Peeker's Advantage: How to Corner Peek in VR FPS Games - ThetaVR

[@hu7cho]

I don’t know how much CS:GO you have played. But i think this is a great example of how you are THE warOwl of VR FPS

[@ThetaVR]

Thanks, dude - WarOwl is the man!

[@benjaminjones3961]

Hi hutcho

[@TheLonelyViper]

To be honest I think quick peaking isn't realistic and is more a function of how the games movement speed is too high. I don't think it leads to healthy gameplay in a game like this with players jiggling corners

[@ThetaVR]

I'm not a fan of realism arguments. It's a game that happens to have some realistic elements. But as long as people aren't negating/exploiting the strafing speed limit and the game allows it, people need to know how to survive corner encounters. Slow peeking will get you killed, period.

[@TheLonelyViper]

@@ThetaVR Sure but I think the key is abstraction when it comes to realism. The right answer to clearing corners isnt abusing max movement speed. Its not the players fault you can - but the devs should drop that ms.

[@caseyw216]

Ironic you say that. Sitting here watching this video and admiring how similar the techniques used in this game are to real life. We use quick peaking in real life. For the exact same reason too. We do a quick peak especially when you are entering a door with a long hallway. It’s fun to read people’s different prospective on things. I am new to this game so maybe the “jiggling corners” takes away from it, but I do know we use quick peeking in real life for the same reasons. It’s not ideal but sometimes it’s the only option. Either way thanks for another great video.

[@TheLonelyViper]

@@caseyw216 I feel you man, I think IRL quick peeks are done with leaning right? In the game, theres no wind up to full sprint so seeing someone zip out from corners or hilltops with superhuman speed/accelleration is both unrealistic and unimersive.
We can both agree quick peeking is a thing, but it should be organic and at a speed thats both closer to real life and offers balanced gameplay that carries some risk to doing it.

[@caseyw216]

@@TheLonelyViper oh ya, I was not trying to say one way or the other. I am new to the game. I can’t say I have noticed that yet or not. I am sure it is irritating. I was only marveling at our two different view points. Cause with him talking about quick peeks it had me thinking to myself about the use of similar tactics in real life and I thought that was cool. Then I scroll down and I see that is something you think takes away from the game. It made me chuckle. Either way, no matter what you can’t ever truly simulate something like war. I am amazed at how close this thing is. I feel like I have watched your videos now that I am looking at your tag. Once I post this I am going to check. VTOL with drewski. 😂 that’s my guess. Watch me be wrong. 😂🤣😂🤣

[@jack_kassell]

Another great video Theta. Thanks for all your videos, you might as well be the definitive source for all Onward information at this point. Through using your videos, I've finally joined my first ORB team, so thank you for all the videos and I hope you keep at them!

[@youngboybreezy5358]

A great map to practice this on is “office” found in the workshop. It has multiple rooms as well as a elevator, stairs, and hallways. Also great video!

[@robinmeade7573]

With my luck when I'm "slicing the pie" is when someone comes from some far corner slicing his own pie and nails me with my side to him!

[@mervinace1180]

I feel so sorry for the guy throwing the uncooked frag lol he was sitting there like he was giggling about his plan that failed

[@isaacnewton7612]

Such an impressively useful video on FPSs. First video ive seen by you, but an instant sub. Concise, well researched, practical and easily understandable. Good vid, keep it up!

[@chikidoodle2269]

My dude I have been working real hard on my angles thanks

[@royroblox]

The more I watch Theta videos, the more I realize I have yet to learn. Off to the game it is! Thanks for another great informative video.

[@ThexVeiiNz]

best quality VR fps content out there

[@yuvalsegev9754]

Thank you!

[@IainSimmons]

Great video to follow-up the angles, pre-fire, aggression and others!

[@Jay-kt1vv]

Great video. But now people know about the pie!

[@muthatrucka5161]

Got my gun stock this week finally. Checking angles instinctively now and adjusting to give myself the advantage. Going to practice a lot of peeking tomorrow. Keep making videos. Thanks. MUTHA.

[@reptilemark7346]

Are you still practicing your shoulder peek? 😂

[@Shane-bg3rn]

Hey theta! I think vr esports are the future and I'm currently in the very early stages of prototyping for a tactical, cqb, destruction based vr fps. Do you think that there's room for such style of game in the vr esports scene, and if so, what would you like to see in such a game? Sorry if this is the wrong place, I hope you have a great day, and thanks for the quality videos

[@hu7cho]

The reason we love Onward so much is the gunplay/realism, small TTK and the need for teamwork. If you can make a game that outdoes Onward in these aspects. You will have a successful game.

[@ThetaVR]

Hey Shane, thanks for stopping by. To answer your question: yes, there is for sure room in this world. Onward is the best tactical VR shooter, but the problem is it wasn't designed from the ground up as an esport. There's a big divergence between what vision the devs have for the game (heavily focused on coop/casual players) and the path needed to make it a viable esport.
Some other VR FPS games exist, but they're all weird sort of hybrids between tactical shooters and arcadey CoD clones. If someone were to make a game with the gunplay, low TTK and overall gameplay mechanics of Onward and build it with a focus on esports (quality casting interface, practice modes, etc.) it would dominate.
Onward's devs have dropped the ball in the esports world in many ways because there isn't any real competition. They have a de facto monopoly on tactical shooters with a competitive scene, and someone who filled the holes they've left in their game would be a serious contender.
If you want some testers, I'm sure people in my Discord would be more than happy to help you out. Come join us: invite.gg/ThetaVR.

[@boombalatty2161]

How’s it going now?

[@financialguru28]

7:00 in this situation just keep your gun pointing up and then go shooting stance immediately after you peek

[@shadowbeastgtx9778]

Hey man love the vids keep it up. (You may or may not remember me from discord)

[@SasquatchMasterOfNone]

Great info

[@WitchDoctor87]

When I'm flashed I often try to look dead by just laying down. Sometime people will walk right by you and you just get up and kill them.

[@gibbski]

thanks! this is something ive been struggling.

[@mrjitterylist1621]

Yay

[@ickekoep]

09:00 totally disagree with the corner distance explanation.
The person closer to the corner is moving faster (degrees per second) and therefore more difficult to hit.
Of course that will not make him dominate the angle, but that is also, because he is the "conquerer" and the opponent is already set as the defender.
So either the distance does not matter and it matters who has the corner first/ knows who is watching the angle without being known to him ( suprise effect through peeker's advantage)
or the person closer to the corner will accomplish slipping through the kill angle and gain ground to flank
or the person closer to the corner will accomplish retreating from the kill angle, moving back to cover.
The person further away from the corner is in the disadvantage to accomplish slipping and retreating, so his only advantage is to hold the corner as a defender and surprise his opponent by risking it all, because he cannot retreat or slip the corner.

[@EyesonVR]

See this is great info for people to know this is the good stuff 😀👍

[@brandonlemon2060]

Love your content. All the best channels make no money, I'm glad you don't do it for that :)

[@ThetaVR]

Well, I do have a Patreon and I sell merch sooooo....

[@eclypso7542]

jiggle

[@nicko7520]

cant wait for them to add bhopping

[@vagrant1943]

You're pretty much a super soldier in this game. No normal person could run all the way across the map with an LMG, ammo and body armor then accurately full auto fire while speed walking around a corner.

[@ThetaVR]

You could say the same about the vast majority of video games. I don't personally play games for the realism, but if that's what you're looking for then Onward is not a good choice.

[@vagrant1943]

@@ThetaVR I think this might be a realistic representation of what warfare with powered exoskeletons would look like.

[@andreaholcock8992]

They slowed it down, feels a lot better now

[@chikidoodle2269]

But the tactical reloads with the ejection of the perfectly good round which drives me Kookoo

[@nsombakuZambia]

fr

[@hayesbrumley8724]

Hey Theta! I just joined my first Onward VRML team and I was wondering if you had any tips for me as a new league player.

[@ThetaVR]

Welcome to the league. Don't worry about winning in your first season, focus on getting as many reps in comps as you can and working together with your teammates. Spend more time learning that thinking about your KDRs. Do all that and you'll be fine.

[@jaycunningham3589]

So is there any way for us to @ fog in this video?😂

[@ThetaVR]

His corner peeks are so slow even you can hit him as he comes around.

[@jaycunningham3589]

@@ThetaVR 😐I don’t know what your talking about I’m definitely in my god tier rush peak phase

[@ThetaVR]

@@jaycunningham3589 Alright, that made me laugh so you can have this one.

[@luukbroekhuis5737]

This is such a great game. Would love to see more content comming from you bro! I subbed you.
I Just uploaded a video of my own with tips and tactics!
Cheers dude

[@lebanonchristian3951]

Can you blind shoot around corner in this game ?

[@andreaholcock8992]

Definitely