Hey guys! Just wanted to make slight correction with the Razer Pro Click and Pro Mini's Battery Life. The Razer mice are set to run at a Polling Rate of 500Hz vs Logitech's 125Hz. Hence the shorter battery life. However, if you set Razer's to the same 125Hz Polling Rate, you get an around 116 days on 2.4G. Also wanted to emphasize that the sensor performance of the Razer Mice is MUCH MUCH better than Logitech's offerings.
Out of all the mice reviewed, I am surprised that not a single vertical mouse was included. I have been using the wireless Anker Vertical Ergonomic mouse (model no. AK-98ANWVM-UBA) for five years (yes, the same one) and I really love it-for both productivity AND gaming. I also picked up a wired version (model no. AK-98ANWVM-BA) just over a year ago for a second PC setup, though my pprimary setup still uses the wireless version.
One of the things I hate the most in the Logitech masters line is actually the rubber texture that after 6 months of use gets nasty and sticky even if you don’t sweat from your hands, so actually for me the fact the asus mouse doesn’t have the rubber texture is a big selling point to me!
Been using The MX Master 3 for almost a year and a half. The rubber texture is un perfect condition. The left and right click buttons are justo a bit worn out. I'm a photographer and graphic design student so my daily usage is pretty intense
Especially if you are using the gray. I am using the mx 3 and I can’t remove the makeup stain on it. No matter how many times I try to remove the stain. The Tide Stain Remover pen helped a little bit but did not remove everything.
@@tomasrodriguezrobledo9115 the experience can vary from user to user but I have a mx3 since the release day and my wife also got one last year, our both are sticky and with severe connection issues
In this age of rubbing alcohol everywhere all the time made me actually clean one of those sticky surfaces (not logitech, though, a Microsoft wireless keyboard)... it took a lot of rubbing but eventually it came off. But I agree... those rubber thinguies are a pain in the ** (or like some might say, "foda").
MX Masters have been my daily driver for years, I get one during black friday sales every couple of years. The remaining dongles live in all my project pc's and laptops, allowing a couple of mice to cover them all. I use a Logi 325 as my mobile option.
Strange reason to exclude the MX Anywhere 3. Its wheel is vastly better than the 2S and the button can be remapped ti mid click. I hate pressing the wheel for mid click. The Anywhere 3 is the best mouse I've ever had. Better than the regular MX 3 IMO.
Uhmm. Nowhere near MX 3. Mx 3 has normal shape that a human being can actually use in contrast to anywhere 3. And then horizontal wheel. For the same price. Rofl.
The Logitech the M720 is hands down the mouse I recommend to most people. It's basically a poor man's MX master. It's $40 and goes on sale often. I've used one at my job for 40+ hours a week for over 3 years now.
Yes. Was wondering why i wasnt included in the video. It's cheap, durable, has basically everything you want from mx master for a fraction of its price. Got mine for around $25 (converted)
I have the 2S, I love it, solid build quality, the only downside to it, is there is no middle button, when you click the scrollwheel down, it changes from a smooth scroll to a tactile scroll. I had to program the wheels side clicks to envoke the middle button to open tabs/windows upon clicking links.
No to all this. An MMO Mouse is HUGE on my productivity. I would never go back to mice like those in this video for anything. MMO mice is not just a literal 'game' changer for Gaming but also for productivity from Photoshop to Coding.
I adore the Logi Lift because it's even quieter than the mx 3s. Wish you mentioned click, scroll, and button noise comparison for every mice. I wish the Razer and Asus were more refined so they give more competition to the 3s. Now hoping you do productivity and editing keyboards 💚
Mx Master 3S for the desk and Razer Click Pro Mini for travel/laptop bag because of the AA battery vs inbuilt, silent switches and receiver storage. Looks like I finally have worthwhile upgrades from my Logitech M330 silent plus
Thanks again for the work on your content. Very thankful on your showcase of MX Master 2s. Much prefer it over the new version. I actually modded it to kailh silent for the clicks and mapped gesture button with mouse movement up and down for volume, left and right for desktops for mac, the button itself does mission control for me... scroll wheel left and right for left and right which really helps me skim through youtube content like a breeze. Oh! And left side buttons for forward and previous browser history.
I agree with the Master 2s. I've been using one in my desktop for 15 months and I actually bought another one as a backup, rarely used for my laptop. I haven't found the need or inclination to upgrade to the 3 or 3s.
I have tried a lot of these "productivity" mice including the MX master, but I always jus end up with my gaming mouse (g502 wireless), because it just feels better in the hand and the sensor is far better than any "productivity" mouse. It has a lot of macro buttons and I can assign anything I want to it. Only downside I see with it would be pairing with new multiple devices.
I cannot believe the mx mouse does not get more flak for it's horrible precision or maybe I am being unfair to it since I have been using gaming mice for almost all my life.
@@slutbunwallah mx has no problems with the sensor at all if you set it up properly. And I've probably used like 20+ gaming mice (like top of the line ones, not A4 bloody type) throughout my life, so I know what I'm talking about. And then you miss magnetic vertical wheel, horizontal wheel and thumb gesture button which are just super useful if you are an SE (or just do your work primarily on a computer), so... P.S. And I came to mx3 as the only mouse at home from g703 with charging mat, which IMO currently is one of the best gaming mouse on the market.
@@slutbunwallah The precision is because of the 120hz polling rate, gaming mouse set up to 1000hz. There is nothing you can do about it with MxMaster, is just returned mine today because the precision is horrible in a 144hz screen.
Video was great as always so thank you for this, only one thing that I would call out, this video was around productivity Mice, Most employers provide a device (unless your self employed) and most employers have rules around not installing third party software. So in a round up of productivity mice I think you could also consider how well the mouse works without any software and what features work and do not work without the software, as a lot of people will not be able to down load say the Logitech Hub because of restrictions on third party software. Just a thought guys 😊😊👍👍
I have the Samsung mouse for travel which basically looks exactly the same as the Microsft mouse for travel and it has the back and forward buttons too, it feels very premium. I also have 2 Logitech M720 Triathlons which are a great mouse with premium looks and feeling and the battery last a couple or more years!
I have a Microsoft Pro Intellimouse, and I find to be great for productivity use. The sensor is probably overkill for me, but I have it set so I don't have to move it very much to get across the screen. It's precise enough so I can control it easily. The customization options are good as well from programming the buttons to adjusting the led taillight. And the dark color version is only $32.99 on Amazon now. I was looking at getting a second one to have in reserve. Since it stays on my desk plugged into a USB-C hub, I didn't really need a wireless mouse. I like that I don't have to worry about a battery or wireless issues. I will say these all would look cleaner than having that black cord on the desktop though!
Good Round Up Video! However let me throw my 2 cents as a programmer. I have yet to find a "productivity" mouse, which is better than some of the high end gaming mice. Let me elaborate. Most productivity mice are lacking buttons (which can be programmed based on the user's preference), apart from the MX Master 3/S. They are also very heavy! This is an issue as people who buy productivity mice, actually care about ergonomics and weight is maybe the biggest part in that (wrist pain is noone's friend) ! As for the MX Master 3, while it does boast stupid long battery life per charge, has a solid wireless connection and has all the buttons you may need, its still very heavy and has a couple of very big quirks that are bad. 1st is the thumb button. While the idea is good, the implementation is lackluster! It feels quite awkward to reach as its extended quite a bit and it feels hard to click (only exacerbated by the mouse's weight and you need to lift your thumb from the side, making the mouse unstable). The best thumb button, yet to be beat is from Roccat's Tyon and Nyth, hands down! Easiest thing to use ever (sadly both discontinued; maybe the new Kone XP will fill the gap?)! 2nd and very important (not mentioned almost anywhere!) is that the mouse setting are kept on the cloud and not in internal memory. This is very bad for a lot of the programmers working for big tech as use of 3rd party software on company PCs is hard and cumbersome to get approval for (even impossible in some cases). Also using the mouse with your own custom settings on another computer or VNC (which many work from) is impossible! Heck Logitech's own gaming mice have this, so why dont their "pro" products!? Anyway in my opinion there are still better gaming mice for productivity purposes out there due to the above reasons.
The Logitech MX Master series is really unrivaled, in my opinion. I still have an original MX1 that is at least 7 years old and still works like when it was new. I never bothered getting a MX2. There just was no reason to with the MX1 still going strong. However, I did get a MX3 when they came out, just because, and it is what stays on my desk. I have to throw the Logitech M720 in he ring for the best bang for the buck though. It can be used with Bluetooth, 2.4 GHz, wired, and the included 2.4 GHz receiver is a Unifying receiver to boot. It has pretty much all of the same functionality as the MX Master series and can be found under 30 bucks. The M720 is what I keep in my tool bag and it goes everywhere with me. The most important feature for me with ANY mouse is the "Infinity" scroll wheel. Even on my gaming mice, it's a must have. I ended up replacing a Basilisk v2 with a v3 just because of the scroll wheel, even though the v3 is wired.
I have been using using MX Master 2 for 6 years now. It is worth every cent! But since last 2-3 months I have noticed that my gesture button sometimes gives up. There are some workarounds available online which involves opening up mouse and loosening some screws to make this work but I will pass on that. I will be getting MX Master 3S today! (And yeah even with the gesture button issue, I will still rate MX Master 2 - 5/5 stars for the beast it has been since last 6 years)
Logitech 720 triathlon is one of the best for productivity, it many programmable buttons, very compact and battery lasts about a year. Very similar to MX master but cheaper and much better than MX Anywhere, it also comes with Logitech Options and Flow software.
There’s something the marathon has that the triathlon doesn’t. I can’t recall what it is. I had the MX Anywhere 2s and bought it at a bargain, but can’t find one locally for the same price after my wheel gave out after a drop. Thinking of the triathlon, but not sure.
I have the Logitech MX Anywhere 2 and it does have a freespin / infinite scroll function, toggled by pressing down on the scroll wheel. The wheel is pleasingly weighted and will keep spinning for several seconds if you give it a good flick. The 2S will likely have this too.
The Swiftpoint Z isn't wireless and it's pretty expensive ($150ish I think), but it's the most advanced mouse I've ever seen. It's got too many bells and whistles for me to go into, but the ones I use the most are the buttons placed behind the left and right mouse that sit behind your fingertips and below your knuckles, most of which have additional inputs based on how hard you press them, the gyroscope in the mouse which lets you bake different inputs into specific tilt angles (i.e. tilting the mouse 3 degrees to the right to change left mouse to "Ctrl+A" and/or the scroll wheel to scroll left and right), the OLED screen on the side of the mouse that displays your current profile, tilt angle, or a custom message, and the variable vibration feature that you can add to any chain of inputs (so you're not just tilting the mouse blindly or second guessing if you trigger a certain input). It also has on-board memory so you don't need to boot up it's software to make use of your macros. It takes some getting used to, mainly in the mouse's program (both its UI and setting up outputs) and its ergonomics, but it's such a unique piece of technology that deserves more love than it gets. I think it's marketed towards gamers but in my experience it excels at general navigation and productivity.
Not sure what jobs you're all doing but I love using my G600 MMO mouse at work. Moving cut/copy/paste, clipboard history, desktop switching, snipping tool and tons of other functions to my right thumb saves me a ton of time and fatigue on my left pinky.
I currently use the Logitech G600 and I can control all multimedia and browser functions without using the keyboard. When I have the money, I would like to get the Brydge W Touch Trackpad to get smooth scrolling when programming and web browsing and gestures for certain apps for my desktop.
It's because there is this kind of a trend going on with a rather forced separation line between "productivity" products and "gaming" products. Especially with productivity, it became such a prominent catchphrase that everyone picked up on it and now we have useless products carrying that moniker. I mean seriously, just look at that Microsoft mouse. Absolute garbage with no side buttons even. I maintain that many gaming mice are better at productivity stuff compared to mice actually marketed as productivity mice. It's just that it isn't marketed as such and doesn't fit the "clean office" aesthetic. Which is also quite a trend these days, and I'd reckon real busy offices don't look like they only exist in a magazine. Having pretty products is a nice bonus, but prioritizing that hurts functionality.
using G304 and G502 as my working mouse, swapped the silent switches for the G304 and it is good for normal office use. While G502 has enough buttons for me to do simple photo and video editing. Not to mention they are good for some gaming sessions during breaks.
The logitech G300s by no means a productivity-focused mouse, but the 4 extra buttons have helped me get work done A LOT faster (I basically spend +9 hrs a day on a laptop) Comfort is important indeed but sometimes having an extra shortcut on your mouse instead of your keyboard can save you a couple of seconds for every click, which adds up to a lot in the end
My girlfriend used a cheapo free office HP mouse for years and always complained about wrist issues and hitching. I FINALLY convinced her to buy a MX Master 3 (on sale, $63) and all her problems vanished in a week. Her employer even payed for it. Horizontal scrolling in excel, best scrolling ever and working on every surface makes it a tremendous mouse
I use Logitech M575 trackball (~$50) and it’s amazing for productivity. Gestures feel much better than on mouse (no need to “reposition” after a gesture), build quality is great and battery lasts for half a year. Best productivity pointing device I have ever used
something to note, the amazon basics ergo mouse you showed is also actually branded as a targus with bluetrace and bluetooth for a little more, i've been looking at it as a cheaper alternative to an mx master and couldn't find any real feedback about them, this video changes that!
I love my mx anywhere 2s, its fantastic. I would have been happy if they just upgraded it to usd c. The mx anywhere 3 is good, but I miss not having the left/right buttons on scroll wheel and the grooved rubber grips on the sides of the 3 have a horid feel.
Video is quite nice, but the grip style that is used in the video is not called claw grip, its finger tip. Finger tip works by touching the mouse only with tips of the fingers, palm grip users touch mouse with the hole hand (and fingers). The claw grip is a mix of those, you can touch the mouse with some of the palm area and only tips of the fingers!
Can you also talk about the sensor performance? I have a MX master 3, and the 125hz puling rate is killing me. The lag and inpercise cursor is really bothering my workflow.
Dudes and dudettes: You can use any of these mice with something called a "vertical mousepad". It's been helping me out with the ergonomics factor of using a mouse. Good luck shopping around. Orb control makes one called Mouseramp.
Still rocking my MX Anywhere 2s for 4 years now. I bought an MX Master but it's big and heavy and it doesn't have a left/right button on the scroll wheel. I think the major complaint I have is that you need a logitech software installed to map the buttons and for them to work. It would be in "default" setting if connected wihout it. With such a high price tag, it's strange it doesn't have a built-in memory for mapping buttons considering it doesn't have a default scroll button.
I've been using Razer Pro Click Mini as my main mouse since January 2022, and have 2 things to add about it. 1) It has 1000 Hz polling rate (I believe you've mentioned it in your review video) - a rare feature among non-gamer mice. It's a big deal if you have a high refresh rate monitor. I'm using a 144 Hz monitor and previously tried Logitech MK470 and Xiaomi Mi Dual Mode Silent Edition - both with polling rate of just 125 Hz and that made any operations unbearable. Constant lag and loss of any precision due to the cursor being refreshed in a rather erratic manner. 2) Build quality is not so great. Within first 2 months of use, the shell started to rattle/squeak. I don't hear it most of the time, since I adjusted the strength of my grip. However, previously I've used Logitech G305 both for gaming and productivity - and it's shell remains inaudible after months of regular usage.
I have the Razer Pro Click and I am on my third one. First two I had to RMA. I've tried other productivity mice like the MX Master and haven't found anything that fits what I want like the Pro Click which is unfortunate because they fail easily. It has the best sensor, polling rate, and shape for my hands. It's also light for a productivity mice which is great as someone who has wrist issues.
Man... it would take a lot to get me to move away from the MX Master. I have the original still be used on an older system. I can't say the same about the smaller Logi that I've gotten for my laptop. Had a lot of switch failures on those. But the MX Master series has been rock solid for me.
For anyone who doesn't want to fork out a lot of money, I recommend the Logitech M590, it's like the cheaper version of MX Anywhere 2s. It's silent, it has Logitech Flow, 2 left thumb buttons, horizontal scrolls, remappable buttons & can pair with multiple devices. Powered by single AA battery. You can use it on dongle or Bluetooth mode. If you don't need silent then you can get the M585 model instead. EDIT: This mouse is not great for gaming tho. If you're doing things like office work that doesn't require very high dpi settings then the M590/M585 should do just fine for you.
Eh, isn't the best mouse for gaming automatically the best mouse for productivity? For me it is anyway. I want it to be light, sufficiently big for my hands (which are big) and in my case a palmgrip. I want a few side-buttons (easy for some games in which you use the mouse anyway, like StarCraft2, 4 mouse buttons is ideal for camera-locations) but 4 is plenty. Obviously you want the highest-quality sensor, no matter what you use the mouse for, a lower quality sensor never is a feature.Obvoiusly you want a good click-mechianism.
The huge problem for me with the mx master 3/3s is the weight. I can’t stand how much it weights, don’t care if it’s not a gaming mouse am not looking for a 50g productivity mouse but 141g is too much.
sorry man but from the video I didn't find a mouse for my needs. Would you be able to recommend me a BUDGET mouse to use for Office tasks. It has to be: 1) good for mid to large fingers (i.e., biggerish hands) 2) cable-free 3) no latency felt when moving the pointer or clicking thanks a lot
would be great to also get a mention of the Linux systems, like Windows and Mac are mentioned, though I understand that there might be a slight difference between distributions, with just having an overall idea of the general usage, like what happens with regards to not having the applications to configure them? Does it default to some specific settings or become completely useless? Is it configurable under Gnome?
Hi there, Nice video, what about Mouse that work in Linux, I know some say linux in the box and then the software will not work in Linux? Obrigado(Thanks)
My gripe about all the high-end mice is here is that the Rapoo MT750 did better job of handling multiple connections. I don't understand why the connection toggles are at the bottom. Sure Logitech has a software for it but I'd rather not have bloat on my PC and not all companies allow you in install software let alone dumb stuff that comes from these companies. Problem with the Rapoo MT750 is that the mice has a cheap sensor.
Just putting this out there but I added a Kensington Orbit trackball to my desk and I really feel that it adds comfort especially when I'm doing office tasks. There are times you don't need normal mouse precision and a trackball has this benefit of always being in the same spot.
Since the software / firmware was resolved, the MM731 is - light, wireless, BT and 2.4, has 2 thumb buttons. Comes with grips, for something simple, what more can you get for the coin?
the razer basilisk x hyperspeed is what i use - it's literally a regular right handed ergo mouse. with the razer branding. solid product overall. since synapse absolutely sucks, i use x-mouse button control to map buttons 4 and 5!
Yea. Just buy it on discount and get a decent mouse with good build quality for cheap instead of all this low quality garbage. I've the 2019 Basilisk, it's great for regular desktop use, not so good for gaming for me tho lol, too big for my hand 😂
Powerusers often get problems with tendons, typically the carpal channel syndrome, so which mouse is the healthiest (for a future test) ? Are there any alternatives worth the learn curve?
Just ran across the Microsoft Arc mouse. Love the scroll pad, and especially the thinness if stored flat. Only mouse i know that fits any sleeve for my Laptop. I use Logitech Anywhere 3 at my desk.
Dealing with spreadsheets with 70+ columns the thumb wheel on the Logitech MX Master 3 or 3s is a game changer, whenever I use a different mouse I always move my thumb to scroll left and right and am massively disappointed.
Easier switching between devices is a nice bonus, but peripherals could also be plugged into many modern monitors. This is an easy way to switch between systems while using the same monitor.
7:54 This one won't last 3 years without the famous double click problem, it's my 3rd Logitech with this issue. I moved to Razer Pro Click, which has a "60 million" click guaranteed mechanical switch.
I hate the MX3 for it’s weight and balance. Couldn’t even do my spreadsheets with it and went back to a gaming mouse, which is a shame. Loved those wheels.
I believe a lot of people is sleeping over the Logitech M720 Triathlon. It costs just US$40 at the moment and is a wonderfull, simple and very confortable. I mean, this thing is really, really confortable. It has the multi devices features from Logitech and a scroll wheel that changes to fast spin with a click of a button. It is excelent.
Just about to get a new mouse for my mac and here comes this video. Would be better if you add the dimensions and weight of the mice at the beginning of each segment. 😆
Many years ago, I bought an induction battery free optical mouse by Dexlan. This is no longer offered any more. Are there any of this type of mouse that is available these days? Thanks
Rechargable batteries as an investment is relative. I can buy 4 triple As and its charger for the price of 10 non-rechargeable triple As And those 4 rechargeable batteries will last me longer than 20 non-rechargeable. And once you got the charger, buying just the batteries is even cheaper.
Hey guys! Just wanted to make slight correction with the Razer Pro Click and Pro Mini's Battery Life. The Razer mice are set to run at a Polling Rate of 500Hz vs Logitech's 125Hz. Hence the shorter battery life. However, if you set Razer's to the same 125Hz Polling Rate, you get an around 116 days on 2.4G. Also wanted to emphasize that the sensor performance of the Razer Mice is MUCH MUCH better than Logitech's offerings.
ok, still not interested in downloading Razer spyware tho
@@aiqbal02 what's that? Explain it👀
@@si___ That's Razer software for every Razer device, super sh*tty piece of software to be honest, heavy for the system
My favor mouse is M705 (Logi), I have been using it for years.
Been using pro click around 2 years. Battery life is around 11 days on 2.4G only.
Out of all the mice reviewed, I am surprised that not a single vertical mouse was included. I have been using the wireless Anker Vertical Ergonomic mouse (model no. AK-98ANWVM-UBA) for five years (yes, the same one) and I really love it-for both productivity AND gaming. I also picked up a wired version (model no. AK-98ANWVM-BA) just over a year ago for a second PC setup, though my pprimary setup still uses the wireless version.
One of the things I hate the most in the Logitech masters line is actually the rubber texture that after 6 months of use gets nasty and sticky even if you don’t sweat from your hands, so actually for me the fact the asus mouse doesn’t have the rubber texture is a big selling point to me!
Been using The MX Master 3 for almost a year and a half. The rubber texture is un perfect condition. The left and right click buttons are justo a bit worn out.
I'm a photographer and graphic design student so my daily usage is pretty intense
Especially if you are using the gray. I am using the mx 3 and I can’t remove the makeup stain on it. No matter how many times I try to remove the stain. The Tide Stain Remover pen helped a little bit but did not remove everything.
@@tomasrodriguezrobledo9115 the experience can vary from user to user but I have a mx3 since the release day and my wife also got one last year, our both are sticky and with severe connection issues
In this age of rubbing alcohol everywhere all the time made me actually clean one of those sticky surfaces (not logitech, though, a Microsoft wireless keyboard)... it took a lot of rubbing but eventually it came off. But I agree... those rubber thinguies are a pain in the ** (or like some might say, "foda").
my mx master 2 dead after 1year( and i get both same lifespan) so not sure is the qc bad or i just got bad copy
Using G703 Lightspeed for gaming and Logitech M720 to work for years now.
Can recommend both of them easily.
MX Masters have been my daily driver for years, I get one during black friday sales every couple of years. The remaining dongles live in all my project pc's and laptops, allowing a couple of mice to cover them all. I use a Logi 325 as my mobile option.
Strange reason to exclude the MX Anywhere 3. Its wheel is vastly better than the 2S and the button can be remapped ti mid click. I hate pressing the wheel for mid click. The Anywhere 3 is the best mouse I've ever had. Better than the regular MX 3 IMO.
He talked abt the 3S which is newer and improved.
I would buy it if it has silent clicks
Uhmm. Nowhere near MX 3. Mx 3 has normal shape that a human being can actually use in contrast to anywhere 3. And then horizontal wheel. For the same price. Rofl.
The MX3 Mousewheel is horrible and I regret buying it, See reddit for the complaints of many others...
@@jensh.2595 I've had no complaints with mine tbh. Been using it for a year now, and it's remained pretty much the same.
The lighting in this video is excellent...!
The Logitech the M720 is hands down the mouse I recommend to most people. It's basically a poor man's MX master. It's $40 and goes on sale often. I've used one at my job for 40+ hours a week for over 3 years now.
Couldn’t agree more, the M720 coupled with Logitech’s software is the perfect productivity mouse imo.
it's more like a mx anywhere considering size and lack of a horizontal scrollwhell
YES! M720 is my go to productivity mouse to recommend to anyone. Sometimes going for as low as USD40. 2 year battery life.
@@sunjames3276 yeah that's true
Yes. Was wondering why i wasnt included in the video. It's cheap, durable, has basically everything you want from mx master for a fraction of its price. Got mine for around $25 (converted)
I have the 2S, I love it, solid build quality, the only downside to it, is there is no middle button, when you click the scrollwheel down, it changes from a smooth scroll to a tactile scroll. I had to program the wheels side clicks to envoke the middle button to open tabs/windows upon clicking links.
I have the anywhere 2s and I had the same issue, instead I just made the center button under the scroll wheel into middle click
No to all this. An MMO Mouse is HUGE on my productivity. I would never go back to mice like those in this video for anything. MMO mice is not just a literal 'game' changer for Gaming but also for productivity from Photoshop to Coding.
I agree with you. However, I think it depends on your specific use case. An MMO mouse is for someone who uses a A LOT of shortcut.
I use an MMO mouse (G600) but how would it be used with coding?
The higher up you move in your job, the less buttons you need on your mouse because people will be doing those tasks for you
The MX Anywhere 2S also have the free-wheeling scroll, you just have to press the scroll until the physical click and voilà.
I adore the Logi Lift because it's even quieter than the mx 3s. Wish you mentioned click, scroll, and button noise comparison for every mice. I wish the Razer and Asus were more refined so they give more competition to the 3s.
Now hoping you do productivity and editing keyboards 💚
Mx Master 3S for the desk and Razer Click Pro Mini for travel/laptop bag because of the AA battery vs inbuilt, silent switches and receiver storage.
Looks like I finally have worthwhile upgrades from my Logitech M330 silent plus
Thanks again for the work on your content. Very thankful on your showcase of MX Master 2s. Much prefer it over the new version. I actually modded it to kailh silent for the clicks and mapped gesture button with mouse movement up and down for volume, left and right for desktops for mac, the button itself does mission control for me... scroll wheel left and right for left and right which really helps me skim through youtube content like a breeze. Oh! And left side buttons for forward and previous browser history.
I agree with the Master 2s. I've been using one in my desktop for 15 months and I actually bought another one as a backup, rarely used for my laptop. I haven't found the need or inclination to upgrade to the 3 or 3s.
I have tried a lot of these "productivity" mice including the MX master, but I always jus end up with my gaming mouse (g502 wireless), because it just feels better in the hand and the sensor is far better than any "productivity" mouse. It has a lot of macro buttons and I can assign anything I want to it. Only downside I see with it would be pairing with new multiple devices.
I cannot believe the mx mouse does not get more flak for it's horrible precision or maybe I am being unfair to it since I have been using gaming mice for almost all my life.
@@slutbunwallah mx has no problems with the sensor at all if you set it up properly. And I've probably used like 20+ gaming mice (like top of the line ones, not A4 bloody type) throughout my life, so I know what I'm talking about. And then you miss magnetic vertical wheel, horizontal wheel and thumb gesture button which are just super useful if you are an SE (or just do your work primarily on a computer), so...
P.S. And I came to mx3 as the only mouse at home from g703 with charging mat, which IMO currently is one of the best gaming mouse on the market.
Logitech's high-end gaming and productivity mice share the same sensor.
@@balkeep What do you mean by setting up properly? I must be missing something. Is there a video or something you could point me to?
@@slutbunwallah The precision is because of the 120hz polling rate, gaming mouse set up to 1000hz. There is nothing you can do about it with MxMaster, is just returned mine today because the precision is horrible in a 144hz screen.
Video was great as always so thank you for this, only one thing that I would call out, this video was around productivity Mice, Most employers provide a device (unless your self employed) and most employers have rules around not installing third party software. So in a round up of productivity mice I think you could also consider how well the mouse works without any software and what features work and do not work without the software, as a lot of people will not be able to down load say the Logitech Hub because of restrictions on third party software. Just a thought guys 😊😊👍👍
I have the Samsung mouse for travel which basically looks exactly the same as the Microsft mouse for travel and it has the back and forward buttons too, it feels very premium. I also have 2 Logitech M720 Triathlons which are a great mouse with premium looks and feeling and the battery last a couple or more years!
I have a Microsoft Pro Intellimouse, and I find to be great for productivity use. The sensor is probably overkill for me, but I have it set so I don't have to move it very much to get across the screen. It's precise enough so I can control it easily. The customization options are good as well from programming the buttons to adjusting the led taillight.
And the dark color version is only $32.99 on Amazon now. I was looking at getting a second one to have in reserve.
Since it stays on my desk plugged into a USB-C hub, I didn't really need a wireless mouse. I like that I don't have to worry about a battery or wireless issues.
I will say these all would look cleaner than having that black cord on the desktop though!
Good Round Up Video!
However let me throw my 2 cents as a programmer.
I have yet to find a "productivity" mouse, which is better than some of the high end gaming mice. Let me elaborate.
Most productivity mice are lacking buttons (which can be programmed based on the user's preference), apart from the MX Master 3/S.
They are also very heavy! This is an issue as people who buy productivity mice, actually care about ergonomics and weight is maybe the biggest part in that (wrist pain is noone's friend) !
As for the MX Master 3, while it does boast stupid long battery life per charge, has a solid wireless connection and has all the buttons you may need, its still very heavy and has a couple of very big quirks that are bad.
1st is the thumb button. While the idea is good, the implementation is lackluster! It feels quite awkward to reach as its extended quite a bit and it feels hard to click (only exacerbated by the mouse's weight and you need to lift your thumb from the side, making the mouse unstable). The best thumb button, yet to be beat is from Roccat's Tyon and Nyth, hands down! Easiest thing to use ever (sadly both discontinued; maybe the new Kone XP will fill the gap?)!
2nd and very important (not mentioned almost anywhere!) is that the mouse setting are kept on the cloud and not in internal memory. This is very bad for a lot of the programmers working for big tech as use of 3rd party software on company PCs is hard and cumbersome to get approval for (even impossible in some cases). Also using the mouse with your own custom settings on another computer or VNC (which many work from) is impossible! Heck Logitech's own gaming mice have this, so why dont their "pro" products!?
Anyway in my opinion there are still better gaming mice for productivity purposes out there due to the above reasons.
I use a g903 lightspeed for work and gaming. Never had a issue and you can add/remove buttons as needed.
The Logitech MX Master series is really unrivaled, in my opinion. I still have an original MX1 that is at least 7 years old and still works like when it was new. I never bothered getting a MX2. There just was no reason to with the MX1 still going strong. However, I did get a MX3 when they came out, just because, and it is what stays on my desk. I have to throw the Logitech M720 in he ring for the best bang for the buck though. It can be used with Bluetooth, 2.4 GHz, wired, and the included 2.4 GHz receiver is a Unifying receiver to boot. It has pretty much all of the same functionality as the MX Master series and can be found under 30 bucks. The M720 is what I keep in my tool bag and it goes everywhere with me. The most important feature for me with ANY mouse is the "Infinity" scroll wheel. Even on my gaming mice, it's a must have. I ended up replacing a Basilisk v2 with a v3 just because of the scroll wheel, even though the v3 is wired.
I have been using using MX Master 2 for 6 years now. It is worth every cent!
But since last 2-3 months I have noticed that my gesture button sometimes gives up. There are some workarounds available online which involves opening up mouse and loosening some screws to make this work but I will pass on that. I will be getting MX Master 3S today! (And yeah even with the gesture button issue, I will still rate MX Master 2 - 5/5 stars for the beast it has been since last 6 years)
Logitech 720 triathlon is one of the best for productivity, it many programmable buttons, very compact and battery lasts about a year. Very similar to MX master but cheaper and much better than MX Anywhere, it also comes with Logitech Options and Flow software.
The thing I like about the triathlon is when you switch to your other devices, you don't need to click the bottom of your mice.
MY favorite mouse by far!
There’s something the marathon has that the triathlon doesn’t. I can’t recall what it is. I had the MX Anywhere 2s and bought it at a bargain, but can’t find one locally for the same price after my wheel gave out after a drop. Thinking of the triathlon, but not sure.
anywhere 2s material and wheel way better than 720
@@claytondelanie triatlon wheel and materials worse than 2s
Great video. I just picket up a MX Anywhere 2s for 30 bucks from Amazon and I can't help but feel I gamed the system. Great advice.
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You should include "mmo" mice
12+ buttons for possible shortcuts = infinite productivity
I have the Logitech MX Anywhere 2 and it does have a freespin / infinite scroll function, toggled by pressing down on the scroll wheel. The wheel is pleasingly weighted and will keep spinning for several seconds if you give it a good flick. The 2S will likely have this too.
The 2s does as well - I have it
Didn’t even watch the whole video yet but already hitting the like, always enjoy your reviews! very depth and informative
The Swiftpoint Z isn't wireless and it's pretty expensive ($150ish I think), but it's the most advanced mouse I've ever seen. It's got too many bells and whistles for me to go into, but the ones I use the most are the buttons placed behind the left and right mouse that sit behind your fingertips and below your knuckles, most of which have additional inputs based on how hard you press them, the gyroscope in the mouse which lets you bake different inputs into specific tilt angles (i.e. tilting the mouse 3 degrees to the right to change left mouse to "Ctrl+A" and/or the scroll wheel to scroll left and right), the OLED screen on the side of the mouse that displays your current profile, tilt angle, or a custom message, and the variable vibration feature that you can add to any chain of inputs (so you're not just tilting the mouse blindly or second guessing if you trigger a certain input). It also has on-board memory so you don't need to boot up it's software to make use of your macros. It takes some getting used to, mainly in the mouse's program (both its UI and setting up outputs) and its ergonomics, but it's such a unique piece of technology that deserves more love than it gets. I think it's marketed towards gamers but in my experience it excels at general navigation and productivity.
Not sure what jobs you're all doing but I love using my G600 MMO mouse at work. Moving cut/copy/paste, clipboard history, desktop switching, snipping tool and tons of other functions to my right thumb saves me a ton of time and fatigue on my left pinky.
Which keyboard is that at 10:58? Link please?
I currently use the Logitech G600 and I can control all multimedia and browser functions without using the keyboard. When I have the money, I would like to get the Brydge W Touch Trackpad to get smooth scrolling when programming and web browsing and gestures for certain apps for my desktop.
why exclude mmorpg mices since they do the job more proefficiently whith all the macro
maybe they are preparing a "best mmorpg mices"
@@domisollarefa7129 but they are ergonomics too so i dont understand why not add them in aswell for the trackball that many peeps at my work use
I got the Logi MX Master 3(not S) for 45€. Nothing can beat it at that price. The scroll wheel is just a game-changer.
I’m surprised I didn’t see the g502 light speed anywhere, 11 buttons, free scroll and ergonomic. Expensive but worth it
It's because there is this kind of a trend going on with a rather forced separation line between "productivity" products and "gaming" products. Especially with productivity, it became such a prominent catchphrase that everyone picked up on it and now we have useless products carrying that moniker.
I mean seriously, just look at that Microsoft mouse. Absolute garbage with no side buttons even.
I maintain that many gaming mice are better at productivity stuff compared to mice actually marketed as productivity mice. It's just that it isn't marketed as such and doesn't fit the "clean office" aesthetic. Which is also quite a trend these days, and I'd reckon real busy offices don't look like they only exist in a magazine.
Having pretty products is a nice bonus, but prioritizing that hurts functionality.
using G304 and G502 as my working mouse, swapped the silent switches for the G304 and it is good for normal office use. While G502 has enough buttons for me to do simple photo and video editing. Not to mention they are good for some gaming sessions during breaks.
The logitech G300s
by no means a productivity-focused mouse, but the 4 extra buttons have helped me get work done A LOT faster (I basically spend +9 hrs a day on a laptop)
Comfort is important indeed but sometimes having an extra shortcut on your mouse instead of your keyboard can save you a couple of seconds for every click, which adds up to a lot in the end
I'm still rocking my Anywhere Mx Gen 1!
Just the video I was looking for, can always count on you guys!
What exactly make a mouse gaming or productivity mouse???
My girlfriend used a cheapo free office HP mouse for years and always complained about wrist issues and hitching. I FINALLY convinced her to buy a MX Master 3 (on sale, $63) and all her problems vanished in a week. Her employer even payed for it. Horizontal scrolling in excel, best scrolling ever and working on every surface makes it a tremendous mouse
I use Logitech M575 trackball (~$50) and it’s amazing for productivity. Gestures feel much better than on mouse (no need to “reposition” after a gesture), build quality is great and battery lasts for half a year. Best productivity pointing device I have ever used
something to note, the amazon basics ergo mouse you showed is also actually branded as a targus with bluetrace and bluetooth for a little more, i've been looking at it as a cheaper alternative to an mx master and couldn't find any real feedback about them, this video changes that!
What exactly is the difference to a gaming mouse? Input speed?
I love my mx anywhere 2s, its fantastic. I would have been happy if they just upgraded it to usd c. The mx anywhere 3 is good, but I miss not having the left/right buttons on scroll wheel and the grooved rubber grips on the sides of the 3 have a horid feel.
Video is quite nice, but the grip style that is used in the video is not called claw grip, its finger tip. Finger tip works by touching the mouse only with tips of the fingers, palm grip users touch mouse with the hole hand (and fingers). The claw grip is a mix of those, you can touch the mouse with some of the palm area and only tips of the fingers!
Although I should also add that you can use a some sort of combination of those mouse grips.
Can you also talk about the sensor performance? I have a MX master 3, and the 125hz puling rate is killing me. The lag and inpercise cursor is really bothering my workflow.
Dudes and dudettes: You can use any of these mice with something called a "vertical mousepad". It's been helping me out with the ergonomics factor of using a mouse. Good luck shopping around. Orb control makes one called Mouseramp.
Excellent comparison. Thanks!
Hi ! Nice and useful vid ! Can I ask what chair is the one you're using ?
Loving G502 for both gaming and office work.
Thank you! I love this guy
love the last sentence,
Still rocking my MX Anywhere 2s for 4 years now. I bought an MX Master but it's big and heavy and it doesn't have a left/right button on the scroll wheel. I think the major complaint I have is that you need a logitech software installed to map the buttons and for them to work. It would be in "default" setting if connected wihout it. With such a high price tag, it's strange it doesn't have a built-in memory for mapping buttons considering it doesn't have a default scroll button.
"writing code"
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Tough to find good ambiextrous mice with side buttons (I'm a lefty). I'm almost buying a second Razer Viper to bring to work. Love this mouse!
I've been using Razer Pro Click Mini as my main mouse since January 2022, and have 2 things to add about it.
1) It has 1000 Hz polling rate (I believe you've mentioned it in your review video) - a rare feature among non-gamer mice. It's a big deal if you have a high refresh rate monitor. I'm using a 144 Hz monitor and previously tried Logitech MK470 and Xiaomi Mi Dual Mode Silent Edition - both with polling rate of just 125 Hz and that made any operations unbearable. Constant lag and loss of any precision due to the cursor being refreshed in a rather erratic manner.
2) Build quality is not so great. Within first 2 months of use, the shell started to rattle/squeak. I don't hear it most of the time, since I adjusted the strength of my grip. However, previously I've used Logitech G305 both for gaming and productivity - and it's shell remains inaudible after months of regular usage.
I have the Razer Pro Click and I am on my third one. First two I had to RMA. I've tried other productivity mice like the MX Master and haven't found anything that fits what I want like the Pro Click which is unfortunate because they fail easily. It has the best sensor, polling rate, and shape for my hands. It's also light for a productivity mice which is great as someone who has wrist issues.
Man... it would take a lot to get me to move away from the MX Master. I have the original still be used on an older system. I can't say the same about the smaller Logi that I've gotten for my laptop. Had a lot of switch failures on those. But the MX Master series has been rock solid for me.
For anyone who doesn't want to fork out a lot of money, I recommend the Logitech M590, it's like the cheaper version of MX Anywhere 2s.
It's silent, it has Logitech Flow, 2 left thumb buttons, horizontal scrolls, remappable buttons & can pair with multiple devices. Powered by single AA battery. You can use it on dongle or Bluetooth mode.
If you don't need silent then you can get the M585 model instead.
EDIT: This mouse is not great for gaming tho. If you're doing things like office work that doesn't require very high dpi settings then the M590/M585 should do just fine for you.
Same, enjoying my m590 so much. Battery life is great, cant even rmb when was the last time i replaced it!
I used the M585 for about two years, highly recommend. The single AA battery lasts over 6 months, and the buttons are configurable
@@pacifico4999 my M590 is 3yo now & still going strong, apart from the rubber grip getting a little sticky that's all.
Eh, isn't the best mouse for gaming automatically the best mouse for productivity? For me it is anyway. I want it to be light, sufficiently big for my hands (which are big) and in my case a palmgrip. I want a few side-buttons (easy for some games in which you use the mouse anyway, like StarCraft2, 4 mouse buttons is ideal for camera-locations) but 4 is plenty. Obviously you want the highest-quality sensor, no matter what you use the mouse for, a lower quality sensor never is a feature.Obvoiusly you want a good click-mechianism.
pro tip: since some cad software need scrolling with middle button. with the logitech mice you can make the forward/back button the gesture button
The huge problem for me with the mx master 3/3s is the weight. I can’t stand how much it weights, don’t care if it’s not a gaming mouse am not looking for a 50g productivity mouse but 141g is too much.
Thank you for this video!
3:30... like the battery cover you just put on the table? :D
sorry man but from the video I didn't find a mouse for my needs. Would you be able to recommend me a BUDGET mouse to use for Office tasks. It has to be:
1) good for mid to large fingers (i.e., biggerish hands)
2) cable-free
3) no latency felt when moving the pointer or clicking
thanks a lot
would be great to also get a mention of the Linux systems, like Windows and Mac are mentioned, though I understand that there might be a slight difference between distributions, with just having an overall idea of the general usage, like what happens with regards to not having the applications to configure them? Does it default to some specific settings or become completely useless? Is it configurable under Gnome?
Hi there,
Nice video, what about Mouse that work in Linux, I know some say linux in the box and then the software will not work in Linux?
Obrigado(Thanks)
thank you!!! beautifully informed. One love
I have yet to find a good mouse that is compatible with Macs and doesn’t lag. Any recommendations?
Thanks for the review! Have the connectivity issues been ironed out on the logitech mice when used with macbook M1 pro?
I've had the Anywhere 2 for 5 years and the build quality holds up.
My gripe about all the high-end mice is here is that the Rapoo MT750 did better job of handling multiple connections. I don't understand why the connection toggles are at the bottom. Sure Logitech has a software for it but I'd rather not have bloat on my PC and not all companies allow you in install software let alone dumb stuff that comes from these companies.
Problem with the Rapoo MT750 is that the mice has a cheap sensor.
Just putting this out there but I added a Kensington Orbit trackball to my desk and I really feel that it adds comfort especially when I'm doing office tasks. There are times you don't need normal mouse precision and a trackball has this benefit of always being in the same spot.
I just purchased Logitech Signature M650 and I love it must try it.
Since the software / firmware was resolved, the MM731 is - light, wireless, BT and 2.4, has 2 thumb buttons. Comes with grips, for something simple, what more can you get for the coin?
Amaring review! Would you still recommend the MX Vertical? Or other vertical mice?
@Javier Goldman Thanks I'll look at it too
i find the G502X Plus a good choice, good for gaming and also good for productivity. Only problem is price
I literally spent like three hours the last couple days looking for a video similar to this! 😂
the razer basilisk x hyperspeed is what i use - it's literally a regular right handed ergo mouse. with the razer branding. solid product overall. since synapse absolutely sucks, i use x-mouse button control to map buttons 4 and 5!
Yea. Just buy it on discount and get a decent mouse with good build quality for cheap instead of all this low quality garbage.
I've the 2019 Basilisk, it's great for regular desktop use, not so good for gaming for me tho lol, too big for my hand 😂
@@8lec_R i don't even use my razer mouse to game, i'm a controller gamer :) mostly play indie roguelites
@@RadChromeDude ooh nice! I play mostly fps games. I want a smaller lighter mouse but cannot afford one atm 😂
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Mice that don't have ergonomic shape and at least 5 buttons shouldn't even be caled productivity mice... And that most of the lineup
Powerusers often get problems with tendons, typically the carpal channel syndrome, so which mouse is the healthiest (for a future test) ? Are there any alternatives worth the learn curve?
How about the Logitech MX anywhere 2s ? I thought the s stands for the silent model.... Are the buttons silent or loud and clicky?
Just ran across the Microsoft Arc mouse. Love the scroll pad, and especially the thinness if stored flat. Only mouse i know that fits any sleeve for my Laptop. I use Logitech Anywhere 3 at my desk.
and how about ergonomics? Most reviews I've seen complaint about it's shape
@@lukaszkups Certainly a compromise, but one I can easily live with.
Just scored the MX Master 3 (non-S) for $75USD here in Australia 🇦🇺Sooo Stoked 🥰🥰🤯🤩🤤
Dealing with spreadsheets with 70+ columns the thumb wheel on the Logitech MX Master 3 or 3s is a game changer, whenever I use a different mouse I always move my thumb to scroll left and right and am massively disappointed.
Easier switching between devices is a nice bonus, but peripherals could also be plugged into many modern monitors. This is an easy way to switch between systems while using the same monitor.
the storage for the mx2 for the wireless is in the battery compartment
7:54 This one won't last 3 years without the famous double click problem, it's my 3rd Logitech with this issue. I moved to Razer Pro Click, which has a "60 million" click guaranteed mechanical switch.
I hate the MX3 for it’s weight and balance. Couldn’t even do my spreadsheets with it and went back to a gaming mouse, which is a shame. Loved those wheels.
I believe a lot of people is sleeping over the Logitech M720 Triathlon. It costs just US$40 at the moment and is a wonderfull, simple and very confortable. I mean, this thing is really, really confortable. It has the multi devices features from Logitech and a scroll wheel that changes to fast spin with a click of a button. It is excelent.
you say claw grip while holding those mice with fingertip grip...nice
Just about to get a new mouse for my mac and here comes this video. Would be better if you add the dimensions and weight of the mice at the beginning of each segment. 😆
Many years ago, I bought an induction battery free optical mouse by Dexlan. This is no longer offered any more. Are there any of this type of mouse that is available these days? Thanks
How's your opinion regarding Logitech pebble mouse, got a small kid and don't want the clicking noise to wake him up as I usually work late
I don't know. Spent a small fortune on the Logi MX keys and MX vertical mouse. On my Mac they're both junk. Scroll wheel on the mouse locks up. etc.
What about the M650 from Logitech?
Rechargable batteries as an investment is relative.
I can buy 4 triple As and its charger for the price of 10 non-rechargeable triple As
And those 4 rechargeable batteries will last me longer than 20 non-rechargeable.
And once you got the charger, buying just the batteries is even cheaper.
This has nothing to do with the video....but anyone know where these guys get their desk size mouse pads?
Logitech G600 should be on the list.
G502 makes a good productivity mouse too if you want more mice buttons to macro.
After watching 25 mins of mouse videos. I learnt a lesson "Spend responsible". This can mean many things