Better MPG Than the Old V6? 2024 Toyota Tacoma 2.4L Turbo MPG Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2023
- We hit the road in the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road fit with the 2.4L turbocharged four-cylinder iForce engine to see how much fuel it burns.
The ratings are slightly better for the new Tacoma, but is it enough? Watch out full review and let us know your thoughts on the fuel economy of the new Tacoma in the comments below.
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The move to smaller displacement turbo engines really isn't for improved fuel economy, it's primarily to meet emissions requirements. Trucks will never get good mpg because of weight and design. Ford's aluminum body trucks seem to be the best but it's really a marginal difference across the industry.
Finally a person that understands what’s going on.
Which emission is improved on a small turbo engine vs a larger v6? And why does it improve?
@@0HOON0 because forced induction pushes more air into the combustion chamber so you can have a more complete combustion which also makes it cleaner.
@@sgtkurry True enough...which keeps the emissions the same for more power because for some stupid reason, everyone is infatuated with power numbers. A truck will be completely laughed at and negatively reviewed if the power numbers are not "best in class".
Dude I use to get 20mpg on my 4.3 s10. Got 300k before timing chain messed up. My fault though.
I got a feeling mpg is going to tank when guys start putting big tires on these things. Glad to see they went to coils in the back. The ride was one of my biggest beefs with the tacoma.
Really ? I find the ride in the current Tacoma awesome. Maybe that’s because my last truck was a F250 . It was like the axles were bolted straight to the frame . Stiffer than stiff.
My 23 Tacoma trd off road rides like butter.
The coils will be even better I’m sure .. but one downside is they won’t handle a load as well, And I don’t like that radius arm suspension link that now hangs down off the frame rail ahead of the rear wheel . It’s a big loss of ground clearance in a crucial spot for rocks when the going gets rough
@@gordboyko769 it’s a 3/4 ton thing. The springs in the front are stiff to support the engine and the leafs are big for payload. Fords probably the worst. Ram does coils for the 2500 in the back and gm does ifs in the front.
I’m spoiled with the way 1500 trucks ride it’s like night and day from 20 years ago. Full-size trucks riding around like Cadillacs lol.
As far as ground clearance and the radius arm jeeps have had them for years and that doesn’t stop people from wheeling lol. Guys will just lift tacos to the sky and enjoy the extra articulation.
You can still get leaf's on lower models and shocks make a huge difference for ride quality on a leaf sprung vehicle. The last gen TRD pro rides so much better than other tacos because of the fox shocks
@@gordboyko769spot on. So funny no one is talking about this
@@rackemmm1947 Ford is the toughest and strongest truck of them all. F-150 as well, and F-150 rides great.
255 mile range on a full tank is a deal killer.
That's can't be truth... This is beyond pathetic!
and for 2024, they reduced the gas tank size by nearly 2 gallons. @@corbindallasmultipass
@@mustangwlThat's still over 3 and a half hours of driving at 70 mph. Long trip I don't want to go more than 2 without stretching my legs.
My theory is that they're lowering the bar for EVs.
@@SiXiam Sorry, but unless you have medical issues, there's no reason to stop every two hours.
As I said before, I love your content because it’s as close to my conditions in Alaska as anyone can get.
You’re about the only channel doing demos in the snow. 👍🏻
Really been enjoying your Tacoma content! It's great that you got a few days to do the tests you wanted. Everyone that went to California had to follow the Toyota-prescribed events and so the reviews were quite repetitive.
My 2021 Tundra TRD Pro double cab was $48,880. It is hard for me to imagine a regular Tacoma is now closing in on what I pay for my full-size tundra just 2 1/2 years ago.
Also, I don’t care about gas mileage but what I care about is range especially when I am towing, and I usually average around 15-15.5 MPG in city and around 17.5-18 MPG on the highway and I get well over 600 miles on a tank with my 38 gallon tank.
It’s one of the best parts of my truck is I can travel and not have to stop all the time.
255 miles of range is a joke.
What? 49k for a trd pro tundra?
Agree with you on range. My 2018 SR5 TRD DC 4x4 cost $39k, and I got 0% financing from Toyota for 48 months. Even my 1996 F150 XLT has 35 gallons of total tank size, when I combine the front and back.
My old 21 tacoma TRD OR got 280/360 per tank city/hwy. The tank is 21 gallons but on E its about 18 gallons to fill up which leaves 3 gallons as a safety net. I avg 17 mpg overall which is horrible for a midsize
@@BenjaminCorriganI paid $51k out the door with a 100k bumper to bumper warranty on my 21 Lunar Rock Pro Tundra with 1 mile on the odometer. It's pretty absurd how much prices have increased in just the last couple years.
38 gallon tank? I assume Toyota finally pulled their heads out of their asses and put a larger tank in them in later years LOL. I always thought the 26 gallon tank was pretty pathetic for what Toyota was pretending to be a 1/2 ton truck built for work and towing...should have had a 30+ gallon tank all along.
I have the 5.7 L V8 with a supercharger. I’ve gone over 500 miles per tank granted it’s 38 gallons but I still get 13.5 to 14.5 MPG and that’s doing 80 mph most of the time. So I’m definitely not impressed with that little four banger. Long live the past…
Damn. I get like 23mpg in the 23 V6 Tacoma. I bought it to avoid the new 4 cylinder turbo
@@270eman LOL, he's driving a Tundra, he left that small bit of important information out...adding a supercharger really cuts the fuel economy in them LOL. My 08 5.7L V8 4x4 Tundra would get around 20mpg on the highway but after about 70mph that number would drastically start going down....14-15mpg was about the worst fuel economy I'd get and that was just in town....now, a few winters ago we had about 2 feet of snow and temps below zero for about a month straight....truck was in 4WD the whole month and...well I was lucky to see 10mpg LOL. I bought a truck to do truck things, fuel economy isn't important at that point, having the power and reliability is a heck of a lot more important. Someone buying a truck to use as an economy family sedan has rocks for brains to begin with...and this is where the problem is with a lot of truck buyers...they really just need a car, but they gotta show off to their friends so they buy the biggest most expensive truck as a status symbol instead of buying what they really need. Then they whine that their 1 ton dually crew cab truck is getting 10mpg on their trips to the mall and Walmart LOL.
@@wildbill23c Ohh I thought he was talking about the 5.7 hemi. 😂 Yeah the 5.7 tundra gas mileage is horrible but that truck is a beast.
@@costidisa That is not the comment we deserve, but boy is that the comment we needed!
I used to say the same thing, but nobody listened so i stopped bringing it up.
People act like because it will take the manufacturers some effort to make a full size pickup run 30 mpg that no one should try it, even the Prius' have stagnated on fuel economy the last couple generations, but these car companies demand more money for every generation of car though.
@@costidisa I'd be on board if the government wasn't involved. We're pushing new technology on vehicles that grow in size and weight every year due to federal "good intentions". Imagine a 1995 sized Tacoma with a hybrid engine. Can't happen, because government "emissions algorithm".
The V6 engine, Toyota makes is one of the best engines ever made from any manufacturer. This four-cylinder turbo will never replace the V6. The V-6 typically would go 250 or 350,000 miles. This new turbo will never ever come anywhere near that
My 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 5 speed with the 22re engine and currently has 285k miles on it, no leaks or burning oil... sitting on 35's with 5:29 gearing and using pure gasoline 89 octane, no E10... 23mpg. and when using E10 fuel, it got 17mpg.
400 miles on a full tank of 17.5 gallons of GASOLINE.
I had a 1987 toyota pick up in 4x4 with the 22R motor and I would get about 26 mpg on the freeway.
I still think they would have been better keeping the 3.5 and just updated it with this 8 speed trans and lower gearing. The SR5 with front air dam and lighter 245/75r16 tires consistently got +25 mpg if u tried. I get 15-16mpg towing a 16ft boat.
They should have put the 4.0 from the 4 Runner and put the 4runner transmission or like you said the 8 speed.
We had the 3.5L in a Lexus for a few years. Probably the best engine i've ever owned. Silky smooth and plenty of power...also would get 30mpg all day long at 80mph.
@@LucasLeCompteMusicthe 3.5 with a better tune and the 8 speed or a 10 speed is all it needed.
Not sure a transmission with more gears would substantially help fuel economy, especially on the highway where it is really just the taller couple of gears paired with the final drive that will be influencing where the vehicle sits in terms of rpm. And on that note, I’m not sure reducing the highway rpm would benefit too much if you went with a taller rear and, as I feel after driving a couple of models that they’d constantly be downshifting to get into the meat of the torque curve which is relatively high in the rpm range.
@@ALMX5DP adding gears can help you keep the motor in the sweet spot for acceleration without having to lug the motor or over revving. Also adding a more powerful tune on the 3.5 helps it save gas. I always wanted a Tacoma with a v8 from Toyota. Looks like the only way that will happen is doing it myself lol.
Great video as always. Cools to see reviews from the same city I’m from. I knew exactly where you were on your test loop. Keep up the good work pal.
Nice video. I like your mixed-use test with enough distance to seem valid.
I used to own a 2014 Tacoma with the TRD trim and equiped with the 4.0 li V6. I could consistently get 10.6 li per 100 kilometre (25 mpg). It's interesting that my 4.0 li V6 gave better fuel economy than the new turbo 4 cyclinder does.
I’ve gotten 20mpg in my 03 taco, and it’s on 33s but around town it’s about 15 mpg with the 3.4 v6
Beat me to it. My 13 TRD sport would support that mpg number with the old 4.0. I consider it thirsty to be honest. Kinda hard to believe that 4 cyl turbo cant be better. I had a Chevy full size rental for a week with their turbo 4 and it would do 27 mpg non hwys with ease.
@@darrendesautels5871 The 4.0 V6 was indeed a thirsty beast. I think part of the problem is that with the V6 Toyota had an engine that was better suited to move the weight of a Tacoma. I suspect, even with a turbo, the 4 cyl has to work harder to do it.
yea no there's no way thats converted right, nobody ever got 25mpg from the 4.0
@@squidinkRC If you pin ther go fast peddal to the floor then no, you're not going to get 25 mpg. However, if you drive responsibily with an eye to getting the best gas mileage possible then yes, it is possible to get 25 mpg. I can only speak to my experience with my Tacoma, and I could squeeze out 25 mpg pretty consistently.
I honestly don't mind the "trucky" ride quality of older tacos, and my 2010 taco with the 4.0 and a 6 speed stick, I get around 300 miles per tank, and I fill up at a quarter tank left. Everything I keep hearing about the new tacos doesn't seem all that worth it.
I just think it’s bs with the turbo 4 cylinders. Good video l. Love all the testing you guys do with all the trucks.
The more I learn about the 4th gen Tacoma. The more it makes me happy I have a 3rd gen ❤ 🤭
Until you realize you have the only Toyota truck with a car motor.
yOUr tRuCk hAS A caR moTEr DERP DERP. What the hell does that even mean?😂🤣
@@scottvamp that’s bcos you don’t know cars.
And I’m glad a have a 2nd gen!!!
@@alexdesamsonow822 show off!!!
To me it comes down to whether the hybrid will have improved efficiency, or just more torque/power like the strategy employed with the Tundra. With both, it'd be nice if the computer could have an eco setting that sacrifices power for substantially improved efficiency. If the non-hybrid could have gotten 25 mpg, and the hybrid 30 mpg, it would have been a real winner. As is, full size options start looking a lot more attractive, especially when a low-optioned full size will be similar in price. Those markups are going to be gross for the Tacoma.
Sorry but the Hybrid system is made for power not fuel efficiency with the added weight of the battery you actually get worse MPGs. This has already been proven on the new Tundra TFL just did a video on it.
@@scott8238, well the new Landcruiser is estimated to net 27 mpg, so a man can dream. My AWD hybrid midsize SUV can get 37 mpg, which granted isn't a body on frame truck, but still, surely someone can design an off-road worthy 4wd hybrid midsize or actual compact truck that can average at least 27, ideally 30. Ford not bringing the new ranger hybrid to the U.S. is excruciatingly annoying. Similarly annoying is them not offering the Maverick hybrid in AWD.
@@colbybrady2187 Supposedly we will be getting the Ranger plugin hybrid in 25. Maverick hybrid in AWD should be coming then too. I'd consider trading in my current hybrid mave for AWD but so far have not needed AWD. If the Ranger PHEV can get 30-40 miles on pure EV that's going to be a compelling choice since I would never have to use gas on my daily.
And if it get 30 mpg you're looking at a 600ish mile range 👀
@scott8238 the Tacoma is half the weight and we don't even know if it's the same battery for sure
I have a '21 trd off road, rear leafs were smooth but so soft, I swapped out the leaf pack. I don't understand about the "harshness" comments.
As for gas consumption, Toyota missed another opportunity; smaller tank? Similar mileage as my gen 3?
No diesel option.
Good to hear mpg is right on with this, especially since you tested it in winter weather.
Well done. Thank you for this review.
My 2021 TRD Sport 3.5 does an easy 25 mpg on the interstate. I have a heavy fiberglass ARE work topper with probably no less than 200 pounds of tools in the box and average 18-19 mpg. My first Toyota truck was a 92 4 cylinder 5 speed and it got 30 mpg consistently. Auto manufacturers are going backwards in fuel economy. I was recently in Ireland and my rental was a Kia Sportage with a green diesel that puts out less emissions than a Tesla and got 50 mpg and the US politicians won’t let it come here because it’s too fuel efficient
Bought a ‘23 Taco last night. I’d rather have proven reliability and a lower price tag than a little better mpg.
great video as always boys!
Excellent Episode as always!!! 😁
Toyota said they’re not going after MPG, but rather power and torque. I imagine the hybrid could be a little bit better. Kinda surprised they shrunk down the fuel tank
If they really wanted to go after power, they should have just added the turbos to the V6 and added the 8 speed tranny. Toyota is clearly going for the "Just Stop Oil" maniacs. The same thing VW did back in 2009-2014 and we all saw how that scandal ended.
They said this is the bridge to electric vehicles. It makes sense they will make it perform mediocre by keeping you in with the tech and features because they understand the majority of the public likes to show off instead of buying something that will last multiple decades.
Given the choice, most Tacoma buyers wouldn't have traded fuel range and long term durability in return for a bit more power.
@@0HOON0 exactly. 3.5 owners who wanted more power went to a tundra v8 ir a Colorado diesel. But that’s today’s world. They trap you with the fancy new tech and never reveal the potential risk of failure with all that new shit added. Makes it more expensive to repair, maintain and replace. The more years go by. The more I want a 1980s or 90s landcruiser
Heeeeelllloooooo NISSAN Frontier!!!!
I love the new Tacoma but to get me to switch from my 5.0 F150 (growl is so awesome) I was hoping for the new Tacoma to get better fuel economy. If the hybrid system mimics the Tundra the new hybrid will simply add some power and MPG will stay around 20.
I realize your MPG test was done in cooler weather, so it may improve a little but I can hit 20 currently on a regular basis during road trips and drive over 600 miles on a fill up.
very correct and the added weight of the batteries and hybrid system the Mpgs will be worse.
I would have thought with the 4cyl hybird would get great milage like the highlander does
Good job with real world testing. Don't forget to re do the test in summer though, winter mixed fuel is worse and we up here in the north anyways. Will always see worse MPG (-1 to -2 mpg).
Fwiw my 2016 MT Taco gets that mileage each day on way to work. 11.5-12.5 per 100 km.
Thanks to some influence you guys I have a 2022 ZR2 with a 6.2 engine. Fuel economy is only slightly different than what you are reporting here. Best I ever saw over a 40 km stretch was in the high 8s for litres per 100km but there would have been a wind advantage at play somewhat. Often see it in the 11s and 12s on the highway. Also have a 2005 Tacoma 4x4 and it always uses more fuel than the ZR2 no matter what the conditions are.
The dual variable valve timing for the 4.0L toyota didn't come out to 07 if i remember which added 30hp and 1-2mpg gain
I’ll keep my 3rd gen. Got an 18 sport fully loaded w 107,000 on it. Been full bolt on and tuned since almost day one. Makes around 330hp at the crank and runs the quarter high 13s. Gets 21-23 consistently on the highway. Usually can do almost 500 miles a tank. I beat the crap out of this truck and not one issue. Couldn’t be happier.
It probably would fail an emissions test though.
Hey man, thanks for all the great videos, love the channel. I gotta say I was excited to see the fuel mileage for the new Tacoma and holy hell I was let down, they get the exact same mileage as I do with my 3.5l V6. I love all the features on the new ones but the gas mileage was the big one, and thats not even towing anything, maybe it will be worse when towing....
I think I'll keep my tried true v6 and see how reliable the turbo 4cyl turns out to be, in my eyes it's just something else to go wrong along with all the "safety" stuff they pile into the cars these days which drives the price up... $50k starting is insane.
so true.....i also look for used tacomas that have a v6 to increase in value considering the six cylinder is no longer available.
@@billw8476 Yeah you are probably right, just like the V8 Tundra's have increased in value a bit too.
Thanks for the video! Did you have start-stop on during the test? And what were the tire pressures?
Way more available torque while maintaining fuel economy seems alright to me. And while I'm not enthralled with twin turbo V6 engines, I love the idea of a turbo inline 4. Great small package that should be easy to maintain and service should you need.
THIS lil 4 banger should get 4mpg better than the v6.
@@billw8476 if it were sized and designed for fuel economy only sure. But being way more torquey I’m not disappointed if it’s in the same ballpark.
Until the turbo blows up......
@@tomcharbonneau9788 semi trucks seem to think they are fine.
Great Video, so switching from V6 to i4 turbo with same BHP that request more maintenance , less range and eating the same amount of gas and won't last as much as the old V6 ... hmm is it worth it ?
Can u do a test hauling also ? wonder how much then it will eat vs V6 :)
you could say the same thing with the old iron block push rod v8 and going to a aluminum OHV varaible valve timing v6 in the tacoma. my 95 f150 5.0L only makes 190hp
Those are the exact fuel economy numbers I get for my 2019 Tundra 1794 CrewMax with the 5.7v8 - same driving conditions and speeds. But, my numbers are on summer blend 87 octane gas with 10% ethanol content. Maybe this test is like our winter blend fuels.
It won't change much at all even with "summer" fuel....what they don't bother to show is how long they let a vehicle sit and warm up that eats up a lot of fuel too, but when you live in a cold climate you have no choice, unless you want to run over everything because all the windows are iced up LOL.
But, yep, I'd average around 18mpg mixed city/highway with my 08 Tundra...occasionally I'd hit 20mpg on long trips out of town/state, but usually 19 was the max....around town where I live the nonsense 20mph speed limits really chews up the fuel so I'd usually see around 14mpg in town.
Either my i4 Camry needs a tune up, or I drive it a little too hard, but this new Tacoma is averaging better fuel mileage than my car. I don't see why people are complaining. Not to mention it's still more power compared to previous gen. More power for your buck.
I'm very happy with my 2023 TRD Off-Road purchase last March.
I am in a perfect state with my 23' Lunar Rock and plan on sticking with it for the long run. I am curious about the durability of this 2.4L 4-cylinder pulling all that weight
I don't think I'm selling my 21 anytime soon. I'd much rather have a V6
Nice truck!! Awesome review Steve!! The sad part is that my 23 Nissan Titan pro-4x gets better mpg!!
My 22 RAM 1500 Limited with the HEMI gets about the same MPGs as this TACO? I will take the comfort of the full size truck over a midsize every time.
I know a 2021 Chev Silverado with the 2.7 turbo which for what i do was perfect and being a full size gets better than this new Tacoma? So all this tech and it gets worse than its previous generation.
Sadly the TItan is being discontinued.
@@wildbill23c
It's not, in 2025 Nissan is putting a detuned GTR motor in the Titan!!
I’m thinking about a new Tacoma down the road (my first ever). This was an informative video on fuel economy.
Hey where in ontario are u? I'm in ptbo thought u were out west lol. Just got our 23 white off road!!! Love it. Also run premium in it as we only drive 11 000 to 13 000 km per years. When do u recommend first oil change? I was thinking 1500 km.
Dang, I averaged 21.2 mpg at the pump over 109,000 miles with my 2016 TRD OR… ShrinkFlation is hitting this truck hard!
I want to see a video with this new Tacoma and a Frontier (v6 vs 4cyl turbo) for a real new school vs old school comparison.
Or they could just compare it to a gen 3 TRD off road or pro and you get to see if the new on is even worth it that way. I’m a current gen 3 owner and I love mine. I would love the new one but that dam 2.4 is just not for me. I don’t like hybrid technology either. More shit to go wrong. I was hoping the land cruiser would get a diesel but that’s only for Europe. We won’t get the diesel in America, even tho there is plenty of diesel here compared to the UK.
It’s hilarious that Nissan just released that thing a couple years ago. It’s already terribly outdated. But some guys like old school
The V6 gets horrible gas mileage on the highway. You can watch the needle drop as you go down the road. How do I know, cause i have a Frontier.
@@IamSooConstipateda natural v6 will never be outdated. 😂
I get around 21mpg avg in my 22 TRD Sport 6MT. Tire pressures can have a big effect as well as weather, wind, etc...
Pro and trail hunter will be 75++ in Canada. Pro was always 13k more than premium trims and then add the hybrid.
The only issue i have with my 3rd gen is fuel economy and its the one thing they never improved upon. I do like the Access Cab doors too, think that will be an issue on this latest gen. Buy 4 doors or dont buy at all.
You are correct, why the hell can't they improve on the fuel economy especially with the 4 banger . I'll probably just keep my tried and true 4.0L. 2005
@@MW-bz1qe it has 40lb ft more touque at a much lower rpm over the 05-06 4.0L. If you tow at all that will make a huge difference and performance also if you drive at high altitude NA engines lose 3.5% every 1000 feet
Makes me feel better about my 2019 Tacoma TRD off-road I averaged 20 to 20.5 mi per gallon and I still have my 20 gallon gas tank and I'll keep my leaf springs because I know I'm not driving a Cadillac I prefer the truck feel.
And you are sitting on the floor while doing it🤣 at least the new one has a actual seat
@@atg1338stop trolling 🤣🤣
@@atg1338 I'm a short dude with back problems it feels fine to me. 😂
I've got a 2023 sport, stock all around. I average 19 to 22 mixed city and highway. I've seen 26 out of it on the highway. I also owned a 2011 4.0 with a 2.5 inch lift 32's bumpers winch and skids. I used to average 15 16 around town 18 highway.
Buddy has a 17-20 v6 6sp 4 door taco; bed full of gear, 3 guys and extras in the cab driving 70-90 aggressively through traffic 5 hours across TN and truck said 18 or a little better. I got to drive it and really liked the high floor, made it feel kinda like a car. I thought the 6 speed was also really nice.
I suppose I expected a bit better also. Especially considering the lower speeds that you drove. My 15 Tacoma pretty much matches that in similar driving conditions and that’s with the 4.0 and 5 speed auto. Heck, most of the US is doing 75mph nowadays at a minimum.
Yep and they get 40K road deaths every year. You can’t fix stupid!
@@marcpikas2859Does that contribute to speeding? I doubt it.
@@marcpikas2859 I’m not tracking. What does going that fast have to do with road deaths? The vast majority is cell phone use and a lack of paying attention. Heck some large cities you’re in more danger if you don’t go with the flow of traffic and choose to go slow.
@@cpftank09 yep like a bunch of lemmings heading for the cliff…
@@marcpikas2859 how’s that? Because we’re free to do that? Heck, in South Dakota and Texas are some of the lowest fatality states yet they have interstates with an 80mph posted speed limit. It’s not like people are trying to go that fast in bad conditions.
Yeah better until you tow something then it's more than likely worse than the v6
Under boost it will be thirsty
Because everyone buys a mid size to tow
Create information greetings from California my V66 feet 2022 averages 23 miles per gallon highway in town and that’s using it thanks for the video merry Christmas🎉
My 2023 Tacoma Off Road V6 consistently gets 20 MPG and on a log trim driving on the interstates at 70-75 MPH it showed 23 - 25 plus MPG depending on segment driven between stops.
It's a hard pass for me. 60 to 70k for a Tacoma which likely suffers from Toyota's subscription service. I'll stick with my 2015 Ram 1500. While it won't match the Tacomas fuel mileage, it's reliable and paid for. Great video.
Same here fellow Ram owner. Aside from normal wear and tear on my Ram 1500, it has been pretty reliable :)
and the your RAM doesn't have a puny 18.2 gallon tank lol. Midsize cars have that size fuel tank. Here in Europe the diesel Mercedes E class can come with an 18.5 gallon tank, much much better range. I don't understand Toyota, 18.2 gallons in a truck.
Ram 1500...reliable. LMAO. Alrighty than. Sucker born every day.
@@FlyNavy1271 Owner it since new, over 8 years no problems just normal wear and tear. I'd but another. Plus all my options work without a monthly subscription and it didn't cost me 60k
@@simontallboy209I'm currently driving a 2021 Tacoma Sport XP. All my options work I've never paid a subscription and I paid nowhere near 60k either. The only difference is I don't own a truck made by a company known for substandard quality control and the absolute love of every auto repair shop on earth. Being the son of a father who own an auto repair business I am thankful for the garbage Chrysler produces as it's added quite a bit of money to my dads business.
No locked fuel door again? Wth
Probably locked in the hybrid like in the Tundra.
I'm maintaining 21.5 mpg in my 2023 V6 4x4 double cab SR Tacoma with canopy, stock 16" wheels and tires, on roughly 90% highway driving, very little in the way of hills and mostly straight highways. I do baby it. Hope this helps someone one way or another. 😁
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video and a six cylinder engine is only really needed for towing and here in Canada a four cylinder is more fuel efficient, especially when our gasoline prices are higher than the United States 🇺🇸
except they just proved it doesnt even get better mpg than the turbo. And they typically arent cuz u have to get into the boost to go anywhere.
I get 12.5 L/100 to 13.5 L/100 with my 20 Tundra. So, this turbo 4 is marginally better on fuel. This thing will be a pig on gas towing any good size RV.
Yeah because people buy a tacoma to tow🤣🤣
@@atg1338troller 🤣🤣
Tacomas shouldn't be towing an RV (at least any RV beyond 17 feet in length).
@@workoutlui saying the truth is trolling? You must be a maga wacko with the trolling bull💩
I can’t believe they shrunk the fuel tank. That was one of my biggest gripes is range - Especially when towing
Mid 60-70,000 trucks? I have a very sneaking suspicion by the time dealers get their hands on the Pro it'll be creeping towards 80k. I'm very excited to see that pricing, as I was dead on with the gas model predictions. Hopefully I'm sitting in my TRD Sport 6M when they're released 😂
I think with how most people drive, real world MPG will be worse with the new Taco. I had a 2017 and hated the engine/trans combination, so at least the new engine/trans pairing will drive better. But when drivers start getting into some boost the MPG will dive. And the fuel tank being quite a bit smaller will see people really hating the range these get.
Getting into some boost? Umm, its a heavy truck with a small car sized engine, its always needing boost to get out of its own way no matter how you drive these tiny turbo engine equipped vehicles you are always needing boost, and economy plain sucks in them.
@@wildbill23c you make up from the low end torque in these turbo engines with 300lb feet of torque, it is more than many 1 ton trucks had in the 90s and the tacoma is not much smaller than them either minus the dually versions
That's pretty sad MPGs especially now with a smaller fuel tank. The Hybrid system won't be any better with the added weight of the system.
I am averaging 23.2 miles per gallon in my 2024 Tacoma Sport so far. Just under 2000 miles using premium fuel.
Finally! I get 19-20 mpg average on my 2023
Is the gas tank comparatively really small? Expected range of only 411 km seems a bit limited to me. Filling up several times a week would be a real pain! Great video gents!
My 20 Tundra has 140 litres. Long road trips I have 1000 plus kilometres of range.
Its worse than some EVs.
That's a disappointment. So why the hell are we fed a 4cylinder if the mpgs are the same. And 50k starting price? 🤬 does toyota think their customers are stupid or what?
The answer is yes because stupid people keep overpaying
Wish all these mid-size would just go with 20+ gallon tanks. There must be some EPA reason they are going for 18 gallons. Same thing with my Ranger. Its not a crossover guys, 22-24 gallons would be nice.
Not going to lie, I expected a little better. I average about that in my 2014 Explorer 3.5L Ecoboost at 180k miles. As someone looking to purchase a new vehicle (leaning toward mid size truck) in the spring, I was looking at my first Toyota.
the hybrids will be out in spring. might be worth looking into then
Most people are forgetting that while yes the new engine is smaller and more efficient it is also more powerful than the V6. We wanted more power and better MPG right?.... Not really possible when you consider all the factors ie. weight and so on. So we should be happy we get more power and at least a tiny bit better MPG.
they said they stuffed the 4cyl in everything due to cafe regulations but the MPG is the same, you've been lied to and sold a tacoma with a highlander engine
Why don't they make bigger fuel tanks for midsized trucks?
Dude never understood this.
Fewer people tow with them?
I had a 2020 F150 with the 5.0 and it got about 21 MPG on the highway and 18 city. I traded it for a 2023 Tundra 3.5 and it got 19-20 MPG on the highway and 15-16 in the city. It didn't last long in my driveway and now I have a different small displacement turbo and am happy. My new 2023 Chevy 3.0 Duramax got 31.1 MPG this past weekend on the highway and regularly gets 25-26 in the city. Even with the price of diesel fuel costing more (for no reason), I still come out ahead with the 3.0. If I come out of the diesel anytime soon, it'll be to get another 5.0 from Ford. I think those are the 2 best trucks right now (3.0 Duramax Chevy and 5.0 F150).
Hey Steve….how would you compare the ride and seating position with this new taco vs. the 4runner
Well that is a bit disappointing. I can squeeze out 18 mpg city and 23 mpg highway in my Ram 1500 Classic Hemi. Would’ve expected the tacoma to get into the mid-20s.
Very dissapointing indeed. Keep the Ram.
My 09 Tacoma two wheel drive, 2.7 Access cab 21 to 25 miles per gallon religiously for 145,000 miles
Awesome video! Oof, damn Toyota, this is like when I had my FJ (lifted) getting 225 miles a tank. Now I have a Colorado ZR2 diesel and get around 600 a tank, which is amazing. Maybe the I-Force Max will be better, but judging by the Tundra results it won't.
Can’t wait for the new ranger videos to compare to the Tacoma. One of them will be my next vehicle.
I have a 2017 Sierra 6.2L 4WD. Just under 18 in town with reasonable driving. On the highway, I averaged a calculated 22.6 mpg with the cruise set at 75 mph going from Nashville to Dallas. The only negatives, and they’re big ones: premium fuel required and the sketchy AFM lifters.
I keep thinking about replacing the truck, but the new ones just don’t justify the cost.
This is why i sold my 17 tacoma trd 4x4. I was average around 15 mpg with a bit bigger tires and a small lift, plus no power down low. Sold it for a duramax now i got power for days with about the same mpg
You have the most content on these new Toyotas. Must be killing TFL. Gas tank is pretty small.
Once people add bigger tires, tent, topper, and other weight...I bet it's similar to the current model OR slightly better by 1-2mpg (like you stated in the video)
Every trim is overpriced by about $10K.
😀 expecting 58MPG combine!
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There seems to be some pretty decent gains on the aftermarket front around fuel economy and power for the forced induction displacements so there may be some options there. Toyota may have been able to eek out better numbers but didn't for whatever reason, whether to keep from undermining sales from the iforce max trucks or to leave wiggle room for reliability or future model year stat bumps in economy or power.
My 17 trd offroad crew cab 6ft bed gets 18mpg combined with a range of just over 300 miles.
full tank 255 miles only??? It's a huge no to this NEW Taco. What a shame. less than a Toyota Yaris 🤣
😂😂😂
Lol pathetic
Or 411 km, my 17 Taco is at about 630 km after I fill.
That’s given his last average of 15.9 if you do a lot of highway driving, both the numbers would change.
My f 250 does that in town mileage
It really has nothing to do with MPG, The EPA aka Bidenomics is cracking down on emissions forcing manufacturers using 4 cylinder turbos. Let us all pray that Trump gets back in office next year and we will have our V6 and V8 back again!
👏👏👏 we can only pray that dementia Joe doesn’t get reelected!!!!!! otherwise I don’t think it’s really gonna matter cause none of us are going to be driving after that term unless you want an EV piece of shit
My 2022 Tacoma SR5 3.5L V6 (2 wheel drive), gets 19.5 city/24.5 highway consistently.
That fuel tank is shockingly low. This is what some midsize cars have. Unacceptable for a truck.
So....we all agree that a turbo V6 would've been a better choice if they just had to go the turbo route?. I'll be keeping my 3.5 nature killer thanks
I like that You provide consumption in liter per 100km. Greetings from Poland
Thank you! Cheers!
Hello from Alberta My 2018 5.7 Tundra gets 18mpg all day on hwy and some times 20
The adaptive cruise control, is it stop/go or still cancel at below 40km/h?
Glad I got my 2023
All that changed is manufacturing cost went down and prices went up.
The move to smaller turbo engines is almost exclusively for emissions reasons, not for fuel mileage. Especially regarding NOx emissions. The Tacoma with the manual has pretty bad rev hang, and the chief engineer for Tacoma said they had to tune the engine that way purely for emissions reasons.
Are you serious? Omg.
Buying a brand new truck and then you have to deal with that until the warranty is up then get it tuned out??
To those who don’t know, the only real reason automotive manufacturers are going to small turbo engines is cost. It’s obviously cheaper to make a smaller engine with a junk turbo. They increase power, decrease fuel economy, and destroy reliability. Man, what a time in which we live.
In my brand new 23 Tacoma TRDOR premium I’ve never seen the 11.8km/100km like the sticker claims for highway. Highway driving I’m always way more fuel and I don’t gas it hard. Truck always seems to downshift at the slightest incline which makes it worse. I get much better fuel economy around town driving which Toyota claims should be more do the stop and go nature of in town driving. The fact that you’re getting 11.8 after all that in sub zero temps is pretty decent.
@Truck King: How do we get one of those TK beanies you are wearing?
Best I got in my 2020 Colorado Z71 V^6 hwy miles was 8.5 per 100 k... average 9.8...(summer) city in winter 14-15
Same with the ecoboost Fords. Actually my 2013 3.5 EB did more fuel than my 18 5.7 Hemi, which is an engine no longer allowed due to emissions.
I have a 23 v6. . . I think its fantastic. I hate everything I’m seeing here with the next gen. From the horrible blocky toy-like dash and computer display to the smaller gas tank, reduced range, higher price, and the shark-like front end I wouldn’t even consider this next Tacoma. What I love about my 3 gen truck is its a truck and still reasonably old school. I don’t want any part of the futuristic design trend of EV’s and I DEFINITELY want real gauges like on my 3rd gen. The tech in the 3rd gen is unobtrusive and utilitarian, which is the ideal.
The reduced towing is due to the rear suspension change most likely. leaf springs are harsher, but better for towing.