I'M SORRY! ⚠ It turns out during the rendering of the video, for some reason the original Alien film wasn't included! I'm sure you all know how that played out by now though. FYI It takes place between Covenant & the 40th Anniversary, where of course the Nostromo is destroyed, Ripley is lost to space, and the Big Chap gets some well earned rest. Once again, sorry about that, but please fill in the gaps! 😢
Call me crazy, but Prometheus got me into the Alien franchise. I watched it a few years ago on a whim, not knowing anything about it. So the ending truly shocked me. From there i was all in. Currently trying to beat Alien Isolation on hard mode and it's intense and incredible. Thank you for such dedication and hard work on this lore dive!
Everyone hates on Prometheus, and obviously it's not without its faults, but I still think it's a phenomenal movie. The acting is A-tier, particularly from shaw. I love the xenomorphs but I also love how the movie went a completely different route and wasn't reliant on monsters from previous films
The amount of times people have "accidentally" released the xenos is kind of crazy. You'd think at some point people would start to think "hey, maybe this isn't a good idea 🤔"
yes the decisions make zero sense - the “what if the goo helps us somehow” literally never seemed to pay off in any way whatsoever. i also don’t understand why the synths were pro xeno. 🤷♀️
The whole story and mechanics make very little sense once you start analyzing them rationally. In many movies, the aliens are resistant to a barrage of marine rifle bullets. In other movies, the main character can take down dozens of aliens with a single rifle. It's completely inconsistent. Everything that happens if for the plot. Just ignore the gaping plot holes.
From my understanding, covenant doesn't feature the homeworld, but another colony. Those aliens waiting for David to land are too small to be engineers. You see a good size comparisons when the new crew gets there. They walk past the aftermath, and a couple bodies.
@@foundsomecashherei agree with 90% of what you said but Ridley Scott did say in an interview that it was an engineer colony. Not the home world. That's why none of the architecture or technology has that HR Geiger look like the other ships and suits.
Why would Shaw want to travel to a colony to ask why they wanted to erase humans? She’s going to their homeland. Even if David took control along the way, why would he want to go to a colony? Paradise is their homeland. That’s where they are going. We’re seeing one small spot on the planet so you can’t assume that’s not the homeland because what you saw wasn’t advanced enough. Compare Amazonian tribes vs London. Same planet.
Just found confirmation that Paradise is the home world. The following was meant to be the sequel to Covenant but was canceled by the studio: “Ridley Scott hinted at a storyline involving the return of the Engineers. In this envisioned sequel, the Engineers would have found their planet decimated by the Black Goo Pathogen, leading to an investigation by new characters, including the Engineers themselves. The narrative could have taken us to different planets - either the Engineers' home planet as seen in "Alien: Covenant," Origae-6, or perhaps even LV-426 from the original "Alien." This sequel would likely have bridged the gap between the "Prometheus" series and the original "Alien" film, potentially revealing the origins of the derelict spacecraft and the doomed Engineer found by the crew of the Nostromo. Perhaps the LV-426 derelict ship would have just crashed landed a few years before the events of Alien, and contained a familiar Engineer.”
I agree with this interpretation, but remember that it is ultimately just an interpretation. There is no one true solution to the question, as the movie does not address it. I’ve heard the interviews and early drafts, but the story stands as it is released. It’s possible that it’s the home world, and that the differences in appearance (eyes, size, apparent technological advancement) could be due to something other than them being a seeded species. To name a few, the engineers we meet in Prometheus could be soldiers, genetically altered to serve a specific purpose, while the people on planet 4 are farmers or something. It’s also possible the after the events that killed the engineers we meet in Prometheus, only a few engineers survived, and after the millennia, a different culture arose. Imagine the Fallout universe, where new religions and communities ascend, built on something completely different than the society that preceded them.
Lv233 was a storage depot for the Engineer's, the ship didn't crash it was stocking up on the weaponized black goo when one of them dropped a container and the whole team that was sent to wipe us out was taken out except for one in stasis...
I know right? I feel like this guy is just telling me a play-by-play that he read on Wikipedia. Lol. Only little bit into the video and it's so many mistakes that I can't even count.
Weyland yutani is pure organized incompetence. You would think they would have realized the zenomorph was a dead end and best left alone for the good of humanity after the first two catastrophes. But nooooooo they kept pursuing it until now its basicly a reoccuring natural disaster. Good job.
I agree with you totally, and it shouldn't even need to be questioned. But I know hundreds of things, if not thousands of things that are causing the same damage the xenos threaten. Not, of course, of the same scale but achieving the same results. More than a couple are on the same scale of the xenos, worldwide nuclear fallout for one. Leaving only cucarachss alive to roam and own the world, maybe that's the secret meaning behind the Alien franchise... beware the real nemesis of human kind.. the only and original enemy, out of sight/thought (mostly) and sorely underestimated. I hope that this is a joke that I am making and not a rotten foretelling of our future. Seriously if a nuclear holocaust takes everything out, then the cucaracha are laughing and dancing on all our graves. Gloating and yelling at us in insect language; we told you we would conquer you all, it's just a matter of time and finite resources... Actually I'm totally fine if it does go down like that, at least it's morbidity hilarious and marvellously unique that not many ppl would guess that ending. Viva La Cucaracha 😂
I think I can give the short play-by-play most people are looking for: 1. Engineers create life on Earth. They leave directions to their home world. 2. Over time, Engineers become disillusioned with humans and decide to scrap the project. They send a ship to their moon, which they use as a storage depot, and prepare a death ship filled to the brim with a bio-weapon coined "the black goo." 3. There's an accident, the black goo spills, and all Engineers aboard except for the captain are mutated and killed. The ship just sits there for 2000 years. 4. 2000 years pass. During this time, the Engineers do not make a second attempt top annihilate Earth for whatever reason. Weyland-Yutani has advanced FTL travel and cryosleep. They launch the Prometheus mission, a mission for the Engineer's home world guided by the directions the Engineers left behind hundreds of thousands of ears ago. 5. The Prometheus crew arrive on the Engineer's moon. They discover the crashed ship. Unsurprisingly, most of them meet the same fate as the Engineers did 2000 years ago. Only two crew members survive, Shaw and David. David is Weyland-Yutani's synthetic (android), but has the capacity to develop emotions. 6. David and Shaw find a second Engineer ship on the moon. This ship also has a massive payload of black goo but is unmanned for whatever reason. They take it on a short trip back to the Engineer's home world. 7. David exterminates the Engineer's home world using their own bio weapon. David becomes very interested in the black goo and how it can mutate into so many different forms. 8. David eventually becomes obsessed with creating the perfect organism. He experiments on the wildlife in the Engineer's home world using more black goo. He betrays Shaw and begins experimenting on her until she dies. Experimenting on human DNA seems to provide the best results. It is during these experiments that David creates the first facehuggers, his most promising creation. But with Shaw dead, he no longer has a proper host. He sends out signals in hopes of luring in more humans. 9. Eleven years later, Weyland-Yutani is sending out another ship, the Covenant, to colonize a distant planet. On their way they pick up David's transmissions and take the bait. They go to the Engineer's home world instead of their original mission. One of the crew members is another synthetic named Walter, who looks identical to David. 10. Upon landing, the crew of the Covenant are infected by the now-mutated fungus and animal life of the Engineer's home world. All hell breaks loose. David arrives and rescues some of the survivors. He then leads them to an Engineer temple. 11. There, David lures a crew member into being impregnated by one of his facehuggers. The first xenomorph is born (though some people call it the "Praetomorph"). 12. David, disguising himself as Walter, flees the planet with what little remains of the crew. David sends transmissions back to Weyland-Yutani about the results of his experiments, including details on the facehuggers and the xenomorph. Weyland-Yutani is intrigued. How David knew Weyland-Yutani would be intrigued rather than horrified is anyone's guess. David, having access to thousands of human colonists in stasis, has lots of material to experiment with. He chooses one host to become the "queen." 13. This is the part that requires the most imagination. Our best guess is that David was given the resources by Weyland-Yutani to further develop his experiments on a planet called LV-246. He creates his own nest there, complete with the "queen" he promised. The only weird part is that somehow a freaking ENGINEER SHIP shows up on LV-246, stumbled upon David's lab, and gets infected. 14. Weyland-Yutani is doing all sorts of stuff these days, like colonizing and terraforming distant planets. They are also in the business of cloning. They send out the Nostromo for a routine mining expedition but sneak a synthetic on board named Ash, who has the secret directive to pick up David's life form on LV-246. 15. You probably know the rest. The Nostromo crew gets infected, gives birth to a Xenomorph, and all hell breaks loose. After this Xenomorph is blown out of the airlock, it is picked up by another Weyland-Yutani ship called Romulus. It wreaks havoc on Romulus as well until it is finally shot down. Nevertheless, the crew aboard Romulus use contact with that xenomorph to breed or perhaps clone facehuggers. 16. Considering Romulus a lost cause, Weyland-Yutani wants to try again to bring back a Xenomorph or a facehugger from LV-426, now a terraformed and colonized planet. They enlist the only survivor of the Nostromo, Ripley, for whatever reason and send a crew there under the guise of "eliminating it" when actually they're going there to bring back a sample. 17. All hell breaks loose. LV-246 practically ends up getting nuked from orbit. 18. Several hundred years later, Weyland-Yutani is still at it. They have successfully captured a bunch of xenomorphs and have even perfected cloning technology, combining xenomorph DNA with Ripley's DNA nearly flawlessly. At this point in the future, Earth is a barren wasteland. --- These are the only questions I have left: 1. Why were the Engineers sitting on their thumbs for 2000 years after they already decided to eliminate Earth? Was it just because their first attempt went so disastrously wrong that they never attempted a second? 2. How on earth did an Engineer ship end on Lv-426? Was it an avenger pursuing David after what he did to their home world? 3. Why send Ripley to LV-246 again? They say it's because she's the only one with the expertise to survive an encounter with a xenomorph but that only makes sense if their stated mission was correct (eliminate the aliens) when their secret, ACTUAL mission was to bring back a sample. Our only guess is that there are multiple competing factions within Weyland-Yutani itself. 4. Why was David so confident that Weyland-Yutani would be interested in his horrific experiments? Something deep in his code assuring him that it was the founding intent behind Weyland-Yutani's exploits? Please let me know anything I missed.
A "short" play by play LMAO. Why did you waste your time writing all this? People don't want to read a novel. Especially on a video already explaining the "play by play." You spent all that time, writing out the story for the worst alien movie.... for what? "That most people are looking for" Lmao no. No one is looking for this. Quit thinking youre so special and gifted
Within the past few weeks I’ve listened to every Alien audiobook available (TH-cam, Audible, all of it). This really helped me put some visuals with certain storylines. I’ve always loved the franchise; but never really delved into it. Thank you for putting this together! Really helps with the timeline after reading / listening to so many separate stories.
At what point do we acknowledge that "the complete annihilation of the human species" is more believable a W-Y mission statement than literally anything else?
I'd have to just quit trusting them altogether and entirely disown or boycott anything and everything that they're the expedition leaders on. Oh, WY is going to some cosmic backwater for "research" and "exploration"? No, they already know there's something there, and they're going to collect it, or, attempt to collect it, and it's most likely a living Xenomorph, and WY will show up just.. WOEFULLY uderprepaired and overconfident.
I still think the whole concept of David's experiments makes no sense at all. There was a giant wall carving of proper xenomorphs in Prometheus, showing they already existed.
I figure he’s recreating them. Not creating them originally. Thats how i make sense of it all. My thinking is the engineers lost the ship of the original eggs on lv426.
He didn’t create them. He made his own version. They’re not on the same planet as the 1979 Alien. So the real Xenomorphs are still there waiting for Ripley and her crew
That's the thing, Prometheus and Covenant are clearly misguided efforts in trying to expand on anything. It tried to be the origin at the same time it is pointless, it tried to introduce new concepts just to forget about them, it tried to be a prequel but the technology is clearly more advanced. Is a mess, an even the explanation of "but David just recreate them" is just shitty, whats the point of following this character doing this stuff if the xenos that are the villains of the franchise are not part of his creations at all? Also black goo doesn't fit Alien, one of the most interesting concepts of the original creature is its rapid growth and segmented stages of life, black goo throws out of the window and just a little bit of the substance can create an xeno style creature, making David's experiments idiotic, why the hell he wants to make this new version with eggs when clearly the neomorphs being able to come to life from spores are way more efficient and dangerous?
@@CoracaoAcidental98 I wish they hadn't tried to explain it all. The idea that there are just unknowable terrors waiting for people to stumble across is far more scary imo. It all being linked back to humanity and synthetic humans just makes the Galaxy feel a bit smaller and less full of mystery. If anything, I think it detracts from the original mythos
He definitely only made his own variations of Xeno’s, It doesn’t seem like the 2 prequels were actually creation of them, just one of humanity’s first encounters, it never goes public & still keeps the mystery aswell as dives deeper in the Wayland yutani corp
@@jmz2144 I would recommend that you watch the movie one more time! There where no crashed spaceship, but multiple spaceships where parked in the underground installment. It was suggested by Janek that it was some type of military base set up by the Engineers to build biological weapons, before an incident compromised their operation. I think he miss spoke and was referring to the crashed Juggernaut on the moon Acheron (LV-426) where Ripley first encountered the alien.
movies like terminator, alien, predator, etc. are for some reason the only type of movie i can never get into, but i love the stories & lore of the movies, and this is by far the best video on those topics. i hope you get the recognition & following you deserve soon. it’s only a matter of time before the subscriber number matches the amazing quality of these videos.
Covenant was so bad. I wanted to like it so much, but every single decision made writing and filming that movie is absolutely baffling. It's really that bad.
Not as much as the Prometheus crew screws up. Both crews are made of morons. At least Capt Yannick goes out like a chad and saves humanity even if no one will ever know about it. The Covenant captain is an idiot and sticks his head over a xenomorph egg and it goes predictably to pot.
This was a ton of work. Wow. Outstanding sequential summary of the Alien saga. Just thorough enough, solidly edited clips accompanying story, captivating narration delivery. I actually watched start to finish, as opposed to just listing. I didn't get bored or wander off once. A timeline that includes the games *and* the comics is legendary. You're a real one.
I liked Romulus, but i really wanted the rest of the story of david, and i want to see more of the engineers, maybe a movie about them would be great, to learn more about them and what there goals are.
come on now bro, there is still time to reupload and add the Alien (1979) events, you can't have a video called "The Complete Alien Story" when you miss THE FIRST AND ORIGINAL MOVIE IN THE FRANCHISE.
I was super confused that there was no mention of Ripley up until her daughter was introduced and we were just assumed to know her mom and why she’s important with zero explanation.
32:33 they aren’t engineers, they are engineers creations, and that wasn’t paradise. Engineers could not produce progeny naturally anymore. There were women and children. That’s first, second, if you watch carefully, they are gathering in an ancient, looking city similar to Athens, or some similar ancient city. Amongst all the ancient buildings, one piece of technology from engineers is there almost as if it was there, just for the engineers, e.g. their gods. It’s a herald of their arrival, which is why they all gathered. They all gathered as enamored and grateful that their guards were back. This was the intended goal for humanity, obviously. Humanity being the failed creation, and these human like creatures, being the successful one that adapted with their surroundings as opposed to adapting without their surroundings, like humanity. They achieved equilibrium, whereas we did not, and created our own things to adapt. They were awaiting their guards so that they could take their next step towards evolution. I’m sure. What they got instead was David and the pathogen. This is also evident in what David says, whilst talking to Walter. He said, “look at all of my works and despair.” He’s not just talking to humanity, he’s speaking to the engineers. The engineers created the black goo as an attempt of recreating the original deacons blood and decided to make it a bio weapon to destroy humanity. The deacons blood was their salvation, because they lost their ability to procreate, they could then seed worlds with life with their own DNA as it deconstructs DNA, and then reconstructs it into new life. This was why the sacrifice was needed. If you notice in Prometheus, it is not the black goo he is ingesting, it’s gold in color. All that aside, the humans are David’s Gods and the engineers are humanities gods. David is trying to play God which is synonymous with evil in Christianity, a common thread in this franchise. David plays the devil, and he creates demons to devour humanity, alive, along with their gods. Hence, David is the god of xenomorphs, The new form of them anyways. A Weaponized form of deacon. He wants to destroy all of the old gods to make way for the new gods. Praetomorphs, The precursor to xenomorphs is a play and the praetorians, The guard of the living, God of Rome, the emperor. There is no emperor, so what’s the living God are they guarding? David.
Easily the best breakdown of the alien universe ive seen .. i think at this point the producers need to consider making a TV series or movie based on the the engineers and the black goo origins
Engineers: A perfect being is one that devotes its life to selfishness *Creates humans* Humans: A perfect being is one like us that is immortal and able to create “life” to serve them. *Creates Androids* Androids: The perfect being is one that is near unkillable, a perfect hunter and kills indiscriminately. *Creates face huggers and xenomorphs* On a serious note, you can see the change in tone in the franchise as the video progresses. You have prometheus which tried to dive deep into the creation of life while giving a prequel to the creation of the Xenomorph. So its probably the Then Covenant which shows they learned people enjoyed the horror aspect of the franchise but wanted to keep that same plot of a prequel from Prometheus. Ultimately not delivering on either. But both covenant and Prometheus in my opinion are the heaviest when it comes to lore Then you have pure horror in my opinion. Then it becomes a franchise where they try to balance horror and action but tend to lean far too heavy into the action. The best movies of the franchise always lean heavier in the horror. I personally want to know more about the engineers. The creation of humans and the stuff David did to finish his creation. He is an android…we never see him die and the Xenomorphs practically thrive after. Either give me that or someone pick up the Dead Space IP. Leave it to EA to never utilize their best IPs
Dude this was such a nice video! I always struggled with the linear story and trying to figure out where it takes place lol thank you for the hard work! This video must have been insane to put together.
"You found Prometheus' fire, and you carried it back home" Man I was *not* expecting a name-drop for Prometheus that far ahead in the timeline and I have no idea if that was purposeful or not on part of the writers of the movie/comic, but regardless that is damn poetic to where I've rewinded that part of the video several times 👏 That's an amazing callback to the original events that caused all this death and chaos. The original crew including David and Elizabeth Shaw found Prometheus' fire, and Cruz was the final bearer of the torch to bring it down to Earth. Absolutely poetic to me.
My favorite part about this lore video is you speak with the same tone whether the lore is from a comic book, religious theme, or straight from the movie. Making it all sound like it's equally important makes this universe feel absolutely enormous.
The thing I JUST realized is that…Prometheus and 1979 Alien don’t take place on the same planet!! They’re SEPARATE planets! So EVERYTHING from Alien up to now isn’t tainted. David created his own spin off of Xenomorphs while the Original Xenomorphs are still alive on a different planet from where Prometheus took place.
1:42:45 GEEEE! NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT SCENARIO! Waylan-Yuatani is like Resident Evil's Umbrella Corporation. Even after years of its dissolution, its after effects linger and haunts humanity.
I actually liked Daniel's story, despite the problems with Covenant, Tennessee was a great support character and I wish they could have done more with their movies moving forward
Here I thought the alien movies were small. Little did I know they have a huge awesome world lore almost as big as starwars. This makes me want to watch all the movies in chronological order
Alien: River of pain on audible is a must listen for all Alien fans, its set between Alien and Aliens and tells the story of what happened to the mining colony on planet Acheron lv-426 (Newt's colony) before Ripley and the Marines get there. Give it listen if you haven't already, its definitely a worthy addition to the Alien timeline that not too many people talk about.
@@decium1846actually no it’s not in the alien franchise. They have hyperspace. Ripley’s shuttle didn’t have a hyperdrive however and then there’s Ash screwing with the computer to make sure she’s never found. Hyperspace still takes time but it only takes like 17 days to reach Lv-426 which is like 40 something light years away if I remember. They go to sleep to save resources and also hyperspace kinda screws with the human brain if they’re awake for it.
You would think that after all these failed attempts to bring a xenomorph back to earth using deception on an unknowing crew they would realize that if you want a job done right you gotta do it yourself 😂
That is our timeline tho.. They are basically the god since they created us.. Sent one of their own to set us on the right path (Jesus) and we crucified him.
That is in fact what they are. This whole “I’m not a soldier, I’m a Marine,” thing is a typical crayoneater misunderstanding of standard English and is an example of some stupid boot brainwashing performed by overzealous Marine DIs, God love them, I think they’re great. whose hardon for the Corps is several sizes bigger than their brain buckets that doesn’t stand up to the least bit of linguistic, historical or critical scrutiny. The US Marine Corps originally drew its name, traditions and practices from the British Marines, which existed then and now in the British Regimental system of arms, where each Regiment maintains its own colors, uniform and tradition, and formerly, training. Depending on the type of regiment, upon finishing or training, each type of specialty soldier in a specialist corps regiment was given a specialist titles, to distinguish himself from a regular Private in a line regimen of foot. Back then, it included Rifleman, Grenadier, etc but today, British equivalent ranks to Private include Troopwr for the Cavalry Regiments (formerly horse, now armored and aviation), Gunner, Signalman, Sapper, Guardsman, Fusilier, etc, to include Marine. ALL of them collectively are collectively “soldiers.” In fact, in a bit of irony, in the UK, the original birthplace of its the Royal Marine Commandos (all Royal Marines are Commandos, have the longest initial training period of any service on earth by far and are actually what US Marines only think they are or wish they could be) are known as “the thinking man’s soldiers, while the Airborne paratroopers are widely thought of as a pack of attack gorillas. Furthermore, in English, the soldiery of a nation refers to men under arms as a whole, soldiering skills referring to all skills relevant to military tasks on terra firma. That’s what “soldier” means in any other language, be it one related to English such as French or German or completely unrelated linguistic isolate, like Korean or Swahili. So this whole “Marines are not soldiers,” thing is sheer Marine stupidity and the height of linguistic folly, just like the whole Teufelhund thing. I speak German, go ahead and challenge me on this one, I dare you. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I still call my Devil Dog younger relatives that with affection, but much lore of the Marine Corps is just so much BS. The Corps has real heroes and traditions to look up to like Chesty Puller and SGM Porterfield to hail instead of spending hot air repeating made up bulkshit like Marinew aren’t soldiers and the Devildog bulkshit.
I was born in the mid 80s and enjoyed the first few movies as a kid. Gave me nightmares and still enjoy watching them. The newer movies felt like it wasn't the scary sci-fi type of movies I was use to. But after watching more of them and understanding that they all play a part in humans just trying to harness the power of a creature that can not be contained, I enjoy every bit I can watch. Thanks for this upload and the pinned comment cause I scrubbed through so many times looking for Alien.
Romulus had a def Cabin in the Woods vibe . Outcast (Andoid/Stoner) make it to the ‘end’ w the final girl, possibly apocalyptic outcome, outrageous deaths attributable to nasty corporation etc. Sigourney Weaver being in both franchises ices my point. PS NOT a complaint; Romulus w CITW is my Halloween double header 😊😊
Umm where is Alien? :) you went straight from Covenant to the 40th Anniversary Shorts (awesome for including those by the way) and Isolation without covering the Nostromo incident
Always loved this lore! The engineers and everything from the deleted scenes (see Krofts talks about movies on youtube) the 1st to scripts that were rewritten over told so much more lore ! I highly recommend looking into it
This was a great video , I’ve seen other timelines that go for in depth, but this one I can show my friends who aren’t invested into the alien franchise from the dark horse comics, and seeing alien 3 and resurrection in theatres. I was lucky enough that an AMC in Times Square would show older films and aliens AND aliens were being shown and I got the full experience even with some obvious first timers there. Great nod!
I mean that’s pretty much every franchise that is massive. Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the rings, Game of Thrones, Star Trek, Star Gate, Marvel, Batman,
1. All the information and context is in the movies and media. 2. If the movie has to plainly explain every motif, lesson, or plot, it makes the movie boring. 3. This video serves the purpose of condensing hundreds of hours of content. If you didn’t understand what was happening in the movies that is a comprehension problem.
I recently viewed Alien: Romulus and remember the Prometheus prequel before Alien. From what I know from all the Alien movies and games today, it was Peter Weyland's actions why everyone but Elizabeth Shaw and David died in the Prometheus mission to LV-226, and that happened again to the Nostromo later on LV-426. Ellen Ripley ended up the last survivor of the Nostromo after she destroyed the ship to stop a Zenomorph found its way aboard that ship, but her daughter Amanda was left to find her mother on her own, and eventually encountered the Xenomorph too in Alien: Isolation. Then Amanda Ripley died of old age by the time the last survivor of the Nostromo was found alive when she never could. Then Ellen Ripley encountered the same thing that gave her nightmares in Aliens, and found Newt hiding from the Xenomorphs at Hadley's Hope. Everything Ripley had done in Alien was to keep her daughter safe from the same thing that killed Newt's family, but with Amanda now dead in Aliens, her still-alive mother found Newt as Ripley's adoptive daughter after she rescued her from the Xenomorph Queen on the Sulaco. But tragically, Newt still died drowned in her cryostasis pod when a facehugger stowed aboard the Sulaco before she and Ripley went to the long sleep, Then Ripley sacrificed herself after another facehugger impregnated her in Alien 3. All of that was Peter Weyland's fault to begin with. Weyland-Yutani became just as bad for being obsessed with pursuing Mr. Weyland's legacy as to why Ash was aboard the Nostromo on LV-426 because of what the Prometheus found on LV-226 before.
I appreciate the effort you put in to give me a supercut of the most impactful parts of this series. I've been interested in _Alien_ for a bit but not interested enough to dedicate a dozen hours. Edited to add: your commentary is entertaining, keep doing what you're doing!
@@theguilloriousmind5832 It’s explained in an extended version of “Prometheus.” If I remember correctly, the Engineers actually take a human child to teach him their philosophies of selflessness and all that. Only for the humans to crucify him even he tried to preach The Engineers’ word.
Okay hold up in Prometheus David not secretly slip it into his drink. Id have noticed that weird action immediately. I also wouldnt honestly have full trust of any AI. Also the dudes peripherals would have noticed that finger dip. Android or no they're a synthetic, meant to be as sanitary as possible. They wouldn't risk just dipping their full fingertip in a cup by complete accident. Maybe only if they have an electric impulse that isn't meant to happen so I'd immediately ask if David is okay. Also I know that he was obviously drunk already. I'm just thinking to much. I'm sorry
The paradise planet was not the Engineers Homeworld, pay close attention, the people in that scene were not engineers but other humanoids created by the Engineers , that look more like engineers than humans.
man i absolutely LOVE this VHS filter type thing you got going on. Makes me feel like i have my old CRT TV on while im playing my N64 or gamecube on my smaller, 12 Inch tv thats just placed on the floor. (Im watching this on my 2nd monitor now.)
The big thing I got from Romulus is that they reverse engineer the black goo from big chap. From an Alien. They mention bow adaptable they are genetically. This raises an interesting question, if you take Prometheus etc at face value, it seems like the engineers created the black goo, which in turn creates the xenos. But what if that’s not the case, what if the engineers did exactly what the humans did in Romulus; what if they also reverse engineered it from something. There’s shots in Prometheus of a mural seemingly depicting xenos, showing they were something to he respected. If they were simply a bio weapon, why create a life cycle at all, why not just do what was shown in Covenant and have it melt people? To me the fact that through out, the face hugger to chest burster to alien liege cycle is always present tells me that it must be fundamental to the genetic code. In interviews Ridley Scott has said he couldn’t decide which way to take it, maybe what I’ve said isn’t canon, maybe David did create the xenos but Romulus leaves the door open for more. I personally love the idea that xenomorphs or something like them, something we haven’t seen it’s purest form are naturally occurring, the engineers found them, and used their ability to adapt to genetically engineer weapons and other things, and now humanity is doing the same, unaware they were both messing with power they couldn’t control.
Fifield and Millburn: There's an alien lifeform? Let's go the opposite direction. Also Fifield and Millburn: Ooh and alien lifeform, let's get close and play with it.
They wanted to synthesize and reproduce its biological advantages to jump-start humanity's evolution into the next stage; one that would make humans more suitable for space travel.
Aliens vs. Predator (also known as Aliens versus Predator, abbreviated AVP) is a comic book series published by Dark Horse Comics between 1989 and 2020 on an intermittent basis, written and drawn by various artists. Dark Horse also publishes the Aliens and Predator lines of comics. And not a single one of these comics were mentioned... so not every alien comic was taken into account as the title states
This franchise will end up requiring time travel / multiverse. Messing around jnside the only fully accounted for 57 years of lore is very stupid. There are no restrictions for storytelling once ripley escapes in Aliens.
It's about family when you think about it. Weyland and his robot child, and other much less impressive child. The engineers and their human children, Elizabeth and her son.
Why do they always take off helmets in these places? Even without knowing the black goo, you are on a new planet you dont know what your going to step on or breath in and literally every time something dangerous in the air goes into them. So dumb
Thank you for getting straight into the video and not waste our time with half an hour of appreciation galore, which is what the community tab is made for.
@natehammondtrio if ya look up a youtube Kroft talks about movies, he explains the original script written for the engineers movie Prometheus , its super interesting!
@@lou_gubrious almost any video about prometheus. He has a full love explained about engineers video, he has the first 2 drafts scripts and engineers dialogue explained videos as well, i recommend anything by kroft about engineers !
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I'M SORRY! ⚠ It turns out during the rendering of the video, for some reason the original Alien film wasn't included! I'm sure you all know how that played out by now though. FYI It takes place between Covenant & the 40th Anniversary, where of course the Nostromo is destroyed, Ripley is lost to space, and the Big Chap gets some well earned rest. Once again, sorry about that, but please fill in the gaps! 😢
I was so confused haha thanks for clarifying
Have you got any plans to add it in then reupload?
bruuuuh if you don't fix it
I was so lost like when does Amanda’s mother come into play???
Fix it.
Watching hour long videos just to forget everything right after
That’s more relatable than I’d like to admit
You need to stop smoking
No @@robertdyer339
Your brain is cooked I’m sure your under 21
@@robertdyer339what makes you think he smokes?
Call me crazy, but Prometheus got me into the Alien franchise. I watched it a few years ago on a whim, not knowing anything about it. So the ending truly shocked me. From there i was all in. Currently trying to beat Alien Isolation on hard mode and it's intense and incredible.
Thank you for such dedication and hard work on this lore dive!
Not crazy. I watched Alien and was disappointed by the second. Prometheus answered the questions I had and added sooooo much more.
Everyone hates on Prometheus, and obviously it's not without its faults, but I still think it's a phenomenal movie. The acting is A-tier, particularly from shaw. I love the xenomorphs but I also love how the movie went a completely different route and wasn't reliant on monsters from previous films
Same Prometheus was the one that started it all for me idk why ppl hate it so much
@@nubiancaynes2128🤣🤣🤣 lame
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So basically, the entire lore consists of a tug of war between synthetics/Weyland/engineers trying to get xenos to earth and humans saving the day
Except AVP puts the Aliens on earth anyway for some reason.
Extremely repetitive and super boring if you think about. AvP the only interesting/innovative franchise imo
Wuuhh …wut?😯
@@frankthetank8050 yea alien franchise dumb but predators were cool
What is difference between xeno and praeto morphs
Who’s here after Romulus? 🙋♂️
Hah I do that
lots of people
Well considering this came out yesterday there’s really no one that could’ve been here before 🤦🏽♂️
Nice movie
Maybe there's some that haven't seen it watching this
The amount of times people have "accidentally" released the xenos is kind of crazy. You'd think at some point people would start to think "hey, maybe this isn't a good idea 🤔"
yes the decisions make zero sense - the “what if the goo helps us somehow” literally never seemed to pay off in any way whatsoever. i also don’t understand why the synths were pro xeno. 🤷♀️
But then the movie wouldn’t happen.
The whole story and mechanics make very little sense once you start analyzing them rationally. In many movies, the aliens are resistant to a barrage of marine rifle bullets. In other movies, the main character can take down dozens of aliens with a single rifle.
It's completely inconsistent. Everything that happens if for the plot. Just ignore the gaping plot holes.
I want an Alien movie mixed with diabolical AI; basically Mother releases the xenos or turns against the humans
Never underestimate the power and determination behind greed
From my understanding, covenant doesn't feature the homeworld, but another colony. Those aliens waiting for David to land are too small to be engineers. You see a good size comparisons when the new crew gets there. They walk past the aftermath, and a couple bodies.
@@foundsomecashherei agree with 90% of what you said but Ridley Scott did say in an interview that it was an engineer colony. Not the home world. That's why none of the architecture or technology has that HR Geiger look like the other ships and suits.
Why would Shaw want to travel to a colony to ask why they wanted to erase humans? She’s going to their homeland. Even if David took control along the way, why would he want to go to a colony? Paradise is their homeland. That’s where they are going. We’re seeing one small spot on the planet so you can’t assume that’s not the homeland because what you saw wasn’t advanced enough. Compare Amazonian tribes vs London. Same planet.
Just found confirmation that Paradise is the home world. The following was meant to be the sequel to Covenant but was canceled by the studio: “Ridley Scott hinted at a storyline involving the return of the Engineers. In this envisioned sequel, the Engineers would have found their planet decimated by the Black Goo Pathogen, leading to an investigation by new characters, including the Engineers themselves. The narrative could have taken us to different planets - either the Engineers' home planet as seen in "Alien: Covenant," Origae-6, or perhaps even LV-426 from the original "Alien." This sequel would likely have bridged the gap between the "Prometheus" series and the original "Alien" film, potentially revealing the origins of the derelict spacecraft and the doomed Engineer found by the crew of the Nostromo. Perhaps the LV-426 derelict ship would have just crashed landed a few years before the events of Alien, and contained a familiar Engineer.”
@@foundsomecashhereyou are correct. See my two responses. 👍
I agree with this interpretation, but remember that it is ultimately just an interpretation. There is no one true solution to the question, as the movie does not address it. I’ve heard the interviews and early drafts, but the story stands as it is released.
It’s possible that it’s the home world, and that the differences in appearance (eyes, size, apparent technological advancement) could be due to something other than them being a seeded species. To name a few, the engineers we meet in Prometheus could be soldiers, genetically altered to serve a specific purpose, while the people on planet 4 are farmers or something. It’s also possible the after the events that killed the engineers we meet in Prometheus, only a few engineers survived, and after the millennia, a different culture arose. Imagine the Fallout universe, where new religions and communities ascend, built on something completely different than the society that preceded them.
Lv233 was a storage depot for the Engineer's, the ship didn't crash it was stocking up on the weaponized black goo when one of them dropped a container and the whole team that was sent to wipe us out was taken out except for one in stasis...
I know right? I feel like this guy is just telling me a play-by-play that he read on Wikipedia. Lol. Only little bit into the video and it's so many mistakes that I can't even count.
@@robertabugelis3962Don't let a kid explain stuff. This kid is 100% wrong. Thumbs down.
Even Gods are clumsy, an inescapable human trait it seems.
Landing ships don't cleave valleys into rock tho .. and if the goo didn't come from the ship, where did it get stored?
Funny how the Engineers ignore their mistake---Xenomorphs to go after Humanity.
Weyland yutani is pure organized incompetence.
You would think they would have realized the zenomorph was a dead end and best left alone for the good of humanity after the first two catastrophes.
But nooooooo they kept pursuing it until now its basicly a reoccuring natural disaster.
Good job.
I agree with you totally, and it shouldn't even need to be questioned. But I know hundreds of things, if not thousands of things that are causing the same damage the xenos threaten. Not, of course, of the same scale but achieving the same results. More than a couple are on the same scale of the xenos, worldwide nuclear fallout for one. Leaving only cucarachss alive to roam and own the world, maybe that's the secret meaning behind the Alien franchise... beware the real nemesis of human kind.. the only and original enemy, out of sight/thought (mostly) and sorely underestimated.
I hope that this is a joke that I am making and not a rotten foretelling of our future. Seriously if a nuclear holocaust takes everything out, then the cucaracha are laughing and dancing on all our graves. Gloating and yelling at us in insect language; we told you we would conquer you all, it's just a matter of time and finite resources...
Actually I'm totally fine if it does go down like that, at least it's morbidity hilarious and marvellously unique that not many ppl would guess that ending. Viva La Cucaracha 😂
My thing is if the world is already screwed from either less resources or w.e who are they using the alien against and why do they want a army of them
Yeah like what did he think he could weaponize. Xenomorph’s proved over and over they couldn’t be controlled.
Power corrupts the soul and the mind to the point of rationalizing insanity .
They definitely do not care about humanity. It’s for sure just corporate greed and an obsession with playing God
I think I can give the short play-by-play most people are looking for:
1. Engineers create life on Earth. They leave directions to their home world.
2. Over time, Engineers become disillusioned with humans and decide to scrap the project. They send a ship to their moon, which they use as a storage depot, and prepare a death ship filled to the brim with a bio-weapon coined "the black goo."
3. There's an accident, the black goo spills, and all Engineers aboard except for the captain are mutated and killed. The ship just sits there for 2000 years.
4. 2000 years pass. During this time, the Engineers do not make a second attempt top annihilate Earth for whatever reason. Weyland-Yutani has advanced FTL travel and cryosleep. They launch the Prometheus mission, a mission for the Engineer's home world guided by the directions the Engineers left behind hundreds of thousands of ears ago.
5. The Prometheus crew arrive on the Engineer's moon. They discover the crashed ship. Unsurprisingly, most of them meet the same fate as the Engineers did 2000 years ago. Only two crew members survive, Shaw and David. David is Weyland-Yutani's synthetic (android), but has the capacity to develop emotions.
6. David and Shaw find a second Engineer ship on the moon. This ship also has a massive payload of black goo but is unmanned for whatever reason. They take it on a short trip back to the Engineer's home world.
7. David exterminates the Engineer's home world using their own bio weapon. David becomes very interested in the black goo and how it can mutate into so many different forms.
8. David eventually becomes obsessed with creating the perfect organism. He experiments on the wildlife in the Engineer's home world using more black goo. He betrays Shaw and begins experimenting on her until she dies. Experimenting on human DNA seems to provide the best results. It is during these experiments that David creates the first facehuggers, his most promising creation. But with Shaw dead, he no longer has a proper host. He sends out signals in hopes of luring in more humans.
9. Eleven years later, Weyland-Yutani is sending out another ship, the Covenant, to colonize a distant planet. On their way they pick up David's transmissions and take the bait. They go to the Engineer's home world instead of their original mission. One of the crew members is another synthetic named Walter, who looks identical to David.
10. Upon landing, the crew of the Covenant are infected by the now-mutated fungus and animal life of the Engineer's home world. All hell breaks loose. David arrives and rescues some of the survivors. He then leads them to an Engineer temple.
11. There, David lures a crew member into being impregnated by one of his facehuggers. The first xenomorph is born (though some people call it the "Praetomorph").
12. David, disguising himself as Walter, flees the planet with what little remains of the crew. David sends transmissions back to Weyland-Yutani about the results of his experiments, including details on the facehuggers and the xenomorph. Weyland-Yutani is intrigued. How David knew Weyland-Yutani would be intrigued rather than horrified is anyone's guess. David, having access to thousands of human colonists in stasis, has lots of material to experiment with. He chooses one host to become the "queen."
13. This is the part that requires the most imagination. Our best guess is that David was given the resources by Weyland-Yutani to further develop his experiments on a planet called LV-246. He creates his own nest there, complete with the "queen" he promised. The only weird part is that somehow a freaking ENGINEER SHIP shows up on LV-246, stumbled upon David's lab, and gets infected.
14. Weyland-Yutani is doing all sorts of stuff these days, like colonizing and terraforming distant planets. They are also in the business of cloning. They send out the Nostromo for a routine mining expedition but sneak a synthetic on board named Ash, who has the secret directive to pick up David's life form on LV-246.
15. You probably know the rest. The Nostromo crew gets infected, gives birth to a Xenomorph, and all hell breaks loose. After this Xenomorph is blown out of the airlock, it is picked up by another Weyland-Yutani ship called Romulus. It wreaks havoc on Romulus as well until it is finally shot down. Nevertheless, the crew aboard Romulus use contact with that xenomorph to breed or perhaps clone facehuggers.
16. Considering Romulus a lost cause, Weyland-Yutani wants to try again to bring back a Xenomorph or a facehugger from LV-426, now a terraformed and colonized planet. They enlist the only survivor of the Nostromo, Ripley, for whatever reason and send a crew there under the guise of "eliminating it" when actually they're going there to bring back a sample.
17. All hell breaks loose. LV-246 practically ends up getting nuked from orbit.
18. Several hundred years later, Weyland-Yutani is still at it. They have successfully captured a bunch of xenomorphs and have even perfected cloning technology, combining xenomorph DNA with Ripley's DNA nearly flawlessly. At this point in the future, Earth is a barren wasteland.
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These are the only questions I have left:
1. Why were the Engineers sitting on their thumbs for 2000 years after they already decided to eliminate Earth? Was it just because their first attempt went so disastrously wrong that they never attempted a second?
2. How on earth did an Engineer ship end on Lv-426? Was it an avenger pursuing David after what he did to their home world?
3. Why send Ripley to LV-246 again? They say it's because she's the only one with the expertise to survive an encounter with a xenomorph but that only makes sense if their stated mission was correct (eliminate the aliens) when their secret, ACTUAL mission was to bring back a sample. Our only guess is that there are multiple competing factions within Weyland-Yutani itself.
4. Why was David so confident that Weyland-Yutani would be interested in his horrific experiments? Something deep in his code assuring him that it was the founding intent behind Weyland-Yutani's exploits?
Please let me know anything I missed.
A "short" play by play LMAO. Why did you waste your time writing all this? People don't want to read a novel. Especially on a video already explaining the "play by play."
You spent all that time, writing out the story for the worst alien movie.... for what?
"That most people are looking for"
Lmao no. No one is looking for this.
Quit thinking youre so special and gifted
Thanks! 😄
Thanks for saving me almost 1h of video hahaha
@@I_am_a_cat_shut up I was looking for this
@@I_am_a_cat_ Holy shit, what a loser
No, Prometheus is very clear that the engineer ship did not crash on LV223. That was a base, not a crash site.
Within the past few weeks I’ve listened to every Alien audiobook available (TH-cam, Audible, all of it). This really helped me put some visuals with certain storylines. I’ve always loved the franchise; but never really delved into it.
Thank you for putting this together!
Really helps with the timeline after reading / listening to so many separate stories.
Just as I thought humanity was created by Handsome Squidward
At what point do we acknowledge that "the complete annihilation of the human species" is more believable a W-Y mission statement than literally anything else?
What is difference between xeno and praeto morphs
I'd have to just quit trusting them altogether and entirely disown or boycott anything and everything that they're the expedition leaders on.
Oh, WY is going to some cosmic backwater for "research" and "exploration"? No, they already know there's something there, and they're going to collect it, or, attempt to collect it, and it's most likely a living Xenomorph, and WY will show up just.. WOEFULLY uderprepaired and overconfident.
I still think the whole concept of David's experiments makes no sense at all. There was a giant wall carving of proper xenomorphs in Prometheus, showing they already existed.
I figure he’s recreating them. Not creating them originally. Thats how i make sense of it all. My thinking is the engineers lost the ship of the original eggs on lv426.
He didn’t create them. He made his own version. They’re not on the same planet as the 1979 Alien. So the real Xenomorphs are still there waiting for Ripley and her crew
That's the thing, Prometheus and Covenant are clearly misguided efforts in trying to expand on anything. It tried to be the origin at the same time it is pointless, it tried to introduce new concepts just to forget about them, it tried to be a prequel but the technology is clearly more advanced.
Is a mess, an even the explanation of "but David just recreate them" is just shitty, whats the point of following this character doing this stuff if the xenos that are the villains of the franchise are not part of his creations at all?
Also black goo doesn't fit Alien, one of the most interesting concepts of the original creature is its rapid growth and segmented stages of life, black goo throws out of the window and just a little bit of the substance can create an xeno style creature, making David's experiments idiotic, why the hell he wants to make this new version with eggs when clearly the neomorphs being able to come to life from spores are way more efficient and dangerous?
@@CoracaoAcidental98 I wish they hadn't tried to explain it all. The idea that there are just unknowable terrors waiting for people to stumble across is far more scary imo. It all being linked back to humanity and synthetic humans just makes the Galaxy feel a bit smaller and less full of mystery. If anything, I think it detracts from the original mythos
He definitely only made his own variations of Xeno’s, It doesn’t seem like the 2 prequels were actually creation of them, just one of humanity’s first encounters, it never goes public & still keeps the mystery aswell as dives deeper in the Wayland yutani corp
Slight adjustment, (2:12) the Engineer ship didn't crash on LV223, that is the planet where they housed and loaded the black goo containers.
Just whent to comments to also state this obvious fact. Thank you!
thank you, they were landed there to load up on weaponized version of the black goo
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Source?
@@jmz2144 I would recommend that you watch the movie one more time!
There where no crashed spaceship, but multiple spaceships where parked in the underground installment.
It was suggested by Janek that it was some type of military base set up by the Engineers to build biological weapons, before an incident compromised their operation.
I think he miss spoke and was referring to the crashed Juggernaut on the moon Acheron (LV-426) where Ripley first encountered the alien.
@@jmz2144 The movie
movies like terminator, alien, predator, etc. are for some reason the only type of movie i can never get into, but i love the stories & lore of the movies, and this is by far the best video on those topics. i hope you get the recognition & following you deserve soon. it’s only a matter of time before the subscriber number matches the amazing quality of these videos.
same! I've been watching all the Alien lore here on YT, but never watched any movie, only Prometheus, I think xd
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@@ggiuliacostayou don’t really know what you’ve been missing. What a shame.
@@NotLikeUs17 oh I do, and I’d gladly skip any gore and suspense anytime heH
Honestly I thought the same. But I rewatched Alien then watched a newer terminator and changed my mind 🤷 and here we are
Havent seen alien covenant and i just gotta say, the entire crew really just fucked up so bad in like less than 10 hours😂😂😂
Covenant was so bad. I wanted to like it so much, but every single decision made writing and filming that movie is absolutely baffling. It's really that bad.
Not as much as the Prometheus crew screws up. Both crews are made of morons. At least Capt Yannick goes out like a chad and saves humanity even if no one will ever know about it. The Covenant captain is an idiot and sticks his head over a xenomorph egg and it goes predictably to pot.
@@Shjeshjemy thoughts exactly, it had me shouting at the screen😂
@@TheNicoliyahtruth.
Hey I liked it. At least for the David/Walter bits. I didn’t really care much for the human crew, but the David/Walter bits elevated the movie for me.
This was a ton of work. Wow. Outstanding sequential summary of the Alien saga. Just thorough enough, solidly edited clips accompanying story, captivating narration delivery. I actually watched start to finish, as opposed to just listing. I didn't get bored or wander off once. A timeline that includes the games *and* the comics is legendary.
You're a real one.
I liked Romulus, but i really wanted the rest of the story of david, and i want to see more of the engineers, maybe a movie about them would be great, to learn more about them and what there goals are.
Let’s get David’s story finished already
come on now bro, there is still time to reupload and add the Alien (1979) events, you can't have a video called "The Complete Alien Story" when you miss THE FIRST AND ORIGINAL MOVIE IN THE FRANCHISE.
I was super confused that there was no mention of Ripley up until her daughter was introduced and we were just assumed to know her mom and why she’s important with zero explanation.
Yessss
I love that Edris Elba's character is just named Edris as well. 😂
With such a cool name there really is nothing that could be better.
the actor"s name is Idris Elba
this documentary deserves 11 Oscars ❤❤❤
32:33 they aren’t engineers, they are engineers creations, and that wasn’t paradise. Engineers could not produce progeny naturally anymore. There were women and children. That’s first, second, if you watch carefully, they are gathering in an ancient, looking city similar to Athens, or some similar ancient city. Amongst all the ancient buildings, one piece of technology from engineers is there almost as if it was there, just for the engineers, e.g. their gods. It’s a herald of their arrival, which is why they all gathered. They all gathered as enamored and grateful that their guards were back. This was the intended goal for humanity, obviously. Humanity being the failed creation, and these human like creatures, being the successful one that adapted with their surroundings as opposed to adapting without their surroundings, like humanity. They achieved equilibrium, whereas we did not, and created our own things to adapt. They were awaiting their guards so that they could take their next step towards evolution. I’m sure. What they got instead was David and the pathogen. This is also evident in what David says, whilst talking to Walter. He said, “look at all of my works and despair.” He’s not just talking to humanity, he’s speaking to the engineers. The engineers created the black goo as an attempt of recreating the original deacons blood and decided to make it a bio weapon to destroy humanity. The deacons blood was their salvation, because they lost their ability to procreate, they could then seed worlds with life with their own DNA as it deconstructs DNA, and then reconstructs it into new life. This was why the sacrifice was needed. If you notice in Prometheus, it is not the black goo he is ingesting, it’s gold in color. All that aside, the humans are David’s Gods and the engineers are humanities gods. David is trying to play God which is synonymous with evil in Christianity, a common thread in this franchise. David plays the devil, and he creates demons to devour humanity, alive, along with their gods. Hence, David is the god of xenomorphs, The new form of them anyways. A Weaponized form of deacon. He wants to destroy all of the old gods to make way for the new gods. Praetomorphs, The precursor to xenomorphs is a play and the praetorians, The guard of the living, God of Rome, the emperor. There is no emperor, so what’s the living God are they guarding? David.
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Wayland Utani got around the ethics of human trials by just sending an android who has no problem killing everyone
No joke just finished watching the movie and got home!! was looking for a recap lmao.
Easily the best breakdown of the alien universe ive seen .. i think at this point the producers need to consider making a TV series or movie based on the the engineers and the black goo origins
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I love how the Bishop androids are always bros
If there were anyone I'd trust to help fight a Xenomorph infestation, it'd be Lance Henriksen.
Engineers: A perfect being is one that devotes its life to selfishness
*Creates humans*
Humans: A perfect being is one like us that is immortal and able to create “life” to serve them.
*Creates Androids*
Androids: The perfect being is one that is near unkillable, a perfect hunter and kills indiscriminately.
*Creates face huggers and xenomorphs*
On a serious note, you can see the change in tone in the franchise as the video progresses.
You have prometheus which tried to dive deep into the creation of life while giving a prequel to the creation of the Xenomorph. So its probably the
Then Covenant which shows they learned people enjoyed the horror aspect of the franchise but wanted to keep that same plot of a prequel from Prometheus. Ultimately not delivering on either.
But both covenant and Prometheus in my opinion are the heaviest when it comes to lore
Then you have pure horror in my opinion.
Then it becomes a franchise where they try to balance horror and action but tend to lean far too heavy into the action.
The best movies of the franchise always lean heavier in the horror.
I personally want to know more about the engineers. The creation of humans and the stuff David did to finish his creation. He is an android…we never see him die and the Xenomorphs practically thrive after.
Either give me that or someone pick up the Dead Space IP. Leave it to EA to never utilize their best IPs
Dude this was such a nice video! I always struggled with the linear story and trying to figure out where it takes place lol thank you for the hard work! This video must have been insane to put together.
"You found Prometheus' fire, and you carried it back home"
Man I was *not* expecting a name-drop for Prometheus that far ahead in the timeline and I have no idea if that was purposeful or not on part of the writers of the movie/comic, but regardless that is damn poetic to where I've rewinded that part of the video several times 👏
That's an amazing callback to the original events that caused all this death and chaos. The original crew including David and Elizabeth Shaw found Prometheus' fire, and Cruz was the final bearer of the torch to bring it down to Earth.
Absolutely poetic to me.
The definition of insanity. WayU keeps doing the same things over and over and over and over again even tho they know the aliens can’t be controlled
My favorite part about this lore video is you speak with the same tone whether the lore is from a comic book, religious theme, or straight from the movie. Making it all sound like it's equally important makes this universe feel absolutely enormous.
The thing I JUST realized is that…Prometheus and 1979 Alien don’t take place on the same planet!! They’re SEPARATE planets! So EVERYTHING from Alien up to now isn’t tainted.
David created his own spin off of Xenomorphs while the Original Xenomorphs are still alive on a different planet from where Prometheus took place.
Fell asleep listening to this. Woke up sweating, thinking I had a Royal egg about to burst out of me 😮
1:42:45 GEEEE! NOTHING CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT SCENARIO!
Waylan-Yuatani is like Resident Evil's Umbrella Corporation. Even after years of its dissolution, its after effects linger and haunts humanity.
Amazing stuff man. The amount of work that goes into something like this is huge, but for viewers like me, genuinely appreciated
I actually liked Daniel's story, despite the problems with Covenant, Tennessee was a great support character and I wish they could have done more with their movies moving forward
I like to imagine mary and joseph raising a full grown engineer like it's a toddler.
Do I already know all of the alien lore? yes, will I still watch this? Also yes
Here I thought the alien movies were small. Little did I know they have a huge awesome world lore almost as big as starwars. This makes me want to watch all the movies in chronological order
Wondering if we'll ever see a successful Weyland mission.
Alien: River of pain on audible is a must listen for all Alien fans, its set between Alien and Aliens and tells the story of what happened to the mining colony on planet Acheron lv-426 (Newt's colony) before Ripley and the Marines get there. Give it listen if you haven't already, its definitely a worthy addition to the Alien timeline that not too many people talk about.
Damm. Ripley never got back with her daughter.
Space travel in the alien world is so slow. Gotta travel, 70 years later..welp my kids died of old age.
@@decium1846actually no it’s not in the alien franchise. They have hyperspace. Ripley’s shuttle didn’t have a hyperdrive however and then there’s Ash screwing with the computer to make sure she’s never found.
Hyperspace still takes time but it only takes like 17 days to reach Lv-426 which is like 40 something light years away if I remember. They go to sleep to save resources and also hyperspace kinda screws with the human brain if they’re awake for it.
You would think that after all these failed attempts to bring a xenomorph back to earth using deception on an unknowing crew they would realize that if you want a job done right you gotta do it yourself 😂
Damn, they immediately crucified that engineer with no hesitation, kinda makes you think of what they did in our timeline.
That is our timeline tho.. They are basically the god since they created us.. Sent one of their own to set us on the right path (Jesus) and we crucified him.
Dude thank you, this is an amazing video! but why is the original Alien missing from this timeline?
Cool so I’m not the only one that caught things like “15 years after Ellen Ripley” or “since the nostromo incident”
Created by ChatGPT, that's why it's garbage and full of inconsistencies by implementing dumb comics instead of even the original movie
Marines HATE being called soldiers.
That is in fact what they are. This whole “I’m not a soldier, I’m a Marine,” thing is a typical crayoneater misunderstanding of standard English and is an example of some stupid boot brainwashing performed by overzealous Marine DIs, God love them, I think they’re great. whose hardon for the Corps is several sizes bigger than their brain buckets that doesn’t stand up to the least bit of linguistic, historical or critical scrutiny.
The US Marine Corps originally drew its name, traditions and practices from the British Marines, which existed then and now in the British Regimental system of arms, where each Regiment maintains its own colors, uniform and tradition, and formerly, training. Depending on the type of regiment, upon finishing or training, each type of specialty soldier in a specialist corps regiment was given a specialist titles, to distinguish himself from a regular Private in a line regimen of foot. Back then, it included Rifleman, Grenadier, etc but today, British equivalent ranks to Private include Troopwr for the Cavalry Regiments (formerly horse, now armored and aviation), Gunner, Signalman, Sapper, Guardsman, Fusilier, etc, to include Marine. ALL of them collectively are collectively “soldiers.”
In fact, in a bit of irony, in the UK, the original birthplace of its the Royal Marine Commandos (all Royal Marines are Commandos, have the longest initial training period of any service on earth by far and are actually what US Marines only think they are or wish they could be) are known as “the thinking man’s soldiers, while the Airborne paratroopers are widely thought of as a pack of attack gorillas.
Furthermore, in English, the soldiery of a nation refers to men under arms as a whole, soldiering skills referring to all skills relevant to military tasks on terra firma. That’s what “soldier” means in any other language, be it one related to English such as French or German or completely unrelated linguistic isolate, like Korean or Swahili.
So this whole “Marines are not soldiers,” thing is sheer Marine stupidity and the height of linguistic folly, just like the whole Teufelhund thing. I speak German, go ahead and challenge me on this one, I dare you. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I still call my Devil Dog younger relatives that with affection, but much lore of the Marine Corps is just so much BS. The Corps has real heroes and traditions to look up to like Chesty Puller and SGM Porterfield to hail instead of spending hot air repeating made up bulkshit like Marinew aren’t soldiers and the Devildog bulkshit.
Yup. Army has soldiers. Air Force has airmen. Navy has sailors. Space Force has guardians. Marine Corps has marines.
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Mars soldiers hate being called Mardiers
This is the only video I've ever watched that actually understood the beginning of Prometheus, all the others were wildly off base.
I was looking for such a video. So glad I got it.
I was born in the mid 80s and enjoyed the first few movies as a kid. Gave me nightmares and still enjoy watching them. The newer movies felt like it wasn't the scary sci-fi type of movies I was use to. But after watching more of them and understanding that they all play a part in humans just trying to harness the power of a creature that can not be contained, I enjoy every bit I can watch. Thanks for this upload and the pinned comment cause I scrubbed through so many times looking for Alien.
Romulus had a def Cabin in the Woods vibe . Outcast (Andoid/Stoner) make it to the ‘end’ w the final girl, possibly apocalyptic outcome, outrageous deaths attributable to nasty corporation etc.
Sigourney Weaver being in both franchises ices my point.
PS NOT a complaint; Romulus w CITW is my Halloween double header 😊😊
Saw Romulus the other day with my partner and really liked it!
Umm where is Alien? :) you went straight from Covenant to the 40th Anniversary Shorts (awesome for including those by the way) and Isolation without covering the Nostromo incident
Oh good, I’m not the only one who was confused about where the original Alien was.
Was about to say the same.
He's going in chronological order from the franchise's timeline
Promethues is older. The tech looks better because it's top of the line. Alien is newer, but kinda brokie.
There’s bit of information on Romulus with the things been, if you guy’s weren’t just skipping around for the next part.
Always loved this lore! The engineers and everything from the deleted scenes (see Krofts talks about movies on youtube) the 1st to scripts that were rewritten over told so much more lore ! I highly recommend looking into it
23:49 "Elizabeth jr" is willlllldddd
Amazing recap! Got home from the movies and was looking for a summary of some kind
This was a great video , I’ve seen other timelines that go for in depth, but this one I can show my friends who aren’t invested into the alien franchise from the dark horse comics, and seeing alien 3 and resurrection in theatres. I was lucky enough that an AMC in Times Square would show older films and aliens AND aliens were being shown and I got the full experience even with some obvious first timers there. Great nod!
Imagine leaving it to fans to explain your universe more than your movies themselves do.
I mean that’s pretty much every franchise that is massive.
Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the rings, Game of Thrones, Star Trek, Star Gate, Marvel, Batman,
1. All the information and context is in the movies and media.
2. If the movie has to plainly explain every motif, lesson, or plot, it makes the movie boring.
3. This video serves the purpose of condensing hundreds of hours of content.
If you didn’t understand what was happening in the movies that is a comprehension problem.
@@theepigramThank you, the other people really shouldn't have liked the original comment above
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@@AdriansCreatures some of the names u mentioned have source material while others had it after the film was made
Around 01:14:00 hours the story of Aliens starts and before that was River of Pain, but where is the movie Alien itself located?
I recently viewed Alien: Romulus and remember the Prometheus prequel before Alien. From what I know from all the Alien movies and games today, it was Peter Weyland's actions why everyone but Elizabeth Shaw and David died in the Prometheus mission to LV-226, and that happened again to the Nostromo later on LV-426. Ellen Ripley ended up the last survivor of the Nostromo after she destroyed the ship to stop a Zenomorph found its way aboard that ship, but her daughter Amanda was left to find her mother on her own, and eventually encountered the Xenomorph too in Alien: Isolation. Then Amanda Ripley died of old age by the time the last survivor of the Nostromo was found alive when she never could. Then Ellen Ripley encountered the same thing that gave her nightmares in Aliens, and found Newt hiding from the Xenomorphs at Hadley's Hope. Everything Ripley had done in Alien was to keep her daughter safe from the same thing that killed Newt's family, but with Amanda now dead in Aliens, her still-alive mother found Newt as Ripley's adoptive daughter after she rescued her from the Xenomorph Queen on the Sulaco. But tragically, Newt still died drowned in her cryostasis pod when a facehugger stowed aboard the Sulaco before she and Ripley went to the long sleep, Then Ripley sacrificed herself after another facehugger impregnated her in Alien 3. All of that was Peter Weyland's fault to begin with. Weyland-Yutani became just as bad for being obsessed with pursuing Mr. Weyland's legacy as to why Ash was aboard the Nostromo on LV-426 because of what the Prometheus found on LV-226 before.
I appreciate the effort you put in to give me a supercut of the most impactful parts of this series. I've been interested in _Alien_ for a bit but not interested enough to dedicate a dozen hours.
Edited to add: your commentary is entertaining, keep doing what you're doing!
Wait a minute. So the thing about Jesus being a engineer is cannon?
Always has been
This also has me scratching my head.
It seems really silly.
@@theguilloriousmind5832 It’s explained in an extended version of “Prometheus.” If I remember correctly, the Engineers actually take a human child to teach him their philosophies of selflessness and all that. Only for the humans to crucify him even he tried to preach The Engineers’ word.
I laughed my ass off when I first found out about it
yeah it's kinda silly ancient people could capture and kill an engineer !🤣
Thankyou for the lengths you took to explain these movies so well
Okay hold up in Prometheus David not secretly slip it into his drink. Id have noticed that weird action immediately. I also wouldnt honestly have full trust of any AI. Also the dudes peripherals would have noticed that finger dip. Android or no they're a synthetic, meant to be as sanitary as possible. They wouldn't risk just dipping their full fingertip in a cup by complete accident. Maybe only if they have an electric impulse that isn't meant to happen so I'd immediately ask if David is okay. Also I know that he was obviously drunk already. I'm just thinking to much. I'm sorry
We should really take a sec to focus on the images in comics here tbh, most of them have incredibly stunning drawings!
I understand at this point everyone knows the Alien story I do wish there was a chapter about it. Just for true chronological accuracy
I am very confused why it was not included. Like. Extremely confused.
@@aermotorsapparently the guy just forgot, and decided not to upload a "fixed" version
What an amazing video! Even without the original Alien included, this is simply awesome, thank you so much for sharing!
It's fair to assume at this point that the Aliens on David's planet weren't Engineers.
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This is like the franchise where everyone dies and nothing goes right lol I love it
The paradise planet was not the Engineers Homeworld, pay close attention, the people in that scene were not engineers but other humanoids created by the Engineers , that look more like engineers than humans.
They are the real engineers the one we saw in Prometheus are genetically modified for space travel
But yet they have just 1 world @@abdulhaddi474
Nonsense.
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man i absolutely LOVE this VHS filter type thing you got going on. Makes me feel like i have my old CRT TV on while im playing my N64 or gamecube on my smaller, 12 Inch tv thats just placed on the floor. (Im watching this on my 2nd monitor now.)
The big thing I got from Romulus is that they reverse engineer the black goo from big chap. From an Alien. They mention bow adaptable they are genetically.
This raises an interesting question, if you take Prometheus etc at face value, it seems like the engineers created the black goo, which in turn creates the xenos.
But what if that’s not the case, what if the engineers did exactly what the humans did in Romulus; what if they also reverse engineered it from something.
There’s shots in Prometheus of a mural seemingly depicting xenos, showing they were something to he respected.
If they were simply a bio weapon, why create a life cycle at all, why not just do what was shown in Covenant and have it melt people? To me the fact that through out, the face hugger to chest burster to alien liege cycle is always present tells me that it must be fundamental to the genetic code.
In interviews Ridley Scott has said he couldn’t decide which way to take it, maybe what I’ve said isn’t canon, maybe David did create the xenos but Romulus leaves the door open for more.
I personally love the idea that xenomorphs or something like them, something we haven’t seen it’s purest form are naturally occurring, the engineers found them, and used their ability to adapt to genetically engineer weapons and other things, and now humanity is doing the same, unaware they were both messing with power they couldn’t control.
Ooooh that's a damn good explanation for the Xenomorph mural in the Engineer ship. I like that.
I love how you guys are branching out other than anime 💯
Fifield and Millburn: There's an alien lifeform? Let's go the opposite direction.
Also Fifield and Millburn: Ooh and alien lifeform, let's get close and play with it.
RIGHT ???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anyone else think these old movies were actually dropping knowledge?
Why was Wayland so interested in the xenomorph?
They wanted to synthesize and reproduce its biological advantages to jump-start humanity's evolution into the next stage; one that would make humans more suitable for space travel.
@@TheGuzeinbuick thanks, that makes sense - terrible plan - but it’s a logical motivation.
Please reupload and add the original Alien movie!!
ROUGH start to Human Hosting.
Yikes.
One of the Best breakdown Videos I’ve seen.”
Amazing!!! Thanks for this!
Aliens vs. Predator (also known as Aliens versus Predator, abbreviated AVP) is a comic book series published by Dark Horse Comics between 1989 and 2020 on an intermittent basis, written and drawn by various artists. Dark Horse also publishes the Aliens and Predator lines of comics.
And not a single one of these comics were mentioned... so not every alien comic was taken into account as the title states
And the two movies!!
Now I'ma have to see this cuz I'm just hearing they crossed with marvel and DC
props to everyone who watched the whole video and didnt skip anything
This franchise will end up requiring time travel / multiverse. Messing around jnside the only fully accounted for 57 years of lore is very stupid. There are no restrictions for storytelling once ripley escapes in Aliens.
Yeah makes me think 🤔 of how Terminator got messy
I wish you would of included Dark Descent as well
Bro really said I’m not going to spend another 6hours rendering it 😂
What an interesting summary. Though unless it escaped me, I'm missing the Predator stories which are interwoven with the alien ones.
Oh of course Decker is a descendant of Ripley... These can't exist without people being related
I know they're not exactly great games, but aren't Aliens: Colonial Marines and Alien: Blackout canon?
Wait. Whats the footage after covenent and before isolation from?
But why did you skip alien and go to isolation?
It's about family when you think about it.
Weyland and his robot child, and other much less impressive child. The engineers and their human children, Elizabeth and her son.
Why do they always take off helmets in these places? Even without knowing the black goo, you are on a new planet you dont know what your going to step on or breath in and literally every time something dangerous in the air goes into them. So dumb
Thank you for getting straight into the video and not waste our time with half an hour of appreciation galore, which is what the community tab is made for.
i was so excited thinking i found a nice in-depth 2 hour video about the alien franchise, only to play it and realise it was made using AI.
Super funny how Fiefield was the man mapping out the structure and then gets lost inside of it.
NGL. the absence of the Original stopped me from finishing. Your title can’t be “the complete” if it’s missing the foundation
Jesus? What?
Yeah the lore gets deep
@natehammondtrio if ya look up a youtube Kroft talks about movies, he explains the original script written for the engineers movie Prometheus , its super interesting!
@@MsTypeO- which video by him?
@@lou_gubrious almost any video about prometheus. He has a full love explained about engineers video, he has the first 2 drafts scripts and engineers dialogue explained videos as well, i recommend anything by kroft about engineers !
I love the work you guys do and anime/manga predictions, I’m so happy to see y’all growing and expanding your content and channels!
At least they kept their priorities straight; at some point you MUST go to pound town!
you even added the books! awesome work!