Would Dragon Ball Z Gravity Training Kill You? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)
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In Dragon Ball Z, Goku and Vegeta had to step up their game constantly and train in extreme conditions like intense gravity, but what would that do to a normal human body? Kyle goes over 9000 to find out on this week’s Because Science!
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He can draw backwards without looking. This dude is actually a legend
with both hands*
he is not actually drawing its all in the magic of editing (I think)
He writes normally and it is flipped in editing.
look at the shirt pocket.
Mufti_Menk +
But impressive enough he can do it both hands simultaneously.
Geez, and people give YAMCHA a hard time. He survived 300Gs and once he turned the gravity chamber off, he just stood up again and a little out of breath. If anyone should be hated on for being weak, it's US!
Hero Noodle he’s very weak compared to everyone else but to us he’s a beast
Hero Noodle plus he's cocky that's why we make so much fun of him
If he trained more like goku and them train like them he might be able to stand all of that
Yamcha gets a lot of unjust s***. Never mind the fact that he is the second strongest human on the planet. Only human stronger than him is krillian and only because krillian kept training while yamcha retired. And as a retiree he is still the second strongest and would absolutely destroy any other human with ease.
@@densetsu4286 Tien is stronger than Yamcha. Yamcha mostly have up fighting so this is hard to verify past the saiyan saga but Tien was able to hold his own against Semi-Perfect Cell while Yamcha was totally retired for the most part by then.
Ur already a super saiyan 3. Why bother?
Kaj Hedekar WRONG ANIME
Kaj Hedekar It was a joke :(
Thomasmcfeccco He's not wrong, though. "Plus ultra" is Latin for "further beyond".
Further beyond in db is basically ultra instinct
vegeta is crying somewhere
Uhm... your video didn't quite answer the IMPORTANT questions, which would be: Can a human being adapt to higher levels of gravity, if he trains and ups the gravity level very slowly? Like, 1.001g/day? Or maybe even slower, if necessary? If so, what would be the highest possible gravity level a human being who undergoes this slow procedure could live at? And how much gravity could this peak-gravity-trained human being tank in short bursts? And how much stronger could he get? These are the REAL questions about this topic.
Not entirely, at one point, physics would overcome your body being able to compensate for the effects on your body. Ultimately, it would shorten your life considerably, since functionally, increased prolonged G's would, say, make your vascular system work harder and harder. Your heart would have to pump more to move your blood against gravity, in effect, similar to heart disease. Humans could conceivably live under 4 to 7 G's for a prolonged period of time, but would experience noticeably more health complications in the long run, before they could adapt to it. We are so adapted to Earth's gravity, that our bodies are grown to function under such standards of specific gravities in such tissues and fluids, that any more than that would start doing seriously weird things to the systems in the body. Bone cells for instance are evolved to function under 1G, they have built in biological timers, and some sense of directionality to make sure that they die off if they can't attach to something in time. If they were under high gravity, you start to see very odd development of bones, since the gravity pulls on them during development, this could hypothetically mean the density of your skeleton is either less towards your feet, and more towards your head, or in distal directions towards the gravity, grow more fatter and less uniform. If we keep going higher in gravity, at some point, there's no way for any of the fluid to travel in your body, but even at G's where they could still move, if they get too significantly slowed, like your blood, your cells would probably start dying all over because your blood isn't moving fast enough to exchange oxygen, CO2, nutrients, and waste. Interestingly, gravity would also affect conception as well, it would be harder to be impregnated, and if someone does conceive, the fetus would show many odd abnormalities, due to the delicate system of development that is.
GweiTheLeafChild Huh, okay, thanks for such a detailed answer. And just to make sure, these limitations would still exist no matter how slow the increase in gravity is? So even if a genetically athletic human, at peak condition, trained while increasing gravity in the slowest speed possible, he still wouldn't take it? And what if it was so slow that tons of generations live and die in this increased gravity, and the human body evolves into an adapted form for this gravity? Of course, this would be less than practical, as life spans would be shorter and life would be constant pain, but is it possible for the human being to evolve and adapt to (slightly) higher gravity over tons of generations?
Iron Overheat
They would take it, but it functionally wouldn't offer that much benefits than weight wearing training, and has nearly the same amount of draw backs. Training is actually more effective if you do it regularly, but in short intervals with needful rest in between. Living under super-G would be as harmful as training past your physiological limits without rest, if you plan to do a lot of moving. Plus under regular G, your body works better since it can oxygenate better. As for living under super-G, humans could conceivably adapt under it after several thousands of generations. Though, changes within a few generations could possibly be perceived. Enough constant stresses could change the behavior of some preexisting genes, or systems such as how much of a specific protein should be produced to attain a functioning level for that system to counteract the stresses of an environment.
The short answer is no, handling gravity is a evolutionary trait because the part of your body that is hurting the most is your circulatory system. You cannot rush evolution.
it's like saying a human can eventually live under water if he slowly builds an affinity to being under water over a slow period of time. What you're suggesting is completely rewriting human DNA.
THIS WAS SO AWESOME and INFORMATIVE! :D DBZ was the reason I started training from a chubby anime fanboy getting bullied and beaten up everyday to doing Martial Arts and Weight Training so seeing science applied to my biggest fitness motivation is PHENOMENAL but if we humans cant train at 100 x earths normal gravity at least we can do 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats and 10km of running everyday. All ya gotta do is get it done in One punch, man
Hell yah
jax u here
Drink Cyanide Whats up lol
I just watched your ippo vid, literally right before watching this.
DBZ makes me get off my ass to. every time i watch it i do squats or pushups. and scream. AND THIS, IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER!!!
Thor explaining DB science. I wanted to know about how capsule corp contain large vehicles in their capsules like Ant Man does.
I'm gonna go with it doesn't. The cloud that appears after activation could just be a cloud of machines with a single function, to build whatever it was that was supposed to be in it, and use their surroundings as the building blocks.
The series officially list it as a form of dehydration. It's contents are also given this treatment, allowing for whatever you like to be stored inside. Possible? I dunno.
So it completely removes all the water in the atoms turning it into a small ice and when you click it, water flows in? I think thats right
***** I think it's somehow literally taking the hydrogen out, since it's one of the most common elements in basically everything. In theory that would reduce the remaining mass considerably. Maybe it the takes it from the air to rebuild stored items?
who knows
Okay, so, theoretically, if you trained via the Master Roshi-style and simply lived your day-to-day live at, say, 2 G's, your body would eventually get used to it, yeah? Then after a couple weeks of living like that, you'd take the gravity back down to 1 and feel superhuman. Does that fit the science?
2yrs old but yes. In fact there's more on the moon if we had wings we could fly effortlessly because the moons pull is 1/6ths of earth's and without wings if you were to jump on the moon you'd stay in the air for 3 seconds before slowly coming down this could translate well into training in 2g for a while possible to 6g to feel the same possible effects
@@jayanderson1279 we couldn't fly even if we had wings on moon because there's no air
@@navis2803 i think that this is a hypothetical scenario with the moon having air
@@jayanderson1279 The moon? Nah, there's no air.
In titan however... The atmosphere is even thicker than here on earth and the gravity is even lower than on the moon, you could literally fly on Titan no problem lol
Well this could very similar to altitude training, which most people in the running world now say to live high, train low, essentially you live and spend most of time at high altitude to gain the benefits of increased endurance and red blood cell count, but then train low so you don't get the negatives of low oxygen when your actually running and doing sessions. Probably could do a similar thing with gravity training.
that moment when you realize that he's writing backwards
The Legend27 legend
danielsjohnson god that was a stupid answer you gave 🤦♂️
danielsjohnson LMFAO. Nope, try again.
LMFAO xD
The Legend27 Holy i didnt even notice
I think Kyle is who girls are talking about when they say they want a nerdy guy.
Hard to meet them though when I'm just on the couch playing video games with my cats. -- KH
+Nerdist there is nothing wrong with cats don't let anyone tell you different
he swipes right
You had me dying brother!!!!
Rudolph Kloek hey im a straight guy and I would ha ha
Im subscribed just because of this guy
me to
Same
Me aswell.
Same
He's a big Gilmore girls fan too
Sayains have a natural aptitude for controlling, amplifying, and being aware of their own chi. In the series the characters project their chi out of their body and into things like plasma balls they can blast, they push and move around plasma as well. It would make sense that training in more Gs would be much more than a physical test; it's a test to see if you can keep your blood flowing, organs functioning, etc. by using and focusing your chi while training.
*ki
How it is to be super dead? Is it like a regular dead but they give you a cape?
No it means you died so badly that even the afterlife thinks you died again.
Yes yes it is
That's the quickest Super Sayian transformation I've ever seen. Forget Goku or Vegeta, Kyle is the real Sayian master^^
thats because it didnt take 10 episodes to transform
+Kael Thor Then you haven't actually watched DBZ. Characters like Goku and Gohan eventually learn how to go Super Sayian with no powerup time. They just transform in an instant, they can turn it on and off like a switch later in the series.
DrSmokeTrees has it right for example when goku shows buu the super saiyan transformations up to when we see ssj 3 for the first time.
DrSmokeTrees has it right for example when goku shows buu the super saiyan transformations up to when we see ssj 3 for the first time.
When he fought Super Buu he transformed to a SSJ3 in an instant. He increased the transformation time to by trunks time.
So this video means that Yamacha NEVER had a chance. #yamachad
I do not know this Yamcha you speak of but it sounds dissapointing.
Of course, he is. He is the standard of disappointment after all.
+protoss prelate TFS ftw!
Poor Yamcha...
Nobody screws yamcha but life!
I wish he did a video explaining what would happen if someone had trained their body to progressively get used to stages of gforce like if some slept G1 for 2 days or day then rested and gradually went up and so on.
Actually,G1 is the normal gravity here on earth,so i think you meant G2,but that's just what i'm thinking
I wouldn't mind training at 2 G's. As a scrawny Asian male, I could use the added difficulty.
@@CamJames u just cracked the internet, one more and were out of fourth walls...
Tony the Chang then find your body weight, get a weighted vest with your weight in iron in it, and do push ups
@@zephyr2278 yes someone who understands all you need is a weighted vest
@@zephyr2278 You can punch too and run
Well your scrawny because you can't even handle training in normal gravity
Thoughts on the Nimbus Cloud:
What if... Magic? No, that's stupid. We need a science answer.
What if... the Nimbus is not made of water? I mean clouds in DBZ are white for the most part, except Nimbus which is yellow for some reason. So it must be made of a different material that's been vaporized. Maybe Neodymium and Goku's weighted boots (weighted with a magnet that repulses) floats up on the cloud making it look like he's all pure of heart and stuff when he's just floating on a magnetic wave.
But this leads to a new problem. How is the cloud then held together at different altitudes or at all? How does it propelled itself? What if.... Magic?
Like on Saturn's moon Titan, it has orange cloud. Its probably made of methane, ethane or some such. I mean the clouds on Titan not Nimbus.. :P
Korin had a black cloud so 100% magic
SastnTsukiGaming Of course it's magic. Thor's Hammer is magic. But the point of these videos is how do you make it not magic but science. Magic is a stupid answer.
Cool but then anyone who has those boots can and isn't that most I can't recall
As long as they think they are unworthy and don't use it, then illusion of it works.
I think for human 1.2G's would be perfect for training, just imagine the increased bones density and muscle strength if you train in it for an hour a day.
I WANNNA
Think about how your blood pressure would skyrocket. I don't think it would be safe at all. The biggest thing holding humans back in feats of strength is our blood vessels. You can't make then stronger no how much you train. They can only be strained so much.
@@Shane-un8pesucks being human, sucks being weak
start small and work your way up from there. i think the most one can reach is probably 4 times maybe 5 times higher than normal at the very best
500 lbs on every cells on your body is like getting crushed by a tank
Rich what if u train everyday becomes to used just like normal??
oh you mean trained by insta death
train it's impossible, but i think evolve is possible, like making community in controlled gravity area adding 0,1G for every generation, in 20th generation we can get baby that can play around at 3G
Rich
500 pounds per cell that's like a black hole or very dense neutron star.
Do you even lift bro?
well, now I suddenly geel really weak as a human...
The Wipits but we're also the smartest beings on the face of the planet so to each his own as they say
march madness 2 well I never said hand to hand. That was the " more things probably "
Goku Black :"Ningen!"
@Di Vepets ki don't exist
why would you? its all based on a cartoon. none of it is real.
question. in one piece the character black leg Sanji can spin so fast on one foot that his foot becomes burning white hot. How fast would one need to spin to achieve this?
Fast enough to burns through your skin no real science possible there.
Brian Rodriguez you would obviously have to make the assumption that his body has a higher damage resistance, Y'know like you would for any other super hero
This is a video I'd want to see
Well, I don't know how to even begin calculating a minimum speed, but objects from space reach around 7 km/s which easily ignites the air around them
+Kaotic Zero the friction doesn't cause the ignition, it's the air compressing in front of the object
Hint for next week: Snikt! -- KH
Wolverine?!
No way you're gonna talk about the possibility of his claws Kyle! I wanted to request for some time, but always decided not to, just because I was sure you won't notice it :)
explain how devil fruits (from one peice anime) work
The future is uncertain and the end is always near.
+SAMURIADI YESSSSS
So If I wanted gravity training 2G is okay and 3Gs is the limit, beyond that is bad.
So I got a question, what if you increased the Gs slow enough so your body got used to each stage, like what they do with climbing Everest, going in stages, and if you had pure oxygen to breath could you slowly work your way?
People don't actually understand why the gravity chamber is effective for Goku, and Vegeta in the beginning. It's not because it's great training and making them stronger from the training. Saiyans have a trait where if they almost die they get a boost in power upon recovery. Commonly known as a zenkai boost. Goku and Vegeta get stronger because training in high gravity almost kills them.
Wade Wilson I think 20g cant kill goku because saiyans are used to live on planet with 10gand he trained on king kais planet wich had 10g too
I'm referring to the instances where they went far beyond that and were literally crushed by the Gravity.
Oh like 50-450G
Specifically when Goku was badly hurt the gravity machine malfunctioned and was stuck at 100 before he was ready. For Vegeta it was even higher, but he was just crazy and trying to push himself too hard.
You have to watch a 15 mon long video in which a guy explains ki (it was made by film theory)
what about max human strength? muscle mass, bone density... how strong can you get?
also if you get used to 3g, like blood vessel strength and heart muscle, can you gradually go up more?
yea
Most likely you will just die quicker from overexerting your body after some point. And I don't think you will get much stronger, than if you train in normal gravity.
That's exactly what I thought. Humans are made to adept and grow stronger
By the laws of biology, we must adapt to any environment, whether it's change in gravity or other means. However, like everything else in life, it takes *time.*
Pilots have been flying a lot and have managed to adapt to 9G, while the average human can only handle up to 5G. Through training and prolonged exposer, you are bound to adapt and be able to handle higher Gs, however how long it takes you to adapt to higher Gs solely depends on your body's anatomy. To get to double digit Gs could take centuries if your body isn't good at healing, and if your lucky and have a fast metabolism, it still could take decades before your body can handle double digit Gs.
But since we don't plan on moving to any other planet within our lifetime, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just learn to deal with 1G for now :P
and to answer your initial question, there is no "max" your body can reach in stregth. The only "max" you have is your lifespan. You can constantly become stronger if you constantly train, until you drop dead from old age. Louis Cyr has been documented to have been able to life 2 tons.
If not mistaken, none of the human fighter actually use the gravity machine for training
Yamcha tried it for a second, but he tried to go straight for 100 from the start instead of doing it progressively like Vegeta and Goku did and almost killed himself.
oh yeah, forgot about that guy
when they die in Saiyan Saga Yamcha, Tien and Chaotzu all train on King Kai's planet which is 10x Earth's gravity.
Selvokaz But they were dead....exactly how does gravity effect the dead? Goku had put a ton during the movie training for grand Kai tournament, they don't have physical limitation...but how does putting weight do anything if it doesn't effect the limit...
if they can physically train then physics should still apply to them or there would be no point in training, they didn't turn into souls so they had some form of corporeal body/form. In the world of DBZ if you die and are intended to go to Heaven or Hell you turn into a white small ember or flame, you have nothing resembling a body, powerful heroes and villains are usually permitted to keep their forms for one reason or another, in the case of the dead Z Fighters, its likely they chose the option to train with King Kai and thus got to keep their forms, whereas someone like Chichi and Bulma would turn into the white flame things until they reached heaven in which case they turn into a half corporeal / spirit looking form as seen in the Buu saga.
"It'll either get you super ripped, or super dead"
*GOOD*
The purpose of gravity training is not to simply train the muscles, it is to train the ability to use ki to manipulate the body and protect it from certain harsh environments. within the body of Goku, he is using ki as a sort of pace maker to regulate the body's blood and all of the bodily processes. Which is why when Goku is powered down, he can be killed like anyone else. Ki is used to negate the effects of high gravity. But yeah, any normal human should be dead for sure.
Well just the fact you said trained fighter pilots can handle more G's then a normal person means you could train yourself to handle more. This would be an interesting project once they get this running for the mars mission.
There is unfortunately a limit to what humans can withstand when your talking about long term exposure due to simple biology. Sure 2Gs isn't a big deal for anyone if your only feeling it for a few minutes at a time, but if you plan on actually working out at 2Gs you have to consider the fact that you heart has to work literally twice as hard over the course of the workout session in order to sustain your body. Idk at what point your body will just give out but as you can imagine pushing your heart twice as hard during already strenuous conditions and doing this on a daily basis will very quickly deteriorate your health. Unlike your muscles working out your heart and blood vessels doesn't work out very well
right.. try x500 g.
True that you can train for more. But fighter pilots are expected to move out really quickly for possible combat.
So they don't have that luxury, and they also cannot typically handle it unprotected. Their clothes are basically body armor to protect against increased G's.
flopinator unfortunately, human bodies cant increase their abilities beyond their genetic limits without modifying their bodies via technology. so yes, you could train to stay conscious (but not survive, just stay conscious) more G force but only to a certain point.
shotgun6X Mixed martial artist Bas Rutten's kick producses 100 Gs of force
I'd love one of these. I wouldn't go too high, but between 2-8 G's seems like it could have a lot of use. Different exercises in different levels of G. I think consistently doing that could have some profound health benefits and give you strength gains.
Positive elixir trades, positive elixir trades.. oups wrong video
ObjeQ clash on
1:22 Okay, nice skills. But next video you should draw a square with your right hand and a circle with your left hand.
i got a stupid question that needs answering how does wolverine grow hair also all these squares make a circle
and that one's STILL GREEN!
+TheMasterVictory clever
yes..... just yes
+TheMasterVictory just leave it. you have shit to do.
better question. Can he ever get a haircut and it stays cut?
how does he make these cool videos?
Just train at the lowest levels master it and continue your normal life in earth’s gravity and see how strong you’ll be
Thats what makes me curious
Something like a 3G training in a big donut where you train and live and then returning to earth to see how much stronger you're gonna be(and buying a apartment here in Brazil because yes)?(side note:it's temporary and you're gonna return to the big donut with coffee,bread,rice,beans,snacks,meat,eggs and etc.(including donuts)because you like the big donut because it's perfect for your fitness and health)
Edit:i bet i could rival bodybuilders and strongman contesters
Could the reason why the Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets is because his blood, which is infused with gamma radiation, is pumped quicker so the kinetic energy results in more strength or his energy is converted into mass?
If the above theory is true could this result in the idea that if the Hulk gets angry enough he could be creating so much energy that he could travel at speeds near that of electromagnetic radiation ( 299,792,458 m/s ) ?
You can't explain how Hulk works, because no one knows how Hulk works. Not even in the Marvel Universe, in most Canons, no one understands why Banner didn't just die, or how the Hulk works. No one ever replicates that experiment, except in rare one-shot stories maybe.
Actually, the Hulk gets stronger the longer he stays angry, since anger is a state of mind, not really something you can measure, but the time in which he is angry, measurable, it could be some sort of buildup of energy, so i do not see a problem with the second part of your comment, except maybe that the Hulk will probably destroy everything before that even happens, :)
No because for one thing, your heart beat has a rhythm. No matter how hard it compressed, it would still have a particular pace it pushes blood at. This means the Hulk's strength would follow the same rhythm. He wouldn't for example be able to grapple with someone because his strength would be leaving him in between every heartbeat.
More fundamentally than that, the arteries aren't aligned with the trajectory of, say a punch. For example, you would need the arteries to end in your fist knuckles (with compressible space between the artery and skin) so that it adds to the blow of, say, a punch. Normally though arteries are a circuit and so their force isn't pushing against your skin but flowing back to the heart in a loop, so the force isn't being applied in the trajectory you want.
Also it wouldn't speed up the Hulk's motions, it would literally be a slow, human-speed punch that would hit with normal human force, and then when the blood pumps through, it would force the object back. You would literally be punching with your heart pulse.
Thanks guys! But surely this has to power hulk in som way... doesn`t it?
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Kyle quit trying to science Nimbus. It's a magic cloud
LOL great answer
Also it's yellow, so it doesn't have to be made of water
It's true anything dense enough to stand on wouldn't be able go float.
+Sir Science ever been on a plane, smartass?
+Peer Keller ever heard of fuel and Newton's 3rd Law?
I believe in the future we will develop gravity rooms that will replace gyms o
@Low Tier BBCFactory oh that ride it was fun you had to put your back on and go up while it spun
There needs to be more teachers like you. Making topics so much more interesting when you add your own spin to it. Loved & subbed!
So someone was lik " let's put some small rock shit into a centrifuge and see if it lives"
SCIENCE! -- KH
***** well seems accurate enough next tell us about how the cloud is metal and when u pure ur magnetic
ofcourse not. you'd have to increase it in much smaller increments over a longer period of time but it's actually an incredibly effective training method.
Even so, trained people only withstand 5-9Gs for very short periods of time and that is dangerous. The human body hasn't evolved to withstand that kind of force, even incresing it little by little over a long period of time.
animehbkscm actually the human body has proven incredibly adaptable and you obviously would not start as high as 5Gs. You would start with something as low as 1.5 or even 1.2Gs. Your body will adapt to the new increase in weight as if you were wearing weighted training clothes. in about a year or so, you would emerge and be 1.2 times stronger, faster, and more durable than all of earth's athletes. ofcourse once you have fully adapted to 1.2 you could increase it to 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and so on. each increase would take less and less time to get used to. the real problems emerge when you leave and return to normal earth gravity. if you were to somehow work your way up to 5 times normal earth gravity, then upon return to normal gravity you would move so fast and with so much strength that even the slightest of movements could have enough force to rip your limbs out of their sockets. in short, while this would be an excellent training method the higher you increase the G load the less likely you are to be able to return to a normal life.
Technically speaking, your heart would get stronger as well since it would have to pump harder to fight the new forces. Although you are correct that 5-9 would be very dangerous for most, if someone were to, theoretically, train most of there life in increased gravity (say starting at 15 or 16) then they should be able to withstand 5-7 easily.
Z0mbieTaco absolutely, it would in effect improve every part of the human body. you would just need to do it slowly and very carefully.
Not to forget Planet Vegita has a 10G gravity force, so Vegita (not Goku thou, he was on his planet only as an infant) is able to live in 10G, not only train, so he will be better at adapting to higher G force.
why don't I learn this from school? :(
remember that their ki is a shield that helps them deal with being hit and being scaled through mountains, this could also help them when training
F**k, that was another great episode Nerdist guys... Here, just take the subscription
Thanks Denis! -- KH
ok, I'll address nimbus. It's an artificially intelligent nano cloud. This way it can assess some arbitrary idea of worth, maintain a cloud shape and density, then either harden or use some magnetic field to allow people to stand on it, and then just propels itself
this is just head canon btw
+Tyler Staley Its magic. DBZ Universe has magic. Simple as that.
+DrSmokeTrees db explained goku as magical, but then dbz came around and retconned it. moral of the story, magic is just as yet unexplained science
+Tyler Staley in the case of Goku and the other Z fighters i would think their abilities are more Ki based (half kinetic/half psionic). Piccolo might have a slightly different aspect to the differences and nature of his abilities due to his race.
You don't need magnets. By the time nanotech is that advanced, they probably would have figured out how to manipulate gravitons. problem solved.
To be fair Goku and Vageta aren't human. I mean Krillin never gravity trained. And Dr. Briefs and King Kai both warned them not to, but they still did. So basically King Kai and Doctor Briefs just didn't know Saiyan biology.
And flying nimbus is magic. You can only ride it if you're pure of heart.
Yeah, I just figured you can write it off as saiyan biology is different enough to where they are affected differently. If I remember right, their planet is 10 times Earth's gravity anyway so their bodies would have developed differently to deal with it.
should change the channel name to because saiyans just for this video. haha
If remember right the whole Star Fox crew had the lower half of their legs cut off and replaced with cybernetics keep their blood closer to the heart thus enabling them to survive higher g forces.
Dang really? -- KH
i remember that also. it was explained as the reason why the entire crew had cybernetic legs instead of normal legs.
man! speaking of being dedicated
AHAHAHA, Amputating my leggs without astetics would just make me bite my tongue out and kill me! AARRGHH!! The pain!
If vegeta keeps keeping his pride,Will It bring back harambe?
Stop it. -- KH
Lol bringing back Harambe would be an awesome wish.
I'd love to have my own gravity room :'(
Well, now goku is multiple times universal.
Over time, wouldn't your heart get stronger and help to maintain proper blood flow?
Your body would adjust to the higher G but you would then have problems returning to a lower G. Same issues as negative G loads.
+Tobiah Faulkner isn't that why goku would go back down to 1G every now and then
That may have been the idea in the series but our bodies circulatory systems are just not designed to work in that wide of a range. if you acclimate to higher G's lower G's become an issue. People have the same types of trouble just standing up after being bedridden for just a couple of weeks.
there's always the excuse that they're Saiyans, so their race MAY be able to adjust to a wide range of G's once they get used to it...
it doesn't matter, your organs are still being put under incredible forces. There's no way to train your organs. There's no muscle there.
*before watching the video*
science already prove that the supgravity training has no effect, and also wear your body.
*after the video*
so, who's right?
These guys, Astronauts don't experience zero gravity they just experience less gravity (or less gs) and they lose muscle mass. If you lived on a planet that had twice the gravity of Earth you would be more muscular.
Bramn nl'ndon Ottinger
Jaqen H'Ghar or shorter
Jaqen H'Ghar no no no.
They actually experience 0g.
While they are accelerating towards Earth at 9.8m/s^2, since the station is accelerating with them, you feel weightless.
See fire in space stations. If there was any g force involved, the fire would point in some direction. That is not the case.
In 2 g you would be more muscular? Sure, as long as your circulatory system can handle it.
For most people that wouldn't be a huge problem, but still you will not feel very good. It's better to wear weights, as they won't interfere with your circulation like acceleration would.
It's too bad you can't adapt to pump blood better. Then again, if you adapted, you could never go back... Your blood vessels would explode from the change. You'd need a robotic circulatory system. The Androids could handle it. *Signs up for Gero's experiments.*
If people can endure that, imagine training in it
So if you gradually worked your way up over years would you be able to keep upping the gs. And I mean you are training constantly. Like you are training for *HOURS* every day over years.
chase1146 You could defintly up the gs over time. I highly dount training for hours a day would be effective though as that would probaly be overtraining
yeah but unlike Dragonball Z there is an upper limit to what is physically possible for carbon based life of human size. Human bodies can't improve infinetly. We are bound to our biological limitations and to the physical limitations of our universe. Maybe you can manage to walk in 10 G for a short amount of time if you are some sort of prodigy freak of nature and have trained your whole life for it, but you won't get beyond it.
The Internet hey dude, heard of million years of evolution and species development? Cus if you stand 10 G now, your grand, grand (wow thats a lot of grand) sons will spit on vegeta in the future
You would have to have your children, and your children's children, and your children's children's children, and on and on and on, keep doing that as well, all without leaving this gravity chamber, because it would take generations for our biology to adapt to the steadily increasing gravity.
And then, when your hyper-gravity descendants finally return to Earth and emerge from their gravity chamber, they would die because their body wouldn't be used to such low gravity. Like bringing a deep-sea fish to the surface.
chase1146 Well i think we could go up to 3 or 5 gs without dying, but thats it
This episode was lacking a little... he should've given an example of what would happen to you at 450G's..
+Destiny Darren I want details though! Like from which point I'll be passing out at, to what point my organs and skull will literally begin to crush and implode in on themselves. What does a human look like a 450Gs? Etc etc
DreamJuice420 Oh. Right.
You know how sometimes when a character ragdolls in a videogame, they get stuck in the floor and they just lay there making squelchy noises as they become intimately intertwined with the floor?
That.
spaghettification happens
U go pop
I live for these.
I live for it too Alexander. -- KH
this reminded me of that episode when Yamcha went into the gravity chamber and set it to 300 and "almost died"
2.5x gravity for training? Sign me up!
It would be intersting to try light training methods in such an enviroment, the literally exponential increase in effect should be fun to try out.
We should build a 2g gravity chamber for
Nimbus is Magic. Just let it go
Hey Kyle, have you ever calculated the speed which Master Roshi alone can move? I noticed in an episode of Dragon Ball. When the Red Ribbon Army attack MR's Kame house. One dude fired several bullets from a world war 2 Japanese automatic rifle. I wanted to do the math on that but got really screwed over calculations on average human reaction time and the velocity of the bullets.
Worth mentioning: Race car driver Kenny Brack survived 214 G when his vehicle crashed during a race. It's the most anyone's ever survived.
It really only works for Saiyans in the show because it triggers their zenkai boost over and over.
Is this why Vegeta was always so much shorter? (Because of the compression of the spine)
That cloud is golden. It's obviously not only made of water. Just a little nitpick.
There's actually a comic where Cap and Wolverine go out and get drunk. What Wolverine says falls in line with what you said. He also says their healing factor makes them metabolize the alcohol faster.
The training does make sense, if your body gets used to 3g of training everyday, and you increase that to 4g once your body is used to and increase further beyond then body will have a tendency to keep up with it, wouldn't it?
Yeah, it isn't just the weight of things alone. Eventually you'll hit a point where no matter how physically strong you are, your body just won't be able to send blood fast enough due to the strain. You'd also likely develop some sort of spinal issues from your spine carrying weight it wasn't realistically meant to carry. I'd imagine you could become physically stronger by training in 2-5x gravity, but there would probably be some adverse, long time side effects of the training.
I think gravity training only makes sense in the DBZ world because they can utilize 'ki energy.' I've always reasoned since I was younger that the gravity training must strengthen their ki energy by using it to help support their bodily functions or something.
i think it's possible but the time needed is not days but years, maybe decade or centuries, and it's not by instantly increasing the G but slowly adding Gs over the time, this way, no way you can be stronger but your great great grandchildren might
What about training in some milder circumstances tho, eg 1.3 G or something?
@@codyj6505 Meditate on higher gs to obtain stronger chi for physical training. ;)
0:50 even goku bench press bro
Master roshi explained that only those with pure of hearts can stand on the nimbus cloud.
Love you, Kyle! You make the number crunching of science awesome. 😁
I thought it was 9.81m/s/s
Was just being simple. -- KH
Actually, it depends on where of the planet (How distant the object's center of mass is from earth's center of mass) you are measuring the gravity.
In small variations of height it usually makes 'no difference", but there is a difference between regions.
Not to mention small regions where the rock density of the ground is higher or lower, causing local higher gravity.
he just wasnt as precise. in science we go by precision and he was precise to 1/10
+barshems demgud I wasn't complaining about the precision that was used to treat the topic, I was just pointing that 9.81 isn't the real answer as the viewer commented, because we are usually told things that are not necessarily true and assume they are, for every situation, although things can get really complex if we look closer, so 9.81 could be even worse than saying 9.8 in some especific situations.
everything I said could just be changed to: DO NOT READ JUST THE ANSWERS, ASK WHY, do not just believe in others, use critiscism, do your own experiments, or be aware of the fact that you don't really know that subject, you just have recorded a set of information that was given to you because they thought you could not handle the truth or wasn't worth the effort. ;)
Nothing about precision, I don't really care about it when we are not "designing" something that should really work.
Next how powerful is harambe?
Not very a few bullets took him out .
@@tranquilchaos6980 And he wasn't even strong enough to kill a small child.
There is, however a way to build a training chamber that would do what the chamber in DBZ does without using gravity. Using a chainmail diving suit like divers use when they swim with sharks, and have a gigantic electro-magnet embedded underneath the chamber. The chainmail suit itself would weigh between 50 and 75 lbs and then with the added pull of the magnetic forces it would function just like extra heavy gravity, could be increased incramnetaly and held at any level desired until the training became easy and then increased to the next level. By wearing the chainmail all the time, including sleep and only removing it and dropping the magnetic level to normal long enough to bathe it could do just what the training chamber in DBZ does without all of the nasty side effects of increased gravity.
What if, instead of gravity training, you just workout deep underwater? Get a nice pressurized helmet and an air tank and dive deep enough to where it takes just as much difficulty to move in any direction. It may not be the same as gravity training, but it could produce the same (if not better) results by comparison.
If electo can control and conduct electricity could he control the electical impulses through neurons? Could this enable him to process things faster????????????
Electricity, even under his control, still moves at the same rate relative to the conductivity of its medium. He might be able to more efficiently direct the impulses, but the impulses will always travel the same speed. Remember: electricity is always going to move at the same speed through a substance. Always. Even if you push more through it, it still travels at the same speed.
could you replicate this with weight vests and weighted ankle and wrist straps?
Technically, however, the sum of the added weight would be harmful on your joints if you're not careful. I forgot the technical term and lost my original source, but if you have too much on your ankles, weight distribution turns your lower leg into a sledgehammer of sorts and it can wreck your knee as it's trying to hold everything together. It's not even that much, if I remember correctly, but without the source, take it with a grain of salt.
For reference, I train with a weighted vest/shorts but it's not exceptionally heavy, ~20lbs (or the weight added by 0.11g). I've been looking at shin/forearm weights but even these aren't heavy either, a few pounds total, iirc. The reason for the low weight is that it's constant for 90min, not in short bursts where your joints have a chance to rest.
Ironically, I don't know if I'd recommend it considering the consequences, but do be careful.
I figured out how he writes, if you look closely, the pocket on his shirt switches sides every time he has to write words, so he writes normal, but switches the orientation of the video, so it appears normal.
Yamcha didn’t die that one time...
Whole new respect
How does the Hyperbolic Time Chamber work?
Like this maybe! th-cam.com/video/XJZUQCrN0A4/w-d-xo.html -- KH
+Nerdist what happens if the flash trips
***** How dare you provide me legitimate, useful information on the internet. For shame nerdist.
For the record, while your math is solid I think it is more likely the Hyberbolic Time Chamber takes advantage of Gravity Differential between a pocket Universe, and a less dense, but more more Volumed space. This is to say that considering the interior of the HBTC it is quite likely the Native speed of that volume of space is already quite close to the speed of light. Since you are not actually TRAVELING, but the time of the Space within is compressed, you could get the time differential without involving any equations save those to renormalize.
Just a thought.
It explains the One Day limit, and the Two Day max as it could be easy to imagine suffering a Temporal Benz like effect from the transfer in and out.
so.. what if humans had a small town in space that constantly dealt with 2-5 g 's. how long would it take to make humans evolve to be that strong at birth? given not dying during it before evolution?
Something like that should take a few generations assuming each offspring is retaining mutated muscle strength, honestly the lung capacity when you'd return to earth would probs feel amazing
I would guess hundreds if not thousands of years for a noticeable shift in a population's gene pool. -- KH
They have a gravity unit at most fairs and carnivals, it's the spinning space ship ride. It turns and plasters you to the wall.
Remember when Yamcha used Vegeta's gravity training chamber?
Pepperige farm remembers...
Got it, 3G gravity training. Better than nothing
Yup , that's the way to success
100 push ups
100 crunches
100 sit ups
And a 10k run EVERYDAY is the only way
it's 100 pushups, sit ups, and squats man
+Bishop Gale Don't forget no AC or fans. 3 square meals a day, a banana in the morning is just fine.
You have to work so hard your hair falls out. -- KH
Or u could just get heavier weights
as DBZ fans we refuse to do anything remotely uncomplicated
Well they did have weighted training clothes around later DB/early DBZ
Please do an episode on the Science of how Beerus can blow up a planet with a tiny ball of Ki.
When I was a little kid I used to think that Goku trained in high gravity to get used to Namek's gravity
405,000?? That's it??? Dude Watch Dragonball Super
Physics have nothing to do with knowing the anime or not.
Your argument is invalid.,.
2:07 Wow. Im black and offended.
Jk
This is actually mentioned when DBZ talks about Saiyan's. Saiyan's have the ability to adapt and evolve to the environment of any planet or place they are. It says.this was because they would send warriors at a young age to invade planets and had to adapt to different planets environment s in order to do so. As a result, it is somewhat plausible for the gravity training to work for Goku and Vegeta and the half Saiyan children due to this, for they can adapt to the extra pressure being exerted on there bodies quicker than regular humans.
That dual handed penmanship is tekkers 😂
Wait what? Cell was an organism. He wasn't an "andriod".
OmegaUberDeathbot You're wrong, he was a bio android. :/ Just saying.
TyphlosionGirl philosophy question. At what point is an android an organism?
Well personally, I think the problem is the translation into to English made them all "androids" when scientifically speaking every one of them but Android 16 was actually a cyborg of sorts. And in this case, Cell is an organic cyborg, a mix of pieces that-instead of being mechanical like 17 and 18- are taken from different fighters mixed together in a primordial soup and grown into what we know as "Cell" :3 How this specifically ties into philosophy, I'm not quite sure... I guess it depends on the definition of an "organism" doesn't it?
TyphlosionGirl That's the philosophy question. At what point is a machine a living thing?
Hmm, a good point my dear sir or madam, a very good point. Perhaps when a machine can feel, both physically and emotionally... that's how I think of it anyways.
Noob editor, should've turned him into a ss3 instead.
2 questions:
1) Have you read Kengan Ashura?
2) What do you think of underwater shadow boxing?
Holy shit I remember watching this when it was released.
7 years passed by.... good memories
If you can't take 5 Gs, you need to ride more roller coasters.
Roller coasters have very short lasting G spikes, what we're talking about here is sustained G force. Even fighter jet pilots can sustain about 8Gs (usually less) for not more than 30 seconds to a minute max.
Actually Deadpool did try to get drunk once. He drank an entire refrigerator full of beer and it didn't do anything for him and after drinking it he confirmed that his healing factor does in fact make it impossible for him to get drunk.
I just like watching Kyle write in reverse.
The Nimbus is a magic cloud that only the pure of heart can ride.