Did Idaho police overlook evidence of a sex crime? | Banfield
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- Former cold-case investigator Paul Holes, whose work led to the Golden State Killer's identification and arrest, joined NewsNatino's "Banfield" to discuss the Idaho college killings. "It wouldn't surprise me that due to the nature of Kohberger's background, and the types of victims he's going after, there's a possibility that there's a sexual component to this crime that was missed," Holes said.
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I'm really tired of pointing this out but criminology is NOT forensics. Criminology studies the mind, motivations etc of the criminal. Forensics studies how they get away with the crime.
The mistakes this guy made are FORENSIC in nature.
Forensic psychology studies the mind of the murderer. Criminology teaches forensics and psychology too.
Yes, but remember his undergrad degree was in cloud-based forensics. All of this camera footage of his own car and cell phone data really were sloppy mistakes…
Then you are not surprised how stupid most of the commenter on here are. They are either in 7th grade or never made it past 6th grade. They say the dumbest things.
@@danams4166 his undergrad was in psychology
Thank you
There can be sexual motivations for murder without the killer actually committing sexual assault. Sometimes (for sickos) the murder itself provides the sexual release.
Great point, thanks!
Some forensic psychologists believe that the knife is an extension of the penis 0,there's some deep dark stuff in the mind of killers like this
@@susannana6729 I hear it before
Facts!
@susannana: Yes, that's true!
I’m so disappointed in Ashleigh. She blasted LE at the beginning for saying they had no suspects and now that they’ve made an arrest she’s blasting LE for taking so long. I’m surprised she’s not complaining he’s not on trial yet. The fact is LE handled this case perfectly from the very beginning when they called in the FBI to help. There’s a lot of people who owe them an apology.
Media are parasites. They feed on pain.
100% agree.
Naw
I agree. She was down right rude!
Glad some people are thinking for themselves!
The idea he wanted to be a cop and applied is so petrifying …. Being a cop would help him cover all his tracks!
In my opinion this case was solved very quickly. What does she mean LE took weeks so arrest him? Does she not know they need sufficient evidence? Why doesn't Ashleigh talk about all the cases that still haven't been solved even after decades? I will have more respect for her if she does that! She is annoying! She is constantly putting down LE.
True! She’s so full of herself and likes to put down LE. She needs to go.
I thought she's on leave or vacation.😕
DNA takes time to process! The subpoenas for cellphone records, device searches, searching a LOT of camera footage to assemble his movements across a wide grid because he tried to be evasive. Honestly, it seems quick.
She is deaf... LE have been saying since day one they wanted a CONVICTION not just an arrest
She basically gets paid to stir the pot.
Surprises me that people are making guesses about details we dont know. Almost everything we thought was true was wrong. police did a great job of keeping details quiet in order to catch this monster.
Well that isn't true. Great analysis.
He spewed the nasty details on 4 chan and reddit..str8 barbaric. The dude is sick up stairs
"Almost everything WE thought.." Doesn't include me. I wanted to make that very clear.
@@ashtonguillory2179 nobody knows who that was yet.
@@ashtonguillory2179
Wait what??
Love how he positioned his book in his bookshelf for the interview. 👍😂
I'm wondering about the conversations between Bryan and his father during their cross country road trip. It's hard to believe that they would not have discussed the murder, especially considering Bryan was a student of criminology and resided within 10 miles of the murders. I bet that the father knows far more than he is letting on and is probably hiding his own suspicions he might have for his son.
i bet they discussed it at length and bryan told his dad all his 'theories' - he probably loved talking about it. but i'm completely sure he did not tell his dad it was him and i'm sure the dad didn't have a clue.
@Robin Soper
What evidence suggests he discussed the murder with his father?
Knowing his son was a student of criminology would likely contribute to his not suspecting sons involvement.
It's not in any way unusual for family members to be unaware their loved one committed, or participated in murder &/or other forms of violence. This is actually very well documented.
I'm absolutely sure the murders were discussed, especially considering how they talked about the shooting at WSU during the traffic stop. I feel for his dad, who must have struggled with Bryan all through his troubled years but his pride is so obvious when mentioning that Bryan was a PhD student, he was blind to what was going on. Denial can run so deep between loved ones. I'm sure.not perfect but I'm humbled by the love my family has shown me through the years even when I wasn't even likeable to myself. I'm sure his dad was clinging to the hope and belief that his son was doing pretty well to be in a PhD program after he had been through the issues from his younger years. I genuinely feel terrible for Bryan's family and wish people would stop saying his family created a monster, etc. That is a gross oversimplification. If Bryan is the killer, there is much more to the story and not every dysfunctional family produces murderers. Leave the poor dad out of it. He was clearly disturbed by the shooting at WSU, and seems like a normal guy who is saddened by the ailings of society. What Bryan's family must be going through is unimaginable. It's a totally different kind of grief from the murder victim's families, but Bryan's family is going to suffer this for the rest of their lives, too. Sad all around.
@@clairemcnally6293 I hear you. My son was a homeless meth addict for several years and suffered psychosis as a result. Even though I loved him as any father would I spent many years fearing what harm would come to him or others as a consequence. Thankfully he has been in recovery for several years now and is living a productive life. I too am horrified for the thought of just how painful this must be for all the families.
@@fernfunk Kohberger did not discuss the case with other students and got quiet when it was brought up. I highly doubt he took this sort of vocal pride.
I don't understand why this women seems to think arresting him on just the stops an car alone would be enough. They really needed to wait for all the evidence an testing to come back to point to him an the more the better,so he has a less chance of getting off of this somehow. The amount of work they did an the amount of evidence pointing to this monster is impressive an I hope to God is more than enough now to secure a conviction. They needed to make sure they had enough pointing to him to finally catch this monster an the more an more they got is pointing to him like crazy. No way anyone else did this! The Police did an amazing,amazing Job❤️
But why were they allowing the father to be in the car going from Idaho to Pennsylvania Wouldn't the father be unknowingly tampering with the hes son DNA. That doesn't make sense eighter.
So let a murderer walk free to murder again till you get evidence?
@@v247videos Never said that. He was clearly spooked after he committed this crime because he changed his lisecnse plate an everything,an than drove across the country to hide out in the woods. I don't believe it was just for the Holidays. I also live only an hour away from his parents house,it's all wood's up in that area. I don't think he was going to kill someone else during that time period because of how careful he was trying to be not to get caught. The Police did the right thing because with a crime to this extent you need all the evidence you can get,especially if he crossed state lines like he did. By not waiting you never know he may have gotten off if they didn't gather the amount they did before going in an taking him into custody,which may have made him get off an kill again. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the Police did absolutely everything right in this case.
@@v247videos also,if they wouldn't have gathered so much evidence before taking him into custody he may have gotten off on bail an would have fled again,killed someone,or himself an than these families wouldn't get justice.
@@michaelpower4372 I agree it doesn't but they didn't want to tip him off because I read the FBI asked the Police to pull him off to capture imagines of his hands (assuming so they could have that to use during the trial as well if he still had any inguries to them)
I wish Ashley would talk less and ask more questions of her guests. I'm always wanting to hear from the experts she has on, but she often holds court with her own thinking process for so long that it leaves less time for her expert to offer his thoughts.
Agree. She loves to hear herself talk
it's like she's trying to be rachel maddow but failing miserably
Can't stand her me and I agree I'd rather hear the guests talk rather than her she doesn't stop !!
Correct, that is a typical Narzizist trait.. Me, me, me and than, wait.. me.
looking for something to create clicks
Feel horrible for the families of the Idaho murders! Prayers🙏
LE did an awesome job. They arrested the suspect in 6 weeks and they had thousands of tips to go through. They have my utmost respect. I don't care if they missed a SA initially. They got a very dangerous man off the streets and they should be commended, not picked apart for mistakes that might have been made.
It took over 5 years to solve the Delphi murders even with a video clip of the killer on one of the victim's phones. So this case was solved amazingly fast with enough solid evidence to convict. Happy for LE that Holes acknowledged that.
💯💯💯
To be fair, it looks like the Delphi case could have been solved in a similar time frame if they hadn’t f$&@ed it up so badly
yes! i've also followed the delphi case for years, even after 5 years investigators didn't come up with as much evidence as they did with bryan. it was extremely well built in only about 7 weeks time
I think there is just too much evidence against him... With that much evidence against him seems like hes just got to be innocent. Defund the Police ✊
@@laurenkoehler1956 It was reported that Allen admitted in 2017 that he was on the bridge on the day of the murders and eyewitnesses described crossing paths with a man in muddy, bloody clothes fitting his description and that information somehow never made it into the system due to a "clerical error". Delphi was a botched investigation.
Ashleigh doesn’t understand why it takes so long? Seven weeks is not a long time to identify a suspect in a quadruple murder. She is vile.
They really need to take her off the air. She comes across as a complete idiot asking stupid questions,interrupts people and speaks in a sensational way like she Jerry Springer. Ugh replace her
She is a reporter not a detective. She needs to make these comments to get some good ratings for her channel. But the detectives nailed this. Pretty sure they watched Kohberger throughout this time so that he would not strike again.
She said in this video she knows nothing about investigative tactics, yet she was quick to.criticize the investigators throughout the last 2 months.
I agree with all these comments. She has really turned me off how she has handled it. Det Ken Mains, Unsolved No more on YT, was cut off by her bc he didn’t agree with her narrative. He has a video about it. He is retired from active LE work except for cold cases now. He is spot on…she is a joke.
LE handled this perfectly when you read the affidavit. I think they have a solid case. Jmo
@@rhondadavis1483 she cuts everyone off. And she has this manic way of speaking that is so off putting. She even cuts off colleagues reporting in the field. And she’s insulting thinking she knows more than the LE who have experience in this field
Shock. He was in a state of detachment because his executive functioning portion of his thinking was suspended. The "lizard brain" was in control. This is talked about in PTSD and trauma therapy. The killer was in a daze-like state.
So they pretty much knew who it was within a couple of weeks, keeping it very quiet from the public because they had to get there ducks in a row. They did an Fantastic Job .. Wow I can't believe what all they did in a short amount of time without it going any further.
Why is she always trying to look for negative when there aren't negatives? These police 🚔 did a awesome job of not only keeping quite on all this evidence they had but also in a timely manner! Like come on,give credit when it's due and not always try to hammer professionals about something you don't know much about! Great job L.E!!!
I've been thinking the same thing @Robert Hollister. All she has done is complain and pick apart everything law enforcement "isn't" doing. Without knowing the hard work going on behind the scenes.
There’s a reason she’s the same channel as Chris cuomo. People don’t like her, condescending, negative, feels like she knows it all and is kinda acting like she’s tweaking on adderall. Very annoying
@@Dann2013I don't know who is worse, Banfield or Vittert? He is a mini Tucker Carlson! Both make my skin crawl 🤣
Could you imagine studying under her🤔
She probably overdoes with her critical thinking!🤔
They couldn’t get the phone records until they had enough to get a warrant for them
Exactly, that’s what I thought. They couldn’t just pull the records straight away.
Ashleigh is really getting off on all of this. It's disgusting and disrespectful to the victims & their families.
The roommate hears the noises, looks out her door 4 times. She sees the man walk right past her. She got a good description of the offender without him seeing her. She knew something was wrong yet waits till the next afternoon to call the police after the bodies are found? She is a liar or involved. Who would see a stranger in all black walking through the home and doesn’t call police. She’s frozen with fear,yet goes back to sleep for 8 hours. Nope!!
She was probably a stoner or drunk a frat college party house yes it’s possible beyond reasonable doubt 🔪
👎 you don't. K ow. What. She. Knew lady
For a crime like this to be solved this quick amazes me!
Police work is getting better all the time especially with all the science and technology we thankfully have available. Suspect obviously thought he had covered his back, shows how wrong you can be!
Exactly,poor little Summer Wells case has gone cold
Imagine he got framed. I really hope its the killer otherwise it would be devastating ....
Its just weird that they solved this so quickly. Plus how is a guy studying criminology being so sloppy with his crime?I read somewhere that the police were under a lot of pressure and they had to find a suspect asap.idk this case doesn't sit right with me.
@@masha2215 Agree, very strange, to leave a knife sheath next to a body and he walked out of there, he wasn’t running or in a hurry, it is almost to simple to be true. Idk
@@masha2215 Just how, with all that evidence they got for him, he was stalking them, what was already proved he was around that house around 11 times in total maybe more,his DNA was found on the sheath of the knife next to the victim. There’s way more and police don’t share obviously, we know what they want us to know.
His psychopathy/narcissism stifled him, made mistakes. I believe it’s about sex/rejection. Three primary reasons to kill: greed, revenge, sex. Women who know Bryan say he’s a misogynist.
and your sources are to your accusation are? or are you just a wannabe sleuth bored person in the basement? cmon...tell us the facts!
No known contact with the girls (yet), so I don't think it was rejection. I think he's a big sicko that just get's off on killing (playing God). And he found the girls attractive and very easy targets living in a party house. Probably saw them on social media, a bar, or at their jobs and started stalking them and figured out they were easy targets pretty quick.
Interesting. Thank you for that info. I don't recall hearing of women who know him saying that, or hearing anything from women who know him, so thank you. I wouldn't be at all surprised if sexual rejection is part of this. I do seem to recall hearing something about that being routine for him. That would also be consistent with the misogyny: incels who blame or hate women for rejecting them, instead of working on their character.
What women?
These drunk kids made it easy for him. Maybe they call 911 while he's in the home? What a concept!
Sometimes young people who are overly educated but lacking everyday life and social skills are stuck in their heads with a sense of invulnerability and arrogance, thinking they can fool everyone else and get away with things. This may be the case with Kohberger.
All that schooling and he is declared indigent. How sad.
@@yvonnebaker5174 I'll bet he has student loans out the wazoo. Remember his parents declared bankruptcy again in 2020.
@@NCAdventuress I am sure. And if he receives the jab the debt will be written off.
@@NCAdventuress the guilt the parents will live with for having brought up such a loser. They lived in denial about his issues and his behind 'he's highly in8 but awkward, bullied because he,was overweight. Coddled and told he was superior due to intelligence, gender. Living with and off of parents then student loans. Something wrong with that gene pool.
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I agree. The issue about demanding parents replace all cooking pots that ever touched meat is absurd. They should have let him starve!
I love the look on his face when he's pulled over by the police. It's the look of sheer horror. Like he thought he was caught. I really think he was frustrated and an INCEL in a way. The girl he wanted rejected him. Maybe even made a comment to him that he didn't like. What's so baffling is why he, a criminal justice student, KNOWING there was no chance he would get away with this, that he would do it anyway. I also feel bad for his father and mother and family. Here dad has a son he's extremely proud of to have his world collapse because of what his son did.
I've read that he was a recovered heroin addict. For a parent to see their kid beat an addiction like that, turn their life around going for a PhD. Just to go and do THIS. man. They have to be devastated.
@@michael69040 I would say the parents are enablers of his OCD with replacing their cooking pots and pans but wouldn't call them monsters because they are also BK's victims. I think BK has frontal lobe issues since he didn't have healthy emotions, or emotions at all. He may be severely brain damaged,
@@michael69040 A plea deal wouldn't surprise me if he wants to avoid death penalty especially if his DNA is found under the victim's fingernails. So life in prison with no parole. But wouldn't he be in solitary since I'd suspect he'd be killed in the prison population? Either way he's a Dead Man Walking.
This isn't that simple .we are going to find a lot more
Why did it take so long? What? You MEDIA need to stop trying to rile people up.!!
Get over it, it's news. Only one that sounds riled up is you,
Gets more views And stimulates conversations
This is so weird. I just 2 days ago finished the audiobook written by Paul Holes. I had never heard of him before, just randomly choose this book from my local online library. It was an incredibly interesting and informative book.
I think this was NOT the first time he’s killed people. Four people sleeping in a home he knew had 6 roommates seems mighty ambitious. I think his dna will likely match a few other cases going back to when he was a 15-17 yr old teenager, authorities should look all over the place where he has lived/ traveled for open/ cold cases.
This lower 1/3 is a joke.. it didnt take too long at all. Police did an incredible job here. Banfield should be embarassed.
And if the police hurried things and made a mistake that got the case thrown out people like her would be talking about how incompetent they are.
It took too long to find one man tf you mean?
No they didn't. please tell us why you are such an expert?
Police did great.
@@buttertoast1146 They had a suspect within two weeks. You can't just arrest someone without all this probable cause. They spent the rest of this time building a case. As such the case against this guy is very strong.
What's ironic. He wouldn't eat anything cooked in cookware that had meat in them. But he uses a knife where the sheath is made from leather. Leather comes from animals.
We (the public) don’t yet know of what material that particular sheath was made. The sheath shown is merely for demonstration.
@@u.synlig go to TH-cam.... NBC NEWS .... headline.... DNA ON KNIFE SHEATH LINKS SUSPECT TO IDAHO MURDERS .... it states it was a leather sheath. Also so does the affidavit.
He probably made the exception for his human butchering equipment. Dude is quite the sicko
@@anitakristensen4679 Thanks. I will check that. 👍
@@u.synlig your welcome.
The Idaho police did so well, that nobody realized they had solved the case, but just needed evidence. They did so well, that not even the killer knew he was caught. Furthermore, I'm afraid they have all they need for a slam dunk case. What more evidence would they need? I'm jumping in the defense in this one. They did damn good. Move along.
took so long? they had eyes on him within 2 weeks! they had to somehow get his DNA for probable cause to arrest him. they knew he was in the area, his car spotted and phone pinged, thats not enough to arrest!
It takes a long time because you have to be able to get search warrants and provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you need search warrants for a vehicle, phone etc. It also takes time to process DNA evidence.
@@bambooprincess3495 its up to a jury
@@denisekoenig9479 bamboo princess is correct
@@bambooprincess3495 Proof of Probable Cause though.Hope there is more than the Sheath +1 footprint..I hoped it was blood or hair etc.Maybe yet to be revealed. I'm no expert though Defense could knock those two out.Full praise for All LE.👏 Sterling Work.
@Veronica Gower the sheath of the murder weapon with his DNA, his cell phone records, and the car is a lot.
@@bambooprincess3495 oh my bad I read something wrong apparently lol sorry
Scoping out the house in his own car, driving to and from the crime in the same car, taking his cell phone through all of it, leaving the knife sheath, leaving dna, leaving an eyewitness... I can only conclude that he wanted to be caught. An average person could do a better job after watching 2 episodes of forensic files.
He probably didn’t see the witness!
Yep definitely something fishy going on 🤔
Maybe one the victims grabbed the sheath during the attacks, and he was unaware until he was then walking out as the survivor saw his form. He may have realized, he had lost it.
I wonder if the roommate had called 911 at the moment he saw BK. Could any of the victims have been saved?
Or he could be so narcissistic, feeling smarter than the police, that he never thought about these details. When you have never done a thing, whatever it is, you never know beforehand what exactly will happen, what details will go wrong. Ask any new parent. You just read, ask others and imagine. And then you face the harsh reality. It does not matter how well prepared you are, there are still things you do not know about and that will surprise you. Like that they were not all asleep as I guess he thought they would be. That can be why he forgot the sheath in all chaos.
I also think, because he was not an friend or a relative to his victims, he probably thought that the police would never find him. That they would not connect the dots.
I don't understand why these people are questioning the police dept investigation, in my way of thinking, they did an awesome job in their investigation.
Also, 7 weeks to arrest a quadruple homicide suspect is pretty good, in my opinion! They hadn't even had one homicide in years, let alone 4! I give them a lot of respect for knowing immediately they were in over their heads and asking for help.
He is very evil and I think he would have killed again. Prayers for the people who died. I hope they are in Heaven and out of pain.
They are checking to see if some cases in PA may be linked to him.
It might be far-fetched but your first murder and you go straight to stabbing four people? Given it’s not it passion crime, but rather some thing he planned, it wouldn’t surprise me if this wasn’t his first rodeo.
And I agree with you I don’t think this would be his only. It is too grim of a crime! We’re not talking about shooting in disposing a single person this is for people with a knife!
Banfield you are really whining bout them catching the dude within 7 weeks?
And, with loads of good evidence.
Banfield is missing the point. She has really gone off the rails since the pitito case. There have been a couple people she has shut off just on this case because they would not go with her story.
I don t think the police have missed a thing....I think they thought of everything
By the police sure did some good work on this one
He left his knife sheath with his DNA on it.
I disagree. The fbi and possibly the state forensic lab did a fantastic job on dna and genetic dna. The clerk at the convenience store broke the case open with seeing the car on video. The WSU cops did good on locating the car. The local Moscow cops didn't do much but be happy everyone else solved the case for them and made them look good.
@@leahwhiteley5164 sometimes it's best to keep your mouth shut. The police found the knife sheath and knew it was important, the store clerk's video was a small part of all the video evidence they looked over and tracked his car. The fact it said that in the affidavit and you still talked nonsense is hilarious.
@@leahwhiteley5164 i don't know if the car the clerk saw was even the right car because today in the affidavit it said the murders occurred between 4 to 5 am so that changes things
@@optimisticcosmic DNA means absolutely nothing if you can't link it to someone. That takes a lot of effort.
Imagine how much more evidence there must be if they have released this much in a redacted affidavit!!
Exactly. Something people are overlooking
That's what I think too. You don't show all your cards in the PCW. Wonder how much more solid evidence there actually is???
Tons more evidence to come!
Banfield saying “I don’t know your business” while trying to tell Holes his business. And why they didn’t arrest him on sight for his bushy eyebrows is baffling! 🙄 Give me a break! Monday morning quarterbacking! 😡 Great job by law enforcement and thank you to all agencies, LE officers, technicians, data analysts and so on who worked tirelessly to catch this guy and to build a solid case.
That caption is crazy. They arrested this guy in a short time. My gosh,they have to get things correct.
I can't believe the audacity of this reporter to be asking such things at this point in the case. The police were building the case on this guy.
She’s an annoying arrogant self absorbed wanker
Exactly! I cannot even with her. She is ridiculous. I question not the Moscow police department but her boss! How in the world does she keep this job?
I’m sure she is a very nice lady but she dang sure is not a reporter? I’m over her, like yesterday!
He wasn’t there long enough to SA anyone and the police said there wasn’t any evidence of SA. Banfield is really pissing me off tonight.
Just the act of murder alone, in and of itself, can be the SA.
@@AntoinMhicArtain that’s true. it’s sick but some ppl get off on it.
@@AntoinMhicArtain The perp can get sexual gratification from murder, but no absolutely nowhere on this planet does any law classify murder as the same act as SA. They are 2 separate acts and they carry 2 separate charges.
@@timberline1487 When did I say it was?
Yes. Plus, the premise of this video was actual physical sexual contact.
One thing I learned in nursing school...just bcuz someone is book smart, they don't always know how to apply the concepts to real life situations. Perhaps this guy is one of those ppl.
I feel like she’s trying to double down on “this took too long” instead of understanding how delicate a situation like this is and noting how well the cops handled it. I’m sure he’s not the only bushy-eyebrowed white Elantra owner someone reported.
Sometimes we forget that it’s not all about us. If we knew they were onto him, so would he. And it would’ve made it harder for them to obtain evidence, specifically his DNA from the trash for an exact hit. He could’ve even killed himself, in which case there would’ve been even fewer answers in the end.
I think they did a great job handling it especially with all the outside noise/pressure.
I hate it when people ask why it’s taking so long and why haven’t they caught him yet and blaming anyone and everyone, imagine the sheer amount of data that needs to be sifted though and the drip feed of intel and if they over shoot it can spook the suspect and mess up the entire case especially as this guys a crim phd, in this case the Moscow police acted pretty quickly and cleanly compared to many other cases and tbh everyone on the internet blaming everyone could’ve really jeopardised it.
The “victims” held house parties and invited everyone and their mother to that house, the delay is mostly on them.
@@hakimbandaru1915 blaming them for their own murders? Because they threw parties and knew a lot of people? Good lord
Because Goncalves hired an attorney.
Yeah they did. Tip him off by pulling him over Let him flee to PA and scrub evidence. Blow out windows and doors etc. yeah real clen for public servant!
My cousin and his fiance were murdered in 2006 in Pike County Ohio. Shot dead in their bed. It has been 16 years and no arrests. No persons of interest named in spite of eye witness statements. 7 weeks and an arrest is a miracle! I pray for all the families. May God watch over you during this troubling time.
She's stuck in her presumptions and won't let go. She made notes and won't just throw them away and out of her mind and LISTEN to what he's saying. The local police had a mountain of tips and bits of data to sort through. They were thorough and they got the guy. It took whatever length of time it took. They did a great job.
Exactly! We are talking about a brutal murder of 4 beautiful people. They want to get this right for the victims and their families. If anything is overlooked and they jump too quickly at making an arrest. They could possibly be giving him a get out of jail free card. Law enforcement did a superb job. They wanted to make sure they had enough evidence to not only arrest but to CONVICT! 💯
Fbi and others. If Goncalves didn't hire am attorney it would have gone cold. Egos.
I was extremely shocked that there was no sexual assault in this case. It's possible that police are holding evidence of that close to the best,as well
It’s pretty incredible how the officials put all of the evidence this far so well together, they absolutely do their jobs very well, shows fabulous team work, & helps make one feel safe, just knowing so far.
@L’esprit de l’escalier they have everyone's DNA and ALL are under surveillance today. Because of this case, the public seems to applaud this.
@@lespritdelescalier4858he knife dna could be just from him touching it in the store. The phone pings only tell you he was within 20 miles of the tower, its not gps…. He also lives 15min away…. Driving in the area is easily explained when you live 15min away… placing his phone jn airplane mode is not illegal or proves anything… This case is not nearly as tight as you all think. Remember you only got one side of the story.
Here we go again, Nancy Drew is back on the case 🥴
In the way Ashleigh
Don't insult Nancy Drew like that!
Haha yea Ashleigh makes me feel insecure and jealous too… (what all the Banfield haters really think)
@@bro6568 oh, come on, you can do better than “ur jealous” 😂
@@innocentnemesis3519 I can’t do better than the truth.. I calls em like I sees em.. y’all jealous AF 😂
Banfield always trying to trash LE! Sad
..she’s from CNN, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I wonder if BK was so interested in the thoughts of killers that he failed to study how to get away with murder and thats why he possibly made basic mistakes.
Ashleigh and other reporters at News Nation are so articulate and clear. I always come here first when I want the latest. Do they ever sleep, lol? Because it takes hours, I'm sure, to put it all together. Bravo! And thank you.
This channel has been wrong on every idea they have put forward and now think they’re Sherlock Holmes 🤦♂️
This lady not this channel.. The other guy in this channel is much more impartial. They should fire this woman if they really wanna save this channel. I hate this lady being too extreme.. Bet she is legit Karen in real life
lol
Banfield is such a disagreeable woman…she comes across as self-righteous and judgemental
Don't watch then.
This case is/was covered nation wide IMO there's NO WAY his dad didn't hear atleast once there was a search for an identical car that the family owns.
As more and more details of this case are revealed, you can see how much the media and these reporters have no idea what they are talking about... this lady's journalism skills are those of a high school newspaper reporter...
How so, please?
Eh, I’d disagree with that. If so many details were kept secret (for good cause), then what outlets have been getting it right??? She has to ask stupid questions because guess what, there’s thousands of brainless people around the world asking stupid questions or being web sleuths and falsely accusing people. Plus, you’d get up in front of that camera and look like a fucking idiot. All of you dumping on reporter gal need to get over yourselves. Y’all did nothing, contributed nothing. So shut up
@@ALinn-vr3nl
90% of MSM is lies and propaganda
Key word ‘lady’’s’ right? Another misogynist.
Or worse sometimes 😮
Idahoan here 🙋🏼♀️ NewsNation you’ve lost a viewer after this disgusting coverage by Banfield.
She’s been horrible!!
Bye Felicia
Not to mention they cover Fredo Cuomo
Kentuckian here telling you (Brittany) to go watch paint dry and quit being a Karen. Do you think News Nation cares about you not watching them?.
It would probably be helpful if you point out the things that specifically bothered you
It did not take too long. It took precisely the amount of time needed to identify the proper suspect and get a righteous arrest.
I was a criminal psych major. He has absolutely studied most serial killers. I have too, so he definitely has.
Never misses an opportunity to put down law enforcement...law enforcement did an excellent job on this case...worked endless hours making sure their t's were crossed and their i's were dotted in not only an arrest but a successful conviction, just another reminder why i don't watch mainstream media.
100%. She acts like you always have to arrest a dude just cause he has a whote car and bushy eyebrows (instead of keeping an eye on him while you build a much strogner case). If they had arrested him and then it turned out the dna didnt match, or the car turned out not to be THE car, they police would've looked like idiots. But ashleigh knows better and has that tone like she's not just giving us a possibility but that she has no doubt.
@@viqala9159 She's a clown. She still salty they didn't tell her everything
Newsnation has gone down the drains lately.
Dude. Nothing's ever is enough for this woman 😂
Well now we know that young blonde women do the same things in horror movies that they do in real life when facing a masked killer. Stare at the killer, move closer towards the danger, or trip and fall.
Ashley, they have to be so careful and gather a bunch of evidence pointing to the suspect. Remember, the defense will do all they can to get evidence thrown out. They will also claim there was a rush to judgement and narrow-mindedness.
I think the police did a fabulous job getting all of the evidence together. It was pretty speedy actually
Banfield, just know I'm tired of you and your shenanigans. You're the reason I stopped watching court tv, until you left. Don't make me have to stop watching news nation too🤦🏽♀️
We dont know the full story yet!
It’s literally called BANFIELD, are you a retard who is unable to read and not hit play??
She is startin to sound like Nancy Grace
@@sarcasticklutz that would be a good thing
@@michaelpfister2779 4 u maybe
..I dislike Nancy her voice disturbs me
For someone who knows so much about how all this works he sure left enough to fry himself! He does not look that concerned about what's going on!
Is he mentally not ok then ?
Burn baby burn. But some thug in PA jail threatened to take him out.
Anyone who opened that same sheath at the retail store would have left DNA on the snap.
Evidence of intimate relations between Kohberger with one or more of the occupants of the apartment would be a disaster for the prosecution, not Kohberger.
LE did an incredible job here. (1) they put enough heat on the subject so that no other attacks were committed but not so much where he fled the Country (2) they gathered all their evidence without tripping their hand or leaving themselves open to claims of a bungled investigation (3) made a quick arrest.
As far as the sexual aspect, mostly likely the violence itself was his turn on, also because of how quickly he moved from victim to victim. Horrible, RIP kids.
It's a quadruple murder, so I'd imagine that law enforcement are going to gather up as much factual evidence as they can as long as they can do it, so that when they do get the guy, and they arrest him, and he goes to trial, they're not going to have to work hard with the defense to get a favorable conviction and sentencing. The more you have, the less you have to worry about down the line.
It's a scary thought that he could have become a cop and that would have made it even easier for him to commit crimes, because he can look up DMV records. Easier to kidnap people and gain entry into homes under the guise of a police uniform. He would also have access to a gun.
Y'all are wrong for this headline.
#HEYJB come get ya News Nation girl bc this title is NOT "routed in reality." Unreal. Smh.
Exactly
They had the DNA but didn’t match it to anything until they take rubbish from his parents home at Xmas time. That’s why they couldn’t arrest him.
The DNA took time to come back and then they could compare it to the trash & finally had more than the circumstantial case.
He wasn’t in the system. Good for the FBI.
@@MareRS357 So are you in the fbi data base? Then why the F should he be? He had no priors. Are you a Russian? You want everyone fingerprinted? DNA? You go first, comrade.
Why didn't they get dna from around his apartment
@@MeganMcCune Yes it confused me..DNA at scene..put into Genealogy thing n got a match I heard@!Some relative.Then his aprtmnt but got it from trash.! Any result is cool though LE have been awesome. I pray they have more DNA than the Sheath though if BK Defense is onto it..
He lived close to the scene, this was on every news channel. He knew they were looking for the car and yet if he's innocent as he says he didn't try to give the police the car and let it be cleared. He's knew he was guilty.
What I've always said is that a murderer will usually make small errors that'll lead to them getting caught. I'm not saying he is or isn't one but I don't want to jump to conclusions. Also, he looks familiar to me. I think he looks like a famous actor to me.
Sorry is the word you're looking for Ashley. And if you can't say sorry, please forgive me would be next in line
Sucks that he was at the end of all that schooling. His dad seemed so proud of his boy and looked like he could really get some kind of help from a successful son..
Well, no, they did have a license plate--they had stopped it twice, once in ID and once in WA. How many white elantras in that area got stopped by police for traffic violations in the previous 3 months?
I honestly feel sorry for his parents It would have to be a shock as apparent myself To be told that you raised a murderer. You just can't turn your feelings off for your kid overnight is it that would just be something that I wouldn't want to deal with. I feel sorry for the other parents too but I almost think it would be easier to lose your child than to have to see him go through dad and question yourself what you did wrong.
It must be awful and I think they will be in denial for awhile. I hope people are kind to them and give them time to see what is laid out before them.
Maybe he didn't do it
I can't imagine bringing that level of shame unto my parents that's ungrateful af
@@777zebo omg....he did it alright!!
What? Grammar isn't clear.
The police were holding details of the roommate being a witness. I am sure they have more info they are holding for the courts.
It's shocking how stupid he was with things knowing he was in school for criminology
I had the exact same question, on some level did he want to be caught?
Can you imagine if he committed some single murders previous to this as there is some unsolved nighttime sleeping slashings near where he lives that are unsolved..I hope someday they're solved. I wonder if he didn't expect there to be at least 4 ppl there he would need to kill & some were awake. Its possible he did this before & expected a quick get in & out scenario as he may have gotten away with it before.
I wonder why the woman who saw him in the house was spared. Thank goodness she was smart to act fast, shut the door and lock it.
I can't help wondering the same. Do many times, crime escalates. How rare would it be, if this were his first time to kill? I can't help thinking he has killed before, and escalated to this particular crime.
Maybe torture n killed animals before. Criminals start off with petty crimes and work their way up to more serious offense. Don’t start off with car jacking or arm robbery.
@@MrJLee-ri3so a dog was skinned and killed not far from their house recently before their murders ... some ppl dont think he did it , cause he is vegan and didnt kill kaylees dog.
If you still don´t understand why "it took so long" (it didn´t) then maybe you should start to listen to your expert guests who had to answer the same questions over and over again.
Jesus yes, so true.
can't get over the roommate not calling the police after seeing him in the house 😱so scary
With a mask on no less.
They see strangers in the house all the time. How serious would you take it if a dude in a mask the month after Halloween is seen leaving your party house. Are you literally gonna think? “Welp I bet he killed my roommates let me call the cops”
The perpetrator places an active tracking device(i.e., "cellular/mobile phone") in his vehicle then consciously turns it off while he's committing the crime only to then reactivate it after he's completed his mission. It's safe to say that the dude was not in his 'right mind' if ever he was in possession of such to begin with
Just found out that one of Bryan's sisters starred in a Hollywood horror flick about students getting hacked to death in their beds ... so similar to what happened in Idaho ...
If you find out the name of the movie, please let me know. Thanks.
Really? What is the name of the flick?
So? His sister has nothing to do with this. We should leave his family alone.
Liar
What movie?
Tip my hat to the Idaho authorities,and across the country ! Prayers to the families and survivor's ...I hope Idaho uses their death penalty .......
He pulled up to the house at 4:04 and left at 4:20. I can’t comprehend how quickly he had to have moved to manage to get in the house, commit 4 horrific murders and get out of there so quick.
He was in a frenzy
Because he is inocent, no connection, no stalking, nothing.
Paul Holes appears to be a very impressive man, knowledgeable in unthinkable, unimaginable, heinous, criminal actions and habits. I would appreciate hearing more of his thoughts on this case as it unfolds. I have subscribed and I hope to hear that he is coming back and when so I can watch.
Definitely read his books. 👍🏻
HIS LAST NAME IS WHAT I CALL MY WIFE!
Paul Holes stupidly thought that the East Area Rapist and the Visalia Ransacker were NOT one and the same, even though they had similar modus operendis. He didn't take down Joseph Deangelo, a genetic genealogist did.
@@ReneyHernandez your marriage is CURSED
And he is pretty handsome for a 60ish year old dude.
Listening to Banfield it makes it clear why she is NOT practising law anymore, thank goodness!
Painful!!!
Listening to you makes us understand why you could never be a lawyer.
@@bambooprincess3495 she never was.
@@bambooprincess3495 she wasn't. She does not have a law degree. She has hosted legal shows, but as a journalist and not an attorney.
@@bambooprincess3495 just curious, where did she pass the bar, and where was she practicing law?
*Half* of all murders in the USA go *unsolved.* This accusation that the Moscow police are somehow taking too long in solving a *quadruple* homicide in under two months in a town that rarely has a homicide is insulting and ignorant. I believe this idea comes from people expecting real life to unfold in a neat hour like it's a television drama. It isn't, and the fact they've even narrowed this down to a suspect let alone have charges and the suspect in custody already is amazing and statistically unlikely. Then this woman actually said something along the lines of 'they knew the person had "bushy eyebrows" and *might* drive a white car' like that should've solved a quadruple homicide in 48 hours is so ridiculous.
Watching Ashley's negativity coupled with cluelessness is becoming a waste of our precious time.
The crime occurred withn the space of 30 minutes, how do you kill FOUR people, commit a sex crime, and get away in that time?!
exactly!!
He might be a two pump chump. You never know.
some ppl can only last 30 seconds so lmao
More interesting is how the surviving witness didn't have to use the bathroom for 10 hours after being out
I've had sex with 4 people in 30 minutes
I totally get what he is saying. I think that he found one of the girls attractive or all of them, then he started targeting the house and trying to figure out how to commit the crime. It was a residential area so him driving through there that often is a sign that he was scoping things out. The knife holder is also key evidence.
It's very strange he left a knife holder there.
Shun…..Really.
@@janparchanski9242 Not strange at all, after killing four people. He didn't realize he'd dropped it, or couldn't find it, and only was thinking about getting away from the scene.
I think it was Maddie he linked up with in his head, she worked at the restaurant and they served vegan food, he may have went there and tried it and met them , Maddie could have explained the menu options and it struck a conversation.. he also was known at another bar to get beer only so he could have went to Maddie restaurant and began his victim story.. I was a server and know how easy it is to talk with others, especially if you talk with them about something your interested and passionate about, I had a guy that stocked me and looking back at it is chilling.. he only ordered a diet coke and would come in 2 times a week on my shift, he would leave a 30 dollar tip each time, he only maintained small talk and would go within an HR.. it was a 2 story pool hall and we served food. He was older but blended in with younger people to chat and then exit. When I would see him I was drawn to him because of the tip. Bryan could have done the same grooming.. it's slow and low profile, this guy would end up letting me tell him my personal drama as I was in need of making money to go back and get my children from an abusive relationships, I would keep it short and he would play the quiet type, he maintained his tips and time in the bar , one day he bought me a brand new off the lot car and surprised me, he put 500 cash in my hand paid my hotel bill where I lived and told me to go get my children and bring them back. I was 21 and so neive.. I got stuck in the state my children where in as police where called and I had to them go to court, I called him and explained.. listen I didn't even know his last name, where he lived I was a pot smoker, I drank at work I took seductive pictures and was popular with males. I had a sugar daddy and he continued without any sex, no kissing no sexual talk on phone to lavish me with 5000 a mth and cars trucks apartments, court bills .
I road it til the wheels fell off to my shame of 5 yrs.
I'm telling you this because I see all these girls and how being a tease and putting pictures of parties and getting drunk and smoking weed, taking pills, my home was like their home and I wasn't even in college, and I had to my shame 2 children in my care. The things you do in sin create more sin and your open landing strip for Satan to sift you and bring other demons in. There are way more things that these students did that may never be told but I see right into there cover up with there parents approval and financial support and applause on all there seductive pictures and parties.. they helped this night happen in major ways.. THAT'S THE REALITY.. LETS STAY AWAKE, REPENT
AND FEAR GOD BECAUSE:
1 Peter 5:8
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”
@@beccagee5905 To me it is, if he's as smart as he thinks ( which he obviously isn't ) then why would he take a knife holder with him at all ? To lose it later ? Doesn't make much sense.
If my Dad was alive to see this , He would say he deserves the same punishment !!!! I say he will answer for what he did in this life and the next one !!! prayers to the family's