A lot of what TMF covers is so useful to actually OWNING one. Love these sorts of reviews. Really love the long term reviews, attention to details that matter day-to-day and conveying the actual experience of owning/operating a given bike. Thumbs up.
A trick for detailing. Go to the paint store, or order up a 4" or larger, natural bristle paint brush (not nylon or synthetic...it should be natural hair.) Wrap the metal strap with gaffers or duct tape so you can't scratch your paintwork. Get a clean bucket of water, duck it in, and put a little soap on the brush and scrub up the bike. Spoke wheels become a breeze, without busted knuckles, the bristles will get into all the little spaces and clean them out, and when you're done the brush cleans up nicely.
Won one of these on Saturday in a competition! Best £2.50 I’ve ever spent.....yep, £2.50!!! Gets delivered tomorrow. Be a bit of a change compared to the MT09 but what a bike for those nice summer days!! Forgot to add it’s a 19 plate with 1,579 miles on the clock.
I was going to get a Yamaha mt-10 but opted for the bobber. It’s such a classic look and I’m older now and don’t need to be breaking the sound barrier everywhere I go. How do you like yours?
@@jak2828 hi dude. Yeah love it! Well that’s when the weathers decent enough for it to come out to play. Such an amazing bike just to cruise about on and be a posing bugger haha. I’d love an mt10 but I’d have to trade both bikes in…..don’t want an Mt 10 that much though! How you finding it? Was it the newer 21 plate model you got?
TheTrirocket3 whoa so you can install the larger tank on it. Thanks for that man. Was it a difficult job? Im looking at getting one of these but the tank size is my only grip. There are sections of highway where you can have 50 miles or more without a fueling station.
I know this is an old comment 🙄 but will the T100 pipes fit on the bobber? I'm wanting the black edition here in the states but I want to liven it up a bit 🤣
Have been subscribing to your channel since the early beginning, and must say that the quality of your channel is some of the very best on TH-cam. Picture quality and especially the very important sound quality is usually spot on and of much higher quality than 99% of TH-cam videos. Good to see that your following is increasing. Drive safe and all the best from the Faroe.
These long term reviews are great, you said it yourself, it exposes any and all little niggles and quirks of living daily with a given motorcycle. Great job, keep doing it !
I watch your videos often, and I just must say again that I love your honesty in your Reviews. Never change that please. I have developed a Love Affair with Triumph motorcycles but I always want to know the truth of each bike. It's strong and weak points. Doesn't make the bike bad. As you say, it's your opinion and others will agree or disagree. Now facts are facts. Can't dispute facts. But I love that you show the practicality of each bike and all and all Brilliant mate! Cheerio! Keep doing what you do. We appreciate it.
+Spartan_300 Thank you Spartan_300 I'm really pleased you like my videos and whilst people keep watching them I'll keep making them! All the best - TMF
Great review there Missenden Flyer! I agree the front brake is marginal. The small air cleaner and throttle body are fake. Just for show. The 2 air cleaners are under the side covers. The bike is fuel injected, so no carbs. The stock exhaust sound was very good. If throaty is your thing. I have 750 miles on mine and I absolutely love it (I have 2 other bikes that will be collecting dust this summer)
I just got my 2017 T120 and honestly.. I rode 200 kilometers yesterday after picking it up and my dip beam is so much brighter at the sides of the road than the high beam and still shoots straight down. I thought that I had been riding with the high beam on but I wasn't lol.
+Anonymous Biker Thank you AB - I try my best to give my honest opinion, it is only that though (my opinion....I'm no expert)...thanks for watching - TMF
Love the look of this bike and the statement it seems to make. For local runs and around town it would be fine - also short runs. Hope to test ride one soon. Might look for a second hand one.
Random question for the Brits. @7:27 there was a Toyota Avensis (Sedan) with a rear wiper. Is this something that the UK requires or was that a retrofit by the owner?
Enjoying my chauffeured tour of the UK (your region anyway!). Took my '08 Sprint ST for it's annual state (NC - $2.71 per US gal.of Shell 93 octane - added 4oz of annual fuel treatment) inspection today (not near as invasive as UK's MOT). Keep up your good and entertaining works! When washing my bikes, I use a leaf blower initially before using a chamois/rag to finish the drying - S100 works well for polishing.
absolutely loved your review! the way equal importance is given to cleaning and fuel stops as is given to the low end/high end torque/vibrations, which i think are even more important if you are looking forward to own a bike and like keeping yours for many years.. loved it!
Thanks for the efficient long term review. Totally agree with the cleaning issues. I like a clean bike and the Bobber does seem to lose its new finish pretty quickly. Also dislike the key position, and think the handlebars and clamps look cheap. I love the hard tail look of the Bobber, but If I was going to spend that kind of money I would go for the Honda CB 1100, SORRY.
Great video! The suspension is medieval! A new adjustable shock is a must! The stock seat is minimal and should be replaced. The wide handlebars aren't adjustable and reach for anyone under 6 feet tall. The headlight is adequate but could be brighter and better defined. The headlight switch is a bit backward, with a simple on/off option. You can't flash your headlights for passing or get attention at night. Even with the larger 12L tank, the range is limiting. The fuel light will illuminate just under half a tank, around 150 km. Finding a suitable paddock stand is challenging, especially due to the low stance and excessive weight. A significant issue is the high-end gearing. ECU prohibits any significant changes to sprockets. You will find yourself cruising at about 140 kph to reach sixth gear. Aside from those nitpicking issues, it is a beautiful, robust motorcycle.
The fuel range seems to be much the same as Harleys fitted with peanut tanks, but their owners don't seem to see this as an issue. Personally, I do - I dislike refuelling at any time.
Chris Bramblett My Sportster 72 does about 50/55 before the fuel light. However, I have a very tall sissy bar with a bag and a fuel can strapped to it, so every 50 miles I just need a lay by. Although many would hate that, most of the old school chopper community just accept it.
Regarding the lights I have the opposite issue, the dipped is awesome, best dipped I ever had, but the fullbeam lights up my front wheel and the either side of me but not really the road ahead. Regarding the brakes, I completely agree. I will be upgrading them once they're worn out.
Yeah I think the light on the bike I had just needed pointing up, it had probably never been ridden in the dark before (as it's Triumph's press bike)...good call on the brakes.
Odd that you weren't sure how the petrol cap opened 5:40, when at the start I think you said you had been riding it for a while, and this was a long term review. How many miles did you put on the long term tester?
I'm in absolute awe of these, particularly the newer bobber black version. I've got a street triple rs just now, as I can only afford one bike i would need to trade up, is this a swap you would recommend?
Great video! Good content and thorough coverage for someone like me who's interested in a new ride! Keep up the great work! Excellent audio and image quality in your videos.
I've been hanging over one of these for a while, this review have given me a few things to think about. As for not having a center stand I have an MT07 with the same issue but it's easily sorted with a set of rollers that can be picked up from Amazon for around £20, great for cleaning the wheels and lubing the chain. Good and informative review, thank you.
The engine stains you mentioned is not corrosion it comes from some lube they put behind the logo ornament on the engin case and when your riding and the motor gets hot the stuff oozes and splatters allover those parts. Sadly when that lube dries with the heat of the engin it stains those part permanently. Gladly its covered by the the dealership.
Great review...long term reviews are certainly more mature. I bought a street twin today from the show room and I think Triumph are doing a wonderful job in focusing on detail.
Greatful for this review. I’m getting back in to motorcycling and am finding it a nightmare to choose between them all, the tank capacity issue and nighttime lighting seems poorer than I’d want. So the bobber is crossed off the list..
Another excellent review.... answered all my questions. One of the bikes I have test rode, looks bob on but that fuel tank would drive me to distraction. Plus I've seen a few with corrosion that on a bike that is as much about looks as anything else is poor. Keep em coming ......
Trouble with Triumphs they do look old quick , my friends bobber looked ten years old after a year of use . Use my r nine t in all weathers and it still looks mint .
i guess it might be a case of live with it for a bit then if it becomes a pain in the rear, chuck on a T120 or custom petrol tank?? customised bikes are way cooler anyhow...! great review as always...!
I've ridden my Bobber for 126 miles on a tank full. Then filled with 2.44 U.S. gals and had 56 mpg gauge reading (Note: 2.44 x 56 = 136.6 miles) "Range-Left" value on my gauge is faulty on my bike as it usually read in the 65-70 mile range (after 8 tank fills) and stays in that range until it actually has 65-70 miles left and only then does it start to count down to zero. Triumph Service (Corporate) recognizes this as being a problem with ALL Bobbers and is working to fix it. Hopefully via a software patch. My local dealer had my Bobber for 4 days and could not fix this problem... yet.
I'm in "shadee's" corner ! Honest review though non the less . I'm convinced though the mkII will have to have a bigger tank even another 30 miles would be an improvement could still be same style . it will cost Triumph sales IMO
Very informative video thank you. Just to confirm, this is the 2017? I know the 2018 Bobber Black has the dual disc brakes. Not sure if that was offered in 2017
I bought mine not long after watching this review six years ago, but have decided to offload it now. I did uprate the suspension as the rear shock is junk and the forks are not great. Its a superb engine albeit a bit like a diesel in its delivery, but the puny tank and atrocious ground clearance have just annoyed me beyond endurance. I dont set myself up for the next Rossi but it should't drag the pegs on every roundabout.
With regard to the engine covers my 2011 Thruxton was the same. I bought it at 3 years old with 1800 miles on the clock and the cases were showing a log of corrosion. I think they aren't covered with anything so mark up quickly. I solved it by getting the engine cases painted. BTW the KTM Super Adventure has illuminated switchgear
Aluminium is a reactive metal that naturally passivates which is to say forms a molecular layer of oxide which prevents it corroding further. Unfortunately if you polish it that removes the layer and it forms again as a white powdery surface. You can't win. The more they're polished (polish=abrasive) the more micro-scratches are formed and the worse the corrosion looks. I've seen cases lacquered but I'm finding that wheel wax both cleans, polishes and seals alloy cases, it's not permanent but will stand a few washes and last a season.
Something I am aware of with these is that when turning the ignition off, it is recommended that the engine be killed with the Kill Switch FIRST, then turn off the ignition. No idea why.
Very attracted this style of bike, but post review here I'd opt for the more practical T120 with a greater range. Currently riding a HD XG750 which offers all the thrills this bike has to offer, albeit less BHP, but a greater range and more traditional ride. Low to ground and plenty of grunt, I think I'll keep the HD for now!! Spot on review, helps us chaps make an informed decision!
This would be a great foundation for a 1938 Speed twin commemorative...the hardtail design would be the proper platform...maybe put on a Lycette seat or old style bench seat...
A very informative review, as always. Really worth watching imo - thanks for taking the time to do it. :) I think the 'niggles' are well worth mentioning, as these are the things that you couldn't really identify on an hour long test ride. On balance, I don't think they'd put me off buying the bike, but it's nice to have a heads-up. Nicely done TMF.
You comment on the straight wheel valves and that angled ones would be better; surely they're inner-tubes due to the spoked rim? I'm not aware of inner-tubes with angled valves. Is there such a thing?
Good review, thanks. Tank range puts me off. Makes it no good for something to commute to work on in the summer. Seems to be a trend, so many new bikes barely get 120 miles from a tank.
Thaks for the review. I have a Bobber. It is a great bike indeed. But you mention that there is no "low end, low speed judder and easy to ride at low speeds" as well as a smooth low speed throttle... I dunno, my Bobber is just On/Off at low speeds. It's not smooth at all. It doesn't have that smooth roll on/roll off as you describe, or that the inline 4s have. I asked the shop if there were updated throttle maps that address this issue (as Yamaha and Suzuki have for some of their bikes of similar complaints) but they looked at me like I was mad!! haha!
I reckon this bike would be a good candidate for a project bike to customise. (Bigger tank, double front brake disc, different bars nice paintjob. Lovely!)
I would say another concern is the tube tires it requires due to those spoked wheels. You get a flat and you're done riding for the day. Not sure why Triumph has made their entire T-120 lineup with wheels that require tubes. I did enjoy the review, thanks much.
Another Triumph which is good looking but w/o any practical use. As I said elsewhere - that's not a bike rather than an accessory for someone who rarely rides or just needs to impress people with what they have in their garage. But great vid. Stay safe
love the review, cant stop thinking about getting one since my son picked up his street twin.But my wife will kill me if I come home with another bike.Not a fan of your riding though, squeezing in and out of traffic anywhere a bike can fit, that kind of riding is dangerous, causes alot of close calls and gives motorcycle riders a bad name.But still love the bike, gotta clean house before I purchase another.
I have one, it's a great bike. Metal valve stem caps are a must if you don't want to add air all the time. These will pass everything but a gas station.
+Renzsu Well many do come with a flexible hose, it's not a big issue really just a pain if you happen to have a tyre gauge like mine! Thanks for watching - TMF
A little off topic but Mr. Flyer what is that jacket you are wearing? Looks like it would be excellent in warmer weather and also looks like it has great abrasion resistance. And it looks like it fits well and conforms to body. Good review also
+Joe Perrone ah the one in the bike! Yes it's a Summer perforated number - no longer available (can't remember the manufacturer but they went bust a few years back).....
Black engine cases (like on my T100) would help with durability but the alloy probably looks better. If you're a shorty like me with only a short reach the mid controls + flat bars make you sit rather hunched up. The bars from the Speedmaster would cure this though.
Hi. You didn't comment on the rear shock. I love my Bobber (and I actually don't mind the rear lights) and can actually go about 100-110 miles between fill-ups. One thing that I am disappointed with is the rear shock/spring. I can easily bottom out the shock. Do you find a similar problem? I weight 230lbs, so I am above average weight. To me the biggest negative point of this bike, besides the small fuel tank, is the fact that the rear shock has not adjustment whatsoever. For a $12,000US+ bike in the States that is not too much to ask, at least the rear spring should be adjustable.
I never bottomed out the shock but have heard others have done so (as well as grind the footpegs....I didn't do that either!). Maybe I just ride like a school girl!!!
Appreciate the video as always. It's a shame Triumph didn't create this bike with a nod to practicality, not everyone can justify bikes purely as a fashion item, for most real motorcyclists the ability to use the bike as a real motorcycle with usability is more important than Triumph seem to realise. It bugs me they seem to be more concerned with fashion statements than bikes that that can be used as their owners desire. No reflection on you TMF, you've compiled a useful review as always. It has to be said I'm a bigger fan of your reviews and channel than I am of modern day Triumph motorcycles. Enjoy the weekend. cheers tony
+antonoat Well this is the first Triumph I've ever ridden that I would regard as impractical (due fuel range)....I think all the other current Bonnies are spot on from a practical point of view...thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF
You may be right to a greater or lesser extent, lol. I just find bikes that are designed with fashion as their prime objective often miss their target audience by a mile. Cheers
As far as I know, all the 1200s and certainly the Bobber, have threaded inserts on the swingarms for jack stand bobbins. Makes chain maintenance a breeze. The 900s OTOH lack this and unless you get a centerstand, it's going to be a PITA.
I bought a new 22 of this bobber. I love it it's really nice. How ever there is one thing that more and more start to irritate me. And it's the gearing. 1-3 is perfect, but 4-6 is way too demanding in revs/speed. I honestly don't understand why it has 6 gears. I will probably never use the last one.
A very belated Thank you a for a great fully informative review. With any of your Bonneville bikes. Overall how’s the chain maintenance? How often do you clean your chain, lube it and have you had much chain droop? Any issues with your transmission? Would you suggest the Fox or any shock upgrades? Have you tried the Quilted seat?
Lovely bike. Really like it. Nice review too. Thanks! I’ve had a Triumph with spokes once; beautiful, but never again. So let me see if I get this: the fuel light came on, and then you tanked 6.64 liters?
tyre valves - are they not usually straight? I keep a right angle adapter in my pocket permanently, (thank god as I was once asked to try out a friends BMW 1200 with 12 psi in the front!!!!) - it was raining to boot - scary stuff
I was just looking at the bobber at the Triumph dealership on Saturday and it's a great looking bike, very tempting but I ended up putting a deposit down on the T120. Anything you can do over there to persuade Triumph to bump up production so I can get it sooner? I kid. I currently have a Yamaha Star Bolt (I think it's named differently in the UK and EU) and I found it's a feature (and complaint) of most, if not all, of the bobbers to have a small tank. I only get maybe 120 miles of travel out of my Bolt before I have to fill up. It's not an issue as I mostly drive around town, but out here in the western US, you have to plan well if you are going on a longer ride. All the best TMF!
2 questions Mr. Flyer. What kind of soap do you use to wash your bikes? And have you ridden the new Speedmaster? If not I hope you will be reviewing it soon. Thanks again and take care....Sal : )
Good evening Mr Flyer ;) Another brilliant review my friend! Couple of questions for you today. 1. Would you change the front brake caliper set up if you bought one, including fitting steel braided hoses? 2. Did I spot "LACE UP" Steel toecap boots, on your feet Sir, whilst at the petrol station? (If so, please discuss! ha ha) Cheers my friend, Have a great weekend, Ian; )
An excellent, well-informed review. You hit all of the important points that one can only discover after riding it for a good while. I especially appreciate what you say about the fuel autonomy, which could be a deal-breaker for me, given that I often ride in places where it's not easy to find a petrol station. By the way, are all bike license plates in Britain as huge as that one? It really takes away from the look of the rear end. I own a Ducati Scrambler, and I'm curious to know whether you've reviewed that bike.
...yes those number plates are huge aren't they, you can (illegally) fit smaller ones....and yes I have reviewed the Ducati Scrambler - if you search on my channel I'm sure you'll find it...thanks for watching and for the kind comments - TMF
Great review and very insightful! I'm planning to get this bike for daily office commute which is roughly 80 km up and down! Have a few questions: 1. Is the Bobber ideal for daily office commute? One way for me would be roughly 40km! 2. I don't like the idea of carrying a backpack, so is there an option to mount a bag on the sides of the rear? I would need one that can take a Laptop and some accessories! I would appreciate your reply!
1 I can think of better bikes to commute on! And 2 not that I’m aware of (only smallish saddlebag type affairs).....sorry if these weren’t the answers you wanted!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply! If the Bobber does not cut these 2 points that I need in a bike, then I think it is not the one for me! I'm now leaning towards the Bonneville T120 and I hope that it fits what I need!
Love the look & sound of the bike, the range is an issue another 30 miles with the light coming on at 80 would've been far more attractive. Enjoying the reviews, thank you great job.
You will get about 250 to 300 miles per tank on a R1200R!! Or plenty more depending how you ride..the r1200r will outclass in every aspect except looks basically
Good first bike for a beginner? I’ve heard that the T120 might be a bit much for a newbie but I saw this bike land on a few “best cruisers for beginners” list. What’s your opinion @TheMissendenFlyer.
Watched it again. Excellent review. If the riding range is not so short, it is a very good bike. I have ridden it too. It's a shame that I can't take this for long rides with that small tank.
I have a 2003 Honda VLX 600 Shadow, and I thought that was low on mileage. The spec states it is _"2.91 gallon, (including .9gal reserve)"_. I get around 95 miles before I feel I really really need to fuel up. But wow, this thing is low. I was curious. Could you due a video where you adjust/pull the set lower down and back? I know it's made to do that easily. I would love to seeing a straight on side shot of that to see the lines/profile of the bike. For my taste, the seat feels to high and forward compared to being nestled closer to the back tire.
Bit concerned about your corrosion issue. Have you tried GT85, or similar, on the surface? I know it's an oil, but an occasional wipe over with an oily rag might help with this? Bit of a disappointment, though. Great, fun and lively bike, though. Big smiles! Think I might go for the mini-apes and Vance and Hines pipes (to annoy my neighbours!).
For me, personally, its the best looking bike ive ever seen.
MOST DEFINITELY!!! Like Aphrodite designed it herself!
A lot of what TMF covers is so useful to actually OWNING one. Love these sorts of reviews. Really love the long term reviews, attention to details that matter day-to-day and conveying the actual experience of owning/operating a given bike. Thumbs up.
+Scott Peterson Thank you as ever Scott - glad you find these of interest...cheers - TMF
Absolutely agree. I watch his reviews before all others and give him the nod when reviews disagree
A trick for detailing. Go to the paint store, or order up a 4" or larger, natural bristle paint brush (not nylon or synthetic...it should be natural hair.) Wrap the metal strap with gaffers or duct tape so you can't scratch your paintwork. Get a clean bucket of water, duck it in, and put a little soap on the brush and scrub up the bike. Spoke wheels become a breeze, without busted knuckles, the bristles will get into all the little spaces and clean them out, and when you're done the brush cleans up nicely.
Won one of these on Saturday in a competition! Best £2.50 I’ve ever spent.....yep, £2.50!!!
Gets delivered tomorrow. Be a bit of a change compared to the MT09 but what a bike for those nice summer days!!
Forgot to add it’s a 19 plate with 1,579 miles on the clock.
I was going to get a Yamaha mt-10 but opted for the bobber. It’s such a classic look and I’m older now and don’t need to be breaking the sound barrier everywhere I go. How do you like yours?
@@jak2828 hi dude. Yeah love it! Well that’s when the weathers decent enough for it to come out to play.
Such an amazing bike just to cruise about on and be a posing bugger haha.
I’d love an mt10 but I’d have to trade both bikes in…..don’t want an Mt 10 that much though!
How you finding it? Was it the newer 21 plate model you got?
I fitted a T120 tank 170miles per fill up, Pretech 6pot caliper sorts braking.
Nice honest review
170 miles is more like it - bummer that you have to change the tank though!
TheTrirocket3 so you changed the tank and brakes on a brand new bike? Respect
TheTrirocket3 whoa so you can install the larger tank on it. Thanks for that man. Was it a difficult job?
Im looking at getting one of these but the tank size is my only grip. There are sections of highway where you can have 50 miles or more without a fueling station.
Post a video! Would love to see how it looks
I know this is an old comment 🙄 but will the T100 pipes fit on the bobber? I'm wanting the black edition here in the states but I want to liven it up a bit 🤣
Great review. Having been away from biking for 5 or so years this is definitely a bike i'm looking to start up biking with again.
Have been subscribing to your channel since the early beginning, and must say that the quality of your channel is some of the very best on TH-cam. Picture quality and especially the very important sound quality is usually spot on and of much higher quality than 99% of TH-cam videos. Good to see that your following is increasing. Drive safe and all the best from the Faroe.
Well that's very kind of you to say so - thanks for sticking with me! All the best - TMF
These long term reviews are great, you said it yourself, it exposes any and all little niggles and quirks of living daily with a given motorcycle. Great job, keep doing it !
+JIGA BACHI Thank you - will do!
I watch your videos often, and I just must say again that I love your honesty in your Reviews. Never change that please. I have developed a Love Affair with Triumph motorcycles but I always want to know the truth of each bike. It's strong and weak points. Doesn't make the bike bad. As you say, it's your opinion and others will agree or disagree. Now facts are facts. Can't dispute facts. But I love that you show the practicality of each bike and all and all Brilliant mate! Cheerio! Keep doing what you do. We appreciate it.
+Spartan_300 Thank you Spartan_300 I'm really pleased you like my videos and whilst people keep watching them I'll keep making them! All the best - TMF
Love the style for me lack of suspension travel little short for the tore up road s we will see this spring. Cheers.
Great review there Missenden Flyer!
I agree the front brake is marginal.
The small air cleaner and throttle body are fake. Just for show.
The 2 air cleaners are under the side covers.
The bike is fuel injected, so no carbs.
The stock exhaust sound was very good. If throaty is your thing.
I have 750 miles on mine and I absolutely love it (I have 2 other bikes that will be collecting dust this summer)
I just got my 2017 T120 and honestly.. I rode 200 kilometers yesterday after picking it up and my dip beam is so much brighter at the sides of the road than the high beam and still shoots straight down. I thought that I had been riding with the high beam on but I wasn't lol.
This is why I love your channel everything a prospective owner needs to know but whould not be able to guess at with a 1 hour test ride , thanks .
Glad to help
love how you're honest about the bikes everytime! Giving people a real idea of what's it like - Great job TMF! Another quality video :)
+Anonymous Biker Thank you AB - I try my best to give my honest opinion, it is only that though (my opinion....I'm no expert)...thanks for watching - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer sir..I love your vlogs. ..you are fast becoming a legend dare say 😊😊😊😊
Thank you sir!
I would consider a piece of high temp gold tape across the head light for a bit of spread and to make the color more daylight like.
Got a new BB on Saturday , added new fox suspension, forwards and High bars and stitch seat . Absolutely adore this bike !!
Congratulations on the new bike!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Harley who!
Rode a bobber last weekend, super bike - can't wait for the new Speedmaster
Love the look of this bike and the statement it seems to make. For local runs and around town it would be fine - also short runs. Hope to test ride one soon. Might look for a second hand one.
Random question for the Brits. @7:27 there was a Toyota Avensis (Sedan) with a rear wiper. Is this something that the UK requires or was that a retrofit by the owner?
Dunno - probably a requirement I reckon....
Enjoying my chauffeured tour of the UK (your region anyway!). Took my '08 Sprint ST for it's annual state (NC - $2.71 per US gal.of Shell 93 octane - added 4oz of annual fuel treatment) inspection today (not near as invasive as UK's MOT). Keep up your good and entertaining works! When washing my bikes, I use a leaf blower initially before using a chamois/rag to finish the drying - S100 works well for polishing.
+Stardust Dream Factory Cheets for that - all the best - TMF
Outstanding review! Answered so many questions I had.
Have to say this one is growing on me, I feel a test ride maybe called for, it just looks so funky, thanks for the video, as always.
+steffydog1 It us very different to ride - well worth having a go on for the lols....
Another top review very in depth such a cool looking bike ...bit of a shame about the fuel range ..good work Mr F
+Keith Holmes Cheers as ever Keith
Excellent review!
Just what we needed to know.
Glad you found it of interest Pat - cheers!
Another great job. You have a super practical way of reviewing, well done.
+Chris Esser Thank you Chris, that is my intention :0)
absolutely loved your review! the way equal importance is given to cleaning and fuel stops as is given to the low end/high end torque/vibrations, which i think are even more important if you are looking forward to own a bike and like keeping yours for many years..
loved it!
Thank you Parnit - glad you like my approach!
Thanks for the efficient long term review. Totally agree with the cleaning issues. I like a clean bike and the Bobber does seem to lose its new finish pretty quickly. Also dislike the key position, and think the handlebars and clamps look cheap. I love the hard tail look of the Bobber, but If I was going to spend that kind of money I would go for the Honda CB 1100, SORRY.
Great video! The suspension is medieval! A new adjustable shock is a must! The stock seat is minimal and should be replaced. The wide handlebars aren't adjustable and reach for anyone under 6 feet tall. The headlight is adequate but could be brighter and better defined. The headlight switch is a bit backward, with a simple on/off option. You can't flash your headlights for passing or get attention at night. Even with the larger 12L tank, the range is limiting. The fuel light will illuminate just under half a tank, around 150 km. Finding a suitable paddock stand is challenging, especially due to the low stance and excessive weight. A significant issue is the high-end gearing. ECU prohibits any significant changes to sprockets. You will find yourself cruising at about 140 kph to reach sixth gear. Aside from those nitpicking issues, it is a beautiful, robust motorcycle.
Thanks for the feedback!
The fuel range seems to be much the same as Harleys fitted with peanut tanks, but their owners don't seem to see this as an issue. Personally, I do - I dislike refuelling at any time.
+Tim Hammond Yeah me too, it would stop me buying one...
Tim Hammond 44 miles. Ridiculous. My electric can do 110 miles.
Chris Bramblett My Sportster 72 does about 50/55 before the fuel light. However, I have a very tall sissy bar with a bag and a fuel can strapped to it, so every 50 miles I just need a lay by. Although many would hate that, most of the old school chopper community just accept it.
those are ridiculous range, my tuono can go 100 miles before i hit the petrol station and even at that range i find it annoying
MOTHER OF GOD, that's bad ! And here i was bitching and complaining about mine going off at 120 (us)miles.
Great video! Thanks for posting. I’ve watched many videos and finally settled on the bobber. Can’t wait!
Enjoy!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you!
Regarding the lights I have the opposite issue, the dipped is awesome, best dipped I ever had, but the fullbeam lights up my front wheel and the either side of me but not really the road ahead.
Regarding the brakes, I completely agree. I will be upgrading them once they're worn out.
Yeah I think the light on the bike I had just needed pointing up, it had probably never been ridden in the dark before (as it's Triumph's press bike)...good call on the brakes.
Am I bobbered? Great video TMF, I just watched the Shadetree Surgeon's take on this bike, the man is so funny! Fantastic!!
Odd that you weren't sure how the petrol cap opened 5:40, when at the start I think you said you had been riding it for a while, and this was a long term review. How many miles did you put on the long term tester?
But the clips you see are shot over a period of time - I always do the first fill on the fueling clip to see if there are any surprises...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ah, that makes sense. I was confused by the edit.
I'm in absolute awe of these, particularly the newer bobber black version. I've got a street triple rs just now, as I can only afford one bike i would need to trade up, is this a swap you would recommend?
No, personally I'd stick with the Street Triple (and am infact)....
Great video! Good content and thorough coverage for someone like me who's interested in a new ride! Keep up the great work! Excellent audio and image quality in your videos.
Thank you Steven, I aim to please!
I've been hanging over one of these for a while, this review have given me a few things to think about. As for not having a center stand I have an MT07 with the same issue but it's easily sorted with a set of rollers that can be picked up from Amazon for around £20, great for cleaning the wheels and lubing the chain. Good and informative review, thank you.
Glad you found it of use - thanks for watching - TMF
Best bike review of any bike I've seen in ages. Thanks :)
Excellent - thanks for the kind words...TMF
The engine stains you mentioned is not corrosion it comes from some lube they put behind the logo ornament on the engin case and when your riding and the motor gets hot the stuff oozes and splatters allover those parts. Sadly when that lube dries with the heat of the engin it stains those part permanently. Gladly its covered by the the dealership.
Oh dear, sounds a bit naff!
Great review...long term reviews are certainly more mature. I bought a street twin today from the show room and I think Triumph are doing a wonderful job in focusing on detail.
Congratulations and enjoy!
Greatful for this review. I’m getting back in to motorcycling and am finding it a nightmare to choose between them all, the tank capacity issue and nighttime lighting seems poorer than I’d want. So the bobber is crossed off the list..
Nighttime riding is horrific….had to use bobber when Mt was poorly….was not fun on a 14 mile trip from work on an A road.
Another excellent review.... answered all my questions. One of the bikes I have test rode, looks bob on but that fuel tank would drive me to distraction. Plus I've seen a few with corrosion that on a bike that is as much about looks as anything else is poor. Keep em coming ......
Trouble with Triumphs they do look old quick , my friends bobber looked ten years old after a year of use .
Use my r nine t in all weathers and it still looks mint .
i guess it might be a case of live with it for a bit then if it becomes a pain in the rear, chuck on a T120 or custom petrol tank?? customised bikes are way cooler anyhow...! great review as always...!
Thanks David...
softail deluxe
I've ridden my Bobber for 126 miles on a tank full.
Then filled with 2.44 U.S. gals and had 56 mpg gauge reading
(Note: 2.44 x 56 = 136.6 miles)
"Range-Left" value on my gauge is faulty on my bike as it usually read in the 65-70 mile range (after 8 tank fills) and stays in that range until it actually has 65-70 miles left and only then does it start to count down to zero.
Triumph Service (Corporate) recognizes this as being a problem with ALL Bobbers and is working to fix it. Hopefully via a software patch.
My local dealer had my Bobber for 4 days and could not fix this problem... yet.
Washing the bike must be my worst part.
Surely (apart from monsoon season) you'rs just get dusty rather than dirty don't they?
When I done the North Coast 500 last month I was averaging 120 miles per tank....got it up to 61.9 mpg
Nice!
Hope the weather was kind to you?
Did you go to Applecross?
andrew balfour yip, stayed the night at the pub, weather was dry but a bit fresh.....around 10 degrees...stunning scenery though..
@@blueviper181
Fantastic, great place.
Hopefully have my bike licence in the next few months.
Very beautiful motorcycle. I sat on both the T120 and Bobber and both seem like very comfy bikes
Indeed they are! Thanks for watching - TMF
I was looking forward to seeing this. Nice review with lots of "real life" information. Thanks mate!
+Thomas Wieland You're welcome Thomas - cheers!
I'm in "shadee's" corner !
Honest review though non the less . I'm convinced though the mkII will have to have a bigger tank even another 30 miles would be an improvement could still be same style . it will cost Triumph sales IMO
+andy blackburn Yeah I agree 100%
I have a Bobber Black and I’m in love
Very informative video thank you. Just to confirm, this is the 2017? I know the 2018 Bobber Black has the dual disc brakes. Not sure if that was offered in 2017
Correct - this was filmed before the Bobber Black was a thing....
I bought mine not long after watching this review six years ago, but have decided to offload it now. I did uprate the suspension as the rear shock is junk and the forks are not great. Its a superb engine albeit a bit like a diesel in its delivery, but the puny tank and atrocious ground clearance have just annoyed me beyond endurance. I dont set myself up for the next Rossi but it should't drag the pegs on every roundabout.
By the way you were spot on re the front brake. Its abysmal. I fitted a FreeSpirits floating disk brembo kit to mine.
At about 9:30 you mention "a bike dryer".What exactly is that ?A big hair dryer ?Not compressed air ?
Good review overall.Cheers.
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With regard to the engine covers my 2011 Thruxton was the same. I bought it at 3 years old with 1800 miles on the clock and the cases were showing a log of corrosion. I think they aren't covered with anything so mark up quickly. I solved it by getting the engine cases painted. BTW the KTM Super Adventure has illuminated switchgear
+Colin Porteous Ah interesting, thanks Colin...
And the KTM 690 Duke aswell. :-)
Aluminium is a reactive metal that naturally passivates which is to say forms a molecular layer of oxide which prevents it corroding further. Unfortunately if you polish it that removes the layer and it forms again as a white powdery surface. You can't win. The more they're polished (polish=abrasive) the more micro-scratches are formed and the worse the corrosion looks. I've seen cases lacquered but I'm finding that wheel wax both cleans, polishes and seals alloy cases, it's not permanent but will stand a few washes and last a season.
Something I am aware of with these is that when turning the ignition off, it is recommended that the engine be killed with the Kill Switch FIRST, then turn off the ignition. No idea why.
Really? I always turn my bikes off using the key....seldom the kill switch.....
Excellent review, plenty of useful information, thanks.
Very attracted this style of bike, but post review here I'd opt for the more practical T120 with a greater range. Currently riding a HD XG750 which offers all the thrills this bike has to offer, albeit less BHP, but a greater range and more traditional ride. Low to ground and plenty of grunt, I think I'll keep the HD for now!! Spot on review, helps us chaps make an informed decision!
Thanks Paul, that's what I'm here for! All the best - TMF
This would be a great foundation for a 1938 Speed twin commemorative...the hardtail design would be the proper platform...maybe put on a Lycette seat or old style bench seat...
A very informative review, as always. Really worth watching imo - thanks for taking the time to do it. :) I think the 'niggles' are well worth mentioning, as these are the things that you couldn't really identify on an hour long test ride. On balance, I don't think they'd put me off buying the bike, but it's nice to have a heads-up. Nicely done TMF.
Thank you Shmoo....
You comment on the straight wheel valves and that angled ones would be better; surely they're inner-tubes due to the spoked rim? I'm not aware of inner-tubes with angled valves. Is there such a thing?
I don’t know Iain, you could well be right. Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF
If you do want a Passenger seat for the bobber you can find some on the internet which are seen to be quite good.
Good review, thanks. Tank range puts me off. Makes it no good for something to commute to work on in the summer. Seems to be a trend, so many new bikes barely get 120 miles from a tank.
Brilliant review. thanks. This is on my list as second bike. May go for the black as I want 2 discs up front and the fat tyres.
Yes I reckon that would be the better bike....
Thaks for the review. I have a Bobber. It is a great bike indeed. But you mention that there is no "low end, low speed judder and easy to ride at low speeds" as well as a smooth low speed throttle... I dunno, my Bobber is just On/Off at low speeds. It's not smooth at all. It doesn't have that smooth roll on/roll off as you describe, or that the inline 4s have.
I asked the shop if there were updated throttle maps that address this issue (as Yamaha and Suzuki have for some of their bikes of similar complaints) but they looked at me like I was mad!! haha!
Ah well I'm used to riding a single, two twins and a triple...."smoothness" means something else to you 4 cylinder jockeys!
But my Bobber is a lovely bike, indeed :-)
Cheers, ride safe!
I reckon this bike would be a good candidate for a project bike to customise. (Bigger tank, double front brake disc, different bars nice paintjob. Lovely!)
I would say another concern is the tube tires it requires due to those spoked wheels. You get a flat and you're done riding for the day. Not sure why Triumph has made their entire T-120 lineup with wheels that require tubes. I did enjoy the review, thanks much.
+Gregory Krammes Cheers Greg...and good point, hadn't occurred to me that!
Another Triumph which is good looking but w/o any practical use. As I said elsewhere - that's not a bike rather than an accessory for someone who rarely rides or just needs to impress people with what they have in their garage. But great vid. Stay safe
One of my biggest issue I'm trying Barber or scout is fuel least you can go 170 MI 100 mi to me is completely useless
Would this be too much bike for a beginner that has just done their full bike test? If so what you recommend? The t100?
Yes I think it probably is - T100 a better choice (or better still a 600cc(ish) machine for 6 months to learn your craft.....
TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the reply..👍🏼. I know that triumph can reduce the power on the t100 for a2 suitability so may try that.
Good plan!
love the review, cant stop thinking about getting one since my son picked up his street twin.But my wife will kill me if I come home with another bike.Not a fan of your riding though, squeezing in and out of traffic anywhere a bike can fit, that kind of riding is dangerous, causes alot of close calls and gives motorcycle riders a bad name.But still love the bike, gotta clean house before I purchase another.
Yes, the "lane splitting" always looks dangerous, something i don't judge others on, but never do myself, seems asking for a cut off, or bump or two.
I have one, it's a great bike. Metal valve stem caps are a must if you don't want to add air all the time. These will pass everything but a gas station.
I agree there - loved the bike but that tank range!!
Thanks mate for a thorough and accurate review!!!
Watching you check the tire pressure, I'm thinking, why don't they make those pressure tools have an angled design so it always works easily?
+Renzsu Well many do come with a flexible hose, it's not a big issue really just a pain if you happen to have a tyre gauge like mine! Thanks for watching - TMF
A little off topic but Mr. Flyer what is that jacket you are wearing? Looks like it would be excellent in warmer weather and also looks like it has great abrasion resistance. And it looks like it fits well and conforms to body. Good review also
+Joe Perrone Its not a Biking jacket, just a North Face puffa.....
+Joe Perrone ah the one in the bike! Yes it's a Summer perforated number - no longer available (can't remember the manufacturer but they went bust a few years back).....
I have only recently discovered your channel. Really enjoy your videos.. Thank you for making them!
+David Edits Good to have you along David, thanks for watching and do spread the word!
Last comment made me laugh! :-) Very well done mr Flyer! BBC could learn from you. Keep them coming!
Thanks John...
Black engine cases (like on my T100) would help with durability but the alloy probably looks better. If you're a shorty like me with only a short reach the mid controls + flat bars make you sit rather hunched up. The bars from the Speedmaster would cure this though.
Hi. You didn't comment on the rear shock. I love my Bobber (and I actually don't mind the rear lights) and can actually go about 100-110 miles between fill-ups. One thing that I am disappointed with is the rear shock/spring. I can easily bottom out the shock. Do you find a similar problem? I weight 230lbs, so I am above average weight. To me the biggest negative point of this bike, besides the small fuel tank, is the fact that the rear shock has not adjustment whatsoever. For a $12,000US+ bike in the States that is not too much to ask, at least the rear spring should be adjustable.
I never bottomed out the shock but have heard others have done so (as well as grind the footpegs....I didn't do that either!). Maybe I just ride like a school girl!!!
Appreciate the video as always. It's a shame Triumph didn't create this bike with a nod to practicality, not everyone can justify bikes purely as a fashion item, for most real motorcyclists the ability to use the bike as a real motorcycle with usability is more important than Triumph seem to realise. It bugs me they seem to be more concerned with fashion statements than bikes that that can be used as their owners desire. No reflection on you TMF, you've compiled a useful review as always.
It has to be said I'm a bigger fan of your reviews and channel than I am of modern day Triumph motorcycles. Enjoy the weekend.
cheers
tony
+antonoat Well this is the first Triumph I've ever ridden that I would regard as impractical (due fuel range)....I think all the other current Bonnies are spot on from a practical point of view...thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF
You may be right to a greater or lesser extent, lol. I just find bikes that are designed with fashion as their prime objective often miss their target audience by a mile. Cheers
As far as I know, all the 1200s and certainly the Bobber, have threaded inserts on the swingarms for jack stand bobbins. Makes chain maintenance a breeze.
The 900s OTOH lack this and unless you get a centerstand, it's going to be a PITA.
+saddlebag Jolly good - thanks for that....
I bought a new 22 of this bobber. I love it it's really nice. How ever there is one thing that more and more start to irritate me. And it's the gearing. 1-3 is perfect, but 4-6 is way too demanding in revs/speed. I honestly don't understand why it has 6 gears. I will probably never use the last one.
A very belated Thank you a for a great fully informative review. With any of your Bonneville bikes. Overall how’s the chain maintenance? How often do you clean your chain, lube it and have you had much chain droop? Any issues with your transmission? Would you suggest the Fox or any shock upgrades?
Have you tried the Quilted seat?
Oops! not the logo its self but the circular cap ornament next to the logo.
Lovely bike. Really like it. Nice review too. Thanks!
I’ve had a Triumph with spokes once; beautiful, but never again.
So let me see if I get this: the fuel light came on, and then you tanked 6.64 liters?
Yup.....
tyre valves - are they not usually straight? I keep a right angle adapter in my pocket permanently, (thank god as I was once asked to try out a friends BMW 1200 with 12 psi in the front!!!!) - it was raining to boot - scary stuff
Several manufacturers fit right angle valves as standard....so no, not always straight.
I said usually not always, why not show people the adapter and how to fit it - could be helpful tip
I was just looking at the bobber at the Triumph dealership on Saturday and it's a great looking bike, very tempting but I ended up putting a deposit down on the T120. Anything you can do over there to persuade Triumph to bump up production so I can get it sooner? I kid. I currently have a Yamaha Star Bolt (I think it's named differently in the UK and EU) and I found it's a feature (and complaint) of most, if not all, of the bobbers to have a small tank. I only get maybe 120 miles of travel out of my Bolt before I have to fill up. It's not an issue as I mostly drive around town, but out here in the western US, you have to plan well if you are going on a longer ride. All the best TMF!
You won’t have that issue with the T120 - congratulations on the new bike!
2 questions Mr. Flyer. What kind of soap do you use to wash your bikes? And have you ridden the new Speedmaster? If not I hope
you will be reviewing it soon. Thanks again and take care....Sal : )
Autoglym or meguires and no not yet but I do hope to in the summer - stay tuned!
Thank you sir. I will stay tuned!
How can you ride in the dark with a headlight like this? You can't literally see where you're going with a low beam (or so it seems).
Good evening Mr Flyer ;)
Another brilliant review my friend! Couple of questions for you today.
1. Would you change the front brake caliper set up if you bought one, including fitting steel braided hoses?
2. Did I spot "LACE UP" Steel toecap boots, on your feet Sir, whilst at the petrol station? (If so, please discuss! ha ha)
Cheers my friend,
Have a great weekend,
Ian; )
+Ian Rochester Thank you Ian, 1 - Yes and 2 - Yes (they are my prexport street boots, will do a review in due course as a few have asked)...
Ha ha, good man yourself!
look forward to it my friend!
Take care,
ian
An excellent, well-informed review. You hit all of the important points that one can only discover after riding it for a good while. I especially appreciate what you say about the fuel autonomy, which could be a deal-breaker for me, given that I often ride in places where it's not easy to find a petrol station. By the way, are all bike license plates in Britain as huge as that one? It really takes away from the look of the rear end.
I own a Ducati Scrambler, and I'm curious to know whether you've reviewed that bike.
...yes those number plates are huge aren't they, you can (illegally) fit smaller ones....and yes I have reviewed the Ducati Scrambler - if you search on my channel I'm sure you'll find it...thanks for watching and for the kind comments - TMF
Great review and very insightful! I'm planning to get this bike for daily office commute which is roughly 80 km up and down! Have a few questions:
1. Is the Bobber ideal for daily office commute? One way for me would be roughly 40km!
2. I don't like the idea of carrying a backpack, so is there an option to mount a bag on the sides of the rear? I would need one that can take a Laptop and some accessories!
I would appreciate your reply!
1 I can think of better bikes to commute on! And 2 not that I’m aware of (only smallish saddlebag type affairs).....sorry if these weren’t the answers you wanted!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply! If the Bobber does not cut these 2 points that I need in a bike, then I think it is not the one for me!
I'm now leaning towards the Bonneville T120 and I hope that it fits what I need!
I think this panier bag can take a Laptop and some accesories!
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Love the look & sound of the bike, the range is an issue another 30 miles with the light coming on at 80 would've been far more attractive. Enjoying the reviews, thank you great job.
Thank you Steve, and I agree, that fuel range would be a deal breaker for me...
A good honest review that makes wish I could compliment my 2011 TBird with a little brother for my county rides. :-)
Yeah it's a bugger isn't it, there's always "one more bike" out there eh!
love the look of these although the range has put me off,will now look at a r1200r. Great posts
You will get about 250 to 300 miles per tank on a R1200R!! Or plenty more depending how you ride..the r1200r will outclass in every aspect except looks basically
Good first bike for a beginner? I’ve heard that the T120 might be a bit much for a newbie but I saw this bike land on a few “best cruisers for beginners” list. What’s your opinion @TheMissendenFlyer.
Too much for a beginner - the T120 is easier to ride.....
Watched it again. Excellent review. If the riding range is not so short, it is a very good bike. I have ridden it too. It's a shame that I can't take this for long rides with that small tank.
+Mallik Kovuri Agreed to my mind the range is a show stopper...
What about the fat tyre on the front..they also do a narrow tyre .which one would be the best to go for..?
I have a 2003 Honda VLX 600 Shadow, and I thought that was low on mileage. The spec states it is _"2.91 gallon, (including .9gal reserve)"_. I get around 95 miles before I feel I really really need to fuel up. But wow, this thing is low.
I was curious. Could you due a video where you adjust/pull the set lower down and back? I know it's made to do that easily. I would love to seeing a straight on side shot of that to see the lines/profile of the bike. For my taste, the seat feels to high and forward compared to being nestled closer to the back tire.
Sadly it was only a loan bike and it's long been sent back to the Triumph factory at Hinkley :0(
Bit concerned about your corrosion issue. Have you tried GT85, or similar, on the surface? I know it's an oil, but an occasional wipe over with an oily rag might help with this? Bit of a disappointment, though.
Great, fun and lively bike, though. Big smiles! Think I might go for the mini-apes and Vance and Hines pipes (to annoy my neighbours!).
Well it's not actually my bike, if it were it would be thoroughly ACF50'd! Thanks for watching....
Gorgeous looking bike.
High Wycombe Mate is hell to ride through
You need to try Mumbai then!