I don’t know how TH-cam algorithms work but for all the effort this lovely man puts in he should have at least 100k subs.from lock down songs to organised events he never stops,and always with a smile,and never judgemental on anything.other motorcycle channels will swear be sexist blah blah and have 5 x the subs. I don’t get it .COME ON TH-cam SORT IT OUT.keep it up Mr Vida we appreciate it 👍
For me it would be the Triumph. I love the way it delivers the best of both worlds, the grunt of a twin and the high end of a quad. Plus, the sound is unbelievable!
Great vid, I luvvvvvv my Speed RS for all the reasons you talked about but particularly the engine noise and induction roar...and the way it just romps away in 4th, 5th & 6th..luv it!!
That Speed Triple sounds utterly fantastic. Though I'm curious what a Two Brothers slip-on would sound like. I know they're not to everyone's liking, but I enjoy the sound of them....
You're a man of good taste Rich. Speed wins hands down. I love the chorus when I give it some from 2nd to 3rd on my 2018 RS. Cheers from Melbourne mate 👍
Great video. As you say, they're very different bikes. The trick is going to be whether the new Triple, with very nearly the same power and torque as the Super Duke, retains the enjoyability of the 1050. Certainly going to be fun finding out!
Been trying to make my mind up about changing my Super Duke 990R...for either the 1290 or the 1050 RS. This video helped me steer for the triple gravy. Great video. Thanks!
The choice is really simple for me. The sound from the Speed Triple is Naughty. It's a naughty bike. For me it's almost like I can hear the bike taunt me saying: Ohh come on you p****, you can take that turn faster than that. On top of that the Speed Triple dimentions is a perfect fit for me.
I would take the triumph based on reliability alone. Had KTM and it was awesome but I always wondered when I turned the key it on if it was going to have another gremlin
Enjoyed vid Richy you must try the new super duke as another level to gen 2 one I went touring through the Black Forest on gen 2 one but now own gen 3 it’s so much better but Triumph is a great bike and sound brilliant can’t wait to be out and about again 👍keep safe
Great video Richy. Two totally different bikes but both lovely for different reasons. Hopefully the new speed 1200 adds a bit of that Arnie but keeps the rest of the good stuff.
Nice work Richy! My speedy is more than enough for me at my ol, age (57). I’m sure the super duke would give me nightmares! Would love a pop on one tho. 👍🏻
Both are pretty wild bikes -- think I'd have the Triumph for the sound. Had my first ride of the season here in Canada today... +8 degrees! Feels funny riding when there's still 2 feet of snow on the ground (and road salt).
@@RichyVida Of course -- a nice long hot shower afterwards ✨🏍️ 😎 Worth it to finally be back out on the bike. Probably won't be much riding until early April though, typical for Ontario. Wouldn't make it through winter without content like yours! Safe riding
Great video, nice and honest and unbiased 👍👍 I am a wee bit biased though as I have always had Triumph Triples they sound amazing. I fell totally in love with the RS when I rode one a couple of years ago but ended up with a Tiger 1200 XRT as we were looking for a bike to do a European trip on 2 up. My partner now has her own Street Triple which she loves so I am back looking to swap the XRT for an RS. Cheers Paul 🇬🇧
What a comparison, it's like your mate Dave, always a great laugh, no event is the same without Dave, everyone likes him but you're worried your lass likes him a bit too much. Or Ian, never know when he's gonna turn up or what he's been doing but he comes at ya past 10pm, with his mad staring eyes and says "I've got an idea.... " Or, "We've got to leave,... now....."
Thats a Gen 2, I dont know if it has a 'track mode' (even crazier than sport) but Gen 3 does, its insanely fun. and the supernakeds are so competitive these days, the MT10 has a great sound, tuono as well
Reading between the lines and not taking it too serious like you said I'm edging on the side of the KTM is a little ( whats the word ) "Awee bit too Dedicated?" for the Queens highways ? Great video Best regards Shaun
The Duke is like war and it's ok! The Speedy is for riders who want's to ride fast and smooth. I prefer the Speed triple, because i'm not on a warpath but on search for the relaxed powercruising. Very nice Video and many greetings from germany!
I’ve had quite a few Triumphs over the years but having had 2 1290 KTMs the engine is just addictive. 2500 miles on a 1050 isn’t even properly run in, I always felt it took to around 6000 miles before it was loosened up properly
G'day Ritchie. I have ridden the KTM, but not the Speed Triple as yet. KTM is way too much of a beast for my taste. My licence would dissappear in a heartbeat!! Thanks for the vid mate, stay safe.
Triumph does it for me, the top end rasp with the low end tone certainly is tuned to the human frequency, think in the hertz range level of ‘porn’. You seemed more flowing and agile on the Triumph but I suppose it is smaller, you deffo seemed to commit more on it and you had a different sound of excitement in your voice, the KTM you expressed the power but the Triumph I picked up that kiddy excitement tone. Also, how come your getting wind noise in your lid, is it because of the naked bikes or have you a different setup. Audio still bucket clear but picked up wind noise I never normally hear from you. Mega vid ❤️🤘🏻
Hi Rich, awesome comparison as usual, but a question in reference with servicing between the two beauties. Such as routine oil , plugs, oil filters, air filter and valve shim clearance checks which bike would be easier for the fellows who do it themselves? Love your channel and riding crew 😃
I always ask if I would part with my own hard earned shekels. And it can only be a no for the big orange one, because of all the well publicised issues. No bike sounds sexy on a mechanics ramp. So it's the ATAS please. Reliability is never boring. Happy travels
That triple sound takes some beating! Of course I'm biased ! But like you say they are not of the same ilk, tough one, looking at the 1290s performance it seems only usable on a race track so when it does try to kill you you'll at least have half a chance ! 👌👍❤
Great idea to compare. Though should go 2020 duke with 2020 triple. I do understand that to get a 2020 duke again wouldn't be an easy feat. So I guess u took that in consideration. I think the triple is the thoroughbred racing horse and the Duke is the raging bull
For me the Speed Triple because the Superduke is to powerful for any of us mere mortals and has no real place for anything other than a day bag and yes its not a tourer but most of all the vids I have seen of people not being able to do basic jobs easily for basic maintenance. I rode a KTM for two years motocrossing and its probably the best bike I used in competition but it was also a absolute bugger to maintain quickly and easily. Given the choice I would have the less brutal Triumph.
My occasionally visiting friend from Illinois always gives me shit when she's here and wants me to buy or pay for something, and I'm like "Dude, money does not randomly fall off of me or appear when I hop up and down"... That being said Rich...I'm starting to feel that when YOU hop up and down long enough...random motorcycles just appear lol! :) Another great vid, cheers, as always, from sunny Phoenix! :)
Your garage is like a magic hat never no what youl pull out rich.speed triple I could live with the super Duke I need my wits about me all the time great video
Comparisons just like this has pushed Triumph to up the anti with the latest 1200 model. Let's hope it's doesn't become too much, for the road. Triple engine beats a twin in the real world riding all day. Good to see the flat cap has been dropped on the 1200 over the twin lights, too.
the 2021 speedtriple will be the bike of the year but the 2020 ktm super Duke is supposed more refined tuning if I want to test ride the Triumph I've been told the dealer closest to me 8 have to order it don't know if I'm willing to sight unseen but I think it's going to be that good
The older SD's are heavier that the Speed and have no Preload adjustment on the forks. The Speed is a better track weapon even with the 28 Bhp deficit (check Michael Rutter's lap times at Donington). Unless you go for the 2020 SD you'll always feel divided.
At the moment Richy I'd have Arnie in Predator over Van Damme in Time Cop all day long. But a new 1200 RS could be the Terminator and change everything.
Great video the triumph speed triple rs is a lovely bike as I own on but the KTM i can't comment on because I have never been on one but what I have heard about the bike it's a bit of a animal stay safe looking forward to more videos 🇬🇧👍
Both seem great bikes. But I think the Triumph sounds better. For me looks a bit better. The power of the KTM as you say is greater. Will be interesting to see the 1200 speed triple v the 1290 super duke
I'm leaning towards the Speed Triple RS myself. I prefer the sound track and i have no need for a wheelie monster. But i 100% understand people who prefer the Super Duke R.💖 💖👏🏼👏🏼
Nice video. Can't say that I'm not jealous, being able to ride both of these beauties at will. I do have one question though: if the speed triple is Van Damme and the KTM is Schwarzenegger, would that mean that Tuono is Stallone?
Before watching the video, I said to the mrs that u'd prefer the Triumph, maybe take the superduke back out, but next time put it in sports mode (full fat mode) to get the full experience...I use to work for a Triumph dealership and the RS is the same bike as the R and there's not a lot of difference 4 hp more over the R, they are nice to ride, but it's not a superduke, I've got a 1290 GT and that's the same thing, bonkers....
Sounds like the choice was between an "Axe murderer versus a kitchen knife stabber". Let's wait for the new 1200 to see what brand of delinquency Triumph has got for us.
Let’s be honest. They’re both stupid fast. One is smooth and more refined while climbing the RPM’s while the other is a bit savage. As a daily I’d pick the Triumph but for the weekends I’d want the KTM in the garage. As it stands now I’ll keep my KTM 1290 GT since I prefer a bit of wind protection to go along with my 173 horses.
What a dilemma, now I’ve said elsewhere, KTM for me. Are you prewired for a type of bike? Could be... as I’ve not been a Triumph person with the exception of the Speed Twin. Great comparison, of two quite different bikes in what the do and how they do it. Take care.
The SuperDukeR is always an occasion when you ride one, it feels like a nutter bike - but I'm with you Rich, I'd have the Trumpet.......
DOH... i read this comment before I watched the end of the vid!!!! spoiler !!!
thanks for the spoiler TMF
I don’t know how TH-cam algorithms work but for all the effort this lovely man puts in he should have at least 100k subs.from lock down songs to organised events he never stops,and always with a smile,and never judgemental on anything.other motorcycle channels will swear be sexist blah blah and have 5 x the subs. I don’t get it .COME ON TH-cam SORT IT OUT.keep it up Mr Vida we appreciate it 👍
I don't get it, either. But, it is what it is. Thanks for your kind words.
Totally agree, very hard working and great content
110% agree as well.
For me it would be the Triumph. I love the way it delivers the best of both worlds, the grunt of a twin and the high end of a quad. Plus, the sound is unbelievable!
11:25 Missed opportunity to say _"Just these, peas."_ 🤣
Great vid, I luvvvvvv my Speed RS for all the reasons you talked about but particularly the engine noise and induction roar...and the way it just romps away in 4th, 5th & 6th..luv it!!
That Speed Triple sounds utterly fantastic. Though I'm curious what a Two Brothers slip-on would sound like. I know they're not to everyone's liking, but I enjoy the sound of them....
You're a man of good taste Rich. Speed wins hands down. I love the chorus when I give it some from 2nd to 3rd on my 2018 RS. Cheers from Melbourne mate 👍
Great video. As you say, they're very different bikes. The trick is going to be whether the new Triple, with very nearly the same power and torque as the Super Duke, retains the enjoyability of the 1050. Certainly going to be fun finding out!
Great video thanks Richy, love comparison tests and wow two awesome bikes, can't wait to try that triple 1200 when the new Triumph comes out.
Been trying to make my mind up about changing my Super Duke 990R...for either the 1290 or the 1050 RS. This video helped me steer for the triple gravy. Great video. Thanks!
The choice is really simple for me. The sound from the Speed Triple is Naughty. It's a naughty bike. For me it's almost like I can hear the bike taunt me saying: Ohh come on you p****, you can take that turn faster than that. On top of that the Speed Triple dimentions is a perfect fit for me.
You seemed to be having more fun on the Speed Triple RS.
Great vid mate. I really can’t choose.. I love the way they both sound. 👍
I would take the triumph based on reliability alone. Had KTM and it was awesome but I always wondered when I turned the key it on if it was going to have another gremlin
First time watching your channel.Excellent revue.Will now watch your previous videos,and look forward to more.
Welcome aboard!
Enjoyed vid Richy you must try the new super duke as another level to gen 2 one I went touring through the Black Forest on gen 2 one but now own gen 3 it’s so much better but Triumph is a great bike and sound brilliant can’t wait to be out and about again 👍keep safe
I’ve had the Gen3 in a couple of times 👍
The camera quality is absolutely superb
Great video Richy. Two totally different bikes but both lovely for different reasons. Hopefully the new speed 1200 adds a bit of that Arnie but keeps the rest of the good stuff.
Nice work Richy! My speedy is more than enough for me at my ol, age (57). I’m sure the super duke would give me nightmares! Would love a pop on one tho. 👍🏻
When you’ve tried the 1200rs get yourself up to Scarborough and ride a properly sorted 2020 Superduke R (mine)
Agree
Put a Scorpion red power can on my SuperDuke R, sounds 10 times better. BTW, I know every inch of that loop. Been riding it since 1976. Nice vid.
Oh Christ that speed triple sound, I cant think of another road bike that sounds that good. 😍
Tuono V4.
@@alexmorgan3435 nice but I do still prefer the Triumph. 👍
Both are pretty wild bikes -- think I'd have the Triumph for the sound. Had my first ride of the season here in Canada today... +8 degrees! Feels funny riding when there's still 2 feet of snow on the ground (and road salt).
Hope you cleaned it after? 👍
@@RichyVida Of course -- a nice long hot shower afterwards ✨🏍️ 😎 Worth it to finally be back out on the bike. Probably won't be much riding until early April though, typical for Ontario. Wouldn't make it through winter without content like yours! Safe riding
Your productions are uplifting. Thank you...
Thanks Steve. Really god you like them 👍
Great video, nice and honest and unbiased 👍👍 I am a wee bit biased though as I have always had Triumph Triples they sound amazing. I fell totally in love with the RS when I rode one a couple of years ago but ended up with a Tiger 1200 XRT as we were looking for a bike to do a European trip on 2 up. My partner now has her own Street Triple which she loves so I am back looking to swap the XRT for an RS. Cheers Paul 🇬🇧
Riding that loop! Just shows how little of the power and performance of both bikes , that you can use on UK roads ??
What a comparison, it's like your mate Dave, always a great laugh, no event is the same without Dave, everyone likes him but you're worried your lass likes him a bit too much.
Or Ian, never know when he's gonna turn up or what he's been doing but he comes at ya past 10pm, with his mad staring eyes and says "I've got an idea.... "
Or, "We've got to leave,... now....."
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Grate video as always RichyVida.Unfair comparison. You were giving the Duke the peas.
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Speed Triple for me. I look forward to trying a new 1200. I can see you having one
I think when doing product placement for vegetables, the sponsor would appreciate a mention of the brand name. ;-)
Haha 👍👍
Thats a Gen 2, I dont know if it has a 'track mode' (even crazier than sport) but Gen 3 does, its insanely fun.
and the supernakeds are so competitive these days, the MT10 has a great sound, tuono as well
Hopefully Yamaha hits MT10 with the update stick eventually.
That stable of bikes is fantastic, think I’d ride the VFR.
Tuono next ?
Sd1290r for me everyday of the week but I am bias good vid rich 👍🏼👌 and well said on not upsetting your channel sponsors or your friends 😂👌
An interesting expression, “It looks the business.” One of those necessary unmeasurables.
yeh but the superduke is not the gen 3 one
Never said it was? I’ve had the Gen3 as you may or may not know.. 👍
Reading between the lines and not taking it too serious like you said
I'm edging on the side of the KTM is a little ( whats the word ) "Awee bit too Dedicated?" for the Queens highways ?
Great video
Best regards Shaun
The Duke is like war and it's ok! The Speedy is for riders who want's to ride fast and smooth.
I prefer the Speed triple, because i'm not on a warpath but on search for the relaxed powercruising.
Very nice Video and many greetings from germany!
Good comparison video Richy
I’ve had quite a few Triumphs over the years but having had 2 1290 KTMs the engine is just addictive. 2500 miles on a 1050 isn’t even properly run in, I always felt it took to around 6000 miles before it was loosened up properly
What an honest review 😆👍🏻 subbed!
I really enjoyed that upload thanks Richy! Which one turns more heads? The KTM?
My bro has the 1050RS and I've got a Duke 790, I always get the randoms come ask questions, he doesn't but he prefers it that way. lol
G'day Ritchie. I have ridden the KTM, but not the Speed Triple as yet. KTM is way too much of a beast for my taste. My licence would dissappear in a heartbeat!! Thanks for the vid mate, stay safe.
That Triumph is a gorgeous sounding bike, no doubt. Not a patch on the beautiful tones of a VFR though.
Just what I was thinking!😂
youve not ridden my tuono yet richy and the offer is still there mate
Thank you, David. I’d certainly like the opportunity to ride a bike I’ve never ridden before 👍
@@RichyVida once its first service is done mate it wont be a problem
Triumph does it for me, the top end rasp with the low end tone certainly is tuned to the human frequency, think in the hertz range level of ‘porn’.
You seemed more flowing and agile on the Triumph but I suppose it is smaller, you deffo seemed to commit more on it and you had a different sound of excitement in your voice, the KTM you expressed the power but the Triumph I picked up that kiddy excitement tone.
Also, how come your getting wind noise in your lid, is it because of the naked bikes or have you a different setup. Audio still bucket clear but picked up wind noise I never normally hear from you.
Mega vid ❤️🤘🏻
Hi Rich, awesome comparison as usual, but a question in reference with servicing between the two beauties. Such as routine oil , plugs, oil filters, air filter and valve shim clearance checks which bike would be easier for the fellows who do it themselves? Love your channel and riding crew 😃
I always ask if I would part with my own hard earned shekels. And it can only be a no for the big orange one, because of all the well publicised issues. No bike sounds sexy on a mechanics ramp.
So it's the ATAS please. Reliability is never boring.
Happy travels
That triple sound takes some beating! Of course I'm biased ! But like you say they are not of the same ilk, tough one, looking at the 1290s performance it seems only usable on a race track so when it does try to kill you you'll at least have half a chance ! 👌👍❤
Great idea to compare. Though should go 2020 duke with 2020 triple. I do understand that to get a 2020 duke again wouldn't be an easy feat. So I guess u took that in consideration. I think the triple is the thoroughbred racing horse and the Duke is the raging bull
Haha yep, pretty spot on!
Try this on the speedy..find a nice twisty B road, stick it in rain mode and nail it..it’s another experience..
I wouldn’t trust myself on the warp speed KTM 😳 (or would I 🤔) but I could enjoy the Speed Triple.
Great, enjoyed that........thanks for posting 👍.
For me the Speed Triple because the Superduke is to powerful for any of us mere mortals and has no real place for anything other than a day bag and yes its not a tourer but most of all the vids I have seen of people not being able to do basic jobs easily for basic maintenance. I rode a KTM for two years motocrossing and its probably the best bike I used in competition but it was also a absolute bugger to maintain quickly and easily. Given the choice I would have the less brutal Triumph.
Well for the rest of that video i couldn't get the Van Damme dance out my head
😆😆😆😆 amazing haha. NOW I CANT!!!
The sound of that triumph 👌!
not a fair test ... should get another gen 3 to test against
Looks and sound of the speed triple, aggression of the super duke = perfect naked
Would love to see a vid from you comparing the two against the Yamaha mt10 another beast in the class.
My occasionally visiting friend from Illinois always gives me shit when she's here and wants me to buy or pay for something, and I'm like "Dude, money does not randomly fall off of me or appear when I hop up and down"... That being said Rich...I'm starting to feel that when YOU hop up and down long enough...random motorcycles just appear lol! :) Another great vid, cheers, as always, from sunny Phoenix! :)
Haha great comment, as always, Colby! 👍👍
I don't think my ticker would stand the KTM. Enjoyable video, Richy.
Peas and love, mate! 👍
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Your garage is like a magic hat never no what youl pull out rich.speed triple I could live with the super Duke I need my wits about me all the time great video
Triumph I want one if only for the sound.
Comparisons just like this has pushed Triumph to up the anti with the latest 1200 model. Let's hope it's doesn't become too much, for the road. Triple engine beats a twin in the real world riding all day. Good to see the flat cap has been dropped on the 1200 over the twin lights, too.
The difference to me is that you enjoyed the ride on the trumpet but on the KTM you appeared a bit nervous
When the 1200 speed rriple comes out, do a comparison with the newer super duke R.
Great video, is the 3.0 version even better though
the 2021 speedtriple will be the bike of the year but the 2020 ktm super Duke is supposed more refined tuning if I want to test ride the Triumph I've been told the dealer closest to me 8 have to order it don't know if I'm willing to sight unseen but I think it's going to be that good
Another great video. I think if any of us had the money, we'd have one of everything.
That’s a bloody good point. 👍
@@RichyVida Rule about how many bikes 1 should have # = # + 1
The older SD's are heavier that the Speed and have no Preload adjustment on the forks. The Speed is a better track weapon even with the 28 Bhp deficit (check Michael Rutter's lap times at Donington). Unless you go for the 2020 SD you'll always feel divided.
For me it would have to be the triumph, only because I think I’d be worm food if I had the ktm lol. Both sound fantastic 🏍💨💨
Judge it by the the biggest smile as you got home 😀
At the moment Richy I'd have Arnie in Predator over Van Damme in Time Cop all day long. But a new 1200 RS could be the Terminator and change everything.
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Then the 2020 KTM 1290 SDR would have to be Antonia Banderas from Desperado, El Mariachi with a guitar case of guns. 😆
There is something about the sound of triples.
Great video the triumph speed triple rs is a lovely bike as I own on but the KTM i can't comment on because I have never been on one but what I have heard about the bike it's a bit of a animal stay safe looking forward to more videos 🇬🇧👍
Both seem great bikes. But I think the Triumph sounds better. For me looks a bit better. The power of the KTM as you say is greater. Will be interesting to see the 1200 speed triple v the 1290 super duke
Good fair view 👏🏻👏🏻👍🇮🇲Manxman
as an RS owner i'm probably a little Biassed lol....but i can't wait for the new 1200 RS to come out ......Triumph all day long
The triumph sounds better. I'm partial to liter plus inline fours though.
I'm leaning towards the Speed Triple RS myself. I prefer the sound track and i have no need for a wheelie monster. But i 100% understand people who prefer the Super Duke R.💖 💖👏🏼👏🏼
The speedy of any year wheelies with ease.
@@SamslamminCars of course. But it's not all the speed triples do. The Duke is only "happy" on one wheel.
It’s like your floating lol I would like to see the bike on a bike review
1200 turned out to be a step too far with harsh suspension and valve clearance check every 10,000 miles! Expensive!
Superduke all day long..... and you need to ride it in sport mode 👍👍🤣
Which one for a daily/ occasional track day bike?
Honestly if you are hitting the track ... you probably want a Tuono (versus SDR, Speed, Streetfighter)
Speed triple more sporty and sounds better✊🔥
Start of the video
Me: pls tell me its the speed triple rs
Really! You lucky boy !
Just watched this again after 3 months. Which one? Buy BOTH!!
Nice video. Can't say that I'm not jealous, being able to ride both of these beauties at will. I do have one question though: if the speed triple is Van Damme and the KTM is Schwarzenegger, would that mean that Tuono is Stallone?
Haha yes! I guess so! 👏👏👏
Before watching the video, I said to the mrs that u'd prefer the Triumph, maybe take the superduke back out, but next time put it in sports mode (full fat mode) to get the full experience...I use to work for a Triumph dealership and the RS is the same bike as the R and there's not a lot of difference 4 hp more over the R, they are nice to ride, but it's not a superduke, I've got a 1290 GT and that's the same thing, bonkers....
Jasonsthruxton on youtube on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland Australia Sorry to say that the Triumph is my cup of char 😎😎😎
Might need to go speed triple next 🤔 😬
Need to try a Gen 3 SD R!
I’ve had it in already. Reviews on here somewhere
Sounds like the choice was between an "Axe murderer versus a kitchen knife stabber". Let's wait for the new 1200 to see what brand of delinquency Triumph has got for us.
Let’s be honest. They’re both stupid fast.
One is smooth and more refined while climbing the RPM’s while the other is a bit savage. As a daily I’d pick the Triumph but for the weekends I’d want the KTM in the garage.
As it stands now I’ll keep my KTM 1290 GT since I prefer a bit of wind protection to go along with my 173 horses.
Love the GT!
What a dilemma, now I’ve said elsewhere, KTM for me. Are you prewired for a type of bike? Could be... as I’ve not been a Triumph person with the exception of the Speed Twin.
Great comparison, of two quite different bikes in what the do and how they do it.
Take care.
Let's see what your views are on this. 👍
Great video, shame you peed on the seat 🤣🤣🤣
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Best comment so far, sum one is a bit of a Ham! As in the Soup 'Pea and Ham' 🤣
Mate if you really want to ride the real deal ...try the aprilia tuono best in its field..trust me it will blow your socks off lol 👍
I’d love to 👍
Have you not tried MT10 yet?
Unfortunately not had anything to do with Yamaha at all. :-/
One makes nice noise and the others more powerful and has a nice seat. The bottom line is get the cheaper one
That'd be the Speed Trip here in the land down under.