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The MX 3S is the latest and greatest for productivity from logi, but it is too heavy for contemporary demands. I hope MX 4 will drop the weight. If you want ergonomics, the Razer DeathAdder v3 Pro is fine (no Bluetooth, though). The best all-in-one (productivity, gaming, ergonomics, RGB lighting, and Bluetooth) might be the Asus ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition mouse. Don't thank me ))
Coolermaster mastermouse mm710 and new variants. Basically you want the lightest thing with the lightest cord you can get, to stop that strain on your arms and wrists, etc. I don't use wireless because it's added things that can break and added latency, even if small.
I'm a millionaire should I start a channel as a millionaire. Nah I spend my extra time riding mnt bikes, helping homeless, and helping stray animals. I got here being generous.
You just spanked all those expert youtube reviewers, this is how a review is done. You got skills for reviewing. I had Logitech mouse fail many times, its like intentionally it will start double click issue after 2 year or so. No matter its 40$ or 150$ mouse.
I have a Logitech G502 Lightspeed wireless (the original). I bought it in 2019 July and I used it for heavy gaming (on average 10-12 hours of use daily). It still retained its battery life, NO double clicking what so ever. Only thing that happened is the rubber coating on the thumb side degraded and peeled off (after 4 years). All my Logitech mice had double clicking issue after a few years but not this one. I will use this until it dies. Also the first time I see this but it is gradually and permanently getting slower. I needed to increase my DPI from 1700 to 2800 over the past half a year. But oh well, I can increase it up to 25600 so it has still has 1 or 2 years in it for sure if not more.
I've used my G502 since 2016. All you have to do is take it apart and use a toothbrush with a little isopropyl alcohol on it to scrub the omron switches under the left and right mouse buttons. This will clean them out. Then blow the switches out, and give the alcohol some time to evaporate, and they'll continue working again for years. They just get gummed up after a few years of use. Literally any mouse will.
Kind of an odd comment about this video, but something I'd like to note is the lack of background music. I love it! The way you conveyed all the information was genuine, straight to the point, and intriguing. Just proof that you know what's best for us and you're not just trying to shove random info down our brain. Thanks!!!
@TechLead need your help! How you managed to solve the issue of Basilisk V3 Pro side buttons, "sniper" button and the wheel left-right buttons? They are just do not work((( Thanks!
I really just want a variant of the mx master that's got some better gaming features; slightly lighter, better glide pads, the ability to charge via the wireless mousepad, yadayada. I used the mx revolution that got released in 2005/6 and I absolutely loved it. used it till it died. I want to go back to a mouse like that one day. I want something that doesn't look like an epic gamer mouse but that can actually function as one.
Based on my experience, I use all the button on my G502 hero, mainly for media player, the original DPI selector, I use it for volume control, the side buttons for forward and backward, and the sniper button for Play/Pause. Use it pretty much all the time, all day everyday.
Mx 3s is the worst mouse ever created, it is not working properly, the wheel issue is the most serious disadvantage of this mouse, but also there many other issues with it
@@SirMonk it's not about the art and I'm not a beginner, it's just the problem of this particular model. The wheel is not working properly at least for some items produced in 2023.
Thinking about buying Basilisk V3 Pro to use with my iMac + Windows. Important thing for me to know: will the SMART-REEL MODE work on Mac? Thanks in advance!
I have the basilisk and the scroll wheel has a lot of errors where it scrolls the wrong direction. This appears to be a common problem even straight out of the box.
how come my razor deathadder v2 pro has bt so you don't need dungle? Also has rgb on mine. I do like what you recommended and have dual mouse setup mx master 3s and razor deathadder v2 pro. I don't mind gaming on mx master for fps either as I have high dpi and the weight helps on the low travel. Actually moving to deathadder was more of a learning curve.
I have had the Logitech MX 2 and the MX 3, and in both the left button started to fail after one year of use. The wheel also failed in the MX3, it gets stuck, and when you try to scroll it clicks instead. Will Razer Basilisk be better? Or maybe the brand Mad Catz? Some reviews say the problem with Razer is their software and the connection.
i also had 2 logitech mouses that fail too soon like less than 1 year each. G602 and G604. after that i switched to Razer Naga pro, 2 years now and it doesnt fail yet but shows wear and aging now. i do heavy vfx editing and gaming. one downside is razer dont have mac software so i have to setup the buttons on windows.
Simplest and fool-proof way to customize the Razer mice on MacOS is to do all the customization of it on a Windows machine and then store those profiles on the mouse itself. Except very few features that are clearly indicated with "Synapse Only", each configuration and setup will work on MacOS as well. Once you configure it to your liking on the Windows machine, store the profile on the mouse and then just connect it to your Mac and voila - everything works perfectly.
Thumbs up for an indepth review. Only things missing I would like to find is which mouse is the best for CAD apps that require press & hold of middle button/scroll wheel. Discovered the hard way that a normal mouse is terrible -- balloon tire scroll wheel is painful & the pad of my index finger frequently presses far enough around it to accidentally trigger the left or right button due to location of the scroll wheel. Blender 3D for example uses scroll wheel / middle button extensively for navigating. I know buttons can be reprogrammed, but it's hard to test the many options online
Thank you for a review that also cares about the inertia free scrolling wheel feature, which I use a lot with my old, first version MX Master. Now looking for alternatives if any. No specs, and a very few reviews detail this feature.
I picked up the DeathAdder V3 pro and the Razer Pro Click mouse last year. Pro Click was very smooth and quiet as well as taller in the hand. All around a great productivity mouse.
Ready for the MX4s mouse already! Yeah, 3s is too heavy... I had to stick with the 2s all these years for that reason. The thumb button always breaks on them.
The Basilisk V3 (not the Pro version) is the real successor of the G502 (Proteus Core/Hero): optical switches, a far better mouse wheel, better side surfaces (the sides of the G502 regularly need to be cleaned) and no double click bug after using it for several months. The disadvantages compared to the G502 are the two missing buttons on the top left and the non-adjustable weight. The Basilisk V3 also feels a bit less valueable at the beginning until you get used to its material and lighter weight. The only thing I miss is one small button on the right side either to replace the aim button on the left (which is imho too far away for practial usage, anyhow) or generally for an additional function (like fastly switching to hypershift mode with your pinkie or ring finger which otherwise have nothing to do, at all).
You can modify the scroll wheel on the G502 X Plus. You can actually swap out the G502 scroll wheel for the one in the G502 X Plus. There's a video by Beardedbob on tearing it down.
The basilik v3 pro is a beast, I have it designed, I browse the web and the game is excellent. I recommend it. You will not regret that investment. It is the most beautiful and advanced gaming mouse from Razer.
Hey man, as a developer you truly reflect the feels and needs of everyone else in the industry ! Covered all my pain points when I was looking for the mouse, and without having to struggle, finally I found the best based on your review ! Also subscribing for more such content!
Returning my G502 Hero... way too small/narrow of a mouse. I found my hand cramping pretty quickly the first hr or so of use. Is the razer basilisk v3 just as narrow of a mouse?
The thing I hate about the basilisk v3 is the rubber on the thumb rest for some odd reason it peels off this is the second one I own and they both have that issue
Exactly the same analysis I was going through right now looking for an all rounder mouse. Can't believe how difficult it is to find a light gaming mouse with bluetooth 🤦🏻♂️ This was a really nice review, thank you!!
Ive also owned a balisk before, very good mouse overall, howver this may be specific to the model of my balisk, but if you lose the OG charging cable you have to use the baseplat to charge it instead, the reason being the Balisk has a tight space for its charging port, I kid you not I used a diff razer cord (from my razer nari headset) and it did NOT fit, I tried many other cords non of them fit, its not usb c and you relaly gotta keep the og charging cable handy.
The "snipe" button on the G502 can also be remapped. Plus on any G502 mouse, you can click the scroll wheel down, but also side to side (left or right), so that's 9 programmable buttons in total, not including the left and right mouse buttons.
recently my g502 kinda gave up on me with the side scroll, it now just always registers a middle mouse click whenever I try scroll sadly, really annoying, there is a fix but I need to tear it down.
Pretty sure it was the Logitech MX-3 Master I originally got when I got my M1 MacMini while it was super-newly released, in hopes that the thumb side-scroll wheel would work well. It was Bluetooth. How well did it work? It was the shittiest experience I’d ever had, with delays of several seconds between rolling it and getting a response. Was it perchance a problem with their drivers or the Bluetooth stack/HID stack in the version of the OS? Perhaps, but it wasn’t worth wasting time and effort on it once I saw it behaved poorly on my other Macs as well. So I returned it and found the Logitech G502 Hero SE or whatever the exact name, wired, as I was done dealing with Bluetooth. For a mouse, it works very well, and I especially love the free-wheeling center mouse wheel, and it’s a shame they went stupid on that, as that’s one of the nicest features of the mouse for me for productivity: the side buttons and enabling side-to-side motions, I’m just not coordinated enough to not mess that up in fine maneuvering scenarios, and that’s also a problem I found with the MX3 regardless of all else: if you push a button hard enough on the side to register it, likely you’ll move the rest of the mouse the wrong way, so that sucks if you’ve not got that finesse: I suspect that’s a large part of why it was made that heavy as well in comparison to everything else.
I jumped on your video today by chance, very very helpful, what about the G502 Wireless version the one you have wired. what do you think about that one.....I need to buy one now and I am stuck between the razer basilisk and the logitech G502 hero wireless version..
I am surprised that you didn't review the G502 Lightspeed as a replacement option for the G502. It is the logical mouse choice that has to be in this review. I was looking for the same - having good productivity/coding/gaming mouse and regular traveling, it is the mouse that won the battle for me. Great review nonetheless!
Not sure I could go Logitech again. I have two top of the range mice from them (currently using G502, previously G903) and both have had issues with double clicking on single clicks - can't use either of them reliably anymore.
Instead of buying two mice, one best for gaming and the other best for production, you burn so much money to find a mouse which is good for 2 things but best for nothing.
Thanks for this great video! I'm also on Mac, but like you, I think I would prefer the Basilisk, for all the reasons you say. I've given the Magic Mouse a try for over a year and I've come to hate pretty much everything about it, including the fact that it seems to have a mind of its own (and we don't see eye to eye). Cheers!
I recently bought the 502X and that's what comes to mind when I think "gaming" MX Master. You may also want to look into the Keychron M6, it's both *_almost_* half the price and half the weight of the MX Master. My dream mouse has a simple Superlight-ish-clone shape with Smartscroll. I used the previous (now discontinued) version of the M650L for years. I thought I'd love the 650L but never knew how much I'd hate a silent mouse. I just hate "clicking" with a mouse that *_doesn't click._* At this point it also feels silly buying an MX Anywhere when I already own both the 502X and 650L, so Imma just gonna buy a dang soldering iron instead and swap the switches out myself.
Tried the G502x lightspeed - Had the same issues... the clicks sound very loud and hollow, the scroll wheel either has a loud ratchet sound or when in free mode it sometimes spins/scrolls on its own which is very annoying for such an expensive mouse :( - Might give that razer a try
Just bought Basilisk v3Pro to replace my old G502 wireless, very good choice comparing to material quality, the wheel behavior, optical switches etc. I like it much more than even G502X plus!!!!.. yes, I tried it too, and it had a defective wheel, no kidding, it's really one step back Logitech. So I replace it with Razer.. Do not regret about it :)
can you PLEASE recommend a wireless gaming mouse FOR LEFT-HANDERS. theres really very little info that I can find all these mid to high-end gaming mice are for right-handers
Great video thanks, I wanted an 'all in one' and I was drawn to the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro - I did at first want the MX3s but did not like the form factor, felt too claw like to me so think I will go for the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as I thought :)
I have the V3 Hyperspeed and with Steermouse for Mac I can only program the forward and back buttons, not the other button which defaults to side scroll. I wish it had a scroll wheel like the MX series from Logitech where you can control the amount of resistence for each notch you ratches as you scroll too. Common Razer, release V3 for Synapse for Mac!!!
"I have gone through the liberty of aquiring like several 100 dollars worth of mice as a millionaire." gotta throw in that "I'm a millionaire" flex ofcourse
Can I ask which Arcteryx jacket that is? I came for the mouse video but I really like that jacket. I have the Atom LT hoodie that looks similar but yours look nicer than mine :)
Corshair dark core pro has been my go to I owned one for a while then the scroll wheel broke which bummed me out so I bouhgt the mouse again cause it had been out for a while and was now cheaper, well the scroll wheel on that one went out months in, and when i got my replacemet the replacements scroll wheel has now just died on me, very sad cause literally no other mouse feels as good in your hand, your fingers are basically floating on the mouse and feels so natural, i really want to get another one like it but im scared to buy it again and get the same problems.
Has Razr commented as to why they don't support Synapse 3 on the Mac platform? I believe Steel Series, Logitech and others support both platforms and are updating on a regular. I really want to get that "Razer Basilisk V3 Pro" but without the software support, it feels like a crippled device. Thanks for the video!
Thank you so much for this video!! Funny cause I was in a dilemma over deciding on a higher end mouse a few days ago! This video basically solidifies one of two paths I may take. Before I had two cheap gaming mice, I do a mix of work on my machine: design, video editing/rendering, programming, and gaming so I like a powerful and versatile gaming mouse usually. I saw the awesome productivity MX Master 3S mouse at BestBuy and bit the bullet! I agree it is hands down a top knotch mouse for general office work and development. However, it lacks the style and flaire of a gaming mouse with no LEDs (fair because it's not a gaming mouse). Now I'm contempleting getting a second equivalent design and ergonomically comfortable gaming mouse to match it and not using my old cheap mice. I'll be building a highend desktop in some months and need some new gear to match the upgrade as well! I'm so happy you gave the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro your official thumbs up as the current ultimate productivity + gaming mouse. I can either return my MX Master 3S and get the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or I can have both, either work for me. The MX Master 3S is so nice I have no problem keeping it for future use as I want to transition to mice with nice comfy thumb grips from now on, no issue with switching between them based on usage but it looks like the Razer Basilisk will do everything I want in a great all-in-one solution if I decide to go that route too. The MX Master 3S has some really nifty features you often don't find in gaming mice that truly benefit office work and multi-tasking like switching tabs on the fly too.
I just got the MX Master 2S and it's amazing. I assume the 3S improves in almost every aspect, so I urge you to keep that one. However, I have used Razer's Basilisk V2 for the last couple of years and it's served me incredibly well. Its ergonomic shape lets my hand rest perfectly onto it. Since the design is near identical to that of the Basilisk V3 Pro, I really wouldn't return that either. Both are superb quality ergo mice and there's a reason why people hold both of them in such high regard.
Tech Lead - I thought you would appreciate these jokes had been in the programmer world so long - Rick - California Differences between languages: Ada : You aim at your foot and pull the trigger, but the safety stops the gun from firing. The safety won’t budge until you tag your foot with a sign reading “”Bullet Hole in this foot””, and call the paramedics. You do so, then shoot yourself in the foot. C : The gun comes in 38 pieces, with a set of assembly instructions. After painstakingly assembling the pieces, you pull the trigger and the gun promptly backfires and blows your head off. Assembly : The same as C, except you have to hand-machine all the pieces as well. When you pull the trigger, your whole house explodes. Java: You break into someone else’s home and steal their water pistol. You then make a child gun that uses .38 rounds instead of water. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, nothing happens to you, but everyone who visits your house gets shot in the foot. Basic : You aim the gun at a straight horizontal and pull the trigger, which causes a stream of water to be squirted straight down onto your foot. Perl : You aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger. There is no explosion, but gravity causes the bullet to slide out of the barrel and bounce off your foot. Lisp : You do a small part of the remaining work involved in shooting yourself in the foot. You then call yourself, and tell yourself to shoot yourself in the foot. Pascal : The same as Ada, except when you pull the trigger a little sign pops out reading “”BANG!””. C++ : The same as Java, except you try to build the parent water pistol using the gun tools from the C gun. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, the parent C gun explodes, spraying water everywhere, including the chamber of the child gun. This causes the child gun to backfire, blowing your head off. Visual C++ : The same as C++, except that the bullets, the gun parts, the tools you use to put it together, the hospital you get taken to afterwards, and the ambulance that takes you there are all owned by the same company. APL : Whenever you pull the trigger, no matter where you aim the gun, the bullet ricochets off of 13 objects and lodges in your foot. The gun has been examined by ballistics experts, mechanical engineers, and even the person who made it, and none of them can figure out how it works. FORTRAN : When you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, a table indexing error causes the gun to shoot its firing pin into your foot instead of the bullet.
Very good explenation about this mouses. I would like to ask you if Razer Basilisk V3 WIRED good, because I have some problem with my scroll wheel with other mouse I have at the moment. I need good wired mouse.
Deathadder V3 is my favourite by far. I'm not that fond of my MX Master. The weight is stupid for any serious mouse-work. For programming, it's probably ok, but for CAD work it's un-ergonomical because of the weight, and the shape is less ergonomic than the classic EC2-like shape of the DAv3. However, I'm using a Steelseries Prime Wireless now, which has an even slightly better shape than the DAv3, and fantastic mouse-buttons. However, it has a horrible scroll wheel (QC issues on several units I've owned).
The G502 Hero has this cable only in some regio version like the older EU version while some regio versions has a plastic cable like the newer German version. That's quite annoying because my roommate and his brother have the old EU version while I only got the newer German version.
Currently using the Logitech G604 which borrows a lot of the G502, wi tmore of a stealthy look. It has bluetooth/dongle connectivity, hyperfast scroll wheel. Plus 8 programmable keys that I use for quick action macros. I guess no rgb, and slightly heavy would be the cons.
Same here, love my 604 for gaming, also have the MX master s2 for 3+ years for non gaming PC use, now saw an offer for an 502 lightspeed for 150$ with Starfield as a gift and strongly considering buying it.
The Logitech MX 3s has a secret thumb button that is customizable with the logi options+ app. A great dupe is the rapoo mt760. I own both and they are great. I love Logitech software it is amazing!
Just wrapping up my new Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as we speak. I've never had a jankier mouse. Not even macros work properly. Yet, the same macros work beautifully on my Logitech MX Master 3S. The latter would be the mouse of my dreams, if it were just a tad faster. The worst thing is, that I can't find a gaming mouse that offers the same slanted palm as the MX Master does.
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[edit] sorry, that isn't a Razer Viper, but it is the Deathadder V3 Pro. I was researching both for the video - afaik, they're almost identical, with the Deathadder being a bit taller in shape.
The MX 3S is the latest and greatest for productivity from logi, but it is too heavy for contemporary demands. I hope MX 4 will drop the weight. If you want ergonomics, the Razer DeathAdder v3 Pro is fine (no Bluetooth, though). The best all-in-one (productivity, gaming, ergonomics, RGB lighting, and Bluetooth) might be the Asus ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition mouse. Don't thank me ))
quick question, how did you do the slow tracking for the polling rate testing you did at about 14:00?
Coolermaster mastermouse mm710 and new variants.
Basically you want the lightest thing with the lightest cord you can get, to stop that strain on your arms and wrists, etc.
I don't use wireless because it's added things that can break and added latency, even if small.
@@ssjsqueak I recorded the screen and used "echo" effect in premiere with "maximum" setting to overlay. neat trick.
japan has many war crimes in ww2 would be interesting for someone as smart as you to give your opinion on this issue
As a a millionaire - what we've been waiting for
I'm a millionaire should I start a channel as a millionaire. Nah I spend my extra time riding mnt bikes, helping homeless, and helping stray animals. I got here being generous.
As a billionaire I remember where I came from
As a millionaire I use the millionaire grip
@@korban007 as a quadrillionaire I remember that I'm not meant to tell people that my dad owns the world
@@dj_athtoo bad you weren’t kicked from facebook
Quick tip for Logi MX3 when using the browser:
Before pressing CTR check first if the wheel is still spinning, or you'll get zoom 1000x 😲
Haha, I feel this comment. Learned this the hard way. I thought I was the only one 😂
Great video. no fluff, just tech. Love it! That polling info was great I had no idea that BT was that much worse than the dongle.
Exactly the review I was looking for
You just spanked all those expert youtube reviewers, this is how a review is done. You got skills for reviewing.
I had Logitech mouse fail many times, its like intentionally it will start double click issue after 2 year or so. No matter its 40$ or 150$ mouse.
I have a Logitech G502 Lightspeed wireless (the original). I bought it in 2019 July and I used it for heavy gaming (on average 10-12 hours of use daily). It still retained its battery life, NO double clicking what so ever. Only thing that happened is the rubber coating on the thumb side degraded and peeled off (after 4 years).
All my Logitech mice had double clicking issue after a few years but not this one. I will use this until it dies.
Also the first time I see this but it is gradually and permanently getting slower. I needed to increase my DPI from 1700 to 2800 over the past half a year. But oh well, I can increase it up to 25600 so it has still has 1 or 2 years in it for sure if not more.
I've used my G502 since 2016. All you have to do is take it apart and use a toothbrush with a little isopropyl alcohol on it to scrub the omron switches under the left and right mouse buttons. This will clean them out. Then blow the switches out, and give the alcohol some time to evaporate, and they'll continue working again for years. They just get gummed up after a few years of use. Literally any mouse will.
Kind of an odd comment about this video, but something I'd like to note is the lack of background music.
I love it! The way you conveyed all the information was genuine, straight to the point, and intriguing.
Just proof that you know what's best for us and you're not just trying to shove random info down our brain.
Thanks!!!
@TechLead need your help! How you managed to solve the issue of Basilisk V3 Pro side buttons, "sniper" button and the wheel left-right buttons? They are just do not work((( Thanks!
I'm a huge fan of the Logitech M305, because it's small & light. I have small hands. When I use bigger mouses (mice?), I get hand cramps.
I really just want a variant of the mx master that's got some better gaming features; slightly lighter, better glide pads, the ability to charge via the wireless mousepad, yadayada. I used the mx revolution that got released in 2005/6 and I absolutely loved it. used it till it died. I want to go back to a mouse like that one day. I want something that doesn't look like an epic gamer mouse but that can actually function as one.
Same, i basically want the exact same build as the MX Master 3 but with higher polling rate
Based on my experience, I use all the button on my G502 hero, mainly for media player, the original DPI selector, I use it for volume control, the side buttons for forward and backward, and the sniper button for Play/Pause. Use it pretty much all the time, all day everyday.
Mx 3s has been great to me. Love all the options you have when paired up with the keyboard, it’s an amazing work experience.
Mx 3s is the worst mouse ever created, it is not working properly, the wheel issue is the most serious disadvantage of this mouse, but also there many other issues with it
Which mx? Master or anywhere?
@@rifqi96 master
@@turbo568 The problem really is that the 3s are not a beginner's mouse. Using this mouse is an art and takes time to master.
@@SirMonk it's not about the art and I'm not a beginner, it's just the problem of this particular model. The wheel is not working properly at least for some items produced in 2023.
Thinking about buying Basilisk V3 Pro to use with my iMac + Windows. Important thing for me to know: will the SMART-REEL MODE work on Mac? Thanks in advance!
If someone is looking for an answer to this question, then yes, SMART-REEL MODE works on a Mac if it is first activated on Windows (Razer Synapse)
So we've seen the MX Master 3S, but somehow cannot find MX Mechanical anywhere on this channel. Wondering why...
I have the basilisk and the scroll wheel has a lot of errors where it scrolls the wrong direction. This appears to be a common problem even straight out of the box.
I’ve been considering replacing my wired V2 Basilisk with a new V3. Is this still a problem?
how come my razor deathadder v2 pro has bt so you don't need dungle? Also has rgb on mine. I do like what you recommended and have dual mouse setup mx master 3s and razor deathadder v2 pro. I don't mind gaming on mx master for fps either as I have high dpi and the weight helps on the low travel. Actually moving to deathadder was more of a learning curve.
I have had the Logitech MX 2 and the MX 3, and in both the left button started to fail after one year of use.
The wheel also failed in the MX3, it gets stuck, and when you try to scroll it clicks instead.
Will Razer Basilisk be better? Or maybe the brand Mad Catz?
Some reviews say the problem with Razer is their software and the connection.
i also had 2 logitech mouses that fail too soon like less than 1 year each. G602 and G604. after that i switched to Razer Naga pro, 2 years now and it doesnt fail yet but shows wear and aging now. i do heavy vfx editing and gaming. one downside is razer dont have mac software so i have to setup the buttons on windows.
Simplest and fool-proof way to customize the Razer mice on MacOS is to do all the customization of it on a Windows machine and then store those profiles on the mouse itself. Except very few features that are clearly indicated with "Synapse Only", each configuration and setup will work on MacOS as well. Once you configure it to your liking on the Windows machine, store the profile on the mouse and then just connect it to your Mac and voila - everything works perfectly.
Perfect. I'll buy a second computer so I can customize my mouse.
@@CosmicApemost people have a pc and a laptop and tend to go between both.
Thumbs up for an indepth review. Only things missing I would like to find is which mouse is the best for CAD apps that require press & hold of middle button/scroll wheel. Discovered the hard way that a normal mouse is terrible -- balloon tire scroll wheel is painful & the pad of my index finger frequently presses far enough around it to accidentally trigger the left or right button due to location of the scroll wheel. Blender 3D for example uses scroll wheel / middle button extensively for navigating. I know buttons can be reprogrammed, but it's hard to test the many options online
Thank you! Tou described my exact use case of being hot swappable from gaming pc to a work mac. Finally have a good reason for the basilisk.
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Thank you for a review that also cares about the inertia free scrolling wheel feature, which I use a lot with my old, first version MX Master. Now looking for alternatives if any. No specs, and a very few reviews detail this feature.
I picked up the DeathAdder V3 pro and the Razer Pro Click mouse last year. Pro Click was very smooth and quiet as well as taller in the hand. All around a great productivity mouse.
But you do it as a millionaire
@@HotShotLion
Ready for the MX4s mouse already! Yeah, 3s is too heavy... I had to stick with the 2s all these years for that reason. The thumb button always breaks on them.
How abt g pro x superlight? Using it for office and gaming, gave up mx3 due to its weight
Thank you for the indepth review. I am looking for a new mouse for a mix of productivity and casual gaming but features are super important.
What about the scrolling issues of MX Master 3S ? Is it resolved ?
Nop. Is really weird that he review the scroll saying is one of the best, since don't do the basic task of not flicking while you are scrolling.
The Basilisk V3 (not the Pro version) is the real successor of the G502 (Proteus Core/Hero): optical switches, a far better mouse wheel, better side surfaces (the sides of the G502 regularly need to be cleaned) and no double click bug after using it for several months. The disadvantages compared to the G502 are the two missing buttons on the top left and the non-adjustable weight. The Basilisk V3 also feels a bit less valueable at the beginning until you get used to its material and lighter weight. The only thing I miss is one small button on the right side either to replace the aim button on the left (which is imho too far away for practial usage, anyhow) or generally for an additional function (like fastly switching to hypershift mode with your pinkie or ring finger which otherwise have nothing to do, at all).
forgot to mention its shitty quality hence unreliability
had my non pro version for 3 years, still holding up great but I got the pro version
@@SemenDoctor you must be very lucky
@@g3_angolddon’t forget its random malfunctions like freezing, blinking, stutters, etc.
What is your opinion on the glorious model o wireless?
Thank you for this elite-level review of these elite-level wireless mice. I expect nothing less from the TechLead.
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You can modify the scroll wheel on the G502 X Plus. You can actually swap out the G502 scroll wheel for the one in the G502 X Plus. There's a video by Beardedbob on tearing it down.
That was a goddamn amazing review/comparison video mate. 10/10.
The basilik v3 pro is a beast, I have it designed, I browse the web and the game is excellent. I recommend it. You will not regret that investment. It is the most beautiful and advanced gaming mouse from Razer.
r the clicks fuckn silent tho?
Hey man, as a developer you truly reflect the feels and needs of everyone else in the industry ! Covered all my pain points when I was looking for the mouse, and without having to struggle, finally I found the best based on your review ! Also subscribing for more such content!
The g502 hero nowadays also has a plastic cable instead of a braded cable.
Returning my G502 Hero... way too small/narrow of a mouse. I found my hand cramping pretty quickly the first hr or so of use. Is the razer basilisk v3 just as narrow of a mouse?
The thing I hate about the basilisk v3 is the rubber on the thumb rest for some odd reason it peels off this is the second one I own and they both have that issue
Thank you so much for this video. Its like you been reading my questions and answering them 1 by 1... cheers !!
Thanks a lot. Very informative and on the point video. It helped me to decide my next mouse
Exactly the same analysis I was going through right now looking for an all rounder mouse. Can't believe how difficult it is to find a light gaming mouse with bluetooth 🤦🏻♂️
This was a really nice review, thank you!!
Ive also owned a balisk before, very good mouse overall, howver this may be specific to the model of my balisk, but if you lose the OG charging cable you have to use the baseplat to charge it instead, the reason being the Balisk has a tight space for its charging port, I kid you not I used a diff razer cord (from my razer nari headset) and it did NOT fit, I tried many other cords non of them fit, its not usb c and you relaly gotta keep the og charging cable handy.
Logitech G903 wireless is great also have the 502X which I still use at my other computer as a non-millionaire.
The "snipe" button on the G502 can also be remapped. Plus on any G502 mouse, you can click the scroll wheel down, but also side to side (left or right), so that's 9 programmable buttons in total, not including the left and right mouse buttons.
recently my g502 kinda gave up on me with the side scroll, it now just always registers a middle mouse click whenever I try scroll sadly, really annoying, there is a fix but I need to tear it down.
Pretty sure it was the Logitech MX-3 Master I originally got when I got my M1 MacMini while it was super-newly released, in hopes that the thumb side-scroll wheel would work well. It was Bluetooth.
How well did it work? It was the shittiest experience I’d ever had, with delays of several seconds between rolling it and getting a response. Was it perchance a problem with their drivers or the Bluetooth stack/HID stack in the version of the OS? Perhaps, but it wasn’t worth wasting time and effort on it once I saw it behaved poorly on my other Macs as well.
So I returned it and found the Logitech G502 Hero SE or whatever the exact name, wired, as I was done dealing with Bluetooth. For a mouse, it works very well, and I especially love the free-wheeling center mouse wheel, and it’s a shame they went stupid on that, as that’s one of the nicest features of the mouse for me for productivity: the side buttons and enabling side-to-side motions, I’m just not coordinated enough to not mess that up in fine maneuvering scenarios, and that’s also a problem I found with the MX3 regardless of all else: if you push a button hard enough on the side to register it, likely you’ll move the rest of the mouse the wrong way, so that sucks if you’ve not got that finesse: I suspect that’s a large part of why it was made that heavy as well in comparison to everything else.
Nice comparison. Yo, mind if I ask if basilisk works on glass?
I jumped on your video today by chance, very very helpful, what about the G502 Wireless version the one you have wired. what do you think about that one.....I need to buy one now and I am stuck between the razer basilisk and the logitech G502 hero wireless version..
I am surprised that you didn't review the G502 Lightspeed as a replacement option for the G502. It is the logical mouse choice that has to be in this review. I was looking for the same - having good productivity/coding/gaming mouse and regular traveling, it is the mouse that won the battle for me. Great review nonetheless!
he actually doesn't like the lightspeed and prefers the hero because of the scrollwheel being worse, same with the g502x plus
Wow, this is an awesome review!
Just bought the mx 3s last week. I am very happy with it.
Not sure I could go Logitech again. I have two top of the range mice from them (currently using G502, previously G903) and both have had issues with double clicking on single clicks - can't use either of them reliably anymore.
Thanks everyone is recommending the 502 your perspective is appreciated.
Can you review the glorious i2 as well?
Good video, I will have to check out some of these mice.
Instead of buying two mice, one best for gaming and the other best for production, you burn so much money to find a mouse which is good for 2 things but best for nothing.
Thanks for this great video! I'm also on Mac, but like you, I think I would prefer the Basilisk, for all the reasons you say. I've given the Magic Mouse a try for over a year and I've come to hate pretty much everything about it, including the fact that it seems to have a mind of its own (and we don't see eye to eye). Cheers!
have you ever tried any corsair mouse i know they mostly have bluetooth wireless mouse
Man I just want a gaming mouse version of the MX Master 3S....
I use the damn thing for everything, game, work...lol.
Tbf I'm not much of a gamer, I play warthunder sometimes, I find this mouse pretty.... neat.
I recently bought the 502X and that's what comes to mind when I think "gaming" MX Master.
You may also want to look into the Keychron M6, it's both *_almost_* half the price and half the weight of the MX Master.
My dream mouse has a simple Superlight-ish-clone shape with Smartscroll.
I used the previous (now discontinued) version of the M650L for years. I thought I'd love the 650L but never knew how much I'd hate a silent mouse. I just hate "clicking" with a mouse that *_doesn't click._*
At this point it also feels silly buying an MX Anywhere when I already own both the 502X and 650L, so Imma just gonna buy a dang soldering iron instead and swap the switches out myself.
Keychron M6 is your answer
Try the 2s instead of 3s, I like it better.
Tried the G502x lightspeed - Had the same issues... the clicks sound very loud and hollow, the scroll wheel either has a loud ratchet sound or when in free mode it sometimes spins/scrolls on its own which is very annoying for such an expensive mouse :( - Might give that razer a try
Just bought Basilisk v3Pro to replace my old G502 wireless, very good choice comparing to material quality, the wheel behavior, optical switches etc. I like it much more than even G502X plus!!!!.. yes, I tried it too, and it had a defective wheel, no kidding, it's really one step back Logitech.
So I replace it with Razer.. Do not regret about it :)
How do you feel about mmo mice? Like the razer naga or something similar?
can you PLEASE recommend a wireless gaming mouse FOR LEFT-HANDERS. theres really very little info that I can find all these mid to high-end gaming mice are for right-handers
Is there any gaming mouse with silent click?
Cause the mx Masters 3 s has a Bad polling rate 1250hz
you. you deserve a follow, this is the video i needed, 😂 programming and gaming, love it 😂❤
it's funny and subtle how he just threw the millionaire title.
For Basilisk, are you able to make customization on Windows then just use it on Mac?
Nope
a lighter alternatives for Razer Basilisk V3 Pro?
I just purchased the normal Basilisk V3 and not the pro. It's got wire and it's not Bluetooth. So far it's been great and I love it.
Great video thanks, I wanted an 'all in one' and I was drawn to the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro - I did at first want the MX3s but did not like the form factor, felt too claw like to me so think I will go for the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as I thought :)
The software experience... does it pop up bloatware everytime you plugin?
I use the Aerox 5 on Mac, it has bluetooth and rgb. Feels and looks good, just not a fan of the klick sound.
I have the V3 Hyperspeed and with Steermouse for Mac I can only program the forward and back buttons, not the other button which defaults to side scroll. I wish it had a scroll wheel like the MX series from Logitech where you can control the amount of resistence for each notch you ratches as you scroll too.
Common Razer, release V3 for Synapse for Mac!!!
Thank you for broadening our knowledge about mice technology.....I don't need to mess up choosing the best mouse for almost everything now.
True fact, I change from the palm grip to the claw grip and I now have less bugs in my code.
*fewer bugs
Excellent, as usual. Your presentation is extremely airtight and logical. Great job!!
"I have gone through the liberty of aquiring like several 100 dollars worth of mice as a millionaire." gotta throw in that "I'm a millionaire" flex ofcourse
Can I ask which Arcteryx jacket that is? I came for the mouse video but I really like that jacket. I have the Atom LT hoodie that looks similar but yours look nicer than mine :)
What is that large black pad/surface you mouse on?
What about the glorious model I?
Which out of these will be the best for music production???
Corshair dark core pro has been my go to I owned one for a while then the scroll wheel broke which bummed me out so I bouhgt the mouse again cause it had been out for a while and was now cheaper, well the scroll wheel on that one went out months in, and when i got my replacemet the replacements scroll wheel has now just died on me, very sad cause literally no other mouse feels as good in your hand, your fingers are basically floating on the mouse and feels so natural, i really want to get another one like it but im scared to buy it again and get the same problems.
Has Razr commented as to why they don't support Synapse 3 on the Mac platform? I believe Steel Series, Logitech and others support both platforms and are updating on a regular. I really want to get that "Razer Basilisk V3 Pro" but without the software support, it feels like a crippled device. Thanks for the video!
That’s why Razer is garbage
The scroll wheel on the MX Master 3.... it's hard to change. Been using it for years now and using anything else just feels like crap.
Have you tested Keychron M6?
Thank you so much for this video!!
Funny cause I was in a dilemma over deciding on a higher end mouse a few days ago! This video basically solidifies one of two paths I may take. Before I had two cheap gaming mice, I do a mix of work on my machine: design, video editing/rendering, programming, and gaming so I like a powerful and versatile gaming mouse usually. I saw the awesome productivity MX Master 3S mouse at BestBuy and bit the bullet! I agree it is hands down a top knotch mouse for general office work and development. However, it lacks the style and flaire of a gaming mouse with no LEDs (fair because it's not a gaming mouse). Now I'm contempleting getting a second equivalent design and ergonomically comfortable gaming mouse to match it and not using my old cheap mice. I'll be building a highend desktop in some months and need some new gear to match the upgrade as well!
I'm so happy you gave the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro your official thumbs up as the current ultimate productivity + gaming mouse. I can either return my MX Master 3S and get the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or I can have both, either work for me. The MX Master 3S is so nice I have no problem keeping it for future use as I want to transition to mice with nice comfy thumb grips from now on, no issue with switching between them based on usage but it looks like the Razer Basilisk will do everything I want in a great all-in-one solution if I decide to go that route too. The MX Master 3S has some really nifty features you often don't find in gaming mice that truly benefit office work and multi-tasking like switching tabs on the fly too.
I just got the MX Master 2S and it's amazing. I assume the 3S improves in almost every aspect, so I urge you to keep that one. However, I have used Razer's Basilisk V2 for the last couple of years and it's served me incredibly well. Its ergonomic shape lets my hand rest perfectly onto it. Since the design is near identical to that of the Basilisk V3 Pro, I really wouldn't return that either. Both are superb quality ergo mice and there's a reason why people hold both of them in such high regard.
Great video. Love the chair by the way. Just noticed it, same one that I have.
I use the G604 for gaming, work, and going into the office.
No issues with the scroll wheel ratcheting. And of course, it's cordless.
AWESOME video! 10/10. Thank you man!
thanks for your review. I decided to get myself a Razer Basilisk v3 (wired).
Tech Lead - I thought you would appreciate these jokes had been in the programmer world so long -
Rick - California
Differences between languages:
Ada : You aim at your foot and pull the trigger, but the safety stops the gun from firing. The safety won’t budge until you tag your foot with a sign reading “”Bullet Hole in this foot””, and call the paramedics. You do so, then shoot yourself in the foot.
C : The gun comes in 38 pieces, with a set of assembly instructions. After painstakingly assembling the pieces, you pull the trigger and the gun promptly backfires and blows your head off.
Assembly : The same as C, except you have to hand-machine all the pieces as well. When you pull the trigger, your whole house explodes.
Java: You break into someone else’s home and steal their water pistol. You then make a child gun that uses .38 rounds instead of water. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, nothing happens to you, but everyone who visits your house gets shot in the foot.
Basic : You aim the gun at a straight horizontal and pull the trigger, which causes a stream of water to be squirted straight down onto your foot.
Perl : You aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger. There is no explosion, but gravity causes the bullet to slide out of the barrel and bounce off your foot.
Lisp : You do a small part of the remaining work involved in shooting yourself in the foot. You then call yourself, and tell yourself to shoot yourself in the foot.
Pascal : The same as Ada, except when you pull the trigger a little sign pops out reading “”BANG!””.
C++ : The same as Java, except you try to build the parent water pistol using the gun tools from the C gun. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, the parent C gun explodes, spraying water everywhere, including the chamber of the child gun. This causes the child gun to backfire, blowing your head off.
Visual C++ : The same as C++, except that the bullets, the gun parts, the tools you use to put it together, the hospital you get taken to afterwards, and the ambulance that takes you there are all owned by the same company.
APL : Whenever you pull the trigger, no matter where you aim the gun, the bullet ricochets off of 13 objects and lodges in your foot. The gun has been examined by ballistics experts, mechanical engineers, and even the person who made it, and none of them can figure out how it works.
FORTRAN : When you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, a table indexing error causes the gun to shoot its firing pin into your foot instead of the bullet.
Brilliant video. Loved your sense of humour.
Very good explenation about this mouses. I would like to ask you if Razer Basilisk V3 WIRED good, because I have some problem with my scroll wheel with other mouse I have at the moment. I need good wired mouse.
I have one, and it's pretty good. The only thing I would worry about is the durability of the cluch that switches between tactile and smooth.
please tell me if I'm wrong saying that the scrolling wheel on G502 X Plus is just a complete garbage :(
Deathadder V3 is my favourite by far. I'm not that fond of my MX Master. The weight is stupid for any serious mouse-work. For programming, it's probably ok, but for CAD work it's un-ergonomical because of the weight, and the shape is less ergonomic than the classic EC2-like shape of the DAv3. However, I'm using a Steelseries Prime Wireless now, which has an even slightly better shape than the DAv3, and fantastic mouse-buttons. However, it has a horrible scroll wheel (QC issues on several units I've owned).
The G502 Hero has this cable only in some regio version like the older EU version while some regio versions has a plastic cable like the newer German version. That's quite annoying because my roommate and his brother have the old EU version while I only got the newer German version.
Currently using the Logitech G604 which borrows a lot of the G502, wi tmore of a stealthy look. It has bluetooth/dongle connectivity, hyperfast scroll wheel. Plus 8 programmable keys that I use for quick action macros. I guess no rgb, and slightly heavy would be the cons.
Same here, love my 604 for gaming, also have the MX master s2 for 3+ years for non gaming PC use, now saw an offer for an 502 lightspeed for 150$ with Starfield as a gift and strongly considering buying it.
The Logitech MX 3s has a secret thumb button that is customizable with the logi options+ app. A great dupe is the rapoo mt760. I own both and they are great. I love Logitech software it is amazing!
Guys whcih is better? Razer Basilisk V3 x HyperSpeed or Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed?
Just wrapping up my new Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as we speak. I've never had a jankier mouse. Not even macros work properly. Yet, the same macros work beautifully on my Logitech MX Master 3S. The latter would be the mouse of my dreams, if it were just a tad faster. The worst thing is, that I can't find a gaming mouse that offers the same slanted palm as the MX Master does.
Best comparison. It's exactly my case scenario. And comparison between mises I actually were looking for.
Being honest - how do they all compare to Logitech M100 ?