getting seriously pissed off with TH-cam algorithms hiding 44T’s videos way down my subs list even when I try and find them within minutes of them being uploaded. Twats. Great vid tho
@@FortyFourTeeth Sod the algorithm. I'm gonna hit that bell and be checking your uploads regularly because your content is awesome. Never water it down.
Its great to see someone actually giving a balanced and honest review. Too many people seem too happy to read from the press release and call it done. Great work 44T.
Coming from a 790 Duke this bike felt alien to me. Riding position felt similar but footpegs felt are so high up. The feeling on the road was totally different experience. The RS felt numb to the road, it just absorbed everything. It would just hold its line, the never seemed to move around it would just flow through corners. Totally strange experience and actually unnerving at first. So much power but it doesn't jerk or get away from you, you only get what you ask for unlike the 790 which is very urgent in comparison.
@@AYYOFLOCKA Hey the 1200 was a friends not mine. Iv ridden it a couple times and an rsv4 and i definitely prefer the 790 for the hills than either. Far more fun. The 1200 feels too good almost. Its not as playful as the 790.
I have a 2019 and I'm gonna trade it in for one of these. Although I'm interested to see what Suzuki is going to bring to the table, if this new GSXS will be a legit supernaked.
As a Sprint ST 1050 owner (who’s under 40!), I long for an non-boat anchor engine in a sport tourer chassis. Here’s hoping they do it! It would make for such a mega bike.
One strange thing i dont understand is how folks rave and carry on how wonderfully AWESOME the Yamaha CP3 900 engine is...I mean it really gets the accolades! But I dont seem to hear similar opinion towards the RS? I would have thought being more powerful and higher revving (i think?) it would get even more praise than the much lower powered CP3 Yamaha motor? Are the both not similar firing orders? Is the "cross plane" THAT much different that it attracts such adoration compared to other triples? BTW I DO own a '22 Yamaha MT-09 with the TRULY intoxicating CP3 890cc motor ....if the 1200RS has a similar nature then I want one! I mean if it is the 170 hp version of the little 117hp CP3 ....IS that the case? Or not?
BTW The rumors appear consistant and persistant that Yamaha is just about to reveal a brand new R! TRIPLE! At least one source suggests it will be 1100cc and almost all the sources suggest it being TURBO charged to boot! Can you imagine A wonderful natured CP3 similarly adorable to the MT09 motor except DOUBLE the power?? Which a Turbo 1100 triple could EASILY deliver (double would be like 235hp) It would simply destroy everything in the class INCLUDING Italian V4s and Austrian 1290s and even would give the H2 a royal pain its arse! Besides you KNOW Yamaha will make any R1 Turbo r otherwise competitvely lightweight so it is NOT going to be the heavy beast the supercharged H2 is! Turbos are lighter than SC anyway and a three cylinder is considerably less metal than an Inline 4 Actually I figure its totally possibly Yamaha could build Turbo Triple R1 that is just as light as their current normally aspirated R1. Also note that with today's turbo technology the troubling turbo lag with hard hitting power is a thing of the past if done right...apparently the key is in using sophisticated fueling programs and running larger (than ld school) turbos but using less boost...it COULD be perfection? We shall soon see I suppose
I've got a 2020 Speed Triple RS. Only goes on the road, it's too fricking quick for me , speed limits, or my abilities. I do find it quite comfortable. I'm itching to get a go on this one, although I think my wallet will be safe this summer (unlike last summer, when it got emptied on a Speed Triple RS) As for the old Speed Triple RS not being any quicker than a Street Triple RS , well maybe, but my naff gear selection means I find riding a Speed Triple RS more enjoyable. I don't have to bang up and down the gear box as much as I did on test rides of the Street RS. Yeah the Street RS was more agile, but I guess I like lazy gear selection, and just using the low down torque coming out of corners.
Coming from motocross to a 2020 street triple RS I didn't notice the shifting. They also have quick shifter. If your just riding the road the street is a better all arounder
@@benfarr6049 I could've had a Street. I preferred the extra low down torque of the Speed. The Speed isn't as nimble in the corners, but I'm not much good at corners anyway !
Loved the video guys, been waiting for this for ages being an ex 1050RS owner. Would love to see a back to back with its rivals superduke/speed triple like you and mozzie did wity the 765 and 890 👍 Through in the others like new s1000r and tuono would be a winner 🏆 Keep up the great work guys 👍
I would be in love with the s1000R save for one issue being they mount the headlight and clocks to the FORKS rather than the frame! IMHO that just sucks for adding a windscreen! With a frame mounted headlight like the MT-10 and 1200RS there is the potential for adding a windscreen that WONT be trying to steer the bike in strong cross winds etc. The only thing with the Triumph is there are no robust windscreens available that I can find! Just a tiny one from Puig is all I have seen s far as opposed to the MT10 there is a whole selection of avialble sizes
I test rode this a few weeks back. Handles lovely and brakes are very strong. Felt light and flickable. Well built, good finish. The Tuono felt heavy and slow to turn in comparison. The Triumph does loose out on mid range punch to the Other bikes in this sector. This bike would have been a contender if they separated the wheelie control and traction control. I find that just lazy.
Triumph is completely dropping the ball on electronics! I love my 765rs but it could use an imu and advanced electronics. I'd love to buy a 765 moto2 but for that price with old tech? And now this, what's the point of an imu if you can't have wheelies and TC separate?
I am impressed by your riding skills, I would be more interested in an indepth road review as I have the current model and not sure if should upgrade next year. Thank you.
Why as an OEM, not picking on Triumph, would you have a press launch (lots of $$$) and not have a suspension guy(s) there to dial in the bike for the journalist??? Here's your bike for the day.....lets set the sag, turn the knobs for street vs track and go have fun. Adjust through out the day as needed. This is 2021 and IMO it's very short sighted by the OEM's. Looks like a really nice bike.
I totally agree! I own one and it is so comfortable and you can trust the bike in every corner: you didn’t feel like you’re going to high side from super nose dive, you don’t feel like the ass is constantly going to give out moving higher or lower in a corner passing someone then going max wrist, or any real problems I’d bitch about. I’m 6’5 and my lanky ass can make this bike do whatever I want on the track or street. I own a panigale V4s and this speed triple is no dog by any means.
Thanks for the review I was really thinking about swapping out my 1050rs for the new one and this put me right off. Still going to try it but as it seems they have sacrificed road for track no point swapping my road bike for it. Maybe time to update the zx10r instead.
I met a couple of lads at Kielder who had one each. They said the same even though they'd had them to a local TT racer who twiddled the suspension, they said the bike was better but still firm and definitely different to the old road biased 1050. Hmmmm!
Thank you for this very honest review and comparison to the previous SpeedTriple. I think the old one will be more for me as a pure road machine compared to this 180hp monster of a bike
Well, we have seen the jurno's chasing BHP cred with sports bikes. Now big naked bikes too. To me, anything ballpark is going to thrill beyond expectations. Just buy the one that rocks your world and ride with your mates.
I've got an SDR and an MT09, and they're both absolute blasts. I'd say, upping a sporty triple engine to 1160 will probably push the Triumph ahead of the SDR. I can definitely see one in my future!
Gday Al. I moved to an SDR last October after 5 Triumphs. Don’t think I should even sit on one of these new buggers. Miss that triple intake growl so effin’ much.
I was considering shopping for deals on a 2020 1050 RS however his description of them plus the issues I’ve read online today about gearbox issues has convinced me to not bother.
@@LondonSteveLee A search of Speed Triple RS gearbox issues will turn up a lot of results. Seems the quick shifter can cause serious damage to the gearbox. I love the look of the 1050 but would hate having a gearbox grenade just out of warranty.
Thanks a lot for the comparison with the competition about the chassis !! This is what I was hoping and waiting. Glad to know how the new Speed 1200 ranks against it's rivals. I laughed so much with that cow giving birth 😂😂😂 I can't wait to see the video shootout : Tuono V4 vs Streetfighter V4 vs Superduke vs Speed 1200 😍 Which is best in each compartement (agility, braking, engine, gearbox, ergonomics, etc).
Quick question AL, is it more track focused or road as majority of its life is on the road ? Just curious how soft can you make it. Thanks for your review
Yep those Yellow DHL planes fly over my house landing at East Midlands. Some great roads out Melton way, the B6047 towards Market Harborough is one of the best.
Nice review. Seems more refined & classy compared to the lary competition. Hopefully you can dial out the stiffness. (Make childish comment now.) Group test should be a right hoot. New GSXS1000 out Monday but not holding my breath for a class leader.
Suzuki have given up. A mild reheat with a sprinkling of electronics - Just like the new Hayabusa. You wouldn't believe they just won the MotoGP championship. Sad really.
Awwwww you bugger Al! I was trying to get this bike out of my mind, so as to not go from one PCP (ST RS) into another - but I'll have to give it A LOT of thought now!!
Thanks for posting! I just picked up a ’22 and it’s a kick in the pants 👍 I don’t like that wheelie control is linked to TC, but that’s my only real gripe. I got the BT Moto flash for my ‘20 R1 and love it. I’m definitely going to get this bike flashed! Thanks again for your cool videos 👍
Thank you for the great report, Al, loved it! Can't wait for you guys to gang-test it.. and I'm excited to hear Karen von Grumble's comments on ergonomics, since I'm 6.4, too.
I bought a 2020 superduke r 4 months ago. I really wish I would of waited. Then again its been freezing and I haven't given it a good thrashing yet. First service and its had a wiring relocation recall, due to the rear subframe rubbing wires bare.
As allways the realistic report on this bike. Thx from an aging and fast Tuono-Rider who spend years and money prior tuning his old Speed triple till it dropped. Love the new bike exept the poor exaust position and fixing by the footrests...
Have heard a few testers complaining about how stiff the bike is. Shame because that shouldn’t be the case with the state of Triumphs home countries roads. The suspension development team should have ironed that out, no excuse at the price of bikes today. Good looking bike all the same.
Nice review, in classic 44t style we love, i have been so tempted to get one (still maybe will) and sell my Street Triple 765 RS, i dont ride on track so may just keep the 765 now.
Yes, been looking forward to this one! I saw Bike World's review went up yesterday and deliberately didn't watch it. Saving myself for unadulterated 44teeth.
It somehow sounds kind of manageable or sensible or something? I cant wait to see you review and compare it against the Aprilia tuono Factory. Also, will you be getting your handss on the standard tuono? Have you seen it? Cant make up my mind about it? Donnington looks cool.
Having had the previous three generations of Speed Triple R/RS I can tell you why the back end felt weird. All three of my Triples equipped with the Ohlins TTX suspension came from the factory with fuck all spring preload in it. Looking at how much the bike compressed when you leaned on it stood next to it talking-I can already see this is the case. All three of my bikes had the preload to the minimum levels. All three bikes had to be taken to a professional to get the sag and static sags dialed in. They all needed over three whole turns of the preload collar to get the required amount. And I'm not fat weighing 86kg. Once dialled in they all became weapons in the bends.
Wish they'd make them in more colours. For 4 years now you can only get the Street Triple RS in black, white or grey. Thinks it's the same for the Speed. Want to see some metallic reds/greens. Also, not being able to speed on camera due to the Joe Achilles precedent is a shame.
Yes, the old Tiger Sport with the 1050 engine was a good underrated machine. A Tiger Sport restyled with the 1200 engine could compete with the BMW S1000XR and the Super Duke GT. Definitely would interest me.
Does sound naughty. I was looking to trade in my Tuono Factory 2018 for the Ducati Street Fighter S. It didn't feel any quicker but was quite peaky so lass mid range than my Tuono. This looks like it's something I need to try. The KTM I had new with the original 1290R 1.0 66 Reg. Although was fun it fell to bits and just was not worth the premium price for a sub standard quality bike.
I'm confident that a fully faered version will come out eventually, in the same sense the Tiger 1050 Sport was a faered version of the speed triple, yeah yeah, taller and whatnot, but that's the kinda variant of bike that sells, not sportsbikes
Are you planning on doing a longer road ride ? Seriously your roads in England are woeful, no corners or elevation ,you both need to plan a holiday to Australia and experience some awesome roads we are so lucky .
I always found my Street Triple 675 2013 front end very floaty and imprecise. That was my only complaint about the bike. Interesting that the front end is more weighted on the 1200 RS.
Great review Al. I currently own the old model Speed Triple and now I'm sad and depressed. I won't be updating any time soon due to costs, but I still enjoy riding my old polished turd.😉👍🇦🇺
@@LondonSteveLee I thought the old model has heaps of mid range does lack higher in the revs. Handles great on smooth roads very planted front end but I find it terrible on bumpy roads may be it's my setup? Still puts a smile on my face great bike overall.👍
@@FortyFourTeeth ?? Lol! Seriously? Thats the reason MSV gave ref the camera?? Maybe they should ban bikes from their track days as they can hurt you too lol...We're all doomed if we keep accepting this kind of BS....but hey, as usual, the needle returns to the start of song and we all sing along like before
Alright guys quality as usual , a wee question I'm probably a novice and after a Volvo wrecked my legs I'm noo a shitebag novice . I digress I love th sound of these speed triples but I'm not sure I've got the heart for the 1200 do you reckon the 1050 would be more suitable to my skeletal frailty
for some reason the looks arent doing it for me. The street version looks a bit cleaner (even if theyre very similar) (600 ss rider here looking for a proper naked for my next upgrade)
Hmmm....Michael Rutter lapped the last version (2018) Speed Triple 1050 RS faster than a 2017 Superduke at Donnington albeit slower than the all mighty Tuono! The 2021 Speed Triple 1200 could be a Tuono slayer!
Sold my diavel 1260s for this speed triple 1200 and haven’t regretted it once. It is the perfect combo of a panigale V4s vs diavel. God the dash is so much nicer in person. This bike is awesome. I simply hated triumph bikes but this one sold me instantly. I bought mine with a 15lbs lighter titanium exhaust and 15 more hp and goddamn ole mighty the bike gets scary. The throttle response is so responsive… whiskey throttling is a very real possibility if you don’t respect that throttle once modified. I’m a pangigale V4s owner and lover but this bike will handle with some stiff competition.
The MT-10 is not really a super naked - it lacks power and ground clearance (footpegs) but my god it's a brilliant, brilliant real world road bike - which is what most of us want really if we were being truthful with ourselves.
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt Yes the MT-10 is good on track - but you'll be scraping footpegs everywhere and having difficulty with body position with those bars - well - I did anyway!
@@LondonSteveLee I agree, when pushing really hard on track I find the high bars to be annoying. But coming from a supersport I can live with it when doing the occasional track day because on the road its so much more comfortable. This weekend I just did a 700 mile round trip on her loaded up with saddle bags and luggage and had no issues with getting tired.
I think the cost difference between this and a 765RS is ridiculous. £10.5k vs £15k, according to the triumph website. This has no benefits other than a punchier motor, but the 765 is not lacking there. I think these will be a rarity by comparison.
I have a ''16 Speed Triple and this has definitely got me interested. The gearbox indeed is clunky, and especially first gear throttle response is jerky at times. If they fixed those, and a bunch of other bits and bobs, then I'm excited. Can't say I love the dash, but I'm a luddite who doesn't want to lose their analog tach. But any modern sporty bike has done away with that so guess I'm fucked. Maybe I missed it in the vid, but how's the heat output?
This thing is begging for a factory full fairing kit. I know Triumph has said that they may not release a standalone sport bike based on this chassis but hopefully they will offer an add on kit to convert the bike.
Professional motorcycle journalism right here: "Yeah, It sounds like a cow giving birth", never change 44teeth gang.
"It just oozes filth"
I spat coffee all over my phone laughing at that comment, class.
I loled my face off🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
getting seriously pissed off with TH-cam algorithms hiding 44T’s videos way down my subs list even when I try and find them within minutes of them being uploaded. Twats. Great vid tho
It’s a common theme sadly
Most set upload releases to the hour, do it hr and 1 min and It will be the top.
Turn on notifications
@@FortyFourTeeth Sod the algorithm. I'm gonna hit that bell and be checking your uploads regularly because your content is awesome. Never water it down.
Its great to see someone actually giving a balanced and honest review. Too many people seem too happy to read from the press release and call it done.
Great work 44T.
Coming from a 790 Duke this bike felt alien to me. Riding position felt similar but footpegs felt are so high up.
The feeling on the road was totally different experience. The RS felt numb to the road, it just absorbed everything. It would just hold its line, the never seemed to move around it would just flow through corners. Totally strange experience and actually unnerving at first. So much power but it doesn't jerk or get away from you, you only get what you ask for unlike the 790 which is very urgent in comparison.
Hey! This is a bit random, but I'm currently on a 790 duke and thinking of moving over to the 1200 rs, how are you finding it a year on?
@@AYYOFLOCKA Hey the 1200 was a friends not mine. Iv ridden it a couple times and an rsv4 and i definitely prefer the 790 for the hills than either. Far more fun. The 1200 feels too good almost. Its not as playful as the 790.
“A raging Casey Stoner” - TH-cam quote of the week😂
UK has 4 cameras in every corner, and when you want to put one in good use, you are not allowed
It's really not that bad unless you're down south. Get up to the Peak District or further north and you can misbehave just fine.
Why are riders not allowed to use cameras on track?
loving all the new content right now!
Great vid Al. Have to say your commentary has come along heaps and bundles, cannot wait to test ride this new speed triple. 👍
That new RST suit is so sick. I Love it!
Reminds me of Fruit Stripes gum.
Can’t wait to watch your review on the BMW S1000R. Really great to see you back outside. 👍🏻 Great review 👍🏻
I have a 2019 and I'm gonna trade it in for one of these. Although I'm interested to see what Suzuki is going to bring to the table, if this new GSXS will be a legit supernaked.
I still prefer the old one with the high level exhausts but will take one for a test ride
Let’s hope triumph make a killing with this one, top review Mr Fagan
As a Sprint ST 1050 owner (who’s under 40!), I long for an non-boat anchor engine in a sport tourer chassis. Here’s hoping they do it! It would make for such a mega bike.
4:16 you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter
Always a good day when I get that notification
Only we dont get it often enough🤔
Great review as always Fagan 👏 Glad Triumph finally delivered...
That is a fine motorcycle, thanks for the impressions. Also the leathers look really nice
That engine sound....lovely. Great job as always. You really know your stuff sir.
One strange thing i dont understand is how folks rave and carry on how wonderfully AWESOME the Yamaha CP3 900 engine is...I mean it really gets the accolades! But I dont seem to hear similar opinion towards the RS? I would have thought being more powerful and higher revving (i think?) it would get even more praise than the much lower powered CP3 Yamaha motor? Are the both not similar firing orders? Is the "cross plane" THAT much different that it attracts such adoration compared to other triples? BTW I DO own a '22 Yamaha MT-09 with the TRULY intoxicating CP3 890cc motor ....if the 1200RS has a similar nature then I want one! I mean if it is the 170 hp version of the little 117hp CP3 ....IS that the case? Or not?
BTW The rumors appear consistant and persistant that Yamaha is just about to reveal a brand new R! TRIPLE! At least one source suggests it will be 1100cc and almost all the sources suggest it being TURBO charged to boot! Can you imagine A wonderful natured CP3 similarly adorable to the MT09 motor except DOUBLE the power?? Which a Turbo 1100 triple could EASILY deliver (double would be like 235hp) It would simply destroy everything in the class INCLUDING Italian V4s and Austrian 1290s and even would give the H2 a royal pain its arse! Besides you KNOW Yamaha will make any R1 Turbo r otherwise competitvely lightweight so it is NOT going to be the heavy beast the supercharged H2 is! Turbos are lighter than SC anyway and a three cylinder is considerably less metal than an Inline 4 Actually I figure its totally possibly Yamaha could build Turbo Triple R1 that is just as light as their current normally aspirated R1. Also note that with today's turbo technology the troubling turbo lag with hard hitting power is a thing of the past if done right...apparently the key is in using sophisticated fueling programs and running larger (than ld school) turbos but using less boost...it COULD be perfection? We shall soon see I suppose
I've got a 2020 Speed Triple RS. Only goes on the road, it's too fricking quick for me , speed limits, or my abilities. I do find it quite comfortable. I'm itching to get a go on this one, although I think my wallet will be safe this summer (unlike last summer, when it got emptied on a Speed Triple RS)
As for the old Speed Triple RS not being any quicker than a Street Triple RS , well maybe, but my naff gear selection means I find riding a Speed Triple RS more enjoyable. I don't have to bang up and down the gear box as much as I did on test rides of the Street RS. Yeah the Street RS was more agile, but I guess I like lazy gear selection, and just using the low down torque coming out of corners.
Coming from motocross to a 2020 street triple RS I didn't notice the shifting. They also have quick shifter. If your just riding the road the street is a better all arounder
@@benfarr6049 I could've had a Street. I preferred the extra low down torque of the Speed. The Speed isn't as nimble in the corners, but I'm not much good at corners anyway !
Loved the video guys, been waiting for this for ages being an ex 1050RS owner. Would love to see a back to back with its rivals superduke/speed triple like you and mozzie did wity the 765 and 890 👍
Through in the others like new s1000r and tuono would be a winner 🏆
Keep up the great work guys 👍
I would be in love with the s1000R save for one issue being they mount the headlight and clocks to the FORKS rather than the frame! IMHO that just sucks for adding a windscreen! With a frame mounted headlight like the MT-10 and 1200RS there is the potential for adding a windscreen that WONT be trying to steer the bike in strong cross winds etc. The only thing with the Triumph is there are no robust windscreens available that I can find! Just a tiny one from Puig is all I have seen s far as opposed to the MT10 there is a whole selection of avialble sizes
If everything goes to plan I'll pick up one of these around this time next year. They've knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
Did you get it?
I test rode this a few weeks back. Handles lovely and brakes are very strong. Felt light and flickable. Well built, good finish. The Tuono felt heavy and slow to turn in comparison. The Triumph does loose out on mid range punch to the Other bikes in this sector.
This bike would have been a contender if they separated the wheelie control and traction control. I find that just lazy.
Triumph is completely dropping the ball on electronics! I love my 765rs but it could use an imu and advanced electronics. I'd love to buy a 765 moto2 but for that price with old tech? And now this, what's the point of an imu if you can't have wheelies and TC separate?
I am impressed by your riding skills, I would be more interested in an indepth road review as I have the current model and not sure if should upgrade next year. Thank you.
Why as an OEM, not picking on Triumph, would you have a press launch (lots of $$$) and not have a suspension guy(s) there to dial in the bike for the journalist??? Here's your bike for the day.....lets set the sag, turn the knobs for street vs track and go have fun. Adjust through out the day as needed. This is 2021 and IMO it's very short sighted by the OEM's. Looks like a really nice bike.
I totally agree! I own one and it is so comfortable and you can trust the bike in every corner: you didn’t feel like you’re going to high side from super nose dive, you don’t feel like the ass is constantly going to give out moving higher or lower in a corner passing someone then going max wrist, or any real problems I’d bitch about. I’m 6’5 and my lanky ass can make this bike do whatever I want on the track or street. I own a panigale V4s and this speed triple is no dog by any means.
Maybe they thought journos would know how to adjust suspension?
Thanks for the review I was really thinking about swapping out my 1050rs for the new one and this put me right off. Still going to try it but as it seems they have sacrificed road for track no point swapping my road bike for it. Maybe time to update the zx10r instead.
I met a couple of lads at Kielder who had one each. They said the same even though they'd had them to a local TT racer who twiddled the suspension, they said the bike was better but still firm and definitely different to the old road biased 1050. Hmmmm!
Wow, in the sunlight that bronze flake really pops! Awesome job Del. Cheers!
Thank you for this very honest review and comparison to the previous SpeedTriple. I think the old one will be more for me as a pure road machine compared to this 180hp monster of a bike
Yeah I watched this thinking the 1200 is an awesome machine but I think I want the old one! Maybe I'm getting old!
Well, we have seen the jurno's chasing BHP cred with sports bikes. Now big naked bikes too. To me, anything ballpark is going to thrill beyond expectations. Just buy the one that rocks your world and ride with your mates.
Finally it looks more street triple esque, so much better and great review as always
Not a bad offering for the money. I think I'd spend just a bit more and go for the usual hypernaked bikes, like Tuono or Superduke.
I've got an SDR and an MT09, and they're both absolute blasts. I'd say, upping a sporty triple engine to 1160 will probably push the Triumph ahead of the SDR. I can definitely see one in my future!
Gday Al. I moved to an SDR last October after 5 Triumphs. Don’t think I should even sit on one of these new buggers. Miss that triple intake growl so effin’ much.
10 Speed Triple reviews show up at the same time - click straight on the 44 teeth review - enjoyed that one, Cheers Nigel
basically the best Motorcycle channel. 10/10!
I was considering shopping for deals on a 2020 1050 RS however his description of them plus the issues I’ve read online today about gearbox issues has convinced me to not bother.
Gearbox issues aren't that common - not compared to, say, an Aprilia Tuono.
@@LondonSteveLee A search of Speed Triple RS gearbox issues will turn up a lot of results. Seems the quick shifter can cause serious damage to the gearbox. I love the look of the 1050 but would hate having a gearbox grenade just out of warranty.
That wheelie...!! I salute you, Sir..
Thanks a lot for the comparison with the competition about the chassis !! This is what I was hoping and waiting. Glad to know how the new Speed 1200 ranks against it's rivals.
I laughed so much with that cow giving birth 😂😂😂
I can't wait to see the video shootout : Tuono V4 vs Streetfighter V4 vs Superduke vs Speed 1200 😍 Which is best in each compartement (agility, braking, engine, gearbox, ergonomics, etc).
Great to watch and even more so seeing Statham on a lot of my local roads and routes! Did miss a few great roads though locally! Love it!! 😍👍
The Speed Triple for me screamed midlife crises, I'm 52....this on the other hand.
Just get a busa cheaper and does everything ( not the new one ) .
Great review as always, really weird seeing you riding in my local area.
Quick question AL, is it more track focused or road as majority of its life is on the road ? Just curious how soft can you make it. Thanks for your review
It’s more track focused than the old bike but still heavily road biased
Thanks 🙏
Brilliant review Al, I'm struggling to think of a reason why a bike journalist isn't allowed a camera when on track in the UK?
Because MSV love a man with a clipboard. Mary Whitehouse would be proud.
@@LondonSteveLeeMary Whitehouse? You must be 60+? 😂
@@robertclark5733 Older than rocks but still quicker than many! :D
It's very strange watching Al on my local roads! 😅
I was thinking that. Looks very familiar 🤔
Yeah, zouch to melton
me too live round the corner :D
Yep, same here
Yep those Yellow DHL planes fly over my house landing at East Midlands. Some great roads out Melton way, the B6047 towards Market Harborough is one of the best.
Nice review. Seems more refined & classy compared to the lary competition. Hopefully you can dial out the stiffness. (Make childish comment now.) Group test should be a right hoot. New GSXS1000 out Monday but not holding my breath for a class leader.
Gotta be a knob you can twist somewhere ;)
@@c0c0asauce That's the spirit. ; )
Suzuki have given up. A mild reheat with a sprinkling of electronics - Just like the new Hayabusa. You wouldn't believe they just won the MotoGP championship. Sad really.
@@LondonSteveLee Yes you're probably right unfortunately. Although I shall live in hope until proved wrong.....so Monday then lol.
Awwwww you bugger Al! I was trying to get this bike out of my mind, so as to not go from one PCP (ST RS) into another - but I'll have to give it A LOT of thought now!!
Thanks for posting! I just picked up a ’22 and it’s a kick in the pants 👍 I don’t like that wheelie control is linked to TC, but that’s my only real gripe.
I got the BT Moto flash for my ‘20 R1 and love it. I’m definitely going to get this bike flashed! Thanks again for your cool videos 👍
Another great review Fagan 👏
Glad to see Triumph making some really great bikes. Looking forward to their new bikes for 2024.
Thank you for the great report, Al, loved it! Can't wait for you guys to gang-test it.. and I'm excited to hear Karen von Grumble's comments on ergonomics, since I'm 6.4, too.
fuck yes, feels like a damn lifetime waitin for this one
Your reviews are so good, I just enjoy them so much.
Dream of a review Al. Keep up the honest flowery words and honest reviews. Thanks mate. AndyB
The way he says it “Super Juke Aah” 😄
I bought a 2020 superduke r 4 months ago. I really wish I would of waited. Then again its been freezing and I haven't given it a good thrashing yet. First service and its had a wiring relocation recall, due to the rear subframe rubbing wires bare.
Melton Mowbsssss, where I live 😊 weird route you guys took looking for good roads though. The Saxby Rd has average speed cameras all down it too.
As allways the realistic report on this bike. Thx from an aging and fast Tuono-Rider who spend years and money prior tuning his old Speed triple till it dropped. Love the new bike exept the poor exaust position and fixing by the footrests...
Great review, and sounds like a terrific bike. Looking forward to a group test, pretty sure you do too ;)
You didn’t seem exactly smitten, Al.
Do you think a bit of twiddling with the clickers will sort out the issues with the suspension?
Have heard a few testers complaining about how stiff the bike is. Shame because that shouldn’t be the case with the state of Triumphs home countries roads. The suspension development team should have ironed that out, no excuse at the price of bikes today. Good looking bike all the same.
I don't mind if it is a bit more stable handling, the big question is...
Does it feel like 178hp on the track? Or is Triumph telling some fibs?
The 2018 rs version is quite good, imo. It is the maximum evolution I agree. Ohlins, gadgets, and 150hp... not bad.
Booked a test ride but after this review by Al I think I'll just go ahead n buy. Watch me fly by on it. Lancashire. Nice 1 Al for your review on it.
I'm hoping that the new 1200 triple finds its way into the Tiger Sport, it would be a real wolf in sheep's clothing if they decide to build it..
A must ‼❕,❔
Looks like it kind of did
100mph pop at the end ....nice
Nice review, in classic 44t style we love, i have been so tempted to get one (still maybe will) and sell my Street Triple 765 RS, i dont ride on track so may just keep the 765 now.
Yes, been looking forward to this one! I saw Bike World's review went up yesterday and deliberately didn't watch it. Saving myself for unadulterated 44teeth.
Love your work Fagan ,Could you do a episode on the gear you wear .Im about to buy my riding stuff and would be great to listen to your tips ?
It somehow sounds kind of manageable or sensible or something? I cant wait to see you review and compare it against the Aprilia tuono Factory. Also, will you be getting your handss on the standard tuono? Have you seen it? Cant make up my mind about it? Donnington looks cool.
Was Fruit Stripe gum a thing in the UK?
Having had the previous three generations of Speed Triple R/RS I can tell you why the back end felt weird. All three of my Triples equipped with the Ohlins TTX suspension came from the factory with fuck all spring preload in it. Looking at how much the bike compressed when you leaned on it stood next to it talking-I can already see this is the case.
All three of my bikes had the preload to the minimum levels. All three bikes had to be taken to a professional to get the sag and static sags dialed in. They all needed over three whole turns of the preload collar to get the required amount. And I'm not fat weighing 86kg. Once dialled in they all became weapons in the bends.
Agreed my 765RS preload was so light. I had to give the shock 4 or 5 turns
Wish they'd make them in more colours. For 4 years now you can only get the Street Triple RS in black, white or grey. Thinks it's the same for the Speed. Want to see some metallic reds/greens. Also, not being able to speed on camera due to the Joe Achilles precedent is a shame.
will they use this engine for the new Tiger 1200, it could be a winner if they did.
No.
Yes, the old Tiger Sport with the 1050 engine was a good underrated machine. A Tiger Sport restyled with the 1200 engine could compete with the BMW S1000XR and the Super Duke GT. Definitely would interest me.
Great review Al. Pity about the jobsworth and the camera! 😂. Will try and get a go on one.👍
Might be time to trade in my Street Triple R 2011, 1200RS with decat could make it only about 10 kilo difference.
Does sound naughty. I was looking to trade in my Tuono Factory 2018 for the Ducati Street Fighter S. It didn't feel any quicker but was quite peaky so lass mid range than my Tuono.
This looks like it's something I need to try. The KTM I had new with the original 1290R 1.0 66 Reg. Although was fun it fell to bits and just was not worth the premium price for a sub standard quality bike.
Great review thank you. Just a question Has the steering stabilizer installed on the bike?
Couldn’t agree more about the outgoing bike’s demeanor. Interested to test ride the new bike before deciding my next purchase.
I'm confident that a fully faered version will come out eventually, in the same sense the Tiger 1050 Sport was a faered version of the speed triple, yeah yeah, taller and whatnot, but that's the kinda variant of bike that sells, not sportsbikes
Didn’t expect to hear Al shouting out my home town on a Sunday morning
Are you planning on doing a longer road ride ? Seriously your roads in England are woeful, no corners or elevation ,you both need to plan a holiday to Australia and experience some awesome roads we are so lucky .
damn i like this wheelie action, i hope you guys would add more of it to your uploads.
I always found my Street Triple 675 2013 front end very floaty and imprecise. That was my only complaint about the bike. Interesting that the front end is more weighted on the 1200 RS.
It certainly isnt floaty or imprecise on the Street 765 RS
thankyou mate that was a truly excellent review
Sounds + looks amazing! Can’t wait to test one
What about comparing this one to the BMW S1000R? Which one you would buy it?
Fantastically done as usual, why couldn't you have your camera on, on track ? Is it an embargo thing ?
Great review Al. I currently own the old model Speed Triple and now I'm sad and depressed. I won't be updating any time soon due to costs, but I still enjoy riding my old polished turd.😉👍🇦🇺
What do you love about the old Speed Triple? You may find the new one is too hard edged for you. The old one is a banging road bike.
@@LondonSteveLee I thought the old model has heaps of mid range does lack higher in the revs. Handles great on smooth roads very planted front end but I find it terrible on bumpy roads may be it's my setup? Still puts a smile on my face great bike overall.👍
@@Flip01 Triumphs are usually renowned for being setup well for bumpy roads - try taking 2-3 clicks of compression damping out.
@@LondonSteveLee thanks will try that.👍
What's the reason for the ban on cameras?
A ski crash involving an F1 driver...
@@FortyFourTeeth I'm sure Michael would be livid at this stupid rule. Bless him and keep up the good work .
@@FortyFourTeeth ?? Lol! Seriously? Thats the reason MSV gave ref the camera?? Maybe they should ban bikes from their track days as they can hurt you too lol...We're all doomed if we keep accepting this kind of BS....but hey, as usual, the needle returns to the start of song and we all sing along like before
I have already ordered my new 1200rs waiting for the arrival in New Zealand hopefully the end of this month (April)
Me too, but my bike will probably be delivered in the latter half of May so one more month of waiting :(
Alright guys quality as usual , a wee question I'm probably a novice and after a Volvo wrecked my legs I'm noo a shitebag novice . I digress I love th sound of these speed triples but I'm not sure I've got the heart for the 1200 do you reckon the 1050 would be more suitable to my skeletal frailty
Which one is best hayabusa 2021 or speed triple 2021 for everyday use and as a allrounder package..
While we're on about tools for the job - what do you prefer to clean you teeth with? A pick axe or a jack hammer?
for some reason the looks arent doing it for me. The street version looks a bit cleaner (even if theyre very similar)
(600 ss rider here looking for a proper naked for my next upgrade)
Hmmm....Michael Rutter lapped the last version (2018) Speed Triple 1050 RS faster than a 2017 Superduke at Donnington albeit slower than the all mighty Tuono! The 2021 Speed Triple 1200 could be a Tuono slayer!
Sold my diavel 1260s for this speed triple 1200 and haven’t regretted it once. It is the perfect combo of a panigale V4s vs diavel. God the dash is so much nicer in person. This bike is awesome. I simply hated triumph bikes but this one sold me instantly. I bought mine with a 15lbs lighter titanium exhaust and 15 more hp and goddamn ole mighty the bike gets scary. The throttle response is so responsive… whiskey throttling is a very real possibility if you don’t respect that throttle once modified. I’m a pangigale V4s owner and lover but this bike will handle with some stiff competition.
Oh, also, might I say that I gave up an Italian to own a Brit, lol. Long live the queens of stone age or something like that, lol.
Surely MSV would let journalists take cameras on track! Ffs it’s a bike launch
Nice video Al! 👍
MSV are a bunch of health and safety wets.
I have been waiting for this since January.
How would you compare the MT-10 or MT-10 SP to this bike?
The MT-10 is not really a super naked - it lacks power and ground clearance (footpegs) but my god it's a brilliant, brilliant real world road bike - which is what most of us want really if we were being truthful with ourselves.
@@LondonSteveLee My MT-10 makes a great track bike. Yamaha really restricts this engine from the factory. A ECU tune unlocks close to 20hp.
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt Yes the MT-10 is good on track - but you'll be scraping footpegs everywhere and having difficulty with body position with those bars - well - I did anyway!
@@LondonSteveLee I agree, when pushing really hard on track I find the high bars to be annoying. But coming from a supersport I can live with it when doing the occasional track day because on the road its so much more comfortable. This weekend I just did a 700 mile round trip on her loaded up with saddle bags and luggage and had no issues with getting tired.
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt Yes the MT-10 is a fabulous sporty real world bike - shame about the small tank - only gripe!
Big question for me is would you have this over the king of naked tuono
I think the cost difference between this and a 765RS is ridiculous.
£10.5k vs £15k, according to the triumph website.
This has no benefits other than a punchier motor, but the 765 is not lacking there. I think these will be a rarity by comparison.
I have a ''16 Speed Triple and this has definitely got me interested. The gearbox indeed is clunky, and especially first gear throttle response is jerky at times. If they fixed those, and a bunch of other bits and bobs, then I'm excited. Can't say I love the dash, but I'm a luddite who doesn't want to lose their analog tach. But any modern sporty bike has done away with that so guess I'm fucked.
Maybe I missed it in the vid, but how's the heat output?
This thing is begging for a factory full fairing kit. I know Triumph has said that they may not release a standalone sport bike based on this chassis but hopefully they will offer an add on kit to convert the bike.