Alienware R11 RTX 3080 Thermal Pad Swap
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Today I waste my time and risk destroying my 3080 by disassembling it to change the thermal pads. The 3080 and 3090 sport very high VRAM or video memory temps during AAA gaming and mining, two tasks I put my GPU to. While the core clock remains nice and cool, the video ram climbs to 110C where it begins to throttle. The word on the street is changing thermal pads drops the temps 30C, if it sounds to good to be true...that's because it is.
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Hey guys, thank you for all the emails and information in the comments of this video. I have since done the project a second time, this time lowering my VRAM temps 28-30C which is awesome! The second attempt process, lessons learned, and results are in this updated video, and thank you all again!
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@@darkseerme Exactly. I made a top level comment encouraging people to view other videos. This is a 'how not to do it' video.
@GamerHeaven dude you realize you bought worse thermal pads than what Alienware put on the card right? Invest in the thermal grizzly pads and you will see an actually 10C drop… not 30-40C but an actual solid 10C
@@F1amez11 Are you sure thermalright is worse than stock pad?
The way he pronounced evga. Lolol
One look and I can see the problem. You did not apply thermal pads directly on the memory chips :D. You should remove that "plate" that covers the memory chips, then apply the thermal pads between the plate and the memory.
I interested to see how that plate covering the VRAM is removed.
This! It;s the same with the omen cards, seems to be both made by evga. You gotta also apply thermal paste between the top of the bracket covering the chips and the heatsink bc the contact between them is not good.
^^ When I added 3.0 mm thermal pads to my MSI 3080, I added them directly on top of the memory.
he did apply the thermal pads on the momery
@@aminstar5665 no he didn’t replace the existing thermal pads that are on the memory under the black plate. That’s what we’re talking about. You’ll see when he re-does it
It did make a different for my gigabyte 3080 gaming oc, same pad as you, 20c mem temps drop.
From the video, you did the whole thing wrong, dont put the pad on the plate, remove it and put the pad directly on the vram module.
I also have gigabyte 3080 gaming oc & used same pads 3 mm backplate 2m on front memory chips & 1.5 everywhere else on front, when from 110c down to 84c 100 mh/s
I have dell 3080 and dell 3090 ... The 3090 no matter what i did , temp still above 102c. I tried with thermal right odyseey .. 2nd try, chip and copper area only paste kyronaut on chip and mx4 on copper 4 sides.. back plate 1.5mm . then 3rd try i just replace thermal right with another brand of pad 1.5mm put on chip directly 4 sides and center.... got worst result.
You have to add thermal pads in between the PCB (memory chips) and the middle plate as well.
can you show on a picture or something?
@@Sol-hv8ms I plan on doing it soon just waiting for the items to come
@@Low23Key please show me because im going to have to do it soon
I’d like to see this as well. I tried today and it did nothing for me
Pretty ridiculous that the dell 3080 has a middle plate between the memory chips and heatsink honestly. Might be the only one with that design out of all the other 3080s
you should get rid of the old thermal paste before you put the new one on. they are not water that can be mix dude
YOU CANNOT STCK THEM!!! air gap stays between the pads and heat conductivity drops! get 2mm ones! and dont add different paste, renew the paste.
Anyone who builds knows any time you reseat you must reapply thermal paste
@@stevemisfit1 got any video links for backplate only swaps
The end of this video turned into stand up comedy. I sub'ed just because of the laughs I got , thank you for that.
+ one! This guys is so funny! Reminds me of Brendan Fraser!
Highly recommend you redo it because I have the same exact card as you from Alienware r10. My temps are 54c core, 88c memory at 50% fan speed, hashing at 95. What I did was instead of putting thermal pads, you put thermal paste around the vram heatsink contact part. Maybe thermal pads is too thick in those area is my guess? I used mx-4. Also I changed the vram pads that came stock, 1.5mm underneath the black heatsink. Don't think you open underneath the black heatsink in this video. On the backplate, I kept everything the same but did 2.0mm (stacked two 1.0mm) for the sides where the long small chips lined up are on the outskirts. Also, after running it hot, you can rescrew, retight them after because there is a break-in period. This should lower temps further. Hope this helps!
You can try tighting the screws in your current configuration but I suspect thermal paste vs thermal pads around the heatsink might be more viable.
How is the black plate covering the VRAM removed? I assume it’s screwed in? Curious as I do not have my R12 for another 2 weeks or so
@@Go_Birds there's 6-8 screws you remove, the backplate is the easiest to get to. After you remove the 4 main screws that holds the heatsink, the black plate is harder, need to use flathead where the screws are located and open up the black plate in those areas, well at least that's what I did.
@@Bvoswag at that point, what’s another 6-8 screws. 😂
Seems like getting thermals pads directly on the VRAM chips is a must.
@@Bvoswag also - thank you!
You just didn't do it properly man, that's why LOL I am using the same thermal pads and I am getting great results.
you cannot cover whole heat pipe of backplate by thermal pads, and doing so might decrease heatpipe performance. Its better to understand how does the heatpipe work.
Ugh alienware prebuilt that's were u went wrong bad prebuilt bad gpu!....n those aren't founders cards that's a Dell reference card! Best bet to lower ur temps is get urself a aftermarket gpu kit n install it
any gpu kit recommendation?
Don't stack thermal pads because you're introducing air pockets between them. Not that it matters with that case - zero airflow and shrouded in plastic.
I assume you bought a pre-build as a way of getting a 3080. I have to say there doesn't look like there is good airflow in that case. While it may be a pain and a tad expensive, maybe consider buying something like a Phanteks P500A Digital RGB and some good Noctua fans and transfer all the components over to that case. That would probably do a lot for your thermals. Even if you change the thermal pads, you still need good airflow to cool that VRAM.
Agreed. That may be something I do in the near future. Coming from a built mid tower PC, I was surprised how tight all the components were packed into the R11.
Models have NOTHING to do with it. It does not need thermal pads on that section. 1st those thermal pads are not good, 2nd you cant just throw any size thermal pads on they need to match the same for same size 0.5, 1mm, 1.5mm 2mm etc get that wrong and they could be either stoping the contact, that thermal paste is also junk and you cant just top up thermal paste they are different with different compounds.
Anyone doing this please follow these steps
Take the thermal paste off and replace it
Apply a good amount of decent paste such as Thermal Grizzly or MX4.
Next replace all the thermal pads not just the vram as soon as you remove the heatsink they can split.
If you dont know what size to use then either use a digital or even lay the pads next to each other and you should be able to tell what aize they are
Use something like thermal grizzly or Gelid extreme are pretty good.
I had the exact same experience changing the thermal pads in my 3090, same results of stock pads. Hehehe! Cheers!
You didnt replace the thermal pads on the memory dude. You replaced the backplate pads
I went with 0.5mm pads between the card and the heatsink and it did lower temps by 15-20 deg celsius. I have a feeling double stacking 1mm pads resulted in too much thermal resistance
Did you use 0.5mm for all the thermal pads for the Alienware gpu?
yeah stacking thermal pads is prooven to have opposite effect
Dude, I have the same card. There are a bunch of us over at slickdeals who have taken it apart
1) Always repaste
2) Jack up the fan speed.
I repasted, added 0.5mm pads between the vram heat sink and the main heat sink. I added 1mm pads to the back plate like you did.
Try this:
Lay computer on it’s right side and leave the cover off. You can raise the psu up to give better ventilation for the backplate. I’m in the process of adding new chassis fans but if you are still stock, that side cover adds 2 degrees to vram.
Jack up the fan speed. I set my curve to 70% fan to around 48* on core temp. Your fans are dependent on core temp, not vram temp. Jacking up the fan made a huge difference for me.
I’m getting 97 MH with memory clocked to +1050, power limit at 70%. Card is drawing 225w. VRAM between 88-90*
If I lay it on its right side, the mobo is covering the entire top part?
What do you mean thermal pads between the heatsink and vram heatsink??
@@os3752 lay on the other side that is not blocking the open cover
@@trueno1337 When you dissassemble the 3080, there is a heatsink for the vram and the main heatsink. In the oem config, it does a poor job of tranfering heat from vram heat sink to main heat sink. In the video, he adds paste.
I repasted the 3080 gpu and my system seems to stop crashing while gaming. The thing is, with these high end cards why would we need to do such a thing???
I changed the fans to 2 Corsair 120mm Pro. Was much more quiet, but not better cooling - Zero ! Made a fan Curve with 100 % workload. The fans got up to 61 %. And Idle was 8 Degrees more hot than the Stock Coolers. Result: Changed back the Stock Coolers. Send back the Corsairs. Your changing Fan Experiance would be very interresting to me. For me it was no Alternative.
Did you try 3mm pads? I watched your vid and you did 1mm which might not make contact
Did you see the alternative method where instead of new thermal pads you installed, some folks used thermal paste in that area and got good results. Edit- also, Some have taken off the GPU side black plate on the top of the VRAM and installed thermal pads between the VRAM and the black plate
+1 to using thermal paste instead of thermal pads between the plastic and the heat sink. It's the only thing that significantly dropped my temps.
@@RoccoHorvath yes- my theory is this: if you look at the heat sink, it’s possible that the heat from the gpu, when being dispersed on the heat sink, could actually HEAT the VRAM, as the black metal plate above the VRAM is presumably in contact. The thermal paste will help prevent this, and simultaneously help cool the VRAM.
I purchased a R12 with a 3080 so it’ll be a couple of weeks before I get it so I’ve been doing a lot of reading because I’m unboxing and modifying the 3080 before I turn the thing on 😂
I’ll add that my theory is probably waaaay off but regardless it’s interesting that those who didn’t see results from thermal pads did with thermal paste.
that's exactly what I did, my temps are 88c mem at 50-55% fan speed doing 95mh/s hash. paste the heatsink ram area, redid the thermal pads on the vram 1.5mm, kept stock thermal pads on the backplate but added two 1.0mm (2.0 total) on the outside where the link strip of chips are. You can try 1.5mm there. Then retight the screws in after heating up the card, to break the pads in.
@@Bvoswag Do you have pictures of your install when you did yours? If so, please post them somewhere for us to see.
Bro that ending lolol
And how you say evga ur hilarious
I added a couple of 1mm extra pads to the section of the copper pipes that don't have any (on the back plate cover) and that actually took down the Core temperature a couple of degrees .
My gigabyte 3080 went from 108 to 78 after using these exact pads.
I feel the same, changing the pads didn't help me either
I did change the thermal pads of my Gigabyte RTX 3080 and the temp goes down from 103-105°C to 72-75°C. I think you used the wrong (cheap?) thermal pads. I used 2 and 3mm pads depending on place, and you need to put them on the chips, not on the headsink or backplate. Also when you apply thermal paste, remove the original first. Do it again, do it right and you'll see results.
I got my R10 with RTX 3080. From my experience memory temp between 100d cel to 106d cel with 886 mem, 71 PL and -202 Core and I get 95-96 mhs. I’ve tried to reduce PL to 65 but then hashrate suffer badly - 78/83 mhs.
Just dip the whole thing in the paste. You'll get great results
I left the oem thermal pads alone, added .5mm thermalright pads between the plates (after removing stickers), replaced oem thermal paste on GPU chip with mx-4. OC memory to +800 in MSI afterburner. Sitting at 95mh/s. Overall I'm 10 degrees C lower with a 12mh/s increase.
Dropped 30c on founders 3090. Now run at 80% at 94c fully cranked up memory. Applied the thermals directly to the chips on both sides of the card.
That's awesome brother! How are you liking that 3090?
@@GamerHeavenOfficial great I use it for video production but in downtime its mining now . Good luck if you attempt to change your pad configuration again. Scared me to death changing it but long term it will be worth it.
@@TheTesting1239 currently this moment 121 sitting at 90c. Mine is a founders 3090 in a custom cyberpower pc with amd ryzen cpu. Using nicehash on the new high profile setting.
I think due to their design for this dual-fan 3080, there aren't too many options to reduce the heat. Most of them can only reduce like a few degrees. I just brought an R10 with water-cooled AMD 5800x and rtx3080. Comparing to your R11 with an intel, my CPU temperature is totally a disaster. Heading to 80+°C while gaming. I didn't upgrade any thermal pads or fans except add an NVme SSD just as same as you did. So far, switching fans looks like the best to do. I see there is someone upgrade cooler master water cooler on their Aurora. Don't know if that will help...
Man I was in a similar situation as you are. Bought 5600x + 120mm aio + dual fan 3080. I am not lying to you I bought a new case and a new MOBO to move everything out. The heating is insane in Aurora poor case design so nothing can change it if you want to play hard on this machine...
Ik it's a hassle but could you do a video kinda going over the corrupted file on how much paste and exactly where u put it? I think I need another tube 😂😂😂
hi, i had the same thermal problem with my rtx 3080s
what i did was to change the thermal pads with diy aluminium pads + thermal paste (only on the front side and moved the oem pads on the back side) 12x14mm , 1,5 mm thick for the gigabyte model, and 2mm thick for msi ventus
and now my cards mine eth at 100ms/s whit the memory temp at around 75-80 C
Hey, can you send few pictures how your aluminium pads looking like?
@@danio19901 sure, give me a way to send the pics
Did you remove the stickers on the heat sink before applying the thermal pads?
When you change out the front fans and add another front fan will you make a video on it. Also what other after market VRM Heatsink is out in the market so I can add one to my R11. Thanks
Thanks for doing this video and at least showing how the dell 3080 needs to be disassembled. I've been wanting to replace my pads on my dell's and was hoping to find some vids of others who had done the same, but there weren't any! And I'm sure ppl have already mentioned the mistakes made with replacing the pads so I hope you get proper results next time!
Remove the metal brace and replace the pads on the vram
Measure the pads size that dell uses with a caliper (u should match the thickness)
Clean off the thermal paste and replace
I was told gpu clearance for the aurora is 10.5" L. But 3080s are 11.5" long. Are the Dell versions of these shorter or is online info wrong and 11.5" cards fit in the case? My R12 is coming in the mail and hoping to do a number of upgrades. Thanks. Been enjoying your vids.
Have you considered doing a case swap?
You did not actualy replace old thermal pads. You have to remove the black radiator from PCB, it houses the old thermal pads, and those needs to be removed. Follow ?v=i4ful9eaVSQ TH-cam video to find out what I'm talking about. What you actually did was added additional thermal pads, leaving the old ones in.
Awesome video love the honesty
I appreciate that!
its because its closed case i think because mine was always 110c and now it is at 80c while mining it totally works but you also missed a few key spots it looks like but im not sure if maybe you just didnt show it though
PC cases are not grounded so touching the case is an ineffective means of discharging any built up static. That said, LTT did a whole video showing that static shock isnt a huge issue.
All other gpus have open spot on backplate to those capacitors. No thermal pads.
Yeah that makes sense. That would make a difference then, adding thermal pads if there was none.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial it wouldn't, they are capacitors. Would be a waste of your time
GREAT well thought out video good explaining on what your doing
My 3090RTX does 72c 88c vram
but not constantly
maybe during game that max temp hit just 4 times but avg 68c
hot days can 82 - 90c
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have you figured it out yet bro? I figured it out a couple months ago and repadded all my 3080s from alienware.
I got my 3080s from 3 alienware r12. The same card can do +1200 on memory when installed inside the alienware. In my rig does not go over +1000 or it crashes the system. Do you know why? Have you tried swapping it into another pc? Asus z490 p, 1350w titanium psu and risers from gpurisers. I can't understand why
isnt upgrading thermal pads VOIDING WARRANTY ???
Stop discrediting people when you're not doing right. LMAO
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Although I'm not sure if it's made of metal or plastic, I can see there is already a black plate on VRAM.
You are basically putting extra pads on top of the preinstalled plastic or metal cover.
No wonder why it's not making much difference.
Plenty of people are getting good results with non Dell OEM cards, your card may not be designed for this.
To be honest, I think you did it wrong. Your GPU seems to have a black plastic piece where the actual VRAM is. You put thermal pads where they didn't belong too.. I got about a 20 - 25 degree drop on my 3090 FE so this is not a lie.
104C is unacceptable that’s hot as fuck lol . My 3080FE with gelid Extreme pads hits max 82C on the thermal junction temps. Most of the time it it’s a solid 80C when the ac is on at 70 at night this is mining getting 101Mhs 24/7 !
Just got my R12. First thing I did was swap the fans. One Noctura and One Corsair for the exhaust fan. Then I put the OEM fan in the front as a second fan. I have boot up issues. Black screen, flashing yellow light etc. Got it to boot up and then restarted to install updates. Black screen again. I read this can be an issue when messing with the fans. Any ideas?
The problem is your case is a POS. The case you have is the worst case ever for cooling your PC component. Never buy all-in-one pc gaming, always build it yourself.
104c on the vram… i run at 92-94c at 122mh/s with just thermal paste on the chip and surounding where you’ve put the pads on the cooling block
Good job not understanding the issue. Some manufacturers, like Gigabyte weren't putting thermal pads on the back of the memory. They'd put a huge metal back plate, but nothing to help facilitate the transfer of heat from the memory to the plate.
You won't get the results you're looking for. This specific 3080 is not a FE, it's a custom PCB and cooling solution designed by Dell and not available for individual sale. The thermal pad replacement, is for the 3080 and 90 FE's. I am surprised at your temps though, that backplate has copper heat pipes on the backside of the memory chips. The GDDR6x spec says 115 is fine, STS Miner from the Nicehash discord says 105c is fine. Red Panda Mining says 95c. It's really whatever you're comfortable with, because the longevity data does not exist.
Yeah I knew it was Dell's in house card, but I didn't know it was a different PCB. That's good information about the temps, thank you. Even the Nvidia customer service page says 110C is completely normal and not harmful, but I would still like to drop them lower. With my current settings I sit at about 102-106C while mining Eth at 95MH/s average, which I am pretty happy with.
These cards should all be AIO because they just dump hot air into the case some have complete open case just to not thermal throttle especially 3080ti and above this is even after applying A.M cooling products.
So many bad wrong things in this video dude. You didn't even change the thermal pads on the memory chips of the pcb. You just added pads the heatsink man !!! And never stack thermal pads like u have done on the backplate and also never add thermal paste on top of old different paste brand. No surprise that there is no changes !!! 😂😂😂
It’s a waste of time because how dell designed the card. I’ve been playing with mine all day with no luck.
This guy order the wrong size thermal pad u need 2.5 or 3mm for it to have contact, and using cheap thermal paste. U need to add the thermal pad between the backplate for the vram to transfer. U need better airflow case what’s the point if it has zero airflow?
Yeah a lot gpu model out there..but i think the best gpu is the gpu that the heatsink touching the vram too..that dell 3080, the heatsink not touching vram because of the plate...temp goes down after putting thermal paste on that plate..but im wonder what if we cut that plate into shape to allow the heatsink touching the vram, then put the thermal pad..
At the end, this will allow vram transfer the heat without the plate..vram> thermal pad>heatsink..rather than vram>thermal pad>plate>thermal paste>heatsink
Hey could you put a link for that heatsink?
The biggest waste was spending your money on that pos. Should have stuck with building your own like usual.
30 degrees is fucking steep - its usually around 10 and its for the 3090
U did id the wrong way, I lowered from throttling to 80-85 depending on ambient
Hey, I've been following your Alienware Aurora R10/11 videos. You are very good at explaining how to upgrade this PC. Sooner or later something is bound to not work out. Keep up the good work. Don't be discouraged by these results.
Thanks, will do!
It's probably just not your version, yeah. Dell seems to make really good cooler.
The thickness of the pads makes all the difference you probably got too thick of pads if you didnt see a change
Lucky - mine went up by 10-15 C... ridiculous waste of time and money
I did the same mod same computer lol and I got 10 deg lower 👍 maybe it’s your pads or paste your using
Remove the front fans and connect pc fan. Works great for me. You can buy adaptor online for cheap.
What is the normal temperature on the VRAM?
Is 100 Celsius ok?
This may have worked better if you understood a few things about how computers work
My R10 3080 averages 93mh/s about 102degrees
read my comment, i'm at 95mh/s at 88c mem but at 50-55% fan speed.
for me it dropped the vram temps by 20 degrees on one of my rtx 3080s and 30 on the other. So it isn't too good to be true. It makes a difference.
I just want to say that your one of the best and honest TH-cam creators on the scene and brave as all hell ! Thanks for telling it how it is bro. 👍🏻 I got 4 year best warranty Dell has to offer and I’m gonna run to dog shit out of my R11/3090 and honestly it’s a beast right out of the box... I don’t even have to run msi afterburner for the gpu thermals so far so good.
Thanks man 👍🏻
Also I would like to get the case fan thermal to run higher while gaming
In AWCC in the thermal what does the offset slider do? Thx
Thanks for your video,
What is the website that you check GPU VRAM temperature ?
nicehash
that is brutal. those temps and efficiency are dog shit. your card will die. it aint getting any air in that bullshit case
pads between pcb and vrm heatsink
Thanks for doing this. I didn’t win the silicon lottery with my R11 since it crashes under other people’s settings but I do get 93 hash at 211 watts and my vram is 96-98 -100 core, +600 memory, 66% power, 75% fan. I keep the case open and my PSU swung out. I places 4 aluminum 2 by 2 inch heat sinks around where the pads are and a Corsair pro 120 fan on top of GPU just past the PSU cables to blow the heat off the heat sinks to the back. This fan setup drops 4c and keeping the case open keeps it from being 110c. I noticed the bottom Corsair fan doesn’t do much to cool the gpu beciase not enough air comes through the front of case. Terrible design . I’m curious if a fan instead of the SSD slot will pull in air since there are PSU cables blocking air to the gpu except a small part on bottom and again not enough air squeezes through the front case panel. Curious to see your result and I have a fan ready. I also noticed that when I split two Corsair 120 bottom fans with a Y splitter cable, one fan ramps up speed if I disconnect the other and then back to slowing down if I connect both. Could this mean not enough power going to the fans defeating the point of having 2 fans unless you run them slow?
do u repaste? I did to my r11 3080 and reaches to 101-102mhs.
Bro I lost my shit when he said "not fucking your girlfriend" 😂
Your problem is the Alienware case, there is not enough Airflow!
I changed thermal pads on a vision 3080 and I went from mining at 60-70mh thermal throttling at tjunction temps of around 110 degrees to under 80 degrees tjunction temps at 100+mh. Your pads are too thin for the vram chips and likely weren't making contact. You need 2mm pads, this was a failed application.
Never mind, just saw your pinned comment acknowledging this
I made a mistake by removing my hp rtx 3070, made my temps worse
Case fans and airflow case can cause a lot of temp difference. The Aurora is crap for temps.
Hey,
I added thermal paste in the areas you put thermal pads near the heat sink and it dropped 10 Deg C. Also added heat sinks to the back plate and use a fan to cool it . Mounted the 3080 using a 16x extender cable. Getting around 96MH/sec at 100 C Junction Temp.
I have done in dell RTX 3080.
When you buy an alien where prebuilt”What is this Dell!”
now EVGUH... jesus christ
I call bullshit. I just replaced my thermal pads on my 3080 Suprim X yesterday and from 110'C Memory Junction Temp it went to 76'C memory junction temp, used ThermalRight Odyssey - 12w/mk 3mm on backplate and Thermal Grizzly minus pad 8 - 2mm 8w/mk front plate. Replaced just the memory thermal pads with aftermarket ones from the stock MSI, and the vram ones on the backplate.
This rebuild is so clueless I hope no one looks this as instructional video.
why didn't you reapply thermal paste on gpu...
At 14:18 this clip is classic!!!!
Maybe because u didn't clear the old gunky paste
putting that card in to that machine should be illegal
Universe U watch his video he shows with fins on the back plate of ze 3080
i haven't seen any changes on my temps either after replacing thermalpads. but i can recommend installing heatsinks on the backplate around the square opening.
you dont have to change thermal pads genius
Keep up the good content bro. A little critique: It's "come into play" not place.
thank you.