Transform Element OP Leader VS Magic Square Light Of Freedom (Sit Down Saturday)
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This is a comparison of Transform Element OP Leader against Magic Square Light Of Freedom, the latest 3rd Party Masterpiece scaled Optimus Prime offerings for Sit Down Saturday. Round 1... FIGHT
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It’s so hard to choose honestly. They both look great for different reasons. I saw this comment somewhere else, but it seems magic square is replacing MP10 whereas TE is competing with MP44.
Yeah, i'm finding that out. I would love to just say screw it and get MP-44, or try to find an MP-10 that isn't stupidly overpriced. Sadly I think it's going to come down to one of these guys. I think over all I like Transform Element with the only things I wish he had was the bulkier lower legs of the Magic Square and I wish the feet weren't on the side but rather the middle like it should be, the good thing is I could get the second head which is better for Transform Element with the second release. For the Magic Square, one of the few things I wish was that he didn't have the "baseball cap bill" looking thing on his head. I do prefer the colors of the Magic Square though. The Transform Element looks more toyish while the Magic Square looks better. Tough choice, kind of leaning to Transform Element based solely on the facts that I really wish Mp-44 was cheaper so I could pick him up and also because I honestly think this one might be easier to get a hold of. The Magic Element is kind of falling in to the Mp-10 realm where it's either harder to find than I would like, I'm not sure if it's a crappy bootleg instead of the proper figure, or some jerk is charging too much.
@@joeydahl9594 Why not get a Wei Jiang MPP10? It's an excellent figure, and considerably more affordable than getting the official release. Much bigger too and the way they made his lower legs that little bit longer than MP10's eliminates the monkey arm issue the original had. Really good quality figure; probably even better quality than the original.
I got two of them on eBay. One to mess around with and the other theoretically for display but he's still languishing in his box😃
@@gmon78 I might consider it. Right now I got plenty else to think about though so either MP10 or Wei Jang MPP10 will have to wait.
@@joeydahl9594 you actually get an alternate helmet piece for Magic Square that will fix your problem with the baseball cap.
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I really like the movie accurate matrix chamber on the Transform Element Prime. That was a nice touch.
Me too. The best one yet.
you were so close to making a The Touch joke and you didn’t. how dare you
I think MS found a good middle ground between being cartoon accurate and looking like a Masterpiece figure
Magic Square can get more than 90* at the elbow.
Yeah, you missed the double elbow. I mean, it's almost as ugly as the knee, but it IS there.
He actually mentioned it in his review on the MS, which made me realize the double joint in the first place
Wow! That was so much more in depth of a review than I expected. Thanks Bobby Skullface. Good job.
If the transform element had an ab crunch it would be no competition to me, but I do love my articulation.
Ditto
The second release of the Transform Element comes with a second optional head that is much more G1 looking, actually looks similar to the MP-44 head.
I loved how you imitated bane 😊
TE Optimus: the undernourished guy who wants to show you his pog collection.
MS Optimus: the bodybuilder guy who wants to crush his enemies (and not hear the lamentations of the humans).
I found it very interesting that the kids like the TE version which is more cartoon accurate and the adults like the MS version which I also like because it's a little more stylized. I like these videos. I think you do a pretty good job of being objective and showing where one loses points vs giving it the point because you like it better. I'd like to see a cyclonus vs vid xtransbots vs fanstoys, Bad cube vs takara lambos, unique toys vs zeta toys bruticus. Thanks for the videos
The kid's like the TE because kids are like magpies, especially girls :oD True story.
@@chojinacd Kids are also naturally more honest in their opinions than adults are. Also your magpie and girl reference made zero sense in the context of this video and their choices.
I just got my Magic Square Prime this afternoon. I love him. I really enjoyed this edition. Thanks for doing this, it may go far to help out those that are undecided.
What sells me on Magic Square is the Leg Sculpt. I like my MP figures to be a good blend between G1 toy version and toon version.
I think it’s also worth noting that while MS-01 has a thigh swivel, the leg articulation is better on TE-01. MS-01 cannot bring the legs 90° forward although, I do prefer the leg ratchets on it. Also, MS-01 has waist articulation due to the hinge system but, I feel it’s only due to being necessary for the transformation and it breaks up the sculpt. I love both, I own copies of both but, I prefer TE over MS. I honestly don’t think you can go wrong with either figure. Pick them both up, if you can.
Mannn!! Your comparisons are absolutely Insane!!..had to watch this a few times just to get all the info. Absolutely phenomenal video! 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thanks for the amount of time you put into your Sit Down Saturdays. Your break down on these Primes are pretty much in line with how I’ve viewed both releases. What surprised me, though, is that I’m even more excited for the Takara v3 after watching. The muted finishes and lack of paint on both leave me wanting more. Thanks again for the deep dive.
Great and detailed comparison! I like the family interviews a lot as well (I believe in another video you asked some questions to your father, which I really enjoyed). As you said is not prescriptive but it makes you take into account aspects that I may not see due to my own preference, so I appreciate the effort and time you invested on this video. Thanks a lot!
Magic Square's elbows are double jointed and get you better than 90 degrees of bend.
Enjoyed this video so much!! Thanks Bobby!
I just got the TE 1 With the new head I'm very happy with my choice
Me too
Thanks for really getting into this. The hard part is that these guys are so evenly matched. Only thing I know for sure is that MP-10 is going into truck mode for the rest of it's existence.
the way the transform element faceplate curves up into the brim of the helmet, reminds me a lot of RiD 01
Claims he's judging them based on an unbiased opinion, but continues to give MS the points based on his personal preferences... alright then.
An unbiased opinion is still an opinion nonetheless which by definition comes his personal preferences. The “unbiased” part means be is sponsored by neither MS or TE and that he won’t benefit by putting one above the other. Because when it comes to an objectively standpoint, both are so close that the only thing that‘s really the deciding factor is your own subjectivity and what you prefer in an optimus figure.
I still like the TE-01 better. The other one is just too beefy for me. And te I feel fits more with mp36 because of the style of hands and bottom legs
You chose MS.
You're kids chose TE.
You're wife split. Look to MS, feel to TE.
Personally I'm split. For everything I like better on TE, there's something else I like better on MS.
Based on multiple reviews, comments on those reviews, and forum posts I feel like the community is split between cartoon accurate VS. 90% accuracy w/a mature look.
I'm sticking with MP-10 until something scratches all my itches.
I'd like to see what Fans Toys can do.
Jason Chastain imo MP10 looks so crap against these two
I think TE wins for toon accuracy, and MP-10 still takes it on sophisticated look. I still prefer the toon/sophistication balance approach to MP, so I'm staying with MP-10. I might go for that electroplated version, if anything.
@@texasbeast239 I still love how Mp-10 looks. Gorilla arms and all. Part of me still wishes we get an upgraded version of MP-10 in terms of articulation
Great comparison, and great episode as ever.
I appreciate you for making this video
3rd party 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Now give me Astro train !!!!!!
Um...DX-9 made one? Like 3 years ago....th-cam.com/video/9o6PWjpZ15Y/w-d-xo.html
@@kennythetrend3688 ..and it's kinda crap compared to 3rd party stuff these days in terms of quality and toon accuracy. I'd agree with @Sour Pixels, we need a good Astro Train.
Kenny The Trend
I know .
It’s not that good
@@kennythetrend3688 I own and am good with DX9 Astrotrain
DUDE THOMAS WAS JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED YEET
I would like to have heard the mention that Transform Element hides the waist parts in alt mode versus mp10 and magic square leaving it out. Awesome comparison as always.
Can we celebrate the fact that we finally have a masterpiece-style Optimus Prime that doesn't cheat with a fake grill?
No.
No.
Oh i would have waited an eternity for this
It's over Prime.
Very good comparisons thanks bro.
Thanks man. GREAT review and just what I needed.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for coming through on this my g
16:56 This hits me right in those parental feels. Nobody else does that.
Thank you for making it easy to identify the bots throughout the video (labeling and consistently keeping them on the same sides) and not simply calling them by the brand name. It's one of my pet peeves with comparison reviews (specifically thinking of a few of the 3P Omega Supreme comparison videos I saw) where they aren't clearly labeled and the reviewer will simply call them out by name without as much as a point to which one they're referencing. Then, you get halfway through the video and can't remember which bot was which. Thanks again.
I think the takeaway here is that they're both pretty fantastic and you can't really go wrong, so just pick whichever one you think looks best (or both, which I plan to do, just because).
so when you focus on individual sections I like the magic square..but when I look as the figure as a whole I prefer transform element...weird
A up mate what version are your Dinobots in the back ground if you don’t mind me asking? Thanks!
Thank you for doing this video
thanks for a straightforward comparison. Helped
I had bought the Magic Square first but it wasn't toon enough for me so I decided to buy this one and I have to say I like it much more than Magic Square. You have to see both figures in person to really see how nice the TE version is. TE has better toon proportions and some real nice heft to him. Both are nice but I kept the TE version.
Bobby, can you do an updated versus of the MS01X+ and TE-01 Cell shaded?
Cool comparison! Loving these type of videos, Keep it up !! I'm not getting any of them but if i was , i would go for the TE. I like the slim look , one of the reasons im swaping out my MP10 over V3..
Lmao!!! Beautiful and definitely an informative video review on these third party figures!! Thank you for this review bruh… keep pushing thru and God bless
Thanks for the review. I just picked this up on eBay. Although I will keep him in Bot Mode, TE-01 has the best Truck/Cab mode. With Magic Square and MP-10 you see his pelvis in Truck mode which ruins the illusion of being a truck while Transform Element nailed it.
Not getting either but a great breakdown of both. What were u going to do instead of this I think I missed that part.
nice review. i just picked up the TE-01 this version i got is there 2.0 version what`s nice about this 2.0 version is the upgraded head sculpt which blows away the v1 sculpt.
This was the video I needed! THANKS!
Seeing them side by side I'm gonna go with MS, even though I like TE silhouette better.
Una comparación muy completa. Muchas gracias.
Just got on this Channel and i gotta say Awesome Video^^
I actually See the MS Prime for the First Time xD
And after Seeing it i actually prefer it a bit more than TE-01
Well i will have to think about it more to decide which one i get.
Definitley will Stick around and watch some of your other Videos^^
Love the comparison videos! I was in for the magic square figure until this vid, where as you said where personal preference matters. I really connected with the transform element. I can’t help the connection I have with a toon accurate representation on display even with MS being better in other categories. Interested to see how MP-44 turns out but I can’t rationalize the cost for that figure.
Just an oddball question… but do any of the 3rd party add on kits (like the BB7 EP02A Enhancement Upgrade kit for TAKARA MP10 Optimus Prime) work on any of these figures? Stupid question… but you never know. I haven’t seen anyone mention it. I just ask because I can see add on kits being made for these guys later down the road.
You missed the double joint on the MS elbow for the full range.
Where is a trusted site to purchase these because I want both???
Thechosenprime.com or toydojo.com or bbts.com
I had the Ms and Te. I have to disagree with Bobby. The TE definitely has the better presence. It’s why both kids and his wife pick it out of the two. TE’s proportions works better in relation to MP36. (Smaller upper body to leg length and width). As far as materials I just keep asking myself if the build was switched meaning if MS had TE’s build would the transformation be a bear? And vice versa. I think if TE used the same plastic all around as MS, its transformation would break the thing in half.
No his wife did not pick Te as the one she liked. She just said it was heavier...
@@robots1 just rewatched the review and we can't even tell which one she pointed to because of the angle.
It's been almost a year since all this uproar, and I'm finally picking one of these guys up. I know I'll never be able to justify MP-44's price tag, and I've only ever had the Walmart release of MP-01 and a YotH MP-10, so it's always felt like I didn't have a "real" MP Prime. After a lot of deliberation, I'm going with the metallic version of Magic Square's offering. Bobby, your videos covering each of these separately and this "VS" video helped me considerably.
Your family picking their favorite is so funny!!!
You are hilarious 😂 nice Bane impression
for the Magic Square, you can extend the shoulders to make them go to full 90 degrees, and it has 2 hinges for the elbow
I'm curious to see how you will view the MP-44 because TE0-1 and MP-44 have MUCH in common
I would love to see more cartoon accurate window pieces. Blue with the white reflection
Matte or high gloss?
@@TripChebook matte
This helped me decide which order to get them in ( as opposed to which to get instead of the other)...Magic Square, THEN Transform Element..on a bit of a note, there have been times where Optimus had the gray stripe in truck mode in the animation ( very rare but in at least one episode that was how he rolled)...I do like the no stripe look of TE ...great job as always.
How exactly heavy are those?
Transform element hands down wins because of the robot and truck modes looking actuate and great.
your wife wears a jedi robe!!
great video, it helped me to make a choice Bobby
Good analyzing both products. I too like MS over TE (slightly), but you cant go wrong with either so I got both.
Bobby I like the way you are approaching reviewing . I think you should possible use Skullface points a scale 1-10 . Paint, Sculpt , Engineering, Astatics, & Media accuracey . Plus the pros and the cons. Good review man!!
Great job on this video. I prefer TE-01 but that is my choice because I like the cartoon look. Keep the good work.
3:55 oh my god I thought I was the only one who thought the mere idea of turning your toys joints 180 was a stupid idea.
Just for the record: nice necklace. I imagine one of your daughter made you wear it. I have a six year old girl and I get stuff like that thrown at me all the time.
Thanks for this! So close to pulling the trigger on the TE but holding out for some news about their updated version.
There is going to be an updated version?
@@kinjapleb4228 I think I heard there might be a v2, but it seems like there is a designer that is making a replacement head that is more like Magic Square's sculpt.
definitely caught the profile pic snuck in around 18:00 ;)
MS if u push the elbows more u get double bend. U should of given it to Ms too. Try it out
Good job Bobby. I like how I knew your preference but didn't see it creep in for the objective issues. This decision was probably the most fence sitting I have ever done before landing on TE. Glad I went that route but really wish to head was the MS one.... and those knee swivels....
I prefer function over form, thank you very much.
The MS version has a super accurate ab crunch because it demonstrates that too much ab crunching will expose Prime's spine LOL
Great review as always. Your thumbs are distracting though lol
if you were to merge both ops together you probably would have the perfect prime :D I went for the magic square version myself as to me it had more personality and charisma than the TE version, but im sure both versions will be the superior to the overly priced MP 44 :D
Cant go wrong with either one, I chose the TE, because it comes with a movie style head.
Both appear to be amazing Nope-timus, but I personally lean more towards Transform Element. I like that the truck cab is all red like the cartoon and that the hands match very closely with MP Megatron. Magic Square looks really cool, but he's a tad too chunky for my liking and the axe is too damn small. I still want the MS mold (maybe when/if a Magnus and/or Nemesis repaint comes out), but for me, TE will be my new Prime
I have the Transform Element. It comes with two different heads, one more season 1 and the other more of a season 2 look. Apparently the spacing between the eyses changed.
Just wish the Transform Element head was a better sculpt? Something just doesn't sit right with me on how it looks and I can't quite put my finger on it
I have both, and both are amazing figures. I like both for their differences.
Dope video Bobby, even better than the last comparison. I'm still undecided on which to get MS seems like the better choice but it's so similar to MP-10, while TE version looks SOOooo cartoon accurate but it's only from the front. I'm not a big fan of chunky Optimus, but I like the ab crunch.....ugh I can't decide
Glad I watched this, I personally prefer the TE-01 by far. And the new ones apparently have the updated head sculpt
I miss my blue underoos! Haha! MS for me all the way! Great and accurate comparison as far as I'm concerned and great video! Thank you for taking the time!
As far as these two primes go, I wish I could bash elements of both into one super figure. Magic Square beefiness and hardware with TE matrix chamber and fuel tanks on the legs.
This is how I feel 9 times out of 10 when we get 2 or more versions of a character.
I preffered the Magic square on sculpt alone but it's nice to see that it also has the better articulation and less cumbersome transformation.
Its gotta be Magic Square for me. The only gripes I have with the figure are the Matrix chamber and his lower legs. If MS had the Matrix chamber and leg engineering so that the rear of the truck wasnt so damn t h i c c, MS would be my perfect Optimus Prime. Even still, MS still takes the cake. I do love TE's tho, especially the 2nd release with the Season 2 accurate head
Your Bane sounded like he said "For you, the peep-hole."
I prefer the body of TE (and small details like the rivets) but I prefer the Magic Square Head sculpt by far. I also love how the TE does the Matrix with the movie accurate “flip up” covering.
Well, like you've said before, it comes down to the face. And I like the face better on Magic Square. But, then again, I'm the one who has to look at my collection every day so there's that too.
I prefer the MS too, would literally never buy the TE at any price, but this video made me realize something. If someone is attempting as objective a measure as possible, intent matters. Like on a cooking show or whatever, where no matter how good the steak is, Sorry Sir But We Asked For A Soufle. And the TE is ABSOLUTELY closer to the cartoon. Of course, that's what I don't like about it, but impossible to not credit objectively. And you're right, a screen cap exists for everything, but if we're real, that TE looks like 90% of what you'll see on screen. So if a collector is looking for an improved/replacement MP10, MS is perfect IMO, but if the goal is a cartoon accurate MP collection, TE nailed it. Anyway, great vid, appreciate the hard work.
The second hinge on the magic square is not redundant. 1 it's in a more natural location then the other, and 2 the two hinges work together and get you the full curl.
After watching your breakdown review on these two 3rd party Optimus Prime. I wonder how MP44 stacks up just by looking at the official product photos?
I wish TE’s Prime was able to take MP-44’s trailer. Since out of MP-44 and 10, I prefer 44’s trailer
I also think MS is similar to Open and Play, encouraging messing around with the figure without worry of paint chipping
I'm getting ms optimus, I just like the way he looks
Cartoon accuracy is questionable in the G1 cartoon. That said, I prefer both cartoon accuracy and playability. That’s what makes me TE-01, but I think we can all agree on this. At least they’re not MP-44.
1:15 was that pattern a secret message?