I absolutely love my Triumph Bobber. I bought mine from a triumph dealership as a used and approved bike. The previous owner kindly fitted a Fox rear shock, which absorbs bumps brilliantly. I can ride for hours in comfort. My only gripe with the bike is the small fuel tank meaning many stops and the headlight. I wish it had much brighter LED. It always gets a crowd at any bike stop because you dont see too many on the roads. The modern retro looks seems to appeal to all bikers I meet. I can't stop smiling whenever I ride it 😁
I ended up opting for the Speedmaster last year (Goldline edition), but went for mid pegs and straight bars, so effectively a comfier Bobber. Absolutely love it!
I moved the seat on mine back to almost the maximum reach. It made a world of difference for leg comfort. I have a 2018 Bobber Black and I will never get rid of it. I love everything about it.
I own a 2021 Triumph Bobber and am 6'2" with an inseam of 34". I have the floorboards with the heel/toe gearshift, which for me makes a very comfortable position, neither too cramped nor too forward. Triumph no longer seem to offer this option when looking at the configurator on their website, which is a shame. Handling as you mentioned is surprisingly very good for this style of bike. My only criticism is the rather short travel of the suspension, which with a heavy rider like me, and badly maintained road surfaces, occasionally bottoms out. I love mine, and any sunny day we get is an excuse to get out and ride.
Sad that 90% of their bikes, esp 'affordable' one's, are for midget's. Head honcho's at Head office must find it difficult to stare over their desks when standing.
I haven't ridden the chrome edition, but I have ridden the standard one. I think the most impressive part of the Bobber is that it truly captures the soul essence of an American bobber (say, one built on a H-D Sportster). Not in that it has a rumbling V-twin or anything like that, but in that the rear brake does absolutely sod all to slow the bike down!
The segment you added at the end was fantastic; I got the same endorphin rush just watching it. A twisting country lane with a canopy of trees overhead on an English summer day. On a beautiful Triumph too. Life doesn’t get any better than this,,,
Lovely bike but expensive for something that’s not practical. My t120 wins all day…. Beautiful, powerful, tourer, commuter and desirable. That said if I was richer I’d have a bobber as a second bike.
My ears always prick up when l hear the words Special Edition, especially when Triumph say it. For here we have a bike made in Thailand 🇹🇭 not in England so NO JOBS for UK workers, which l find insulting when Triumph plaster the bike in the Union Flag 😮 But what exactly is this £14000 matt black ⚫️ special edition bike going to be use for, and I'd seriously love to know. You could buy Royal Enfield Super Meteor at half the price. Triumph needs to return home and focus on building proper quality motorcycles.
A lovely looking bike and as a detail I think the Triumph decal on the tank is a nice touch , generally I’m not a huge fan of the chrome editions Triumph are doing but I think that it suits the bobber quite well so overall a nice machine
I’ve had one from new 2020, apart from the rear shock (changed for a Hagon) I love it. Always gets attention and it’s great fun to ride. If you’re feeling cramped move the seat back! As for not seeing any there’s loads, I was at Bobhead a couple of weeks ago and there was at least 6.
With the new front end looks, the Bobber is a much nicer looking bike than when 1st released Imho. Not to sure if I'd pay the extra for the chrome edition, tho it looks ok. Also, comfort looks pretty none existent, but could be deceiving. Think I'd probably go for the Speedmaster. Thanks for another great video mr Flyer.
This is my bike, well a 2018. Love it and wouldn’t trade it in for anything. Seat is uncomfortable as well as rear shock, but that should be upgraded when time and money allows. As for long distance riding, well it takes a solid backside to do it without at least a rear suspension upgrade.
Is it just me but I don't see many examples of any new bikes on the road. And the riders all seem to be long in the teeth. It must be the cost of passing the test these days.
Love the look of this bike. The tank, paintwork and finish look great. I sat on one at the MCN show and there it's no chance I could cope with the seating position at 6ft 3". Seeing a photo of me on it I looked ridiculous. Sometimes it's styling over practically. The fuel tank is too small and I don't like that Triumph also reduced the tank size on the new Street Triple.
$20K (price in India) and not being able to use it as a tourer ? Speed Master is a more prudent choice for me.. Meanwhile, At $3.5K, I’ve my baby Triumph (Speed 400) which weighs around 170 Kgs with adequate power & torque, 13 L fuel tank and ability to mount tail bag, saddle bags !
Things you don't like about this Bobber: 1. Cramped riding position 2. Not very comfortable. Seat lacking padding. 3. Harsh hard ride. Needs to be softer. 4. Fuel tank small capacity. 5. Elastic bands securing cables/wiring on handle bars. 6. Single clock dial. Twin clocks would be preferable. 7. Ignition key on side of engine. 8. Steering lock separate from engine ignition key. 9. Fake carb(s). The Speedmaster looks a prettier more complete bike and makes for a much more practical bike imho. Wouldn't it be nice if Triumph could give the Speedmaster and Bobber belt drives? Also twin clock dials and a slightly larger fuel tank.
I'd like to borrow one for a weekend. No use for touring though, fitting a rear rack means drilling through the rear mudguard, & weight restrictive. Chrome detailing makes it look cheap - our local dealer has one, & the chrome finish looks rippled. I'll stick to my Speed Twin 1200.....does everything for me.
I've recently retired from a UK plastics factory that makes parts for Triumph. Believe it or not the engine covers are plastic as are a lot of Triumph parts, and all were shipped off to thailand, so british bike ? I don't think so and although I really like it I wouldn't buy one on that basis. If they lost all the union flag hype I'd think again but there are plenty of people in britain who would love to build motorbikes for a living and seeing as Triumph price their bikes as if they're made in britain they're profiting from cheap labour. BTW the roads near you are in an appalling state, same as here in north devon, national disgrace.
You mentioned you have not seen any. I'm in Sydney Australia and I have this exact bike in the chrome addition and absolutely love it! Purchased it February this year and already clocked up approx 11000km. In that time, I have not seen another either! There seems to be a winning noise in second gear at 60km/hr which was there from the beginning, apparently it's normal? Everything seems to be running nicely, just the noise is annoying. You need to either be below or above 60 for it to disappear and it only happens in 2nd gear. Out of interest, did you or anyone with this bike experience this?
Love your vids, I’m in the market for a Bobber as like you say, I hardly see any, I think 2 in the last year in the UK. I’d definately need a custom padded seat and get the rear shock changed for sure to save my Chalfonts from exploding with hard bumps 🤣😂 My biggest debate is how far do I go customising it, I have a custom shop in mind, a budget and all the gizmos and gadgets I want changing or added to my liking. The exhaust choice is a headache, so I’ll need to go either obnoxiously loud and unsociable or some with a grunt that will get through its MoT at a later date etc. The Bobber will be ideal as I’ve had a mad year on a Z900 RE as my first new bike in 30 years, the Rain mode to ease me back into two wheels lasted about an hour before I went boy racer 90’s fireblade mode 😂. I was going to trade up to a Z H2 SE but the Bobber is cheaper and can get brand new chrome edition for £11,995 new old stock! The rest will be spent on customising it 👍🍻
I appreciate that you need to be diplomatic with your reviews, but good value????? As an aside, what happened to the tank coach lining? Couldn't they afford RE's little Indian artist?
The front end looks quite good but the backend, especially the saddle, oh my. No room to move your behind on that too. The place of the ignition keys is ridiculous. No passenger or luggage possible so not that suitable for touring or commuting. I really don’t like the position of the mirrors. I want the normal ones and if possible more forward. The mudguards are very short so the bike and you will get dirty very quick in wet conditions. Very expensive too. Not really the bike for me. It’s about looks and bling. I prefer a bit more practicality and less standing out.
The type of bike to pop out for the afternoon on. It’s a bit if fantasy bike, but the reality is not very practical. Makes you look good with a pisspot helmet on and a cigar in your cake hole. I’d have one if money was no object and if I had the room, though I do (just) prefer the Indian Scout Bobber; maybe you could try that? Cheers
I had an early Bobber with the 9 litre tank. I always rode it in rain mode to smooth out the low speed snatchiness you could get around town. The offshoot of that was a return of 75mpg so the 9 litre (1.9 UK Gallon) tank was never a problem. If you ride like a twat and rev the knackers off it you're missing the point of the bike ...
I wonder if it's possible to get bobbins on that swingarm in order to use a rear stand for chain maintenance? I had a 2020 Street Twin and had to use a jack under the frame to get the rear wheel off the ground due to lack of bobbin holes on the swingarm. Looks like a similar issue here? I understand the Speed Twin does take bobbins?
I had a newer type Bobber until v recently. . And really enjoyed it for the 7000 miles I put on it. As you say not many around. . I even took it on a Rapid Training track day which was a hoot. . No-one had seen one taken on the track before! And yes plenty of peg scraping on the corners!! 😅
My friends have adventure bikes but I pick up my bobber next Friday, I will be going touring with them tho. Any mods or things you've done to help? Thanks
Once you’ve seen a Thornton Hundred Bobber anything vaguely stock doesn’t look much at all. I’d imagine the wider front wheel is down to TH. It’s the first thing they do.
Lovely bike , agree about the back end, I'd have to go for a side mounted number plate and a lot smaller mudguard, very tempted with one for my next bike.
Your Royal Enfield is so much more real. I just feel sick with the ideas fake carburetors! By the way, I owned a 2005 t120 when it was brand new. I'm thinking of going back to a 1972 750. It's just impractical for me but it doesn't hurt to dream.
G’day Missenden Flyer, During the video, you said that there are two modes: road & rain. My question for you is this…I’m curious what the rain mode actually changes on the bike? Handling I dare say but I really don’t know🤷♂️
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks mate. I appreciate it. Bike looks mint👌🏻. I love em. I’m sold, it’s officially my next bike. PS love ya channel, keep up the great work. Cheers from Australia 👍
I loved the look of it but my friend took a picture of me sat on it in the dealership. After looking at the picture I looked like an elephant on a scooter 😅😅.
I was looking at them in Chester Triumph on Friday while in for service,and love the cool looks of them.. Especially liked the Black&Grey tank colour..👌 Man I think I need 5 different bikes!!🤦♂️😅
Not my cup of tea but always enjoy your bike reviews. Now I might be alone in this but I actually like the piss pot brake fluid reservoirs on bikes and often it's the more expensive machines that have them and the cheaper ones that don't. Lamb chops has just reviewed the near 30 grand pikes peak Ducati which has them for clutch and brake. MotoGP bikes have them too🤔
At that price point, I'm a little surprised that the clutch is cabled and not hydraulic. Also, as you mentioned, it's surprising that there's only a single clock.
Yes a nice bike as are all the Triumph Twins, but the issue is the service charges at the dealers, for a simple engine they charge too much in my opinion, ruins a low cost running twin.
@@TheMissendenFlyer wow. Quick reply - many thanks 🙏. I’m 64yo so no Spring chicken. Would only look to do leisurely 150 mile max per day anyway I think. Just doing the sums (£) on a p.ex for a 2023 chrome Bobber against my 2022 Ninja650. I will subscribe to your channel, really like your down to earth style 😎
@@TheMissendenFlyer it was not a criticism of the bike or your video! It is just a fact, no luggage capacity, making the bike redundant to most folk, unless you go to the expense of saddle bags.
The quick flash disclaimer gave me Fight Club vibes. Took me a couple tries, but finally paused it at the right time. I'm sure I could have slowed the playback, but where's the fun in that? I watch a lot of your vids all the time... for a few years now and just realized I'm not even subscribed 🤦♂. You're always very informative. Keep up the great work!
The Rocket is my choice for the ultimate Triumph, and my second favorite cruiser closely behind Ducati's V-4 Diavel. Bonneville's being Thai built, are just not quite up to the Rocket in finish, IMHO. The Speed Twin is my favorite Bonneville.
Just as with the Speedmaster, the tank range is about 130 miles, not 100. When I bought my Speedmaster I was told it and the Bobber were now exactly the same bike except for the rear-end styling. On a personal note, Bobbers just don't blow my skirt up. That seat sort of tacked onto the back of the bike reminds me of piece of agricultural equipment, something you might see in a field being towed behind a tractor. 🙂The Bobber seat does have a rider weight limit of about 120KG I think, which may be a problem for some. Speedo is the same as the Speedmaster and I really like it. 'Vincentesque' as one reviewer put it. Agree about the elastic bands, which my Speedmaster also has, though I can't say I notice them when riding. Cheers and thanks for the vid! Vince
Tried the original, lovely engine nice looking but a daft range - just about enough to hop between petrol stations. But I suppose that means more posing !
Thanks for the review Andy, excellent as always. Were you using a different chin camera? The picture somehow looked different, maybe just the good light?
Well....I'm not a fan of the look....or any bobber style bikes to be fair. Ive never ridden one so may be if I had Id feel different Andy as you said you feel 'cool' riding it. The other problem I have is the price. This to me is a very simple looking bike with not a lot on it. I get thats appealing to many people for those sunday morning blasts but I think this is a £10k bike not £13k or so. May be thats one reason you dont see many???? But I think the main reason is its not a popular style of bike.....you dont see many bobbers full stop do you??? Well I dont in blighty. Good reveiw though...keep doing what your doing :-)
I’ve done 160 miles between fill ups on my speedmaster, granted slightly bigger tank & I was suffering from range anxiety as I was on the Nc 500 out in the sticks ,
I do like all your videos.. I have watched them for a while now, and I do recommend to friends.. Many of my friends already follow you, so that must be a credit to you and your production skills. Well done Sir, Simon (Lancashire).
I have the early bobber with the 9 litre tank and i must own the most economical one in the UK, based on peoples comments. I get a minimum of 130miles with at least a litre left in the tank on refills, i actually got to nearly 150 miles and it still had some fuel left, i ride it fairly hard too and it always says around 63 mpg and the dash no matter how i ride. I ride with pals who confirm the miles covered, so i know it's legit. The bike has a Booster plug and Vance & Hines, otherwise standard. I nearly did'nt buy it due to size of the tank, but it has really suprised me.
I couldn’t quite see the engine badge on your film but you said it was the same engine as your speed twin, is that correct?, I thought the bobber had the HT version of the 1200 twin, so would have the heavier crank, whereas the speed twin has the HP version of the engine. I have a Thruxton 1200 with the HP engine and once rode a Bonneville with the HT engine, it makes a huge difference to the way the engine responds , also the HP engine makes around 20bhp more than the HT engine and counter to the moniker slightly more torque as well.
From a consumer perspective, too bad more dealerships don’t rent their bikes. The Bobber is a good example of a bike I might buy, but I wouldn’t unless I rode it for at least a week or so over a decent distance. It’s next to impossible to feel the character and fit-to-purpose of a bike by sitting on it or even, with all due respect, watching TH-cam reviews. Would examining the pros and cons of a pre-purchase rental be a topic worth discussion?
Got one. Sounds great. Faster or the same speed as many litre sports bikes if on tight twisties due to it having more torque low down in the revs compared to sports bikes
After owning a bonneville for several years, the thought of any bike with spoked wheels fills me with dread! And they look completely impossible to clean on that front... I'd prefer a single disc!
I loved my original. The engine pulled like a train and sounded glorious, but as you say the front brake on the original was rubbish. I replaced it with a bigger disk and four pot brembo caliper. However ultimately I couldn't live with the lack of ground clearance. I dont see myself as a bargain bin Rossi, but it shouldn't drag its undercarriage at such modest lean angles. The rear suspension too was pretty basic one size fits all. It definitely benefits from an aftermarket shock.
I absolutely love my Triumph Bobber. I bought mine from a triumph dealership as a used and approved bike. The previous owner kindly fitted a Fox rear shock, which absorbs bumps brilliantly. I can ride for hours in comfort. My only gripe with the bike is the small fuel tank meaning many stops and the headlight. I wish it had much brighter LED.
It always gets a crowd at any bike stop because you dont see too many on the roads.
The modern retro looks seems to appeal to all bikers I meet.
I can't stop smiling whenever I ride it 😁
I ended up opting for the Speedmaster last year (Goldline edition), but went for mid pegs and straight bars, so effectively a comfier Bobber. Absolutely love it!
Prefer speedmaster over the bobber and you get cruise control, don't think the bobber as that.
Me too. Fantastic ride!
Funny what you say about not seeing them. I actually know someone who owns one but I've never actually seen one on the road.
Me neither!
Today I rode my new bobber with the Triumph owners group here in Pattaya Thailand. It was the only bobber there out of at least 45 bikes on the ride.
I moved the seat on mine back to almost the maximum reach. It made a world of difference for leg comfort. I have a 2018 Bobber Black and I will never get rid of it. I love everything about it.
Perhaps I should have tried that!
I own a 2021 Triumph Bobber and am 6'2" with an inseam of 34". I have the floorboards with the heel/toe gearshift, which for me makes a very comfortable position, neither too cramped nor too forward. Triumph no longer seem to offer this option when looking at the configurator on their website, which is a shame. Handling as you mentioned is surprisingly very good for this style of bike. My only criticism is the rather short travel of the suspension, which with a heavy rider like me, and badly maintained road surfaces, occasionally bottoms out. I love mine, and any sunny day we get is an excuse to get out and ride.
Sounds good to me....
Sad that 90% of their bikes, esp 'affordable' one's, are for midget's. Head honcho's at Head office must find it difficult to stare over their desks when standing.
I haven't ridden the chrome edition, but I have ridden the standard one. I think the most impressive part of the Bobber is that it truly captures the soul essence of an American bobber (say, one built on a H-D Sportster). Not in that it has a rumbling V-twin or anything like that, but in that the rear brake does absolutely sod all to slow the bike down!
Really cool looking bike, I wanted one when they first came out and this incarnation looks even better.
Lovely looking ,great engine. But with anybody , short or tall , it looks like a clowns bike especially from behind , pity .
I think it looks cool.
Although I do love the Bobber, still waiting for an interesting review of the new Guzzi V100 engine 😁
Not really my thing but it’s beautifully executed, I have to say I’m more looking forward to the two 400s, they’re going to sell like hot cakes!
I think so too / price permitting
The segment you added at the end was fantastic; I got the same endorphin rush just watching it. A twisting country lane with a canopy of trees overhead on an English summer day. On a beautiful Triumph too. Life doesn’t get any better than this,,,
Thanks for sticking around until the bitter end!
No self cancelling indicators,have a HD Rocker C too 17:56 . Bobber for fun for sure and prefer over the HD.
The gearing is too tall. Easily sorted by replacing front the sprocket for one with one tooth less
On bikes like these I just wish they would have fitted either belt or shaft final drive.
Great looking bike with great engine as all the Bonville range. Triumph make the best modern retro's by miles. I love my Scrambler 1200XE as I'm 6'2"
Have you ridden a Bobber or Speedmaster by chance?
Lovely bike but expensive for something that’s not practical. My t120 wins all day…. Beautiful, powerful, tourer, commuter and desirable. That said if I was richer I’d have a bobber as a second bike.
My ears always prick up when l hear the words Special Edition, especially when Triumph say it.
For here we have a bike made in Thailand 🇹🇭 not in England so NO JOBS for UK workers, which l find insulting when Triumph plaster the bike in the Union Flag 😮
But what exactly is this £14000 matt black ⚫️ special edition bike going to be use for, and I'd seriously love to know.
You could buy Royal Enfield Super Meteor at half the price.
Triumph needs to return home and focus on building proper quality motorcycles.
How much better this bike would look without that slab of a car radiator ...can't get past it...they don't belong on motorcycles. [yes, I'm old].
A lovely looking bike and as a detail I think the Triumph decal on the tank is a nice touch , generally I’m not a huge fan of the chrome editions Triumph are doing but I think that it suits the bobber quite well so overall a nice machine
A trivial point, but I wonder about the impact of a key fob on the finish on the cases. Swinging back and forth, bouncing a bit -- can't be good.
Yes I did wonder about that too - keyless just might make sense on this bike!
I’ve had one from new 2020, apart from the rear shock (changed for a Hagon) I love it. Always gets attention and it’s great fun to ride. If you’re feeling cramped move the seat back!
As for not seeing any there’s loads, I was at Bobhead a couple of weeks ago and there was at least 6.
Yes I wish I'd thought of trying that - I suspect may have made all the difference.....
With the new front end looks, the Bobber is a much nicer looking bike than when 1st released Imho. Not to sure if I'd pay the extra for the chrome edition, tho it looks ok. Also, comfort looks pretty none existent, but could be deceiving. Think I'd probably go for the Speedmaster. Thanks for another great video mr Flyer.
This is my bike, well a 2018. Love it and wouldn’t trade it in for anything. Seat is uncomfortable as well as rear shock, but that should be upgraded when time and money allows. As for long distance riding, well it takes a solid backside to do it without at least a rear suspension upgrade.
But global warming, the news says we are "global boiling" 😂
Is it just me but I don't see many examples of any new bikes on the road. And the riders all seem to be long in the teeth. It must be the cost of passing the test these days.
That is exactly it....plus the cost of new bikes!
I can see a lot of people, modding the bike and remove the rear full length mudguard for a smaller one.
Love the look of this bike. The tank, paintwork and finish look great. I sat on one at the MCN show and there it's no chance I could cope with the seating position at 6ft 3". Seeing a photo of me on it I looked ridiculous.
Sometimes it's styling over practically. The fuel tank is too small and I don't like that Triumph also reduced the tank size on the new Street Triple.
Yes defo a small persons machine!
Agree. I sat on one and looked like a bear on a scooter and I’m an inch smaller than you!
$20K (price in India) and not being able to use it as a tourer ? Speed Master is a more prudent choice for me..
Meanwhile, At $3.5K, I’ve my baby Triumph (Speed 400) which weighs around 170 Kgs with adequate power & torque, 13 L fuel tank and ability to
mount tail bag, saddle bags !
Cool - we’ve not even seen the 400s yet!
I love my chrome bobber. You need to tell how well it moves around corners. ❤
Things you don't like about this Bobber:
1. Cramped riding position
2. Not very comfortable. Seat lacking padding.
3. Harsh hard ride. Needs to be softer.
4. Fuel tank small capacity.
5. Elastic bands securing cables/wiring on handle bars.
6. Single clock dial. Twin clocks would be preferable.
7. Ignition key on side of engine.
8. Steering lock separate from engine ignition key.
9. Fake carb(s).
The Speedmaster looks a prettier more complete bike and makes for a much more practical bike imho.
Wouldn't it be nice if Triumph could give the Speedmaster and Bobber belt drives?
Also twin clock dials and a slightly larger fuel tank.
Sure would!
if i had the money i would buy this its just such amovie bike it has great looks and seems the engine is great
I'd like to borrow one for a weekend.
No use for touring though, fitting a rear rack means drilling through the rear mudguard, & weight restrictive.
Chrome detailing makes it look cheap - our local dealer has one, & the chrome finish looks rippled.
I'll stick to my Speed Twin 1200.....does everything for me.
Fair enough!
I've recently retired from a UK plastics factory that makes parts for Triumph. Believe it or not the engine covers are plastic as are a lot of Triumph parts, and all were shipped off to thailand, so british bike ? I don't think so and although I really like it I wouldn't buy one on that basis. If they lost all the union flag hype I'd think again but there are plenty of people in britain who would love to build motorbikes for a living and seeing as Triumph price their bikes as if they're made in britain they're profiting from cheap labour.
BTW the roads near you are in an appalling state, same as here in north devon, national disgrace.
They are indeed.....interesting what you say about the engine covers....plastic....surely not the engine cases??? I find that incredible!!
You mentioned you have not seen any. I'm in Sydney Australia and I have this exact bike in the chrome addition and absolutely love it!
Purchased it February this year and already clocked up approx 11000km. In that time, I have not seen another either!
There seems to be a winning noise in second gear at 60km/hr which was there from the beginning, apparently it's normal?
Everything seems to be running nicely, just the noise is annoying. You need to either be below or above 60 for it to disappear and it only happens in 2nd gear.
Out of interest, did you or anyone with this bike experience this?
I didn’t notice it!
Love your vids, I’m in the market for a Bobber as like you say, I hardly see any, I think 2 in the last year in the UK. I’d definately need a custom padded seat and get the rear shock changed for sure to save my Chalfonts from exploding with hard bumps 🤣😂
My biggest debate is how far do I go customising it, I have a custom shop in mind, a budget and all the gizmos and gadgets I want changing or added to my liking. The exhaust choice is a headache, so I’ll need to go either obnoxiously loud and unsociable or some with a grunt that will get through its MoT at a later date etc.
The Bobber will be ideal as I’ve had a mad year on a Z900 RE as my first new bike in 30 years, the Rain mode to ease me back into two wheels lasted about an hour before I went boy racer 90’s fireblade mode 😂. I was going to trade up to a Z H2 SE but the Bobber is cheaper and can get brand new chrome edition for £11,995 new old stock! The rest will be spent on customising it 👍🍻
I appreciate that you need to be diplomatic with your reviews, but good value????? As an aside, what happened to the tank coach lining? Couldn't they afford RE's little Indian artist?
Actually I don’t need to be diplomatic…..
Lovely bike and much better now the front breaks have twin discs 👍
Yes I agree
I loved it when i test rode one, so much so that i pick up my Bobber Chrome next week. :)
Hey congratulations! Enjoy your new bike.....exciting times....
The front end looks quite good but the backend, especially the saddle, oh my. No room to move your behind on that too.
The place of the ignition keys is ridiculous.
No passenger or luggage possible so not that suitable for touring or commuting.
I really don’t like the position of the mirrors. I want the normal ones and if possible more forward.
The mudguards are very short so the bike and you will get dirty very quick in wet conditions.
Very expensive too.
Not really the bike for me. It’s about looks and bling. I prefer a bit more practicality and less standing out.
Yes I'm guessing this isn't the bike for you then!
The type of bike to pop out for the afternoon on. It’s a bit if fantasy bike, but the reality is not very practical. Makes you look good with a pisspot helmet on and a cigar in your cake hole. I’d have one if money was no object and if I had the room, though I do (just) prefer the Indian Scout Bobber; maybe you could try that?
Cheers
Yes I'd like a crack on that.....
I had an early Bobber with the 9 litre tank. I always rode it in rain mode to smooth out the low speed snatchiness you could get around town. The offshoot of that was a return of 75mpg so the 9 litre (1.9 UK Gallon) tank was never a problem. If you ride like a twat and rev the knackers off it you're missing the point of the bike ...
Well indeed - it's not that type of machine is it....
Man those english road are claustrophobic with those trees and hedges blocking the view. I’d always be paranoid of something like a deer jumping out.
You get used to it - plus we have no choice!!!
Absolutely love this bike for its style! The price in the Netherlands is a bit eye watering however: €19.300 stock. I can’t justify it unfortunately 😢
Crikey!
The chrome tank really works on this bike. Looks good!
Fisher price toy from the 80's! 😂😂😂
The bobber is my first bike, had it customised and looks like a proper custom bike now! Can’t wait for summer. Great content as always
Have fun when the sun comes out!
I wonder if it's possible to get bobbins on that swingarm in order to use a rear stand for chain maintenance? I had a 2020 Street Twin and had to use a jack under the frame to get the rear wheel off the ground due to lack of bobbin holes on the swingarm. Looks like a similar issue here? I understand the Speed Twin does take bobbins?
Good point - and yes I have bobbins on my Speed Twin (not that I have ever used them!)
I had a newer type Bobber until v recently. . And really enjoyed it for the 7000 miles I put on it. As you say not many around. . I even took it on a Rapid Training track day which was a hoot. . No-one had seen one taken on the track before! And yes plenty of peg scraping on the corners!! 😅
Cool - what a larf!!!
HD did this in the 1990s & it also failed to sell....
Absolutely love my bobber, trip through France, Stelvio pass to lake Garda and back to Suffolk , it was perfect 👍👍👍
Sounds fabulous!
My friends have adventure bikes but I pick up my bobber next Friday, I will be going touring with them tho. Any mods or things you've done to help? Thanks
I just looked at one of these and its a lot smaller than i had though.
Ignition key switch position is ridiculous but not the only Triumph to suffer from this design blunder.
I agree!
I'm really not a fan of bobbers, I personally think they look utterly unbalanced aesthetically, but at least it's two wheels !!
There is that!
Once you’ve seen a Thornton Hundred Bobber anything vaguely stock doesn’t look much at all. I’d imagine the wider front wheel is down to TH. It’s the first thing they do.
Yes they do look cool don't they - although I'm not sure about that twisty exhaust they've started doing.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Indeed. I bet they are so loud!
251kg!😲... how do they manage to make it weigh that much!?
:0)
Lovely bike , agree about the back end, I'd have to go for a side mounted number plate and a lot smaller mudguard, very tempted with one for my next bike.
Cool!
Your Royal Enfield is so much more real. I just feel sick with the ideas fake carburetors! By the way, I owned a 2005 t120 when it was brand new. I'm thinking of going back to a 1972 750. It's just impractical for me but it doesn't hurt to dream.
G’day Missenden Flyer,
During the video, you said that there are two modes: road & rain. My question for you is this…I’m curious what the rain mode actually changes on the bike? Handling I dare say but I really don’t know🤷♂️
Softens throttle response and turns up traction control and ABS is my bet….
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks mate. I appreciate it. Bike looks mint👌🏻. I love em. I’m sold, it’s officially my next bike. PS love ya channel, keep up the great work. Cheers from Australia 👍
I loved the look of it but my friend took a picture of me sat on it in the dealership. After looking at the picture I looked like an elephant on a scooter 😅😅.
Yeah not a good look that is it.....
MID set pegs for the win!
More bike tours! Especially on different bikes if you can get away with potentially less storage space. Or maybe a Roadglide...
I was looking at them in Chester Triumph on Friday while in for service,and love the cool looks of them.. Especially liked the Black&Grey tank colour..👌
Man I think I need 5 different bikes!!🤦♂️😅
What is the point of it. Not a cruiser, tourer etc and no room for a pillion. May be I’m missing the point.
I think it’s just a bit of fun!
@@TheMissendenFlyer there you go I knew I was missing something!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I knew I was missing something!
I think the 100 miles range you got on your first test ride was with the 9 litre tank not the 12 litre tank.
That is true…..
All the fun is in the corners
I take it you didn't want to stop outside the PM'S country pile😂
Not this time…..
Not my cup of tea but always enjoy your bike reviews. Now I might be alone in this but I actually like the piss pot brake fluid reservoirs on bikes and often it's the more expensive machines that have them and the cheaper ones that don't. Lamb chops has just reviewed the near 30 grand pikes peak Ducati which has them for clutch and brake. MotoGP bikes have them too🤔
The later 2018 models started having dual discs at the front I believe it was only the 2016 and 17 models with a singer calliper
At that price point, I'm a little surprised that the clutch is cabled and not hydraulic. Also, as you mentioned, it's surprising that there's only a single clock.
your small print was almost impossible to read. but i got it
Well done 👍
Where did you get your gloves? They look cool.
Bikerheadz!
Just looks too small 😏
Yes a nice bike as are all the Triumph Twins, but the issue is the service charges at the dealers, for a simple engine they charge too much in my opinion, ruins a low cost running twin.
Great review. Really want to get one. I’m planning to go Portugal next year from uk. Do you think that might be a bit much ?
No I think that’s probably doable - don’t do too many miles per day though…250 max I’d say.
@@TheMissendenFlyer wow. Quick reply - many thanks 🙏. I’m 64yo so no Spring chicken. Would only look to do leisurely 150 mile max per day anyway I think. Just doing the sums (£) on a p.ex for a 2023 chrome Bobber against my 2022 Ninja650. I will subscribe to your channel, really like your down to earth style 😎
150 milers per day - no issue then.....enjoy!
The only issue with this bike is no luggage capability. That is enough to rule it out for me. It is never the less a sexy bike. Thanks
Fair enough!
@@TheMissendenFlyer it was not a criticism of the bike or your video! It is just a fact, no luggage capacity, making the bike redundant to most folk, unless you go to the expense of saddle bags.
that bike ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P none of ya dakkar rubbish! :P
Isn't that why you call it "Blighty"?
What is?
I love the bike but agree cfront cables should be hidden tidied up and they should have made it belt drive instead of chain otherwise great 👍
Looks well, but as it stands in the vid chain maintenance could be a issue without paddock stands or the likes?
The quick flash disclaimer gave me Fight Club vibes. Took me a couple tries, but finally paused it at the right time. I'm sure I could have slowed the playback, but where's the fun in that? I watch a lot of your vids all the time... for a few years now and just realized I'm not even subscribed 🤦♂. You're always very informative. Keep up the great work!
Hey welcome along!
The Rocket is my choice for the ultimate Triumph, and my second favorite cruiser closely behind Ducati's V-4 Diavel. Bonneville's being Thai built, are just not quite up to the Rocket in finish, IMHO. The Speed Twin is my favorite Bonneville.
Mine too!
Not my style of bike but Triumph have to be congratulated for producing something different. The Speed Twin 1200 is still my favourite
Mine too!
Just as with the Speedmaster, the tank range is about 130 miles, not 100. When I bought my Speedmaster I was told it and the Bobber were now exactly the same bike except for the rear-end styling.
On a personal note, Bobbers just don't blow my skirt up. That seat sort of tacked onto the back of the bike reminds me of piece of agricultural equipment, something you might see in a field being towed behind a tractor. 🙂The Bobber seat does have a rider weight limit of about 120KG I think, which may be a problem for some.
Speedo is the same as the Speedmaster and I really like it. 'Vincentesque' as one reviewer put it. Agree about the elastic bands, which my Speedmaster also has, though I can't say I notice them when riding.
Cheers and thanks for the vid!
Vince
Thanks for watching as ever Vince!
Tried the original, lovely engine nice looking but a daft range - just about enough to hop between petrol stations. But I suppose that means more posing !
Well that is the type of bike it is - so no worries there as far as I'm concerned....
There are lots of them here in California
Perfect West Coast bike I would think!
Thanks for the review Andy, excellent as always. Were you using a different chin camera? The picture somehow looked different, maybe just the good light?
Same camera as ever - the light makes all the difference with these GoPros.....
Well....I'm not a fan of the look....or any bobber style bikes to be fair. Ive never ridden one so may be if I had Id feel different Andy as you said you feel 'cool' riding it. The other problem I have is the price. This to me is a very simple looking bike with not a lot on it. I get thats appealing to many people for those sunday morning blasts but I think this is a £10k bike not £13k or so. May be thats one reason you dont see many???? But I think the main reason is its not a popular style of bike.....you dont see many bobbers full stop do you??? Well I dont in blighty. Good reveiw though...keep doing what your doing :-)
Cheers - will do!
I’ve done 160 miles between fill ups on my speedmaster, granted slightly bigger tank & I was suffering from range anxiety as I was on the Nc 500 out in the sticks ,
Wow - that's pretty decent.....
😊 nice bike but the speedmaster is my fav .nice review sir
I do like all your videos..
I have watched them for a while now, and I do recommend to friends..
Many of my friends already follow you, so that must be a credit to you and your production skills.
Well done Sir,
Simon (Lancashire).
Wow - thank you very much Simon - much appreciated!
I have the early bobber with the 9 litre tank and i must own the most economical one in the UK, based on peoples comments.
I get a minimum of 130miles with at least a litre left in the tank on refills, i actually got to nearly 150 miles and it still had some fuel left, i ride it fairly hard too and it always says around 63 mpg and the dash no matter how i ride.
I ride with pals who confirm the miles covered, so i know it's legit.
The bike has a Booster plug and Vance & Hines, otherwise standard.
I nearly did'nt buy it due to size of the tank, but it has really suprised me.
That is good to hear - thoroughly useable then....
I couldn’t quite see the engine badge on your film but you said it was the same engine as your speed twin, is that correct?, I thought the bobber had the HT version of the 1200 twin, so would have the heavier crank, whereas the speed twin has the HP version of the engine.
I have a Thruxton 1200 with the HP engine and once rode a Bonneville with the HT engine, it makes a huge difference to the way the engine responds , also the HP engine makes around 20bhp more than the HT engine and counter to the moniker slightly more torque as well.
To be fair I didn't check so you may be right - my bad!
From a consumer perspective, too bad more dealerships don’t rent their bikes. The Bobber is a good example of a bike I might buy, but I wouldn’t unless I rode it for at least a week or so over a decent distance. It’s next to impossible to feel the character and fit-to-purpose of a bike by sitting on it or even, with all due respect, watching TH-cam reviews. Would examining the pros and cons of a pre-purchase rental be a topic worth discussion?
Yes fair point…..
Great overview Andy could I ask what you think of the Segura Butch glove your wearing ? And the sizing accurate 😊 Pete
I love em / and yes, sizing is fine…
Lovely ride through some beautiful English villages, absolutely breathtaking ❤
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching.....
Why do they call them bobbers
Because they’ve been Bobbed
Got one. Sounds great. Faster or the same speed as many litre sports bikes if on tight twisties due to it having more torque low down in the revs compared to sports bikes
HA! Most things are, but as usual, its rider dependant.
After owning a bonneville for several years, the thought of any bike with spoked wheels fills me with dread! And they look completely impossible to clean on that front... I'd prefer a single disc!
Fair do's.....you do you!
Beautiful bike coupled with (as ever) genuine reflections,....I wonder if BMW will let you out on the newbies? Hope so!
I've asked!
I loved my original. The engine pulled like a train and sounded glorious, but as you say the front brake on the original was rubbish. I replaced it with a bigger disk and four pot brembo caliper. However ultimately I couldn't live with the lack of ground clearance. I dont see myself as a bargain bin Rossi, but it shouldn't drag its undercarriage at such modest lean angles. The rear suspension too was pretty basic one size fits all. It definitely benefits from an aftermarket shock.
Fair enough!