Spoiler: just clarifying confusion on the baby alien and the mom. When she pulls goo from under her shirt it is because her body is producing nutrients for the alien like breast milk. The alien doesn’t eat her but instead breast feeds from her to death.
Thanks for clarifying that. I felt something really dark and sinister happened there but i just couldnt put my finger on what exactly. This makes sense now - thanks.
and the "alien essence" you're talking about is the black goo from prometheus. Rook says "we discovered a non neutonian fluid inside the DNA of the Xeno" or whatever... they extracted the black goo from prometheus. they even show the little urn storage unit for a few seconds on a hologram.
They also explain why they'd risk going to a Weyland-Yutani facility in order to escape the station. There's at least a *possibility* they could escape a facility, or just do what they did and disable the remote piloting in the ship once they're launched. None of them can pilot the ship to take off, so they need Rook to remotely pilot for the ship in order to take off. And their other choice is to not go to the facility, and crash into the rings of the planet and die with zero possibility of escape. Because there are no other ships, there are no other pilots, and the station is doomed to crash (first in ~36 hours, then in ~40 minutes and counting). Or potentially be torn apart by Xenomorphs before that happens.
@@saintcynicism2654 You just made me realize.. How is she supposed to be able to pilot the ship then? She's the only one left and she put him in the pod and she does the log while they're on their way to Yvaga or wherever. She's not even a pilot.
@drownthepoor The short answer is she doesn't, they set the ship to autopilot for Yvaga III and she goes into cryosleep. They'll deal with what comes after that once they're in the system, but if I had to guess she's counting on the ship being found adrift and rescued that way.
34:18 My guys, Prometheus is a prequel.. its set 30 years before Alien, and Covenant is 10 years after that. Wyland is well and truly dead at this point
Did y'all not see Aliens? That's been a thing for a while. Vasquez uses a "Smart Gun" which is that aim assisted cannon she carries. Romulus just applied the concept to the pulse rifle.
@@CamelCase-gz2ti I've seen people question this saying it was stupid and it's quite hilarious because either they haven't paid attention to these movies or they're just stupid and desperately want to hate on it. There's also those auto-turrets they use, why WOULDN'T they have tech like this...
^ this. Weyland Utani found the Alien from the first movie and used it to create more face huggers and synthesise the black goo to forcefully kick start evolution in humanity so that they can survive expanding throughout the universe. That’s why the pregnant girl who injects herself gives birth to the weird Humans/Engineer/Xenomorph hybrid, because it’s a mixture of all 3
Exactly I felt a sense of satisfaction seeing as Prometheus is a Prequel. The baby that came out this time was more Human like due to science. Less alien and more human. In say the year 2500 they may come out like us but superhuman. That should be the next movie. At least it gives us somewhere new to go.
@@TheFallofTheElevenththanks for clearing up an issue I had with the whole newborn birth 🙏🏻🙌🏼 was it explained in this movie where/how they obtained the black goo?
@@SeekingGodsWillas much as the movie didn’t work for me as a whole and the bad outweighed the good I did find this plot point interesting - Weyland researching the Alien life form to further human space exploration and survival and not just the overused bio weapons use 🙏🏻🙌🏼
@@SJK-ROW-K happy to help! yes it was explained. At the beginning of the movie they find that giant rock like object floating in space that the Xenomorph embedded itself in. Weyland took the object and the Xeno and used its DNA and biology to synthesise and create their own version of the black goo. Since the Xenomorphs were created by David in Alien: Covenant with his experiments on the black goo it makes sense that every Xenomorph carries the genetic template for the black goo itself.
Well it wasn't a Praetorian lol whichever lol just the baby to full killing machine time was incredibly fast but hey it worked 🤷😂@@sleepingconscious6110
@@MattRamn They got the goo from these facehuggers. While the exact process was never laid out, it's implied the original facehugger implant a form of egg into the host. The one's in this film however use a form of black goo, and none are seen inside eggs, only artificial storage pouches. I'm pretty sure the implication is that they found david and that's how they got them. The end of covenant has him with facehuggers in transparent containers... we only see two, but he could have had more, or made more after reaching the colony he was headed too.
33:12 Peter Weyland's death was reported as May 5, 2089, but in reality he was in cryo-stasis until the events of Prometheus. Prometheus takes place in December of 2093 (Janek tells Meredith Vickers that it's Christmas shortly after they arrive at LV-223), where Peter Weyland comes out of cryo-stasis and gets killed by an Engineer. Alien: Covenant takes place in 2104 Alien takes place in 2122 Alien: Romulus takes place in 2142, which is 37 years prior to the events of Aliens. So, yes. Peter Weyland has been dead (as seen in Prometheus) for 49 years by the time we get to Alien: Romulus.
But how long has the space station been operational? 20 years seems like a lot but space is big. For Weyland to get the news of the initial Alien event to then go and build a space station, research and synthesis a formula. Just thinking about the space station alone has a ton of plot holes not even taking the timeline into consideration.
@@bumwhistler6304 Two assumptions made here could be incorrect. The first being that the company commissioned the station for the xenomorph research instead of that just being an existing research station that was adapted for use, the second is that you are assuming the company wasn't prepared but they are the ones who forced the situation to happen, they knew something important was on that planet so it stands to reason they had an idea of what it was before then.
@MasterDeroy holy shit. Your comment abt time made me think of something. This makes sense now of why the engineer ripped David apart in prometheus. The engineers are humans way in the future because weyland yutani figured it out on making humans evolve. Notice how the engineers suits have markings like the xenos and they can withstand space travel, Notice how the offspring looks like an engineer. Now put it all together. It's a loop. Humans created them when David dropped the goo on that 'engineer' planet in covenant. Some may have survived, fast forward years for evolution. weyland space travels and time warps and bends in on itself, prometheus happens, the engineer remembers David, rips his head off, then tries to set off to earth on a revenge mission, to drop the goo on earth. Or not even revenge, they want earth to be like them and get rid of the need for androids because of the history that they know. They were bending space. If done right, the time travel can be introduced but they would have to really explain time warping and how it works, make it believable.
24:17 you guys must have got up to pee… A LOT. All the plot holes you talked about were explained. Or they were because of your misunderstanding like when you said Weyland was alive. He dies in Prometheus which takes place the earliest of all the movies. The black goo created all the aliens and they reverse engineered it genetically in the lab. They even played the Prometheus theme and called it “the flame of Prometheus” to make sure no one would miss it. They made clear the reason they were the only ones who could scavenge the ship. The probe ship had recovered the adrift alien and began experimenting in the last year and a beacon was sent immediately to Weyland Utani once the station was compromised. The Rook synth said the response team was still 6 months away cuz space travel (and the local planet didn’t have the capabilities) and because their orbit was compromised they were the only hope to retrieve the goo or alien dna off the station. Also It literally stated on the screen in text the planet had 0 days of sunlight per year and I don’t know maybe they wanted off the planet because they were basically slaves? All that said it’s an 8 I agree with it and you guys are wrong about Prometheus. It’s a solid movie.
See ppl be like “why do movies dumb it down for us” Well you get reviewers and ppl like this who misunderstand stuff that happened and then tell their viewers that there are plot holes or something that doesn’t make sense and it runs for years
Even in the beginning when she is going to get released from her contract you hear over the speaker system they are basically slaves, on a dark planet, I enjoyed needing to actually pay attention the background, not be bottle fed everything
One thing I don't understand is how she's piloting the ship to Yvaga when she's not a pilot. Oh and they were going to put her in the mines. People are constantly dying of novel viruses including her parents, and so another 6 years was basically a death sentence. And I think Andy gave her the gun because it falls within a compromise of his two directives: The goo has to leave the station with them ALIVE, but also his 2nd was still to protect her. I didn't think Alien Resurrection was as bad as everyone says. I didn't like Prometheus or Covenant. The fact it's so far back in time, and they have hologram-projection displays etc. And then in Covenant they're carrying actual AR-15's which is even more ridiculous. They're way ahead of the tech of the Nostromo, and yet using firearms designed in 1962? I hate the lore of the Engineers and the black goo, and I think they created humans too? It was too changing of the fundamentals, and I hate when you take an old property and write new canon. Alien was supposed to be like Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween. A stand-alone horror film, and part of what's great about it is how truly alien the Xenomorph was. You wondered what planet it could have evolved on. I guess that really does make it Prometheus' fire because the Engineers are technically "gods" in that case. Often Lucifer is called Prometheus in comparative religion since he is the "light-bearer". Light/fire blah blah.
That pregnant lady had black goo breast milk. This is the order: • Prometheus • Alien: Covenant • Alien • Alien: Romulus • Aliens • Alien 3 • Alien: Resurrection
This movie basically starts by show you how many humans are in this colony. So I was waiting for them to accidentally introduce the Aliens to the colony without marines to back em up.
At one corner of my mind i had that thought, specially in the past Wayland had the bad habit of letting things flow in the wrong bad way, with their obsession with alien tech and the xenomorphs, i guess they would actually let a colony get sacrificed but in return they had a farm full of the xeno aliens for them to harvest and keep experimenting, they knew most colonies where a lost cause, so. If they do not produce resources for deep space production, they will produce their main goal, "human advancement"....... then suddenly we get 10 movies of aliens just like resident evil where wesker is the alien queen.
The black liquid is from Prometheus. They call back to Prometheus by name in the movie, they also show the hologram of the urn that was in Prometheus and while showing it they played a remix of the Prometheus theme. It's really on the nose and I don't understand how could Joe miss this
@@koenbaudewyn6300 I think he is referring to joe calling the android from the first Alien "Rook". It was in fact Ash, and in Romulus it is the same model as Ash but not the same android obviously. Plus the black goo that "reminds" him of Prometheus, is exactly that goo....
@@koenbaudewyn6300 the fact he dosent even know that Prometheus and Alien: Convenant are both prequel movies that take place almost 2 decades before the first film. He states that Wayland isnt dead at this point but he is. he died in Prometheus. i mean im a casual Alien fan and even i know the correct order of the movies
it is weird when they talk about creating the perfect organism to work in the mines when they already have synthetics that can already do it without breathing.
@@purefoldnz3070no Rook refers to ANDY as being essential for their colonization efforts, he doesn’t mention mining when talking about the evolution of humanity. I think the point is that Weyland doesn’t want to rely on Androids to do the dirty work.
@@purefoldnz3070 Just had a look at the wiki. Seems like it both. Guessing this particular group saw it as opportunity to enhance their mining capabilities. Weyland is such a dodgy company. They always had alternate motives. Here’s the quote “In summary, Weyland-Yutani's reverse engineering efforts were driven by a combination of technological ambition, biological research, and a desire for corporate control over new and powerful technologies, all while maintaining a facade of legitimate business operations.” Dodgy, so this mining group thought it was to help with mining efforts.
@@jamesg871Joe gotta be riddled with the ADHD!!! He misses so much when doing these reviews and then does these weird cringe outbursts that a child would do lol I still like him though 😄
I was actually hoping we would find a group dug the fuck in somewhere on the station, great opportunity for some blood bags, some exposition, and build some tension. They killed the salvagers way too quickly
On Alien Isolation if you point your flamethrower at the alien it temporarily stops charging at you, that game is a big influence on this film and that's a good thing!
the movie felt very much so like "alien isolation, if it was a movie instead of a game." Honestly alien isolation could have benefited from the whole "oh there's an off limits part of the station that is actually a top secret weapons lab," that would have been awesome. Different vibe for sure
@@endyy6671 I'm sold! I've platinumed that game twice on Xbox and Playstation, love that game so I'm all in if similar to that, thanks for your review 👍
I believe those are the Runner Xenomorphs, I know that for Xenomorphs their form is influenced by their host, its why drones tend to be more common among their ranks because they are from human hosts.
@@moviereelnews I think I heard it happened at some point between two and three, my memory might be wrong here but wasn't there a dead facehugger in the same cryopod room as Ripley.
The most disgusting things in this movie ranked: 3) Foot-long face-hugger dong 2) Zombie Ian Holm’s CGI face 1) Violently bloody birth Honorable mention: they gave the human-alien hybrid a nose. Like an honest-to-god SCHNOZ.
hes a fucking synth why couldnt they just make an animatronic fuck they portrayed eviscerated synth ian holm with a synth in alien, just do it again and even a half assed moving animatronic would still look fantastic
@@spudastic that's what I *thought* they would do when you first see part of his body that was wrecked by acid. I thought it would be like Alien 3 with Bishop where you can only see like 1 eye, plugs through his ears, and is like...a torso, arm, and half a face. I didn't like them giving "Took" pretty much an entire functioning upper body and also decide to use awful CGI for Ian Holm's face. Too much fan service right there.
"It reminded you of the black goo of Prometheus"?? Dude, it's literally the same thing. Rook even says 'the fire of Prometheus'. Damn even the Prometheus sound is played during that scene. It is the exact same container (oval) as in Prometheus. How don't you get that??? My lord.
The alien essence (alien soup) you are talking about is the Pathogen from Prometeus and Covenant, they even show a container for it as a hologram. It always mutates other beings, depending on the point of contact. I thougt Joe said he researched the comics etc . :) Also Alien by Scott ends the same - Ripley thinks she is safe but a Xeno went with her onto a small escape ship. Covenant also has a moment like this - its a franchise trope.
In Prometheus we see several uses of this liquid, but it always resulted in the destruction of the individual's body and the birth of monsters. I don't really understand how they connect this with human evolution.
27:13 The pregnant lady never got face hugged. She was just taken to the hive and then saved, but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t banged up in the process. Aside from all the other physical stuff that happened to her (being flung, crashing, falling like 3 meters) The alien dragged her away pretty roughly …on top of being probably two months pregnant, for someone who hadn’t been truly harmed by the alien she was pretty banged up The black goo accelerant she took was the reason the weird alien baby came to be anyways. Firstly it was NOT the original black goo from Prometheus, it was a synthesized version that was ALMOST identical to it. So it’s safe to say, this would have a different reaction on humans than the original. Also take into account that in Prometheus, David only used a pin sized drop of original black goo and that created the tentacle monster that grew from Shaws womb…so it’s safe to say if you’re impregnated by an infected or already pregnant, the gestation will be fast as the “baby” will come out the normal way (or fight its way out like in Prometheus) ** also adding this in case people think “well why did the newborn have a second mouth?!” The Decon from Prometheus had a second mouth and guess what…Shaw was never face hugged..nor were there any face huggers in Prometheus 🙂↕️🫡
Small correction (potentially) The tentacle monster born from Shaw pretty much acts as the facehugger of the movie and implants the Deacon inside the engineer through a very facehugger like process, even dying after the job is done. Edit: And in a cut scene from the first movie it is implied that Xenomorphs can grow humans (or anything probably) into an egg. So the black goo might have changed Shaw into a pseudo-proto-egg to gestate the tentacle facehugger. Just a thought.
@@Lurkai Not sure if this is true because I have read none of the books or comics but I heard somewhere that the engineers used the blood of the first deacon, depicted on the mural in Prometheus, to change their own biology in a way that allowed them to reproduce again since they became unable to do so at some point in their evolution. This blood also allowed them to seed new life across different planets and we see them use the goo for the same purpose at the start of Prometheus. So I'm guessing the goo is derived somehow from that original deacon's blood. I'm not sure though how that deacon came to be without the goo already present, maybe it's somehow connected to whomever or whatever created the engineers. They themselves seemingly have no true power over the goo so it makes sense that it is something that's sort of foreign even to them.
I'm not sure that's entirely true about the goo, just watched the movie and quite sure they basically said they collected trace amounts of it from Facehuggers, like every one has a tiny amount, so it should still be the same stuff not something synthetic. I'm just wondering what happened to the pregnant woman, did she just become a tasty goo sack for nutrients or should she have regenerated and morphed like that rat? It doesn't seem like she should have died unless her role was purely reproductive. Obviously she looked pretty dead but I mean that rat got freaking flattened so if she's been infected by the goo she should heal. Only other option is the Offspring sucked the goo out of her completely but it did get interrupted.
Its like they didnt even watch the movie, they cant see the sun because of all the pollution so the sun never comes out. The station had recently arrived near their planet, he picked it up cause he was near the surface.
I thought the anti-gravity acid blood scene was so damn creative, I loved the practical effects, and dear fucking god that creature at the end was so unsettling. I'm so glad this wasn't another Prometheus or Covenant where I walk out the theater wondering whether I even liked anything about it. This was great as far as the Alien franchise goes.
I like the anti-gravity work around too. It’s such a unique work around to being on the station problem. And the hybrid thing was fucking creepy as shit.
2 biggest problems I had with the movie, otherwise pretty solid; - everything happens too quickly, from facehugger impregnation --> chestburster is over the span of 10/15 mins tops. something that should take hours. likewise with the hybrid alien goes from baby to adult in literally 2 mins. A bit rushed for me. - what OJ said lack of threat of both alien and face huggers, the crew just bat off the facehuggers like they are nothing yet in alien 1&2, we are shown that even 1 onboard can cause unrelenting damage.
Rook gives a probability of impregnation which means the FH can accelerate the process under stress. Something working behind the curtains is that the specimens may have been altered due to cloning (or printing), same as the accelerated cycle in Covenant.
That was the problem with covenant too if I remember. The implantation, growth period is whatever is convenient to the plot. In the first film, it took at least a day before the face hugger fell off, then several hours before it burst out, and then took a while before it got to full size.
Yeah I felt the same way, the facehuggers impregnated WAY too quickly and then the chestburster came out WAY too quickly... and then the alien fully gestated in I think like 5 minutes? It felt really weird. Also, how is ANYONE alive on the ship when they crashed into the space station? I feel like everyone's bones would be shattered
22:30 The tech girl that uses the x-ray device had discovered the station or "ship" in orbit using her skills or tech, which was explained when they were all trying to convince the main character to go with them in the ship to look from cyro-pods. I understood that to mean that she was the first to discover the station before anyone else on the planet, which is why they were the first group to dock with it. Another detail missed; the planet is in permanent night time ("0 hours of sunlight") - So they couldn't go to the other side of the planet to see the sun light, other than going into orbit or they would need to find another world.
10:49 The zero gravity acid scene was badass. It would have been very tragic if, moments later when the gravity machine reset, the floating acid fell down, ate through the floor and hull, and caused a catastrophic failure.
HOLY FUCK YES!!! My entire theater gasped out loud because it's just so god damn startling... you just see this huge pale slender-morph just perched up and it's shocking
@@Magoo7956I thought it was significantly more stupid looking than the baby from Resurrection. It was horrible. The last 20 mins really tanked the film for me.
@@ScrimpBoatI appreciated the idea of it, but it tanked the movie for me too. We just got done watching the Xenomorphs get slaughtered with ease and made a joke of, and now we are moving on to a new baddie. Left a sour taste.
This was at theaters? I thought it was a str8 to Netflix or Hulu movie..u can tell I don't watch television or trailers..I happened to catch this online movie streaming for free
Thank god somebody else noticed it! Also I like how the one guy used the red torch like a flare to draw off the facehuggers. I love doing that in isolation
Oh come on... Im not buying into this. The year is 2100-something and you say people cant see whats above their heads because of storms?! Cmon man - do I have to elaborate it more...? 😊
I don’t buy it. Mainly because they would probably have some satellites above the permeant storm to at least communicate with other outposts and the corporation heads when needed. Not sure how the it works, but I assume Weyland leases out Terraforming equipment so the people on the planet would still need to communicate with the managers off planet. And 100% you know the corporation would sacrifice the entire colony on that planet to grab stuff from the science station.
Ok but the corporation knows it's there. A side not: Not to be nitpicky but you'd want to have a highly dangerous science lab a bit more isolated from a population. Not orbiting a habitted planet.
@ 2:18, No one would recognize the name "Rook" because his name was "Ash" in the first film. It's not the same android, just the same model. So we would definitely need to see his face to know.
I just don't understand why they didn't use practice effects, as opposed to CGI. They coulda used a dummy or a puppet. I mean, he's literally an android, it's okay if it doesn't look 100% real. Just build an android looking prop that resembles Ash. The voice is what really matters.
At the beginning, they say a synthetic sacrificed three people in the mines There were three sacrifices made by the characters, the dude dying for rain, Andy not opening the door for the pregnant lady, and the three being abandoned by asshat dude
It is the prometheus black goo, they literally show the urn the goo was in and play the prometheus theme while they do it. Also when the alienbaby goes to the pregnant mom he is Nursing off her mutated breasts, that's what the weird slime was that she was freaking out about. And that "get away from her" line really is the one scene that sucked me out of the movie with how forced it was and made no sense.
Everyone is forgetting that the Bjorn character was like “you bitch” to Andy earlier in the movie, and Andy saying “you bitch” at the end was not just a call back to Aliens but showing him learning from before, trying to be tougher. It worked for me.
Ah yeah I forgot about that - rehashing the full line just felt cringey and forced in the moment, but yeah it was actually somewhat set up earlier in the story.
dude the xeno who cought the girl is STILL the same one that was in the elevator shaft. it got OUT of the way of the falling elevator, THEn the synth takes it out.
The baby monster wasn't eating the mother, it was being a baby. That's why in an earlier scene we see the mother touch her chest and finding a weird material instead of milk. Weird
One part of the movie that was off to me was how the Android goes from not being able to force open a door when they are 'stuck' in the face hugger room, to suddenly being able to hold up a entire elevator like he is iron man.
@filipedecarvalho2723 yeah that was prettty much how i rationalised it to myself in the end, that his body was always physically capable of that kind of strength, but he needed the "software" upgrade from the micro disk thing lol
@@michaelfielding6666 in the beginning Andy was a damaged synthetic android, Bjorn mentioned that Rain's father found Andy in a rubbish dump and Rain's father reprogrammed him. So clearly Andy was physically weaker in the beginning, he was literally discarded as trash before Rain's father found him, so he must've had some mechanical and software problems that rendered him physically weak and redundant to the company, that's why he was damaged and discarded. The chip that was later implanted in Andy not only upgraded his software, but also healed his motor functions. This was all mentioned in the movie.
Apparently Angry Joe has only seen "Aliens" because there's a fucking ENGLISH ACCENT in every other film! (That said, the cousin was almost impossible to understand)
My biggest beef with Aliens (which I loved) was the fact the colonists had been there for over twenty years but never done a flyover of the planet, let alone their immediate surroundings and only discovered a gigantic alien spacecraft within driving distance of their base.
Correct. We are simply seeing the Company Weyland Utani and the synthetics continuing with his directive like we saw with David in Prometheus before he became obsessed with the black goo and going off to pursue his own goals
@@TheFallofTheEleventh I feel like that makes no sense. Weyland didn't know about the black goo beforehand and since everyone on Prometheus died how would the company find out?
@@liveac3694 they found the genetic code for the black goo while they were experimenting on the alien. The android Ash tells them this when explaining it to them
@@TheFallofTheEleventh Yeah but why were they looking for it and how did they even know what they were looking for? No one could have known about the black goo since all the Prometheus crew died.
@@liveac3694 they weren’t specifically looking for the black goo. They were simply looking for different ways of advancing human evolution and expanding humanities lifespan so that they could survive expanding throughout the galaxies. The android that was cut in half explains this to the crew and how the scientists that were examining the Xenomorph stumbled across the genetic code for the black goo.
Correction: The android in THIS movie was Rook, who is the same kind of android as the one from the first movie. The android from the FIRST movie was Ash.
Overall i'd give it about an 8/10. I was really engaged, the ratcheting up of the situation was done really organically to increasingly impossible levels and it all worked. The callback line when the Andy jumps down the shaft shooting the alien, you can tell the director wanted nostalgia applause to breakout and the whole theater was so silent haha. That didn't work at all. My only other issue is the characters weren't super fleshed out beyond the main which is a small complaint but they could have at least been more likeable and/or given us a bit more time with them.
Are we sure AJ is a real Aliens fan? The name of the android in the first Alien is Ash not Rook so even Joe's suggestion of having just the name tag on Ian Holm's android does not work. Also none of you guys even know the timeline for Prometheus? It takes place way before the first Alien. The timeline is as follows: Prometheus Alien Covenant Alien Alien Romulus Aliens ...and so on.
@@Awesomenes74 the fact is Joe got even the first Alien movie wrong is a joke. For a self proclaimed fan with pulse rifle and Colonial Marines props he should be familiar even with the worst of the franchise. From this review it shows remembers Alien Resurrection more when he said Dominique Pinon's Santa Claus line from that movie lol. Maybe Joe is secretly a bad movies fan. 😆
AJ clearly is a hardcore fan of Aliens only, dude just loves all the weapons and gadgets introduced in the film, other than that he is a casual viewer.
I think the whole “they would approach you with caution if you have a gun” thing is from alien isolation like when you have a flame thrower the AI alien will kinda creep up instead of a full assault
the ian holms cgi android wasn't ash, the android from alien, just the same type. it makes sense lore-wise since androids do look the same, but completely agree that the cgi was poor and they could have done something to cover up his face and mask it, or do like bishop in alien 3, practical and make his face messed up but recognizable
Given the movie had a $80 million budget, I’d say it’s perfectly fine 🤷♂️ and you coulddd say he’s damaged so maybe that messed with his facial movement (bit of a cop out ik but still)
Exactly. Prometheus and Covenant happen before Alien. Covenant is 2 decades before Alien (and maybe was supposed to explain how the Derelict arrived at Alien - but personally, I'm glad they didn't)
I really love the attention to detail that the baby wasn’t even part human. It was part engineer, part xenomorph. Which is perfect, because engineers revered the xenomorph. As for the mom, it came back to try to nuzzle its mom but she pushes it back and it pisses her off. That being said, she was lactating goo. Fucking horrifying
@@Czejenesku there is already lore established that they did. Case in point, the mural on the wall in Prometheus showed the xenomorph in a Christ pose with the lifecycle being shown with engineers being attached by facehuggers. I wish I remembered the video that describes it, but I’d look for anything along the lines of “Prometheus explained”.
@@Czejenesku actually they kind of did. Like the person above me stated, in Prometheus we see on the Engineer Mural that there is some kind of creature that looks like a Xenomorph yet is much more natural and smooth in its appearance and doesn’t have all the bio-mechanical parts, sort of like the Deacon creature we see at the end of Prometheus. The black goo is meant to be an advanced accelerant that vastly increases the speed of evolution. The Engineers were potentially trying to re-create the Xenomorph type creature which is what we see with the Engineer consuming the black goo before falling into the Earth’s water supply and creating the spark that leads to humanity’s creation at the start of Prometheus but instead of getting the Xenomorph or the Deacon, they created us which is why they despise the Humans when the characters in Prometheus meet an Engineer. David then became obsessed with the idea of becoming a creator in the same way Humans created synthetics and how Engineers created Humanity. He finds the Engineers technology and experiments with the black goo and began performing his own research, creating variants of the black goo such as the plant life in Alien: Covenant that releases the Spores that function the same way as the Black Goo. This is what leads to the Xenomorph having the bio-mechanical design to it. David then managed to create the eggs for his Xenomorph and at the end of Alien: Covenant he hijacks the ship of colonisers to use as experiments to create the Alien Queen which is what then leads to full self sustainability and reproduction cycle for the Xenomorphs. This is the version of the Alien that Weyland captures at the beginning of Alien: Romulus and they use that to synthesise the black goo and create the facehuggers
Man, this was just alien Resurrection, and here is my proof: A group of mercenary-type characters with a synthetic guy, go to a a ship where they are researching and testing on the findings of the Nostromo. The Aliens escape killing the complete crew and developing a nest. The mercenaries need to abandon the Ship because it´s about to explode, meantime the artificial person turns against the survivor to protect his mission. When the crew is about to escape the ship a new Alien-Hybrid creature is born and proceeds to eat it mother. The Alien Hybrid is ultimately killed by piercing a hole into the ship, where is sucked and almost disintegrated into space. Dude...
Don’t know if anyone commented about this. But when the brash teen tried electrocuting the first alien in the pod on the wall. You notice this had an effect when it was fully grown. It’s the same alien that saved the main girl in the falling elevator seen. The aliens head had electricity running through its head. I just thought that was a cool detail.
I liked when the computer said there was 47 minutes left before the space station collides with the planet's ring it actually felt like that was the allotted amount of time in the movie. I hate when movies say there's like 5 minutes left before something happens it takes like 20 minutes.
This movie is waaaay after Prometheus AND Covenant. There is more than one Weyland, it's a family. It goes Prometheus, Covenant, Alien, Romulus, Aliens, A3, Resurrection.
The planet was a mining colony. They had a Matrix McGuffin where the sky is blacked out. They don't explain this, but show it when they enter orbit before boarding the ship. Also Prometheus and Covenant take place 20 to 30 years before the first Alien movie. Everything else that has come out, including this takes place after.
That was without a doubt the most horrifying disgusting creature Alien has ever made. It's like they brought Giger back from the dead to make something so utterly unnerving. I mean seriously when it popped up and said "I'm science officer Rook" we all screamed what a jumpscare.
What you said about the Xeno morphs not killing them so they could be impregnated it’s something I’ve always thought made alien three so stupid. The alien knew Riley had a queen but still killed everybody. And there is a very limited number of people that should’ve been kept alive to be host the Queen’s eggs. The whole movie went against the aliens survival instinct.
The Dog Alien in generally seemed less intelligent and more animalistic compared to standard Xenomorphs. My head canon is that since its host was a dog(or ox if you prefer the assembly cut), it inherited a weaker level of intelligence compared to Xenomorphs who had human hosts. Alien Resurrection also established that Xenomorphs have a genetic memory ability, as in they literally share some of the memories from their hosts, which is why they’re so intelligent for only being alive for a few hours. It was also used to explain why clone Ripley shared some of the same memories of the original Ripley. Because the cloning technology was imperfect, it resulted in a slight genetic slicing for both Ripley and her Queen embryo. This allowed clone Ripley to inherit the genetic memory ability, which is used to explain why Ripley have some of the original Ripley’s memories.
@@windowsVD hmmm. That’s a pretty good point. So smart enough not to kill Riley but still dumb enough to not leave any hosts for the queens eggs. Now we just have to figure out how the egg and face hugger got on the Salaco
I think everyone loves Alien and Aliens and most people dislike or hate Alien 3, Resurrection and covenant. Then people are pretty split and either love or hate Prometheus. Point being I think they mixed all the best elements of the stuff people like and mixed it together in a very good way. Good movie overall and the last act…. Never getting my wife pregnant after that lmao
Get her pregnant, just don't offend your alien baby by pushing its face away like the mother in this movie. Cherish and nurture your alien baby into becoming the ultimate killing machine.
There's no reason to make Rook look like Ian Holm (Ashe). It adds nothing to the show. Had they just used a new face, we wouldn't have known if this android was good or not, and that would have been more interesting. Worst CGI in a largely good looking movie.
Guys, the Prometheus takes place some 30 years before the Alien, so by this point (in the Romulus) Wayland was dead for half a century. (Romulus takes place 20 years after Alien)
My biggest lore issue was that, in Aliens, nobody believes Ripley's story and think she's crazy. However, in Romulus, Weyland Utani is already balls deep in researching the Xenomorphs which means they have records upon records of data on the species while Ripley is in cryo. Makes no sense and creates a massive plot hole
Well, yes. We know they know about the Alien as far back as the original movie with the special order stuff and the crew being expendable. That's just the suits bullshitting Rips
I would say the opposite, it explains their interest in Aliens throughout the films. In relation to Ripley, they could have simply lied, or the junior staff could have been unaware.
@@BRALLUS the Nostromo and its cargo was a write off from years before. The Platoon being dispatched to LV426 was a routine response to check on colonies that go dark. First they send a platoon and then they send a whole effing task force loaded for bear if the Platoon goes dark as well.
Angry Joe for the love of god please let Alex speak and stop cutting him off, it took 15:22 for him to chime in and you cut him off immediately. Let the boys have more to say, same with OJ.
That's what I got, and then the weird hybrid thing starts to stick its extra mouth out and it certainly looks like he's about to try and breastfeed from her with it
I don't think Rook's face was that bad though it would have been better and got less criticism if they just had his face projected on a 2D screen, like the robots in Gears of War.
The station has no transponder active. The only reason the kiddie crew noticed it was they randomly looked in the right direction to pick it up. Initially, they thought it was a derelict spacecraft, not a defunct station out of it's orbit. I'm 90% sure either Rook or MUTHOR set the orbit of the station to get close enough to the colony in order to tempt someone to investigate, so they could continue the experiment
How do you as a big Alien fan don’t know that Rook is not the robot from the original, but just the same model. The robot from Alien is called Ash. He explodet in the Nostromo obviously.
I thought the mother would give birth to an Alien queen and they would have to fight it. Or the mother herself would transform into the Queen and fight her own child. Or a big last Xeno was still alive and the epic battle starts vs the born monster. Man... So many possibilities. Each of them would give the film a huge boost. The film now is a solid 7. Those options would make it 10/10 for sure.
Lore wise, isn't it: Prometheus: 2093 Covenant: 2104 Alien: 2122 Romulus: 2142 Aliens: 2179 Weyland dies in Promethues. Also, was really hoping Romulus tied in with Aliens. Weyland Corp captures the survivors, cryo-sleep them and ship them off with Facehuggers with the 70.Colonists going to LV-426.
It’s already explained in Aliens that the Xenomorphs/ outbreak started because a crashed derelict ship was sitting close to where humans were trying to terraform and live. Nothing happened for 20 years until (if I remember correctly) a man returned back to the compound. Presumably with an alien already implanted in him. That was patient zero. And explains how the labs in Aliens already had test tube Facehuggers and such.
They might do a tie in of one of the novels ( I can’t remember the name) similar concept but it’s Ripley getting picked up by a mine crew and it ends with her getting memory wiped so it didn’t fuck up the continuity. Maybe a chance to bring Signory back one last time idk
@@Chris-gw2xg no it was another derelict ship that the scientist and humans failed to see before they started colonizing. They built an effective community but someone left it. Came back with what is presumed a facehugger. They became patient zero. Alien outbreak wiped the community.
Angry Joe show is the one channel that has me walking away understanding even less during spoiler reviews. He had got to do a better job with explaining.
Yea, the movie is much more coherent and makes much more sense than whatever this mess of an explanation was 🤣 He could at least know Prometheus is the 1st one and than OJ with his ´facts´ from the internet somehow finds out that Prometheus is after Alien 4 ? Like you can´t make this shit up.
he jumps around like someone who remembers the scenes as they pop in his head. what do you want? for him to audiobook the whole movie. spoiled ass. his retelling is just like friends coming out of the theater and talking about it. how about go get a ticket and watch the movie first and then watch a spoiler video broke ass
At the end when the sister injects herself with the fluid what would’ve been a lot cooler is that is how the alien queen was born. Since this movie is taking place between Alien and Aliens it would’ve made sense. They never explain how the alien queen was formed. The sister is pregnant and that’s why the alien queen is the only alien that can lay eggs since it came from a woman who is pregnant and injected herself.
The anachronistic technology in Prometheus/Covenant and Ridley messing with the xenomorph’s evolution confuses things visually, but the series timeline is: Prometheus (30 years before Alien) Covenant (20 years before Alien) Alien Isolation (15 years after Alien) Romulus (20 years after Alien) Aliens (57 years after Alien) Alien 3 (same year as Aliens) Alien Resurrection (200 years after Alien 3)
Lots of this is'explained' (hand waves) in the Alien RPG. The Prometheus tech us high tech science stuff. The normal old 70s tech is done for 2 reasons. 1st that tech is not susceptible to EMP which helps it survive theirs and sit from other alliances so magnetic tape is safer. 2nd is cheaper for mass production on the normal vessels. We should 'assume' that Prometheys tech still exists for Elites... hey at least it's something to grasp onto 😂😂
My favorite "homage" to Alien is that the 'countdown timer' is in real time! I'm ADD enough that when a movie puts a timer in I check my watch just to see if it's going to be accurate. The first Alien 'countdown' timer happened in real time...and the timer in this is in real time as well! It's exactly 20 minutes from the 'T-minus 30 minutes until impact' to 'T-minus 10 minutes' and then it hits the asteroid field right on time. It gives me a strange sense of satisfaction when movies do this.
I think you're all VERY confused about the timeline of these movies. All 3 of you were completely off here... Prometheus takes place between 2089-2093 (Weyland dies at the very end and faked his death years before 2093) Alien Covenant takes place in 2104 Alien takes place in 2122 Alien Romulus takes place in 2142 (Weyland Yutani's official death has already been 49 years at this point, so Rook saying he died makes sense (it's not the same android as in the first Alien. That model was called Ash) How he knows the exact details of Weylands death... no idea. Probably found the crashed Engineer ship somewhere in between films off screen) He even calls is the 'Prometheus project' in the film. Aliens and Alien 3 both take place in 2179 Alien Resurrection takes place in 2381... OJ saying Resurrection comes before Prometheus... It's set almost 300 years after Prometheus 😂
Now that is tied to Prometheus. We gotta find out how they even get contact with the pathogen. Still wondering what happened to David and the covenant.
21:40 honestly I think either the station just completely lost contact after the station shut down/everyone died, or they were hoping someone would board it after all hands were lost so aimed it to orbit the planet to hopefully salvage it/someone would board it (which btw the only reason they got the signal from it was because they went so far up in the air in one of the flights, I assume normally its only company ships going in and out of the planet)
Rook mentions it would take like 6 months or 6 years (can’t remember which) for a team to get out there. The station still had power so it hadn’t been fucked for that long. I get the feeling they made a breakthrough with the injectors then the Alien broke out, all hell broke lose, somebody made a decision to fuck it all and put the station on a path with the nearest place it would be destroyed.
@@MikeJones-qn1gzi actually think he said it would take 6 months just for them to receive the message. Then you have to add all the travel time on top of that.
@@MrTask4ceyeah just saw it, he states that it’ll take 6 months for them to get the signal so it hasn’t been that long since the station went offline. But that really doesn’t explain why WY on the ground didn’t send out a team to investigate prior to it starting a path to the astroid belt. I assume that the station was floating off into space and just got stuck in the orbit of said planet.
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Spoiler: just clarifying confusion on the baby alien and the mom. When she pulls goo from under her shirt it is because her body is producing nutrients for the alien like breast milk. The alien doesn’t eat her but instead breast feeds from her to death.
The painting that's shown of some revolution were Romulus and Remus were spawned is perfect cinematography.
Thanks for clarifying that. I felt something really dark and sinister happened there but i just couldnt put my finger on what exactly. This makes sense now - thanks.
@@THETWUAN-r3unice catch! they focus on the painting for like 2 seconds
Wow I didn’t catch that. That actually makes the film a lot cooler and messed up
cant clarify that cause you see no boobs
Joe the android in the first film is named Ash, not Rook. this is the same model but a different android with a different name.
and the "alien essence" you're talking about is the black goo from prometheus. Rook says "we discovered a non neutonian fluid inside the DNA of the Xeno" or whatever... they extracted the black goo from prometheus. they even show the little urn storage unit for a few seconds on a hologram.
In all the movies the androids names start with Ash, then names start with B, C, D and this guy fucked it up
Yes i was thinking the exact same thing. They coulda kept it up with the droid being named "En-D" instead of Andy@@garrettbot143
@@garrettbot143didnt Walter already fuck it up?
Yep, surprised Joe didn't catch that. They mass produced that android so they all looked the same.
They want to go to a new planet with daylight. The planet the colony is on has 0 hours of daylight. That was specified when introducing the colony…
They also explain why they'd risk going to a Weyland-Yutani facility in order to escape the station.
There's at least a *possibility* they could escape a facility, or just do what they did and disable the remote piloting in the ship once they're launched. None of them can pilot the ship to take off, so they need Rook to remotely pilot for the ship in order to take off.
And their other choice is to not go to the facility, and crash into the rings of the planet and die with zero possibility of escape. Because there are no other ships, there are no other pilots, and the station is doomed to crash (first in ~36 hours, then in ~40 minutes and counting). Or potentially be torn apart by Xenomorphs before that happens.
@@saintcynicism2654 You just made me realize.. How is she supposed to be able to pilot the ship then? She's the only one left and she put him in the pod and she does the log while they're on their way to Yvaga or wherever.
She's not even a pilot.
@drownthepoor The short answer is she doesn't, they set the ship to autopilot for Yvaga III and she goes into cryosleep. They'll deal with what comes after that once they're in the system, but if I had to guess she's counting on the ship being found adrift and rescued that way.
34:18 My guys, Prometheus is a prequel.. its set 30 years before Alien, and Covenant is 10 years after that. Wyland is well and truly dead at this point
For being such a mega alien fan you would think joe would know this
I have not gotten to this point in the video but the fact that they did not know this SIMPLE ASS FACT makes me not want to finish the spoiler review.
@jcaashby3 Yeah, they don't know much about the world of Alien.
How tf did they not realise this 🤦🏻♂️
Who knows anything about Prometheus? It was complete and utter shit
Did you miss the fact the black pathogen IS the black liquid in Alien Romulus? They even said it's name "The Prometheus Strain."
Or the prometheus music playing overtop
Do you think Prometheus haters pay attention
*you mean Prometheus right?
Prometheus' Flame*
The sky is blue
I like how the scientist assault rifles are basically a weapon designed for people that have minimal training.
No that was layme
It actually makes a lot of sense from a worldbuilding perspective.
They had to give aim assist and a 400 mag rifle to attempt to even the odds, the characters were a complete joke, except for the android he was cool.
Did y'all not see Aliens? That's been a thing for a while. Vasquez uses a "Smart Gun" which is that aim assisted cannon she carries. Romulus just applied the concept to the pulse rifle.
@@CamelCase-gz2ti I've seen people question this saying it was stupid and it's quite hilarious because either they haven't paid attention to these movies or they're just stupid and desperately want to hate on it.
There's also those auto-turrets they use, why WOULDN'T they have tech like this...
Was not expecting the Orphan of Kos cameo at the end 😂
You’re right😂. I see it now haha
damm right!
i thought the same :D
Fucking right, I was like….. hello Bloodborne.
it was the first thing I though when I saw it
lorewise its also very similar
They literally said it was the black liquid from Prometheus they reversed engineered
^ this. Weyland Utani found the Alien from the first movie and used it to create more face huggers and synthesise the black goo to forcefully kick start evolution in humanity so that they can survive expanding throughout the universe. That’s why the pregnant girl who injects herself gives birth to the weird Humans/Engineer/Xenomorph hybrid, because it’s a mixture of all 3
Exactly I felt a sense of satisfaction seeing as Prometheus is a Prequel. The baby that came out this time was more Human like due to science. Less alien and more human. In say the year 2500 they may come out like us but superhuman. That should be the next movie. At least it gives us somewhere new to go.
@@TheFallofTheElevenththanks for clearing up an issue I had with the whole newborn birth 🙏🏻🙌🏼 was it explained in this movie where/how they obtained the black goo?
@@SeekingGodsWillas much as the movie didn’t work for me as a whole and the bad outweighed the good I did find this plot point interesting - Weyland researching the Alien life form to further human space exploration and survival and not just the overused bio weapons use 🙏🏻🙌🏼
@@SJK-ROW-K happy to help! yes it was explained. At the beginning of the movie they find that giant rock like object floating in space that the Xenomorph embedded itself in. Weyland took the object and the Xeno and used its DNA and biology to synthesise and create their own version of the black goo.
Since the Xenomorphs were created by David in Alien: Covenant with his experiments on the black goo it makes sense that every Xenomorph carries the genetic template for the black goo itself.
The grow time on these Xenos was Uber fast like crazy in less than 30 min I think it went from newborn to a warrior.
Newborn to warrior 😂
Well it wasn't a Praetorian lol whichever lol just the baby to full killing machine time was incredibly fast but hey it worked 🤷😂@@sleepingconscious6110
Yup, cause these ones are David's black-goo creations. These one's are artificial fakes, unlike the ones in Alien and after.
@AkinokazeHaruichiban wait I thought the face huggers were spawned from original alien and only the hybrid at the end was created from the goo.
@@MattRamn They got the goo from these facehuggers.
While the exact process was never laid out, it's implied the original facehugger implant a form of egg into the host.
The one's in this film however use a form of black goo, and none are seen inside eggs, only artificial storage pouches.
I'm pretty sure the implication is that they found david and that's how they got them. The end of covenant has him with facehuggers in transparent containers... we only see two, but he could have had more, or made more after reaching the colony he was headed too.
funniest part of alien Resurrection is when Ron Perlman gets jump scared by a small spider while climbing a ladder and shoots it with his gun. 😂
Or when he’s being held at gunpoint, he turns around and snatches the gun from them only to then instantly give them the gun back for no reason 😂😂
he was a good part of the movie glad they kept him alive like the guy in the chair he was good aswell
Makes zero sense but it was funny in how absurd it was 😂
I've never felt more seen. 🙏🔥🕸️🕷️🕸️🔥
A understand reasoning for anyone who has arachnophobia
33:12 Peter Weyland's death was reported as May 5, 2089, but in reality he was in cryo-stasis until the events of Prometheus. Prometheus takes place in December of 2093 (Janek tells Meredith Vickers that it's Christmas shortly after they arrive at LV-223), where Peter Weyland comes out of cryo-stasis and gets killed by an Engineer.
Alien: Covenant takes place in 2104
Alien takes place in 2122
Alien: Romulus takes place in 2142, which is 37 years prior to the events of Aliens.
So, yes. Peter Weyland has been dead (as seen in Prometheus) for 49 years by the time we get to Alien: Romulus.
But how long has the space station been operational? 20 years seems like a lot but space is big. For Weyland to get the news of the initial Alien event to then go and build a space station, research and synthesis a formula. Just thinking about the space station alone has a ton of plot holes not even taking the timeline into consideration.
@@bumwhistler6304time doesn't even work like it does here. In the Alien universe, time folds and twists. Weyland explains so in his Ted talk. :)
@@bumwhistler6304 Two assumptions made here could be incorrect. The first being that the company commissioned the station for the xenomorph research instead of that just being an existing research station that was adapted for use, the second is that you are assuming the company wasn't prepared but they are the ones who forced the situation to happen, they knew something important was on that planet so it stands to reason they had an idea of what it was before then.
@MasterDeroy holy shit. Your comment abt time made me think of something. This makes sense now of why the engineer ripped David apart in prometheus. The engineers are humans way in the future because weyland yutani figured it out on making humans evolve. Notice how the engineers suits have markings like the xenos and they can withstand space travel, Notice how the offspring looks like an engineer. Now put it all together. It's a loop. Humans created them when David dropped the goo on that 'engineer' planet in covenant. Some may have survived, fast forward years for evolution. weyland space travels and time warps and bends in on itself, prometheus happens, the engineer remembers David, rips his head off, then tries to set off to earth on a revenge mission, to drop the goo on earth. Or not even revenge, they want earth to be like them and get rid of the need for androids because of the history that they know. They were bending space. If done right, the time travel can be introduced but they would have to really explain time warping and how it works, make it believable.
@@simonausmus they preplanned an alien getting forced out of an airlock and knew exactly the flightpath of said alien?
24:17 you guys must have got up to pee… A LOT. All the plot holes you talked about were explained. Or they were because of your misunderstanding like when you said Weyland was alive. He dies in Prometheus which takes place the earliest of all the movies.
The black goo created all the aliens and they reverse engineered it genetically in the lab. They even played the Prometheus theme and called it “the flame of Prometheus” to make sure no one would miss it.
They made clear the reason they were the only ones who could scavenge the ship. The probe ship had recovered the adrift alien and began experimenting in the last year and a beacon was sent immediately to Weyland Utani once the station was compromised. The Rook synth said the response team was still 6 months away cuz space travel (and the local planet didn’t have the capabilities) and because their orbit was compromised they were the only hope to retrieve the goo or alien dna off the station.
Also It literally stated on the screen in text the planet had 0 days of sunlight per year and I don’t know maybe they wanted off the planet because they were basically slaves?
All that said it’s an 8 I agree with it and you guys are wrong about Prometheus. It’s a solid movie.
See ppl be like “why do movies dumb it down for us”
Well you get reviewers and ppl like this who misunderstand stuff that happened and then tell their viewers that there are plot holes or something that doesn’t make sense and it runs for years
They must either sit on their phones, talk a lot during or simply zone out while drooling. It’s either in your face info or it passes by
Even in the beginning when she is going to get released from her contract you hear over the speaker system they are basically slaves, on a dark planet, I enjoyed needing to actually pay attention the background, not be bottle fed everything
Prometheus is indeed a solid movie!
One thing I don't understand is how she's piloting the ship to Yvaga when she's not a pilot.
Oh and they were going to put her in the mines. People are constantly dying of novel viruses including her parents, and so another 6 years was basically a death sentence.
And I think Andy gave her the gun because it falls within a compromise of his two directives: The goo has to leave the station with them ALIVE, but also his 2nd was still to protect her.
I didn't think Alien Resurrection was as bad as everyone says.
I didn't like Prometheus or Covenant. The fact it's so far back in time, and they have hologram-projection displays etc.
And then in Covenant they're carrying actual AR-15's which is even more ridiculous. They're way ahead of the tech of the Nostromo, and yet using firearms designed in 1962?
I hate the lore of the Engineers and the black goo, and I think they created humans too? It was too changing of the fundamentals, and I hate when you take an old property and write new canon.
Alien was supposed to be like Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween. A stand-alone horror film, and part of what's great about it is how truly alien the Xenomorph was. You wondered what planet it could have evolved on.
I guess that really does make it Prometheus' fire because the Engineers are technically "gods" in that case.
Often Lucifer is called Prometheus in comparative religion since he is the "light-bearer". Light/fire blah blah.
That pregnant lady had black goo breast milk. This is the order:
• Prometheus
• Alien: Covenant
• Alien
• Alien: Romulus
• Aliens
• Alien 3
• Alien: Resurrection
Wait, that’s breast milk? I thought it was her wounds healing.
How do these reviewers not know the damm timelines of the franchise they are watching?
Order of what? OF WHAT? You didnt said anything.
@@KapitanPazur1 You're right he didn't "say anything". But he typed the correct chronological order of these films.
@@DarrellLeeBhaha right!? They have 100+ comments on this channel alone. All day typing, no time reading.
This movie is the ultimate safe sex commercial.
Also the ultimate Just Say No To Drugs commercial in regards to the pregnant lady injecting herself with the pathogen.
Same with Prometheus, pro choice on abortion.
So much vagina horror with the Alien cocoon thing half way through the movie
@@danielpeckham5520 More like C section 💀
@@Marukanitel ah, yes @_@
This movie basically starts by show you how many humans are in this colony. So I was waiting for them to accidentally introduce the Aliens to the colony without marines to back em up.
At one corner of my mind i had that thought, specially in the past Wayland had the bad habit of letting things flow in the wrong bad way, with their obsession with alien tech and the xenomorphs, i guess they would actually let a colony get sacrificed but in return they had a farm full of the xeno aliens for them to harvest and keep experimenting, they knew most colonies where a lost cause, so. If they do not produce resources for deep space production, they will produce their main goal, "human advancement"....... then suddenly we get 10 movies of aliens just like resident evil where wesker is the alien queen.
Sounds like a cool survival game.
@@marduk_ashur Yeah the Resident Evil games have been struggling until recently.
That would have been cool,
The black liquid is from Prometheus. They call back to Prometheus by name in the movie, they also show the hologram of the urn that was in Prometheus and while showing it they played a remix of the Prometheus theme. It's really on the nose and I don't understand how could Joe miss this
Joe missed quite a lot.
Joe misses a lot, bless him, he didn’t even know there was an Alien series set on Earth in production … until today during his non spoiler review 🙄
What u expect from an average joe
3 out of 3 missed it.
I love Joe but sometimes I swear he's smokin rocks. lol
For an alien fan Joe doesn’t know much at all does he 😂
Pathetic really
Not sure what you are referring to. When in the video does he show little knowledge of Alien?
@@koenbaudewyn6300 I think he is referring to joe calling the android from the first Alien "Rook". It was in fact Ash, and in Romulus it is the same model as Ash but not the same android obviously. Plus the black goo that "reminds" him of Prometheus, is exactly that goo....
@@koenbaudewyn6300 the fact he dosent even know that Prometheus and Alien: Convenant are both prequel movies that take place almost 2 decades before the first film. He states that Wayland isnt dead at this point but he is. he died in Prometheus. i mean im a casual Alien fan and even i know the correct order of the movies
Yeah, none of these guys know anything, at all. It’s sad really.
Nobody in my screening liked the "get away from her you...", there was an audible sigh, I literally threw my hands up in disappointment.
Just left the theater, I have never been so uncomfortable in my entire life. That hybrid is going to be in my nightmares
That smile 😅 jeez
That thing was pure evil and nightmare fuel
Haven’t been shocked by anything on any movie in quite some time.
To make matters worse,that’s not CGI ,it’s an actual person IRL 😂
Have you seen all of the old Alien movies
This movie needs a director's cut
Yeah will be interesting to see deleted scenes, apparently there was a longer cut that was shortened
yes! There's so many parts that feel clipped and oddly out of place.
Yeah or a re-edit at the very least. The editing of this film overall was veeeeery choppy
I agree. With extra character growth and maybe more xenomorph scenes, this movies could be a 9/10.
@@Bfrd25the whole layout of the ship
You guys got the timeline all off. Prometheus, Covenant, Alien, Romulus, Aliens, Alien 3, and finally Resurrection
it is weird when they talk about creating the perfect organism to work in the mines when they already have synthetics that can already do it without breathing.
@@purefoldnz3070 they just wanted to bio engineer the perfect human. Not just for mining purposes but for the entire humanity moving forward.
@@Br0wnCh3 Rook didnt mention that, just for mining which is weird
@@purefoldnz3070no Rook refers to ANDY as being essential for their colonization efforts, he doesn’t mention mining when talking about the evolution of humanity. I think the point is that Weyland doesn’t want to rely on Androids to do the dirty work.
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Just had a look at the wiki. Seems like it both. Guessing this particular group saw it as opportunity to enhance their mining capabilities. Weyland is such a dodgy company. They always had alternate motives. Here’s the quote “In summary, Weyland-Yutani's reverse engineering efforts were driven by a combination of technological ambition, biological research, and a desire for corporate control over new and powerful technologies, all while maintaining a facade of legitimate business operations.” Dodgy, so this mining group thought it was to help with mining efforts.
@@purefoldnz3070Ash (not Rook) did in his exposition dump in lab
Weyland is dead. The black goo is the black goo from Prometheus. The Timeline is Prometheus, Covenant, Alien, Romulus, Aliens
As an Alien fan, I'm shocked how Joe doesn't know this.
And Alien 3
@@calebisdisposable Just mentioned the oens important to set Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant in the timeline
@@jamesg871Joe gotta be riddled with the ADHD!!! He misses so much when doing these reviews and then does these weird cringe outbursts that a child would do lol I still like him though 😄
@@calebisdisposable LEts stop at "Aliens", please.
he said the "get away..." cuz that other dude was calling him a bitch the entire time and he registered as an insult and used it
Im glad you caught that.
Most didn't.
Doesn't make it good.
Or clever
@@erikwilliams1562 cool
the movie needed 2-3 redshirts that were found alive on the installation to join the scavenger crew so we could have more kills.
I was actually hoping we would find a group dug the fuck in somewhere on the station, great opportunity for some blood bags, some exposition, and build some tension. They killed the salvagers way too quickly
Agreed. Needed a few more bodies lol
Solid point. Was hoping that the cryo tubes already had humans in them
Or a couple of colonial marines show up to check out the now powered alarming space station in orbit. 🤷🏻♂️
YES!!!! Not enough people to watch die..)
On Alien Isolation if you point your flamethrower at the alien it temporarily stops charging at you, that game is a big influence on this film and that's a good thing!
the movie felt very much so like "alien isolation, if it was a movie instead of a game." Honestly alien isolation could have benefited from the whole "oh there's an off limits part of the station that is actually a top secret weapons lab," that would have been awesome. Different vibe for sure
For sure, they did their homework and wanted to make a tribute to all the Alien movies and isolation because that game deserves more love
@@endyy6671 I'm sold! I've platinumed that game twice on Xbox and Playstation, love that game so I'm all in if similar to that, thanks for your review 👍
Lol i also noticed one of the characters pumping a yellow and black level a couple times and said yup: Alien Isolation.
Also saw the save station in the background!
In Alien 3 Ripley had a Queen chestburster implanted in her, that is why the dog alien left her alone.
I believe those are the Runner Xenomorphs, I know that for Xenomorphs their form is influenced by their host, its why drones tend to be more common among their ranks because they are from human hosts.
@@cursedhawkins1305 A bit of trivia: It was supposed to be from an Ox. There's a scene shot and everything.
But then they changed it to a dog.
@user-yw9ys3dz7x correct. This is seen in the alien 3 assembly cut.
how did the queen chestburster get implanted
@@moviereelnews I think I heard it happened at some point between two and three, my memory might be wrong here but wasn't there a dead facehugger in the same cryopod room as Ripley.
The most disgusting things in this movie ranked:
3) Foot-long face-hugger dong
2) Zombie Ian Holm’s CGI face
1) Violently bloody birth
Honorable mention: they gave the human-alien hybrid a nose. Like an honest-to-god SCHNOZ.
Dude, when they pulled that facehugger off that thing was deep throating her guts. They kept pulling it back and there was still more in there.
I loved the nose lol 😂 just like the father!
the spider in resurrection #4
hes a fucking synth why couldnt they just make an animatronic
fuck they portrayed eviscerated synth ian holm with a synth in alien, just do it again and even a half assed moving animatronic would still look fantastic
@@spudastic that's what I *thought* they would do when you first see part of his body that was wrecked by acid. I thought it would be like Alien 3 with Bishop where you can only see like 1 eye, plugs through his ears, and is like...a torso, arm, and half a face. I didn't like them giving "Took" pretty much an entire functioning upper body and also decide to use awful CGI for Ian Holm's face. Too much fan service right there.
"It reminded you of the black goo of Prometheus"?? Dude, it's literally the same thing. Rook even says 'the fire of Prometheus'. Damn even the Prometheus sound is played during that scene. It is the exact same container (oval) as in Prometheus. How don't you get that??? My lord.
They haven’t watched timeline videos 😂
yeha these guys don't know WTF they are talking about its frustrating
@@AlbertoMartinez765 While pretending like they do....
Mommy was lactating, and the baby came back to latch and suckle. He was growing while suckling
The alien essence (alien soup) you are talking about is the Pathogen from Prometeus and Covenant, they even show a container for it as a hologram. It always mutates other beings, depending on the point of contact. I thougt Joe said he researched the comics etc . :) Also Alien by Scott ends the same - Ripley thinks she is safe but a Xeno went with her onto a small escape ship. Covenant also has a moment like this - its a franchise trope.
In Prometheus we see several uses of this liquid, but it always resulted in the destruction of the individual's body and the birth of monsters. I don't really understand how they connect this with human evolution.
How clearly knows nothing about this universe. He gets so much of it wrong.
@@jamesg871 Nah, he knows a lot. Just made some mistakes. And with Prometheus stuff its easy to forget cause its shit. xD
@@Czejenesku no... read the comments he got so much wrong
😂alien SOUP sounds so nasty🤣
27:13
The pregnant lady never got face hugged.
She was just taken to the hive and then saved, but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t banged up in the process. Aside from all the other physical stuff that happened to her (being flung, crashing, falling like 3 meters) The alien dragged her away pretty roughly …on top of being probably two months pregnant, for someone who hadn’t been truly harmed by the alien she was pretty banged up
The black goo accelerant she took was the reason the weird alien baby came to be anyways.
Firstly it was NOT the original black goo from Prometheus, it was a synthesized version that was ALMOST identical to it.
So it’s safe to say, this would have a different reaction on humans than the original.
Also take into account that in Prometheus, David only used a pin sized drop of original black goo and that created the tentacle monster that grew from Shaws womb…so it’s safe to say if you’re impregnated by an infected or already pregnant, the gestation will be fast as the “baby” will come out the normal way (or fight its way out like in Prometheus)
** also adding this in case people think “well why did the newborn have a second mouth?!”
The Decon from Prometheus had a second mouth and guess what…Shaw was never face hugged..nor were there any face huggers in Prometheus 🙂↕️🫡
Small correction (potentially)
The tentacle monster born from Shaw pretty much acts as the facehugger of the movie and implants the Deacon inside the engineer through a very facehugger like process, even dying after the job is done.
Edit: And in a cut scene from the first movie it is implied that Xenomorphs can grow humans (or anything probably) into an egg. So the black goo might have changed Shaw into a pseudo-proto-egg to gestate the tentacle facehugger. Just a thought.
@@aaronottermann5824 good insight! Yeah the black goo as far as we know is just a crazy accelerant but we also have no idea where it really comes from
@@Lurkai Not sure if this is true because I have read none of the books or comics but I heard somewhere that the engineers used the blood of the first deacon, depicted on the mural in Prometheus, to change their own biology in a way that allowed them to reproduce again since they became unable to do so at some point in their evolution. This blood also allowed them to seed new life across different planets and we see them use the goo for the same purpose at the start of Prometheus. So I'm guessing the goo is derived somehow from that original deacon's blood. I'm not sure though how that deacon came to be without the goo already present, maybe it's somehow connected to whomever or whatever created the engineers. They themselves seemingly have no true power over the goo so it makes sense that it is something that's sort of foreign even to them.
I thought the Offspring looked weirdly flat, probably because the baby inside her was flattened while she fell on her belly 😂
I'm not sure that's entirely true about the goo, just watched the movie and quite sure they basically said they collected trace amounts of it from Facehuggers, like every one has a tiny amount, so it should still be the same stuff not something synthetic.
I'm just wondering what happened to the pregnant woman, did she just become a tasty goo sack for nutrients or should she have regenerated and morphed like that rat? It doesn't seem like she should have died unless her role was purely reproductive. Obviously she looked pretty dead but I mean that rat got freaking flattened so if she's been infected by the goo she should heal.
Only other option is the Offspring sucked the goo out of her completely but it did get interrupted.
Man that man baby alien demon creature at the end was fuckin trippy!
Very much cosmic horror
no that's just one of Ridley's fetish's
My girlfriend was shitting herself at cinemas.
It’s a very cool and welcome addition to Alien franchise.
I still find the face huggers more terrifying
definitely the antichrist of xenomorphs, even the holes in its back were reminiscent of clipped wings
was stupid?
Hearing that pulse rifle singing her sweet song once again…. My god
Yes
Its like they didnt even watch the movie, they cant see the sun because of all the pollution so the sun never comes out. The station had recently arrived near their planet, he picked it up cause he was near the surface.
I assumed they were on the dark side of a tidally locked planet.
I thought the anti-gravity acid blood scene was so damn creative, I loved the practical effects, and dear fucking god that creature at the end was so unsettling. I'm so glad this wasn't another Prometheus or Covenant where I walk out the theater wondering whether I even liked anything about it. This was great as far as the Alien franchise goes.
Similar at all to that other Disney film?
@@terranova1995such as?
@@terranova1995
This thankfully doesn't feel like one at all.
I felt the opposite, just so OTT and removed fear/tension and horror totally.
I like the anti-gravity work around too. It’s such a unique work around to being on the station problem. And the hybrid thing was fucking creepy as shit.
2 biggest problems I had with the movie, otherwise pretty solid;
- everything happens too quickly, from facehugger impregnation --> chestburster is over the span of 10/15 mins tops. something that should take hours. likewise with the hybrid alien goes from baby to adult in literally 2 mins. A bit rushed for me.
- what OJ said lack of threat of both alien and face huggers, the crew just bat off the facehuggers like they are nothing yet in alien 1&2, we are shown that even 1 onboard can cause unrelenting damage.
Rook gives a probability of impregnation which means the FH can accelerate the process under stress. Something working behind the curtains is that the specimens may have been altered due to cloning (or printing), same as the accelerated cycle in Covenant.
That was the problem with covenant too if I remember. The implantation, growth period is whatever is convenient to the plot. In the first film, it took at least a day before the face hugger fell off, then several hours before it burst out, and then took a while before it got to full size.
@@Darkpara1I
Yeah I felt the same way, the facehuggers impregnated WAY too quickly and then the chestburster came out WAY too quickly... and then the alien fully gestated in I think like 5 minutes? It felt really weird. Also, how is ANYONE alive on the ship when they crashed into the space station? I feel like everyone's bones would be shattered
@@endyy6671it kinda of felt like the show should have been a series
22:30 The tech girl that uses the x-ray device had discovered the station or "ship" in orbit using her skills or tech, which was explained when they were all trying to convince the main character to go with them in the ship to look from cyro-pods. I understood that to mean that she was the first to discover the station before anyone else on the planet, which is why they were the first group to dock with it.
Another detail missed; the planet is in permanent night time ("0 hours of sunlight") - So they couldn't go to the other side of the planet to see the sun light, other than going into orbit or they would need to find another world.
10:49 The zero gravity acid scene was badass. It would have been very tragic if, moments later when the gravity machine reset, the floating acid fell down, ate through the floor and hull, and caused a catastrophic failure.
The shot of the hybrid on all fours in the vent (or whatever that was) is burned into my head. That thing scared the hell out of me
HOLY FUCK YES!!! My entire theater gasped out loud because it's just so god damn startling... you just see this huge pale slender-morph just perched up and it's shocking
Did we watch the same movie? 😂 I was just like “oh, cool.” Wasn’t really that shocking to me
@@Magoo7956 I guess it’s just something about tall, lanky monsters that really freak me out. Reminded me of SCP-096
@@Magoo7956I thought it was significantly more stupid looking than the baby from Resurrection. It was horrible. The last 20 mins really tanked the film for me.
@@ScrimpBoatI appreciated the idea of it, but it tanked the movie for me too. We just got done watching the Xenomorphs get slaughtered with ease and made a joke of, and now we are moving on to a new baddie. Left a sour taste.
The company seems to be very compartmentalized. Not everyone knows all the secrets.
Yeah, was thinking that that type of op would be seriously buried, and most likely not something that would be responded to quickly if it went dark.
I almost screamed "USE THE SAVE STATION!" out loud in the theater
_Enemies nearby_
😂
This was at theaters? I thought it was a str8 to Netflix or Hulu movie..u can tell I don't watch television or trailers..I happened to catch this online movie streaming for free
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that
Thank god somebody else noticed it! Also I like how the one guy used the red torch like a flare to draw off the facehuggers. I love doing that in isolation
The plant had a permeant storm. Said 0 hours of light, which is why people didn't know the station was there and why they hadn't seen the sun.
Oh come on... Im not buying into this. The year is 2100-something and you say people cant see whats above their heads because of storms?! Cmon man - do I have to elaborate it more...? 😊
@@tamastarczy6262watch the movie before you make dumbass statements lol. They literally don’t see the sun until they break atmo in the ship.
I don’t buy it. Mainly because they would probably have some satellites above the permeant storm to at least communicate with other outposts and the corporation heads when needed. Not sure how the it works, but I assume Weyland leases out Terraforming equipment so the people on the planet would still need to communicate with the managers off planet. And 100% you know the corporation would sacrifice the entire colony on that planet to grab stuff from the science station.
Ok but the corporation knows it's there.
A side not: Not to be nitpicky but you'd want to have a highly dangerous science lab a bit more isolated from a population. Not orbiting a habitted planet.
@@tamastarczy6262 That's a joke, right?
Joe's enthusiasm in this whole review sequences was awesome. Did anyone else catch the similarity between the hybrid and the engineers?
@ 2:18, No one would recognize the name "Rook" because his name was "Ash" in the first film. It's not the same android, just the same model. So we would definitely need to see his face to know.
indeed it was ash from alien, and rook is just another synth of the same model, dunno how they did not realize it.
I just don't understand why they didn't use practice effects, as opposed to CGI. They coulda used a dummy or a puppet. I mean, he's literally an android, it's okay if it doesn't look 100% real. Just build an android looking prop that resembles Ash. The voice is what really matters.
@@GoalieOfUnholy agreed
15:00 I dont think Joe got it but I love that Key and Peele reference OJ made
At the beginning, they say a synthetic sacrificed three people in the mines
There were three sacrifices made by the characters, the dude dying for rain, Andy not opening the door for the pregnant lady, and the three being abandoned by asshat dude
It is the prometheus black goo, they literally show the urn the goo was in and play the prometheus theme while they do it. Also when the alienbaby goes to the pregnant mom he is Nursing off her mutated breasts, that's what the weird slime was that she was freaking out about. And that "get away from her" line really is the one scene that sucked me out of the movie with how forced it was and made no sense.
Andy learned the yo Bxtch line from the cousin who called him that once they strapped in to take off. Andy was affected by being called that.
Everyone is forgetting that the Bjorn character was like “you bitch” to Andy earlier in the movie, and Andy saying “you bitch” at the end was not just a call back to Aliens but showing him learning from before, trying to be tougher. It worked for me.
Oh shit you're right, thanks for making this already great movie even better lmao. Can't wait to rewatch it!
Ah yeah I forgot about that - rehashing the full line just felt cringey and forced in the moment, but yeah it was actually somewhat set up earlier in the story.
Good catch!
Me too, loved that line and even the delivery
Still completly unnecessary fan service
dude the xeno who cought the girl is STILL the same one that was in the elevator shaft. it got OUT of the way of the falling elevator, THEn the synth takes it out.
The baby monster wasn't eating the mother, it was being a baby. That's why in an earlier scene we see the mother touch her chest and finding a weird material instead of milk. Weird
One part of the movie that was off to me was how the Android goes from not being able to force open a door when they are 'stuck' in the face hugger room, to suddenly being able to hold up a entire elevator like he is iron man.
Synthetic adrenaline?
Beacause of "the upgrade" from the other synthetic
@filipedecarvalho2723 yeah that was prettty much how i rationalised it to myself in the end, that his body was always physically capable of that kind of strength, but he needed the "software" upgrade from the micro disk thing lol
After he received the upgrade he mentions that it’s already repairing his defect muscles. His body posture is noticeably better too.
@@michaelfielding6666 in the beginning Andy was a damaged synthetic android, Bjorn mentioned that Rain's father found Andy in a rubbish dump and Rain's father reprogrammed him. So clearly Andy was physically weaker in the beginning, he was literally discarded as trash before Rain's father found him, so he must've had some mechanical and software problems that rendered him physically weak and redundant to the company, that's why he was damaged and discarded. The chip that was later implanted in Andy not only upgraded his software, but also healed his motor functions. This was all mentioned in the movie.
Apparently Angry Joe has only seen "Aliens" because there's a fucking ENGLISH ACCENT in every other film! (That said, the cousin was almost impossible to understand)
yeah that marble mouthed british drunk mumbler lol
My biggest beef with Aliens (which I loved) was the fact the colonists had been there for over twenty years but never done a flyover of the planet, let alone their immediate surroundings and only discovered a gigantic alien spacecraft within driving distance of their base.
Prometheus and Covenant took place before ALL of the Alien movies. Weyland died a long time ago
Correct. We are simply seeing the Company Weyland Utani and the synthetics continuing with his directive like we saw with David in Prometheus before he became obsessed with the black goo and going off to pursue his own goals
@@TheFallofTheEleventh I feel like that makes no sense. Weyland didn't know about the black goo beforehand and since everyone on Prometheus died how would the company find out?
@@liveac3694 they found the genetic code for the black goo while they were experimenting on the alien. The android Ash tells them this when explaining it to them
@@TheFallofTheEleventh Yeah but why were they looking for it and how did they even know what they were looking for? No one could have known about the black goo since all the Prometheus crew died.
@@liveac3694 they weren’t specifically looking for the black goo. They were simply looking for different ways of advancing human evolution and expanding humanities lifespan so that they could survive expanding throughout the galaxies. The android that was cut in half explains this to the crew and how the scientists that were examining the Xenomorph stumbled across the genetic code for the black goo.
Correction: The android in THIS movie was Rook, who is the same kind of android as the one from the first movie. The android from the FIRST movie was Ash.
yea just like Bishop and David. Same robot model, not the same robot.
Bishop is Wayland in robot form Wayland made robots in his image.
@@ganggang3788 You mean David and Walter
Also, Ash and Rook are both Science officers
Overall i'd give it about an 8/10. I was really engaged, the ratcheting up of the situation was done really organically to increasingly impossible levels and it all worked.
The callback line when the Andy jumps down the shaft shooting the alien, you can tell the director wanted nostalgia applause to breakout and the whole theater was so silent haha. That didn't work at all. My only other issue is the characters weren't super fleshed out beyond the main which is a small complaint but they could have at least been more likeable and/or given us a bit more time with them.
It was awesome, loved how it mixed elements of previous Alien movies with the game Alien: Isolation.
the movie was actually inspired by Alien Isolation.
Recognized that generator handle immediately.
So bland and unoriginal, like modern Hollywood. It was boring and dragged too long
Alien Isolation did it better. Trim some of the fat/repetitive gameplay loops and put that on the big screen and it would have been way better.
@@Eagl3xStrik3and it wasn't scary at all.
Are we sure AJ is a real Aliens fan? The name of the android in the first Alien is Ash not Rook so even Joe's suggestion of having just the name tag on Ian Holm's android does not work. Also none of you guys even know the timeline for Prometheus? It takes place way before the first Alien. The timeline is as follows:
Prometheus
Alien Covenant
Alien
Alien Romulus
Aliens
...and so on.
Dude they just saw it calm down also who really wants to remember Prometheus and all that terrible timeline stuff
@@Awesomenes74 the fact is Joe got even the first Alien movie wrong is a joke. For a self proclaimed fan with pulse rifle and Colonial Marines props he should be familiar even with the worst of the franchise. From this review it shows remembers Alien Resurrection more when he said Dominique Pinon's Santa Claus line from that movie lol. Maybe Joe is secretly a bad movies fan. 😆
@@personatodoget your panties out of a bunch of
yeah i was thinking the same when he got confused with the chronology....
AJ clearly is a hardcore fan of Aliens only, dude just loves all the weapons and gadgets introduced in the film, other than that he is a casual viewer.
Hmm as huge Aliens fan I feel you should know the chronological order of the films. Prometheus is the 1st of the story. Weylan is gone
I think the whole “they would approach you with caution if you have a gun” thing is from alien isolation like when you have a flame thrower the AI alien will kinda creep up instead of a full assault
It also adds a nice little detail to further show that these are intelligent beings, and not just mindless monsters
the ian holms cgi android wasn't ash, the android from alien, just the same type. it makes sense lore-wise since androids do look the same, but completely agree that the cgi was poor and they could have done something to cover up his face and mask it, or do like bishop in alien 3, practical and make his face messed up but recognizable
Given the movie had a $80 million budget, I’d say it’s perfectly fine 🤷♂️ and you coulddd say he’s damaged so maybe that messed with his facial movement (bit of a cop out ik but still)
@@Bluescillabut it’s in the same universe.. ofc it’s going to be the same type of equipment.. that’s like complaining about the pulse rifles
An interview with Fede said it was part animatronic. He got blessing from Ian's widow and family though.
Why not have the Lance Hendricksen (Bishop)?😊
@@dillbulgogi Yeah, that’s what I was thinking it was. They had an animatronic for the original Alien movie as well, so it fit.
That guy who hated androids called Andy a bitch at the start, only noticed the second viewing, which is why he ends up saying that.
Prometheus is the prequal to all the Alien movies.
Exactly. Prometheus and Covenant happen before Alien. Covenant is 2 decades before Alien (and maybe was supposed to explain how the Derelict arrived at Alien - but personally, I'm glad they didn't)
@@bryanbeck4177covenant is a Wayland safety video on what not to do in deep space
Yeah but nobody liked it, but we’re stuck with it because it was what Ridley Scott wanted.
Alien: Earth about to sunset your whole fanboy existence.
I really love the attention to detail that the baby wasn’t even part human.
It was part engineer, part xenomorph. Which is perfect, because engineers revered the xenomorph.
As for the mom, it came back to try to nuzzle its mom but she pushes it back and it pisses her off. That being said, she was lactating goo. Fucking horrifying
No, they didnt revere Xenomorphs. Xenos were a byproduct of their Pathogen
@@Czejenesku there is already lore established that they did. Case in point, the mural on the wall in Prometheus showed the xenomorph in a Christ pose with the lifecycle being shown with engineers being attached by facehuggers. I wish I remembered the video that describes it, but I’d look for anything along the lines of “Prometheus explained”.
@@Dabomb2394Twin Perfect Prometheus makes Sense videos.
@@Czejenesku actually they kind of did. Like the person above me stated, in Prometheus we see on the Engineer Mural that there is some kind of creature that looks like a Xenomorph yet is much more natural and smooth in its appearance and doesn’t have all the bio-mechanical parts, sort of like the Deacon creature we see at the end of Prometheus.
The black goo is meant to be an advanced accelerant that vastly increases the speed of evolution. The Engineers were potentially trying to re-create the Xenomorph type creature which is what we see with the Engineer consuming the black goo before falling into the Earth’s water supply and creating the spark that leads to humanity’s creation at the start of Prometheus but instead of getting the Xenomorph or the Deacon, they created us which is why they despise the Humans when the characters in Prometheus meet an Engineer.
David then became obsessed with the idea of becoming a creator in the same way Humans created synthetics and how Engineers created Humanity. He finds the Engineers technology and experiments with the black goo and began performing his own research, creating variants of the black goo such as the plant life in Alien: Covenant that releases the Spores that function the same way as the Black Goo. This is what leads to the Xenomorph having the bio-mechanical design to it. David then managed to create the eggs for his Xenomorph and at the end of Alien: Covenant he hijacks the ship of colonisers to use as experiments to create the Alien Queen which is what then leads to full self sustainability and reproduction cycle for the Xenomorphs. This is the version of the Alien that Weyland captures at the beginning of Alien: Romulus and they use that to synthesise the black goo and create the facehuggers
Man, this was just alien Resurrection, and here is my proof:
A group of mercenary-type characters with a synthetic guy, go to a a ship where they are researching and testing on the findings of the Nostromo. The Aliens escape killing the complete crew and developing a nest.
The mercenaries need to abandon the Ship because it´s about to explode, meantime the artificial person turns against the survivor to protect his mission.
When the crew is about to escape the ship a new Alien-Hybrid creature is born and proceeds to eat it mother.
The Alien Hybrid is ultimately killed by piercing a hole into the ship, where is sucked and almost disintegrated into space.
Dude...
Don’t know if anyone commented about this. But when the brash teen tried electrocuting the first alien in the pod on the wall. You notice this had an effect when it was fully grown. It’s the same alien that saved the main girl in the falling elevator seen. The aliens head had electricity running through its head.
I just thought that was a cool detail.
woahhh good catch, gonna rewatch and look out for this
11:10 The pulse rifle does make the same sound from Aliens, they just boosted it. You should go back and watch Aliens.
Joe speaks out of his ass most of the time. He’s terrible at reviewing movies
1. It is the black liquid from Prometheus 2. Rook wasn’t in the first movie, I think you mean Ash.
I liked when the computer said there was 47 minutes left before the space station collides with the planet's ring it actually felt like that was the allotted amount of time in the movie. I hate when movies say there's like 5 minutes left before something happens it takes like 20 minutes.
34:26 Weyland died in Prometheus and that was before Alien and definitely before this movie
This movie is waaaay after Prometheus AND Covenant. There is more than one Weyland, it's a family. It goes Prometheus, Covenant, Alien, Romulus, Aliens, A3, Resurrection.
The actual Wayland died in Prometheus. Bishop from Aliens and Alien 3 is a robot of Wayland.
@@ryans413 The one who looked like that, yes. But they are a family dynasty.
Where's Aliens VS Predators? In that timeline.... huh!!
@@Endoe.McKronic If you included it in the canon, it would be the very first.
@@Endoe.McKronic It's not apart of the alien films.
The planet was a mining colony. They had a Matrix McGuffin where the sky is blacked out. They don't explain this, but show it when they enter orbit before boarding the ship.
Also Prometheus and Covenant take place 20 to 30 years before the first Alien movie. Everything else that has come out, including this takes place after.
That was without a doubt the most horrifying disgusting creature Alien has ever made. It's like they brought Giger back from the dead to make something so utterly unnerving. I mean seriously when it popped up and said "I'm science officer Rook" we all screamed what a jumpscare.
Andy learned the yo Bxtch line from the cousin who called him that once they strapped in to take off. Andy was affected by being called that.
The take off scene was ripped off from Aliens, where the ship landed on the planet.
Alex is right. The PredAlien from Alien Vs Predator 2 does infect pregnant women, leading to multiple stomach bursting Xenomorphs.
What you said about the Xeno morphs not killing them so they could be impregnated it’s something I’ve always thought made alien three so stupid. The alien knew Riley had a queen but still killed everybody. And there is a very limited number of people that should’ve been kept alive to be host the Queen’s eggs. The whole movie went against the aliens survival instinct.
The Dog Alien in generally seemed less intelligent and more animalistic compared to standard Xenomorphs. My head canon is that since its host was a dog(or ox if you prefer the assembly cut), it inherited a weaker level of intelligence compared to Xenomorphs who had human hosts. Alien Resurrection also established that Xenomorphs have a genetic memory ability, as in they literally share some of the memories from their hosts, which is why they’re so intelligent for only being alive for a few hours. It was also used to explain why clone Ripley shared some of the same memories of the original Ripley. Because the cloning technology was imperfect, it resulted in a slight genetic slicing for both Ripley and her Queen embryo. This allowed clone Ripley to inherit the genetic memory ability, which is used to explain why Ripley have some of the original Ripley’s memories.
@@windowsVD hmmm. That’s a pretty good point. So smart enough not to kill Riley but still dumb enough to not leave any hosts for the queens eggs. Now we just have to figure out how the egg and face hugger got on the Salaco
I think everyone loves Alien and Aliens and most people dislike or hate Alien 3, Resurrection and covenant. Then people are pretty split and either love or hate Prometheus. Point being I think they mixed all the best elements of the stuff people like and mixed it together in a very good way. Good movie overall and the last act…. Never getting my wife pregnant after that lmao
Get her pregnant, just don't offend your alien baby by pushing its face away like the mother in this movie. Cherish and nurture your alien baby into becoming the ultimate killing machine.
nope alien 3 is split. some love her tragic ending
I don't hate alien 3, sure it was dumb but resurrection was a lot more dumb because it just reverts her sacrifice from alien 3.
Rehash like a mf. Even the big final creature WAS DONE BEFORE
It was the force awakens of alien
Member berries and not much else
Peter Wayland died at the end of Prometheus in 2093 which is decades before Romulus.
No fellas, Prometheus and alien covenant take place way way before any of the alien movies
There's no reason to make Rook look like Ian Holm (Ashe). It adds nothing to the show. Had they just used a new face, we wouldn't have known if this android was good or not, and that would have been more interesting. Worst CGI in a largely good looking movie.
Guys, the Prometheus takes place some 30 years before the Alien, so by this point (in the Romulus) Wayland was dead for half a century. (Romulus takes place 20 years after Alien)
My biggest lore issue was that, in Aliens, nobody believes Ripley's story and think she's crazy. However, in Romulus, Weyland Utani is already balls deep in researching the Xenomorphs which means they have records upon records of data on the species while Ripley is in cryo. Makes no sense and creates a massive plot hole
Well, yes. We know they know about the Alien as far back as the original movie with the special order stuff and the crew being expendable. That's just the suits bullshitting Rips
I think it’s clear the company knows, they’re just playing drum and writing Ripley off
I would say the opposite, it explains their interest in Aliens throughout the films. In relation to Ripley, they could have simply lied, or the junior staff could have been unaware.
@@BRALLUS Weyland Utani being tightlipped and shady to their own employees is not new.
@@BRALLUS the Nostromo and its cargo was a write off from years before. The Platoon being dispatched to LV426 was a routine response to check on colonies that go dark. First they send a platoon and then they send a whole effing task force loaded for bear if the Platoon goes dark as well.
Angry Joe for the love of god please let Alex speak and stop cutting him off, it took 15:22 for him to chime in and you cut him off immediately. Let the boys have more to say, same with OJ.
I think the mom may have been lactating slime 🤢
Yep replies said it’s nutrition for her “baby”
That's what I got, and then the weird hybrid thing starts to stick its extra mouth out and it certainly looks like he's about to try and breastfeed from her with it
I don't think Rook's face was that bad though it would have been better and got less criticism if they just had his face projected on a 2D screen, like the robots in Gears of War.
The station has no transponder active. The only reason the kiddie crew noticed it was they randomly looked in the right direction to pick it up. Initially, they thought it was a derelict spacecraft, not a defunct station out of it's orbit.
I'm 90% sure either Rook or MUTHOR set the orbit of the station to get close enough to the colony in order to tempt someone to investigate, so they could continue the experiment
Reverse engineering the black goo was what your brain couldn't spit out.😂😂
How do you as a big Alien fan don’t know that Rook is not the robot from the original, but just the same model. The robot from Alien is called Ash. He explodet in the Nostromo obviously.
Yeah these guys seem pretty clueless really, like they never even watched half the Alien films or something
I honestly think its just a slip and he meant the same actor.
oh my god people like you are so annoying like being a fan that is always right gets you a prize or something
I thought it was Ash too but then again I am not a die-hard Aluen fan.
Blind to subtext, we know its rook, we call him ash because that's what the produces were going for, inspired by.
I thought the mother would give birth to an Alien queen and they would have to fight it.
Or the mother herself would transform into the Queen and fight her own child.
Or a big last Xeno was still alive and the epic battle starts vs the born monster.
Man...
So many possibilities.
Each of them would give the film a huge boost.
The film now is a solid 7.
Those options would make it 10/10 for sure.
Lore wise, isn't it:
Prometheus: 2093
Covenant: 2104
Alien: 2122
Romulus: 2142
Aliens: 2179
Weyland dies in Promethues.
Also, was really hoping Romulus tied in with Aliens. Weyland Corp captures the survivors, cryo-sleep them and ship them off with Facehuggers with the 70.Colonists going to LV-426.
It’s already explained in Aliens that the Xenomorphs/ outbreak started because a crashed derelict ship was sitting close to where humans were trying to terraform and live. Nothing happened for 20 years until (if I remember correctly) a man returned back to the compound. Presumably with an alien already implanted in him. That was patient zero. And explains how the labs in Aliens already had test tube Facehuggers and such.
They might do a tie in of one of the novels ( I can’t remember the name) similar concept but it’s Ripley getting picked up by a mine crew and it ends with her getting memory wiped so it didn’t fuck up the continuity. Maybe a chance to bring Signory back one last time idk
Lv426 already has the crashed ship to infect them
Lev426 has the ship from Alien one?
@@Chris-gw2xg no it was another derelict ship that the scientist and humans failed to see before they started colonizing. They built an effective community but someone left it. Came back with what is presumed a facehugger. They became patient zero. Alien outbreak wiped the community.
Angry Joe show is the one channel that has me walking away understanding even less during spoiler reviews. He had got to do a better job with explaining.
Yea, the movie is much more coherent and makes much more sense than whatever this mess of an explanation was 🤣 He could at least know Prometheus is the 1st one and than OJ with his ´facts´ from the internet somehow finds out that Prometheus is after Alien 4 ? Like you can´t make this shit up.
he jumps around like someone who remembers the scenes as they pop in his head. what do you want? for him to audiobook the whole movie. spoiled ass. his retelling is just like friends coming out of the theater and talking about it. how about go get a ticket and watch the movie first and then watch a spoiler video broke ass
They have no idea what they are talking about that's why.
i am screaming 😭😭😭
At the end when the sister injects herself with the fluid what would’ve been a lot cooler is that is how the alien queen was born. Since this movie is taking place between Alien and Aliens it would’ve made sense. They never explain how the alien queen was formed. The sister is pregnant and that’s why the alien queen is the only alien that can lay eggs since it came from a woman who is pregnant and injected herself.
The anachronistic technology in Prometheus/Covenant and Ridley messing with the xenomorph’s evolution confuses things visually, but the series timeline is:
Prometheus (30 years before Alien)
Covenant (20 years before Alien)
Alien
Isolation (15 years after Alien)
Romulus (20 years after Alien)
Aliens (57 years after Alien)
Alien 3 (same year as Aliens)
Alien Resurrection (200 years after Alien 3)
Lots of this is'explained' (hand waves) in the Alien RPG. The Prometheus tech us high tech science stuff. The normal old 70s tech is done for 2 reasons. 1st that tech is not susceptible to EMP which helps it survive theirs and sit from other alliances so magnetic tape is safer. 2nd is cheaper for mass production on the normal vessels. We should 'assume' that Prometheys tech still exists for Elites... hey at least it's something to grasp onto 😂😂
i believe the explanation for the WY station will be answered in the Marvel comic one shot coming out comic in october
My favorite "homage" to Alien is that the 'countdown timer' is in real time! I'm ADD enough that when a movie puts a timer in I check my watch just to see if it's going to be accurate. The first Alien 'countdown' timer happened in real time...and the timer in this is in real time as well! It's exactly 20 minutes from the 'T-minus 30 minutes until impact' to 'T-minus 10 minutes' and then it hits the asteroid field right on time. It gives me a strange sense of satisfaction when movies do this.
I think you're all VERY confused about the timeline of these movies. All 3 of you were completely off here...
Prometheus takes place between 2089-2093 (Weyland dies at the very end and faked his death years before 2093)
Alien Covenant takes place in 2104
Alien takes place in 2122
Alien Romulus takes place in 2142 (Weyland Yutani's official death has already been 49 years at this point, so Rook saying he died makes sense (it's not the same android as in the first Alien. That model was called Ash) How he knows the exact details of Weylands death... no idea. Probably found the crashed Engineer ship somewhere in between films off screen) He even calls is the 'Prometheus project' in the film.
Aliens and Alien 3 both take place in 2179
Alien Resurrection takes place in 2381... OJ saying Resurrection comes before Prometheus... It's set almost 300 years after Prometheus 😂
Now that is tied to Prometheus. We gotta find out how they even get contact with the pathogen. Still wondering what happened to David and the covenant.
Same. Hopefully we get to find out.
They got the black goo from the alien, they extracted it from them.
They extracted it from the xenomorph and the facehuggers. They explained in the movie
21:40 honestly I think either the station just completely lost contact after the station shut down/everyone died, or they were hoping someone would board it after all hands were lost so aimed it to orbit the planet to hopefully salvage it/someone would board it (which btw the only reason they got the signal from it was because they went so far up in the air in one of the flights, I assume normally its only company ships going in and out of the planet)
You know.. a alien breastfeeding in my alien movie was not on my bingo card.
The “plot hole” that no one at Wayland went looking for the missing installation is just not believable.
THIS!!! The fucking droid clearly was working with WY so a MONTH during the space station fuck up they would have sent back up immediately
Rook mentions it would take like 6 months or 6 years (can’t remember which) for a team to get out there. The station still had power so it hadn’t been fucked for that long. I get the feeling they made a breakthrough with the injectors then the Alien broke out, all hell broke lose, somebody made a decision to fuck it all and put the station on a path with the nearest place it would be destroyed.
They explicitly said people at wayland *were* going to be looking for the missing installation. They just found it first.
@@MikeJones-qn1gzi actually think he said it would take 6 months just for them to receive the message. Then you have to add all the travel time on top of that.
@@MrTask4ceyeah just saw it, he states that it’ll take 6 months for them to get the signal so it hasn’t been that long since the station went offline.
But that really doesn’t explain why WY on the ground didn’t send out a team to investigate prior to it starting a path to the astroid belt. I assume that the station was floating off into space and just got stuck in the orbit of said planet.