Dell Aurora R12 RTX 3080 Repaste and Fan optimization - Easy 30 degree temp difference fix!
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- Repasting the Dell R12 Aurora to adjust memory junction temps from about 110 degrees down to around 75 degrees. Also increases hashrate and reduces likelihood of thermal throttling.
Replacement of dell front fan with Noctua.
(note that the other systems illustrated in the video are Dell R11 3080 with i9 and ASUS ROG 3080 i7 system with TUF gaming 3080, not STRIX as mentioned during video)
More Q&A in this related Dell reddit post:
/ dell_rtx_3080_repaste_...
Video is applicable to the Dell R10 / R11 /R12 Alienware models.
Disclaimer: This video is for entertainment purposes and any modifications are to be performed at your own risk.
Fan info update:
Some good news re the Noctua fans with these R10/R11/R12 looks like both the 4 pin and 3 pin Noctua fans are posting correctly in the BIOS without the need to select ESC (no startup errors). Don't think this was the case prior, so perhaps the latest BIOS update from within the last week fixed something.
Also observed that the Arctic P12 4pin fan was still throwing BIOS errors unfortunately. In fact, it was odd that with the Arctic in the front fan connection, and the 2x Noctua fans in the top fan connection, the BIOS threw the error on the "top fan" even though it is the Arctic fan being the culprit. Something to keep an eye out for if you are getting odd fan BIOS errors.
Main note here is that the R11 is now working great with 1x 3pin Noctua A12 on the front, and 2x 4pin Noctua A12s on the top fan connection - NO BIOS errors as of mid April.
FAQ Paste and Fan Links:
Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX, Premium Quiet Fan, 3-Pin (120mm, Brown)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
or Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM, Premium Quiet Fan, 4-Pin (120mm, Brown)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
AND
Noctua NT-H2 10g, Pro-Grade Thermal Compound Paste
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
You can choose between 3 vs 4 pin fan depending on your price preference and whether you want more control over the fan speeds. I find 100% with the 3pin to be acceptable, but some might prefer the 4pin. I threw the 4pin on the pull/push radiator top on the R11 and it is a little overkill.
For paste, many fish in the sea. This Noctua paste was good consistency and easy to apply. You might be able to get away with smaller size tube, but always nice to have a little extra in case something needs remediation, and its not super expensive.
Don't recommend conductive paste as that might be a mess if you get it somewhere electrically unintended.
Have fun!
Disclaimer2: This video is for entertainment purposes and any modifications are to be performed at your own risk.
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FAQ note - Fan and paste info now included in the youtube video text description.
Don't mix stock paste with ur new paste mate. You could get another 10 degree drop from cleaning the stock paste out and replacing with a completely new paste of your choice.
@@DominickDecocko sounds like a good tip, thanks. I fully replaced all the paste when changing out the fans for the CPU, but decided just to leave the GPU paste in this instance. If you get some crazy results post mod with the GPU paste Refresh/replacement, let us know.
@@pounderuptech8353 Manufacturers choose certain type of paste that lasts for decades. It will last decades without degrading in quality. Alienware is especially notorious for choosing such type of pastes. While it has long lasting benefits, their heat soaking capacity is subpar. Also alienware is notorious in making a mistake thicker than needed thermal pads.
@@DominickDecocko Interesting, I am not too familiar with the Alienware Dell brand, and that paste on the GPU was definitely thicker as you described. I’ll swap out the paste completely next time. Thanks for the input and helpful background info.
@@TheTesting1239 see some of the other posts here, looks like some with 3090 have applied the steps successfully. I don’t have a 3090 first hand to let you know, but take a look at the comments from others here.
Hey man you're doing gods work out here. Huge props for being straight to the point and not clickbaiting like basically every other youtuber out there. Much love from down here in Australia, thank you so much for making this !! Ill be trying this when my R11 3080 gets here on the 21st :)
Thanks for the feedback Andrew and hope you enjoy your new machine for mining, gaming or both. Hope the mods are a success.
The machines are still running with no issues at all here after around 2+ months. Same temps as original adjustment, so paste is holding up well performance wise. Best wishes to you in Australia mate!
@@pounderuptech8353 Hey man, performed this mod on my card. I get 100Mhs with a 1350+ mem OC though I still get 92 degrees C on my juncture (this is down from 109c). Big jump, dont get me wrong. But Im thinking my paste (MX-5) is too thin... Its pumping out I think, and thats hurting thermals tbh
@@obsoletenerdsomewhere7228 the 92 degrees is still a great result, nice work! Your environment temp may be higher which can influence the overall temp.
@@pounderuptech8353 I should note actually, that I am running the case fans and the gpu fans at half speed because it’s in my bedroom!!
edit: down to 88 after putting additional pads inside the gpu on the heat sink
@@obsoletenerdsomewhere7228 great result Andrew, thanks for sharing!
Can't thank you enough. Best, most detailed, comprehensive and accurate vid out there regarding these 3080's. 108°/98mh/s before. 86°/99.62mh/s after. Wow. That temp drop is unreal.
Sweet results Tony! Thanks for sharing the excellent work, and glad you enjoyed the video.
Hey I wanted to update you on my progress and thanks to you it has lower my temps to around 78-80 so far! It's a lot better than seeing those 💯.. I was very stressed and worried that adding the paste would be difficult but your video and steps helped me through it! I'm so glad you made this video especially for the Dell because I got the same exact one as yours
That is really awesome news, great job Thinh! Those are great results. Keep in mind that there is variability from silicon chip to chip, so its not an exact science. My two units vary by temp and performance too with the same settings. So don't sweat a few degrees here and there.
Congrats and happy gaming or mining!
This video was just what I was looking for. I really didn't want to mess with all of those pads. I appreciate it, mate! Thumbs up and subscribed! Also the fan replacement was just what I needed. Thank you!!!
Most welcome. Appreciate your comment.
Came here from Slickdeal. I have a feeling the ambient temp in my apartment is high but i was able to follow your directions, add the new fan and the paste. It was running at an average of 108. These changes brought it down to low 90 but was still getting about 85 MH/s. I copied your MSI settings and am now getting about 96 MH/s at 98 degrees. That's way higher than yours but still a lot lower than it was, producing more. Thanks for the help and posting this video. I wish I'd done it two weeks ago when I got the computer!
Great job O. Main goal is to keep the temps well below 110 on the memory so that your mining or gaming performance does not throttle. Around 96 Mh/s is in the right ballpark, you might be able to tweak out a couple more Mh but close to the optimal of around 100.
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Glad to see it worked out for you!
Best walkthrough GPU repaste I've seen. Nice work. I will be referring back to this when I get mine ;)
Hope you get nice results.
Thank you for this video!!! I plan on doing this when my R10 arrives next month.
You are most welcome Bay. Good luck with your new R10 and let us know if you reach success temp wise.
Amazing results. Thank you for sharing ! Greatly appreciated. I will try for my R12 too.
Sounds good Nan, let us know how your results work out - hope you see some great temps.
I wanted to say you’ve saved me a lot of hellfire temps and trouble, I didn’t want to wait for new thermal pads, so thanks!
You are most welcome. Appreciate your comment.
I can't thank you enough sir. I bought a NT-H1(which is half the price of NT-H2 from where I live) and followed your instruction to the letter. The result is just wonderful. I'm able to mine at around 88 MH/s using Lite optimization with Nicehash. Memory Junction Temp is 94 degrees with a quiet 60% fan speed. I could pump up the hash rate, but I wouldn't want to bother my wife and kids with the wailing noise when they walk past my room.
Before this graphic card mod, my card was mining 82 MH/s at 104 degrees with 100% fan speed, which is simply too loud for me.
I couldn't be more satisfied, great video, recommend to all R12 owners.
Fantastic results Yi. So glad it worked well for you.
Thank you, this is exactly the level of detail I needed.
Glad things worked out well for you.
This tutorial is amazing. My R12 3080 now runs silently at full power. Thank you so much!
Great to hear Jay. Glad you enjoyed the video.
You removed the Stickers and put Thermal Paste on it?
@@Jiji67298 Correct, remove the stickers and place paste on the metal plate so that heat can transfer from the two surfaces, including the one with the vram chips. The video walks through all the steps to achieve a reduced temperature.
@@Jiji67298 /Yes
Thank you thank you thank you.... After having heat problem for a few weeks your tips really solve my problem. Normally my R12 3080 vram 98-106 celcius. Need a/c during hot days. Now it is 94-96. Just add the paste. I used cooler master paste htk 002. I did watch other videos, your instructions is easy to follow.
Great job Alina. Around 94 degrees is a nice improvement for sure. Happing gaming/mining!
this helped me so much on my R12 , thank you!!
Thanks for the informative video! Also nice batman GMT Master II on the oyster bracelet. 👍
Thanks for the comment. Re Batman, indeed, favorite daily driver ever.
Thank you so much, this was extremely helpful! I only cleaned up the current paste with new paste. I did not both with replacing the OEM fan. Seeing a pretty good drop in temperature already. Thanks!
Glad things worked well for you Harish.
@@pounderuptech8353 Have you tried changing the thermal pads? If so, were you able to see any improvements?
@@mango621 hi Harish, no, the thermal pads have remained the same. About 6 months of mining with no issues just performing the paste.
@@pounderuptech8353 Thanks again man! I'm also mining for about 3 months and no issues with this paste.
On behalf of the SD community, thanks for this informative video.
You are very welcome Andrew. The other PC in the background (R11) has been working well for mining and gaming post mods as well for weeks. Hope that your new unit works great and brings much enjoyment. If you have any questions about the mods, feel free to ask.
Thank you!! I was nervous to do this but your guide’s detail made it much easier. Seems to have been successful! 60-65 Celsius at load and 28-31 at idle or browsing. Now if I can just find a way to tell the bios to accept my noctua fan upgrade, I’ll be all set… lol
Great job Tyler. Glad it worked out well for you.
I have a 3080 and 3090 for mining and temps have been crazy! Going to try this out. Thank you!
Hope things work out well Dallin. You are welcome.
did it work? im waiting on my 3090
@@TheRealElectricOutdoors it did!! Seems silly that throwing some cheap paste on them works but it lowered temps by about 12°C. Great hack!! I used XM50 from Best Buy since they had it in stock. Good luck!
This is so cool. I've seen many other videos that make it look difficult for a noob like me, but this I can do.
Thank you ill keep you posted.
Sounds good Neo, glad you enjoyed the video. Just take your time if you decide to perform the modification and hope that you can achieve positive results.
@@pounderuptech8353 Thank you I just did it. I am now at 92° down from 106°.
I haven't got my fans yet but I'll do those later as well.
Still mining about 100MH/s and the fans are definitely not blowing as hard.
😄😄
@@nisaac86 That is a great improvement, nice work Neo! Thanks for sharing your positive result.
Great video! Previously was pushing 70 MH/s from thermal limits of 110c. Just applied, and I’m seeing a consistent 95 MH/s at 100-102c with the stock Dell intake fan (Waiting for the ML120 pro). Very impressive results!
Also, biggest takeaway is the fan noise. Fan now just runs at 74% on Auto, compared to 100% previously. Might not seem like a lot, but if you’ve heard 100% on this card, it reaches small vacuum levels.
That is a great result both for performance and sound. Nice work Tristan, thanks for sharing your update.
Just did this on my new Alienware R12. Thank you bro!
Nice work Ryan, glad things worked well for you!
This was super helpful, thank you. I repasted my 3090 a couple of weekends ago with this guide and have been seeing 22 degree drops while mining ever since (86-88 on the vram). I can finally get 120mh/s out of it without feeling like i'm killing the card. To those doing 3090s: it's exactly the same process, the only difference being the backplate might be slightly more stuck on than depicted in the video. This is because we have VRAM on the back of the pcb, complete with more thermal strips. I recommend gently rotating the backplate clockwise and counter-clockwise once you get the screws out to unseat the pads, as they can become extremely bound up once the screws are torqued and the plate is pushed into the pcb.
Great result Harold, and thanks for sharing your tips for the 3090.
Could you remove that GPU and put it into a rack or different computer?
@@maxklinemk yes, see my note to the other query.
Thank you Harold. Btw, how do you open the plat to paste it without destroying the thermopad on the backplate?
How long did your 3090 run before that? I havent had terrible temps after 6 months straight of mining.
Thank you! My pc sits in the living room so I could not mine because the fans were too loud, but after the mod you demonstrated I can mine at 85 MH with fans at 55% and mem junct at 85c. I can mine at 100MH but fans are too loud.
Note to anyone questioning why not use thermal pads - I tried with 0.5mm thermal pads but they were still too thick. This caused my GPU to get hot fast 80+, I guess the .5 pushed the gpu away from heat sink. I know other people have had success with the pads but i could not get it to work. I am not a pro at this so maybe i messed up the paste on the GPU or something.
Nice result Phil. And thanks for sharing the info about modification with pads.
Thanks for your video. Gave me the courage to do this upgrade. Has brought down my 3080 by a good 10-15 while hashing. Its amazing to me such a simple thing was not done by factory. I only got my dell r6 two months ago so they must have known how to do this. In any case. THANKS!
Great job Ruben. Glad to hear things are working well for you.
Thanks for this excellent guide. For others people's benefits:
* Yes, the same procedure is almost identical on the 3090 - just take note of which screws go where!
* Remove all the thermal paste - never mix them. Rubbing alcohol does a great job
* I did remove the stickers, but didn't change the thermal pads. If better prepared I would prefer to find replacement quality pads
* Result for me is around a 15C drop in temperature, mining at around 113Mh at 75% fan. Still tuning!!
* I used a NoiseBlocker B12-P fan instead - very quiet and no errors
Thanks for posting this - very clear and easy to follow!!
how do you open and paste the ram without destroying the thermalpads?
@@thanadeehong921 carefully!! When I removed the backplate they separated easily for me. I just reused the same pads, but in hindsight i should have put new better quality ones in.
Nice feedback and educational notes. Appreciate the helpful info!
wow this alleviates my concerns a lot about my purchase, thank you for this
You are welcome Maxwell. Hope you are getting good results.
Thanks for your advice, it really working!
Great to hear Robert, thanks for sharing the good news.
Great video on how to bring down temp. I am getting 92-94 degrees with just the Paste application on GPU. Not changed the Fan. Getting 95 Mh/s with 75% Fan Speed. Temp is way better than before the mod. It was 106 degrees with 100% Fan. Side note- my VRam temp is down to 90 with side panel off. I think i did not win the silicon lottery like you did.
Nice work loglog. Those are some good temps, clearly a nice improvement. Like you mention, the MHs mining could be a little improved, maybe try playing a little more with the msi settings. Hopefully you’ll be able to squeeze out closer to 99MHs. Either way, nice job on the mod.
Thanks so much! Straight and to the point + ASMR quality voice lol
Glad it worked out well for you. Thanks for watching.
Thanks! Used this as a tut for my R8 repaste. It used to be extremely loud.
Also nice batman :)
Nice job, thanks for the feedback
Bear repast video I’ve seen. Ty.
Best*. :)
@@davidfrancis2163 great to hear you enjoyed it David. Hope you get nice results.
You are the man!!! Thanks for the video was a huge help!
Great to hear Lance, you are most welcome. Hope the mods went well for you.
Great video, really appreciate it! Also from SD.
Glad you enjoyed it, hope you get great results.
You probably saved my and other's GPU. Doing god's work
Glad it is working well for you. Enjoy!
Thanks for sharing. I took corsair CPU paste on the 3090, the result is apparently better, unboxed it can be > 119(almost 120), after boxed it is now >117(T 57"C).
Nice work Fei.
Very helpful video. I got my R11 3080 VRAM temps down to 92 deg C from 104 degC (22-23 deg C room temp)! My fans don't have to run at max anymore =)
Nice results Gavin, great work!
Cheers for the vid. Just ordered one. Nice Batman btw.
Thanks for watching stantos. Indeed, favorite timepiece ever, enjoying every day.
Just finished doing the paste worked out perfect drops my temperature by at least 20°
Sweet, nice result. Thanks for sharing the update.
Nice! My memory was a 110c before. Currently mining at 84c. Thanks
Great job David! Happy mining and gaming.
Your only video and it’s heroic. Man, thanks again. With all fans at 100 I’m getting 84c on the memory junction down from at worst 113c while mining. In Dell’s performance fan mode (gpu fans still 100) I sit at 90c. How do you run your tower fans?
I’ve been able to gain nearly 20 mph/s and have cooler temps than ever as a result. I’m not scared to use my desktop now! 😄
Lol, thanks for the kind comment. Glad the mod worked well for you.
thanks for your video,my computer is saved
Hope things work out well for your pc uniaf.
You made getting those stickers off look effortless you alien
damn that's a nice watch good taste
Favorite watch of all time, daily driver 24/7.
Thanks Bro!
You are welcome. Hope it works well for you.
Thanks for the nice video. Very descriptive and useful shots. I did the mod on my new 3080 AW R12. Still sucks; gpu runs at 60 and mem temps at 102 even after the mod at stock settings doing 74m/h.. I ordered 2 of the same box, the other twin does 90mh without any noise or fuss although its mem temps are 110 too. Crazy.
If I remove the side panel the card will do 98m/h hopefully replacing a few case fans will get me into a better place. geez.
Good old silicon lottery. Still a good improvement though, at least not throttling any more.
@@pounderuptech8353 Yeah, with the side panel off it will sustain 95mhs so at least it gets there
Thank you. I used a cheap thermal copper, but the junction temperature dropped by 20 degrees.
Great result, nice job.
Dude thanks!!!!
You are welcome, enjoy!
amazing video! i just did the same thing to my R12 on m 3080.. temps are down to 76-80 C ,
Great job Danny, thanks for sharing your update
Thanks for the informative video. I did a brief cleaning and repaste thermal grease（using thermal grease from EK AIO). I see memory temp drops from 100-104 c to 88-90 c with same ambient temp. I know it is still sub healthy temps but I am pretty happy with the results so far!! BTW so disappointed to reference the design.
Nice work Sihai, great result.
Great video thx for sharing this is what I need to do with mine.
Also what Noctua fan did you use and did the bios freak out. I’m thinking about the Corsair ML-120Pro but I heard Noctua are good too. Hey thx man 👍🏻
Disregard I got the model from 7:50 sorry
@@Mako-sz4qr I’ve used both the 4pin and 3pin Noctua fans. The 3 pin does not throw a bios error but is less configurable. The 4pin throws a bios error.
I also have an Arctic A12, and it threw a bios error, but can esc it through to continue.
Nice watch
Thanks Hans. Love it too, 24/7 daily driver.
Great God, thank you very much, always looking for a way
You are very welcome!
wow thank you
You are welcome, hope it works out well for you.
Great info. Could lower VRAM Temp from 106 to 82C and my hashrate went up from 95 to 100MH/s. Thank you!
That is a fantastic result. Great job TDB, congratulations! Glad to hear the walkthrough was successful.
I cannot get it below 94. What is your oc settings and power and mv
@@Jayshna please refer to the video, all settings are Present in the early portion of the video step by step.
thanks!
Just ordered Some paste and both the 3 pin and a 4 pin fan. I might get another fan later. I haven't had problems with my R11 10900 with 3080 so far, but got it in January and I live on the Utah/Arizona border. Summer is coming, and I like to sleep with my PC on so ready to quiet it down.
If anything you should get a performance boost for the effort. Hope it works out well.
Great improvement. I would recommend not to put new thermal paste over the old though.
Thanks for the tip John.
Would you mind elaborating on why this is not recommended, John?
@@rollnrollnroll Hi Amir. Leaving the old thermal paste on can lead to uneven distribution of the thermal paste, there is a fair chance that applying over old paste will result in bubble/void which will lead to higher temperatures.
If you're replacing thermal paste applied by the manufacturer, there's also a fair chance that they're using lower quality paste than many aftermarket pastes which are available to you.
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Lol, glad things worked out.
Any updates on how this GPU is holding up now? Thanks great simple tutorial btw
I just picked one of these up used with the seller description saying it crashes after an hour furmark test, I was expecting to find overheating memory since this is a known issue. Nope GPU hot spot temp over 100c, someone had already done this mod but the GPU itself had terrible coverage, it almost looked like they forgot that needed paste too. Cleaning up after that for a repaste was atrocious, but I dropped about 20c, I actually increased memory temps, maybe I used worse pads than before and I didn't have the same level of coverage to be sure, but the $300 3080 lives and at long last I have upgraded GPUs.
Really nice guide there mate. A question, what's your basement ambient temperature? 74deg is really low =)
Hi JL, thanks for the feedback and your very good question, which is why it was emphasized that the video was filmed in a basement that is typically cooler. I measured the temp in the basement, looks to be about 67-68 degrees. I had moved the R11 from upstairs in the home and the temp was within a couple degrees post move to basement.
Thanks for the video. Curious, why not clean out the existing paste before applying the new stuff?
I was in a bit of a rush the day of preparing the machine for the update, and knew that the prior R11 had a great result without renewing the paste. As a best practice, replace the paste, but may not be needed when the card is brand new. Good tip for most cases though.
I do appreciate the info video, thank you! but for managing expectations, the before and after HWInfo have different voltage and cpu clocks, the later being undervolted.
Hi Mihai, thanks for watching the video. You’ve mentioned the whole point to the video which is to show stock vs modified performance. I applied the settings in the same manner in both instances before and after. Perhaps there is some variability in the way that the card operates each time, but the main note here is that instead of the stock performance being near 110 degrees, it is now at or below 80 degrees. I’m not seeking decimal math here, just the overall difference in thermal and mining/gaming performance. A week later it is still 78 degrees junction temp on the R12 and 84 degrees on the R11, and the performance is around 99 Mh/s. So the performance and results are consistent for the outcome.
Thanks for watching and hope your system is performing well.
@@pounderuptech8353 Yes, thank you, hope that yours aswell. Was it worth it Noctua fan swap? Noise and thermals or mostly noise-wise? For me, with initial tests, If is push the front fan too much seems that the GPU struggles more in picking up that pushed air.
@@MihaiMecea hi Mihai, the Noctua fan swap is purely for less noise. The original fans are quite good air flow wise, but very loud. I’m not sure about the GPU fan with more vs less air, as I haven’t really studied that.
Thank you so much for this video I just got the same dell and card as yours ...I really appreciate your steps on this because I had no idea how to even take it off... I did read everyone changing the pads as well but yours doesn't seem like it needed to so I really hope when I try this out I get the same results... I got the attic silver 4 thermal paste .. is that okay or should I get the same as yours ... Its going to also take a few days for all this to come so I was wondering do you think it's okay to start mining with those high temps at the moment ..Appreciate your help and would like any updates on how it's going for you
Hi Thinh, many folks have had success changing pads on the 308- cards, which is great. I might need to do the same on my other ASUS TUF 3080 card. However, for this Dell 3080mcard, they seem to be using some vapor chamber cooling that has less need for replacing the pads. I’d suggest if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it approach with the Dell. Start with paste and see how it goes. The paste is applied between two metal surfaces, so should not be too messy in the unlikely event of needing to clean. I’m still seeing around 76 to 78 degrees memory temp on this R12 after a couple days and around 82 to 84 degrees on the R11. The R11 was less paste, but could also be silicon lottery difference too.
Arctic silver 4 should work fine. Most of the pastes are within margin of error same performance wise. Just avoid conductive paste to avoid possible electrical shorting issues. The paste I used on the R11 was literally years old and it still is doing fine. Just use what you have available and it will probably be within a couple degrees of other choices.
I would not specifically recommend mining with consistently high 110 degree temps. Pay yourself $15 a day to play games while you wait, lol. Running the vram at 110 degreees doesn’t seem good for the physical properties of the silicon, and I personally would avoid it. Just do it right and get those temps at least consistently below 100 and hopefully below 80.
If you have any questions let me know. Best of luck with your upcoming mods. Just take your time and have fun.
I love the look of this PC, it looks like Dyson made it lol, I just wish the air intake was better, if I could redesign it I'd make it large enough to properly fit the PSU without putting it on a foldable rig and slap 3 intake fans in the front and 1 output fan on top and 1 in the back for positive air pressure
Agree they would sell more if the case was a little larger form factor to allow for more optimal air flow.
@@pounderuptech8353 it is a very nice but poorly implemented large curved shape held together by a cheaper and smaller boxed pc case... It would've been OK if they actually made use of the convex side panels and made use of a wind tunnel design but they don't actually do anything other than make an artists impression of the whole concept. I also have this r12 but with the cheapo cpu air cooler and I think there's absolutely no way the design engineers met their budget so judging by the cpu air cooler being sourced from an OptiPlex... they obviously came under pressure from Dell Management and then made some consumer abusive decisions.
@@18yearsoldnot agree that an air cooler in this case fir the CPU would be likely disaster. I have both the 7 and 9 series intel with these units, and the 9 series would be far too hot with air cooling. It is acceptable with the liquid radiator cooling. Everything is a tight fit in there, but it has been fine for 6 months.
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R10: Since I commented here before, and I am too lazy to make my own video, this is what I did: I bought two ML120 Pro's and still had two ML120'ish fans from a Corsair watercooler. Push Pull ML120 Pro + ML120 on the radiator. Removed the HDD (it lives now on the bottem, removed the 2.5inch bays), and Installed a ML120'ish fan there, replaced the front fan with the ML120pro. So now, I have 4 fans. Didn't go for the Noctua fans. Still a noisy beast. Temps on the CPU seem a few degrees better. Still have to do the 3080, I don't mine, just play some simulators and it averages at 80-90 on the memory junction, don't know if its worth the trouble.
Oh, CPU idles at 40 with the "Balanced Profile". Fans don't show higher than 67% now, instead of the originals that went to 100%, in the Fusion thingy.
Oh Noes, tested Memory Junction Temps again max 100, average 95....
Hi Tony, thanks for sharing. Yes, that does sound like some effort and the difference is marginal. Clearly the largest opportunity are the software adjustments (msi afterburner settings) and the re-paste. The fans are an added bonus, sounds like you did a nice job there. any BIOS post errors on startup with those fans?
@@pounderuptech8353 No...
@@tonyvierstra2685 so you are just running the 1 3.5 inch HDD, which is on the bottom, a fan beside it, replaced the intake fan, and did a push/pull again for the exhaust for a total of 4 fans?
Thank you for this video. Extremely helpful. May I ask which miner program you use? Also do you use a pool? Thanks again!
I’m using t-Rex for the etherium miner. It has been running for weeks without any issue. For the pool, I started with ethermine, but there was a week where I didn’t trust the output, so I switched to flex pool, which has been running fine since. These pools can be configured to let you know when one of your PCs/cards goes down. Many choices out there, these are just a couple of examples that seem to work well.
Great vid!
@@Decimuss glad you enjoyed it.
have similar r12 3080, paste helped stabilize hash rate and memory junction temp (not as good as your results though). Unfortunately, noctua fan NF-A12x25 caused boot to lockup... tried several times.
Glad you saw an improvement in temps and performance. Ambient temps will play a role too. Too bad the bios is so finicky with the fan configs, hopefully dell will address this at some point.
Yeah, I had the same issue with my two noctua front fans on a y splitter. I’ve just adjusted to hitting escape as part of the boot process lol. I’m going to ask Dell/Alienware about it. Seems silly to have a fan replacement/upgrade throw errors just because it’s not stock fan specs
Thank you. Great video. I see so many people online using Corsair ML120 Pro fans in these without getting bios errors. Have you heard about that?
Yes, I’ve heard of folks using the Corsair fans, but I don’t have first hand xp with them.
My R12 with the 3080 is arriving this week and I'm so excited😁. Thanks for showing how to apply the paste. I don't plan on doing any mining with my pc, I'm just using it for gaming. Would you recommend doing the paste mod in my situation? Obviously it would help the card regardless of mining or not, and I feel like I should do it, but I'm not sure if it's worth the chance of breaking the card if I'm not mining. Lowering those vram temps seem like the way to go, especially if I want to mess with an overclock someday, I'm just not sure if I should do the paste right out of the box.
Every individual needs to make their own decision whether to mod or not. It is a powerful card and seems disappointing to play with it throttling back on performance and FPS just due to a suboptimal design. But your call. If you decide to mod, just take your time and be careful with the electronics.
At a minimum though, run those software settings and that will help with your temps and FPS too.
@@pounderuptech8353 thanks for the insight, I think I'm gonna go ahead and apply the paste. If only for the simply fact that I want those stickers removed as well. What where they thinking lol
@@pounderuptech8353 so I finally got around to doing the mods. I got the 3 pin noctua fan, the one posted in the link. I don't have any control over speed and it apparently is at 45% no matter what setting its on. Is this normal? Is this why you stated something about the 4 pin fan in the description? Idk it wasn't clear to me. At the fans current setting it is much more silent, but doesn't have nearly enough air flow.
Great informative video, what MSI Afterburner Skin is that? I don't ever recall seeing this one, thanks
I just downloaded the MSI afterburner from the official site a couple days ago. No interface settings were changed, all default, So if you do the same in the near future, the skin should match. Thanks for the comment.
Awesome walkthrough! I just placed an order for 6 R12s. How many machines do you have? And have you thought about running 2 3080s in one R12 to save on power overhead?
You can do that?
@@eliasgreyson4206 depends on the PSU that the system has. The R12 has a 1000w power supply and can easily run 2 3080 graphic cards.
I’m running an R11 and an R12. The power is not so expensive, so simply running both normally. I’d rather have the cards well cooled vs save a few dollars on electricity. Hope you enjoy the machines. Mine have been great, 24/7, same temps as in the original video about q.5 months later.
Thank u so much bro perfect video you are legend i wanna ask bri is it warranty void if open gpu and change the paste ??
Hey J, really glad you enjoyed the video. No idea re the warranty. I think of it as obtaining proper performance and enjoyment at the given risk/cost. When this thing is throttling at 110 degrees, might as well just get a 3070. Instead, would rather unleash the full value of the 3080. Hope the mods go well for you if you decide to proceed, as the risk to mod is an individual decision.
No opening the card will NOT void your warranty in the US. Unless its determined you intentionally damaged something we have right to repair in the US
Thank you so much for this video! It answers a lot of questions and doubts I have with my Aurora R11 RTX 3080. I do have another question though:
Will the Noctua NF-A12x25 PMW (4 pin) work on the front fan area, or must it be the 3 pin type? Did you manage to test it out? Thank you so much once again!
Hi Alen, I’ll need to double check if my R11 has the 4pin or 3pin in front now. I know my R12 is 3 pin and is fine. Will let you know..
I just recently purchased the Noctua NF-A12x25 PMW (4pin) and it’s giving me an error on the Alienware R12. Just wanted to give you a heads up Alen. I’ve been working on the fans all night; just ordered ML120 Pro 120mm and will be using those. I have read many forums and this is what is compatible from my understanding
@@pounderuptech8353 That's really weird... always thought the forumers specifically mention to get 4pin NF-A12x25 PWM for R12. Yours is FLX - 3 pin, as clearly shown in this video
Thanks for sharing. R10 owner here, looking for less noise and better temps. You replaced the case fan with a FLX fan, non PWM version. I thought that 3 pin fans would cause a boot up error... Why the FLX and not the PWM version?
Hi Tony, I think the opposite is occurring for my systems. The 4 pin Noctua is giving bios error as top fan on my R11 as 2x dual pull/push config. The 3 pin Noctua on the front R12 is not giving any bios error. Since the fan is quiet enough to run at 100% for me, I am preferring the 3 pin and no bios error at the moment. If you hear or see differenly, let me know and perhaps I can double check or do a quick fan swap/mix at some point.
@@DeadlyPurpose So glad you asked this Q Deadly.. Went to the R11 to do some double checking after this most recent BIOS update from April 2021 and learned something new!
Some good news re the Noctua fans with these R10/R11/R12 looks like both the 4 pin and 3 pin Noctua fans are posting correctly in the BIOS without the need to select ESC (no startup errors). Don't think this was the case prior, so perhaps the latest BIOS update from within the last week fixed something.
Also observed that the Arctic P12 4pin fan was still throwing BIOS errors unfortunately. In fact, it was odd that with the Arctic in the front fan connection, and the 2x Noctua fans in the top fan connection, the BIOS threw the error on the "top fan" even though it is the Arctic fan being the culprit. Something to keep an eye out for if you are getting odd fan BIOS errors.
Main note here is that the R11 is now working great with 1x 3pin Noctua A12 on the front, and 2x 4pin Noctua A12s on the top fan connection - NO BIOS errors as of mid April.
I'll add this to the video description info.
Hey I was one of the first to watch your video and since then I'm glad it has helped so many people. I would appreciate your feedback again as I been running dell for the last 6 months with no huge issues aside from temps going from low 80s to 90s ( during hotter days like 75 degree). Is it okay to keep running the 3080s when it reaches 90 degree? During the hot hours I would give it some time to rest and cool off but lately my nights are more warm and my temps been staying around 90s. Do you think replacing the pads now would help further? How about repasting ? When should I apply new thermal paste since it's been 6 months now. I also was wondering what are the best ways to clean up the fans as it's getting dustier after 6 months now. Appreciate any feedback ty
I ran my 3080 cards for about 1.5 years doing the mining and they are all still running good as new post mod. From the research I observed at the time, the pad replacement did not appear as predictable. Dust with fans is common and a quick vacuum ought to clean that up. Just be careful of static discharge if vacuuming (ground yourself - keep contact with metal chassis.).
@@pounderuptech8353 hey thanks for the reply after all this time .. now is your r12 holding up now? Since mining ETH ended are you mining any other coins instead? As for me I stopped for now but also had problems with my r12 failing on me. I had the 7 yellow blinking signs of ☠️ which turns out to be the motherboard failing after just less than a year with the computer. This happen to 4 of my r12s so I hope you didn't get similar issues.
I have a question, why was the old thermal paste not cleaned up?
Was in a time crunch at the time. Optimally replace the old paste, but this unit was brand new, so may not have made much difference either way.
Hey I know you didn't replace the backplate pads, but any idea of their thickness?
Thanks for sharing! I saw you put your thermal paste in a U shape. Will that create air bubble when closing the lid?
The paste will spread/collide when the two surfaces squeeze together. I think an air bubble/chamber is unlikely.
@@pounderuptech8353 I see. Thanks!
This is the best video I've found after days of research. Thank you good Sir. Do you know if I can do exactly this with my r10 ryzen edition? (7 5800 non x, rtx 3090)
Thanks for the feedback. Not familiar with that particular card, so no first hand results to offer there.
thx for video. but i am wondering does this small modification invalidate the warranty?
No idea. 6 months and no issues here.
Watching to see the 3080 fan swap, but wanted to say I personally do NOT wear my DayDate II in yellow gold when I work on my PC!!
Lol, batman is the daily driver. Removed when doing major tools work, but otherwise we’re good to go.
I just did your same method on my R12 RTX 3080, but it made no difference in temps. Removed stickers and pasted all 4 sides just like you did, still over 100-104 degrees while ETH mining. What did I do wrong? I just used thermal paste I had laying around, Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond.
Hi Andy, not sure why no difference. Did you use enough paste to make the two plates have contact via the paste? Also make sure to do the software adjustments with the power level, clock etc. via with MSI tool.
Excellent video! Did you modify the Asus Tuf 3080 from the RoG machine as well? I have an Asus Tuf OC 3080 and it runs hotter than yours. I see mine at 104-106* junction memory temp at 1200Mhz VRAM.
Hi Jonathan, in the video I show the ASUS TUF card performance after only about 24 hours of ownership. It is using the exact same msi afterburner settings as documented in the video. I just checked the temps on the system after running mining 24/7 for over a week and it states 96 degrees memory junction temp. No physical card modifications. The MSI software changes are applied, and I painstakingly installed 3 more case fans on this ASUS ROG Best Buy garbage system, which helps to mitigate the temperature pain of this cheap quality PC.
One day I might modify the 3080 TUF card as well, but for now it is running 96 and obtaining 99 Mh/s, so riding as is for now. My ambient Basement temps are cool which also helps.
If there is enough interest, I could perform a mod video of that card too, which would likely include some pad replacement.
Hope your TUF card is working okay and also that is it not in one of these ROG cases, lol.
@Stanislav Trifan 96 degrees will be fine, as the card does not throttle until 110 degrees. Having 96 is not optimal, but will operate fine.
try what this guy did, heat sink & fan
th-cam.com/video/BjsFfXvUcxE/w-d-xo.html
You didn't have boot error with the noctua fan? Have an R12 and would really like to upgrade the junk fans and add a second intake where the mechanical drive is, but I keep reading everywhere that those fans will throw an error since bios is looking for the OEM fan's higher RPM's. Any ideas?
Nice Rolex Batman
Thanks Jean. It is a 24/7 daily driver and enjoyed very much.
@@pounderuptech8353 Rolex are my favorite daily watches. I have a 116000 white dial and I still enjoy it 2 years after acquiring it.
Merry Christmas :)
Oh boy I was replacing my fans tomorrow and now you got me thinking of tearing apart my 3090. Gotta see what the memory junction temp is before. Didn’t even know that was a thing besides the main GPU temp. 😓😓
Take a look at your performance and see if it dips once the card reaches 110 degrees on the memory. If it reaches 110, performance will throttle back. To avoid this, you can improve the card like what is described in the video. If you decide to proceed, just work carefully and your hard work will pay off.
@@pounderuptech8353 obviously any warranty will be voided if I do this?
@@andrewb2637 I don’t know for sure. Mixed opinions on the topic. Either way, take your time and just be careful.
@@pounderuptech8353 so I tried the fans and I get a bios issue, sucks. I did add thermal paste as you show in the video and got a big improvement on temperature. about 15 degree drop in VRAM temps and 5 degrees for GPU itself. I had my PC running a very demanding benchmark for about a half hour and max GPU temp was 73 degrees and VRAM 92. Not bad considering the heat box and shit stock fans. Its much nicer seeing my GPU temp at 69 degrees when playing CoD at max settings (minus Ray tracing). Thanks for the video. Now I need to figure out what premium fans are compatible. They say the Corsair ML120 Pro non-RGB works but I cant even find those things without paying like $60 for (1) fan and cant return it if it doesn't work. Having trouble finding the exact model of stock fan too so I can at least add a couple extra for improved intake and exhaust flow. I ran a second benchmark and opened the case midway and noticed an instant 2 degree drop. Maybe ill just run the computer with the side panel off when I use it since its such an easy removal
@@andrewb2637 nice work Andrew, glad to hear you were successful with the temps, good job. Regarding the fan, the arctic fan I tried had bios error, but the Noctua is good without bios error. The specific fans I’ve used successfully are in the video summary text here.
One wonders why Dell doesn't use decent fans and paste to cure all the issues. Their most expensive stuff is a bit off-putting. If maintaining the original components, maybe the 3080Ti is a safer bet than the 3090.
For extra evenness of seating, it might also be a good idea to partially insert all screws first then gradually torque each opposing one in increments.
Great video. I only have done the front fan swap so far and used the exact same fan as outlined in the video. The strange thing now is I can't adjust the speed of it anymore with ACC? It's stuck at 46% regardless of which method I try. Any thoughts? Thx...
The dell firmware seems pretty lack luster. Not sure if they adjusted the bios or not. Perhaps check for any bios updates on their site for fan control.
For my r12 I tried using one front noctura fan plug it directly to the front fan slot, bio error. Originally tried the double front fan mod noctua with y cable and gave me same bios error. 2000-0511. I heard the corsair fans work without problem... any suggestion?
Thank you! About to dig in as soon as the kids go to sleep. Does it make sense to lightly apply paste on pads?
Hi Alexander, I would avoid placing paste other than metal surfaces. Otherwise it can be a mess to clean up. Maybe just start with the location in the video as a starting point, that might be enough without over-doing it.
@@pounderuptech8353 just finished! Before it was throttling 110c sitting in a open air rig with PL64, core-150, mem +300, fans 100%. Now ambient got even higher but i jacked up mem to 1200, PL68 and fans 80% and junction reads 86!!! I cant thank you enough man! Thank you for taking time creating this!
@@alexanderf8395 that is a great result, nicely done Alexander!
will removing the sticker void the warranty? I did the thermal paste and pad and vramp is still at 104-108C. For some reason, today, I was out for an hour, the temp was at 104C all day before I left. when I get home, temp is at 108C and Nicehash quick miner dashboard said the fan is running at 100% but the OC setting indicate the fan rpm is at 0, and occasionally at 300rpm when I change it to manual lower setting. Any idea how to fix it? This is the only card having the 0 rpm issue, the other 3080 card fan runs at 4000+rpm.
Maybe double check that the pins and connections on the card are correctly seated, including the small connectors on the video card itself.
Can you please tell me on what BIOS version the noctua fan is working without any errors on startup?
Do you know what is the type of spring screw used in the middle around the GPU die? M2 x 7mm?
Thanks for putting this video together! I followed the steps and for some reason my GPU Memory Junction Temp is around 100 degrees, and GPU Temp at 73. My hashrate actually went down from 85 to 73. Any thoughts on why that might be the case? Maybe I put too much or too little of thermal paste? I tried to mimic what you did as closely as possible. Only other difference is I haven't had the chance to replace the front fan, will do that later today when it arrives.
Edit: I removed some of the thermal paste and my hashrates went up to what it was before, but my temps are still the same.
Hey let me know how it goes for you as I'm about to try to do the paste once I get it in the mail
Hi Matt, do you have your fan set to 100% ? The temp really should go much lower than 100 degrees. Are you running the msi afterburner with my suggested settings? If not, that is an important part of the configuration. Make sure to hit the checkmark on the msi afterburner to have the settings active.
@@pounderuptech8353 Sorry about that, I skipped straight to the mod and missed the OC settings. I've added those and now I get an 86 temp for memory junction, very nice improvement!
Only thing I may change is to just clean all of the paste off and redo with a clean application and see what that does, but I'm also comfortable with 86 so don't want to mess with things too much.
@@frenchmatt nice job Matt. Accomplishing 86 degrees is a great result, especially if your machine is in a warm environment. My 2c - replacing the original paste is highly unlikely to make much difference unless the paste is worn from months/years of application. Go with the 86 and enjoy!
@@pounderuptech8353 Thanks, man, really appreciate what you put together for the community! One last question for you, overnight my hashrate dropped from 92 to around 86 (not exactly sure why). One thing I read is to increase the power, which I did to 80%. That gave me a nice boost to 95-96 hashrate, which is awesome, and junction memory temp went up to 90-92. Are there any issues with doing that besides a little higher power consumption and a few degrees higher temps?
i have an aurora r12 black with an rtx 3080 inside. the hdd is very slow and i would like to add an additional m.2 nvme ssd on the available PCI express x16 slot. my concern is whether it affects the cooling ability of my graphic card because its width is very large and after i add this module, half part of one of the fans only have about 2 centimeters of space to pull air to cool the gpu. any suggestion. i bought an input converter that converts m.2 to pci express x16 but its height profile is half the height of the gpu. so it blocks half of the one of the fans and the blocked area only have about 2 centimeter to catch air. i don't know if you get my point. if so, any suggestion would be appreciated. thanks
I did more than that , with pad front and back, paste... You got better result... what was your ambient temp? Nice Rolex
Ambient temp is relatively low, 67 to 68 degrees in a basement. That is probably making the difference.