Affidavit reveals shocking new details about Idaho murders | NewsNation Prime
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- The probable cause affidavit released Thursday laid out in meticulous detail how authorities linked 28-year-old suspect Bryan Kohberger to the Nov. 13 deaths of four University of Idaho students.
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This story is just so sad. So many ruined and wasted lives.
Agreed . Is this just a narcissist trying to see if he can get away with murdering people ? Sickening , I hope he pays with his life if that is the case.
@@exitscreaming4637 Idaho does have the death penalty....
An absolute ruthless rubbish of a killer
So what if Idaho has the death penalty? It’s been 12 years since Idaho has actually executed anyone. Not happening… Life in prison is the maximum punishment…
@@cherylharrison3789NOT when your a serial murderer and the cruel disgusting way he killed them a jury could find him deserving of death especially with how vicious this was. I think he deserves death since it was also planned, this isn’t FL laws r different in other states. I think anyone who kills multiple people deserves to die, why feed him and let him have a life while the family doesn’t get to see their loved one ever again , unless it’s true when we die we meet again which would be a very grief filled misarble depressing gut wrenching wait.
He went back to the crime scene most likely because he realized that he left the sheath behind. He was desperate to find a way to retrieve it, but being already later in the morning, there was probably more traffic and human activity in the area, and he wasn't sure if the victims were already discovered or not. So, he decided to not risk being found in the house by other people or even the police and just left. He must've been terrified by the thought of leaving such a big piece of evidence behind. But sometimes, karma strikes back really fast! RIP bozo!
Ha ha , bozo
I thought the same exact thing. He probably thought the sheath was inside the house. Had he known it was outside, he might have taken a chance to retrieve it. Either way, Karma got him. I hope he confesses and explains why he did this but that’s probably not going to happen. Those poor kids, may they RIP
I think he dont know when be to arrested, that forgoten thing of knife.
@@jillpalmer342 Surprised he didn't drop his wallet. Lol.
Nah that knife sheath was so clean 🧼 he planned to leave it the only dna evidence found was on the button no prints nothing ? He just slipped up and didn’t use a cotton swab inside the button snap . He wanted to toy with police or even lead them towards a marine since the knife was USMC
This crime haunts me to the Bone. All I do is visualize being those girls, being a female myself, and having someone come into your home with a huge freaking knife, and just begging please don't, I just can't believe this happened my heart aches for those families.
Keep a loaded pistol in your night stand. Practice at the range, and rehearse using it at home by dry firing it. Also, cameras and a dog help. Imagine if the first victim shot the killer instead. One person could be dead, instead, and it would be the bad guy.
I knew ethan personally and he was a big guy. It makes me feel like my boyfriend couldn’t protect me so I just took a gun safety course recently.
😢
@@alyssa2796 I think a gun wouldn't help if he overpowered in her sleep.
Your right, and no one should ever have to beg for there life! 😞
This is just such a heinous thing to have happened. There are times when *I* can’t wrap my mind around it so I can’t imagine how their loved ones are feeling.
Same. I try to imagine it but it’s difficult. Our minds won’t let us go there easily,it’s heinous
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yes he deserves the death penalty. capital punishment is a thing for people who do things like this. there is a particular level of indifference to human life, premeditation along with a sadistic and brutal element in which the manner he committed these crimes was cruel and malicious in nature. not to mention the trauma he has caused not only to the families of the victims but his own family. they thought they had an upstanding and promising member of society in their family yet ends up being arrested for quadruple murder. horrible all around for everyone unfortunate enough to be involved.
Heartbreaking 💔 I also feel really bad for Bryan Nothingberger’s parents and sisters.
@@EbonyJ-rt5bb we will see.... who knew what.... if anything... ugly sad.
So horrific to now know that it appears the kids were not sleeping. This case has touched my heart so deeply. All my thoughts are with the parents and families
Maybe father and son did it together.
Hmm. 🤔
Kids? They weren't kids.
@@foulmouthjapanese6316 college kids. Looking back to when I was 20 and i was definitely a kid
Kids they were adults, they would fight for their lives, united against this coward (killer) he wouldn't do sh*t.
These were young adults.
I just can’t get over him coming back that morning after 9am and he knows there is 4 dead bodies in that house and that the cops obviously haven’t been called yet. Makes me wonder if he thought about going back to finish or grab the sheath that he left behind. Just gut wrenching.
Maybe he did got in, remember the front door was opened around 11am?
Then, the footprint is place there I believe?
He didn't find the sheath but probably found the knife....
My thoughts exactly. When I saw early on in the investigation a crime scene photo that had 2 barstools to barricade the sliding glass door, it didn't make any sense..Now, it makes me think it was done by the surviving roommate after she witnessed him exiting through the glass doors. I think when he came back to get the knife sheath he left behind, he realized that, A: someone barricaded the sliding door. And, B: it meant that he didn't kill everyone who happened to be in the house that night. I think he went to some of their big house parties to scope the place out and tampered with the glass door for future access.
Hmm now that you say that I think it was good that DM locked and stayed in her room for that long time.
@@Gonk she still could have at least tried to check up on them via text or call 911 or anyone from her room. Very strange reaction from someone knowing she heard crying and saw a masked man leave through the backdoor.
@@ItsBrinaBree We don't know that she didn't try texting or calling them. Just because it's not in the affidavit doesn't mean it didn't happen. They didn't put all of the info in that affidavit. Just enough to get him arrested.
He retraced his steps because he had no idea where he left that sheath. He probably thought maybe he dropped it outside the perimeter of the house or where he parked. I bet he was outta his mind thinking about where it could be. Because LE never mentioned finding a sheath at the crime scene, he maybe thought he was safe. Bravo to LE for keeping info close to themselves.
That is possible. Maybe he discarded his clothes somewhere on the path home and thought he dropped it.
Most investigators, even crappy ones, keep a lot of the details from the public to guard against crazy people making false confessions, and to know when they have the right guy. It would have been nuts to reveal that fact to the public.
@@allendracabal0819 It would have been pretty dumb. But they did say what kind of knife was used.
@@lebski6033 They can estimate the type of knife from the stab wounds.
@@allendracabal0819 True, but they had the sheath already and knew the type of knife right off the bat. No need to release that info if they were trying to prevent false confessions.
Zanna’s parent’s her mother especially had to have been in so much anguish when she heard that crying was coming from her daughter’s room I don’t know how I would handle something so horrible to hear about her daughter’s last moment’s 😢
I know its heartbreaking, maybe Xana and Ethans family can find some comfort that they were together in the end, the same for Maddy and Kaylee.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I could never ever live with that must feel like they’re living in hell on earth
Xana's mom was in jail for drugs. Selling heroin. So was kaylee's Mom, jail drugs....leaves me wondering...
I agree! That's so heart breaking! My heart goes out to these parents. I hope they can find strength and some kind of peace through this horrific trial.
@@louisewelch5451 wait what are you talking about? Is that true?
I can understand her “ shock”reaction, however I don’t understand why so many hours passed before 911 was called. Perhaps when more information comes out it will make more sense .
Also when she woke the following morning she called her friends before calling the cops, while her roommates laid there dead. That makes absolutely no sense to me.
And the 911 call said they were unconscious. But there was blood everywhere so wtf
Yea it's not making sense
The moment they said someone’s in here, that’s the moment they should’ve dialed 911
They are saying it was the Door Dash guy dropping off Xanas food from Jack in the box
@@mercedesadler9386 who is saying I thought they were into Bryan k
Especially with the supporting sounds and bangs then she straight up SEES a man in black with his face covered that "paralyzed her in fear" then she goes to sleep for 8 hours? Naw man, that shit don't make sense at all. At ALL.
@@jm4236 I know I couldn’t go back to sleep after seeing a strange man with mask and walking out the slide door and all the crying she heard from Xana room
@@jm4236 Bangs? What are you talking about?
Very sad.
Such sick people in this world.
Condolences to the families of the victims, all the victims. I can’t even fathom what you went through then and what you’re going through now. I’d probably never want to sleep again.
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I can’t imagine the parents of these kids what they are going through. So heartbreaking 💔 R.I.P to the victims and condolences to the families 🙏🏽
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@@EbonyJ-rt5bb This is very sad. MY NAME IS JX100.
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Everyone or at least a lot of people are questioning why the roommate took so long to call the cops. We need to wait until we have all the information before judging her- remember how the cops told us both roommates were sleep the whole time??? The cops are protecting the investigation, as they should, and there are so many holes and unanswered questions in the story we now have, I don’t see how the cops are still not withholding a TON of information. We can’t assume anything until we see all the evidence once or if they release it.
Yes, exactly. They didn't make this public until now. So who knows what else we haven't heard ...
The news right now is just recycling the same stuff ... 🙄
She had no idea that the “intruder” has just murdered her 4 roommates, it could also be that when she saw him she thought it was a frat prank, or thought it was someone that one of the roommates knew, and it was just a black “COVID” mask. We won’t know until the trial. That poor girl was severely traumatized and I can’t imagine how she feels 😢
@@barbarakiser5622 She was scared enough to "freeze" so she knew
My prayers for this poor roommate
I think everyone needs to also remember that legally this man is innocent until proven guilty in court of law , by a jury beyond reasonable doubt. A lot of people making comments would be a prosecution dream of a juror
It's scary. How a sick mind can go around undetected and wreak havoc on unsuspecting innocents who have no chance at self defence. I am so sorry for these kids. And their family who will never overcome the trauma of "why? Why? Why?"
That’s why it’s important to teach your kids self defense. The more they know the better. You literally never know when you’ll need it. You can’t be naive anymore. RIP to all those young victims who senselessly lost their lives
@@bobbye4731n this world a healthy amount of paranoia, "keeping an eye out for the mutant", is necessary. Too many people caught with their metaphorical pants around their ankles when the world turns sideways.
Here's the thing. LE has the ability to tell who has predatory personalities and who doesn't. The laws need to change so they can do something about the predatory personalities before any of these tragedies happen.
Apart from all the horrors directly associated with this crime, imagine being the owner of that house! It is so defiled that I couldn’t bear to live in it.
Often, such houses are torn down shortly after the investigation is completed. That will almost certainly happen in this case. I cannot imagine any college students ever wanting to live there in the future. Tear down and rebuild.
@@allendracabal0819 I always wondered what happens in cases like that....
@@allendracabal0819 I hope so, but never say never with a landlord 🙃 the sick part too is that true crime “buffs” have already made it a destination for dark tourism.
True. I have wondered about that as well. I would not want to live in that house.
@@allendracabal0819 what if the owner can't afford it?
With the history of the house having people coming and going at all hours, if I was living in a share house I wouldn’t be tied up in everyone’s personal life and go and knock on their doors or go and investigate each person in the house. She poked her head out a couple of times and maybe assumed Ethan was there so all was well, why would omg they’re being stabbed to death cross her mind. It would be different if she had a direct view of them being stabbed and then locked and hid in her room without calling 911. She probably thought omg what on earth is going on up there I don’t want to be a part of what may have sounded like , someone was there, maddie playing loudly with dog, a strange guy with a mask, it was dark, who said she seen him with a big knife with blood all over him….no one…. Do not judge this poor girl. We will find out soon what the scenario was until then please leave her alone.
100% agree with you. A lot of people commenting are aghast that she waited so long to call anyone as if she knew what he'd done upstairs. She probably locked her door and went to sleep. Hell, if I went to bed at 4.00am I wouldn't be up before noon either.
With it being a party house, it is surprising she was alarmed at all.She would of been used to strangers coming and going in that place.
Exactly what I think too. I tend to mind my own business and my daughter is the same.
Exactly. Most people wouldn’t jump straight to that conclusion.
@@kellykel4472 You called the police a lot during Covid didn't you
This is almost too dark and scary to watch. I'm so devastated for the families. And the other roommates. The trauma is shocking. This is too much pain.
There's still more to the story that we don't know.
you got proof???
why didn't that girl call the police after what she heard and saw...makes no sense you would be terrified and calling the police would be the most normal thing to do ....very odd could of lives been saved had that person called the police very odd
In total agreement and sick of others giving her a pass due to "shock, "horror" blah blah nonsense.
HOW. WAS. HE. NOT. COVERED IN BLOOD?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WASN'T?
He was wearing black so he could have had blood on him and it was noticeably.
They have the car, there will be blood somewhere in it. It's hard to get every crevice, no matter how meticulous it was cleaned.
Wearing all black and in the dark.
@@krystalwirth9646 Exactly.
So sad. My prayers to the family and friends of the victim's.
surviving roommate have no idea how close she was to her demise. if bryan had seen her, she would've been victim #5😱
Totally agree probably didn't want to get involved thinking her friends were just noisy like normal
@Charmaine The affidavit stated that she froze, so she knew something was not right. However, I am in no way blaming her. We never know how we are going to react in certain situations. It just seems odd to me and everyone else that she did not call 911 because that is what we would expect ourselves to do.
Oh, I imagine she knows exactly how close she was!
This has to be traumatizing for her
What did she do for 8 hours and if she couldn't speak and call why didn't she text someone?
This roommate should NOT be scolded or judged based on her actions. She knew something was going on but somebody goes into fight flight OR frozen mode. You can’t say what you would or would not do if you have not been through what this roommate has just been through.
It’s already been concluded there is more information just not in the affidavit. That was just enough needed for it to arrest him
What has she been through at 4 am?
@@asiagrabowska5092 having found an intruder in her house at 4am?
I could see that. Maybe she was afraid of making any noise or calling anybody. Who knows if the guy is still there. But once it got light outside I feel like she would build up the courage. Unless she just fell asleep by then.
A mentally healthy person would have called 911 instead of letting her pals bleed out. Too much booze and weed.
Now that I 👀 see it. Those traffic stops were pure genius 👏 👌. He really didn't want to tell the cop anything and was bothered when his dad told him everything.
I'm getting tired of y'all saying "breaking news" or "new details" when it's the same stuff you have already reported.
The poor girl who saw this man is the icing on the cake for police. Prayers for her.
It will be most interesting as to why he killed 4 and left 2, especially after the one saw him in the hall.....sort of, why not kill her???
I am wondering if Dylan was so stunned & terrified she went into shock after locking her bedroom door when she had seen this guy walk past her, he probably had the knife & was bloody. I would not be surprised to learn that she passed out from shock & didn't wake up till much later. She also didn't know if he had left, she probably was scared he was laying in wait or still there.
Plausible
Why didn't he kill her too? Not saying I'm evil but I would have took everyone out so nobody could be witness.
She could have been drunk or high too, could have felt like she was being paranoid, or questioning what she saw.
Have you ever been so terrified, unable to move, or have a feeling someone will hear you breathe? I have, and my situation did not compare, though it was very frightening to me.
@@anj3595 nope. Im never scared like Bone Crusher.
It’s just hard to believe he killed four people and just walked by a fifth and walked out.
She wasn't a target. I think he was there to kill two specific people, X and M.
I think he was injured that could be why he left when he did.
nothing strange about it,Ted Bundy did similar things, a murder doesn’t have to kill everyone in his way
When i heard the results of the affidavit, my first thought was why the roommate didn't call the police or check on her roommate? There would've been a manhunt by 5am when there aren't many cars on the road
Dylan would have to feel she was in a safe enough space and had access to her working phone to have been able to call. She could not call for help at the time. He may not have noticed her. Staying quiet was the right thing to do. By the time she realized the threat, the crimes had already been committed. She could not have prevented the tragedy.
She survived. She can identify the man. She may have already been heroic in helping the authorities get him arrested. She will be vital in the trial. I hope she gets through "survivor's remorse" by realizing how very much she is helping her friends and their families by being alive!
She's the most important person who can still help them now get Justice. No One should hate on her. She's a victim not a criminal...She needs all our understanding and support!
If that person was a male, you wouldnt call him a victim, a key survivor, you would call him a suspect, an accomplice, a wuss, a heartless twisted roommate, a weirdo, a sicko, a sociopath.
I completely agree
@@hardver8855 Some are calling her a coward. But she isn't. And, No. I would call a man in this situation a victim as well. I do not buy into the "macho man myth." Men are just as vulnerable to fear as women.
It's only cultural myths that says men should take action even when they are shocked, unprepared, even when it may be unwise. The average PERSON has their own innate "fight or flight" immediate reaction.
She has her own reasons why she Couldn't respond. We have no understanding of what they are. She has no reason to feel guilty. Bravery is not a sex-linked trait. Aggression can be triggered by hormones, but that is not bravery.
maybe some were alive for hours... but by noon when someone did decided to call - they were not. and maybe Kohlberger went back to see if he could kill the one that saw him - then decided it was daylight and to not. should have called. can not justify that
@@Feedback4Utoday You can't be 100% positive you could have called can you? We'd all like to think we would have called for help right away, but people can be very disabled when they are in shock. Please don't throw stones. We don't even have all the answers yet.
All those degrees in criminology didn't make him any smarter when it came to planning his own crime.
He aced the theory but the practical proved more difficult. Unlikely he planned a quadruple murder. Unless he saw them all enter the building that night he would not have expected to confront a male. Also he might not have expected two women in one bed. He left his knife sheath behind. That wasn't in the plan either. Probably his first and certainly his last attempt at murder.
I just can't get over the roommate seeing him, hearing people in danger.... then locking herself in her room. Never once calling 911 even when she made sure she was safe.
It's as though she convinced herself something else other than a homicide was taking place: party -goer stealing something, physical altercation, or as she mentions, Kaylee playing with the dog..
Yeah stinks of BULLSHIT..
Apparently she didn’t hear any screaming. People came & went (no pun intended) all the time. It was a high traffic home. She didn’t have cause for alarm. It’s winter during Covid people wore masks.
Chilling.. and so sad for these families. Huge prayers for the families and friends and those survivors!
Brandon. Remember... they can watch you through your phone 📱. Becareful.
#johnnyx100 👈🏼💿
It is quite likely the roommate did not fully grasp what had happened, yet had some level of intuition of the horror, that she was unable to process. So it is not that surprising to me that she might have been in traumatic shock and denial for hours or even days. It's not that much different than playing dead, so the beast does not come back and find you are still there, and breathing I think it is like a total withdrawal, to the point of hoping to disappear. I can understand why a vulnerable young person would react that way. She had no role as a rescuer, and therefore self preservation meant remaining quiet and invisible.
That just doesn’t make any sense! She should call 911 right away if seeing this monster made her freeze.
@@yayahou5608terror response isn’t going to make sense. What she “should” have done instinctively was to protect herself - flight fight or FREEZE. It’s perfectly normal response, especially someone her age and likely relatively naive to direct violence.
Some people freeze in fear. That doesn't make them evil it just makes they weak. I'm sure she regrets her actions and if she could go back she would change what she did.
not to mention that cell phone records show that he returned to the house at 9 am. We don't know if he tried to enter the house again, or if he actually did get inside again to either retrieve the knife or check if there were witnesses to eliminate. She might have heard him in the morning too, hiding in terror for even longer. I am no young girl but would have probably done the same. Also, her phone might have been out of the room and she had no access to it. Perhaps when she finally did unfreeze and come out she saw the horror scene and was the one allegedly fainted. We really don't know. This story terrifies me and I'm not even remotely connected to it personally, imagine being there
Valerie, what if some of these victims were STILL ALIVE and by Dylan not calling 911 immediately, led to their slow deaths and suffering???
Something went very wrong here.
I hope the investigation sheds some light here.
To think they may have been alive and she did nothing is horrific
I feel like this guy did this just to do it and see if he could get away with it. There is def something wrong with him
Ya think?
Lol TH-cam comments provide proof that humanity is getting less intelligent every generation.
@@TruthOverFeelings745 I don't want to believe all the bad press that Gen Z gets....I even read one that said he did it because he wanted to be caught and he wants to die but doesn't have the stomach to harm himself. So he wants the state to end his life.
@@thinkingallowed7042 keep proving my point.
@@allendracabal0819 no need to be snarky about it
I think there is more than 1 person involved.
This whole case just doesn't make sense to me! Just bizarre!
prove it
@@michaeljames4630 Prove my opinion? Are you always this stupid?
Am I the only one confused why the roommate didn’t call 911 and she went back and went to sleep
No, lots of people are confused. And lots of other people are annoyed at the confused people for bringing it up. But there may be much more information that will come out later to clear it up.
I can't help but think if a call was made immediately that maybe some of those kids may have survived with medical care. So very sad.
None of the roommate's story makes sense...
The actions and timeline with the surviving roommates will always be the biggest mystery of the whole thing
No not always. We don't have all of the facts right now. This was just an affidavit to arrest him. The authorities are withholding a lot more evidence because they don't want to play all their cards right now. We also don't have the 911 call or the entire statement from the two roommates. Until we have all of that information I don't think anybody should be making any assumptions. As it's already been proven, nobody was even close to knowing who the suspect was with all the theories that were put out there about hoodie guy and ex-boyfriend and even a professor.
seems to me like the police have an explanation for it - like this captured murderer had a companion that stayed in the house preventing them from getting help. It's a stretch, but a possibility
Literally it's crazy 8 hours is just such a long time to go by I literally thought that I heard and saw someone by my apartment and called the cops because I just didn't feel safe and I just wanted someone to be there to check it out since I was alone and everything was fine but I can't even imagine if she had actually seen someone with a mask in their house and she just didn't call? I'm not trying to victim blame I just can't understand why she didn't call anyone even just out of fear
She saw a guy leave her house that’s all she saw what are you talking about
@@roosterinmyrari4577 Why was she so terrified, as she claimed to be, then? They probably were beyond help, but we’ll never know.
I'm still so curious to know if the killer's dad was helping him out by helping him get out of state with the car - or if he was unaware what his son did and was an unwilling participant.
Pretty sure he was unaware. Going home for Christmas
Dad bought his plane ticket in June to fly out in December
I doubt the dad knew anything. In a drive of that distance, having someone to share the driving is a natural thing to do.
I mean they were going through the dads trash to get dna, he probably saw that and knew
Or was his dad involved ? Just throwing it out there
If it was a male instead of a female who did not
1. call 911
2. or Investigate
3. or call one of the roommates on a cell phone., then
he would not be as forgiven as that female was. He would be called a wuss or worse.
Exactly. If it was a male then for sure he would be:
1. Seen as an obvious accomplice
2. Maybe even charged with assisting in a crime or tampering with a murder scene, evidence
3. He wouldnt be able to explain why he goes to sleep like nothing happened and then call 911 in 12 o clock, why didnt call, investigate,
4. Would be called a sociopath, if they didnt find a link between him and the murderer, they would considered him a sicko, like he realised a crime took place atm, and suddenly he liked that feeling that his rommates are dying so he didnt spoiled it.
5. Would have been called a dumba ss, an idiot, if he forgot, if he was drunk, how could he, all town would be spitting on him.
@@hardver8855 Wait until the Wokes (and Wokets) see our posts!
I think that he saw her, but thought that she had called the police, so he got out as fast as he could.
That's what makes sense to me.
He was probably tired AF from going at it with the previous 4.
It’s strange he was just walking past the door though, you’d be think he’d be getting out of there as fast as possible. I don’t think he saw her in the darkness
He could have been like a lot of Bank robbers, and had a time limit to get in and out. He actually was pretty fast at it.
@@michaelknight4099I’ve heard from sources thst one victim was stabbed over 40 times and thst the male was sliced from his groin area down past his knees
@@chasedribben6833 holy shit if true
She could of said nothing and had ear plugs in and fell asleep. The fact she came forward and both surviving roommates were cleared. I don't know how she felt or what was going on in her mind. Both girls will live with this for the rest of their lives.
it’s be horrifying seeing all your dead friends there and seeing the killer walk past you
I don't understand why they had such an open door policy to begin with because that's probably why the roommate couldn't really discern that this situation was this colossal. There were constant sounds all the time & to add to that, the house has wooden floors. A "thud" isn't enough to raise alarm nor is a weird guy walking around. I'm sure she had felt uncomfortable being around other weird guys at that house before but no one ever got hurt.
Yes that’s what I thought too! With hindsight seems clear that she should have checked / called 911 but she may have not understood what was going on.
Having lived at a similar share house environment, I can imagine 100 different scenarios about what was going through her head … maybe she thought someone got too drunk and was being sick…maybe she thought it was Ethan saying “he’d help”… that one of the girls invited the guy over that just walked past… that’s a bit weird but I don’t want to interrupt anything so I’ll just get the goss in the morning. Especially if there wasn’t the amount of noise that one would expect from an attack because the victims were sleeping. College share houses can be live, noisy places.
@@rachelmesst2006 This is all the way true. People were intoxicated so it probably always got wild in strange ways. People think just because she opened her door she knew there was a murderous situation going on & yet she might've thought the couple was arguing but it eventually went quiet & as you said, the "weird guy" could've just come back from the club with someone in the house. It's not simple at all, from all angles.
i believe there were no screams, only feint cry... which makes me believe the killer(s) had something put on their mouths when they killed them hence why there were no deathscreams that would alarm the whole neighbourhoud.
Can u talk about the case without showing his picture? I really need close my eyes when his face apears . He likes to be seen , don’t show his face anymore
All of you in the comments defending this roommate be careful now she could have been involved in the murders, All I know is that if I saw a strange man in my house and my roommates crying first thing I would’ve done was dial 911 it’s not that hard, instead she went to bed must not have been in shock if she was able to fall asleep.
Thank you for saying that! His face is repulsive and pure evil😪
He gives me the creeps too.
No hate towards the roommate who didn’t call the police but just a thought. If she would had called 911 maybe one or more of the victims could had survived.
No idea why she would call the police for a crying friend and a playful dog.
@@hmq9052 because she saw a masked man
@@hmq9052 She said she thought she heard crying. It wasn't even enough to know for sure, and that girl was in the bedroom with her boyfriend. She probably didn't want to get in their business.
I'm sure it's a thought in her head among many others
I thought about this to but also don’t know how long she was in shock for I’ve never had it happen to be to know what that is like. And I’m sure the guilt of that is going to eat her alive but we also don’t know if she was drinking that night or anything else because I also thought about that too.
What I can’t figure out if the murders and the door dash were pretty close together why would he still go in the house if they knew people were awake?
Probably in the house already.
Think he was already in and upstairs.. people have said they seen crimescene shots of officers in the kitchen and there was a bag of food from door dash with xanas name on it in the photo… so she got food went to kitchen exactly when he was coming downstairs, screamed there’s someone in the house and ran back to her room probably to wake Ethan, gets stabbed falls on floor… he’s then immediately over to Ethan’s side of bed stabbing him..
Could have very well been. Appreciate the insight. I just want the justice for these victims families, and to stop giving the fame that this dirtbag probably wants.
How did the door dash deliver driver get ruled out already?
@@getrightconstruction1342 DoorDash constantly tracks and pings the location and movements of active Dashers. My guess is that DoorDash already forked over that data to authorities and they saw that the dasher left the scene right after dropping off the order. And then minutes later is when Kohberger showed up.
How many times and how many days in how many ways are they going to report the same thing? There are other cases that can use some airtime too.
Other cases? Such as?
This is why you don’t watch the news… there was nothing more to report- especially with a gag order-after the affidavit was released… we will hear nothing more till the trial…
This whole situation is strange, and these comments are wild. Prayers to the family and friends of the deceased. The truth will come out eventually.
yes everything about this case is bizarre, the surviving roommates behavior, how at least 2 of the victims were awake but not a single one screamed to try and warn the others or try and fight to keep the others safe. how the 911 call didn't happen until 8 hours later and it wasnt for a homicide, she called 911 because the other roommate fainted upon seeing the scene, the police not arriving there until 4pm (4 hours after the 911 call was placed and 12 hours after the murders), BK going for a PhD in criminology yet making so many dumb mistakes youd think someone with a masters in criminology would know not to make, the police essentially lying to the public about what surviving witnesses heard saw for no reason (I really can't think of any reason why they'd lie about them being asleep and not hearing anything), police in another state thousands of miles away stopping BK twice in the space of a few hours for minor traffic violations and not giving him a ticket either time. I'm sure this case will get weirder as it goes to trial and during that trial.
Lol prayers 😅
God bless this young lady.
I still believe it was two people
So bizarre that girl waited so long to call the cops….
>as he said she was in a frozen shock state
@@LOLONO666 I don’t buy it.
@@subliminal128 women react differently and more emotionally than men. You and I wouldn't have reacted like that, but she was likely in shock and blanked out.
@@subliminal128 not for one second, she knows more then what she's telling
@@hotboy80baby18 yeh, I guess you know everything right?
She did not know he killed. She did not know her housemates were murdered. It's a house that many came and went. It was a weekend also.
Yep. It’s a party house, per her neighbors statements. It’s fine we’ll find out soon enough and the people blaming her will be like the people blaming the police department, only to find out the police were doing great job.
Yes but she saw a masked man after hearing some strange noises. She also has said she was in shock. So she felt something was out of ordinary. Thus it’s strange she didn’t do something. It’s strange but not fishy as some people seem to think.
Maybe Kaylee saying there’s someone here could have been referring to the Door Dash delivery.
They should check to see how the customer was to recieve the order. Leave at door or hand it to me? Which would mean someone in the house had to acknowledge.
It’s hard for me to comprehend people who put more energy into blaming a survivor instead of the actual person who committed the quadruple homicide.
Maybe they just want to say "I knew it all along" if it turns out to be true,if it doesn't then nobody will remember they said anything in a youtube comment anyway. Basically it's a safe longshot to call,it doesn't seem to matter to them if it ruins someone's life.
Samesies 💔
She's not a survivor and shes not a victim go look up Bystander Apathy ...its a nasty phenomena when certain individuals choose to look the other way and ignore a situation because they are either too self absorbed to recognise a problem , too assured SOMEONE else will take care of the problem or simply to cowardly to take action ...even a simple sms to emergency services ...its not new I studied it in both sociology and psychology ...now in WOKE WORLD its called Frozen Shock and appears to have changed from a disturbing phenomena to a cop out for not getting assistance DEFENCE IS GOING TO RIP HER APART and I hope this gets called out for what is is,,,,,.
Not being mean but a survivor of what? She stayed in her room away from what was going on except when he walked by her leaving. Comfortable enough to go to bed after. She was a bystander
@@Goodgrief478 when 4 people are murdered in a house and someone sees the killer and shuts the door I think it’s safe to say she is a survivor, but I still think she should have called 911 way sooner.
That's why dont put every activities of yours on social media. This world is full of evil people
Roommate was so scared she forgot to call 911.
Or so drunk she forgot.
Why he came back to the crime scene? Where were the roommates when he was at the location. So many questions. Why she didn’t call cops at the moment that she heard something was wrong? Weird!
How could there not be bloody footprints? After what was done it's difficult to imagine the attacker wouldn't be drenched in blood.
There was at least one.
@@allendracabal0819 oh my gosh. A one legged murderer.
And then he jumped into his car..no stains at the traffic stop that baffles me. Blood doesnt come out of fabric easily.
@@cynthiabromback8854 He could have changed outside; in the dark and had a big trash bag with him to throw the bloody clothes in and he drove off... another reason he drove ways away, to discard the bag with bloody clothes!!
@@kerrycarter330 He was hopping mad.
You guys are great ! Really enjoying the coverage!
This is one of the best concise compliations/summaries, I have seen on this and I have seen a lot, really well done. Thank you.
I don't understand how investigators found only one shoe print? I would have thought after slaughtering 4 people, BK would have left a trail of bloody footprints behind him as he exited the house
I felt the same way.
One shoe print? He hopped.
We'll see at trial
Maybe he wore booties. Killed the original 2 targets, then was surprised by the girl getting her doordash order after he took the booties off and had to kill 2 more people who were witnesses to seeing him.
How 🤔 do you not call police? 😶
Some of these comments are disgusting. Its ok to ask why she didn't call 911 ASAP. That's natural to wanna know why, if at all she knew. What's NOT ok is victim shaming or insinuating that she is at fault. Let's hope nobody here has a child of their own go through anything like this because this is unimaginable. I wonder what parents would say if their own college student went through the same situation as D.M. and if their child made the same choice? Some of the comments here are parents themselves and it's a shame. I bet their response would be different if their kid went through the same🤔.
Seriously I can't believe how many ignorant people are going so far as to actually blame her in many ways. This is BRYANS FAULT. No one thinks "gee let me go check on every person to see if they are alive." No, she prob just chalked it up as noise disturbances and a random "buddy" of one of her roommates. I highly doubt she considered this outcome. The immense guilt she must feel... ugh 💔
I mean 2 ppl were murdered in the room next to her and she heard it
Its absolutely insane. She opened her door 3 times because of obviously out of character noises for the house. Then she sees a man dressed in black with his face covered that "paralyzed her in fear". Then she just goes to sleep for 8 hours? What?
@@jm4236 The affidavit didn't tell us her thoughts after she locked her door and it didn't say if she went to sleep.
@OP you are so right. I am shocked how many ppl point fingers at the surviving Roommate. We all react and act different.
He went out of the way like that because he stashed the murder weapon somewhere along that route, no way would anyone risk driving at 4:am covered in blood with the weapon he just killed 4 ppl with and risk being pulled over to take a longer way home, he went that way for a reason
To avoid being pulled over and cameras.
Coveralls would be easier to get out of
But he did, let us not forget he is a true psychopath
I can’t get past no one called almost 8 hours later? I know you can go into shock, but some victims fought back. They have to scream 🤔
I agree it doesn't make sense. If she was high or drunk to the point of passing out she wouldn't remember those details about the build or brows. Maybe she's the connection with BK and we haven't heard about it yet. We haven't heard of any direct link on why they were chosen and if they knew one another, maybe that girl is it
Stupid Roommate 🤦
I frequented a party house when I was in my 20's. In a house like that where different people at different levels of intoxication are going in and out at all different times of the day, you become accustomed to not paying close attention. It was common for people to sleep in till 3 or 4 pm or even 9pm, so you wouldn't necessarily be checking in on people. I had something similar happen where I saw the person, but thought they were just with someone in the house and was leaving and I just went back to bed but it ended up he stole a couple things.
The more I hear about this case is the more I had the wisdom to find all the answers to this heinous puzzle. 4 people had their lives taken, leaving their family in pain.
I hope they get justice and the truth.
One of the most puzzling things in this horrific quadruple homicide is the fact four young people got stabbed to death and yet there were hardly any loud screams. Under normal circumstances, one or multiple stabs in the torso area should give someone, even if half asleep, enough time to at least scream for help and alert someone in the immediate vicinity. In this case, just whimpers if anything.
Maybe he stabbed them in their jugular or throat. We do not know the exact locations of where the victims were stabbed.
I think she probably was drunk and rationalized everything away because she didn’t want to call the cops and potentially get in trouble. I think she passed out and didn’t wake up till noon. That’s why the police were called so late. I feel sorry for the girl. The whole country is forgetting she’s a victim too.
They have to check D phone. If she text to someone etc.
she did NOT and i repeat did not call right away she is a suspect! why the hell would you wait until the morning.?
WHY does not matter in terms of a conviction.
Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I'm wondering what did she order on doordash exactly? Did she eat any of it? This is actually an important thing
Jack in the Box. Probably some french fries.
I've been thinking the same. Also, how come the confidence of Doordash and his arrival, almost same time. Maybe there is a connection? Doordash was cleared by police, but maybe Bryan had access to Doordash order, knew they had ordered something and then he jumped in his car to go there? Knowing the door would be opened and maybe left open? We'll find out
Im sure there were a lot of evidences not being divulge yet by the authorities. Praying for the repose of those beautiful souls, gone too soon… and strength for all families left behind. May those beautiful souls Rest in Eternal Peace in heaven..🥹🙏
0:59 So PETRIFIED with fear, that she couldn't move, as the killer walked past her.
Yet she DIDN'T call police??!!
A shoe print is found outside the door of the "SURVIVING" roommate.
But the "killer" let that roommate live?
Hogwash!
And she OPENED the door THREE times ! Neither drunk, unalarmed or petrified people do that
I just can’t even imagine hurting another human being like this. My mind can’t even wrap around these horrific sad sick sadistic violent murders. Poor kids it’s heartbreaking💔😭💐
this case follows me everywhere. i just feel for the victims & their families so deeply. my heart aches for them
How did he spare the witness? He knew she had seen him clearly. Did she even check if one of the 4 murdered were still alive? Someone could have been saved if called for help. Why didn't she call 911? And what about the other surviving victim. Did she do anything? There is so much more missing in this case.
Some experts have already chimed in and concluded that the four victims could not have been saved even if 911 had been called soon after the attacks.
Yeah why didnt we hear anything from the 1st floor survivor? If it could be heardfrom outside on a ring camera 50 ft away.
he posted to forums back in 2011/2012 talking about seeing "visual snow" and how it was affecting his vision AND his mental health. He described it as being an extremely depersonalizing experience and that he basically felt no emotion once he started seeing it. He mentioned that he couldn't see very well in low light situations and that it was having affects on his vision. I imagine with adrenaline pumping after stabbing 4 people, that it was probably worse than usual. This could explain why or how he didn't see her.
Im speaking on the behave of fellow college students in Moscow & Pullman area. To all the people who are questioning why the surviving roommate did not call 911 I think it is important to understand our area. I get the questioning because of the situation now that we know what happened, but college students are up all hours of the night, almost everyone lives with multiple roommates who are also students. Pretty much all the neighbors around you are students or cows. Part of the college roommate living is ppl doing their own thing & giving each other some privacy. Then the next day you can see them & chat & do what friends do. Also, the area around U of I & WSU is pretty much just fields & farming! It has been a place where not everyone locks their doors all the time type of environment. So even if the roommates thought there may have been an argument or fight, the last thing we think is going to happen is murder. All that being said, we dont know exactly what she saw or her thinking at the time. But some stuff I hope people can keep in mind.
@@stevienesbitt6937 oh grow up
I find it harder to believe that she knew her roommates had been murdered and chose to go back to bed rather than call 911. Obviously she wasn't THAT scared if she went right back to sleep.
exactly. she had no reason to think anything bad had happened, let alone a quadruple murder!
It was a party house people in and out all the time
This days most of the young people are lacking common sense
Yes this is horrible who knows maybe one of the students could have survived had she called the police.
She slept after she knew something bad was happening!
Wtf who does that??
She froze for 8 hours??
She didn't know her roommates were murdered. She thought one was playing with her dog. Another one she thought she heard crying, but obviously not loud enough to know if she was crying, and that roommate was in her bedroom with her boyfriend.
She saw a killer (or person in black with face covered) that had her frozen in fear... and went to sleep (frozen in fear)...then called friends instead of 911 8 HOURS LATER then her friends call 911? No...none of that makes any sense whatsoever period.
How do you kill 4 people with a KNIFE silently? Xana didnt scream she just said "someone's here" and slightly cried or whimpered? No way we have the whole story here.
Then, your son lives 10 min away from a slaughter that is worldwide headline news and they happen to be looking for the EXACT SAME CAR your son drives. Nothing to talk about there?
Dude this is getting annoying. These details have been out for over a week. You guys are stretching this so far to keep people clicking even though there aren’t new details yet
If one roommate got stabbed wouldn't the other roommate in the room start screaming? I don't remember the surviving roommate saying they heard screaming. Kaylee and Maddie were on the same bed.
We don't have all the facts yet. Police are still holding a great deal of info. Have to wait for trial / discovery etc
So sad the world we now live in
And it’s only gonna get worse just like the Bible says.. hopefully you havnt procreated andit time to think about having burial plans ready and riding it out till old age and dying or getting outta here early by one’s own hand… it’s not worth it here no more… the earth will be left with only evil people on it… so glad I never married or had kids… I seen this shit coming 40 years ago when I was about 13.
Thoughts and prayers.
Great reporting
This entire case is wild. So many peoples were accused and ramping up views for this story. Law enforcement knows what they are doing. There are many questions left to answer. Why didn't the roommate call the police? Why didn't she check up on her other roommates after seeing the killer leave from the back door? We are missing a lot and this puzzle will surely solve very soon I suppose 😉
That's exactly what I'm thinking? If I see someone in a ski mask leaving my house I'm calling the police immediately! I can't help but wonder if she had a play in this. This story is MISSING so many details that need to be answered.
@@angeleyes2941 i can't help but wonder if some of these kids were still alive after the stabbings and by Dylan NOT calling 911 immediately, may have led to their slow deaths!
It's a horrifying thought they might have still been alive and she did nothing..in my opinion.
The investigation needs to continue.
@@angeleyes2941 The guy DM seen in the house was wearing a covid mask,not a ski mask.his whole face wasn't covered,she could still see his eyes,and his bushy eyebrows,and I don't think for a second DM had anything to do with this!!!
Dylan did not have the information we have. As far as she knew, Kaylee was playing with her dog and Zana was watching TikTok. It was a party house with people coming and going all the time, at all hours. If she heard a sound and opened her door a bit and saw a guy coming towards her, she likely would have thought he had been there visiting one of her roommates and not thought much of it. He might have given her the creeps and that’s why she closed and locked her door. There is no way she thought this guy just murdered everyone in the house. Hindsight is 20/20 but she has no one and nothing to answer to/for. She couldn’t possibly be expected to know what happened. Everyone should leave her alone. All of this victim blaming is unacceptable. She’s so young and has been traumatized deeply. Every second of the trauma and grief is Bryan Kohbergers fault. Lay every bit of blame at his feet and no one else. This is his fault 100%. Dylan is an innocent victim here.
@@angeleyes2941 What? It was a CoVid mask and ever heard of "shock"? STOP blaming the survivor! If Bryan saw her she'd be dead. Try to keep up, okay?
That is so sad
I have a question to the surveillance department? When did the father came into the picture?
What I don’t understand is if she saw and heard all of that, at that time of the morning… Why did it take so long to call 911❓❓❓❓❓❓
The first thought to 99% of people is to CALL 911!!!!!!!!!
The police had been there many times for noise complaints. So imagine her calling and saying it's weirdly quiet except for Door Dash at 4 am, my roommate crying and a guy telling her that he'd help her and some guy in black clothes wearing a covid mask just leaving - so can you send an officer right away? She locked her door, heard nothing more and finally got back to sleep after being awoken when everyone else came home from the party and bar, and she slept in just like Bethany, the roommate on the first floor. There, that wasn't so hard.
@@paulaheady8990 just the 2 ppl murdered in the room next door and an intruder in the hall
@@loopvil369 your hindsight doesn’t apply here
@@shangoml crying, loud bang, someone's in the house, bloodsoaked strange man with knife walks past your room. Yup, nothing to see here
I bet he planned on killing all 6 but after stabbing 4 of them dead that fast he could’ve just simply been exhausted and that’s why he didn’t kill anyone else and just walked out the door. Killers have their fantasies but when they actually go through with it they realize it’s not as easy as in the movies.
Adrenaline doesn't work like that. He didn't know Bethany was on the first floor. DM saw him but he did not see her.
He would have killed her too .! Had he seen her .
He didn't want to get caught.
So he knew he needed to leave.
I think he was only there to kill one or two, but things went south. He probably realized he made too much commotion and thought the police were on the way, so he skedaddled.
@@lebski6033 Yeah he probably didnt expect a male in Zs room nor two women in one bed. Was it Ms room or Ks room? Anyway we'll find out in time.
With all due respect to the owner of the house ...it needs to be demolished. ..just my opinion
Call me whatever you will, but if I had my way:
Once Bryan’s convicted, He’d first be required be be locked in room alone with victim’s fathers, family members..followed by receiving an ‘eye for an eye’ punishment.
If that helps save lives by being a more effective deterrent, great. If not- at least that’s as close to justice served as we’d get.
I’m sorry if you were that frozen scared there is no way you would go to sleep. You would be calling 911. I’ve been in some traumatic situations and let me tell you the first thing I did was call 911…
I don't think this is as it seems and we'll find out at trial what actually happened. I'm thinking maybe she was scared at first then convinced herself that she was just being silly and went to bed. Like I said though, we'll know eventually.
@@justthatgirl-ct4jo I agree with you to on some points 😄 but I still think that if you happen to see an intruder in your home you would not look the other way. At least I would never look the other way, that’s why they have the emergency button on the iPhones now…
Lots of people arguing over this point but it's quite likely we don't have all the information. Based on what we've been told, it's troubling that she was both intensely frightened - "frozen in shock" -- but also that she did nothing to check on her roommates.
It was a party house with lots of people coming and going so if she saw him and didn't feel frightened -- her lack of response would make more sense.
But she obviously didn't realize her roommates had been slaughtered when he left.
@@pjSoCal23 Well, I definitely wouldn't look away at my house lol, but it's been put out there a lot that there were constantly people in and out of the house. The police even went by there one day for a noise complaint and none of the renters were there. It was just a bunch of people in and out. So, considering this wasn't unusual for them, that's why I think that could be the case. I don't have a bunch of people in and out of my house with roommates hooking up all hours of the night, so if I see someone in my house, I'm freaking the fuck out. God, that's horrible to even think about.
🙏🏿 for everyone involved, but think there is more to it he was not alone
There has not been any evidence of anyone else being involved. That could change once court proceedings begin, though.
@@michealsizemore1 correct, I could be wrong don't want to put anything on anyone but I wonder about his reddit post asking for criminals & why 911 wasn't called sooner, but like you said wait and see, stay safe 🙏🏿🙏 senseless stuff like this comes to an end
@@WW-cb2my Agreed.
Well, yeah, there were six people in the house. He killed four of them.
Thank you Brian Entin , thoroughly enjoy your commentaries!
what restaurant is serving food for delivery at 4am in a small town like moscow? i looked it up on maps and it appears to be none
If Bryan were wearing a mask how did she see his 'bushy' eyebrows?
he was wearing a mask covering his mouth and nose, you know, like the face masks everyone has been wearing for the last couple of years? Its in the affidavit and the video you're commenting on
none of this is new details