost do people not get this is a joke

    • @drewbloom_
      @drewbloom_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Gohan

    • @Novataros
      @Novataros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And Gohan

    • @cowboycolts
      @cowboycolts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And Gohan

  • @vampyr-hale
    @vampyr-hale 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Let Goku take Goten in there now. Give them 2 days and Goten walks out Super Saiyan Silver Gear 5. Bet.

    • @Sup-qv8lu
      @Sup-qv8lu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shaady 1 mil

    • @magnussnipples4121
      @magnussnipples4121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So i was going to post some stupid comment about a level of super saiyan so powerful its named using all the words from the page ill link at the bottom, but google wouldnt let post it. www.enchantedlearning.com/wordlist/adjectives.shtml

  • @Unknown-qj9sm
    @Unknown-qj9sm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have a theory suggestion if you want it. What if super sayian 3 doesn't always make your hair long. What if it changes hair length and style based on unused genes. For example Goku getting Raditz's hair when he goes super sayian 3. Because we see Gohan got hair like Ratidz but Goku has Bardock's hair. Of course this would probably mean games like Dragonball heros aren't cannon.

    • @stupidthehedgehog3266
      @stupidthehedgehog3266 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But Raditz had eyebrows.

    • @rayshiotile9487
      @rayshiotile9487 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you know they weren't fake? huh?

    • @rfrbz1269
      @rfrbz1269 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your theory only works since we've only seen two SS3 transformations, both with characters related to Raditz. Since the long hair is only meant to be a visual representation of the immense power of SS3... I don't think we'll ever be able to confirm just why the hair is so long :( I just wanna know where the hair goes after the transformation

    • @theresasteward1506
      @theresasteward1506 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hair length actually never changes, Your perception of the hair shifts as more power is expressed. It is like a curving lens, It also distorts our ability to see linearly around the character thus the Aura.

    • @rfrbz1269
      @rfrbz1269 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suppose adding in light bending phenomena works, but in all reality it's just Toriyama created a convenient way to show the massive increase in power. Besides, Goku's and Gotenks' whole bodies would look distorted if that were the case since the aura is covering their whole body.

  • @RoboJean1994
    @RoboJean1994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know what would be funny?
    If the room of spirit and time turns out to be a connection to one of the other Universes

  • @haroldneto-akin5061
    @haroldneto-akin5061 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What about when krillin flicks boogers at Jackie chun when he has no nose

    • @kawwaii2359
      @kawwaii2359 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The SuperMoo's Wait I call that magic.... Superman is weak to....magic...... KRILLINS BUGGERS CAN KILL SUPERMAN XD

  • @babyjiren9676
    @babyjiren9676 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You kinda sound like Goku from DBZA...

    • @gokou00716
      @gokou00716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      R u new???

    • @gokou00716
      @gokou00716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He is Goku from DBZA

    • @genericworks9092
      @genericworks9092 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hector Arroyo It's a joke

    • @gokou00716
      @gokou00716 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @kawwaii2359
      @kawwaii2359 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Goku Black Are you just stupid or do you not know that he voices Goku for TFS?

  • @ssgoko88
    @ssgoko88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of my favorite DBZ moments is when trunks describes Vegeta's training in the room and how it would catch fire or freeze solid. the imagery and implications really shaped me as a writer and I've found myself coming back to that scene and others like it for inspiration for mystic and slightly terrifying psychological introspection

  • @hoodiechris3155
    @hoodiechris3155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How else got kinda hype when he did the TFS goku voice? 😂

  • @Brandon-kt1qh
    @Brandon-kt1qh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    hydroponic crime chamber. (It grows Popo's weed)

  • @CDBankey901
    @CDBankey901 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We should rename it for DBS dub. We shall call it the Hyperbolic Chamber of Spirit and Time

  • @tysonblah12345
    @tysonblah12345 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "That's what makes it hypersonic Gohan!"
    - Professor Kakarot, Saiyan University

  • @NinjaKIngAce
    @NinjaKIngAce 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the 48 hour time limit, it meant that that they couldn't overuse the chamber

  • @maptongue
    @maptongue 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hyperbolic in this case is taken to mean "Exaggerated."
    As in time is being exaggerated/dragged out.
    1 hour= 1 day.
    It doesn't have anything to do with the mathematical premise of hyperbola.

    • @Sup-qv8lu
      @Sup-qv8lu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reiner_Locke i hour isnt 1 day dont know how much 1 our really is

  • @orsonzedd
    @orsonzedd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just assumed the hyperbolic bit was more literary hyperbole in meaning.

  • @ATADSP
    @ATADSP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the Hyperbolic Room of Spirit and Time Chamber

  • @Randolph_
    @Randolph_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine getting lost in there forever, or the door disappearing on you as you're about to get out... creepy and rather depressing

  • @JimmyTurner
    @JimmyTurner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if they had a time chamber inside the time chamber? Like some sort of chamberception

  • @PlagueOfGripes
    @PlagueOfGripes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Usually in most (better written) shonens, the characters have to create a plan to overcome a special ability the main villain has, so there's no point worrying about power scaling - just "how do I beat this technique?" The Room of Plot Contrivances sums up a lot of what's wrong with character progression in Dragonball.

  • @LoveThisRealWoman
    @LoveThisRealWoman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So one of Dende's acts as guardian of earth is to fix a door...

  • @DaFro3713
    @DaFro3713 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that MasakoX is talking about the Hypertonic Lion Tamer

  • @Ledgire
    @Ledgire 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hyper sonic lion tamer

  • @jasmyslowski8886
    @jasmyslowski8886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    MasakoX can u make a video about Granpa gohan and why he isn't mentioned anymore

    • @misslejordan6384
      @misslejordan6384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jan myslowski many character never mentioned again like hasky and lunch

    • @jasmyslowski8886
      @jasmyslowski8886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lunch i understand but for the man that raised goku to be forgotten, i not know sounds kind of sad

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +jan myslowski Are you constantly mentioning dead relatives?

    • @BlueBoothStudios
      @BlueBoothStudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From the standpoint of human behaviour, Tony Hakston has it down. It would be more strange to constantly mention dead relatives (especially given how long it's been!) than not.
      Grandpa Gohan's legacy is (primarily) Goku, who in turn, honors GG by naming his son Gohan. In that sense, Grandpa Gohan never ceases to be mentioned in DBZ.

    • @donovanulrich348
      @donovanulrich348 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i like the idea of a topic
      but a simple explination could be would you want to remind the fans ("Whisper: Goku killed him") but going back to the idea of a topic i think MasakoX could really dive into grandpa Gohans current roles in otherworld as an explination. but it might not be that long of a video topic cuz there isent much to go on

  • @captainkev10
    @captainkev10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I like it when Masakox makes explanation videos, like these. I cant stand listening to Geekdoms voice.

    • @kawwaii2359
      @kawwaii2359 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Aaaaaallllrighty Dragon Ball fans

    • @captainkev10
      @captainkev10 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super Vegito lol

    • @DinoCoke
      @DinoCoke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      his japanese pronouncuation just hits me in the head like a brick

  • @marcussmith7409
    @marcussmith7409 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so glad SSJ 2 Gohan was so cool. I was really disappointed when Trunks and Vegeta came out of the Time chamber and said they didn't train together.
    What the hell Trunks?
    You can sense Ki and at some point you could tell you were on even footing with your father and the only martial arts training you got was with future Gohan at this point so sparring is part of how you train. He didn't even have to convince Vegeta to spar, just yell at him about being an idiot for letting cell absorb 18 and he'd come full strength. Trunks could've attained SSJ 2 if he kicked the Getes hornets nest and like with Gohan and Goku fighting all out with Vegeta, but fully attaining SSJ 2 instead of a glimpse of it like Gohan as he'd very much be fighting for his life. Vegeta stopping or getting gut punched and knocked out. Coming to his senses and gaining respect for his son and a massive character arc change that we literally are only NOW seeing in Super in reality for Vegeta.
    Imagine it, instead of Vegeta's improved SSJ 1 or Trunks noob balance of attributes SSJ 1 they both were SSJ 2 and now Goku and Gohan knew what to first attain. We could've got a glimpse of SSJ 3 from both of them as they quickly reach Trunks and Vegetas strength.
    Cell games skip to how cell becomes super perfect cell with Goku doing the knockout combo at the start of the tournament. Still wiping out Goku. They all attack together full power but Cell uses instant transmission BS to steal sensu beans and instantly heal and hyper zenkai boost. Vegeta in his arrogance charges Cell alone and is struck down and both Trunks and Gohan use their strength in a combined beam struggle against Cell to beat him.
    Just an alternative way to go about it I think. It would also help explain WHY FUTURE TRUNKS IS SO GODDAMN OP IN SUPER OMG.

    • @rbraunbeck96
      @rbraunbeck96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcus Smith The problem with that is Vegeta's ego wouldn't have allowed him to actually train with Trunks

    • @biohazard724
      @biohazard724 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcus Smith How is that Trunks's fault? Trunks could've fired off a Burning Attack from point blank range at Vegeta and he'd have likely scoffed (whether it hurt or not) and still excluded Trunks.

    • @marcussmith7409
      @marcussmith7409 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it matches Trunks motivation. He did tell Vegeta not to let cell get stronger, and Vegeta didn't listen. The loneliness of the time chamber exacerbating his frustration with his father until he sees he's gotten as strong as his father would be a strong reason why Trunks would confront Vegeta. Yeah it's not really sparring it's Trunks fighting for his life until he reaches deep enough to find the power to save himself via SSJ 2, but it's still something. Either Vegeta trains with Trunks long enough to also become SSJ 2 or he runs off to cry wishing he had even bigger meteors to destroy in space pushing himself through sheer rage to catch up to his son. Trunks base form is stronger than Getes when they leave the time chamber. Cell said as much so at some point Trunks would know he could take on his father if need be.

    • @marcussmith7409
      @marcussmith7409 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're probably right, after nearly killing his son in a rage and getting KOd by Trunks he might prefer to keep training alone to catch up to his son. Goku and Gohan's base form together being higher than Trunks and Getes when fighting cell still showing cooperation and care gives better results than isolated bitter training.

  • @HammerGaming
    @HammerGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm disappointed we didn't get to hear a "HyperSonic Light Saber" in the video..
    don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video!!

  • @fullmetalfoley9058
    @fullmetalfoley9058 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The real question is... is there a muffin button?

  • @MarkERoth
    @MarkERoth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In regards to the two lines that never meet. Picture one line as our flow of time and the second line as the chamber's flow. they are both moving in the same direction just the chamber's moves much faster if they ever truly crossed the stronger/faster current might damage ours. The door acts as a bridge between but I wouldn't consider that a meeting of both lines.

  • @lvolendrungl3362
    @lvolendrungl3362 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It works because mr.Popo says it does..

  • @gerryprovost3932
    @gerryprovost3932 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish you lived in my town Masako so we can go get some drinks or something and talk about DBZ DBS the doctor and other anime

  • @POWERTW
    @POWERTW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Hyperparabolic Manic Gamer....
    Oh and dont blow it up, Dende works for his money.
    BTW regarding timey wimey stuff...I thought Dende made it 3 years more in your life you can spend in there. Not as long as you like. But I guess I was wrong.
    Also, there is internet in there. Goku did some Lets Plays in there. :P
    As for the name they could be using the name for Hyperbole or exaggeration. Or for the math term Hyperbola which is infinite in length maybe pertaining to the dubism that the room has infinite size.
    Anywho a great video Masakox.

  • @DGDNtertainment
    @DGDNtertainment 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:30 ..... actually in the dub there was a scene where Vegeta says "If there is a God, he must be good for letting me live long enough to see this day"

    • @brolytriplethreat
      @brolytriplethreat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DGDNtertainment the irony of that statement with Beerus being a thing

  • @TheMike0088
    @TheMike0088 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    yay, we finally get a discussion about the hypertonic limemember!

  • @OathKeeperRiku07
    @OathKeeperRiku07 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A discussion of the Hyperdimension Chamber? *Wrong series!* Could be.

  • @ElricSowrd
    @ElricSowrd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think Dragon Ball is for kids (Except for the Ocean Dub, Nicktoons and 4kids version) since there are naughty stuffs in the Anime.
    I've also noticed you've been making new Videos EVERYDAY.

    • @magnussnipples4121
      @magnussnipples4121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original dragon ball on animelab (i dont know what dub it is) has master roshi drinking and a porno mag with drawn tits on the front in the same episode, along with literally everything else in both series. Anyone who says dragon ball is for kids is a lier

  • @Cardgames4children
    @Cardgames4children 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The word 'hyperbolic' might be a reference to a type of geometry known as 'hyperbolic non-Euclidean geometry'. It is different in regular planar (Euclidean) geometry, in which the way the space bends "more and more at the ends", kinda like a horse saddle. Such a space combined with physics would probably have special time properties. At least this is how I very vaguely understand it. I'm not sure if it had a relation to the hyperbola curve you mentioned, though. Maayyybbeee.

  • @padairua8129
    @padairua8129 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember reading a cliff notes summary of Chinese mythology and it mentions the Jade Emperor meditating for millions of years outside the universe. I always thought of the Chamber as being like that

  • @punixjp7430
    @punixjp7430 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't want any of the top 5 fighters in universe7 training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber instead they should train with Goku or Vegeta or even better with Whiz&Bills(The God's). I want Krillin, Rochi and Tien training in the Hyperbolic Chamber together while 17&18 either do some training section between them since they are brothers they could make each other stronger or have Bulma and his dad shining updating 17&18 idk something like that. They could also go in the Time chamber but I think is better if they do something special for them.

    • @thelurker8169
      @thelurker8169 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know #18 is a guy.

    • @punixjp7430
      @punixjp7430 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares..

    • @kame8084
      @kame8084 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone

  • @jxvier1397
    @jxvier1397 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    please quit with the cringy hand gesters

  • @Azrael713
    @Azrael713 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the hyperbola bit is pretty simple. one line is outside the chamber the other is inside. they are parallel and cannot meet. however they are on the same plane of existence. no universe no room. it's symbolic of the two timelines existing in the same space but without any contact. that's why buu and gotenks can blast through one to the other but not shout into another universe. they drew a line between the hyperbola. if it was another universe entirely it would be more like jumping to a different page.

  • @BrymalDX
    @BrymalDX 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never clicked so fast on a Masako video, I love the Time Chamber :)

  • @xXImikoXx
    @xXImikoXx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.) I love the video.
    2.) I sat there for like 6 minutes going, "... Goku is from the U.K.?!
    3.) "Hyperbolic" kind of works because it's two different "Time-Lines" transpiring between the Chamber's inside and the Chamber's outside: Time-Line A (moves at a normal rate). Time-Line B (moves at a hyper-accelerated rate).

  • @geeko321
    @geeko321 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyperbolic space is a concept in physics where, in overly simplistic terms, there is "more" space crammed into the same volume as our regular Euclidean space. And we know space and time are interchangeable, as in "space-time", so my head-canon has always been that the Room of Spirit and Time exists in a special dimension of hyperbolic space-time, which would cause you to experience more time passing while in that dimension.

  • @Boredomsjunkie
    @Boredomsjunkie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without a doubt a very well-thought out plot device.
    I'd always sort of fantasize about a villain having access to this as well. Not only to give them the same edge that the heroes had, but ultimately to pit their own will and determination against that of our heroes. When faced with this challenge, would some of our villains lose that drive for dominance? Then again, would certain villains even deign such a meaningless thing like training necessary?
    After all, the diligence of training has always been exclusively for our heroes. The villains either inherently possess the strength they have just...because, basically, or they absorb other fighters like Buu and Cell. The fights would dwindle down to the merits of struggling to overcome these trials juxtaposed to the entitlement of power, or just raw rage in some cases.
    This brings me to the current Super arc. I'm very excited to see this subject broached in the series once everyone realizes that, with a few exceptions I'm guessing, Goku and the universe 7 team aren't facing off against maniacal villains. Everyone here is fighting for their friends and/or for their own survival. Winning potentially means dooming your opponent to a very real and very final end, alongside everything they've ever loved.

  • @AmazingAutist
    @AmazingAutist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mathematical part makes sense. Two timelines, on the same plane (universe), existing side by side but never touching.

  • @TheCrewpoint0
    @TheCrewpoint0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will always love "The Hypersonic Liontamer"

  • @Thund3rDrag0n12
    @Thund3rDrag0n12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about aging? In DBZ, Gohan and Trunks' hair grew in the chamber, and in DBS, Goku and Vegeta grew beards (which was hilarious). So if you spend too much time in the chamber, you age at an accelerated rate, which would cause problems if full-blooded Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta (the main two abusers of the room) didn't keep their youth basically indefinitely.

  • @Tryforlive.
    @Tryforlive. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the two lines thing running side by side probably about the timeline, how you're still technically in the timeline but not on the same timeplane when you're in the chamber

    • @BetaGunslinger
      @BetaGunslinger 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tryforlive think of the chamber as a pocket car.

  • @brink7894
    @brink7894 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think of it as the Two Lines Never Crossing meaning, then it's probably talking about how there's the outside time and the inside time; they are both going to the same destination (in this case the same time period) but never cross.

  • @michaelcaboose8685
    @michaelcaboose8685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the ease of which goku and vegeta can use it perfectly demonstrates their divine power. Sure the room is dangerous for mortals but they've ascended past earthly limitations and dangers

  • @gravuun5753
    @gravuun5753 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For anyone asking "why don't they grow Senzu in the Time Chamber?":
    Gravity definitely is not a helping factor, and the rapid and severe temperature changes that plague the Time Chamber are extremely detrimental to growing crops, and I would have to assume especially so for such a powerful and important crop.

  • @FFKonoko
    @FFKonoko 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget the anime filler chamber. The place Popo takes the human fighters to train while waiting for vegeta and nappa, which was called The Room of Time or The Pendulum Room. Which apparently transported them through space as well as time. Man, that could have been really confusing if they'd named it the Room of Space and Time, we'd have 2 ROSATs.

  • @ZXaber78
    @ZXaber78 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyperbolic has a connotation of separation. A hyperbolic statement is extreme and removed from outside influence. So the name makes perfect sense.

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor3473 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gohan can learn to turn SSJ2 but cant learn to _DODGE!_

  • @Powerman77775
    @Powerman77775 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should make a video talking about the importance of the Champa arc. A lot of people believe that the arc was terrible and that it does nothing relevant to the series. But it actually did quite a lot and without it neither the Zamasu or Universe Tournament Arc could have happened.

  • @TyRiders2
    @TyRiders2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think it's probably the greatest workout gym ever.

  • @spirit1219
    @spirit1219 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st rule of Popos training
    -NO ONE TALKS ABOUT POPOS TRAINING..

  • @karkesyc
    @karkesyc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe should have reviewed that intro.
    Introduction of the room of spirit and time was when Goku just woke up, when Vegeta was still sulking about his loss against #18, Cell was still sucking up people and the androids were still running around.

  • @06yarbrougha
    @06yarbrougha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy answer for those that read "wrinkle in time" in that book they basically pinch space-time together for their travel convenience... A quantum hyperbole.
    This room throws you into the exact opposite. The timeline that got "wrinkled" by their magic. And its almost a perfect anology as there are unstable areas in the void and such...
    If i remember my math right, a hyperbole isnt 2 lines that never meet. Its 2 instances that match X-axis and Y-axis perfectly (in 2-d "the same line") but it involves a z-axis difference (use the ocean as an example. The surface and floor are (more or less) X-Y pairings. But while the surface is "flat" the floor does ALL SORTS of dalliance.... Time outside is the surface, time inside is the floor

  • @KalilMasters
    @KalilMasters 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "oh yeah i remember that time, i almost died."
    then he ends up dying at the end of the cell ark

  • @incarnationofimmortalityta6922
    @incarnationofimmortalityta6922 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyperbolic actually is a vary good way to explain the room of Spirit and Time. Think of it this way. Those two lines as the flow of time while that blank sheet of paper that the two lines are on as space/time itself. In the Hyperbolic processes those two rivers would be compressed and compacted towards each other but never actually changing or touching. In other words you could say the The Hyperbolic Time Chamber, is like a heavy compression chamber, and Hyperbolic is a form of compression.

  • @sirsurr2835
    @sirsurr2835 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Earlier this year in English class we were reading a piece of writing, which was about types of procrastination and one was "Hyperbolic Discounting" which was relating to choosing something more close rather than far away, so you might wanna take the "closer" somewhat like "faster" which could give you like "Fast time chamber" at least when we read the writing I took it as that, but take it as whatever XD

  • @FoxBatinaHat
    @FoxBatinaHat 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:35- Or Vegeta, who's SSGSS form expended in power so much it couldn't be contained either. He destroyed it from the inside during the Goku-Black arc.

  • @MasonC2K
    @MasonC2K 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the bit about Popo sending Yamcha, Krillin, Tien and Chaotzu to a planet in the past where they fought some low level Saiyans. So it's more than just the 1 years in here is a day out there.

  • @userman7861
    @userman7861 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't understand how Piccolo was able to speak to Goten and Trunks when they were training in the HTC. I mean, did they hear him talking reaaaaaaly slow, or was he talking Super-Duper-Extra-Mega fast???

  • @CascadiaHermit
    @CascadiaHermit 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another way to interpret "Hyperbolic Time Chamber" could be the rate at which the Metabolism is increased for the time you are within. Given the stresses upon the body while in the chamber, the metabolism must compensate for the constant damage done to the molecular bonds of organic material due to the increased gravity. "Metabolic Time Chamber" was perhaps the original alternative title, but as a name "Metabolic" doesn't have the universal appeal to a wide audience.
    At the time of Dragon Ball Z's explosion across the USA, "Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder" (ADHD) was being diagnosed to children in staggering numbers (and thus the children with ADHD were stigmatized as dangerous individuals) thus more people would recognize the "Hyper," rather than the "Meta" of scientific/biologic function.

  • @Nirvashicus
    @Nirvashicus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should have had the time chamber's effects grow more drastic the longer a person stays inside. That way it poses a real danger if one stays too long, without having the "door will vanish" thing.

    • @magnussnipples4121
      @magnussnipples4121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, it would have gone away eventually anyway

  • @turb0m0nk3y
    @turb0m0nk3y 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's what makes it Hyper-sonic MasakoX!

  • @NamekuBushi
    @NamekuBushi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to Merriam webster's dictionary aside from the math definition, it means "of, relating to, or marked by language that exaggerates or overstates the truth : of, relating to, or marked by hyperbole: hyperbolic claims"
    In short, it means "Exaggerated time chamber" which does make sense.

  • @ascarlon
    @ascarlon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the german TV-version it's called "Raum von Geist und Zeit", which directly translates to "room of spirit and time"

  • @lilynelson3898
    @lilynelson3898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure that trunks used to train with Vegeta in the gravity spaceship thing. so trunks does have experience with gravity

  • @ruttsuco.804
    @ruttsuco.804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's what makes it hypersonic! Oh hey popo! What are you doing he- *knocked off lookout*

  • @AdvyDeven
    @AdvyDeven 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Masako's opening line*
    *Forced cringe smile*
    That..was..hilarious!

  • @NaRKobBanGTeaM
    @NaRKobBanGTeaM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "cell has just attained his perfect form, the cell games have been announced, our heroes have only 10 days" - tfs be like putting us all in the room of spirit and time just to see us cry for the next episode...

  • @KS-wy6ky
    @KS-wy6ky 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A hyprobola is the cross section (horizontal cut) of a 3d probola(it'up in one direction and down in another, like a potato chip)
    There are more than one way to achieve time dialation. Beside moving really fast, gravity is also capable of such feat as It can suck in space time, and mysticism seems to have an alternative solution to directly manipulate time.

  • @ignisol47
    @ignisol47 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    time is a tool you can put on the wall

  • @godbearxd
    @godbearxd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Hyperbolic time chamber makes good sense. Hyperbolic because it exaggerates time. "Man I spent a whole year in that chamber!" "Actually it was only a day." Time Chamber because it's a chamber where time travels faster than normal. Makes sense to me.

  • @FOmar151
    @FOmar151 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always preferred the name 'Hype Ebonics Rhyme Chamber,' personally.
    The word Hyperbolic probably refers to the meaning 'excess,' from which both hyperbola and hyperbole are derived. The RoSaT/HTC is a dimension of excess compared to normal. Time moves faster, gravity is stronger, etc.