A unique perspective here maybe, but having bought one, 2 weeks and 1000 miles later, I'm in awe of its performance and quality. Yes, the suspension is Sportsbike hard but I've changed the suspension to "comfort" settings and it makes a difference. Compared to the 2013 Speed I traded in, the 1200 is super light and handles like it's on rails. It accelerates in 6th gear so fast, I keep looking for another gear. Comparing this to previous speed triples is understandable but they are like chalk and cheese.
I so wanted to love the bike, tested twice over the weekend and 150 miles on a brand new bike and the engine and gearbox was quite agricultural, vibey quite bad around 2500/3000rpm, through bars and mirror vibrate, and a quick shifter that was with a clunk. after my ride I was looking around the bike and noticed the chain looked loose, seems this week-old bike that just went through PDI and on the road test by the dealer and they missed the chain tensioning, was a good 55/65mm of travel if not more. I'm presuming this had a detrimental effect and might explain the feel i had from the engine of power delivery. defo had to ride the gears more on this compared to the 1050, was not happy rolling on in top gear when being lazy on a 35mph bend, it hated that! maybe the chain again?
Also available in black , should at least have a red and blue as standard , the original bikes were available in mad colours years ago which was a bit of a signature ,they should bring that back as an option at least , moneys in the tech and not the paint I suppose , it's the trend . Track tool for the road , watched a launch video on this bike, the bike testers were impressed with it on track , which would be it's natural home . It's euro 5ed up to the headlamps , who's going to be first to put a loud can on ? can't wait to hear that !
I remember Roulette Green and Atomic Red colours for the Speed Triple. Even if we leave out those more polarizing colours they still have some amazing ones from their past that they could`ve used: Fireball Orange, Racing Yellow, Imperial Purple, Caribbean Blue
When triumph was asked about the color's they said the color's people love and the color's they actually put down money on at the dealership are 2 different things.
Thanks for the another great review. I’m so glad I didn’t wait for the 21’. The 2020 is just as you said. It just feels special every time I ride it, and no regrets I chose the previous version speed triple.
This problem with bike colors is really becoming ridiculous, it's hard to find a bike with a decent color nowadays. Everyone's been reading 50 Shades of Grey, but actually only read the title of the book.
Possibly the best looking bike released in the past 10 years imo. Really loved it when it first came out, but then saw it in Baja Orange at the NEC last year and I was absolutely sold 😍🧡🖤 Pity I couldn’t even hope to afford one 😅😭
Very tempted to get rid of my MT10SP for this bike , decent fuel consumption more power and does not sound like a diesel tractor unlike my Yam.Far superior in so many ways good job Triumph.
Had a test run for about 2 hrs and its a great machine from Triumph but the wind hitting you high speed is bad .Even a small screen would have been better the nothing .The suspension is rock hard from standard and would need setting up for the road .Anyhow sold the mt and bought a gsxr thou well pleased .
Your Speed Twin long term review was a defining reason I purchased one. I've done the throttle spacers, some crash protection and akra exhaust system. What a machine!
i'm 6ft 1 and the sitting position for me wasn't great on my test ride, my upper back was aching and my left hip was hurting, I was glad to get it back to the dealer. I got on my Multistrada Enduro and it was like putting a comfy old pair slippers back on!
Ive just had a good ride on the new version and have had the previous RS version for 3 years, believe me the new one is set up for the track use being very firm for my favourite bumpy B roads. If you want a full on sports bike then the new one is miles better. If like me you have had your fill of sports bikes that become fun beyond my idea of sanity then thats the reason i purchased a naked 2018 RS to be fun yet more road biased. For my light weight the i'm sure the springs would have to be replaced with reduced spring rate versions as no amount of adjustment would make any difference. In addition the throttle was surprisingly snatchy particularly noticeable after bumps when no amount of smooth throttle control will help. This bike will be heaven for those that genuinely want to ride hard / enjoy track days.
Glad you mentioned the paint schemes such a fantastic bike and they make it look as dull as our miserable weather. I want to open my garage and see something that inspires me not something that puts a radiohead tune in my head. Grey and black come on Triumph sort it out and i might buy one.
I put a deposit on the Baja Orange version. A little opposite of underwhelming, I think. Love the color and can’t wait to ride it. It’s a fantastic handling machine with an impeccable motor.
@@theolneyrider I'll check it out. Best of luck with it! I'm 49 and my Missus and I only decided to learn to ride last year. Naturally, immediately after passing I went and bought something completely unsuitable. I got an Indian FTR 1200S. Well, I haven't dropped it yet and I've clocked up a few thousand miles but it's probably more by luck than judgement. I wish I'd done it years ago.
@@marwood1969 a very nice bike. I do think learning a little later in life is good especially when buying a ‘bigger’ bike. Usually the rider is a little more sensible, not always the case though. 😂
@@theolneyrider I think that's spot on. I've had all sorted of mad cars over my life and having a bike in my 20s or 30s would have been a recipe for disaster. I'm very aware of my fragility these days!
Casualty of redesigning the gears for better mesh efficiency. Same story for the undertail exhaust, brawny bruiser looks, and plush suspension. Will be interesting to see how well this bike sells now that its personality was lobotomized, and it's just another competitor in a sea of dying track weapons.
Nice review again. I just decided on getting one of the last 1050RS' - better lower-down pull, and those exhausts...! The 1200 feels /looks like is a result of Euro5, and the extra power only usable on track.
I bought a 1050 RS two weeks ago and wondered if I'd done the right thing or if I should have waited for this new version. After watching a ruck of reviews on the new one I think I made the right choice. I think the 1050 looks better and I agree with TMF about the exhausts. I love the black and yellow of my 1050. Again I agree with TMF 148 BHP is plenty and I agree with moto.warwick that the extra power is only really useable on the track. On top of that Triumph did a pretty good deal on the 1050, free quick shifter, £1,000 off price and £500 worth of accessories. If you factor all that in it works out about £4,000 less than the 1200 but I don't think it's £4,000 less of a bike. I doubt I will ever get anywhere near the limits of the 1050 so I sure as heck wouldn't on the 1200 so for me yes I made the right choice.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think I found the last one in the country (Switzerland) in black. Apparently only 1 km, and a good price. Cannot wait to pick it up 😉
Wanted a Triumph when I passed my test a few years ago, but out of my budget, bought an MT09 1st Gen. Now the new Triple is out, it might put the older model in my bracket 😎
You definitely shouldn’t be buying a bike with that criteria in mind. I’ll go a long way to say that probably wasn’t at the top of agenda when they were designing the thing.
Such a nice looking bike, love the exhaust how it is, rather than under the seat, thanks for the review, always enjoy the opinion of someone who just likes to go for a ride and give real world feedback. Thanks again from Australia.🤗
You should do a "throwback review" video of your street triple! Like review it again and see how it stacks up against 2021 bikes; essentially a super long term review
looks amazing. finally got a few hours test and it was good and bad, after 150 miles turns out the PDI and road test out of the crate at the dealer, they forgot to check the chain tension and it was at least 65mm travel, engine felt rough as a box of spanners at certain revs, was vibey and rough at low revs, failed to roll on for such a big torquey engine on lazy bends 35mph ish roll on in top, unlike the older 1050 i had or my ninja 1000sx. handled amazing, brakes amazing but gearbox and engine was pants, they have offered another test when it goes back through workshop... I'm on the fence with this one but i will go back to re-test, surely the chain tension cant make this many issues?
Had a chuckle at your garage. Looks like a small bike dealership. Never seen so many bikes, helmets, jackets etc etc. Without teaching you to suck eggs - might be worth letting the Arai Rebel go. Bit passed its recommended shelf life. You never told us about the tyres you liked. I was trying to look on the walk around. Think they might be Metzler Racetec RRs?
As a very happy owner of the 2019 Speed Triple RS, this review I was looking forward to very much. I love the new bike from everything I have seen, but I have yet to ride one (the one dealer here in Michigan is very stingy about offering demo rides). The bike's looks are a bit 'plain' compared to the musclebound version like mine; I love the most everything I see but there'd be a lot to do on that one (exhaust, front cowling/bug screen, etc) and here that bike is $18,300... which is pricey. I LOVE that new TFT display, really attractive looking from everything I've seen so far. it's a shame you didn't get to open it up and let her rip, which is probably the biggest change - +30hp is no joke. I love the headlights and taillights so that's no issue (I love the headlights and my after-market taillights on my '19 too). I am hoping to see you do a more in-depth review and hope that you were able to get into it more. As always, thank you for keeping your reviews real and honest.
Sadly Scott the bike went back today and because I've been away riding my GS in Wales I never got to ride it again - if I'm honest I think you have the best version of the bike, bruising looks and ample performance....you're not missing anything with the new bike IMO.....
Thought it looked great, best Speed Triple by far. I liked the colour and prefer the low exhaust. Didn't catch the price but will be more than I would spend on a bike.
Brilliant video on this bike. They’re rare where I live. So it’s great to see one being ridden with energy and gusto. The usual detail was as usual really interesting. Very enjoyable. Thanks Mr. Fly!
Lately you don't do a segment on highway performance. You don't need a 175ph bike to do 40kph. I want to know at 130-140kph how many RPM the engine is spinning at and if there are any spots in the REV range where the engine vibrations is noticed. Also, I like to know what the torque curve looks like. You didn't even mention the torque spec. These things are more important than available colors as you mentioned twice.
lookin good, one thing I don't like is the head light style on most of these modern bikes, I just like one round types. at 67yrs, I got the street cup, my type of style.
Yeah it's amazing how things like lights can really change the whole vibe of a bike isn't it - I personally love these but get they aren't to everyone's taste...
Funnily enough, that’s one of the reasons I’ve never been too excited by the GS. I know it’s daft because they are astounding bikes and I’m obviously in the minority, but - I kinda know what you mean!
What is that compound/estate that you ride by sometimes (4:41)? You used to do walk-arounds, probably a couple of years ago, until you were asked/told not to. I seem to remember you calling it "checkers," but I don't think that's right. Please forgive my American ignorance. Anywho, I've been meaning to ask for some time, but just seeing it in this video brought it to mind. I f'n love that new Speed Triple, by the way, and this was another awesome video. 🤙
Like it, but beyond my pay grade. 15k and still no centre stand. I am sure someone will say it is okay for this type of bike, but it does not come with any way to raise the wheels for maintenance either.
It would be a British bike if it was actually made in the UK. As it is, it's a British design made elsewhere and imported back into the UK. Yes I know they do it to save costs but harping on about it sticking union flags all over Triumphs is wearing a little thin these days.
According to Bike magazine it is to track focused, they don't seem to rate it over the previous model rs for road use. They say it's not as planted on the road? Personally I prefer the looks of the 2018 rs in white.
Really nice bike! Being an old Army guy, I kinda like the matte paint job. But that’s coming from a guy who loves his Tiger 1200 Desert so I’m obviously biased. I’m gonna have to go ride one. Looks like a lot of fun! Great review Andy!
Gosh... We started today with a High Definition review of a 220 HP 🤪 RE Meteor that disappeared (finger trouble?) and ended up with a low res Rooty-Tooty Speed Triple. I love the Triumph. EDIT: The HD version has just arrived.
No, Royal Enfield asked me to take the video down as they changed their launch date (but didn't tell me) - so I uploaded this one to replace it and the HD processing hasn't completed yet - if you watch it later it'll be clearer.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oooops! I bet their media crew are glad they have your number. This might give RE enough time to pretty up Quasimodo’s seat and the back end (although the rear light was rather pretty). But somehow I think that is wishful thinking. Anyway, us early birds got two worms this morning. 🪱 🪱
Nice vid Andy. I think I prefer the looks of the previous model to be honest. Curiously all the 2021 Speed Triples tested have all been the boring grey option with not one in the nicer gloss black finish which I find a bit odd.Triumph have come under a lot of criticism for their poor colours lately so maybe they will take note and produce some more colourful options next year.By the way the old red and red and white colours on the older models sold really well so don't be fooled by the marketing boys trying to convince you that grey is a top colour option [black has always sold well].Take care mate and ride safe.
Just bought one, thanks for helping in my purchase decision! The suspension frequently mentioned is fine for normal or heavier riders, needs adjusted to comfort settings for light riders. One of the best bikes, if not the best bike I've ever ridden, from my old 1937 OK Supreme to my blades and modern 1250 GS adventure.... Well done MF for a great review as ever.
If this bike had a good old fashioned round headlight at the front it would look amazing. The bug eye KTM esque light would be a deal breaker for me. Shame because I like the bike.
Yeah it's amazing how things like lights can really change the whole vibe of a bike isn't it - I personally love these but get they aren't to everyone's taste...
Agree, would love Triumph to do a proper retro speed triple and combine the classic Triumph details with that killer motor. I ride the Rocket which does that albeit in a ridiculous scale. Much like the old big Guzzis like the Griso, feels like we are missing performance and character across most of the market.
I believe it was meant to be a Streetfighter version of the Daytona…. At least historically. Crash a Daytona, remove the fairing bits, but keep the lights and you are left with the lights looking a little odd without the fairing. Ducati went in a different direction with the Monster and put a round headlight…. In the early days, but that has also gone more stylized. For Triumph, they have several bikes with the round headlights, so in some ways this bike offers something with a different look.
@@nielsmeer but didn’t first year SpeedT not have a single round then they went to a twin round, at same time they offered the classic Thunderbird and Trident 🔱 with a triple, the first gen are getting better looking with age albeit in a day glo nuts way 😎 personally I’d put the big triple in the Thruxton RS and detune slightly back to say 145hp,
@@78Outlaw yes, very early speed triples were like monsters with a single round headlight followed quickly with twins. Ironically when the Daytona was discontinued was when they switched to the style of the fairing style headlights without a fairing in the speed triple back in 2005. I like both aesthetics, but to me the twin round feels iconic.
Hi Mr Flyer , I’m tempted to get the 2020 rs - I Save 5k and I never go on the track ….since you have ridden both …. Should I go all out for the new - even if I’m not a track racer
That happened to me , tried to comment but TMF must have uploaded it unintentionally to YT instead of this one then taken it down again whilst I was commenting, YT wouldn't let me comment , confused me , thought I'd offended someone lol .
Good morning.. great content as always Im looking to purchase either a 2019 speed triple or a Yamaha mt10 sp 2019 I know it's personal preference but what one would you recommend? And are bikes with 10,000 miles on them ok to purchase? Many thanks🙏
I’ve missed the triple noise since I sold my 2013 street triple. Have you got a ride on the new BMW s1000r lined up? I’d be interested to see how you think it compares to the previous model.
Mr Flier, I recall having read somewhere that lithium ion batteries aren't a good idea for use with heated grips. Do you know if this is still the case, or if battery tech has improved to the point where this is no longer so ?
@@TheMissendenFlyer My own battery's an AGM one but I'll certainly try to ascertain if Lithium ones are now ok with the heated grips. I think the previous issue was due to insufficient voltage at tickover when at traffic lights, town speeds etc, when the alternator rotor isn't spinning fast enough.
I am the fortunate owner of "19 ST and I'm pleased as punch. I had a '19 Yam MT09 before & I think if I had had the SP version I would never have given up that bike. As it was it had an incredible engine but less than ideal suspension & was a bit nervous on the open road. My Speedy has eliminated that shortcoming and is just the S model. The added torque is also nice as well as the finish in white with the warm pewter frame and black engine / wheels... I get a hardon just looking at it.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, yes I am! I owned a lot of bikes over the years but, frankly, this Triumph tops them all handily, even an '05 ZX10 (my former favorite)! It feels as though it were carved from solid billet and handles like a dream! An excellent aphrodisiac!😛 Please, keep up the great reviews! You're one of my "real world" favorite reviewers!!
Great review got to admit Im not a fan of recent Triumphs I think you could be correct the colours available are a tad boring. Are you going to up date us on the progress with the Royal Enfield project?
I wish I had something to update you with! Still being done, the estimate was "about 2 weeks" - that was 5 months ago!!! ...and this is the second try I've had as the first custom house let me down, one well known custom house just flatly refused to do it (and it's not like I'm not paying full price!!) - proving very hard to get a bike customised!!
Hi TMF, I noticed you pulled the RE 350 meteor video. I had looked forward to seeing that one as I've discovered the fun of riding smaller bikes over heavy and expensive big bikes. Hope you are still going to feature it. Cheers
Very odd?? Watched the Meteor video earlier but now it has been taken down. However I thought that again I would remark on the seemingly poorer quality of the video definition, particularly in full screen on my 22" monitor, of this video and was going back to compare with the RE Meteor to compare when I found it was missing. The RE Meteor was perfect in every way. It just interests me why the quality of the videos vary, this one looking like a poor computer game lacking definition and clarity. Are you using different cameras, different processing software or is it simply the weather conditions? Well as always the review is no the less informative, at times comical and always interesting. Sorry to put in that whinge but hope you understand, like your bike reviews I have to mention the bad with the good.
No problem Ray - Royal Enfield asked me to remove the Meteor video so I had to hastily replace it with this one - it takes a while for TH-cam to process the HD version, if you watch it again it may well be sharper....(plus it was a dull day and lighting makes a world of difference with GoPros)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perhaps Royal Enfield can't deal with the sudden sales increase of the Meteor your video might generate ! Perhaps see more in the future, thanks for the reply.
Test riding the RS in a few days Mr Flyer. Was preparing myself for a bumpy ride as I've read a few reports of very hard suspension. You made brief reference to it but also said a plush ride. Are these other reports overplaying this issue and its actually a good set up for the road? Be very interested to know you views. Thanks.
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah i've seen your review. i did ride the prev gen it was so exciting. i'm referring to the new cyclops 2021 model. triple love! anyhow have a good day TMF.
Good review. The obvious question is the suspension too hard for the road ? (I've read the MCN review !) The other question , what's the best road bike a 2020 Speed Triple 1050 RS, or a 2021 Speed Triple 1200 RS ?
@@landedzentry well exactly and how much power is really needed on the road ? I'm sure on track the new Speed Triple 1200 RS is a significant upgrade, the big question for road riders is "Do I really need it ?"
@@karlosh9286 Jaguar were doing this a few years ago: Setting up their cars for Norscheifer Ring fastest lap, the result was a otherwise great car with teeth rattling suspension thus ruining a fabulous "Gentleman's Express". *The Speed Triple is not a track bike, its a road bike* !!! I would buy one only if Triumph could show me a demo bike with softer suspension - if not Triumph have ruined the 2021 Speed Triple with inappropriate bonkers rock hard ride. IMHO.3
Its funny how all reviews say its smooth and powerful and all but no emphasises if feels torquey. Something i feel this bike doesnt feel like. Where as everyone keeps gushing about the torque on the yamaha mt 09. Is it the case?
I love seeing the English villages and country roads you ride, fond memories.....just wouldn’t be able to hack the weather any longer..great review as usual... greetings from España
@@TheMissendenFlyer España has problems, However it's still a lovely country to retire to...forget all the rubbish about the ''expat'' society. Most of us pensioners want to live our lives out in a kinder warmer climate...we ain't all 'hanging about in bars'. España is a wonderful country to be a 'Biker'... no wet weather gear, no heated suits...its 23/4c and sunny at the moment.!!
Terrific review as usual Andy. Will have to give it a go whenever we get it in to our dealer here in Nth Queensland, Australia. Reckon she would go like a cut snake!! With you 100% on changing out the can. Stay safe brother.
Hmm, still like (prefer) the heavy set look and beefy sound of the previous 1050 model. However, yet to see this new model in the flesh but I do prefer some shiny paint. Many thanks for the video.
Great TMF review as always. TMF have you tried the Beeline Moto navagation module? Its a Uk based company that was featured on Dragons Den and Triumph just launched a special edition version.
I don't mind the matte gray color. On the other hand, that headlight housing could not be uglier. Reminds me of a praying mantis head! And a tail tidy would be nice!
A unique perspective here maybe, but having bought one, 2 weeks and 1000 miles later, I'm in awe of its performance and quality. Yes, the suspension is Sportsbike hard but I've changed the suspension to "comfort" settings and it makes a difference. Compared to the 2013 Speed I traded in, the 1200 is super light and handles like it's on rails. It accelerates in 6th gear so fast, I keep looking for another gear. Comparing this to previous speed triples is understandable but they are like chalk and cheese.
I so wanted to love the bike, tested twice over the weekend and 150 miles on a brand new bike and the engine and gearbox was quite agricultural, vibey quite bad around 2500/3000rpm, through bars and mirror vibrate, and a quick shifter that was with a clunk. after my ride I was looking around the bike and noticed the chain looked loose, seems this week-old bike that just went through PDI and on the road test by the dealer and they missed the chain tensioning, was a good 55/65mm of travel if not more. I'm presuming this had a detrimental effect and might explain the feel i had from the engine of power delivery. defo had to ride the gears more on this compared to the 1050, was not happy rolling on in top gear when being lazy on a 35mph bend, it hated that! maybe the chain again?
Also available in black , should at least have a red and blue as standard , the original bikes were available in mad colours years ago which was a bit of a signature ,they should bring that back as an option at least , moneys in the tech and not the paint I suppose , it's the trend . Track tool for the road , watched a launch video on this bike, the bike testers were impressed with it on track , which would be it's natural home . It's euro 5ed up to the headlamps , who's going to be first to put a loud can on ? can't wait to hear that !
So true, I'm not a big fan of the flat paints. Bring back the loud glossy paints please!
Your so right. It totally needs a red, like the last SPEED S. just a clean red. Bike would look so much better.
I remember Roulette Green and Atomic Red colours for the Speed Triple.
Even if we leave out those more polarizing colours they still have some amazing ones from their past that they could`ve used: Fireball Orange, Racing Yellow, Imperial Purple, Caribbean Blue
When triumph was asked about the color's they said the color's people love and the color's they actually put down money on at the dealership are 2 different things.
Thanks for the another great review. I’m so glad I didn’t wait for the 21’. The 2020 is just as you said. It just feels special every time I ride it, and no regrets I chose the previous version speed triple.
This problem with bike colors is really becoming ridiculous, it's hard to find a bike with a decent color nowadays. Everyone's been reading 50 Shades of Grey, but actually only read the title of the book.
Agreed, who on earth wants a ride that blends in with the color of the asphalt...
Absolutely agree. The roads are monochrome enough with all the grey/black/silver German cars. Poor show.
Totally agree!!!
Yup it's why I picked a green triumph scrambler.
Agree went for a Ktm as it was only garish colour i could find.
I really like Street and speed triple but the boring colours put me off.
Possibly the best looking bike released in the past 10 years imo.
Really loved it when it first came out, but then saw it in Baja Orange at the NEC last year and I was absolutely sold 😍🧡🖤
Pity I couldn’t even hope to afford one 😅😭
Very tempted to get rid of my MT10SP for this bike , decent fuel consumption more power and does not sound like a diesel tractor unlike my Yam.Far superior in so many ways good job Triumph.
Had a test run for about 2 hrs and its a great machine from Triumph but the wind hitting you high speed is bad .Even a small screen would have been better the nothing .The suspension is rock hard from standard and would need setting up for the road .Anyhow sold the mt and bought a gsxr thou well pleased .
Thank you.Still can't get my head around the headlight design of these naked bikes.They always look like an after thought.cheers.
Your Speed Twin long term review was a defining reason I purchased one. I've done the throttle spacers, some crash protection and akra exhaust system. What a machine!
i'm 6ft 1 and the sitting position for me wasn't great on my test ride, my upper back was aching and my left hip was hurting, I was glad to get it back to the dealer. I got on my Multistrada Enduro and it was like putting a comfy old pair slippers back on!
If i ever want to watch a review on a certain bike, i always know where to come! Top reviews from a Top Man! 👍🏻✌🏻
Thanks! 👍
Really excited about this one, I have one coming next week! Great review 👏
Will be interested to hear your assessment John - nowt wrong with the bike, just think I preferred the previous one!
Ive just had a good ride on the new version and have had the previous RS version for 3 years, believe me the new one is set up for the track use being very firm for my favourite bumpy B roads. If you want a full on sports bike then the new one is miles better. If like me you have had your fill of sports bikes that become fun beyond my idea of sanity then thats the reason i purchased a naked 2018 RS to be fun yet more road biased. For my light weight the i'm sure the springs would have to be replaced with reduced spring rate versions as no amount of adjustment would make any difference. In addition the throttle was surprisingly snatchy particularly noticeable after bumps when no amount of smooth throttle control will help. This bike will be heaven for those that genuinely want to ride hard / enjoy track days.
Yes, that is consistent with what most reviews are saying. I am very disappointed Triumph have got the suspension so wrong
Whatever colour they paint them, you will still have the best TH-cam bikers channel.
Thank you Frank!
1999 Speed Trip from new here. It's still a clenched fist of a bike--compact, raw, punchy and fast as lightning. Still love it.
Glad you mentioned the paint schemes such a fantastic bike and they make it look as dull as our miserable weather.
I want to open my garage and see something that inspires me not something that puts a radiohead tune in my head.
Grey and black come on Triumph sort it out and i might buy one.
I agree with the underwhelming paint scheme. But the overall bike does look quite premium. It’s finally in fighting shape. Good job Triumph.
I put a deposit on the Baja Orange version. A little opposite of underwhelming, I think. Love the color and can’t wait to ride it. It’s a fantastic handling machine with an impeccable motor.
@@kellytorres51 ok. I might be a bit jealous now. Enjoy.
I know other channels have done a review on this bike. But I still watch TMF's review first.
How very kind of you!
12:10 It should come with a tail tidy & swing arm mounted mudguard as standard, they aren’t pushing the boundaries enough with design & performance.
They can’t come with a tail tidy as standard, it’s down to homologation and euro rules
It’s done nothing but rain since I completed my CBT (2 weeks ago). Starting my riding journey off with a splash! 👍🏻👍🏻
I did my mod 2 last October in torrential rain. Quite an experience riding across a flooded road!
@@marwood1969 I’ve yet to book my mod 1 and 2 but I’m documenting my journey on my TH-cam channel. The CBT was very wet. 😂
@@theolneyrider I'll check it out. Best of luck with it!
I'm 49 and my Missus and I only decided to learn to ride last year. Naturally, immediately after passing I went and bought something completely unsuitable. I got an Indian FTR 1200S. Well, I haven't dropped it yet and I've clocked up a few thousand miles but it's probably more by luck than judgement. I wish I'd done it years ago.
@@marwood1969 a very nice bike. I do think learning a little later in life is good especially when buying a ‘bigger’ bike. Usually the rider is a little more sensible, not always the case though. 😂
@@theolneyrider I think that's spot on. I've had all sorted of mad cars over my life and having a bike in my 20s or 30s would have been a recipe for disaster. I'm very aware of my fragility these days!
It doesn't seem to have the triple "whistle". I actually like the color scheme on it.
Casualty of redesigning the gears for better mesh efficiency. Same story for the undertail exhaust, brawny bruiser looks, and plush suspension. Will be interesting to see how well this bike sells now that its personality was lobotomized, and it's just another competitor in a sea of dying track weapons.
...well it was pretty good to be fair, light and agile compared to the previous bike....that said I think I prefer the 2018 1050 machine....
I hear the whistle...
Nice review again. I just decided on getting one of the last 1050RS' - better lower-down pull, and those exhausts...! The 1200 feels /looks like is a result of Euro5, and the extra power only usable on track.
Me too iv been waiting for this but definitely going for the old one
Great bike the previous Gen if you can find one....
I bought a 1050 RS two weeks ago and wondered if I'd done the right thing or if I should have waited for this new version. After watching a ruck of reviews on the new one I think I made the right choice. I think the 1050 looks better and I agree with TMF about the exhausts. I love the black and yellow of my 1050. Again I agree with TMF 148 BHP is plenty and I agree with moto.warwick that the extra power is only really useable on the track. On top of that Triumph did a pretty good deal on the 1050, free quick shifter, £1,000 off price and £500 worth of accessories. If you factor all that in it works out about £4,000 less than the 1200 but I don't think it's £4,000 less of a bike. I doubt I will ever get anywhere near the limits of the 1050 so I sure as heck wouldn't on the 1200 so for me yes I made the right choice.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think I found the last one in the country (Switzerland) in black. Apparently only 1 km, and a good price. Cannot wait to pick it up 😉
@@John-im6mm Agreed. If I ever get a bike more focused on track use, it will have fairings...
Wanted a Triumph when I passed my test a few years ago, but out of my budget, bought an MT09 1st Gen. Now the new Triple is out, it might put the older model in my bracket 😎
A “wheels up” U turn in the car park? That would’ve been spectacular!! 😉😂🤣
On a Star Wars Land Speeder maybe ?
The front indicators look in an odd place? They are going to break straight away if you drop it.
You definitely shouldn’t be buying a bike with that criteria in mind. I’ll go a long way to say that probably wasn’t at the top of agenda when they were designing the thing.
The front is odd. Its all too marmite.
Don't make a habit of dropping it then.
Such a nice looking bike, love the exhaust how it is, rather than under the seat, thanks for the review, always enjoy the opinion of someone who just likes to go for a ride and give real world feedback. Thanks again from Australia.🤗
You should do a "throwback review" video of your street triple! Like review it again and see how it stacks up against 2021 bikes; essentially a super long term review
Mine is a Street Triple
@@TheMissendenFlyer edited my comment lol
looks amazing. finally got a few hours test and it was good and bad, after 150 miles turns out the PDI and road test out of the crate at the dealer, they forgot to check the chain tension and it was at least 65mm travel, engine felt rough as a box of spanners at certain revs, was vibey and rough at low revs, failed to roll on for such a big torquey engine on lazy bends 35mph ish roll on in top, unlike the older 1050 i had or my ninja 1000sx. handled amazing, brakes amazing but gearbox and engine was pants, they have offered another test when it goes back through workshop... I'm on the fence with this one but i will go back to re-test, surely the chain tension cant make this many issues?
Well I guess it's possible if it was that loose.....
Had a chuckle at your garage. Looks like a small bike dealership. Never seen so many bikes, helmets, jackets etc etc. Without teaching you to suck eggs - might be worth letting the Arai Rebel go. Bit passed its recommended shelf life. You never told us about the tyres you liked. I was trying to look on the walk around. Think they might be Metzler Racetec RRs?
Yes the bike has gone back now but I think you're right....
As a very happy owner of the 2019 Speed Triple RS, this review I was looking forward to very much. I love the new bike from everything I have seen, but I have yet to ride one (the one dealer here in Michigan is very stingy about offering demo rides). The bike's looks are a bit 'plain' compared to the musclebound version like mine; I love the most everything I see but there'd be a lot to do on that one (exhaust, front cowling/bug screen, etc) and here that bike is $18,300... which is pricey. I LOVE that new TFT display, really attractive looking from everything I've seen so far. it's a shame you didn't get to open it up and let her rip, which is probably the biggest change - +30hp is no joke. I love the headlights and taillights so that's no issue (I love the headlights and my after-market taillights on my '19 too). I am hoping to see you do a more in-depth review and hope that you were able to get into it more. As always, thank you for keeping your reviews real and honest.
Sadly Scott the bike went back today and because I've been away riding my GS in Wales I never got to ride it again - if I'm honest I think you have the best version of the bike, bruising looks and ample performance....you're not missing anything with the new bike IMO.....
Have you visited Fox Motorsports in Wyoming MI? They let me demo a new Tiger 900 off the floor last fall.
@@kensnodgrass1755 No, but I may. Thanks for the tip.
Thought it looked great, best Speed Triple by far. I liked the colour and prefer the low exhaust. Didn't catch the price but will be more than I would spend on a bike.
Brilliant video on this bike. They’re rare where I live. So it’s great to see one being ridden with energy and gusto. The usual detail was as usual really interesting. Very enjoyable. Thanks Mr. Fly!
Lately you don't do a segment on highway performance. You don't need a 175ph bike to do 40kph. I want to know at 130-140kph
how many RPM the engine is spinning at and if there are any spots in the REV range where the engine vibrations is noticed.
Also, I like to know what the torque curve looks like. You didn't even mention the torque spec. These things are more important
than available colors as you mentioned twice.
lookin good, one thing I don't like is the head light style on most of these modern bikes, I just like one round types. at 67yrs, I got the street cup, my type of style.
Yeah it's amazing how things like lights can really change the whole vibe of a bike isn't it - I personally love these but get they aren't to everyone's taste...
Funnily enough, that’s one of the reasons I’ve never been too excited by the GS. I know it’s daft because they are astounding bikes and I’m obviously in the minority, but - I kinda know what you mean!
It is a good morning to be a fan of TheMissendenFlyer, he is lighting us up with these uploads. Thank you, I appreciate another well made video.
Thank you! Appreciate the kind words!
Just can’t warm to the ‘Insect like’ headlight, all the rage these days.
100% agree. I love the bike, if they could just put a round LED headlight it could be one of the best looking on the road.
@@jasonmullin4310 they've been doing the twin headlights for so long it's become a signature, they aren't about to change it.
Totally agree, it’s teenage design for me, but people that can afford to buy one of these are in their forties 😆😆😆😆
Yep it’s like, damn we forgot the headlight quick shove summat on ...
can't agree more, dealbreaker for me
Btw, best part of your reviews is the walk around. We get a really good look at the bike, nice
What is that compound/estate that you ride by sometimes (4:41)? You used to do walk-arounds, probably a couple of years ago, until you were asked/told not to. I seem to remember you calling it "checkers," but I don't think that's right. Please forgive my American ignorance. Anywho, I've been meaning to ask for some time, but just seeing it in this video brought it to mind. I f'n love that new Speed Triple, by the way, and this was another awesome video. 🤙
It’s Chequers - the Prime Ministers country house - our Camp David if you like....
@@TheMissendenFlyer See, I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos! Thanks for the reply, and take care.
Like it, but beyond my pay grade. 15k and still no centre stand. I am sure someone will say it is okay for this type of bike, but it does not come with any way to raise the wheels for maintenance either.
I own a black 17 1050 S
Imagine if they came in British racing green with a gold frame? Gold wheels?
Or a nice bright red and white with gold bits??
Yes that would be amazing wouldn't it....
British roads British bike
Thank God for Triumph: what progress for the past 10-15 years!
More like, British roads, better bring an adventure bike...
Where is it made
It would be a British bike if it was actually made in the UK. As it is, it's a British design made elsewhere and imported back into the UK. Yes I know they do it to save costs but harping on about it sticking union flags all over Triumphs is wearing a little thin these days.
@@alanwright9112 Speed Triple is made in UK as far as I know, been to the factory myself, nice tour, recommended!
@@RichardsModellingAdventures Some Triumphs made in Thailand these days.
Love to compare this to the BMW S1000R... I just worry if this is to track focused for someone who won't ever take it on track.
No, it's road focused.
Nah - it's a road bike first and foremost
According to Bike magazine it is to track focused, they don't seem to rate it over the previous model rs for road use. They say it's not as planted on the road? Personally I prefer the looks of the 2018 rs in white.
Whereabouts in Wales are you going mucker? We've got some blinding roads here, jus purfick for bikes!!
Really nice bike! Being an old Army guy, I kinda like the matte paint job. But that’s coming from a guy who loves his Tiger 1200 Desert so I’m obviously biased. I’m gonna have to go ride one. Looks like a lot of fun! Great review Andy!
Gosh... We started today with a High Definition review of a 220 HP 🤪 RE Meteor that disappeared (finger trouble?) and ended up with a low res Rooty-Tooty Speed Triple. I love the Triumph. EDIT: The HD version has just arrived.
No, Royal Enfield asked me to take the video down as they changed their launch date (but didn't tell me) - so I uploaded this one to replace it and the HD processing hasn't completed yet - if you watch it later it'll be clearer.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oooops! I bet their media crew are glad they have your number. This might give RE enough time to pretty up Quasimodo’s seat and the back end (although the rear light was rather pretty). But somehow I think that is wishful thinking. Anyway, us early birds got two worms this morning. 🪱 🪱
Funny you mentioned about foot controls... I found both the gear and brake levers set too far inwards too.
Nice vid Andy. I think I prefer the looks of the previous model to be honest. Curiously all the 2021 Speed Triples tested have all been the boring grey option with not one in the nicer gloss black finish which I find a bit odd.Triumph have come under a lot of criticism for their poor colours lately so maybe they will take note and produce some more colourful options next year.By the way the old red and red and white colours on the older models sold really well so don't be fooled by the marketing boys trying to convince you that grey is a top colour option [black has always sold well].Take care mate and ride safe.
Where does a passenger sit, since this is a powerful bike what are the luggage options that would use all that power to carry
loads for touring?
It's a streetfighter not a tourer.
Not sure about after market options with Euro 5 regs, I have heard the ECUs cannot be tampered with to accept modifications? Any info gladly accepted
I thought 6° riding to work this morning was cold, but that's a summer day in your neck of the woods
‘Fraid so!
Just bought one, thanks for helping in my purchase decision! The suspension frequently mentioned is fine for normal or heavier riders, needs adjusted to comfort settings for light riders. One of the best bikes, if not the best bike I've ever ridden, from my old 1937 OK Supreme to my blades and modern 1250 GS adventure.... Well done MF for a great review as ever.
Thank you very much and congratulations on the new bike Steve!
Which 125 was Mrs Flyer learning on?
If this bike had a good old fashioned round headlight at the front it would look amazing. The bug eye KTM esque light would be a deal breaker for me. Shame because I like the bike.
Yeah it's amazing how things like lights can really change the whole vibe of a bike isn't it - I personally love these but get they aren't to everyone's taste...
Agree, would love Triumph to do a proper retro speed triple and combine the classic Triumph details with that killer motor. I ride the Rocket which does that albeit in a ridiculous scale. Much like the old big Guzzis like the Griso, feels like we are missing performance and character across most of the market.
I believe it was meant to be a Streetfighter version of the Daytona…. At least historically. Crash a Daytona, remove the fairing bits, but keep the lights and you are left with the lights looking a little odd without the fairing. Ducati went in a different direction with the Monster and put a round headlight…. In the early days, but that has also gone more stylized. For Triumph, they have several bikes with the round headlights, so in some ways this bike offers something with a different look.
@@nielsmeer but didn’t first year SpeedT not have a single round then they went to a twin round, at same time they offered the classic Thunderbird and Trident 🔱 with a triple, the first gen are getting better looking with age albeit in a day glo nuts way 😎 personally I’d put the big triple in the Thruxton RS and detune slightly back to say 145hp,
@@78Outlaw yes, very early speed triples were like monsters with a single round headlight followed quickly with twins. Ironically when the Daytona was discontinued was when they switched to the style of the fairing style headlights without a fairing in the speed triple back in 2005. I like both aesthetics, but to me the twin round feels iconic.
I’m absolutely torn … the Street Triple or the Speed triple? 😣 I ride an F900 R but I want more fun + power ….
I know I'm early on this question but get me out of my misery. Which one do you prefer. Speed twin, speed triple 1200 or ktm 1290 sdr
Tough call - not the Speed triple though!
I think Andy actually prefers the georgous Ducati Streetfighter.
Hi Mr Flyer , I’m tempted to get the 2020 rs - I Save 5k and I never go on the track ….since you have ridden both …. Should I go all out for the new - even if I’m not a track racer
To be honest I loved the 2020 bike, I also think I may prefer the meatier looks - go for it, great saving!
the single headlight does my head in
I could have sworn i watched a RE Meteor test just now, what happened?
That happened to me , tried to comment but TMF must have uploaded it unintentionally to YT instead of this one then taken it down again whilst I was commenting, YT wouldn't let me comment , confused me , thought I'd offended someone lol .
Good morning.. great content as always
Im looking to purchase either a 2019 speed triple or a Yamaha mt10 sp 2019
I know it's personal preference but what one would you recommend? And are bikes with 10,000 miles on them ok to purchase?
Many thanks🙏
I’ve missed the triple noise since I sold my 2013 street triple. Have you got a ride on the new BMW s1000r lined up? I’d be interested to see how you think it compares to the previous model.
No I haven't - but i'm sure I'll get a go later in the year....
An off-topic question: Will you have a review of the new Yamaha Tracer 9 GT?
I hope too yes!
Nice looking bike but would like different color scheme . Hey I don't see your Interceptor in the garage ,I know your having some upgrades done to it.
That’s why...
Would you say its bigger and bulkier that the 1290 superduke? 👍👍
No - if anything the other way around...
What's the insectoid front end about? Divisive to say the least...
I thought you approached that junction at 2:20 too quickly but then I realised I was watching at x 1.5 speed 🤣🤣🤣
Mr Flier, I recall having read somewhere that lithium ion batteries aren't a good idea for use with heated grips. Do you know if this is still the case, or if battery tech has improved to the point where this is no longer so ?
First I've heard of it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer My own battery's an AGM one but I'll certainly try to ascertain if Lithium ones are now ok with the heated grips. I think the previous issue was due to insufficient voltage at tickover when at traffic lights, town speeds etc, when the alternator rotor isn't spinning fast enough.
Would love to see your comparison on this vs a 2021 cb1000r
I’d like to see the s1000r in the mix too
Needs a tail tidy. Agree bold colours would be good.
Same. The 2018 version is more elegant, finished and with character between the headlight and the position of the exhaust.
Great review. Just from your mike it sounds smoother than the MT-09. If you don't like those bar end mirrors, can you change them for conventionals?
I am the fortunate owner of "19 ST and I'm pleased as punch. I had a '19 Yam MT09 before & I think if I had had the SP version I would never have given up that bike. As it was it had an incredible engine but less than ideal suspension & was a bit nervous on the open road. My Speedy has eliminated that shortcoming and is just the S model. The added torque is also nice as well as the finish in white with the warm pewter frame and black engine / wheels... I get a hardon just looking at it.
Crikey! Lucky you!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, yes I am! I owned a lot of bikes over the years but, frankly, this Triumph tops them all handily, even an '05 ZX10 (my former favorite)! It feels as though it were carved from solid billet and handles like a dream! An excellent aphrodisiac!😛
Please, keep up the great reviews! You're one of my "real world" favorite reviewers!!
Yeah, where did the RE Meteor review go?????
Have you heard any rumours that a Speed Twin R version is on the cards ?
Nope - have you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer unfortunately not......but some faint murmers here and there nothing definite.....maybe ask a few of your Triumph contacts?
Wonder why Triumph sometimes puts the drive on the left and sometimes on the right?
I've wondered that too!
Great review got to admit Im not a fan of recent Triumphs I think you could be correct the colours available are a tad boring. Are you going to up date us on the progress with the Royal Enfield project?
I wish I had something to update you with! Still being done, the estimate was "about 2 weeks" - that was 5 months ago!!! ...and this is the second try I've had as the first custom house let me down, one well known custom house just flatly refused to do it (and it's not like I'm not paying full price!!) - proving very hard to get a bike customised!!
So neevesy reckoned its too firm for road really, you?
I hear it's very good on track plus it's got big hp up top.. but unless you push it, it's very civil.
We literally didn't have a summer, hoping this years different. March is looking crap so far though
Hi TMF, I noticed you pulled the RE 350 meteor video. I had looked forward to seeing that one as I've discovered the fun of riding smaller bikes over heavy and expensive big bikes. Hope you are still going to feature it. Cheers
Cant believes the RE not back yet. Hope it's worth the wait.
So do I!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer size 12 needed
Very odd?? Watched the Meteor video earlier but now it has been taken down. However I thought that again I would remark on the seemingly poorer quality of the video definition, particularly in full screen on my 22" monitor, of this video and was going back to compare with the RE Meteor to compare when I found it was missing. The RE Meteor was perfect in every way. It just interests me why the quality of the videos vary, this one looking like a poor computer game lacking definition and clarity. Are you using different cameras, different processing software or is it simply the weather conditions? Well as always the review is no the less informative, at times comical and always interesting. Sorry to put in that whinge but hope you understand, like your bike reviews I have to mention the bad with the good.
No problem Ray - Royal Enfield asked me to remove the Meteor video so I had to hastily replace it with this one - it takes a while for TH-cam to process the HD version, if you watch it again it may well be sharper....(plus it was a dull day and lighting makes a world of difference with GoPros)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perhaps Royal Enfield can't deal with the sudden sales increase of the Meteor your video might generate ! Perhaps see more in the future, thanks for the reply.
Test riding the RS in a few days Mr Flyer. Was preparing myself for a bumpy ride as I've read a few reports of very hard suspension. You made brief reference to it but also said a plush ride. Are these other reports overplaying this issue and its actually a good set up for the road? Be very interested to know you views. Thanks.
Well it's as expected for this type of bike - its adjustable so you can tone it down (I had the same issue with my Street triple which I adjusted out)
Ayyyeeee - Just ordered a 2021 MT09SP look forward to your eventual review of it!
Did you see my review of the SP when it first came out? Love that bike...congrats!
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah i've seen your review. i did ride the prev gen it was so exciting. i'm referring to the new cyclops 2021 model. triple love! anyhow have a good day TMF.
Would you have a Ducati Street fighter over this?
Oh yes 100%
Good review. The obvious question is the suspension too hard for the road ? (I've read the MCN review !)
The other question , what's the best road bike a 2020 Speed Triple 1050 RS, or a 2021 Speed Triple 1200 RS ?
MCN gave the TRIUMPH SPEED TRIPLE 1050 RS (2018 - 2020)
5/5
Its used so £5,000 cheaper.
@@landedzentry well exactly and how much power is really needed on the road ?
I'm sure on track the new Speed Triple 1200 RS is a significant upgrade, the big question for road riders is "Do I really need it ?"
@@karlosh9286 Jaguar were doing this a few years ago: Setting up their cars for Norscheifer Ring fastest lap, the result was a otherwise great car with teeth rattling suspension thus ruining a fabulous "Gentleman's Express".
*The Speed Triple is not a track bike, its a road bike* !!!
I would buy one only if Triumph could show me a demo bike with softer suspension - if not Triumph have ruined the 2021 Speed Triple with inappropriate bonkers rock hard ride. IMHO.3
Its funny how all reviews say its smooth and powerful and all but no emphasises if feels torquey. Something i feel this bike doesnt feel like. Where as everyone keeps gushing about the torque on the yamaha mt 09. Is it the case?
Didn't notice any lack of torque I must say!
Was the meteor video taken down?
Yep
I love seeing the English villages and country roads you ride, fond memories.....just wouldn’t be able to hack the weather any longer..great review as usual... greetings from España
Yes I'm with you - I HATE the British weather and if Mrs Flyer was up for it would move South in a trice.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer España has problems, However it's still a lovely country to retire to...forget all the rubbish about the ''expat'' society. Most of us pensioners want to live our lives out in a kinder warmer climate...we ain't all 'hanging about in bars'. España is a wonderful country to be a 'Biker'... no wet weather gear, no heated suits...its 23/4c and sunny at the moment.!!
It works for me I can tell you.....
Terrific review as usual Andy. Will have to give it a go whenever we get it in to our dealer here in Nth Queensland, Australia. Reckon she would go like a cut snake!! With you 100% on changing out the can. Stay safe brother.
Also don't despair on the weather. It'll come round..... hopefully...
We're moving into winter now (Canberra, Australia) brrrr
Trouble is here there are no guarantees - although it is warm and sunny today at last.....
Hmm, still like (prefer) the heavy set look and beefy sound of the previous 1050 model.
However, yet to see this new model in the flesh but I do prefer some shiny paint.
Many thanks for the video.
Yeah I agree on both points.....
Great TMF review as always. TMF have you tried the Beeline Moto navagation module? Its a Uk based company that was featured on Dragons Den and Triumph just launched a special edition version.
Yes I have - in fact I own one (see my review video)
I think in a year they'll release an RR model.
Would't surprise me - hate it when they do that...
How good would it look in British racing green?
Very good indeed I’d imagine....
i got the furygan gloves similar to those but with that lovely logo in black and white. they look superb 44 quid i think.
Cracking stuff.. deffo think one of these will be going in the toy shed next to the triple rs..
Summer starts on June 21st! Rubbish spring though agree
...that's when the nights start drawing in!!!
Very Nice First impressions video , Hows the ride ? Is it too stiff for the road ? Can it Tour ?
I found it fine and yes....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks .
What about the tires?.....😎🇨🇦
Hope it's got a fuel gauge!
I don't mind the matte gray color. On the other hand, that headlight housing could not be uglier. Reminds me of a praying mantis head! And a tail tidy would be nice!