It's sickening me to see people are saying "he was bullied throughout his life, if he wasn't bullied in life, maybe those people would still be alive" well that don't justify his action and what a 28 years old PHD did. He is 28 years old, PHD, again PHD student who studied CRIMINAL especially other serial killers like BTK and Ted Bundy throughout his entire adult or school years. Dude know what he was doing. I am 28 years old as well, a refugee from Southeast Asia. I'm now living in the US. I came to US when I was 9, skinny, small, short with no English, no friends and no nothing. I was bullied everyday in school from 6th grade to 12th grade. If I were to go out do something bad, then it's the people who bullied me 15 years ago fault?? Dude is pure evil and safe to say he is a serial killer in the making, glad he is caught. He thought we are still in the 70s during Ted Bundy, BTK time
I don’t think that it was the bullies made him do It. It’s 100 percent his fault. That being says the bullying didn’t help and to be honest it would probably of helped if someone helped him. Advocation for being anti bullying can only be postive
@@jamesfranklin9858 his obsession with other serial killers like Ted Bundy are what led him to this. He studied and knew everything about them and there is only 1 thing left to do which is to take action to try to be like them. You know what obsession could lead a person too sometimes. He knew and chose what he wanted to study. He went to school and became a PDH student but couldn't get help himself? All of a sudden he finally got help and wore a suicide prevention vest when he got back to PA after murdering 4 innocent people? Like you said 100% on him.
That is a definite possibility. Or he thought I'll just leave. I mean all she can say is ''it was a white man, quite tall' and given that they would have expected it to be a white man, the only thing she could give them was that he was tall. (and the bushy eyebrows was a bonus) but I mean that could have been his thinking. He was probably tired.
My theory - He drove back to search for the knife sheath. Stop giving him so much credit. He didn't drive back (with his phone on) to watch the aftermath. This isn't a film. He panicked because of what he left behind and didn't even think about his phone being on while driving back. He was trying to figure out where he dropped the biggest piece of evidence. Unfortunately he left it where he started the killings. Next to Maddie's body (on the 3rd floor) the hardest level to get to inside of the home. He knew what he left behind and went to try to retrieve it before the scene was discovered but he didn't exit his vehicle because him searching inside everywhere would've been too risky, especially with the sun already in the sky and with him wearing all black? Not a good mixture. He didn't know there were survivors which is why Moscow PD claimed that both survivors "were sleeping through the murders" to throw him off and it worked. These former FBI agents are really into film director mode lol. And for the weirdos asking "why didn't anyone scream" it's hard to scream after someone stabs your respiratory system. You can't scream when blood is filling your lungs and throat after a stab or gunshot in those vital areas. So that's why no one "screamed" like in a horror film. Dylan not letting him know that she saw him was incredibly smart because she would be dead if she screamed and gave up her position. Her letting him leave didn't make a difference in the outcome anyway because he stabbed main arteries and a critical element to human life. The respiratory system. Him leaving the sheath at the scene is like me leaving my wallet at home or someone else's house. I speed away and not think about it, then get home and realize I might've left it where I just was recently. Then I don't think when I head back to get it because im in such of a rush 🤣 If he saw Dylan staring at him, he wouldn't have drove back with his cell phone on. So he did not see her looking at him when he walked out into the night. It was his very first time and he made an F at being a murderer because he left too many loose ends
Well if that's the case, then why didn't he go back inside and get it if the cops weren't there yet and everything was quiet? And your theory that he was still dressed all in black at 9 a.m. doesn't make much sense either. The killing happened a little after 4 a.m. He was back driving by at a little after 9 a.m. Do you really think he would still be wearing the same BLOODY black clothes FIVE hours later and go back to the scene in the same BLOODY black clothes? Even if he didn't get out of the car that would be completely idiotic given the fact that he seems like a terrible driver and gets pulled over a lot. Just what would a cop do or him say if he gets pulled over for something like speeding and he is covered in blood?? Edit: for all of you responding that he didn't go inside because it was daylight...that still doesn't make sense. He left his apartment at WSU after the sun was already up so it's not like the sun came up early and surprised him. He didn't attempt to park..he just drove by. I think LE did a great job on this case and all of the retired cops, FBI, private investigators etc. know way more than any of us keyboard warriors. Please give them some credit
It’s hard to say for sure. If he realized it was missing, he might’ve tried to go back for that reason. He probably could’ve gone back in and retrieved it at 9:00 in the morning, but he didn’t for whatever reason.
@@Stacey0909 yeah tunnel vision and adrenaline dumps are real things. There is a huge possibility he went into flight mode due to exhaustion along with the things I mentioned above.
Me too. I think he forgot all about that sheath. Id say he had already ditched his clothes and the knife and cleaned up. I think that when he was arrested in PE he was a lil arrogant having a scheme in his head thinking still he was going to get away with it. I say that because after he was back in Moscow and learned they had his dna from the sheath of the knife that arrogance that i seen on him in PE now seems totally deflated. Its not like he wouldve went back in the house like oops i forgot this. Going back for the sheath makes no sense what so ever. He went back to see the chaos he caused thinking somebody shouldve found them by then. If cops wouldve been there he probably wouldve started jogging and let cops ask him questions or ask if theres any way he could help since he has a Phd. Its hard telling. Guy looks like hes on meth or something.
I don’t think he came back to watch his fruits of his action. I think he realized that the knife sheath was in the house and debated going back in for it or not..
No I feel like speed limits are so low that most people find it extremely hard to do 55 mph on a freeway and they are not the brightest or busiest cops, IMO
Personally, I like thinking of him in a panic when he realizes he has misplaced the sheath, whether that was while he was still in the house or later on. There's a reason those things fit on your belt. It's hard to use a knife and hold the sheath at the same time. She just opened the door a crack, her common sense was overriding wanting to know what was going on. She opened the door but knew she should not leave the relative safety of her room and she was right, there would have been 5 bodies instead of 4. He had the knife in his hand unless he stashed it somewhere in the house where he believed it would be thrown away before being found. Edit: Unless he threw the sheath down as a decoy but his DNA is on it, which puts him at the scene of the crime.
The only "OCD" that's been described is him insisting on not eating from cookware used to cook meat. That's not OCD, that's just somewhat common vegan nuttery.
This is so horrifying that these kids were out having a great night, went home to be with their friends, and were murdered. It is so absolutely disgusting that that monster could do this to them.
Yes - and my advice to college students would be choose to live in a house with good locks on outside doors, locks on your bedroon, security lights, maybe cameras and become a trained gun owner. And be strict about keeping doors locked and who can be in the house. If Dylan had a gun she could've shot the pos. All you can do is try to make yourself less of a target, and BK knew they were easy targets. It's not all that random. A bit of self-selecting. This is just me but if I was a tiny young hot woman - I might get a house with all men. First, they're harder targets for an attack and second a house of five or six tiny attractive women is going to attract the freaks the most. That's the bit I hate - was the slider unlocked? Even if not - he got and then what, walked right into bedrooms. If the slider is locked and everyone is in a locked bedroom - then how does his plan turn out? An alarm or an actual loud barking guard dog would've changed this. We don't know who else he stalked if anyone. Maybe he looked at other people and decided they were too high risk. As others have said - even the way the house sits near tree cover and other houses makes it more inviting. No-one can see in the back easily or the side of the XK bedroom.
I refuse to live in fear ! Men need to learn to not kill us !! It’s NOT our fault ! Lock the crazies up before they commit murder! Even , if a door is locked men get in !! Stop, blaming the victim
u refuse to live in fear I hope to god u are being sarcastic right now?? and women attack and kill too the Fallen world is dangerous everywhere u look from mountain lions to scorpions to black widow spiders to death from ticks or strep throat to cancer to dog attacks to anything . please wake up everywhere u look it is dangerous u are delusional and need to grow up and wake up and start protecting ureself and getting a gun. it's people like u that go for a walk in the woods without a handgun and think all will be ok, grow up !!!!
He didn't see her. Bryan's mental and physical history should provide some insight as to his actions. His parent's statement "This isn't the Bryan we know" is suspect. His parents, siblings and health professionals who have treated him throughout his lifetime should be able to help explain just why Bryan was capable of these horrific murders. They know. Perhaps this event could have be avoided and the lives of 4 + 1 individuals spared. This is a sad world...
You can't blame his family for his actions. His family was probably super proud he was studying for his PhD, and I doubt that they thought he would be willing to throw his life away like that. It's annoying to see his family being disperaged as they are by idiotic comments like yours. How is them stating that's not the person they know suspect? You're an idiot, the person they know was studying for his PhD, and by all accounts trying to make something of himself. His family is not to blame, he is the alleged murderer.
I think he went back in the daylight to see if he could find where he dropped the sheath. He also probably turned on the local news (and maybe a scanner) and couldn't understand why there was no police activity yet at 9am.
He probably shit himself when he realized he didn’t have the sheath. My guess is he put the knife into a plastic bag to dispose of later and didn’t think of the sheath, realizing later that he either dropped on his way inside or outside of the house.
There is the possibility that Mr. Kohberger doesn't own a USMC Knife and the sheaf is not his. Perhaps the knife belonged to one of the house occupants. It was always there.
He went back panicked about his missing sheath. He was probably hoping he dropped it outside somewhere near the area. He was hoping the last place he dropped it was inside and was weighing in if he could go back in or not.
It wasn’t orchestrated. The state of Indiana just LOVES out of state license plates. You could be the slowest one on the road and score a speeding ticket if you have an out of state plate lol
@@christinaburns2023 I’m still cracking up because of how nosey he gets when looking for that next piece of information. You just see a camera moving towards the khoebergers house “this is private property!!!” Says father khoeberger (probably with a shotgun in hand) On a killers porch at night Entin says “I’m with the media??” 😂
@@Flygirl37 so he just committed a quadruple murder and looks at a living victim standing there while leaving and you are simple minded enough to think that he would have just leave lol
She might have thought he looked at her. Also, you have no idea of the lighting in the room. It could have been fairly dark and he didn't see her because he wasn't looking for another person.
He drove back because it hadn’t been reported on the news yet… he was checking why he wasn’t seeing his “work” being reported all over the tv & internet
I think he got spooked and thought the surviving roommate may have already called 911 from hearing the dog barking and hearing the cries along with someone saying “someone’s here” so he didn’t think he had time to kill her and he got the hell out of there leaving the sheath in a panic. Which I still think he killed Ethan and Xana first w every intention of taking his evidence upstairs to the next killings (Maddie and Kaylee) and making sure he took the sheath w the knife to dispose of it when done. That’s why I think he panicked and he could’ve heard the roommate on 2nd floor open or close her door. I mean, why would he take that chance and leave Xana in her room alive w Ethan after getting door dash and being on Tiktok and them possibly hearing or seeing the commotion upstairs if he went up there first. Just disgusting how he came back knowing there was 4 dead bodies in there and the cops hadn’t been called yet. He probably wondered why esp being that one surviving roommate he thought maybe had called the cops when he was committing the crimes and again that’s why he didn’t harm her. He may have also thought about going back in to get the sheath OR finishing her off. Who knows but I wouldn’t put anything past this sick deranged individual.
Your theory makes the most sense, though that audio of the murders that was leaked a day ago has Maddie and Kaylee getting killed first and Ethan getting killed last so I am not sure if it was just edited that way or what order everything happened in. It makes no sense killing Maddie and Kaylee first which some well respected criminal profilers agree with. Apparently Kaylee got it the worst with over 66 stab wounds and the bones in her face were completely broken according to some source that was at the crime scene. Hence why her dad absolutely wants Bryan to get the death penalty no matter what.
@SoySauce HairDye I believe the girls were first because Kaylee has the most vicious attack, that takes energy, and would happen early on. The couple was done fast and efficiently.
I think BK didn't anticipate there would be more than one person in each bedroom. Since two more bedrooms on the bottom of the house had closed doors, he realized he might have to kill four more people, two of which might be men.
I agree, I dont think this was planned out like people think it was. Makes no sence to attack a house with 6 people living in there. There's a chance he kind of panicked, thought cops were on the way and thought he had to get out of there why he could. Murdering another person, he could get caught red handed.
It is not normal to don’t call immediately the police and to don’t enter the rooms from the victims to see if everything is alright! This is also a criminal so the inmates needs to be arrested because there is no excuse for having neglect to call the police! Maybe some of the 4 victims would have been alive if they did! And if the inmate say it is because o a shock to don’t have call the police that’s non sense! A shock happens when they see committing the murder but not only seeing a person in the house! If they were shocked they couldn’t stay any minute longer in that crime scene! If something like that - seeing a dangerous person in my house, would happen, I would not lock my self in a room but I would immediately leave my own house. I would wait until I am sure that the dangerous person left my property and then I would leave my house because I wouldn’t support to stay in it longer! And I would run in the next police station asking for help!! This two survivors has to go in jail too!!! They waited so long like making sure that the 4 victims were dead! Maybe because they lay the murder in? We don’t know but IT IS A NORMAL INSTINCT TO RUN TO HELP, even in a dangerous situation and even it would costs your life!
I doubt he has seen the witness. He came in there to murder one girl. Found her laying in bed with her best friend, so he decided to end both their lives (to not leave any witnesses). He then decided to leave but ran into the girl and her boyfriend on the 2nd floor. He had to kill them, because a dead person can't tell on him anymore. He then left the scene. If he had seen the witness, there would've been 5 dead bodies. Very sad case, but I'm glad the guy is caught. I'm going with the police chief on this, they have their guy!!!
Pause 0:05 I saw that motion hearing. He is looking at the person at the podium there not his attorney. The video works better than pictures. The video is more accurate, pictures are not accurate that is why Judge Judge should never have removed the cameras from the court because of false comments people make reading images the wrong way.
I don't think he planned this out as much as people think he did. Why would your target be a house of 6 people. I'm thinking he didn't know there was 6 people in the house. Also, once the killing started I would think everything would be hectic, all plans thrown out the window. I'm thinking he was a jealous stalker, he seen her come home, and went into a rage and decided to do this spur of the moment. I think the reason he was studying what he was studying was because he knew he had the urge to kill inside him, probably wanted to know the reason why.
That's not why he went back. He definitely was thinking on that knife sheath that he left behind. He probably didn't realize it came off,. Which it might have if Maddie fought back and ripped off his belt. He didn't bother to holster it again just went straight to Xana's room knife in hand.
Yeah, I think he is too and Maddie or Kaylee was his original target but didn't expect the other three to be there and see him, and they unfortunately became victims of his too. The situation didn't go as expected for him, and all the media attention and police resources put into solving this quadruple homicide led to him being relatively quickly caught and arrested.
And I feel so horrible for the roommate that survived. She must have horrible survivor's guilt and trauma from being part of that. I can't even imagine what that must have been like 😔💔
Either she was drunk and/or high and didn't want to get in trouble or, worse, she knew the killer. There is no justification for her seeing a cold blooded killer and then going back to sleep.
@@draganavulovic9779 man everyone is speculating about why things happened the way they did. Maybe wait to hear her side of the story before making judgment. Most of you are judging her based on hypotheticals. Not facts.
Concerning him coming back to the house nearly 5 hrs later. He had to know it didn't get reported because let's imagine D.M. did call much sooner then the news would've broken while he was back at his apartment I imagine. I'm also very curious to know if he had a police scanner app on his phone too because that could be another way he'd find out. Does anyone think he came back to possibly retrieve the sheath because he knew it wasn't reported to cops yet but realized it'd just be too risky???
One question I have is without the sheath where did he put the bloody knife on his body on the way out because DM did not mention him carrying the knife in his hand? He knew he didn't have the sheath after the stabbings but with the place being dark didn't hang around to look for it.
Al these excuses for the roommate who heard 4 people slaughtered,opened her door multiple times,saw a man in a mask and managed to lock herself in and stay safe til midday when she decided to call friends Not even the police. Friends. She did nothing Even the dog barked and did more than her.
BK was in rehab for HEROIN addiction. At "PARTY HOUSE" 13 times for guess what: HEROIN...Witness sees intruder, hears crying, loud barking, noises and no 911 police call for 10 hours because they are DEALERS hiding DRUGS!..... Coroner refused to do drug toxicology on dead victims!?.....Only the media can force the truth out of this
He wasn't too exhausted , its just that she was no threat, now if she had started screaming then maybe he would of done something , this is what i heard from a retired sheriff sharing on his post.
yeh, those were my thoughts, she saw him, but all she could say was ''it was a white man''. They would have been expecting that. So in theory the fact that she saw him didn't give any extra information if he was not expecting to be caught. As it happens she did give extra information. the ''or taller'' and bushy eyebrows sound like it was *him* that she saw indeed.
Who knows what the lighting was like? Maybe the main room on the 2nd floor was fairly dark and her bedroom was dark, so he just didn't see her because he wasn't looking for another person. Nothing has indicated the house had all the lights on.
No. I disagree. When he left and disposed of the weapon, he realized that he’d left the sheath at the scene. He was trying to get back in to recover that sheath, I think. I totally agree with Brian.
What I don't get about the roommate is she didn't know what happened in the house before she saw Bryan but yet she was frozen in fear and locked herself in her room she didn't think to check on her friends after he left or she didn't think he left or what? And when she called it in she said her friend was unconscious??? It's all Supercross weird 😕
I think he went back because he was baffled as to why there was no news about the murders. After all, he was seen and expected the police to be called right away.
If someone was really a genius or brilliant in criminology they would have had the foresight to contact a friend or family member or a peer about their idea to kill people, in order to keep it from happening.
It's too bad the ME made the comments she did about the victims being asleep. That obviously wasn't true and the Defense can use it to undermine her testamony.
Roommate- Dylan M - was in one of the 2nd floor bedrooms. Victims Xana & boy friend, Ethan Chapin, were in the other bedroom, the living area/kitchen with sliding doors separated the 2 bedrooms. 1st floor roommate evidently was never aware of what happened, as far as we know at this time. Top floor, 3rd, had Madison & Kaylee.
Sliding doors didn't separate the 2nd floor bedrooms, doofus. The rooms were in diagonal corners of that floor. Look at the floor plans that were shown hundreds of times. Stop lying when you don't know what your talking about. Your are the stupid people that get incorrect rumors started.
He probably had no idea where he lost it. I'd think going back could only make it more likely he got caugh. If there was no DNA on the sheath, what was there to worry about? He wore gloves and didn't think there was DNA on it.
@@leahwhiteley5164 Nothing reasonable in this story. She saw a masked intruder, was shocked and afraid and then locked herself in her room without checking on her mates or calling the police. Does that seem like a perfectly reasonable conduct to you, college student or not?
I don't mean to judge the roommate, but I still can't wrap my head around why she waited until noon to contact the authorities? That is just weird to me, but I've never been in her position...
Wow my uncle who's a retired State Trooper will feel vindicated now. He said last week that the first stop was planned and rehearsed collaborating what this man just said > being that Sheriff officers never stop cars on the interstate unless it's a blatantly obvious dangerous traffic offense or if they are looking for a wanted criminal or suspicious car.
I live in Ohio and when I would go to Chicago to visit family I would always get stopped in Indiana lol. It was always for the smallest thing and the one time it started snowing when I reached Indiana on my way home back from Chi. I was told he pulled me over bc I was going too slow but the snow plus the wind made the roads terrible.
@@genesmith3582 The FBI would have had him under surveillance as he drove to PA - they had already ID’ed him and matched him to DM’s description. Perhaps they actually wanted to spook him into further incriminating himself by fleeing towards Canada or Mexico, or ditching the car for a rental or bus.
I hope people realize that unless they found the knife in his car or his apartment or parents house and the knife had the victims blood on it, having some scientific analysis that says the wound tracks are consistent with a Ka-Bar is almost meaningless. That knife literally has hundreds of millions if not billions of the exact same knife in existence over the last 8 decades or so, it is a military weapon dating back to WW2 and was produced by multiple companies under government contracts besides the actual name brand Ka-Bar ones and have been sold at every Army Surplus Store Gun and Knife Shows countless online retailers as well as most brick and mortar sporting goods/ outdoors stores. Yes a sheath with his DNA was found at the scene but the individual blade won’t be able to be matched to the wounds like on an episode of CSI on TV unless they found the blade with blood on it. Unfortunately this is quite literally the most common fixed blade combat knife worldwide and with that many decades of being manufactured it would be like trying to find 1 specific sewing needle in a mountain of completely identical sewing needles.
@@mikewood7597 who pays $300 for a knife that you can get brand new for like $75 last time I bought one several years ago so I’m assuming maybe $100 now
@@mikewood7597 there are old ones as they date back to before WW2 but they are literally unchanged. Also the picture of the sheath that was shown in the news looked like the commercial version but maybe it wasn’t the one actually recovered
Because the whole narrative of him being smart is from the media assuming so because he has a degree and is in school. I’m in school, and you don’t necessarily have to be a genius to finish it. He just liked criminology a lot and kept going back to class for it, he is an arrogant dummy who probably cheated on test
That description that Chacon gave of how/why Kohberger just walked by surviving roommate sounds very good and very plausible. Expressed that idea well. I also still think the stops were planned, just I guess not by FBI. The were just too perfect. Maybe the first stop indicated they saw wounds on Kohberger and other stop just had to see it. In second stop also looked like they maybe got DNA from license.
It doesn't sound plausible when immediately after they mention he came back hours later. Expecting to see police activity. Why would you go there knowing someone there, ALIVE, saw you, and can simply point at you.
@@smugnick5458 She didn't point him out, did she? From what I remember from the only thing released, the PCA, she simply gave a description. Please correct me; if, I'm wrong.
The nightmare for the victims families is just beginning. If the suspect is the killer, and does not plead guilty…….at trial it’ll be known how graphic the killings were
@@mtio2807 many people will be mentally disturbed by the case I can assure that. It is unfortunate that they will not be offered therapy after this.. they will have to seek treatment themselves. Edit : While it is not typical for therapy to be provided specifically for PTSD resulting from jury duty, some courts do offer support services for jurors who are struggling emotionally. These may include access to counseling or other mental health resources.
people that behave like this were likely abused as children. Not to say we should feel sorry for this piece of shit but i also wouldn't consider his parents anywhere near the parents of the victims.
If he was so exhausted then why did he keep coming back? I’m not buying your explanation. I’m sure there was a huge adrenaline rush going on with him. You don’t leave witnesses. So’ try that bull story with someone else
Just curious..Do we know if there was a blood trail? Like prints/trail outside of the one they found(vans like). how could he have not been soaked. Wonder if he would've had his seats/turn signal, steering wheel all covered on plastic. Seems Iike coming back, heck even driving away wouldn’t chance being covered in biological material. And has anyone mentioned(sure they have) but possibly a driver? Making all those passes by? Where was his dad then?
There was a blood trail following out to the sliding glass door he left, but the footprints of his bloody shoes could only be seen using one of those tools that shows blood that isn't visible to the naked eye. I don't think there is any chance he had a getaway driver. I doubt his dad knew he was the killer until he was arrested. If he told his parents, he wouldn't have been sneaking around their neighborhood at 4 in the morning throwing away evidence from the crime in his parent's neighborhood on Christmas night.
@@soysaucehairdye7869 wow, thanks for response! I jusst saw that about the footprint and luminol and someone asking, how, why? As if someone had time to clean it up? And guess we will find out during trial or has it been said what evidence of crime was being thrown away? Or just the sus act of neighbors bins at 4am? Thanks again!
I was right about the IN traffic stops not being orchestrated by the FBI. Would have been really dumb to pull him over twice in less than a couple of hours. The two IN cops knew about the hunt for the white Elantra so when they saw a white Elantra with WA plates they independently concocted a bogus traffic violation to pull him over so they could claim it was a legit stop...standard cop procedure..
No, you weren't. They quite literally do not admit that these were orchestrated. In fact, orchestrating them seems like a pretty bad idea. We'll see. And no, not "standard cop procedure," lmao. Which is it, Ken, was it "orchestrated by the FBI" or "concocted by two Indiana cops" lol Just watch, don't play armchair detective
Be careful not to give this guy too much coverage. The main reason every single murderer commits a crime like this is because they go from nobodies to newfound fame and notoriety. That's the common denominator they all have. BTK, Zodiac, Golden State, Bundy, Unabomber on down the line.
How about discussing the murders w their son. As he was a criminal justice major and the crime was just a couple of miles from where he lived…then finding out the police are looking for the same type car their son drives . You’d prob have a sick feeling in your stomach w this info alone…
I don’t understand how is it the prison system is catering to his vegan needs - when the 4 victims will never have dinner with their families again ever !!
It's sickening me to see people are saying "he was bullied throughout his life, if he wasn't bullied in life, maybe those people would still be alive" well that don't justify his action and what a 28 years old PHD did. He is 28 years old, PHD, again PHD student who studied CRIMINAL especially other serial killers like BTK and Ted Bundy throughout his entire adult or school years. Dude know what he was doing.
I am 28 years old as well, a refugee from Southeast Asia. I'm now living in the US. I came to US when I was 9, skinny, small, short with no English, no friends and no nothing. I was bullied everyday in school from 6th grade to 12th grade. If I were to go out do something bad, then it's the people who bullied me 15 years ago fault??
Dude is pure evil and safe to say he is a serial killer in the making, glad he is caught. He thought we are still in the 70s during Ted Bundy, BTK time
I don’t think that it was the bullies made him do
It. It’s 100 percent his fault. That being says the bullying didn’t help and to be honest it would probably of helped if someone helped him. Advocation for being anti bullying can only be postive
Yea a lot of bullied people don't become murderers. It's ridiculous to find excuses for people like this guy
@@jamesfranklin9858 his obsession with other serial killers like Ted Bundy are what led him to this. He studied and knew everything about them and there is only 1 thing left to do which is to take action to try to be like them. You know what obsession could lead a person too sometimes.
He knew and chose what he wanted to study. He went to school and became a PDH student but couldn't get help himself? All of a sudden he finally got help and wore a suicide prevention vest when he got back to PA after murdering 4 innocent people? Like you said 100% on him.
I haven’t seen anyone blame the bullying
You are so right. Let’s stop making excuses for evil!
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose" - Mike Tyson.
Or stabbed apparently
Damn
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Good one
Its mouth actually ... but good quote just the same
Brian Entin, you have done a fantastic job covering and reporting on this story. Thank you for all you do.
Another expert is thinking too complex. I say he didn’t see her. That makes more sense. She’s a witness
Witness to what?? She heard the dog, heard a man say he’s going to help, and saw A PERSON (not a man or woman) with “bushy eyebrows
Agree 100% & if he did see her she would have been carved to death
@@mtio2807 she saw him. That's a witness that can identify him. I bet the prosecutor calls her a witness.
That is a definite possibility. Or he thought I'll just leave. I mean all she can say is ''it was a white man, quite tall' and given that they would have expected it to be a white man, the only thing she could give them was that he was tall. (and the bushy eyebrows was a bonus) but I mean that could have been his thinking. He was probably tired.
@GSP UFC and stuff Stop, this shit is cringe and childish
My theory - He drove back to search for the knife sheath. Stop giving him so much credit. He didn't drive back (with his phone on) to watch the aftermath. This isn't a film. He panicked because of what he left behind and didn't even think about his phone being on while driving back. He was trying to figure out where he dropped the biggest piece of evidence. Unfortunately he left it where he started the killings. Next to Maddie's body (on the 3rd floor) the hardest level to get to inside of the home. He knew what he left behind and went to try to retrieve it before the scene was discovered but he didn't exit his vehicle because him searching inside everywhere would've been too risky, especially with the sun already in the sky and with him wearing all black? Not a good mixture. He didn't know there were survivors which is why Moscow PD claimed that both survivors "were sleeping through the murders" to throw him off and it worked. These former FBI agents are really into film director mode lol. And for the weirdos asking "why didn't anyone scream" it's hard to scream after someone stabs your respiratory system. You can't scream when blood is filling your lungs and throat after a stab or gunshot in those vital areas. So that's why no one "screamed" like in a horror film. Dylan not letting him know that she saw him was incredibly smart because she would be dead if she screamed and gave up her position. Her letting him leave didn't make a difference in the outcome anyway because he stabbed main arteries and a critical element to human life. The respiratory system. Him leaving the sheath at the scene is like me leaving my wallet at home or someone else's house. I speed away and not think about it, then get home and realize I might've left it where I just was recently. Then I don't think when I head back to get it because im in such of a rush 🤣 If he saw Dylan staring at him, he wouldn't have drove back with his cell phone on. So he did not see her looking at him when he walked out into the night. It was his very first time and he made an F at being a murderer because he left too many loose ends
There's still the real possibility he didn't see her, correct?
Well if that's the case, then why didn't he go back inside and get it if the cops weren't there yet and everything was quiet? And your theory that he was still dressed all in black at 9 a.m. doesn't make much sense either. The killing happened a little after 4 a.m. He was back driving by at a little after 9 a.m. Do you really think he would still be wearing the same BLOODY black clothes FIVE hours later and go back to the scene in the same BLOODY black clothes? Even if he didn't get out of the car that would be completely idiotic given the fact that he seems like a terrible driver and gets pulled over a lot. Just what would a cop do or him say if he gets pulled over for something like speeding and he is covered in blood??
Edit: for all of you responding that he didn't go inside because it was daylight...that still doesn't make sense. He left his apartment at WSU after the sun was already up so it's not like the sun came up early and surprised him. He didn't attempt to park..he just drove by. I think LE did a great job on this case and all of the retired cops, FBI, private investigators etc. know way more than any of us keyboard warriors. Please give them some credit
You have your version, they have theirs. Nobody knows but Khoberger why he went back🤷
It’s hard to say for sure. If he realized it was missing, he might’ve tried to go back for that reason. He probably could’ve gone back in and retrieved it at 9:00 in the morning, but he didn’t for whatever reason.
@@Stacey0909 yeah tunnel vision and adrenaline dumps are real things. There is a huge possibility he went into flight mode due to exhaustion along with the things I mentioned above.
I think he expected media coverage that morning, and when there was none, he drove by the scene to see what was going on
Me too. I think he forgot all about that sheath. Id say he had already ditched his clothes and the knife and cleaned up. I think that when he was arrested in PE he was a lil arrogant having a scheme in his head thinking still he was going to get away with it. I say that because after he was back in Moscow and learned they had his dna from the sheath of the knife that arrogance that i seen on him in PE now seems totally deflated. Its not like he wouldve went back in the house like oops i forgot this. Going back for the sheath makes no sense what so ever. He went back to see the chaos he caused thinking somebody shouldve found them by then. If cops wouldve been there he probably wouldve started jogging and let cops ask him questions or ask if theres any way he could help since he has a Phd. Its hard telling. Guy looks like hes on meth or something.
Interesting never thought of that
@@christymckee8133 what the hell is PE?
@@kingpinsmith22 serious? Its an abbrieviation for the state of Pennsylvania
@@kingpinsmith22 oh shit! I feel like a big dummy! PA and I knew that. I dont know why I thought PE. Sorry
I wonder if he went back to the location to see if he could recover the sheath.
He definitely did
Probably, but only he knows for sure. Could be either or both.
Doubtful because it’s only normal to assume there would be a bunch of cops there by then. To his surprise there wasn’t
@@Noticerofthings hes not going to risk getting caught, he went back to feed his ego and curiosity what activity was going on outside the house
@@Noticerofthings He probably had a police scanner, listening to live police broadcast feed in that area.
He was definitely under surveillance when he was pulled over. Who gets pulled over for tailgating? Plus the trooper was asking questions
They got pulled over twice in 10 minutes lol
😂
@GSP UFC and stuff sweet!!
Fbi already said they orchestrated the stops to get a better look at his hands
@@theherbpuffer Twice in 10 minutes. I bet by then he was close to soiling himself, suspecting something was going down.
I don’t think he came back to watch his fruits of his action. I think he realized that the knife sheath was in the house and debated going back in for it or not..
I am from Ohio and have driven through Indiana many time…. You will always be pulled over in Indiana on the way through. It’s just a given.
Their cops are really strict or somethin?
No I feel like speed limits are so low that most people find it extremely hard to do 55 mph on a freeway and they are not the brightest or busiest cops, IMO
@@Love4puppies wow really, 55?? Even on rural highway?
They are on the lookout for interstate drug-trafficking through Indiana.
From Michigan and driving threw Ohio is a nightmare!!
Personally, I like thinking of him in a panic when he realizes he has misplaced the sheath, whether that was while he was still in the house or later on. There's a reason those things fit on your belt. It's hard to use a knife and hold the sheath at the same time. She just opened the door a crack, her common sense was overriding wanting to know what was going on. She opened the door but knew she should not leave the relative safety of her room and she was right, there would have been 5 bodies instead of 4. He had the knife in his hand unless he stashed it somewhere in the house where he believed it would be thrown away before being found. Edit: Unless he threw the sheath down as a decoy but his DNA is on it, which puts him at the scene of the crime.
Personally, I like thinking Dylan is the killer
@@mtio2807 prove it.
White lives matter
@@bensun-ra9956 Grow up
@@mtio2807 stop
If he's not guilty why would he be moving trash from his parents house to the neighbor's house?
Very smelly trash, their own bins already full.
I sometimes dump trash in my neighbor's cans in a sneaky manner because mine is full.
But no murder weapons ....
It’s not that uncommon
This is what psychopaths do,they salivate and can’t help but go and see the horrific acts you’ve committed.
Knowing he has OCD, he must of freaked when he couldn’t find the sheath
And that has been eating his dark soul since.
The only "OCD" that's been described is him insisting on not eating from cookware used to cook meat. That's not OCD, that's just somewhat common vegan nuttery.
Yet he will beat his mean in prison
This is so horrifying that these kids were out having a great night, went home to be with their friends, and were murdered. It is so absolutely disgusting that that monster could do this to them.
Yes - and my advice to college students would be choose to live in a house with good locks on outside doors, locks on your bedroon, security lights, maybe cameras and become a trained gun owner. And be strict about keeping doors locked and who can be in the house. If Dylan had a gun she could've shot the pos.
All you can do is try to make yourself less of a target, and BK knew they were easy targets. It's not all that random. A bit of self-selecting.
This is just me but if I was a tiny young hot woman - I might get a house with all men. First, they're harder targets for an attack and second a house of five or six tiny attractive women is going to attract the freaks the most. That's the bit I hate - was the slider unlocked? Even if not - he got and then what, walked right into bedrooms. If the slider is locked and everyone is in a locked bedroom - then how does his plan turn out? An alarm or an actual loud barking guard dog would've changed this.
We don't know who else he stalked if anyone. Maybe he looked at other people and decided they were too high risk. As others have said - even the way the house sits near tree cover and other houses makes it more inviting. No-one can see in the back easily or the side of the XK bedroom.
I refuse to live in fear ! Men need to learn to not kill us !! It’s NOT our fault ! Lock the crazies up before they commit murder! Even , if a door is locked men get in !! Stop, blaming the victim
Death Penalty
u refuse to live in fear I hope to god u are being sarcastic right now?? and women attack and kill too
the Fallen world is dangerous everywhere u look from mountain lions to scorpions to black widow spiders to death from ticks or strep throat to cancer to dog attacks to anything . please wake up everywhere u look it is dangerous u are delusional and need to grow up and wake up and start protecting ureself and getting a gun. it's people like u that go for a walk in the woods without a handgun and think all will be ok, grow up !!!!
@@unoimright5153i had my share of crazyyy women.
He didn't see her. Bryan's mental and physical history should provide some insight as to his actions. His parent's statement "This isn't the Bryan we know" is suspect. His parents, siblings and health professionals who have treated him throughout his lifetime should be able to help explain just why Bryan was capable of these horrific murders. They know. Perhaps this event could have be avoided and the lives of 4 + 1 individuals spared. This is a sad world...
You can't blame his family for his actions. His family was probably super proud he was studying for his PhD, and I doubt that they thought he would be willing to throw his life away like that. It's annoying to see his family being disperaged as they are by idiotic comments like yours. How is them stating that's not the person they know suspect? You're an idiot, the person they know was studying for his PhD, and by all accounts trying to make something of himself. His family is not to blame, he is the alleged murderer.
Totally agree. Some people REFUSE to see the red flags...
@mpatm2607, I think that is very possible, but I also heard (not in the affidavit) that words were exchanged between BK and M.
I think he went back in the daylight to see if he could find where he dropped the sheath. He also probably turned on the local news (and maybe a scanner) and couldn't understand why there was no police activity yet at 9am.
Can’t believe he forgot the sheath! He was prob so happy with himself otherwise. Freak.
He probably shit himself when he realized he didn’t have the sheath. My guess is he put the knife into a plastic bag to dispose of later and didn’t think of the sheath, realizing later that he either dropped on his way inside or outside of the house.
Idk about that because anyone would assume there would be cops everywhere by then - to his surprise there wasn’t
He prob also wondered why the hell Dylan hadn’t called 911 yet!
There is the possibility that Mr. Kohberger doesn't own a USMC Knife and the sheaf is not his. Perhaps the knife belonged to one of the house occupants. It was always there.
Some people are just pure evil is scary
Not "people," MEN.
Men have really high levels of testosterone. Testosterone is the cause.
He went back panicked about his missing sheath. He was probably hoping he dropped it outside somewhere near the area. He was hoping the last place he dropped it was inside and was weighing in if he could go back in or not.
It wasn’t orchestrated. The state of Indiana just LOVES out of state license plates. You could be the slowest one on the road and score a speeding ticket if you have an out of state plate lol
@@user-op4rv3zj4c He thought you were running large amounts of drug cash.
It was
they've already admitted it was planned.
He probably drove by to see if he dropped his sheath where he parked.
Holy shit. And maybe he had already ditched the knife and knew that Dylan was in there alive and now he couldn’t kill her!
That could be.
@@marcopolo-xj4yw Stop with this lame shit.
@@davemccombs why are you reading this thread which is speculation and theory? Look at something else.
Big thumbs up 👍🏻to police sheriff fbi for catching the loser who murdered 4 innocent students for no reason
Praying these victims and they’re families ect get justice . This is horrific
What’s Justice when your children are murdered ? It’s not going to change a damn thing for them
Knowing the killer is in prison or dead is justice. It’s the only thing the parents have any hope for now
This video is a life. There was no fruit at the crime scene and he didn’t leave any fruit behind nor carried Any fruit based products.
They will. They got the dude.
Brian Entin never gets tired lol
Just love him, he is really good at his job.
@@christinaburns2023 I’m still cracking up because of how nosey he gets when looking for that next piece of information. You just see a camera moving towards the khoebergers house “this is private property!!!” Says father khoeberger (probably with a shotgun in hand)
On a killers porch at night Entin says “I’m with the media??” 😂
He was probably sheeting bricks knowing he forgot the sheath.
It’s absolutely moronic to think he looked at one of the survivors and just left.
Have you murdered 4 people? Just curious how you would know how he felt after that.
Maybe
@@Flygirl37 so he just committed a quadruple murder and looks at a living victim standing there while leaving and you are simple minded enough to think that he would have just leave lol
@GSP UFC and stuff don’t need to kill anyone to realize he isn’t walking past a witness if he just killed 4 people.
She might have thought he looked at her. Also, you have no idea of the lighting in the room. It could have been fairly dark and he didn't see her because he wasn't looking for another person.
If cops said the dm and bf slept Thru that means BK did not see DM
Otherwise he would know straight away the police was bluffing
He drove back because it hadn’t been reported on the news yet… he was checking why he wasn’t seeing his “work” being reported all over the tv & internet
with his phone on?
Brian Entin THANK you So much!!! ❤
It's not that weird, the entire country was on alert for a white elantra
This sounds like a very viable explanation with the idea of an adrenaline crash and the need to get out of that house.
I think he got spooked and thought the surviving roommate may have already called 911 from hearing the dog barking and hearing the cries along with someone saying “someone’s here” so he didn’t think he had time to kill her and he got the hell out of there leaving the sheath in a panic. Which I still think he killed Ethan and Xana first w every intention of taking his evidence upstairs to the next killings (Maddie and Kaylee) and making sure he took the sheath w the knife to dispose of it when done. That’s why I think he panicked and he could’ve heard the roommate on 2nd floor open or close her door. I mean, why would he take that chance and leave Xana in her room alive w Ethan after getting door dash and being on Tiktok and them possibly hearing or seeing the commotion upstairs if he went up there first. Just disgusting how he came back knowing there was 4 dead bodies in there and the cops hadn’t been called yet. He probably wondered why esp being that one surviving roommate he thought maybe had called the cops when he was committing the crimes and again that’s why he didn’t harm her. He may have also thought about going back in to get the sheath OR finishing her off. Who knows but I wouldn’t put anything past this sick deranged individual.
Your theory makes the most sense, though that audio of the murders that was leaked a day ago has Maddie and Kaylee getting killed first and Ethan getting killed last so I am not sure if it was just edited that way or what order everything happened in. It makes no sense killing Maddie and Kaylee first which some well respected criminal profilers agree with. Apparently Kaylee got it the worst with over 66 stab wounds and the bones in her face were completely broken according to some source that was at the crime scene. Hence why her dad absolutely wants Bryan to get the death penalty no matter what.
@SoySauce HairDye I believe the girls were first because Kaylee has the most vicious attack, that takes energy, and would happen early on.
The couple was done fast and efficiently.
He didn't drive back to look for what he dropped, he drove back to feed his ego !
To pick up the murderer…..DM
he has issues with visual snow. if the house was dark he probably didn't see her.
It wasn't snowing on November 13th
@@sisclark8088 lol that’s not what visual snow means, it’s a visual medical condition
Oh wow. Was his condition stated in the affidavit?
@@stephaniecostello2262 nah but there's posts from him on tapatalk from a while back.
I think BK didn't anticipate there would be more than one person in each bedroom. Since two more bedrooms on the bottom of the house had closed doors, he realized he might have to kill four more people, two of which might be men.
I agree, I dont think this was planned out like people think it was.
Makes no sence to attack a house with 6 people living in there.
There's a chance he kind of panicked, thought cops were on the way and thought he had to get out of there why he could. Murdering another person, he could get caught red handed.
He "thinks"...
It is not normal to don’t call immediately the police and to don’t enter the rooms from the victims to see if everything is alright! This is also a criminal so the inmates needs to be arrested because there is no excuse for having neglect to call the police! Maybe some of the 4 victims would have been alive if they did! And if the inmate say it is because o a shock to don’t have call the police that’s non sense! A shock happens when they see committing the murder but not only seeing a person in the house! If they were shocked they couldn’t stay any minute longer in that crime scene! If something like that - seeing a dangerous person in my house, would happen, I would not lock my self in a room but I would immediately leave my own house. I would wait until I am sure that the dangerous person left my property and then I would leave my house because I wouldn’t support to stay in it longer! And I would run in the next police station asking for help!! This two survivors has to go in jail too!!! They waited so long like making sure that the 4 victims were dead! Maybe because they lay the murder in? We don’t know but IT IS A NORMAL INSTINCT TO RUN TO HELP, even in a dangerous situation and even it would costs your life!
She waited 8 hours to call friends to come over. One of those friends called 911
- this guy is guessing 🙄🤨
I doubt he has seen the witness. He came in there to murder one girl. Found her laying in bed with her best friend, so he decided to end both their lives (to not leave any witnesses). He then decided to leave but ran into the girl and her boyfriend on the 2nd floor. He had to kill them, because a dead person can't tell on him anymore. He then left the scene. If he had seen the witness, there would've been 5 dead bodies. Very sad case, but I'm glad the guy is caught. I'm going with the police chief on this, they have their guy!!!
The way he looks at his defense attorney is also sickening!!!!!! I almost puked!
lol yeah. dude needs to be cuffed and contained for sure
Pause 0:05 I saw that motion hearing. He is looking at the person at the podium there not his attorney. The video works better than pictures. The video is more accurate, pictures are not accurate that is why Judge Judge should never have removed the cameras from the court because of false comments people make reading images the wrong way.
😂Theres no knife. The cops planted the sheath most likely.
It doesn’t matter why he returned to the scene. All that matters if evidence which will prove the elements of the crimes.
And it has proven more than everyone expected
Was he a food delivery driver or a ride share?
Huh?
@@Dracarys.. He never said there’s anything wrong with checking. He was just talking facts
@@lobsterblacc9478 Nothing has been proven yet. Lol
I don't think he planned this out as much as people think he did.
Why would your target be a house of 6 people. I'm thinking he didn't know there was 6 people in the house.
Also, once the killing started I would think everything would be hectic, all plans thrown out the window.
I'm thinking he was a jealous stalker, he seen her come home, and went into a rage and decided to do this spur of the moment.
I think the reason he was studying what he was studying was because he knew he had the urge to kill inside him, probably wanted to know the reason why.
I wonder if BK assumed that Xana’s doordash driver would be considered the main suspect. He had to of seen him/her there just minutes before
I'm sure he knew Xana would get doordash by calling Madame Cleo on the Phychic Hotline.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏to all the families
That's not why he went back. He definitely was thinking on that knife sheath that he left behind. He probably didn't realize it came off,. Which it might have if Maddie fought back and ripped off his belt. He didn't bother to holster it again just went straight to Xana's room knife in hand.
I'm still convinced he's an incel who thought he could get away with murder because "he's too smart to get caught".
There's no such thing as an incel, its just middle aged women fantasizing about sex with young guys.
Yeah, I think he is too and Maddie or Kaylee was his original target but didn't expect the other three to be there and see him, and they unfortunately became victims of his too. The situation didn't go as expected for him, and all the media attention and police resources put into solving this quadruple homicide led to him being relatively quickly caught and arrested.
And I feel so horrible for the roommate that survived. She must have horrible survivor's guilt and trauma from being part of that. I can't even imagine what that must have been like 😔💔
@@draganavulovic9779 No, that wouldn't have changed a fucking thing.
It's a frat house. This is how dumb, drunk kids act.
Either she was drunk and/or high and didn't want to get in trouble or, worse, she knew the killer. There is no justification for her seeing a cold blooded killer and then going back to sleep.
@@thisisgettingold how does she know he was a cold blooded killer?
@@draganavulovic9779 I doubt she could have save their lives even if she called 911 immediately.
@@draganavulovic9779 man everyone is speculating about why things happened the way they did. Maybe wait to hear her side of the story before making judgment. Most of you are judging her based on hypotheticals. Not facts.
Bigger question is why did she DID NOT REACT to anything until shes called 911 SEVEN HOURS LATER
He came back 9 in the morning to see if there were cops there and there wasn't.
They do say they return to the scene of the crime !
I think he quit after the 4 because he assumed this woman already called the police.
yeah he decided to book it before the cops would come
That's actually a good point
Or he never even locked eyes on her
You can have a different knife in a not matching sheath.
Sure, but it doesn’t matter. The prosecutor will show that the wounds are consisten with a Ka-Bar. So what if it were something else?
No matter the knife theres DNA on the sheath.
He may have gone back in the morning, contemplating if he should go back in and get the sheath back.
Concerning him coming back to the house nearly 5 hrs later. He had to know it didn't get reported because let's imagine D.M. did call much sooner then the news would've broken while he was back at his apartment I imagine. I'm also very curious to know if he had a police scanner app on his phone too because that could be another way he'd find out. Does anyone think he came back to possibly retrieve the sheath because he knew it wasn't reported to cops yet but realized it'd just be too risky???
And lookey Lou too.....
One question I have is without the sheath where did he put the bloody knife on his body on the way out because DM did not mention him carrying the knife in his hand? He knew he didn't have the sheath after the stabbings but with the place being dark didn't hang around to look for it.
Doubt a sheath is something you look for after stabbing 4 people
I thought the same thing
There could certainly be details that were not included in the affidavit... They aren't showing their entire hand yet.
He could of put it in a plastic bag
@GSP UFC and stuff You're trying wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard. You're not edgy, or cool. You're cringe.
Brian Enton has been following this case like a trooper
Al these excuses for the roommate who heard 4 people slaughtered,opened her door multiple times,saw a man in a mask and managed to lock herself in and stay safe til midday when she decided to call friends
Not even the police.
Friends.
She did nothing
Even the dog barked and did more than her.
BK was in rehab for HEROIN addiction. At "PARTY HOUSE" 13 times for guess what: HEROIN...Witness sees intruder, hears crying, loud barking, noises and no 911 police call for 10 hours because they are DEALERS hiding DRUGS!..... Coroner refused to do drug toxicology on dead victims!?.....Only the media can force the truth out of this
He wasn't too exhausted , its just that she was no threat, now if she had started screaming then maybe he would of done something , this is what i heard from a retired sheriff sharing on his post.
It’s difficult to believe there was no screaming
yeh, those were my thoughts, she saw him, but all she could say was ''it was a white man''. They would have been expecting that. So in theory the fact that she saw him didn't give any extra information if he was not expecting to be caught. As it happens she did give extra information. the ''or taller'' and bushy eyebrows sound like it was *him* that she saw indeed.
Or the dog going crazy
Who knows what the lighting was like? Maybe the main room on the 2nd floor was fairly dark and her bedroom was dark, so he just didn't see her because he wasn't looking for another person.
Nothing has indicated the house had all the lights on.
Yeah the four other kids in their beds were a huge "threat"
Do you even read what you type
The roommate was in on it.
Lol no.
@GSP UFC and stuff yep. Good for u.
Engaging a target that is alert will take more time, efforts and noise than a target that is in bed.
No. I disagree. When he left and disposed of the weapon, he realized that he’d left the sheath at the scene. He was trying to get back in to recover that sheath, I think. I totally agree with Brian.
Thank you Brian. Very interesting and exceptional guest.
What I don't get about the roommate is she didn't know what happened in the house before she saw Bryan but yet she was frozen in fear and locked herself in her room she didn't think to check on her friends after he left or she didn't think he left or what? And when she called it in she said her friend was unconscious??? It's all Supercross weird 😕
I believe that the call about someone being unconscious is due to the fact that whoever discovered the bodies was hysterical and passed out.
BecUse she’s full of shit and got caught up in a web of lies instantly
That is right.."Exhausted"... Especially at least one of the victim was fully awake..
I don't understand why the police didn't rent a box truck, to remove the beds? Instead of open short bed pickup trucks?
He went back to retrieve the knife sleeve.
I think he went back because he was baffled as to why there was no news about the murders. After all, he was seen and expected the police to be called right away.
He did not see the girl, holy fuck
@@davemccombs Doesn't matter if he saw her or not, he knew there were more than 3 women living in the house.
D.M. will have to get on the stand to testify if there is a trial here. If B.K. pleads not guilty the defense is going to grill D.M. mercilessly.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
If someone was really a genius or brilliant in criminology they would have had the foresight to contact a friend or family member or a peer about their idea to kill people, in order to keep it from happening.
His dad's missing a knife lol
It's too bad the ME made the comments she did about the victims being asleep. That obviously wasn't true and the Defense can use it to undermine her testamony.
Those room mates smell very fishy to me !! contact police 8 hrs later ?
Roommate- Dylan M - was in one of the 2nd floor bedrooms. Victims Xana & boy friend, Ethan Chapin, were in the other bedroom, the living area/kitchen with sliding doors separated the 2 bedrooms.
1st floor roommate evidently was never aware of what happened, as far as we know at this time.
Top floor, 3rd, had Madison & Kaylee.
Sliding doors didn't separate the 2nd floor bedrooms, doofus. The rooms were in diagonal corners of that floor. Look at the floor plans that were shown hundreds of times. Stop lying when you don't know what your talking about. Your are the stupid people that get incorrect rumors started.
I do believe that he drove by to see if he had a shot at retrieving the sheath. I also think the family is all but certain that Bryan did the killing.
But how? He knew the sheath was inside the house in broad daylight. What shot did he have?
He probably had no idea where he lost it.
I'd think going back could only make it more likely he got caugh.
If there was no DNA on the sheath, what was there to worry about?
He wore gloves and didn't think there was DNA on it.
He was tired & ran out of time. But why didn't Dylan call the cops before noon that day? That is weird.
She was asleep per what they originally said. If she was awake at 4 am sleeping till noon is perfectly reasonable for a college student.
@@leahwhiteley5164 Nothing reasonable in this story.
She saw a masked intruder, was shocked and afraid and then locked herself in her room without checking on her mates or calling the police.
Does that seem like a perfectly reasonable conduct to you, college student or not?
It's true indeed criminals go back to the crime scene.
I don't mean to judge the roommate, but I still can't wrap my head around why she waited until noon to contact the authorities? That is just weird to me, but I've never been in her position...
Because you weren't there and you know nothing of what happened. So you just run your mouth without a brain.
She wasn't downstairs. She was on the 2nd floor in her bedroom
The surviving roommates lived on the first floor.
@@Joseph-xe1ry Yes, but DM was staying on the 2nd floor that night. There was an empty room on that floor.
@@stephaniecostello2262 Would you stay in a room that wasn't your own bedroom? What's the point?
@@Joseph-xe1ry I figured maybe she had switched bedrooms; the tenant situation was in transition due to 2 roommates prepping to graduate, etc. 🤷🏻♀️
Prayers for the families. Heartbreaking.
Wow my uncle who's a retired State Trooper will feel vindicated now. He said last week that the first stop was planned and rehearsed collaborating what this man just said > being that Sheriff officers never stop cars on the interstate unless it's a blatantly obvious dangerous traffic offense or if they are looking for a wanted criminal or suspicious car.
Every damn time I've driven in Indiana I've been stopped. Once twice. They are known for pulling people over.
I live in Ohio and when I would go to Chicago to visit family I would always get stopped in Indiana lol. It was always for the smallest thing and the one time it started snowing when I reached Indiana on my way home back from Chi. I was told he pulled me over bc I was going too slow but the snow plus the wind made the roads terrible.
@@tiannamaria ya but like that guy said those are troopers stopping you not sheriffs
no, it makes no sense to stop him for a minor traffic offense and potentially spook him. Those Indiana cops had no idea who he was.
@@genesmith3582 The FBI would have had him under surveillance as he drove to PA - they had already ID’ed him and matched him to DM’s description. Perhaps they actually wanted to spook him into further incriminating himself by fleeing towards Canada or Mexico, or ditching the car for a rental or bus.
She is involved
I hope people realize that unless they found the knife in his car or his apartment or parents house and the knife had the victims blood on it, having some scientific analysis that says the wound tracks are consistent with a Ka-Bar is almost meaningless. That knife literally has hundreds of millions if not billions of the exact same knife in existence over the last 8 decades or so, it is a military weapon dating back to WW2 and was produced by multiple companies under government contracts besides the actual name brand Ka-Bar ones and have been sold at every Army Surplus Store Gun and Knife Shows countless online retailers as well as most brick and mortar sporting goods/ outdoors stores. Yes a sheath with his DNA was found at the scene but the individual blade won’t be able to be matched to the wounds like on an episode of CSI on TV unless they found the blade with blood on it. Unfortunately this is quite literally the most common fixed blade combat knife worldwide and with that many decades of being manufactured it would be like trying to find 1 specific sewing needle in a mountain of completely identical sewing needles.
I think there is a guy in Washington State who sold him a knife like that for $300.
@@mikewood7597 who pays $300 for a knife that you can get brand new for like $75 last time I bought one several years ago so I’m assuming maybe $100 now
@@peltiereric6497 The guy who sold it said it was a bit of a relic. That is all I know.
@@mikewood7597 there are old ones as they date back to before WW2 but they are literally unchanged. Also the picture of the sheath that was shown in the news looked like the commercial version but maybe it wasn’t the one actually recovered
Something is not okay. He is a smart dude and should know that his phone can be identified based on cell data. Why did he take the phone?
Because the whole narrative of him being smart is from the media assuming so because he has a degree and is in school. I’m in school, and you don’t necessarily have to be a genius to finish it. He just liked criminology a lot and kept going back to class for it, he is an arrogant dummy who probably cheated on test
if he was smart in any way at all he would not have committed such a crime (as alleged)
I've started to despise watching videos about this murder and reading comments. My God, people need a different hobby.
Sound like a lot of professional murderers in the murder, trying to prove how amateur he was. Wow!
That description that Chacon gave of how/why Kohberger just walked by surviving roommate sounds very good and very plausible. Expressed that idea well. I also still think the stops were planned, just I guess not by FBI. The were just too perfect. Maybe the first stop indicated they saw wounds on Kohberger and other stop just had to see it. In second stop also looked like they maybe got DNA from license.
I also heard that words were exchanged. This makes it much more spooky since it rules out the possibility that he didn't see her.
It doesn't sound plausible when immediately after they mention he came back hours later. Expecting to see police activity. Why would you go there knowing someone there, ALIVE, saw you, and can simply point at you.
No they can track you with a stingrays and even listen thru your phone to conversations in the car
@@smugnick5458 He likely went back to try and see if he dropped the knife sheath outside before he got to the car.
@@smugnick5458 She didn't point him out, did she?
From what I remember from the only thing released, the PCA, she simply gave a description.
Please correct me; if, I'm wrong.
I feel for the family and friends of the victims first and foremost but i also feel for the suspects parents especially the mother.
I don't feel bad for the parents lol. They are standing/defending this Psycho.
The nightmare for the victims families is just beginning. If the suspect is the killer, and does not plead guilty…….at trial it’ll be known how graphic the killings were
@@mtio2807 many people will be mentally disturbed by the case I can assure that. It is unfortunate that they will not be offered therapy after this.. they will have to seek treatment themselves.
Edit : While it is not typical for therapy to be provided specifically for PTSD resulting from jury duty, some courts do offer support services for jurors who are struggling emotionally. These may include access to counseling or other mental health resources.
@@Pygmyz06 ….. poor people who get called for service
people that behave like this were likely abused as children.
Not to say we should feel sorry for this piece of shit but i also wouldn't consider his parents anywhere near the parents of the victims.
If he was so exhausted then why did he keep coming back? I’m not buying your explanation. I’m sure there was a huge adrenaline rush going on with him. You don’t leave witnesses. So’ try that bull story with someone else
You tell ‘em, Sandy!
Just curious..Do we know if there was a blood trail? Like prints/trail outside of the one they found(vans like). how could he have not been soaked. Wonder if he would've had his seats/turn signal, steering wheel all covered on plastic. Seems Iike coming back, heck even driving away wouldn’t chance being covered in biological material. And has anyone mentioned(sure they have) but possibly a driver? Making all those passes by? Where was his dad then?
There was a blood trail following out to the sliding glass door he left, but the footprints of his bloody shoes could only be seen using one of those tools that shows blood that isn't visible to the naked eye. I don't think there is any chance he had a getaway driver. I doubt his dad knew he was the killer until he was arrested. If he told his parents, he wouldn't have been sneaking around their neighborhood at 4 in the morning throwing away evidence from the crime in his parent's neighborhood on Christmas night.
@@soysaucehairdye7869 wow, thanks for response! I jusst saw that about the footprint and luminol and someone asking, how, why? As if someone had time to clean it up? And guess we will find out during trial or has it been said what evidence of crime was being thrown away? Or just the sus act of neighbors bins at 4am? Thanks again!
I was right about the IN traffic stops not being orchestrated by the FBI. Would have been really dumb to pull him over twice in less than a couple of hours. The two IN cops knew about the hunt for the white Elantra so when they saw a white Elantra with WA plates they independently concocted a bogus traffic violation to pull him over so they could claim it was a legit stop...standard cop procedure..
No, you weren't. They quite literally do not admit that these were orchestrated.
In fact, orchestrating them seems like a pretty bad idea. We'll see.
And no, not "standard cop procedure," lmao.
Which is it, Ken, was it "orchestrated by the FBI" or "concocted by two Indiana cops" lol
Just watch, don't play armchair detective
He gives me the creepiest vibes....
He didn't see Dylan. This also explains why he went back to try to find knife cover. If he knew he was seen he wouldn't have gone back.
No he didn’t. He drove back for the sheath.
Or to pick up the murderer, DM
@@mtio2807 he will be found guilty and you'll look like a fool
Be careful not to give this guy too much coverage. The main reason every single murderer commits a crime like this is because they go from nobodies to newfound fame and notoriety. That's the common denominator they all have. BTK, Zodiac, Golden State, Bundy, Unabomber on down the line.
Right. They keep calling him stupid basically and saying he isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
Some could see this as a challenge.
@@devra5186 correct most don't want to be caught but they do want to be given a nickname and the want their crimes publicized.
why would he have "rage." brian?
He knew that sheath gave him the " death penalty "
Fbi agent or not only this person could explain what went wrong into his mind
If he’s guilty.
Was Bryan's father missing a knife? If he is, he knows his son is guilty. So very sad.
He knows…….and he’s helping him
Prob in denial. Damn. He was driving back from WA to PA with his son in the white Elantra! Craziness.
How about discussing the murders w their son. As he was a criminal justice major and the crime was just a couple of miles from where he lived…then finding out the police are looking for the same type car their son drives . You’d prob have a sick feeling in your stomach w this info alone…
Wonder if the knife was in his sisters thrasher movie?
@@sandrah2758 What's the movie called?
I don’t understand how is it the prison system is catering to his vegan needs - when the 4 victims will never have dinner with their families again ever !!