I've had this mouse now for two hours and I'm absolutely loving it!!! I hadn't realized just how bad my old mouse had gotten. Thank you for the breakdown. Totally sold me on it.
Amazing! It's just solid right? It's nice to have nice things in life :) I'm still really happy with it and I even enjoy gaming on it. Thanks for the comment 👊
Great, no BS review. You just helped me to feel comfortable about buying the Logitech MX Mouse & Keyboard Bundle. Thanks for your great quality review.
Right?! I love the clicking action and like you mentioned the awesome scroll wheel. My wife has the ergonomic Logitech mouse and it has a plastic wheel, you can sure tell the difference. It fits my hand well but not perfectly, but yeah, for the price, I'm super happy. I think the only way to get better would to somehow create a custom mold mouse which fits your hand...
I recently got the white version as well. Before this I used the Logitech M590, mainly because of the near silent clicking. Needless to say I was endlessly happy when I realized the 3S had really similar clicking. I hadn't realized before how uncomfortable my hand was using the other mouse. This one just "feels" right
My other mouse (on my laptop) is the Logitech Triathlon mouse, and while it's quite comfortable still it's so LOUD. I really love that silent clicking and was surprised just how satisfying it felt. I am happy with that choice, glad to hear you are too!
The fact that this ALSO works as a wired mouse sold me. (Per Logi customer service, "We only have two models that can work both as wireless and wired...the G502 X Plus and the MX Master 3S.") I've had many issues with my Bluetooth mouse losing connection and when I go to Windows settings to toggle Bluetooth off and back on to reset, I'm stuck because I don't have touchscreens to be able to tap the Bluetooth toggle back on. With this, no need to hunt down a wired mouse because it also works as such with its charging cable.
I can't remember if I knew that! I feel like I've tried it and it didn't work but now you're making me want to try it again. I built a new computer recently and I had to find my old Wired mouse because when I'm in the bios the Bluetooth one obviously doesn't work. I hope it does! Thanks for sharing that 👊
@@TheSAHDLife I'm waiting on mine to be delivered, which I ordered based on what Logi customer service said about being both wired and wireless. Good luck to both of us. lol :) EDIT to add: The Logi rep was quite unequivocal and detailed when I specifically asked. In addition to what he said above, he added, "When the charging cable is attached, both mice will work as a wired mice. By the way, both mice use a USB receiver as their wireless connection. The MX Master 3S has built-in bluetooth."
Thanks for watching! It's just a great mouse. I still use it every day. It's comfortable and the battery lasts forever. Let me know what you think when you get it! 👊
Nice! It's just good right?! I know it might not fit everybody's hands perfectly but it's the best that I've ever used still. And like you said the most wheels are just awesome and overall feels high quality.
@@TheSAHDLife It fits my somewhat small hands nicely and very premium feel. It would be nice to have a dedicated slot for the dongle, but otherwise amazing.
I can honestly say, this mouse is absolutely awesome. I have large hands and upon using this mouse from day 1 my fingers and wrist felt so relaxed when using, with zero fatigue when using it for extended periods .The Logitech app is excellent for customizing your functions. Even with the higher price tag, its worth every cent.
It's tough to recommend things like mice as they fit every person differently, but once I used this (after trying many others) it felt like a pretty safe recommend since it is so good. It's not perfect but compared to the competition it seemed like it's on another level. Glad you loved it too 👊
So my work computer doesn’t allow me to install software. Can I setup the software on my personal computer and then plug it into my work computer and the settings carry over?
Hmmm that's a good question. I don't know the answer and am not sure I will be able to test that for you anytime soon. You can customize it for each app which I'm sure you'd need the software for, but as far as customizing the buttons to act the same on every computer... I'm not sure. Sorry mang!
Thanks! Yeah I still love it and use it everyday! I do have a felt one in my TH-cam studio that I like too. I can't tell which I like more, but either way they are great 👊
Thanks for making this! I had been researching a non apple mouse for my new Mac mini, and this one had been talked about, so I looked for a review on you tube, and hey presto, you had made one! In truth your reviews are always 110% bullet proof and sincere (no matter what the product) , so I think I am sold! Greetings and thanks to you (again) from jolly old England ! In fact, I took out You Tube Premium based on your review alone, and I have been happily paying since, though not through buying it via apple! 🇬🇧👋🇨🇦
That's awesome! :) I'm glad you found the video and yes, I am still happily using the mouse right now! It really is a great product. I do my best to make each review I do not only interesting but honest... no affiliate program in the world is worth it over being honest with products, so I'm glad that sincerity comes through in my videos. I really appreciate you saying that. Let me know what you think about the mouse! I think it's still great but I built a gaming PC and sometimes wish the mouse was lighter for that... but I actually prefer the weight of the 3S for daily tasks, so maybe down the line I'd get a 2nd mouse. Cheers from Vancouver Island 👊
@@TheSAHDLife Hello again! My mouse arrived today and it arrived with 60% charge. I like the feel of it immediately and I liked the swap between the free spinning and the graduated spinning for the mouse wheel. I have made the horizontal scroll my volume up and down so far! I am ten minutes in to the use and I am glad I bought it 🙂
@@richryan8904 Oh that's awesome! What a cool use for that mouse wheel. I do use the horizontal scroll which is nice for video editing but what's sweet is you can customize it for different apps. I'm glad you are enjoying it :) 👊 thanks for letting me know.
I pulled my old G700 out from junk storage (stuff that is still good, but needs an inspection for repair before discarding), which had the double click issue that started years ago. I finally just repaired it with some new switches, and it's good as new again - the G700 is a joy to use for either gaming or for work, and I had been using it for work before it started failing (you don't want to be dragging an email window then have the mouse suddenly click the send button on its own!). The hand shape was just perfect. The weight is substantial and after seeing the inside, it's very high quality. The G700 was what Logitech was going to do with their gaming mice before they decided to start marketing the cheaper feeling and thinner housing mice as part of their gaming mice family for the sake of 'being lightweight' with 'adjustable weights'. I'd imagine the MX Master 3s has a pretty similar feel to the G700 due to its shape- the shape is just very natural feeling, while the device itself is extremely high quality. Maybe I'll pick one of these MX Master 3s mice!
I never had the g700 but it looks good. Does it have the silent clicks? I'm on my laptop right now with my Triathlon mouse and... while I like the shape, it does NOT have the quiet clicks of the MX 3s and I miss it so much. I'd be very curious to hear what you think of it! I love it for a bunch of reasons... it might not be a great gaming mouse but I think it's just so well rounded.
I bought this for work. I’m an insurance agent so my entire day is on the computer. I LOVE THIS MOUSE. I will never by another. The scroller is life changing. I love the hand placement. I have no problem with it but I guess that would vary with the size of your hand. Their old wave keyboard is also the best thing for working. It’s definitely louder but I like that. It’s so comfortable to use and the calculator button is just awesome. Love Logitech.
Nice! Yeah I still use mine everyday, I'm using it now! Logitech really does a good job don't they. I mean the mouse isn't perfect, but it's the closest thing I've found yet. And even though it's expensive, it's not THAT expensive for a tool that we use everyday and helps us do/enjoy work better. Thanks for the comment.
The 1st high end mouse I had was a Logitech MX-1000 and I loved that mouse. It was comfortable, lasted a long time on a charge and the mouse lasted about 10 years. Then it got to where it wouldn't hold a charge. After that I just bought the little cheapies until today. The last cheapie mouse I bought lasted maybe 2 years, now I have the MX master 3s and so far I'm liking it. I hope it last like the mx-1000 did.
Nice! Logitech seems to make good stuff. I've been happy with everything I've bought from them and actually just yesterday I picked up their Pro X headphones and they are fantastic. I'm still rocking the 3S as well and love that too. Edit: Just wanted to add it holds a charge for months of daily usage.
Thanks for the lovely presentation for the mx series keyboard and mouse. I was first looking to get a decent quality (quiet) keyboard, and when I came across that Logitech MX Keys Mini, your video has definitely conviced me, then I ended up getting it together with the mouse Logitech MX Master 3S, this combo's quality in terms of several aspects, but mainly ergonomics (on the mouse) was way too appealing not to have it. It was easy to blindly trust you on this mouse, without having to do extra researches, cuz I knew you already did it for us, so I really appreciate that !
Thanks! I really appreciate the comment :) Have you received them yet? I'd love to know what you think of them. I ended up selling the keyboard when I sold my computer and I still miss it. It was great. I am still rocking the mouse, it's just so solid and the battery lasts forever.
Just using the set since a few days, and it is indeed a lovely experiance. One can definitely feel the premium finish, i'm especially impressed by the keyboard btw
@@tun1to Oh good. Glad to hear it! Logitech has nailed both the silent click on the mouse (you can't go back to a normal mouse!) and the touch on that keyboard. I loved it too and was surprised by the value. It's nice to have quality stuff. The mouse fits my hand 95% and I still enjoy it. It's heavy which I think is nice for productivity and accuracy but a little slow for gaming. I still use it for that though. Plus the set looks nice too. Though it would be cool if they had options in that realm 👊
hey hey, i'd want to make a lil update, i've been using the mouse since about 25-27 days, so far no operational issues or similar, but battery life is currently 25% after just 25-28 days of use, even started lagging somehow, is this a normal behaviour ? My expectations were that the battery life will last longer than that, what is your opinion, because I requested a return for the mouse, btw the keyboard is absolutely fantastic and no doubt my favorite, and is at 80% battery life so far...
@@tun1to Thanks for the update! Yeah that does seem like it's dying a little sooner than it should, but without a couple power cycles it's tough to really say. And what kind of usage are you doing with it? Full-time working every day or just using it sporadically? I don't keep track of how often I charge mine but it feels like maybe every few months? Enough that I'm happy with it and know any other mouse would be the same. Glad you're loving the keyboard though. I miss that thing.
Oh sick! It's nice right? I like the keyboard too, I have the mini version (without the num pad) and it's great. The battery lasts a long time too. Super happy with it! LOVE the quiet clicking.
I actually hate it due to the low polling rate. I find it brutally slow and laggy even compared to 15 year old wired mice / keyboards. Everything else is great, but they need to put a good sensor in it.
I just bought a MX Keys S keyboard today and it's the best keyboard I have ever used. Judging by the quality of the keyboard I'll definitely get the mouse at some point because it seems like Logitech just knows how to make a good productivity boosting computer tools.
I just rebought the MX keys mini this week too since I love that keyboard. I have a very expensive custom keyboard as well which is nice and its own way but to be honest I kind of prefer the Logitech ones.. for the price it's just hard to be. Glad to hear you're happy with the quality. I still am loving the mouse but I've been gaming a lot lately and it's a bit heavy for that. It still works well enough but I guess in a perfect world I would have two. It can't be beat for productivity though.
Even better my friend, I reviewed those lights on my other channel! You can check that video here: th-cam.com/video/_YKvcQ8yBwQ/w-d-xo.html They are rad!
Retired, I have a rare form of muscular dystrophy called OMPD. I went to my neurologist, and not only do I have OMPD, but carpal tunnel in both hands. I don't have any pain, but like you, I found out that we often look at a mouse as a 10 dollar device. I also use a mac, and loved the apple mouse. I still use windows as well and took a chance on the MX master 3s. The ability to set it to high dpi.(less wrist moment) is a joy. Also the ability for a smotth scroll wheel, not notchy is a personal joy. A 100.00 bucks for it is high, but it is well worth it. You young people, don't buy a cheap gaming mouse. Your hands and wrist will tank you when you get into your 60's like me.
@@TheSAHDLife It is perfect for me at hi dpi setting. Also I bought a 3M mouse pad from amazon, bet 8 dollar investment as well, does not fry, and is very slick for mouse movement.
Thanks mang! 👊 Although it's all changed / gone! We moved and I sold that monitor. However I'm in the process of setting up something new, hopefully it'll be even better lol! A lot of work though. Still rocking the mouse and loving it! What about you? What mouse are you rocking?
Im still rocking my mx master 2. Almost 5 years now, i want to upgrade but my mx 2 still works. I love the ergonomics of this and side scroll is a thing i never i knew i needed until I got this.
Haha that's awesome! Sadly I never was exposed to this mouse until the 3S but I'm happy that I finally was. I do have to say though, the silent clicking of the 3S is just, well I don't think I could even have a mouse without it now moving forward. I'm not sure if non-Logitech mice have this feature yet, because if they don't, I think I'll be sticking with Logitech for awhile!
I really, really, really want to like this mouse. I am a videographer/editor by profession and 90% of my desk time is working with a mouse, so it is really important for me to have something that fits my larger hands and, almost more importantly, has a great button setup. I finally spent more than twenty bucks on a mouse about a year ago (Logitech M720 Triathlon) and enjoyed its size. It has been very comfortable, but I have been techno-lusting over the MX Master. So I finally got one this morning. Is the MX Master comfortable? Hell yeah, it feels great in the hand. But after using it for about five hours today, I became really annoyed with the button layout, which is actually less functional than my Triathlon. The Triathlon, like most Logitech mice, has a left-right click feature on the scroll wheel. This is super convenient because your finger is right next to the wheel 99.9% of the time your hand is on the mouse. The MX Master does away with this and gives you a horizontal scroll wheel by the thumb. Its placement sucks, even on a large mouse. The kicker? My Triathlon is about $70 cheaper, has the same hand comfort as the MX Master, and has a way more efficient button layout. I urge anyone thinking about getting the MX Master, or anyone who feels buyers guilt about wasting $99 on the MX to try the Triathlon.
I too have the M720 which I showed briefly in this video (53 seconds in) and that's funny, I don't know if I've ever used the left/right click on the scroll wheel! What do you have it programmed for? I suggest you use the new mouse a little more... when I go back to my M720 now, the loud clicking gets annoying and I long for the quieter more subtle tactile clicks of the MX. I do really like the Triathlon mouse too but I also find it just a tad bit short. I imagine though unless you custom build a mouse for your hand, it would be easy to find shortcomings in any mass produced mouse. It's tough, it's such a personal choice right? I would feel comfortable recommending the M720 for the price, like you, but think the MX might be a safer long term bet for a wider range of people. I'll be curious if you feel the same way in a week or two. Do let me know about those buttons though!
@@TheSAHDLife The scroll wheel on my M720 is set to "Forward" and "Back" which I use on websites and anything else that has a back or forward arrow. With Logi Options+ I have application specific settings to scroll my timeline forward or backward when I am using video editing software. My finger is right next to that scroll wheel anyway, so this is much handier than the horizontal scroll wheel. The horizontal scroll on the MX Master is a great idea, I just found myself doing way to much hunting for it to where it was more of a distraction to use than a useful feature. The clicks, I don't mind at all. I actually kind of like that satisfying little click sound with the pleasant tactile click. Anyway, I took the Master back and got a refund. Just couldn't get used to it and, ultimately, it didn't make my editing life any easier or add any value for the money. Nice hearing from you!
Thanks for the comparison to gaming mice. I'm also mostly using my mouse for work (from coding to Adobe stuff and the accuracy comparison helped) and some very minimal gaming. Your video helped me decide between a quality precision gaming mouse and this one!
@@TheSAHDLife You mention in the description recently optimizing your workspace, do you have any videos on that? I found the Samsung Odyssey review - funny enough I'm also considering that right now to replace my 34" LG Curved - plus your YT channel help videos so thanks for sharing. I'm also trying to take small steps in becoming more organized and productive and use more ergonomic tools for my everyday life, hence the interest. Again, thanks for sharing.
@@real-j-anderson Thanks for watching and the support, I really appreciate it! Do you mind if I ask why you are considering replacing the 34" screen? We actually just moved and I ended up selling my 49" screen. It was neat but I don't think I would buy it again. I'm not actually sure what I will get next. I will be going into my new space in June so will definitely be making more videos about setting up and optimizing my workstation / office space. We are in a crazy transitional time in our lives so I'm really looking forward to creating some awesome, thoughtful videos in the near future. I do bounce around with my topics a lot as you can tell but like to create cohesive groups of videos eventually!
I just got the 3S Graphite, fortunately after being made aware that the Pale Grey (whitish) turned yellow after use. This isn't my first Logitech, I have the G502 Lightspeed for gaming and I remember having the first laser MX1000 back in the 2000s. The 3S' hump is a little high for my hand and my hand size is more average than small but it's not a deal breaker, I just have to move my hand further forward to have a better grip and palm rest position. This is my daily driver mouse for web browsing and work, not for gaming, so its productivity features really helps - it's productivity-focussed button assignments, the thumb rest for prolonged usage and the winning feature for me was the battery life. My wireless G502 had to be recharged regularly and for daily use it was an annoyance. After getting the 3S, the 502 is now used primarily for gaming along with my Razer Basilisk V3. The near silent mouse clicks was also a godsend for night-time usage as my PC is in my bedroom and its near silence was needed in order not to annoy the missus.
Sounds like you have a nice little lineup! Yeah I agree, it's not 100% perfect but it's the best one I've used to date so I'm still happy with mine. The silent clicks are still incredibly satisfying a year later and are still my favourite part.
Thanks! It is the Deity D3-Pro microphone. Usually I boom it above me but had it in the shot there. It's great for the price point. The only downside is you have to turn it off and on every time you use it. I bought it used and think that's a great way to buy it if you can to save a few bucks!
I'm glad you found the video! Yes it's an awesome mouse, I still LOVE it. In fact I might sell my windows computer and switch to an Apple... and if I do, I will re-buy this mouse in the Mac version lol. Let me know if you get it what you think!
Does this mouse come with a usb dongle? I want to buy this mouse but I'm hesitating cause I don't know if it comes with a dongle please let me know thanks!
So, mine did NOT come with the little dongle. You mean the little USB connecter right? It seems like others have received it so I'm not sure if it's just the one I bought or if it's different outside of Canada... it's a great mouse that has good built in bluetooth but yeah, the dongle would be nice if it came in the box.
@@TheSAHDLife Thank you for the reply I'm using a macbook pro so every usb port counts I only have two on this laptop. Since it doesnt need the dongle and can connect with bluetooth I plan to buy it soon. Thanks again great work!
@ZeBlaZeD so I just sold my MacBook Pro... And while the most worked with it through Bluetooth I don't know if it was because I had the non Mac version, didn't feel quite as smooth as it should be. Like it is on my Windows machine. I did have the windows version of it which I was using on the macbook so maybe be sure to buy the Apple version of it. I'm still really happy with it though and I'm sure you will be too!
Hi mate. I´m SAHD too hahaha. I´m not on TH-cam though, cool to see others like me on TH-cam. I like your channel, just discovered it. Good quality. Good luck on your TH-cam journey. Robert
Nice to meet you fellow SAHD! And thanks for the support, it is really appreciated. The TH-cam thing is fun... it is very rewarding at times but it is always very grueling at times. Have you thought about doing it yourself? I'm always here if you ever want to brainstorm or just, you know, chat SAHD stuff :) I have double daughters (now 5 & 8)... you?
Haha that is the insane 49" Samsung G9 Odyssey! I did a video on it because it's absolutely ridiculous. I have since sold it and bought a monitor that's better for my workflow, but boy that one was fun.
My only issue with Master 3S is its polling rate. 125Hz simply doesn't cut it when many displays have a refreshing rate of 144Hz. Make its polling rate 1000Hz, and it would be the best all-purpose mouse ever.
That's really interesting. When I go to this website: cps-check.com/polling-rate-check It averages between 135-140hz. My monitor is 144hz and to be honest, I've never once noticed that the mouse might be the bottleneck. It's always felt smooth but I'm not a competitive gamer. I do play shooters once in awhile though and it feels fine. But I've also never used a gaming mouse. Thanks for the share!
Had same effect with the MX Master (one, without a number). This product line is a game changer, especially if you use multiple machines, or often are on tour. its also robust.
Cheers! Found this video to be super helpful. Excited to receive my Logitech MX Master 3S tomorrow. Quick question, if you don't mind sharing, what camera did you use to produce this video? The quality was excellent.
Well that's exciting! Receiving new tech is just the best :) Do let me know what you think! And I appreciate you saying that about the quality, I've been working hard to bump up my game. I am using the Sony a7iv as my main camera. I believe in this video I was using the Sony 28mm F2 for the lens, however, I have upgraded to the almighty Sony 24mm F1.4 since then, oh baby! If you are interested in camera stuff I actually have a separate channel where I talk about camera related things. You can check that out here: www.youtube.com/@thesahdstudio
Loving the mouse so far! The mouse shortcuts are a godsend while editing videos 🙌🏽 Ah, the Sony A7iv is a beaut and the quality is next level indeed. Appreciate the info! Keep up the good work man 🎉
@@lojo6047 So glad to hear that. I'm still really loving it too. The quick clicks just sound and feel good. Thanks for the support 👊have an awesome weekend!
Great video - I was wondering what that wheel above the thumb was for. I've been using an Ergo M575 trackball mouse for a while now. I'm a recently retired engineer and I want to get into using CAD (Fusion360) and possibly light gaming. Do you think this moving mouse will be more precise than a trackball? (Only issue I have had over the years with the trackball is when copying the screen with dragging I sometimes stop the drag early due to the trackball.)
Ok, if you use a trackball mouse your brain is wired differently than the rest of us! Haha. That is a difficult question to answer. My first question would be what kind of gaming would you like to do? That's the ONE area I would say this mouse is not great in. It has a relatively low polling rate and isn't the lightest. My techy buddy said the Razer Viper 3 Pro is fantastic but he's a first person shooter gamer. I play Path of Exile 2 which is a lot of clicking and moving the mouse around too... I love it for comfort but think maybe a smaller lighter mouse WOULD be better for gaming. This mouse is hard to beat for everything else though. Also I would say the MX Master 3S fits better with medium/large sized hands... so if you have smaller hands I'd probably suggest something else. Our Bestbuy has it on display so perhaps you could go try it out first? Let us know what you get or think of it!
Is the bluetooth poll rate is only 90hz for mx master and mx anywhere? That will cuase cursor to look laggy on screen on high refresh rate screens will it not? Can you test that please?
hi. everyone nice to know you all, i just brought mx master 3s, i face some problems,, can i know the led battery indicator on the mouse, is it always on? or only light up for few sec when connected with pc
Hi Alex, nice to know you too! I don't have any LEDs on my mouse, so that must be just while you are connecting it. Does everything else work nicely? Do you have Logitech Options+ installed?
I first bought a wireless unknown brand "gaming" mouse but it was like a piece of soap and way to small and light, I have small hands and still it was waaay to small and did not fit... So I went back to the store that has a 1 month policy of return no questions asked and got this Logitech 3s instead and it fit me perfectly and feel great in my hand with the perfect weight and grip.
I find it has enough for my video editing needs but I'm an amateur. I use more shortcuts on my keyboard side/left hand than with my mouse. I have a couple on the mouse though. Fair enough though! What mouse are you using now?
I just built a new computer and... well luckily I had an old mouse with a cable kicking around, because you're right... I wouldn't have been able to set up easily without it! Buuut I still love this mouse and am using it right now!
That's a good question. I would say it's still great and worth the cost. Black Friday is right around the corner and there's a good chance it will go on sale so maybe keep your eyes peeled for deals? I still use it everyday, it works great, I have no complaints, and the silent clicks are the only way to go. For some gamers it might be a little too heavy but I don't mind gaming on it! Still 9.5/10 mouse going into 2025... I can't really see how they could improve it much besides somehow making custom shapes for different sized hands.
Yeah I still think it's a great mouse! Not sure where you're buying it from but worst case scenario you can return it if it isn't as good as you hope. It still seems like the top one that most creators use so I think you'll be happy with it.
Master 3s is very good and ergonomic, but what I found out is that the scroll wheel is so unprecise :(. especially when i am drawing and want to scroll exactly I have problems...
Since I switched to Mac recently the mouse wasn't working great. I found an app called LinearMouse which has enabled me to adjust all the scroll speeds etc and it now works much better. Maybe if you're on Windows, you can find an app to do that same? Not sure if you tinkered much in Logitech Options +?
I bought the G502X lightspeed after 3yrs of using the MX master 3 (not the 3s). I got used to the horrible scroll wheel of the MX, now I'm rehabilitating from that with the new G502X.
@@TheSAHDLife actually yes!!! Both scroll wheels in the MX Master 3 do this weird thing, where they misregister how you scroll so you end up having a very clunky scroll experience. The G502X lightspeed, doesn't have a second scroll wheel, but the primary one has a sideways tilt mechanism for horizontal scrolling, in my opinion leaps and bounds better overall scrolling experience than the MX. Also and this is something I discovered recently because I'm a first time gaming mouse owner, being able to control DPI on your mouse (the MX has a 1600 fixed DPI), is just amazing. I use the G502X for productivity only but my screen is a 34inch ultrawide so by increasing the DPI to 2500 I can traverse the whole screen much faster and with significantly less physical mouse movement (this DPI adjustment also affects the scroll wheel so it increases scrolling speed) . The MX Master 3 allows you to program the buttons Per App! Which for some people is huge. The G502X doesn't have that, but allows you to save MACROS in each button, to me (a +12hrs daily Excel and PowerPoint user) this option is far superior than the MX Master 3 programable options. I know people praise the MX Master as a productivity mouse, but for someone who's willing to actually take the time and play around with the logitech's G-HUB software, the G502X for productivity can run circles around the former. My 2 cents in case this info helps :)
Hi. Do you notice any difference (especially in term of connection/lag) between bluetooth & usb receiver? Thanks for answering and keep up the good work.
To be honest, I don't. I game on this mouse and edit my videos with it and have not noticed the slightest lag while using it on Bluetooth. On my laptop I have a USB connector and have switched between it. It's the same. Hope that helps and thanks for the support! I appreciate it 👊
Trying to figure out what the S part is. I have this mouse without the S - I do know I've worn through this mouse and another like it. That silicone thumb switch, wears through as I use it to close apps. And it has a hole in it again. Wondering if a complex gamer mouse would be better, or spend another $100 on it again and wait 4 years again for it to fail too...
It's the quiet clicks... and they're awesome. I still love this mouse but I've started gaming on it and while I still quite like it for that, it really doesn't feel like that's its job. I'd probably opt for a lighter mouse if you know you'll be doing lots of gaming. I can't vouch for the thumb switch though... do you mean that small button on the button of the thumb rest?
I’m an engineer and work on CAD and PDF markups all day. I got this mouse from the technician that worked at the company before me so I never even bought it. Amazing mouse. Customizing it for different applications is great so I can switch between programs while keeping the actions mostly the same. Also side scrolling is a godsend when working on huge Excel sheets!
Right? It's just better than your traditional mouse... I'm not saying it's the best mouse out there. I haven't tried that many... but once you use it after using normal mice, it just feels on another level and it's hard to go back. Love the silent clicks.
Thanks! Honestly if you just go to Amazon and type in big mouse pad world. Or full desk mouse pad world. I also have a felt one which I really like. But I still use the world one and love it!
Hi SAHD, thanks for the video and your replies to the comments below. I wonder if you'd share with us your recent experience overall about the mx 3s. Is it still comfortable and precise after a year. Thanks in advance.
Hi! Yes it's still fantastic! I use it mostly for video editing and photo editing and it's just great. I enjoy the weight and the size of it. You can game on it but it doesn't shine if you're playing twitch games.. otherwise it's still definitely the best mouse I've ever used and I still recommend it!
@@TheSAHDLife I appreciate your quick response indeed. I just ordered one from Amazon after watching your video. I will use it for all office applications like Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. I will support my work by editing video content. It seems to be one of Logitech's most valuable and ergonomic mice. I hope I'm right. :)
Good call. That would be fun. I've been gaming more lately and I want to upgrade my mouse, so check it out. It would be neat to get a bunch of compare them side by side. What are you using right now?
I own the previous G502 for many years. At work, I have the beloved but discontinued G604 (hotswappable AA batteries, many months of battery life, more buttons but not too many). Nothing beats the G604 in my opinion, that's why I am so afraid of it breaking one day. If it does, well it's MX 3S (no mechanical scroll clutch) or G502X so that's why I need a reviewer hahah
I just got my mx master 3s yesterday and it is not smooth as trackpad or my cheap generic wireless mouse. I can't say it is laggy but it has tiny stutter. Do you also experience this? I tried windows, mac, usb, bluetooth(all combinations) but result was always the same.
Really!? No I don't have that at all. I do photo editing which needs the mouse to be precise and it's great... Same with gaming, it's wonderful. Aww man, maybe you got a defective one :( Yeah I would take it back or exchange it. How does it feel, do you like the design?
@@TheSAHDLife Thanks for you quick reply. I contacted logitech and they decided that the mouse is defective after I showed them the screen record of the cursor. It can noticeable even from the screen record. I opened a replace ticket on amazon. I will let you know about the new one. I really liked the design except the thumb botton for the gestures. I think it is little hard to do the gestures but it's not a big deal for me and I just can't enjoy of the full capabilty becasue of the stuttering :/
Oh that's good I'm glad to hear. Yeah to be honest I never use the gestures button... Maybe I will eventually. It's funny because I have the Logitech triathlon mouse and only once I got my new mx3s mouse did I realize there was a gesture button on my old mouse lol. If you do remember let me know how it goes once you get the new mouse!
@@TheSAHDLife Amazon sent the second one immediately. I got it today, tried it few minutes ago and the new one also has the issue. I uploaded the video that I showed to logitech support on youtube. You can check if you want to see the issue. By the way I haven't return the first one yet, now I have two latest and greatest defective mx master :D th-cam.com/video/idNIvJmeBAM/w-d-xo.html
What the! And you get those same results testing it out on multiple devices? Hmmm that's really strange. Well I am flabbergasted my friend. I'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience for you... I feel like I've let ya down 😭
That's a crazy looking mouse! The 3S isn't really a gamer mouse as it's quite heavy. I still game with it but it wouldn't be my first choice for that. For editing though it's fantastic. Not perfect for everything but still good.
Is this mouse still recommended/relevant 2024? Im looking for a new mouse. Either this or logitech ergo one.. I figure i might by one for home or my office to see if i like it or not. If i like it i might buy one for home/office aswell. Mouse used at office is a wireless standard logitech mouse without a thumb button for back. I really miss that feature. So that is a little bit annoying. Mouse came with the logitech K860 keyboard/mouse combo. Im looking for a new keyboard for home aswell.. have been looking at either the MX keyboard or maybe the ergo.. but the small keyboard in this video looks kinda neat too. What kind of mousepad/mat are prefered/recommended? i know it comes to personal opinion and usage..
This mouse is absolutely still worth getting. Just make sure you get the 3s because that has the silent clicks which I feel are much more satisfying than the original 3. I did like the MX Keys myself but I would recommend the mouse 100% And the keyboard depends a little more on your usage. I'm considering getting an ergonomic keyboard at the moment myself. As far as for the pads go I'm looking into getting a felt one as I think it would have a nice gliding action. They're pretty reasonable price on Amazon but again like you said it's personal preference.
Yeah you bet. They are the IViSii G2. I actually reviewed them on my other channel if you want to check 'em out: th-cam.com/video/_YKvcQ8yBwQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n2nwPjQG1-JILGfm
So, I had that problem when I used the MX Master 3S on a MacBook. When I use it on Windows, it's smooth like butter. I'm not sure what computer you are using it on but just thought I'd share. It should not lag at all. On my Windows computer it feels like it's plugged in it's THAT responsive.
@arielantebi7476 do you use it on a laptop or a desktop? My desktop has a little extender piece You put on your desk that boosts the Bluetooth so maybe that makes mine even stronger... Although it really worked well on my last windows laptop. I know you can use a USB dongle that helps but I think you have to buy that separately which is annoying. Also to maybe make sure to have the Logitech options and make sure the most is up to date. Just want to make sure you enjoy it and get the most out of it since it is such a sweet mouse! 👊
@@TheSAHDLife I use the USB that came with the mouse, and again, it works good now. Hopefully the problem won't come again in the future. Also, is it normal that the scrollwheel makes a sound when the magnet is on?
To be honest I don't even have a USB dongle. I can't remember if it came with one (it might still be in the box). If I get a chance to check or play with it I'll let you know. I'm happy enough with it's performance... I have pretty average use for a mouse although I do some precision work within Photoshop. I'm happy with it. Although for video editing I wouldn't mind a lighter mouse. This is still the nicest one I've ever used.
thanks. unfortunately i encountered another MAJOR problem. to use it and set it up properly you need Logi Option+. to use this "tool", you need to approve "input monitoring", which basically allow Logitec to record your keyboards input. I contacted logitec and they told me that they record only special function as gesture and hotkeys but, trust is not there for me. i work from home and handle highly confidential data. i don't want an external company (logitech) to potentially record my inputs on the keyboard. therefore i just un-installed it, and i'll sell the product. too bad as the mouse itself is GREAT. i currently use the old version, the MX master 3 (without the "s") and this one does NOT require this online monitoring nonsense....@@TheSAHDLife
@@Ares310788 That's interesting. Such a different perspective I would never have considered. Yeah it's tough when you just want to use the product with no strings attached! I just love the silent click of the 3S so much. That feature alone would make it hard for me to go back to any other mouse without it. Sounds like you got a decent setup now though!
yeah kind of... the old 3s that i have is, pretty old. 3-4 years of usage and well, the mous eis degreded a lot, plastic coming off and such. but again, used daily for work, around 9-10 hours everyday so, for the usage done it lastes quite long. i'd really like to use the new one but well, too hifh risk of breaching some "walls" with work so.... yeah. honestly, i really do not liek this kind of "we force you to accept this or you cannot use it" thing.... it's bad, very bad.@@TheSAHDLife
For those looking at this as a gaming option the polling rate is very low. So it won’t be ideal for games that require fast reaction like shooters or moba
For sure! For casuals like me gaming on it is just fine. I played High on Life / Halo, and it was sufficient. I could see a lighter/gaming mouse would be better for long sessions but for guys like me, it's just fine. I've been playing Diablo 4 which is lots of clicking and it's been great!
I would recommend it, I come from the wired Steel Series Rival 3. And with this mouse i'm much faster responding in FPS games. But with a dpi of 4.5K of course.
That is a good question my friend but unfortunately I just don't know the answer! I can't see why it wouldn't work if other similar mice do. I'm sure you can Google it or find out on Amazon comments
My first mouse was the logitech pebble. 3 years later I upgraded to the graphite logitech vertical mx which was super cool. I wanted to love it as much as I love this new Logitech Mx Master 3S I bought just a couple of weeks ago but it's hard. This was sort of a random purchase at Best Buy as I deep down wasn't 100% receptive of the "handshake" design in the vertical compared to the Master's more traditional feel. On top of this, the horizontal scroll is game changer for some apps like excel or enterprise systems. The only gripe I have is a buyer's remorse as my set-up is largely black/dark themed with RGB Chroma and I snagged the white version and I was too lazy/excited to return it haha. Oh well.
Also, the silent but satifying click works great with my new setup too. I had the nice and clean white Razer Pro Keyboard I bought 3 years ago with the Pebble. Wanting to start RGB, I got it and realized it did not have RGB. Ran with it, and enjoyed the annoying clicks for three years, it did increase my productivity. However, now I started working more and more with colleagues and clients I moved to a quieter system. My new black Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro with RGB with linear red switches are great for my current set up. The ONLY FLOWER I MUST give the Vertical MX would be its CRISP and all too satisfying vertical scroll, however it's click sounds like a microwave going off at 1am compared to the master mx 3s.
lol yeah once you go soft clicks it's hard to go back. Everything else sounds SO loud in comparison. I had a nice little Anywhere mouse but had to ditch it because it was too loud.
I use the bluetooth connectivity and it works great. I just asked a commenter in my other video the benefit of using a wireless receiver vs bluetooth so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back to you lol
My main mic is the Deity D3 Pro. It's great but it doesn't turn itself off which is annoying. I haven't sound treated my room too well but when the mic is close it sounds great! What you rocking?
🤣 haha awesome. If you remember please let me know what you think when you get it. It's so great, I hate going back to anything else after using it. Thanks for watching 👊
Man, you sure know how to persuade lol, you got me! I was confused between Logitech MX Master 3S and Logitech G502 HERO (which on sale now 50% off) ? Which one would you recommend? I don’t do gaming but mostly for work, long online research and video editing! Right now I use Logitech M325 wireless mouse which I was given from work few yrs ago! Now it’s going to be my first mouse shopping and I wanna end up with something worth buying and can stay for many yrs to come… thanks for your appealing review style
Haha glad you found the video! To be honest you really can't go wrong with the Master 3S. It's almost perfect. The other might be better for gaming, but ultimately based on what you said it seems like a no-brainer to get the MX... plus if you buy new you could always return it right? Heck buy BOTH and return one! lol
@@TheSAHDLife I think that’s the best way to go, once I try I’ll see which one feels close to my heart lol. I bought Mac Mini M2 Pro last week, didn’t open yet! I hope it’ll work with it better. Thanks for your feedback
@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 Oh snap, that's exciting! I've been thinking of making the switch to a Mac myself... I'll be curious how it is for you. And let me know what you think when you get your new mouse 👊
I notice there's a Mac version and a Windows/Linux version. I use both Windows (for personal) and Mac (for work). Would I get away with the Mac version on Windows? I am not buying two different units!
Here's what I found on the topic... Mac version: no dongle & USB-C to USB-C cable Normal version: Logi Bolt dongle and USB-C to USB-A cable I have the Windows one myself and since making this video, sold my Windows desktop and bought a Mac laptop. It works great on the Mac. So no, you don't need two.
MX Master 2s is better for the following reaons: 1: Side scroll buton is at the side of the two buttons and you can rest your thumb on the bottom to use it, you have to lift your finger on the 3 - a bit silly 2: its a smaller size than the 3 - the 3 is more arched MX Master 3 has silent clicks which I like a lot, last longer, usb c, charges quicker - maybe I just need to get used to it but the 3 hurts my hand a lot, the 2 not at all
I totally agree about the scroll on the side. It's not in the perfect spot. The size is a tricky one for sure... I feel it 90% fits my hand which is great. Unless you made a custom mold I can't really see a mouse fitting everyone much better than it. It's the silent clicks that are the real clincher for me. I can't live without that now. Too bad you can't have the best of both worlds.
Nothing special. I'm still rocking an old Ikea chair which I've had for... 15 years? It was about $200... I think you can get the newer version for (inflation) $299? If I had to buy a chair right now though I'm not sure what I would get. Save up for an Aaron / Herman Miller? Can they be as good as they seem? I have no idea :)
The thing i HATE on this Mouse is the clicking sound of the scroll wheen. I use Blender alot and you have to use the scroll wheel alot. And it is horrible
That is a great point. I agree with you! It definitely is horrible. Luckily I don't need to ever use it because if I did I think I would baby rage a little.
Yeah usually. I'll say the price with tax included sometimes but taxes are different everywhere so it's tough to state with the prices in each area. I find mentioning the price on usd people can easily kind of convert it in their heads .
The best ergonomic mouse for me and I challenge you! I have used a lot of mice and I run mice on a monthly basis in order to test the issue. Luckily I found a mouse so comfortable, so fast and so light weight that if they decide to invest a little more in it, it's going to beat Logitech's mice! And this mouse is from the HP company, the name of the mouse is hp professor1, it is the mouse with the best ergonomic shape I have ever seen, and if they add a magnetic roller and a side roller, I assure you that it is the best mouse in the world!😁
That's awesome! It really looks like they modeled it after that mx3s which is great! If they can make it even just a little bit better while keeping all the good things about it it could be a real winner. Thanks for the share, I'll l keep my eyes peeled for it.
It is the Very Mesh Office Chair from Haworth. I bought it used and while it's awesome, I wish the padding was slightly thicker. Other than that just fantastic!
Do you mean the vertical mouse in the video? Or is there a separate handshoe mouse you are referring to? The one in the video my wife got isn't for me... it also doesn't quite have the high quality finishing of the MX Master 3s. Different things but I think for ergnomics, hand comfort, and overall usability I much prefer the 3S.
@@meirgoldenberg5638 When I Googled it there were several with different designs so I wasn't sure which one specifically... but yes I saw this thing and it looks crazy. It looks like a Stingray! It looks slippery. I'm using the MX 3s now and it has a beautiful matte finish on it were that Hippus looks like a cheaper plastic. It might be great though! Also the scroll wheel looks nothing special. At the end of the day it's the design that matters... if I would have had the chance to test the Hippus, I would have. It's at a pretty expensive price-point and has a lot of competition. Are you thinking about it?
@@TheSAHDLife I have been using it for quite a few years now. You rest your whole hand on it and your hand does not touch the table. I decided to look at other options because the left button started to give problems. However, I have cleaned it inside it's fine!
That's awesome, I love it when you find a piece of interesting tech and it lasts for years! Do you use a mouse pad, if so what kind? Also what keyboard do you use?
It was the Very Office Chair from Haworth. I got it used for about $350 CAD. It was great BUT I felt the seat cushion was a little too thin. I ended up selling it and am still on a quest for the next best chair. I'm currently using my old Ikea one. It's still great like 15 years later...
@@TheSAHDLife haha awesome man, i bought a vertagear "gaming" chair maybe 4 years ago, mm, immediately i didnt like it but i was pretty much stuck with it due to ordering it online. it kind of fell apart way faster than i was expecting aswell, the most annoying thing is the spring for the back adjust snapped, i really need a new chair, once you find the perfect one def make a video for it if you feel up to it! i am still looking myself lol
i was thinking herman miller but it might be out of current budget, might be a good option down the line edit: looking at them tho, i dont really like how the arms are not adjustable, so the search continues 🫡 def was thinking of just getting that iconic ikea chair everyone reccomends by default
@@SereneRalts it's hard to beat the price or durability of the Ikea one... have you considered a Secret Labs? I sat in one once and it was fantastic. I don't know if I would order it blindly though. Part of me would rather go the Ergnomic route buuut I'm sure the gaming chairs would be dam comfy!
@@TheSAHDLife i have! they look really nice, my current one is a gaming chair, my only gripe is the racing ridges on the side that hold your shoulders in place can kind of get in the way and feel cramped in certian positions
Honestly, I just plug it in to my computer to charge with the usb-c charger I have for my phone. Leave it overnight and it's full then lasts for months! Wish I had a more exciting answer lol
I absolutely hate logitech MX Master 3S. I much preferred razer basilisk because it had such a much better software, it integrates with the OS, meanwhile 3s needs for the windows to fully load for it to work and the software modification for each app is a nightmare.
Luckily for me the only program I need to customize it for is my video editing one and it works fine with that using the Logitech options app. But yeah if it doesn't work for your programs that could be a total pain. The mouse has been great for me but mice are just so custom for so I get that it's not for everyone.
The problem with these productivity mice is the weight. 141 grams in 2023 is absolutely insane and once you start using something like a G Pro X or Deathadder v3 Pro it's impossible to go back to a mouse like the MX Master (though I historically always used those mice and still have an original MX Master)
That's a good point. I guess it really depends on your experience with mice and how you like to use them. I like the weight when I'm doing things like editing photos but I haven't tried those other mice.
lol it sounds like you need a different mouse man! Why would you even buy it if you don't want wireless and the specific ergonomics? It's funny, I bought it exactly for the reasons you don't like it. I'm sure you could find something more or less what you are looking for and it would cost less. I wish I knew more about mice to offer advice. I hope you find the right one!
Yeah I Ridge comment a little too fast in the first place. What's your main reason for not using wireless? I feel like they're so fast nowadays... I rarely have to charge mine. I can't really see any benefit to going wired but I'd love to know more.
Hunges?! Hehe I don't know what you were trying to say there :) Does that mean you are going to get it or not get it 😅 I still love this mouse. I'm using it right now!
@sarakaster haha amazing! Once you go to silent clicks you can never go back. If you remember let me know what you think once you've had a chance to try it!!
@@TheSAHDLife Since you replied so nicely I am indeed coming back to you. I tried the MX Master 3s for 5 days and have to admit - she's too heavy für me. No, seriously. I therefore ordered the Logitech G502 X LIGHTSPEED and although also not optimal (super loud click sound in comparison!) and in fact too light it's the better compromise for me since I love the two additional buttons right beside the left click area for the index finger. I would have really loved for "us" to work out but lol but did return the MX Master today...for some reason it just didn't click ;) Tbh something right in between those two in matter of weight and click volume would be IDEAL!
@@sarakaster Haha that's awesome! At least now you know! And it's a beast for sure. It's like a curling stone. I really like that while photo and video editing.... it's stable. But for gaming it's not the best. I still game with it and don't mind it but I wouldn't mind something lighter for that. Is the one you got a wired mouse?
That is the mighty Samsung G9 49'' monitor, lol. Crazy right? I reviewed it on my channel too because it's so nuts: th-cam.com/video/qgSD8T8kCL4/w-d-xo.html
Hmm I'm not sure exactly what you mean. On the mouse it says something about 5.0V with a 500mA battery but it's small and hard to read any other text. Hope that helps.
I've had this mouse now for two hours and I'm absolutely loving it!!! I hadn't realized just how bad my old mouse had gotten. Thank you for the breakdown. Totally sold me on it.
Amazing! It's just solid right? It's nice to have nice things in life :) I'm still really happy with it and I even enjoy gaming on it. Thanks for the comment 👊
Great, no BS review. You just helped me to feel comfortable about buying the Logitech MX Mouse & Keyboard Bundle. Thanks for your great quality review.
Awesome! I'm sure you will be happy with your purchase... I still am. Really appreciate you watching and the comment 👊
so after all that you bought a microsoft combo or you meant to say MX?
No@@nmckinlay that was a typo, I got the Logitech :)
Totally agree with the intro! Great job end to end!
That's for the comment, I really appreciate it 🤜I'm still loving the mouse (and the keyboard!). Have you or are you thinking about getting one!?
Just bought on a whim. Super surprised with the quiet clicks and awesome scroll wheel. It's a keeper.
Right?! I love the clicking action and like you mentioned the awesome scroll wheel. My wife has the ergonomic Logitech mouse and it has a plastic wheel, you can sure tell the difference. It fits my hand well but not perfectly, but yeah, for the price, I'm super happy. I think the only way to get better would to somehow create a custom mold mouse which fits your hand...
LOL... You're not just going to act like we didn't just see you Photoshopping hair on your head...
Hahaha a man can dream!
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Was about to comment this haha😂
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Appreciate the review, your kick back is on the way!
Haha awesome! If you remember please let me know what you think once you've had a chance to use it! 👊
I recently got the white version as well. Before this I used the Logitech M590, mainly because of the near silent clicking. Needless to say I was endlessly happy when I realized the 3S had really similar clicking. I hadn't realized before how uncomfortable my hand was using the other mouse. This one just "feels" right
My other mouse (on my laptop) is the Logitech Triathlon mouse, and while it's quite comfortable still it's so LOUD. I really love that silent clicking and was surprised just how satisfying it felt. I am happy with that choice, glad to hear you are too!
The fact that this ALSO works as a wired mouse sold me. (Per Logi customer service, "We only have two models that can work both as wireless and wired...the G502 X Plus and the MX Master 3S.") I've had many issues with my Bluetooth mouse losing connection and when I go to Windows settings to toggle Bluetooth off and back on to reset, I'm stuck because I don't have touchscreens to be able to tap the Bluetooth toggle back on. With this, no need to hunt down a wired mouse because it also works as such with its charging cable.
I can't remember if I knew that! I feel like I've tried it and it didn't work but now you're making me want to try it again. I built a new computer recently and I had to find my old Wired mouse because when I'm in the bios the Bluetooth one obviously doesn't work. I hope it does! Thanks for sharing that 👊
@@TheSAHDLife I'm waiting on mine to be delivered, which I ordered based on what Logi customer service said about being both wired and wireless. Good luck to both of us. lol :)
EDIT to add: The Logi rep was quite unequivocal and detailed when I specifically asked. In addition to what he said above, he added, "When the charging cable is attached, both mice will work as a wired mice. By the way, both mice use a USB receiver as their wireless connection. The MX Master 3S has built-in bluetooth."
Really good review, I was on the fence about it but decided to get it, will be ordering later today with your link! Thanks!
Thanks for watching! It's just a great mouse. I still use it every day. It's comfortable and the battery lasts forever. Let me know what you think when you get it! 👊
Just got mine as a gift from my parents and it is amazing. The horizontal scroll wheel is great for my job and the mag scroll is great.
Nice! It's just good right?! I know it might not fit everybody's hands perfectly but it's the best that I've ever used still. And like you said the most wheels are just awesome and overall feels high quality.
@@TheSAHDLife It fits my somewhat small hands nicely and very premium feel. It would be nice to have a dedicated slot for the dongle, but otherwise amazing.
I can honestly say, this mouse is absolutely awesome. I have large hands and upon using this mouse from day 1 my fingers and wrist felt so relaxed when using, with zero fatigue when using it for extended periods .The Logitech app is excellent for customizing your functions. Even with the higher price tag, its worth every cent.
It's tough to recommend things like mice as they fit every person differently, but once I used this (after trying many others) it felt like a pretty safe recommend since it is so good. It's not perfect but compared to the competition it seemed like it's on another level. Glad you loved it too 👊
So my work computer doesn’t allow me to install software. Can I setup the software on my personal computer and then plug it into my work computer and the settings carry over?
Hmmm that's a good question. I don't know the answer and am not sure I will be able to test that for you anytime soon. You can customize it for each app which I'm sure you'd need the software for, but as far as customizing the buttons to act the same on every computer... I'm not sure. Sorry mang!
cool mousepad! definitely grabbing one, can't believe it's under $20
Thanks! Yeah I still love it and use it everyday! I do have a felt one in my TH-cam studio that I like too. I can't tell which I like more, but either way they are great 👊
Thanks for making this! I had been researching a non apple mouse for my new Mac mini, and this one had been talked about, so I looked for a review on you tube, and hey presto, you had made one! In truth your reviews are always 110% bullet proof and sincere (no matter what the product) , so I think I am sold! Greetings and thanks to you (again) from jolly old England ! In fact, I took out You Tube Premium based on your review alone, and I have been happily paying since, though not through buying it via apple! 🇬🇧👋🇨🇦
That's awesome! :) I'm glad you found the video and yes, I am still happily using the mouse right now! It really is a great product. I do my best to make each review I do not only interesting but honest... no affiliate program in the world is worth it over being honest with products, so I'm glad that sincerity comes through in my videos. I really appreciate you saying that.
Let me know what you think about the mouse! I think it's still great but I built a gaming PC and sometimes wish the mouse was lighter for that... but I actually prefer the weight of the 3S for daily tasks, so maybe down the line I'd get a 2nd mouse. Cheers from Vancouver Island 👊
@@TheSAHDLife I will happily let you know. Thanks for the nice reply!
@@TheSAHDLife Hello again! My mouse arrived today and it arrived with 60% charge. I like the feel of it immediately and I liked the swap between the free spinning and the graduated spinning for the mouse wheel. I have made the horizontal scroll my volume up and down so far! I am ten minutes in to the use and I am glad I bought it 🙂
@@richryan8904 Oh that's awesome! What a cool use for that mouse wheel. I do use the horizontal scroll which is nice for video editing but what's sweet is you can customize it for different apps. I'm glad you are enjoying it :) 👊 thanks for letting me know.
I pulled my old G700 out from junk storage (stuff that is still good, but needs an inspection for repair before discarding), which had the double click issue that started years ago. I finally just repaired it with some new switches, and it's good as new again - the G700 is a joy to use for either gaming or for work, and I had been using it for work before it started failing (you don't want to be dragging an email window then have the mouse suddenly click the send button on its own!). The hand shape was just perfect. The weight is substantial and after seeing the inside, it's very high quality. The G700 was what Logitech was going to do with their gaming mice before they decided to start marketing the cheaper feeling and thinner housing mice as part of their gaming mice family for the sake of 'being lightweight' with 'adjustable weights'. I'd imagine the MX Master 3s has a pretty similar feel to the G700 due to its shape- the shape is just very natural feeling, while the device itself is extremely high quality. Maybe I'll pick one of these MX Master 3s mice!
I never had the g700 but it looks good. Does it have the silent clicks? I'm on my laptop right now with my Triathlon mouse and... while I like the shape, it does NOT have the quiet clicks of the MX 3s and I miss it so much. I'd be very curious to hear what you think of it! I love it for a bunch of reasons... it might not be a great gaming mouse but I think it's just so well rounded.
I bought this for work. I’m an insurance agent so my entire day is on the computer. I LOVE THIS MOUSE. I will never by another. The scroller is life changing. I love the hand placement. I have no problem with it but I guess that would vary with the size of your hand. Their old wave keyboard is also the best thing for working. It’s definitely louder but I like that. It’s so comfortable to use and the calculator button is just awesome. Love Logitech.
Nice! Yeah I still use mine everyday, I'm using it now! Logitech really does a good job don't they. I mean the mouse isn't perfect, but it's the closest thing I've found yet. And even though it's expensive, it's not THAT expensive for a tool that we use everyday and helps us do/enjoy work better. Thanks for the comment.
The 1st high end mouse I had was a Logitech MX-1000 and I loved that mouse. It was comfortable, lasted a long time on a charge and the mouse lasted about 10 years. Then it got to where it wouldn't hold a charge. After that I just bought the little cheapies until today. The last cheapie mouse I bought lasted maybe 2 years, now I have the MX master 3s and so far I'm liking it. I hope it last like the mx-1000 did.
Nice! Logitech seems to make good stuff. I've been happy with everything I've bought from them and actually just yesterday I picked up their Pro X headphones and they are fantastic. I'm still rocking the 3S as well and love that too.
Edit: Just wanted to add it holds a charge for months of daily usage.
Concise and entertaining review!
I really appreciate the comment, thank you 👊
Thanks for the lovely presentation for the mx series keyboard and mouse.
I was first looking to get a decent quality (quiet) keyboard, and when I came across that Logitech MX Keys Mini, your video has definitely conviced me, then I ended up getting it together with the mouse Logitech MX Master 3S, this combo's quality in terms of several aspects, but mainly ergonomics (on the mouse) was way too appealing not to have it.
It was easy to blindly trust you on this mouse, without having to do extra researches, cuz I knew you already did it for us, so I really appreciate that !
Thanks! I really appreciate the comment :) Have you received them yet? I'd love to know what you think of them. I ended up selling the keyboard when I sold my computer and I still miss it. It was great. I am still rocking the mouse, it's just so solid and the battery lasts forever.
Just using the set since a few days, and it is indeed a lovely experiance. One can definitely feel the premium finish, i'm especially impressed by the keyboard btw
@@tun1to Oh good. Glad to hear it! Logitech has nailed both the silent click on the mouse (you can't go back to a normal mouse!) and the touch on that keyboard. I loved it too and was surprised by the value. It's nice to have quality stuff. The mouse fits my hand 95% and I still enjoy it. It's heavy which I think is nice for productivity and accuracy but a little slow for gaming. I still use it for that though. Plus the set looks nice too. Though it would be cool if they had options in that realm 👊
hey hey, i'd want to make a lil update, i've been using the mouse since about 25-27 days, so far no operational issues or similar, but battery life is currently 25% after just 25-28 days of use, even started lagging somehow, is this a normal behaviour ? My expectations were that the battery life will last longer than that, what is your opinion, because I requested a return for the mouse, btw the keyboard is absolutely fantastic and no doubt my favorite, and is at 80% battery life so far...
@@tun1to Thanks for the update! Yeah that does seem like it's dying a little sooner than it should, but without a couple power cycles it's tough to really say. And what kind of usage are you doing with it? Full-time working every day or just using it sporadically? I don't keep track of how often I charge mine but it feels like maybe every few months? Enough that I'm happy with it and know any other mouse would be the same.
Glad you're loving the keyboard though. I miss that thing.
just got mine in combo with keyboard and after 14 years of using gaming eqip. this is BRUTAL GOOD!
Oh sick! It's nice right? I like the keyboard too, I have the mini version (without the num pad) and it's great. The battery lasts a long time too. Super happy with it! LOVE the quiet clicking.
I actually hate it due to the low polling rate. I find it brutally slow and laggy even compared to 15 year old wired mice / keyboards. Everything else is great, but they need to put a good sensor in it.
@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 im playing finals, and compared to mine G702 it's even better
I just bought a MX Keys S keyboard today and it's the best keyboard I have ever used. Judging by the quality of the keyboard I'll definitely get the mouse at some point because it seems like Logitech just knows how to make a good productivity boosting computer tools.
I just rebought the MX keys mini this week too since I love that keyboard. I have a very expensive custom keyboard as well which is nice and its own way but to be honest I kind of prefer the Logitech ones.. for the price it's just hard to be. Glad to hear you're happy with the quality. I still am loving the mouse but I've been gaming a lot lately and it's a bit heavy for that. It still works well enough but I guess in a perfect world I would have two. It can't be beat for productivity though.
Thanks for this video, bro. Could you please share the link to the led lamp you put on your desk? (4:20)
Even better my friend, I reviewed those lights on my other channel! You can check that video here: th-cam.com/video/_YKvcQ8yBwQ/w-d-xo.html
They are rad!
Retired, I have a rare form of muscular dystrophy called OMPD. I went to my neurologist, and not only do I have OMPD, but carpal tunnel in both hands. I don't have any pain, but like you, I found out that we often look at a mouse as a 10 dollar device. I also use a mac, and loved the apple mouse. I still use windows as well and took a chance on the MX master 3s. The ability to set it to high dpi.(less wrist moment) is a joy. Also the ability for a smotth scroll wheel, not notchy is a personal joy. A 100.00 bucks for it is high, but it is well worth it. You young people, don't buy a cheap gaming mouse. Your hands and wrist will tank you when you get into your 60's like me.
Good comment, thanks for sharing! How do you find the fit and weight of the MX 3S?
@@TheSAHDLife It is perfect for me at hi dpi setting. Also I bought a 3M mouse pad from amazon, bet 8 dollar investment as well, does not fry, and is very slick for mouse movement.
Dude... So cozy setup 🤤
Thanks mang! 👊 Although it's all changed / gone! We moved and I sold that monitor. However I'm in the process of setting up something new, hopefully it'll be even better lol! A lot of work though. Still rocking the mouse and loving it! What about you? What mouse are you rocking?
@@TheSAHDLife hope to see your new setup. I have cheap Logitech marathon but want to buy this MX 3s. Thanks for video 👍🏼
Im still rocking my mx master 2. Almost 5 years now, i want to upgrade but my mx 2 still works. I love the ergonomics of this and side scroll is a thing i never i knew i needed until I got this.
Haha that's awesome! Sadly I never was exposed to this mouse until the 3S but I'm happy that I finally was. I do have to say though, the silent clicking of the 3S is just, well I don't think I could even have a mouse without it now moving forward. I'm not sure if non-Logitech mice have this feature yet, because if they don't, I think I'll be sticking with Logitech for awhile!
I really, really, really want to like this mouse. I am a videographer/editor by profession and 90% of my desk time is working with a mouse, so it is really important for me to have something that fits my larger hands and, almost more importantly, has a great button setup. I finally spent more than twenty bucks on a mouse about a year ago (Logitech M720 Triathlon) and enjoyed its size. It has been very comfortable, but I have been techno-lusting over the MX Master. So I finally got one this morning.
Is the MX Master comfortable? Hell yeah, it feels great in the hand. But after using it for about five hours today, I became really annoyed with the button layout, which is actually less functional than my Triathlon. The Triathlon, like most Logitech mice, has a left-right click feature on the scroll wheel. This is super convenient because your finger is right next to the wheel 99.9% of the time your hand is on the mouse. The MX Master does away with this and gives you a horizontal scroll wheel by the thumb. Its placement sucks, even on a large mouse.
The kicker? My Triathlon is about $70 cheaper, has the same hand comfort as the MX Master, and has a way more efficient button layout. I urge anyone thinking about getting the MX Master, or anyone who feels buyers guilt about wasting $99 on the MX to try the Triathlon.
I too have the M720 which I showed briefly in this video (53 seconds in) and that's funny, I don't know if I've ever used the left/right click on the scroll wheel! What do you have it programmed for?
I suggest you use the new mouse a little more... when I go back to my M720 now, the loud clicking gets annoying and I long for the quieter more subtle tactile clicks of the MX. I do really like the Triathlon mouse too but I also find it just a tad bit short.
I imagine though unless you custom build a mouse for your hand, it would be easy to find shortcomings in any mass produced mouse.
It's tough, it's such a personal choice right? I would feel comfortable recommending the M720 for the price, like you, but think the MX might be a safer long term bet for a wider range of people. I'll be curious if you feel the same way in a week or two.
Do let me know about those buttons though!
@@TheSAHDLife The scroll wheel on my M720 is set to "Forward" and "Back" which I use on websites and anything else that has a back or forward arrow.
With Logi Options+ I have application specific settings to scroll my timeline forward or backward when I am using video editing software. My finger is right next to that scroll wheel anyway, so this is much handier than the horizontal scroll wheel.
The horizontal scroll on the MX Master is a great idea, I just found myself doing way to much hunting for it to where it was more of a distraction to use than a useful feature.
The clicks, I don't mind at all. I actually kind of like that satisfying little click sound with the pleasant tactile click. Anyway, I took the Master back and got a refund. Just couldn't get used to it and, ultimately, it didn't make my editing life any easier or add any value for the money.
Nice hearing from you!
Thanks for the comparison to gaming mice. I'm also mostly using my mouse for work (from coding to Adobe stuff and the accuracy comparison helped) and some very minimal gaming. Your video helped me decide between a quality precision gaming mouse and this one!
Oh I'm so glad. I love reading a comment like yours, thanks for letting me know. If you remember, let me know what you think when you get the mouse! 👊
@@TheSAHDLife You mention in the description recently optimizing your workspace, do you have any videos on that?
I found the Samsung Odyssey review - funny enough I'm also considering that right now to replace my 34" LG Curved - plus your YT channel help videos so thanks for sharing. I'm also trying to take small steps in becoming more organized and productive and use more ergonomic tools for my everyday life, hence the interest. Again, thanks for sharing.
@@real-j-anderson Thanks for watching and the support, I really appreciate it! Do you mind if I ask why you are considering replacing the 34" screen? We actually just moved and I ended up selling my 49" screen. It was neat but I don't think I would buy it again. I'm not actually sure what I will get next.
I will be going into my new space in June so will definitely be making more videos about setting up and optimizing my workstation / office space. We are in a crazy transitional time in our lives so I'm really looking forward to creating some awesome, thoughtful videos in the near future. I do bounce around with my topics a lot as you can tell but like to create cohesive groups of videos eventually!
3:40 is EXACTLY why i got this mouse as well 😂
Playing zombie in the bed and don't want to wake up my wife.
Hahaha right?!
And what game are you playing?!?!
I just got the 3S Graphite, fortunately after being made aware that the Pale Grey (whitish) turned yellow after use. This isn't my first Logitech, I have the G502 Lightspeed for gaming and I remember having the first laser MX1000 back in the 2000s. The 3S' hump is a little high for my hand and my hand size is more average than small but it's not a deal breaker, I just have to move my hand further forward to have a better grip and palm rest position. This is my daily driver mouse for web browsing and work, not for gaming, so its productivity features really helps - it's productivity-focussed button assignments, the thumb rest for prolonged usage and the winning feature for me was the battery life. My wireless G502 had to be recharged regularly and for daily use it was an annoyance. After getting the 3S, the 502 is now used primarily for gaming along with my Razer Basilisk V3. The near silent mouse clicks was also a godsend for night-time usage as my PC is in my bedroom and its near silence was needed in order not to annoy the missus.
Sounds like you have a nice little lineup! Yeah I agree, it's not 100% perfect but it's the best one I've used to date so I'm still happy with mine. The silent clicks are still incredibly satisfying a year later and are still my favourite part.
Hi your desk mic, is that your broadcasting the video from?. If so, thats great quality. Can you tell me the brand if possible?
Thanks! It is the Deity D3-Pro microphone. Usually I boom it above me but had it in the shot there. It's great for the price point. The only downside is you have to turn it off and on every time you use it. I bought it used and think that's a great way to buy it if you can to save a few bucks!
Great video 👍🏾
Really appreciate you saying 👊
I will buy it after watching your review....❤❤❤
I'm glad you found the video! Yes it's an awesome mouse, I still LOVE it. In fact I might sell my windows computer and switch to an Apple... and if I do, I will re-buy this mouse in the Mac version lol. Let me know if you get it what you think!
Does this mouse come with a usb dongle? I want to buy this mouse but I'm hesitating cause I don't know if it comes with a dongle please let me know thanks!
So, mine did NOT come with the little dongle. You mean the little USB connecter right? It seems like others have received it so I'm not sure if it's just the one I bought or if it's different outside of Canada... it's a great mouse that has good built in bluetooth but yeah, the dongle would be nice if it came in the box.
@@TheSAHDLife Thank you for the reply I'm using a macbook pro so every usb port counts I only have two on this laptop. Since it doesnt need the dongle and can connect with bluetooth I plan to buy it soon. Thanks again great work!
@ZeBlaZeD so I just sold my MacBook Pro... And while the most worked with it through Bluetooth I don't know if it was because I had the non Mac version, didn't feel quite as smooth as it should be. Like it is on my Windows machine. I did have the windows version of it which I was using on the macbook so maybe be sure to buy the Apple version of it. I'm still really happy with it though and I'm sure you will be too!
Hi mate. I´m SAHD too hahaha. I´m not on TH-cam though, cool to see others like me on TH-cam. I like your channel, just discovered it. Good quality. Good luck on your TH-cam journey. Robert
Nice to meet you fellow SAHD! And thanks for the support, it is really appreciated. The TH-cam thing is fun... it is very rewarding at times but it is always very grueling at times. Have you thought about doing it yourself? I'm always here if you ever want to brainstorm or just, you know, chat SAHD stuff :) I have double daughters (now 5 & 8)... you?
What is the screen monitor ? It looks so good.
Haha that is the insane 49" Samsung G9 Odyssey! I did a video on it because it's absolutely ridiculous. I have since sold it and bought a monitor that's better for my workflow, but boy that one was fun.
My only issue with Master 3S is its polling rate. 125Hz simply doesn't cut it when many displays have a refreshing rate of 144Hz. Make its polling rate 1000Hz, and it would be the best all-purpose mouse ever.
That's really interesting. When I go to this website: cps-check.com/polling-rate-check
It averages between 135-140hz. My monitor is 144hz and to be honest, I've never once noticed that the mouse might be the bottleneck. It's always felt smooth but I'm not a competitive gamer. I do play shooters once in awhile though and it feels fine. But I've also never used a gaming mouse.
Thanks for the share!
Had same effect with the MX Master (one, without a number). This product line is a game changer, especially if you use multiple machines, or often are on tour. its also robust.
Right?! Logitech just crushes it with their keyboard/mice. Still happy with them both (keyboard AND mouse) months later.
Cheers! Found this video to be super helpful. Excited to receive my Logitech MX Master 3S tomorrow. Quick question, if you don't mind sharing, what camera did you use to produce this video? The quality was excellent.
Well that's exciting! Receiving new tech is just the best :) Do let me know what you think! And I appreciate you saying that about the quality, I've been working hard to bump up my game. I am using the Sony a7iv as my main camera. I believe in this video I was using the Sony 28mm F2 for the lens, however, I have upgraded to the almighty Sony 24mm F1.4 since then, oh baby! If you are interested in camera stuff I actually have a separate channel where I talk about camera related things. You can check that out here: www.youtube.com/@thesahdstudio
Loving the mouse so far! The mouse shortcuts are a godsend while editing videos 🙌🏽 Ah, the Sony A7iv is a beaut and the quality is next level indeed. Appreciate the info! Keep up the good work man 🎉
@@lojo6047 So glad to hear that. I'm still really loving it too. The quick clicks just sound and feel good.
Thanks for the support 👊have an awesome weekend!
Great video - I was wondering what that wheel above the thumb was for. I've been using an Ergo M575 trackball mouse for a while now. I'm a recently retired engineer and I want to get into using CAD (Fusion360) and possibly light gaming. Do you think this moving mouse will be more precise than a trackball? (Only issue I have had over the years with the trackball is when copying the screen with dragging I sometimes stop the drag early due to the trackball.)
Ok, if you use a trackball mouse your brain is wired differently than the rest of us! Haha. That is a difficult question to answer. My first question would be what kind of gaming would you like to do? That's the ONE area I would say this mouse is not great in. It has a relatively low polling rate and isn't the lightest. My techy buddy said the Razer Viper 3 Pro is fantastic but he's a first person shooter gamer. I play Path of Exile 2 which is a lot of clicking and moving the mouse around too... I love it for comfort but think maybe a smaller lighter mouse WOULD be better for gaming. This mouse is hard to beat for everything else though. Also I would say the MX Master 3S fits better with medium/large sized hands... so if you have smaller hands I'd probably suggest something else. Our Bestbuy has it on display so perhaps you could go try it out first? Let us know what you get or think of it!
Is the bluetooth poll rate is only 90hz for mx master and mx anywhere? That will cuase cursor to look laggy on screen on high refresh rate screens will it not? Can you test that please?
I don't know the answer to that BUT I am using a laptop with a 240hz screen with this mouse over bluetooth right now and it is smooth like butter!
Nice video. Could i get a download link for the wallpaper by the way
Sadly my friend that monitor is long gone and I don't remember where I got it :(
hi. everyone nice to know you all, i just brought mx master 3s, i face some problems,, can i know the led battery indicator on the mouse, is it always on? or only light up for few sec when connected with pc
Hi Alex, nice to know you too! I don't have any LEDs on my mouse, so that must be just while you are connecting it. Does everything else work nicely? Do you have Logitech Options+ installed?
@@TheSAHDLife thanks for reply, yes,the mouse is working fine and also i had install the logictech options+ thanks for the info
I first bought a wireless unknown brand "gaming" mouse but it was like a piece of soap and way to small and light, I have small hands and still it was waaay to small and did not fit... So I went back to the store that has a 1 month policy of return no questions asked and got this Logitech 3s instead and it fit me perfectly and feel great in my hand with the perfect weight and grip.
It's just solid right? I'm still happy with it and using it right now too! LOVE the silent clicks.
Do you not have the scrolling issue? I have it with mine and it's very annoying for development and scrolling through chat logs
I do not! Mine has been great. I even switched over to a Mac and it works great on here also.
I would love to try this mouse.......but....
I am doing video editing and this mouse has too few buttons to assign short commands to.
I find it has enough for my video editing needs but I'm an amateur. I use more shortcuts on my keyboard side/left hand than with my mouse. I have a couple on the mouse though. Fair enough though! What mouse are you using now?
This mouse is missing one feature: A wire. That's why I'll keep using the G502 X. It's a similar shape but it has that cable.
I just built a new computer and... well luckily I had an old mouse with a cable kicking around, because you're right... I wouldn't have been able to set up easily without it!
Buuut I still love this mouse and am using it right now!
Should I purchase this in 2024 end or wait for the new model?
That's a good question. I would say it's still great and worth the cost. Black Friday is right around the corner and there's a good chance it will go on sale so maybe keep your eyes peeled for deals?
I still use it everyday, it works great, I have no complaints, and the silent clicks are the only way to go. For some gamers it might be a little too heavy but I don't mind gaming on it!
Still 9.5/10 mouse going into 2025... I can't really see how they could improve it much besides somehow making custom shapes for different sized hands.
@TheSAHDLife thank you for your prompt reply.
Planning to buy after started to feel the numbness on my right hand. I hope it's not too late.
Yeah I still think it's a great mouse! Not sure where you're buying it from but worst case scenario you can return it if it isn't as good as you hope. It still seems like the top one that most creators use so I think you'll be happy with it.
Master 3s is very good and ergonomic, but what I found out is that the scroll wheel is so unprecise :(. especially when i am drawing and want to scroll exactly I have problems...
Since I switched to Mac recently the mouse wasn't working great. I found an app called LinearMouse which has enabled me to adjust all the scroll speeds etc and it now works much better. Maybe if you're on Windows, you can find an app to do that same? Not sure if you tinkered much in Logitech Options +?
I bought the G502X lightspeed after 3yrs of using the MX master 3 (not the 3s). I got used to the horrible scroll wheel of the MX, now I'm rehabilitating from that with the new G502X.
lol
That looks like a gnarly mouse. You happy with it? Anything you'd change? @@sawiie
@@TheSAHDLife actually yes!!! Both scroll wheels in the MX Master 3 do this weird thing, where they misregister how you scroll so you end up having a very clunky scroll experience. The G502X lightspeed, doesn't have a second scroll wheel, but the primary one has a sideways tilt mechanism for horizontal scrolling, in my opinion leaps and bounds better overall scrolling experience than the MX. Also and this is something I discovered recently because I'm a first time gaming mouse owner, being able to control DPI on your mouse (the MX has a 1600 fixed DPI), is just amazing. I use the G502X for productivity only but my screen is a 34inch ultrawide so by increasing the DPI to 2500 I can traverse the whole screen much faster and with significantly less physical mouse movement (this DPI adjustment also affects the scroll wheel so it increases scrolling speed) . The MX Master 3 allows you to program the buttons Per App! Which for some people is huge. The G502X doesn't have that, but allows you to save MACROS in each button, to me (a +12hrs daily Excel and PowerPoint user) this option is far superior than the MX Master 3 programable options. I know people praise the MX Master as a productivity mouse, but for someone who's willing to actually take the time and play around with the logitech's G-HUB software, the G502X for productivity can run circles around the former. My 2 cents in case this info helps :)
I will buy this when logitech develops their software for linux
Yeah I feel that. I wonder if they'll be releasing a 4 anytime soon. I feel like it's been long enough and it should be coming soon.
Hi. Do you notice any difference (especially in term of connection/lag) between bluetooth & usb receiver? Thanks for answering and keep up the good work.
To be honest, I don't. I game on this mouse and edit my videos with it and have not noticed the slightest lag while using it on Bluetooth.
On my laptop I have a USB connector and have switched between it. It's the same. Hope that helps and thanks for the support! I appreciate it 👊
Trying to figure out what the S part is. I have this mouse without the S - I do know I've worn through this mouse and another like it. That silicone thumb switch, wears through as I use it to close apps. And it has a hole in it again. Wondering if a complex gamer mouse would be better, or spend another $100 on it again and wait 4 years again for it to fail too...
It's the quiet clicks... and they're awesome. I still love this mouse but I've started gaming on it and while I still quite like it for that, it really doesn't feel like that's its job. I'd probably opt for a lighter mouse if you know you'll be doing lots of gaming. I can't vouch for the thumb switch though... do you mean that small button on the button of the thumb rest?
I’m an engineer and work on CAD and PDF markups all day. I got this mouse from the technician that worked at the company before me so I never even bought it. Amazing mouse. Customizing it for different applications is great so I can switch between programs while keeping the actions mostly the same. Also side scrolling is a godsend when working on huge Excel sheets!
Right? It's just better than your traditional mouse... I'm not saying it's the best mouse out there. I haven't tried that many... but once you use it after using normal mice, it just feels on another level and it's hard to go back. Love the silent clicks.
hey man what is monitor model that you are using here? can you share that info, thanks
That monitor is the insane Samsung G9 Odyssey! I made a video on it in case you are curious: th-cam.com/video/qgSD8T8kCL4/w-d-xo.html
great review. Can you leave a name for your mouse pad? or can anybody in the comments section find a reference?
Thanks! Honestly if you just go to Amazon and type in big mouse pad world. Or full desk mouse pad world. I also have a felt one which I really like. But I still use the world one and love it!
Hi SAHD, thanks for the video and your replies to the comments below. I wonder if you'd share with us your recent experience overall about the mx 3s. Is it still comfortable and precise after a year. Thanks in advance.
Hi! Yes it's still fantastic! I use it mostly for video editing and photo editing and it's just great. I enjoy the weight and the size of it. You can game on it but it doesn't shine if you're playing twitch games.. otherwise it's still definitely the best mouse I've ever used and I still recommend it!
@@TheSAHDLife I appreciate your quick response indeed. I just ordered one from Amazon after watching your video. I will use it for all office applications like Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. I will support my work by editing video content. It seems to be one of Logitech's most valuable and ergonomic mice. I hope I'm right. :)
@devrimyalcin Exciting! If you remember please let me know what you think about it when you've had the chance to use it.
Thanks for this
Np. Glad you found the video 👊
Can you compare it to the G502 X ?
Good call. That would be fun. I've been gaming more lately and I want to upgrade my mouse, so check it out. It would be neat to get a bunch of compare them side by side. What are you using right now?
I own the previous G502 for many years. At work, I have the beloved but discontinued G604 (hotswappable AA batteries, many months of battery life, more buttons but not too many). Nothing beats the G604 in my opinion, that's why I am so afraid of it breaking one day. If it does, well it's MX 3S (no mechanical scroll clutch) or G502X so that's why I need a reviewer hahah
I just got my mx master 3s yesterday and it is not smooth as trackpad or my cheap generic wireless mouse. I can't say it is laggy but it has tiny stutter. Do you also experience this? I tried windows, mac, usb, bluetooth(all combinations) but result was always the same.
Really!? No I don't have that at all. I do photo editing which needs the mouse to be precise and it's great... Same with gaming, it's wonderful.
Aww man, maybe you got a defective one :( Yeah I would take it back or exchange it. How does it feel, do you like the design?
@@TheSAHDLife Thanks for you quick reply. I contacted logitech and they decided that the mouse is defective after I showed them the screen record of the cursor. It can noticeable even from the screen record. I opened a replace ticket on amazon. I will let you know about the new one.
I really liked the design except the thumb botton for the gestures. I think it is little hard to do the gestures but it's not a big deal for me and I just can't enjoy of the full capabilty becasue of the stuttering :/
Oh that's good I'm glad to hear. Yeah to be honest I never use the gestures button... Maybe I will eventually. It's funny because I have the Logitech triathlon mouse and only once I got my new mx3s mouse did I realize there was a gesture button on my old mouse lol. If you do remember let me know how it goes once you get the new mouse!
@@TheSAHDLife Amazon sent the second one immediately. I got it today, tried it few minutes ago and the new one also has the issue. I uploaded the video that I showed to logitech support on youtube. You can check if you want to see the issue. By the way I haven't return the first one yet, now I have two latest and greatest defective mx master :D
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What the! And you get those same results testing it out on multiple devices? Hmmm that's really strange. Well I am flabbergasted my friend. I'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience for you... I feel like I've let ya down 😭
I used this mouse but still prefer madcatz RAT 8+ as the side scroll is more user friendly...
That's a crazy looking mouse! The 3S isn't really a gamer mouse as it's quite heavy. I still game with it but it wouldn't be my first choice for that. For editing though it's fantastic. Not perfect for everything but still good.
Is this mouse still recommended/relevant 2024? Im looking for a new mouse. Either this or logitech ergo one..
I figure i might by one for home or my office to see if i like it or not. If i like it i might buy one for home/office aswell.
Mouse used at office is a wireless standard logitech mouse without a thumb button for back. I really miss that feature. So that is a little bit annoying.
Mouse came with the logitech K860 keyboard/mouse combo.
Im looking for a new keyboard for home aswell.. have been looking at either the MX keyboard or maybe the ergo.. but the small keyboard in this video looks kinda neat too.
What kind of mousepad/mat are prefered/recommended? i know it comes to personal opinion and usage..
This mouse is absolutely still worth getting. Just make sure you get the 3s because that has the silent clicks which I feel are much more satisfying than the original 3. I did like the MX Keys myself but I would recommend the mouse 100% And the keyboard depends a little more on your usage. I'm considering getting an ergonomic keyboard at the moment myself.
As far as for the pads go I'm looking into getting a felt one as I think it would have a nice gliding action. They're pretty reasonable price on Amazon but again like you said it's personal preference.
I like how you said years and years of skills with a mouse. LOL . . . thanks for the review.
🤣 thanks for watching! Still happy with it... using it right now! You rocking one?
Great review! Could you tell me the brand and where you bought the tripod desk lamps? Min 2:01.
Thank you!
Yeah you bet. They are the IViSii G2. I actually reviewed them on my other channel if you want to check 'em out: th-cam.com/video/_YKvcQ8yBwQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n2nwPjQG1-JILGfm
Thank you!
It SOMETIMES lags... Like, the pointer lags for me. I absolutely love it, but is there a way to fix that?
So, I had that problem when I used the MX Master 3S on a MacBook. When I use it on Windows, it's smooth like butter. I'm not sure what computer you are using it on but just thought I'd share. It should not lag at all. On my Windows computer it feels like it's plugged in it's THAT responsive.
@@TheSAHDLifeI use it on a Windows device, so far so good though
@@TheSAHDLifeIt kinda stopped
@arielantebi7476 do you use it on a laptop or a desktop? My desktop has a little extender piece You put on your desk that boosts the Bluetooth so maybe that makes mine even stronger... Although it really worked well on my last windows laptop. I know you can use a USB dongle that helps but I think you have to buy that separately which is annoying. Also to maybe make sure to have the Logitech options and make sure the most is up to date. Just want to make sure you enjoy it and get the most out of it since it is such a sweet mouse! 👊
@@TheSAHDLife I use the USB that came with the mouse, and again, it works good now. Hopefully the problem won't come again in the future. Also, is it normal that the scrollwheel makes a sound when the magnet is on?
does the "connectivity" and precision change if you connect the mouse via bluetooth OR with the usd logi dungle?
To be honest I don't even have a USB dongle. I can't remember if it came with one (it might still be in the box). If I get a chance to check or play with it I'll let you know. I'm happy enough with it's performance... I have pretty average use for a mouse although I do some precision work within Photoshop. I'm happy with it. Although for video editing I wouldn't mind a lighter mouse. This is still the nicest one I've ever used.
thanks. unfortunately i encountered another MAJOR problem. to use it and set it up properly you need Logi Option+. to use this "tool", you need to approve "input monitoring", which basically allow Logitec to record your keyboards input. I contacted logitec and they told me that they record only special function as gesture and hotkeys but, trust is not there for me. i work from home and handle highly confidential data. i don't want an external company (logitech) to potentially record my inputs on the keyboard.
therefore i just un-installed it, and i'll sell the product. too bad as the mouse itself is GREAT. i currently use the old version, the MX master 3 (without the "s") and this one does NOT require this online monitoring nonsense....@@TheSAHDLife
@@Ares310788 That's interesting. Such a different perspective I would never have considered. Yeah it's tough when you just want to use the product with no strings attached! I just love the silent click of the 3S so much. That feature alone would make it hard for me to go back to any other mouse without it. Sounds like you got a decent setup now though!
yeah kind of... the old 3s that i have is, pretty old. 3-4 years of usage and well, the mous eis degreded a lot, plastic coming off and such. but again, used daily for work, around 9-10 hours everyday so, for the usage done it lastes quite long. i'd really like to use the new one but well, too hifh risk of breaching some "walls" with work so.... yeah.
honestly, i really do not liek this kind of "we force you to accept this or you cannot use it" thing.... it's bad, very bad.@@TheSAHDLife
MX Keys mini and MX Master 3s are the best option for business work.
I found them fantastic too. Still haven't really found anything better yet.
For those looking at this as a gaming option the polling rate is very low.
So it won’t be ideal for games that require fast reaction like shooters or moba
For sure! For casuals like me gaming on it is just fine. I played High on Life / Halo, and it was sufficient. I could see a lighter/gaming mouse would be better for long sessions but for guys like me, it's just fine. I've been playing Diablo 4 which is lots of clicking and it's been great!
I would recommend it, I come from the wired Steel Series Rival 3. And with this mouse i'm much faster responding in FPS games. But with a dpi of 4.5K of course.
Nice video, thinking of buying it, but curious is it working on Linux ?
That is a good question my friend but unfortunately I just don't know the answer! I can't see why it wouldn't work if other similar mice do. I'm sure you can Google it or find out on Amazon comments
My first mouse was the logitech pebble. 3 years later I upgraded to the graphite logitech vertical mx which was super cool. I wanted to love it as much as I love this new Logitech Mx Master 3S I bought just a couple of weeks ago but it's hard. This was sort of a random purchase at Best Buy as I deep down wasn't 100% receptive of the "handshake" design in the vertical compared to the Master's more traditional feel. On top of this, the horizontal scroll is game changer for some apps like excel or enterprise systems. The only gripe I have is a buyer's remorse as my set-up is largely black/dark themed with RGB Chroma and I snagged the white version and I was too lazy/excited to return it haha. Oh well.
Also, the silent but satifying click works great with my new setup too. I had the nice and clean white Razer Pro Keyboard I bought 3 years ago with the Pebble. Wanting to start RGB, I got it and realized it did not have RGB. Ran with it, and enjoyed the annoying clicks for three years, it did increase my productivity. However, now I started working more and more with colleagues and clients I moved to a quieter system. My new black Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro with RGB with linear red switches are great for my current set up. The ONLY FLOWER I MUST give the Vertical MX would be its CRISP and all too satisfying vertical scroll, however it's click sounds like a microwave going off at 1am compared to the master mx 3s.
Haha that's awesome. Yeah tough call with the colour eh? The white IS slick. Was that the only one they had or did you want to mix it up?
lol yeah once you go soft clicks it's hard to go back. Everything else sounds SO loud in comparison. I had a nice little Anywhere mouse but had to ditch it because it was too loud.
@@TheSAHDLife I was otw to checkout and saw from the corner of my eye 😂 and just picked it up as I was lowkey not 100% with the vertical Mx
heyy what game were you playing? that shooter with the weird looking gun
I believe it was High on Life! Loved it 👊 free on game pass too
@@TheSAHDLife nice thanks! just played about 30mins of it and its fun!
Pretty funny right? Hilarious writing and beautiful design.
@@TheSAHDLife yea! Makes me wanna finish Trover vs the Universe, I bought it a few yrs ago and never finished lol
@vmiget01 oh no way, I didn't realize they did other games. Nice!!
Great video! One question though, do you need to use the USB receiver? Or can you connect directly via Bluetooth to your laptop?
I use the bluetooth connectivity and it works great. I just asked a commenter in my other video the benefit of using a wireless receiver vs bluetooth so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back to you lol
What mic are you using?
My main mic is the Deity D3 Pro. It's great but it doesn't turn itself off which is annoying. I haven't sound treated my room too well but when the mic is close it sounds great! What you rocking?
Where did you get your mouse pad?
I think I just got it on Amazon. I still like it but think I'm going to get one of those full size felt ones next. Maybe grey or a dark turquoise?
Hi! Is the mouse in Graphite or in Black? Looking at colour options
It's black! I thought it comes in a white one as well. It's slick. Still love it!
how does this perform in mac m2 chips? heard stories it has a lot of issues with lagging :/
If I could test this for you, I would. Sadly I cannot :(
Still really happy with the mouse, using it right now.
I think u just sold me, with this video. 😂😂
🤣 haha awesome. If you remember please let me know what you think when you get it. It's so great, I hate going back to anything else after using it.
Thanks for watching 👊
Man, you sure know how to persuade lol, you got me! I was confused between Logitech MX Master 3S and Logitech G502 HERO (which on sale now 50% off) ? Which one would you recommend? I don’t do gaming but mostly for work, long online research and video editing! Right now I use Logitech M325 wireless mouse which I was given from work few yrs ago!
Now it’s going to be my first mouse shopping and I wanna end up with something worth buying and can stay for many yrs to come… thanks for your appealing review style
Haha glad you found the video! To be honest you really can't go wrong with the Master 3S. It's almost perfect. The other might be better for gaming, but ultimately based on what you said it seems like a no-brainer to get the MX... plus if you buy new you could always return it right? Heck buy BOTH and return one! lol
@@TheSAHDLife I think that’s the best way to go, once I try I’ll see which one feels close to my heart lol. I bought Mac Mini M2 Pro last week, didn’t open yet! I hope it’ll work with it better. Thanks for your feedback
@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 Oh snap, that's exciting! I've been thinking of making the switch to a Mac myself... I'll be curious how it is for you.
And let me know what you think when you get your new mouse 👊
I notice there's a Mac version and a Windows/Linux version. I use both Windows (for personal) and Mac (for work). Would I get away with the Mac version on Windows? I am not buying two different units!
Here's what I found on the topic... Mac version: no dongle & USB-C to USB-C cable Normal version: Logi Bolt dongle and USB-C to USB-A cable
I have the Windows one myself and since making this video, sold my Windows desktop and bought a Mac laptop. It works great on the Mac. So no, you don't need two.
MX Master 2s is better for the following reaons:
1: Side scroll buton is at the side of the two buttons and you can rest your thumb on the bottom to use it, you have to lift your finger on the 3 - a bit silly
2: its a smaller size than the 3 - the 3 is more arched
MX Master 3 has silent clicks which I like a lot, last longer, usb c, charges quicker - maybe I just need to get used to it but the 3 hurts my hand a lot, the 2 not at all
I totally agree about the scroll on the side. It's not in the perfect spot. The size is a tricky one for sure... I feel it 90% fits my hand which is great. Unless you made a custom mold I can't really see a mouse fitting everyone much better than it.
It's the silent clicks that are the real clincher for me. I can't live without that now. Too bad you can't have the best of both worlds.
what chair are you using?
Nothing special. I'm still rocking an old Ikea chair which I've had for... 15 years? It was about $200... I think you can get the newer version for (inflation) $299?
If I had to buy a chair right now though I'm not sure what I would get. Save up for an Aaron / Herman Miller? Can they be as good as they seem? I have no idea :)
The thing i HATE on this Mouse is the clicking sound of the scroll wheen. I use Blender alot and you have to use the scroll wheel alot. And it is horrible
That is a great point. I agree with you! It definitely is horrible. Luckily I don't need to ever use it because if I did I think I would baby rage a little.
Are you guys already pay per clicks to Logitech? or is the wonderful idea of a 'subscription mouse' still under development at Logitech?
What?!!
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Do you have to add tax on your price yourself? Why isn't it included?
Yeah usually. I'll say the price with tax included sometimes but taxes are different everywhere so it's tough to state with the prices in each area. I find mentioning the price on usd people can easily kind of convert it in their heads .
I got the mouse along with a new laptop!
Nice! How do you like it? And what laptop did you get, anything decent?
@@TheSAHDLife yea its an acer, id say pretty good
The best ergonomic mouse for me and I challenge you! I have used a lot of mice and I run mice on a monthly basis in order to test the issue. Luckily I found a mouse so comfortable, so fast and so light weight that if they decide to invest a little more in it, it's going to beat Logitech's mice! And this mouse is from the HP company, the name of the mouse is hp professor1, it is the mouse with the best ergonomic shape I have ever seen, and if they add a magnetic roller and a side roller, I assure you that it is the best mouse in the world!😁
That's awesome! It really looks like they modeled it after that mx3s which is great! If they can make it even just a little bit better while keeping all the good things about it it could be a real winner. Thanks for the share, I'll l keep my eyes peeled for it.
@@TheSAHDLife just order one it's not the same shape it's more comfortable! and work better with a mac
What’s brand is the blue chair?
It is the Very Mesh Office Chair from Haworth. I bought it used and while it's awesome, I wish the padding was slightly thicker. Other than that just fantastic!
Did you try the handshoe mouse? How does it compare?
Do you mean the vertical mouse in the video? Or is there a separate handshoe mouse you are referring to?
The one in the video my wife got isn't for me... it also doesn't quite have the high quality finishing of the MX Master 3s.
Different things but I think for ergnomics, hand comfort, and overall usability I much prefer the 3S.
@@TheSAHDLife No. I mean the handshoe mouse designed by Hippus.
@@meirgoldenberg5638 When I Googled it there were several with different designs so I wasn't sure which one specifically... but yes I saw this thing and it looks crazy. It looks like a Stingray!
It looks slippery. I'm using the MX 3s now and it has a beautiful matte finish on it were that Hippus looks like a cheaper plastic. It might be great though! Also the scroll wheel looks nothing special. At the end of the day it's the design that matters... if I would have had the chance to test the Hippus, I would have. It's at a pretty expensive price-point and has a lot of competition. Are you thinking about it?
@@TheSAHDLife I have been using it for quite a few years now. You rest your whole hand on it and your hand does not touch the table. I decided to look at other options because the left button started to give problems. However, I have cleaned it inside it's fine!
That's awesome, I love it when you find a piece of interesting tech and it lasts for years!
Do you use a mouse pad, if so what kind? Also what keyboard do you use?
hey whats the chair you got?
It was the Very Office Chair from Haworth. I got it used for about $350 CAD. It was great BUT I felt the seat cushion was a little too thin. I ended up selling it and am still on a quest for the next best chair. I'm currently using my old Ikea one. It's still great like 15 years later...
@@TheSAHDLife haha awesome man, i bought a vertagear "gaming" chair maybe 4 years ago, mm, immediately i didnt like it but i was pretty much stuck with it due to ordering it online. it kind of fell apart way faster than i was expecting aswell, the most annoying thing is the spring for the back adjust snapped, i really need a new chair, once you find the perfect one def make a video for it if you feel up to it! i am still looking myself lol
i was thinking herman miller but it might be out of current budget, might be a good option down the line
edit: looking at them tho, i dont really like how the arms are not adjustable, so the search continues 🫡
def was thinking of just getting that iconic ikea chair everyone reccomends by default
@@SereneRalts it's hard to beat the price or durability of the Ikea one... have you considered a Secret Labs? I sat in one once and it was fantastic. I don't know if I would order it blindly though. Part of me would rather go the Ergnomic route buuut I'm sure the gaming chairs would be dam comfy!
@@TheSAHDLife i have! they look really nice, my current one is a gaming chair, my only gripe is the racing ridges on the side that hold your shoulders in place can kind of get in the way and feel cramped in certian positions
Any recommendation on the charger?
Honestly, I just plug it in to my computer to charge with the usb-c charger I have for my phone. Leave it overnight and it's full then lasts for months! Wish I had a more exciting answer lol
Well it's gona rip the battery life that i k for sure 🥲😬
@@dracul222 Ya? Why do you say that? Teach me!
@@TheSAHDLife i said that bcs that's y i am looking for a charger...
At first I was like, why is Jim Norton doing mouse reviews lol.
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I absolutely hate logitech MX Master 3S. I much preferred razer basilisk because it had such a much better software, it integrates with the OS, meanwhile 3s needs for the windows to fully load for it to work and the software modification for each app is a nightmare.
Luckily for me the only program I need to customize it for is my video editing one and it works fine with that using the Logitech options app. But yeah if it doesn't work for your programs that could be a total pain. The mouse has been great for me but mice are just so custom for so I get that it's not for everyone.
The problem with these productivity mice is the weight. 141 grams in 2023 is absolutely insane and once you start using something like a G Pro X or Deathadder v3 Pro it's impossible to go back to a mouse like the MX Master (though I historically always used those mice and still have an original MX Master)
That's a good point. I guess it really depends on your experience with mice and how you like to use them. I like the weight when I'm doing things like editing photos but I haven't tried those other mice.
@@TheSAHDLife if Logitech can get the weight down on the MX line it would be amazing! Once you use a ~60g mouse for a while it’s hard to go back.
Thank you
Glad you found the video 👊
monitor?
The crazy monitor I had then was the Samsung G9 Odyssey. Now I have (and love) this one: th-cam.com/video/lIfaPYx78LQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=reGRiWTL5h0XfxQQ
I never use wireless, for a lot of reasons. Pity it doesn't have a cable in the box. Plus, i would prefer it more or less vertical.
lol it sounds like you need a different mouse man! Why would you even buy it if you don't want wireless and the specific ergonomics? It's funny, I bought it exactly for the reasons you don't like it.
I'm sure you could find something more or less what you are looking for and it would cost less. I wish I knew more about mice to offer advice.
I hope you find the right one!
@@TheSAHDLife I didn't buy it. I just described what i like.
Yeah I Ridge comment a little too fast in the first place. What's your main reason for not using wireless? I feel like they're so fast nowadays... I rarely have to charge mine. I can't really see any benefit to going wired but I'd love to know more.
Thanks, made my descision easier and based on facts and not on hunges!
Hunges?! Hehe I don't know what you were trying to say there :) Does that mean you are going to get it or not get it 😅
I still love this mouse. I'm using it right now!
@@TheSAHDLife Oops, 2nd language... I meant 'hunch" and yes, I'm already ordered it! The super silent buttons did it! :)
@sarakaster haha amazing! Once you go to silent clicks you can never go back. If you remember let me know what you think once you've had a chance to try it!!
@@TheSAHDLife Since you replied so nicely I am indeed coming back to you. I tried the MX Master 3s for 5 days and have to admit - she's too heavy für me. No, seriously. I therefore ordered the Logitech G502 X LIGHTSPEED and although also not optimal (super loud click sound in comparison!) and in fact too light it's the better compromise for me since I love the two additional buttons right beside the left click area for the index finger.
I would have really loved for "us" to work out but lol but did return the MX Master today...for some reason it just didn't click ;)
Tbh something right in between those two in matter of weight and click volume would be IDEAL!
@@sarakaster Haha that's awesome! At least now you know! And it's a beast for sure. It's like a curling stone. I really like that while photo and video editing.... it's stable. But for gaming it's not the best. I still game with it and don't mind it but I wouldn't mind something lighter for that. Is the one you got a wired mouse?
Logitech just needs to make the G602 again.
I've heard good things about that mouse but never used it myself. Just fit nice in the hand? Good weight?
What monitor is that?
That is the mighty Samsung G9 49'' monitor, lol. Crazy right?
I reviewed it on my channel too because it's so nuts: th-cam.com/video/qgSD8T8kCL4/w-d-xo.html
2:23 to pass the intro
👍 good call. Sometimes it's nice to know why people choose a product. But sometimes it's nice to notice what the product is hehe
Can you tell me the plug wattage for the mouse U.K. thanks
Hmm I'm not sure exactly what you mean. On the mouse it says something about 5.0V with a 500mA battery but it's small and hard to read any other text. Hope that helps.