Takara Tomy MP-44 Masterpiece Optimus Prime 3.0
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This is a review of Takara Tomy MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0. where we take a look at the figure, accessories, and talk about the worth.
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Apparently there’s a stand I missed. Disregard that from the criticisms. Overall view is the same. Enjoy your Sunday.
So some people broke the knees. In emgos review he states that the knees are designed to be bent at the upper knee joint first as there is a little slot or else you could break it...
I love the amount of accessories on this thing. I won’t be buying it for the price, let alone since I have 2 primes I am already very pleased with. If the trailer/accessories would have been sold separately I would definitely have consider that! I hope that will happen some time in the future: more play-fun with extra accessories! :)
thank god u let me know that they can keep this mack that transformation would make me not happy at all lol
It's not a proper stand and it barely supports the weight.
@@Mr._Popo some copies are coming broke out the box, the lower knee joint was warped straight out the box on mine, I had even watched every video I could get my hands on to see how to make sure the knees stay ok so I didn't do anything to break them
“Jesus take the wheel!” @21:40 LOL
Sunset Rider tooooo funny! 😂
It’s a breath of fresh air to have someone give a straight up honest review. No beating around the bush. New sub.
The mess in truck mode and the backpack in bot mode really kill it for me. I waited until all were out, ms, te, mp44, and I chose te-01.
Same here. I simply can't get around that backpack. That and the price tags are major turn offs for me.
I think they made the truck kind of realistic
@@CosmicOneX yes, he has a backpack but not a lunar rover accordion folded onto his back. It's unnaturally large . A $400 masterpiece shouldn't have this sacrificial kibble.
@@CosmicOneX I'm glad it works for you. It doesn't work for me. I do like the slender stature of mp44 from the front. If TE adjusted the front silhouette to match that, and kept their engineering with the tidy backpack, plus nice paint, I think we'd have the perfect prime.
@@CosmicOneX Yes we will, dont you worry about that.
Guess whos gonna be MP-50? My guess is Powermaster Optimus Prime, since all you do is mod him slightly in truck mode and make a trailer he can combine with and presto, ANOTHER Optimus in the jungle called Masterpiece
What a reasonably grounded review this is.
We forget that MP-10 was $299 when imported at US MSRP. It wasn't until the Hasbro release when it was sub $200. I own this figure and am perfectly happy with it. Glad to see someone having an honest take on what value is vs worth.
I paid $320 but didn't get my 20% off Arby's voucher. Not going to complain :D
As for the price. Considering MP10 sells for $150 a $175 price tag would only be $25 more than that for all the additional paint, accessories, hardware, articulation etc.
I'd rather have paid $175, believe me and I do think $450 is crazy but I'd say a good price would be more around $250 than $175. $100 more than MP-10
mcart Same. I had to look up the price I paid for my Takara ($180) and Hasbro ($160) MP-10’s. So I don’t think MP-44 can possibly be $150-$175. MP-36 is $240, and BW Megatron was $320. FansToys Dinobots are $200 and have no accessories. So I think $350 is completely within reason.
Id say at most this guy should have been $250-300.
Great figure, but just too much for what it is. Feels almost like a 3p price to me.
I’d say he’s well worth the price. After breaking him down, it’s easy to see the marvels of engineering. At roughly 459 individual parts, that comes out to a dollar a part. Plus thos factory workers have to be trained to put the thing together. I’m glad I bought two.
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@@user-id8xv3kw8t your breakdowns are legendary mate! Not had the time to check this latest one out yet but I will track it down. Oh yes!
mcart Yes sir. That breakdown took me a couple hours. Of course, at the end of the day, it's all about what that person values Prime at. Like I've said in the forums, I'd hate to be in a factory putting him together day in and day out.
Next breakdown will be Bumblebee when he releases.
Fancy seeing you here by the way.
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Final thoughts; You Do recommend this product but you cannot Justify the price tag.
I completely agree.
I'm a huge Optimus Prime shill so I got this figure despite the price, I went from "happy sticking with MP-10" to "I need MP-44 as the months went on. I might even pick up OP Leader someday
That hunchback makes this a complete no-deal.
Thanks for reviewing this! I’ve been looking forward to this review for quite a while! You could say... I would’ve waited an eternity for this.
DAMNIT Bubbeh.! Just when I was about fall asleep. This should be interesting.
EDIT: The funny part to me is Bubbeh had to transform it to Vehicle mode to ship it back to the owner lol.
I been waiting for this review,it's a beautiful piece,not to sound cheap but I can't do the price for this,I'm still good with the M.P 10,thanks for the review.
I think the reason that MP44 looks better than MS is because of three things. 1. Shape of the parts are tapered on MP44 vs blocks on Magic Square. This is much more toon accurate. 2. The overall proportions are more accurate. 3. The figure is fully painted.
Ton achieve these three things increases the cost exponentially. Look at MP44 in truck vs bot mode. There are barely any parts that are visible in one mode to the other. This increases the parts counts dramatically. This has to happen because you can’t put together tapered parts cleanly, so the figure needs to invert itself. The engineering is quite amazing.
So in regards to cost, I understand why this cost so much. However, maybe that’s not what the consumer is looking for.
I have many official MPs, and I would much rather spend money on the official product, but this is just asking too much. If I paid $450 for it, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it as part of my collection, it would always have a stigma attached to it. I would just look at it sitting there in my display case mocking me, like hearing a heartbeat under the floorboards.
I might consider buying a KO of this at some point. The guilt I would feel from spending $450 on a somewhat unneccessary prime is much greater than the guilt I would feel from buying a KO.
Patience and wait for the reissue, or if something more interesting shows up before that. Otherwise you will be buying an expensive displaypiece that has too many acceptable flaws for that price range
Nice reference 😂
This is the first honest review of this figure I’ve seen (I’ve watched a lot of these and can’t get over the insanely complicated transformation and price point). So thank you for actually having an honest opinion & speaking the truth. It’s refreshing.
If you break the antenna on the “NEVER!” Head then it will look even better!
Yeah!!!!! 😄
Ok, got my coffee. Time to settle in on the review I was waiting for.
I'm glad that in spite of knowing, that you're going to ruffle some feathers, that you still keep your reviews, honest, real and are not afraid to share your opinion, even though so many seem to not be able to handle it. Great review man and although long, for what this is and all that comes with it, was necessary to give this figure accurate and thorough coverage.
Appreciate you keeping the same energy on cost. Despite admitting its the best Prime, hats off to you for your non recommendation. Takara definitely keeps their hands in fans' pockets.
Definitely origami Prime. It so hard to compare to the venerable Mp10 which has been our standard for so long it's ingrained as "our Prime".
Nice review. I've always liked the bulkiness of Magic Squares's Prime. I agree Takara's the best out there but I'm satisfied with MS01. All the Primes have their flaws but for the price, this guy should be almost PERFECT. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
37:55 isn't the display stand the thing from the repair bay? You can take out that top portion and it will have a notch to put Optimus on to do a flying pose with that jet pack.
lanoche Yes I belive you are right. I think I have seen that in some promotional pictures
#Justice4DisplayStand #Justice4CookieMonster
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Okay I have to ask. What with everyone and Cookie Monster lately?
@@Pika817 Haslab tried to crowdfund a 1:1 scale cookie monster and it failed.
lanoche
Oh no. I heard about the crowdfund after it was over but didn’t know the result. I would have totally bought two of those.
They need to advertise this stuff better!!!
I agree, so glad i didnt buy him. He is super poseable, but to make that happen i feel he lacks in the looks department, his back is a mess, his shoulders are messy. Not worth 450 to me, i rather buy terminus giganticus for that money
The clear adapter is for the Dinobot stand . You can also use the armature from the repair drone as another stand .
Thanks very much for this review Bobby, and yes, it is not worth $450, that is why I am going for the TE with the g1 style head.
You forgot the first step of the transformation sequence. Pour yourself a shot and buckle up.
It's an amazing figure and piece of toy-engineering, but what drew me to the Masterpiece line was the realistic/licenced alt-forms and the robot forms with just enough detail to make it believable while still being show-accurate and this 'toy' is really leaning against those borders.
And that price, whoo! And I was waiting for MP-10 to drop below 100, because I want to actually play with my Transformers without fear of breaking a small fortune. At MP-44's price I expected a 18 karat gold matrix and an MP Elita-One, not an over-engineered and undersized MP-01 with a big gray box.
People have probably already said this, but I'm too lazy to scroll through the comments. The reason the truck mode was so mangled in the front, and didn't stay together the best, is because the hands were improperly oriented. In truck mode you want the back of the hand in it's entirety to be visible with the side pealed off
interesting final thoughts and great review, you presented this figure really well
Great review. I always appreciate honesty.
I knew Bobby’s verdict the fact that he got a loner. Price tag is a precedent I’m not willing to support. It also influences 3rd party to raise their prices (which they are)
Finally! Great review sir. I hope your day gets better. 🙏
Thanks Bobby S for the in-depth review!
Well done on understanding perpendicular and parallel. You’re probably the only person who gets that right. Fair objective review
Nice review, hope your day gets better!
Wait, there was an Arby's coupon that I missed?
As a portly, nerdy gentleman, I would love to transform him while eating a beef and cheddar sandwich. The yellow cheddar sauce and red catalina sauce that he would be covered in would compliment his already beautiful color palette.
Well, off to Arby's I go.....
Everything you pointed out, the pros and cons....spot on! And your final thoughts on that price tag, yuuuuup (Y) Great review! Cheers.
Never been this excited for a Skullface video before
Thank you!! I didn't know about the ab-crunch that connects to the whole lower hip! I thought we had to disconnect it from the front! My man!! Keep up the great work!
Great review as always. I feel just like you do except I do not feel like he is the best prime out there. I still like MP-10 as my prime. The nice thing about MP-10 is that he is a nope e combo of toon and toy and...he transforms much like the cartoon transformation. You could do stop motion transformation of MP-10 and almost mimic G1 cartoon transformation. MP-44 looks nothing like this. I also feel like new prime looks scrawny next to Megatron 2.0, with MP-10 looking a better strength match. New does have better articulation but overall not worth the upgrade to me.
Then as Bobby says...you win!
Hey I've been ur sub for quite a while and have enjoyed all ur reviews, esp the inserted scene with ur family XD. btw the blue pod can be detached from the black tower and it actually becomes a stand that attaches to the groove on his back, but the instructions left it out, only the box art at the back shows it. So now he can be displayed with his jetpack on. Keep up the reviews and the Sit down Sat!
He makes MP Megatron's transformation look like a walk in the park.
I finally transformed him! Your vid helped out massively...thanks!
People will probably hate you now with saying he trashes the TE. Can’t wait for the salt.
Edit: I like all 3 by the way but the defense force is ridiculous.
Really nice review overall though. The one I waited for the most.
Mp 44 is a better figure but not worth the price
Gabriele Traini I’m definitely with you on the price! Still want to get him someday.
@@gabrieletraini3849 When people say it's not worth the price, like Skullface said, it is subjective. I don't think a watch should be cost 5K, and yet those exist. It's an expensive piece without a doubt, but it is by far also the best looking version of Prime on the market. Worth is in the eye of the beholder.
@@RBrown803 watches and action figure are not the same, they have completely different consumer Base. People who buy 5k watch are in a position where 5k isn't a big deal, it's quite average for high end watch. Mp 44 is expensive even for mp collectors. And yes worth is in the eye of the beholder, and to most eyes it's expensive, if the price is reasonable to you then more power to you, but to the general fan Base, it's an uncalled price increase that promotes people to go out of their way to buy the ko
@@atlas6538 Regardless of your approach to the consumer base, I think Takara is trying to move the MP line from a toyline to that of a Hot Toys/SoC type. Those that aren't willing to look accept that change or going to be left behind unfortunately. Do they have work to do to get to that level, yes. Will they keep charging this much to make the "best" possible version of a character, yes. KO or not, if people keep buying it, they'll keep making it.
I was hesitant about getting MP-10, and then didn't bother when I heard about MP-44. Glad that I waited. One of my favourites in my collection.
great review thanks for ur input
Agree on 175 too. The best yet for the price im sticking to TE01. Great comprehensive review
Takara: EXECUTE ORDER MP-44!
DEM DEES NUUUTS. & now I wait for the KO(s) to come out with the fixes & extras. thank u for putting this one out
Great review once again. The paint and engineering looks pretty great (though that seems to ask for more consistent QC than they have seemingly been willing to spend, as knee issues, and some out of the box paint issues testify), he's poses great, and the accessoires are mostly very well done, and quite extensive. Though the end result is looking quite panel heavy for my liking, the transformation is quite clever here and there and less of a struggle than I expected. If that's what I'd want, yes, it would be a lot of money, but will probably might make quite a few people very happy to have. For me personally, the result is a lot of effort for something that seems different from what I want.
Great review as always. I’m curious though why the Transform Element isn’t higher on your list though. It has the same aesthetic in many ways as MP-44 with the presence of the magic square. Plus the alt mode is the best of the lot for cartoon accuracy (IMO). Granted, I didn’t like the TE at first either, but now that it has that new head it’s just outstanding. Give it a second look if you haven’t with the new head yet.
agreed. its also built really well and is nice and heavy. very well done figure.
🐸 very honest review Bobby I really enjoyed it . 👍
"...and now the trailer can take off." that's so funny to me. haha
Great review Bobby
Great review. It's nice that there are a few Primes to pick from. TE-01 looks great on my shelf, almost as cartoon accurate and good build quality for a nice price. Personally, I can't get past 44's panels and gaps but maybe that's the trade of for superior articulation.
Respect your view Bobby, but in my opinion TE01 with the new head is the best looking prime G1 representation of prime. And that is without bringing price into it.
Can't believe people still complain after all this detail and accuracy. That's mankind for you. Never satisfied
Next to MS-01, MP-44 looks like he's constantly sucking in his belly for the photo to look like he's really in shape.
Here's the thing...options options options, everyone to their own taste and budget. There is no wrong answer, just the answer that is for you. Even if I don't care for a certain aesthetic, I can appreciate the time spent in the production of a product and ones happiness with their purchase of said product. There are way too many stresses in life and reliving and enjoying ones childhood shouldn't be one of them, marred by people who can't appreciate anything. So transform and roll out into the sunset with whichever Optimus Prime you have.
This review reinforces my opinion that I made the right choice getting the Magic Square Optimus. Still the best Prime on the market, in my opinion.
Have a better day today, Skully!
Hey, quick question, since you know about transformers. I am thinking about getting the mp36+ but am scared of the chrome fading and wearing out over time. I dont plan on opening mine, so do you think it will hold up over the years? Thanks
Wait, there was a 20% coupon for Arby's? DAMNIT!
For the most important character in the franchise? I had to splurge. It's gorgeous and fun to pose. Any other character, no way. And not at the $400+ point - $300 was my "no more" point before I knew the price, but I couldn't pass for another $25.
My question is, do you approve of the over complicate transformation? Could they have done better?
SRM Maximus
I think the transformation is so complicated because of their goal of toon accuracy. The amount of detail that went into required a crazy complex transformation.
This is the definitive optimus prime no doubt its perfect...
Takara SEEKERS V3! U blew my mind!
Yeesh, that transformation… at this point I'm considering just having a non-transformable robot and a really cool truck to display together.
TE-01 for me for alt and robot mode but I’ll wait for FT to do their version until then MP10 is fine
FT probably won't do a prime now that MP44 is out.
William FansToys have said that their plan is release an entire G1 based collection. You’re right that it’s unlikely it will be right now due to MP44 but look at the past they were going to release a Soundwave and Hotrod but backed off when HasTak announced the MPs and they have now released Hoodlum and have announced Soundwave. Their Prime will likely
not be for a while but it will come eventually
Thanks as always. Love the review(s), love my MP44. Might have it buried with me when my number’s up.
"Bought'n". I've said that before too! 😂
I appreciate your view. I spent the money on it because when I seen it first in hand I had to have it. Fortunately I can afford it and it is worth it to me, but I understand why it would not be to another collector especially when funds may be tighter! Awesome fair review! FYI I want you to know I look forward to sit down Saturday every week! I appreciate al of your insight!
Thank you, great video as always.
For me if money is not an issue, I would've bought it.
Thanks for the review! really enjoyed it. I have MS, MP10 and TE, I think I'm OK for MP Primes for now. Unless it comes out without accessories and seriously cheaper that is, then I may be convinced. :)
Great review Bobby! I do like this figure, best Prime to date, but Takara needs to drop the price, i am not spending 400-450 on this.
Thanks for your thorough view as always, I definitely agree this is the Definitive toon mp prime, but I think for my money I will go with Magic Square thanks.
So I want to talk about the upcoming Menasors...is it safe to say that all 3 3rd party versions are going to have parts forming arms that are 2 pieces per arm? Not seeing how X transbots(since they're the only ones with the arm bots out) split in two to form the arms? What do you think??
Hey, it's a give and take. I enjoy the extras and the fact that you can actually put spike and co inside the cab, however outside of how cleaned he looks in bot mode. It looks like hell getting him there, and it looks like he doesn't stay pegged in vehicle mode. And for $400 plus that should not be an issue
I totally agree with you Bobby Skullface I think he's beautiful but nowhere near worth the price tag they are asking for AMAZING REVIEW AS ALWAYS KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK
I know you are going to get a shiz ton of comments about the stand but I agree with you completely. They added the part for the Dinobot stand but no stand.... Beast Wars Meatron same thing... at these prices they should include the stand. I mean it even looks like they where built to be added together. Anyways.... I couldn't agree more with this review and your final opinions. Its beautiful but not 600+ beautiful... that's the price north of the boarder. I hope your day got better and thanks for taking the time to put this out.
Actually, from what I've found, you can use the arm that's holding the turret as a display stand.
8:57 "Ion Blaster" that is. :)
I went TE for prime this fig is amazing but I’m playing the catch up game so that price gets me at least 4 key players but great review. You still have shirts, I didn’t see a link for any?
Can't wait to have my first Optimus Prime Masterpiece.👍
I agree with you 100%. That price point is the turn off. But on the same hand, it's the best Prime out there.
Totally agree with you there, i truly love the alt mode and i adore the bot mode, but to me Prime has been done out the wazoo too many times for me to really care for something that costs this much. That transformation to me is not using the animation model transformation scheme and i dont think thats something i would like to sacrifice, and as a collector i dont think that the transformation should feel like a chore.
Megatron gets a pass cause his alt mode is kinda useless alone and that he always flew when needing transport, so him being panely thats just something i wont see often. Thats why i got myself a P38 airgun and painted it as Megatron if i ever wanted to shoot something
Easily one of your best reviews to date!
My breakdown of the value for me and me alone.
Figure alone(with gun, axe and matrix) but no other accessories and no voice clips) = $225.
Trailer(including anti aircraft gun) = $25
Roller = $15
Mini figs = $15
Other accessories = $75
Sound Clips = $50
Total value = $405
Maybe I missed it, but what did you think of the transformation? Was it too much?
Thanks Brother Bobby Skullface. As expected, a detailed and brilliant review of a decent figure/set that maybe I won't be getting heh heh. I learned so much more from this than other vids I've seen on this. I was almost gonna, then I realised something. I've been bugging out about not having a decent Scorponok then it hit me, Maketoys Pandinus is in the same price range right? If you like it hey, for me? Hmmm 🤔 Peace *THRoWiN uP Da PeaCe SiGN!*
I like it some more adjustments can be made. Wait for version 4.
If you pull the turret off of the blue base part, that ratcheted armature can act as a flight stand. So technically it does in fact come with a display base
wait , there is a display stand
Not a GOOD one.
As soon as you showed mp-44 with magic square and then Megatron and said mp-44 is more mature in terms of proportions, a better thing, that it’s more sophisticated, that it’s the best Optimus prime on the market bar none, however you prefer the chunkiness of the magic square, I said to myself even though I’ve watched like 4-6 other reviews- that’s why I wanna see your review. Thanks for your no holds barred opinion and a great review. Damn that magic square does look beefy and heroic, at least I have a good starscream head for my maketoys meteor 😜
Solid review. It's beautiful and impressive, but absolutely not worth the price tag.
I am more hyped for the ko to come out
Hell, I'm just waiting for someone to KO the jetpack, lol.
Agree 100% I definitely would have purchased this for $175-200. Until that changes, I'll be fine with MP10 or pickup a used or on sale TE-01.
Man, I really need to think this thru now. I literally have until TFCon to make up my mind! This is the first time, being in this fandom, that I've had to actually rethink this purchase. Dammit, LOL! Nonetheless, this was a great review Bobby!
jetpack also fits on MP Sideswipe as an added feature and the crane when split can be used a flight stand for optimus
just want someone to either KO the jetpack or TT to sell it seperate.
Can i just get the trailer and accessories?
AJ Hill Sure message me we can work something out.
I complete agree with it not being worth $450. A Takara masterpiece at this price should be absolutely flawless, and this one has quite a few cartoon inaccuracies. Unfortunately, you have some followers on here that think the price tag is something to brag about and just goes to show that they are not real TF fans, at all.
However, as far as Te-01 and MP-44, TE-01 is the more cartoon accurate of the two. If thats all you're going to be concerned about, then TE is the right choice. The backpack of TE is far more cartoon accurate. Yes Prime has a bit a of backpack, but all you have to do is go back and watch any episode and you will see that even with the transformation, TE was able to practically copy the cartoon version perfectly both in size and style and design. The feet of MP-44 look as though he is standing on his toes at all times or that he is in heels. Cartoon Prime's feet go all the way to the ground, all the way around like big rectangle blocks. All of the panel gaps in the legs as well as too much red showing in the legs is a big mistake and is not up to par with the price tag. TE does not have any of these issues with the legs. The only thing keeping it from being 100% cartoon accurate in the legs would the slider pin seen on the sides.
The matrix chamber in TE is so accurate that it looks like it was pulled straight from Prime's death scene from the 86 movie. MP-44's matrix chamber makes a good attempt but falls short and looks like a Dollar General knock off. This is unacceptable of a $450 Takara masterpiece.
The only inaccuracies that I can see with TE-01 that keeps it from being the perfect Optimus Prime masterpiece figure, is that the grill in truck mode is split into 3 sections when the cartoon version just has two with a divide right down the center. MP-44 is the first masterpiece Prime that I have seen that does this successfully. The next issue with TE-01 is that its missing Prime's "blue thong" in the back, Instead you just get the truck mode bumper. MP-44 also does this successfully. And lastly, MP-44 does another thing that previous versions as well as TE-01 missed, the yellow indicator lights in the bumper in truck mode. The cartoon version of Prime has these two little triangle yellow indicator lights on the bumper under the headlights. No other figure has been able to match this.
With that being said, MP-44 does hit some small points that TE-01 does not as far as just the aesthetics of a cartoon accurate Optimus Prime, these points do not help it surpass TE-01 as the more cartoon accurate of the two. The robot mode as well as the truck mode just screams G1 cartoon Optimus Prime whereas MP-44 is close, but not close enough. And thats even before you consider the price tag difference. I do not care if its official or a KO or a 3rd party. My collection goes solely for aesthetics of cartoon accuracy. That is just my preference.
Man wish mine came in looking as good as this one. Paint was chipped heavily out of the box, chrome was flaking on the chest and bumper, both the knees were non functional out of the box, the voice box wasn’t wired properly so it didn’t work at all with fresh batteries, and it even had large pieces of the skirt armor broken off. And this looks like they broke in factory because they’re painted over. I agree with you on the point that this is the best looking Prime out there, but the fact that myself and a large portion of others have had so many issues shows me that the quality isn’t there. And quite honestly, given the numerous and widespread issues that this release has had, I’m considering canceling all my Takara preorders and just going 3rd party. I got rid of my MP-44 and will be purchasing MS’s Prime. He has his issues, but at least the quality control appears to be better than Takara. I just don’t feel that I should have to play Russian Roulette with these official figures while paying an overinflated price point.
I really like the production value of your reviews, and the attention you pay to the different aspects of the figure. I recommend you use some of your production money on a manicure, especially since your fingers are the secondary characters to the toys in the review
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