Former FBI agent: They have Kohberger pinned to the wall | NewsNation Prime
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- Tracy Walder, former CIA and FBI agent, offers insight into the arrest affidavit for Idaho college stabbing suspect Bryan Kohberger.
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The dna, the pinging of the cell phone, and the car…and being able to show a pattern of stalking. I’m sure they have a lot more evidence for this to be a slam dunk.
I think there is a surprise up his sleeve. Seems too easy that he would be dumb enough to bring his phone - absolutely rookie clueless mistake - so did he do it on purpose for some reason? The "ping" tower covers any phone on campus. Is he making a mockery of the entire justice system, showing how they convict innocent people? Will he have some alibi / receipt / video which puts him miles from the murder scene? 🤔Something is fishy -it's all too buttoned up and simple. Makes no sense.
@@DesignRhythm ... It's dumb to simply want to kill, so there is that.
Considering that trials without such a likely suspect contain thousands of pages of discovery, there will be tens of thousands for this and we've only seen a 19 page affidavit and one page was redacted. There will be so much more.
@@DesignRhythm bruh youre over thinking it, he is an insane guy end of story
@@DesignRhythm I think he left that knife sheath on purpose…it was laying right beside one of the two girls upstairs sleeping in a twin bed together. It was carried on a belt so he had to be holding the sheath and the knife during the attack or took the time to take it off of his belt! Both of these options sound bizarre.. I truly think he wanted to get caught, and experience the fun of playing games in the court room. This is a psycho of immense proportions, unlike anything we’ve seen in awhile now. Unfortunately this is becoming all to familiar in the post Covid era…
He drove around the house three times before he went in and murdered them all within 16 minutes and left without getting caught. 1000% premeditated.
It was the food truck guy.
I can see it in his eyes.
@@ObeseCaligula Good grief!!
Lol they need to make a slasher film about Bryan⚪️🗑💩🤡👿
@@sheila9674
I can see it your eyes too.
ARREST HER!!!!
Crowd nothing worked too long
I sobbed too. This is just too horrific. I can’t stop thinking about these innocent children. The absolute horrors they went through. My heart breaks
At least two of them died very quickly
Children???
Horrific hard to bare this was reality
@@honorthyparents8510 yes children
@@honorthyparents8510 as a parent, my 25 year old will ALWAYS be my child.
That's why people need to be more patient in this day and age. People wanted the heads of the police before the arrest and didn't think they were doing their jobs but they had to be quiet and cross all those t's and dot all the i's. The old adage is so true, good things come to those who wait and patience is a virtue. But this day in age people want what they want immediately. Truly we can't thank those officers enough for enduring all the wrong backlash they received and took their time to get the right person to ensure there was justice for the victims and their families.
@@NoName-ml5yk Watching CSI isn’t an ethos 😂
CSI...HAaaa
Blame social media, Gen Z, and the generations that raised them.
@No Name so why didn't you solve it sooner/quicker??
But you’re doing the exact same thing by jumping to conclusions that this is the right guy. Innocent until proven guilty. I want to see the trial first.
He probably found floor plan online as it was rented by kids for years. So sad, I feel so bad for the surviving roommates and families.
Didn't think of this, good point. I had it in my mind that he must have been in the house before to know where to go, but this makes sense.
Na, it was more personal then that.
He wouldn't need to do that. He had been to the house 12 time prior watching them. I'm sure he knew who lived on what floors, and in what rooms by the lights that are turned on in the house when they get home
Would not surprise me if he had attended a party or two at that house. At some point months before the murders, he most likely had an encounter with one of those girls at a grocery store, or a bank, or on campus, and I suspect he tried flirting and was REJECTED. He got very angry and decided to follow this girl around to the point where he learned where she lived......
Moscow, Idaho is a small college town, and is NOT used to things of this nature. I just have to commend the law enforcement communities for the professional manner they conducted themselves and in coordination with other agencies. Information was gathered, formulated and very well put together to narrow it down!! It's been a slow process, but the complexities of FOUR murdered have demanded it!
why would you commend anyone for REACTIVE policing. they ignored the multiple complaints BEFORE it happened. you are a fool
It's usually been shootings w/casualties in Moscow.
-Guy who shot up courthouse + killed 3&himself (one was a beloved responding LEO),
-the nutty UI psych prof who killed his GF before taking off in a rental car and staging just off campus at a motel with all his firearms/ammo (thanks to MPD, they caught up with him there and he offed himself at breaching time)
-Jason Lee, killed 3 wounded one
Granted all perps should have been red-flagged, but that's a whole nother thing. And much agree, all agencies did an amazing job. I can see one aspect of the public/annoying stuff directed at them could have been providing a cover and making BK think he's in the clear mostly and not spook and do something, or make another mistake, etc.
@@nwmacguy Well said, and thanks! The fact that it took so long to address BK by the Moscow PD left people frustrated, angry and feeling that the PD and other agencies were dragging their feet and just plain INEPT!! Quite to the contrary. They kept their cards "close to their vests" because they knew they had to! BK is shrewd and sly to begin with, and with his interests and studies (criminal justice), it became imperative! NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING (for SEVEN days; unheard of in 2023). Let's face it--I did too! Sorry, but "social media" CAN muddy the waters (FACTS, and from multiple sources are important). With FOUR murders, having the the case(s) dismissed to a technicality can run high. From what I understand, it could take MONTHS to sort out--let's hope not!!
This guy committed one of the most evil and worst executed murders in recent memory. I'm so glad he was so incompetent so the families can begin to properly grieve. I can't see a plea deal being offered either in this case. The evidence is just far too overwhelming against him. The one chance I think he might have at a plea is if he confesses his crimes in open court like BTK and reveals why he did it. Highly unlikely though.
No offer of LWOP works for me.
Just maybe after he learns he's getting the death penalty he'll open up to others he's possibly committed.
@@uality That’s a very good point. He could get a plea deal if it turns out there are more victims. LE will definitely want to close any cold cases. Based on how amateur hour this crime was executed though I think this was his first time. This one ends with a needle in his arm.
Not even close lol. Wehave murders like this everyday in Detroit. You don't hear about it because the people involved are poor, and black, not white, and well off.
@@uality FBI is already said they're nearly positive its his first because of the sloppyness
Wow, how can someone be so evil, I can understand being interested in criminology but damn to actually do it and expect to get away with it that's literally insanity at its finest and so sad how someone could use it to do the unthinkable is just mind-boggling to say the least.
Apparently you don't realize that fully half of all murders go unsolved and unpunished
He deserves the death penalty
Obviously he's not very intelligent. I'm pretty sure it was him that called into the the trev podcast for fifteen minutes on 12/14, trying to suggest that fraternity members may be possible suspects.
I wonder if he wanted to get caught. Some of the evidence and mistakes he made were so common sense… I mean, how did he not know these things being a criminology student 🤔🤔 He must be really dumb or playing…
clearly a psychopath. once you have a good idea of what that means, it's somewhat more understandable clinically. imagining oneself doing it is where we all have difficulty understanding.
Not only was this premeditated, I wouldn’t be surprised that the reason why he went all the way to Washington was to “be himself”. Be the killer that he has always wanted to be. I mean this guy even applied for internship with Pullman’s PD. He probably wanted to find out what kind of resources they had. He was set to commit murder, he just couldn’t help himself and wait. Also, the night of the murders he kept driving back and forth which makes me think he just ran out of patience. Maybe he could see lights on and was aware someone was still up.
Really, there is nothing wrong with applying for internships, heck when I was going through school for addiction counseling, I had to complete two internships.
good point i didn't think of that
Exactly what I told mentioned to my husband. He decided to do his PhD studies in Washington so that he could find who would be his victims, kill, then run 2,000 miles away thinking no one would suspect him. And they wouldn’t have, had he not been so careless
@@MsDeeGee101 so you are saying based on his curriculum this is something that anyone else in his field would need or if interest apply for?! I mean the difference between you and him is that he is a killer. And he wanted the perfect cover.
@@GARRY3754 A lot of cops commit murder with impunity; not long ago some pig shot a paralyzed guy in a wheelchair 9 times. Then there was the female officer in Texas who blew away some black guy eating ice cream in his apartment; she claimed that she thought it was HER apartment. Cops get away with murder. Don't dare shoot a cop, though. Shoot one of those 'heros' and that's it. Either life without parole or death... Cops in Georgia falsely charged me, creating phony reports; I beat the case, but still lost my job due to just being arrested. We have an awful judicial system. Money determines your outcome, not the facts!
Years of education informing himself on how to avoid leaving evidence behind at the crime scene. Educated with degrees on top of degrees and no common sense. .....Then uses his own car, takes his phone, and leaves an entire knife sheath behind at the crime scene
I would bet money that he's one of those people who thinks they're smarter than everyone else in the room, regardless of the topic.
I doubt he made so many mistakes because of arrogance, but because his murder fantasies totally consumed his life. He spent more time thinking about the act of murder than how to not get caught.
Yea like it’s that dumb that a set up against him is plausible no???
All those evidences were easily setup. The FBI tried too hard to frame him, to make him a scape goat.
That is what his friend's dad said about him. Always had to be the smartest guy in the room.
it makes me wonder if he's the right guy!. leaving a knife sheath behind!!! that almost sounds like planting a evidence. that is so remarkably dumb
How do the surviving family members of the victims cope? I wouldn’t want to live if my child was brutally murdered. I’m amazed at their strength. It is what I keep thinking about. I hope the victims didn’t suffer or feel anything passed out before they died. Hope they rest easy and in a place where people like Bryan don’t exist.
I think the parents are leaving to get justice.
living
@@lisacornella1973 you can edit your own comments you know
@@lisacornella1973 yeah but there are families that never do. Imagine waking up every morning to the horror. I wouldn’t cope let alone live a normal life again.
Oh, I get that. I think these families are very strong. They will need to be for a long time because the time til trial and the trial itself will take a bit at least.
Some of us people have personal expectations to stay out of trouble and others have desires to see how far they far they can push their limits to find out how much they can get away before they get caught. No Excuse
No doubt he's been pushing the limits of his privileges long before this crime
@Lilman Yellow yes a lot of people have quirky antisocial personalities some people are just goofy but they don’t end up murdering people not sure there is a connect there
Hopefully Bryan Killberger gets the death penalty for brutalizing those kids the way he did...
If you think of murder as a sin, or transgression, we are each & all without excuse before God. People don’t like the word sin (me either), and people don’t like others talking about moral codes, what we should, & ought to do. Bryon was suffering mentally & emotionally, a loner, no close friends or source of intrinsic support. He was toying with troubling thoughts in his head. No one bothered to reach out. Why?
I think he did this as an experiment.
He took his own phone, his own car, and the murder weapons sheath with his DNA and fingerprint on the button snap. Then went back around to watch what was going on. To say nothing of all the stalking of the home and one of the victims and her parents home before the murders and all the guilty clean ups and the master’s thesis on trying to find what serial killers feel and where their minds are at furing their crimes. With no girlfriend ever to speak for him and others finding him either creepy or angry. My God! Hasn’t he ever watched 48 hours or twenty-thwenty?
I don't think the police ever said that his fingerprint was on the button snap. Could you please post the article that shows that?
@@johnwow2646 his DNA was there..not sure it's a finger print..??
It says in the affidavit his finger print was on the button on the sheath.
They said it could possibly be skin cells.
@@johnwow2646 they never said it was fingerprints just dna on the button snap.
Given that Kohberger was right at the beginning of his PhD program and he started stalking the residents as soon as he moved to Pullman in summer 2022, I can't help but wonder if part of his motivation was to create a crime that he could be the expert in for his dissertation work. His disturbing Reddit survey during his Masters program suggest to me he wanted to know all inner workings of criminals. Fast forward to now, I firmly think it's possible that he expected he could do it cleanly enough to leave it unsolved and give himself a PhD project for his criminology degree. The ultimate thrill in duper's delight: be the expert over your own local unsolved crime that you committed. I also think it is possible that the whole house was a target because the students were prominent on social media and he easily got to "know" them from afar. It made him more comfortable to study them, make a plan, and then strike.
That is what happened with a journalist in Macedonia killing I believe 4 women. He would write details that nobody knew.
I wonder if he kept notes on his stalking and the murders? Or if he done his own survey after the attack. If he's twisted enough to commit these crimes, anything is possible
Watch it it’s a interesting documentary
Stop overanalyzing this. This was a sexually motivated crime by an incel after he was rejected by one of the victims.
You got it backwards. He didn't get into crime to further his criminal justice career goals, but the other way around.
Even criminals can't just leave their phone at home.
I know. I bet he wasn't actually intending to do the murders that night. Probably a scouting and fantasy trip, but not actual murders.
True ! Its a huge addiction !
Really well done, thank you!
That killer was trying to show the class how to get caught.
Definately, a textbook example on what not to do. Who goes in a house with 6 people and a dog. Unless you got a masters in ninja. This house must have been a crazy party house with no locked doors and that dog probably barks all the time. Neighbors are sad but deep down, their like...
@@JB-ep2ei 💯
@@JB-ep2ei HE succeeded ....OMG ( maybe the dumbest criminology student on the planet....omg)
🤣🤣🤣
In my opinion, I believe this psychopath slaughtered these 4 beautiful souls was, because he wanted to date Kaylee or Maddison, but knew he’d never have a chance. He wanted to be the couple that Xana and Ethan were, but knew he’d never have that type of a relationship with anyone! He’s a narcissist as well.
It's ironic you call this sicko a narcissist after the emotionally unbalanced ramblings you posted lol
My thoughts as well.
@@jasonvoorhees5640 go back to bed lol
the sunken eye vulture could never get those beautiful girls and so loathed Ethan because of that and so an evil, creature with no soul, son of satan that he was, carried out his devilish desires thinking he would never be a suspect as he lived too far away.
@@chelseac197630
aren't you going to finish the fan fic?
This lady is one of The most pleasant and informative FBI agent out there, in my opinion. Very easy on the ear. And just so so easy to listen to.
Shes for FBI and CIA shes gotta be a nut job! Bet you shes single
@@deemen7132 Well you a very wrong. She is happily married since 2009, has a daughter too. She's just brilliant at what she does. Her name is Tracy Walder
former
Keep this guy alive. We deserve answers and a full trial.
We're not stupid. The evidence is going to be massive. Three years of trial is a waste of time. Just confess it BK !
I doubt he will confess....unless scared of DP
Why do you deserve answers? Do you live in that community? Are you a family member? Then you don't deserve anything, sorry
A criminal will only ever tell you what they want you to know.
Think you have a chance of getting answers?.you'll get what he gives,That's it.
They have no reason to silence him. If he was Bill or Joe son yea. Joe Biden son and Russia and china.
I truly am heartbroken for all concerned....especially the parents of these children but also this guy's Mama. He is going to get the death penalty. What causes a child you raise in love to turn into a killer. Those poor parents....oh God my heart hurts for them . This truly is horrible.
I agree unless his parents knew and didn't turn him in like the Laundrie's did. They let Gabby's family suffer for days and ended up losing their son as well. If they had turned him in, he would still be alive.
@@claramae3316 yes, truly sad. He was under the guise of trying to pick murder’s minds. He will get first hand reporting now. Laundries were the oddest but it helped his brother was a police or his father and perhaps more will come out of the mother. Usually, the women of Dv are angels to the guy. Her parents are usually worried - my folks were. No clue about murders. I would bet Watts was afraid he would be taken to the cleaners if he just divorced but then the girls could’ve grown up, he’d have a son……
Thanks for giving tips to the criminals of what not to do.
Criminal already know these tips, but BK didn't.
He being interested of SK's and crimes, he really must have known. Was he just arrogant and thought he is smarter than others or was his goal to be notorious killer?
as if this is hard
Tracy is great -- a voice of reason, and provided thorough, well thought out answers.
This Kohlberger took such a big risk, it's a Saturday night, imagine if there were 3 dudes in the house just hanging in the living room, or sleeping, he sure did take the risk of being taken down at anytime, just strange
Exactly. And in many states, there is Castle doctrine where you can shoot without no obligation to retreat if you feel you're in danger. He could have ran into any scenario.
Agree never would have believed he would have entered the house with only a knife while people were still awake. Extremely risky.
Is it Kohberger or Kohlberger? Some newscasters are mispronouncing it.
I know! It’s just unreal to think about. How on earth can someone do this? Walk into a dark house where you know there are people awake and not know if anyone might come at you with a knife or a gun or anything they can grab. I mean that’s brazen! There was 6 people in there! How did he manage to kill four people with a knife and no one was able to escape? No one called 911 and no one heard anything (other than a cry and a dog barking)?! He actually came back to see why there was nothing reported yet. I wonder if he thought he was dreaming or something?
@@shawnadeyo agree
I dont know, but is it possible that 'he didnt have to go upstairs' because he had already been up there?
Do you mean he entered from 3rd level balcony?
There was a ladder outside, I suppose he could have.
Not a bad thought.
3rd floor first then down to 2nd level, did more stabbing, then left through kitchen walk out level (past DM) and out the back, back to his car behind the house.
Interesting.
After listening to what is (supposedly) the leaked audio from next door today, he definitely attacked X and then E last.
This makes me so sick. They were so full of life and so beautiful and just happy.
Lol hence why they were targeted. They were flaunting their life all over the internet and town. These kind of women were called floosies. They weren't taught well and used their sexual attributes to gain social power. That's literally a form of selling yourself.
Sure you got a right to use it but don't be fooled, our society is based on trust and lots of unattractive isolated dudes are cracking obviously this has side effects. Just know I sit back and laugh, everyone got what they were asking for, attention hahahaha
Life is tough. This happens everyday in big cities.
Everyday in big cities?
@@tonysplace9255 No it does not. 4 teens do not get stabbed to death every single day
Such beautiful young people meeting such a horrible and brutal death. May they rest in peace and may the perpetrator burn in whatever hell he believes in for this.
No heaven it hell made up bullshit
you base your opinion of the dead on superficial beauty? maybe they killed his cat or secretly drugged him in the past so he got even. dont be a stupid, shallow, superficial person
Posting every second of one’s life on social media for attention, opens up lots of bad things to their lives! Social media is revealing all their day to day routines and they’re giving away any event they attending and bunch of unnecessary information online for anyone interested to stalking and taking advantage. Be more careful about what you’re posting and why!!
@@afsoon542 There's a lot to be said about your point. Many a criminal has been caught because of social media and many a victim found that way. I quite agree
"Was that a premeditated attack?" Was that a serious question?
lol. They are just trying to fill up air time but yeah it does get stupid when they run out of real questions.
A Phd student in Criminal Justice who graded papers and was known to be a harsh grader.
Yet, the killer used his own car, his own phone and left the knife sheath behind.
Had one of his own students submitted this as a paper he would have given it an *F!*
looks like he wants to get caught but win in court?
@@janpierzchala2004 It will be a miracle if he avoids the death penalty... I would like to see him represent himself in court. Does his "Criminal Justice" degree help him with court proceedings. It sounds like a lame useless major for people too stupid to study Law.
@@Better_Call_Raul You're probably very right that he is generally somewhat overrated as intelligent etc. So far looks not nearly cautious enough, quite dumb actually with all those cell loggins - I mean this was done in cool circumstances, the sheath could be explained a bit by very high nervousness of the situation.
If so, no major court drama (like OJ) should be expected.
What you said makes me think this guy didn't do it.
they said in the affidavit he’s been visiting the home since June 2022 when his phone first pinged. My biggest question is: What happened around June that motivated him to stalk them? What made him Seek these people? How much longer had he been stalking them without his phone pinging? Rest in peace to those 4 innocent souls
Someone said the phone was bought in June. If true he could have been stalking prior with another phone. I think it was a seemingly innocent meet....like maybe he saw the girls at the restaurant they worked at.
Maybe he was sleeping with Dylan
I wish there was a sentence and punishment available that he actually feared.
It bugs me how much he loves this attention and seems to have zero fear what his eventual fate will be. He NEEDS to be terrified of his sentence if we as a society want to create effective deterrents to prevent these evil madmen from acting out their evil and sick fantasies.
Death Row u rarely ever get the chair 🪑. People still on there sense early 80’s . Even if they say death penalty . It’s really life .
@@KpopFan30 I agree. This is why he needs to go to general pop, and not get the death penalty. These monsters should not be protected in prison. The prosecution also needs to ask that he cannot profit from his crime, similar to the Parkland shooter.
Maybe we can all send him letters describing what we think his Circle in Dante's Inferno will be like..nothing but 🥩 meat, people smarter than he, ugly women who don't even want him, and a lot of scarabs to nibble on him when he falls asleep.
Value Halla when he gets in prison all that will go away real fast because hes not gonna like who he comes in contact with expecially what he done to those young ones...he will be hated and tortured unless they out him with his kind...but the way he is they will get him regardless..that attitude wont work for him in prison...
The father of one of the victims said that Bryan looked scared in court during the hearing.
He should have just left a post it note on the Fridge on the way out with his name and phone # on it with the words, “I did it” and saved law enforcement the trouble. He left a trail of evidence leading right to him, 😮
He even came by the next morning. Wonder what he would have done if police were there?
This case is so sad 😭 I can’t stop thinking about it.
Unlikely BK was at parties in that house. I would think if he was, some students would have come forward to the police to say they saw him there in the past. Maybe they have and that has not been released, time will tell.
That's something I wondered. His cell records say he was there 12 times in the past few months, all late night and early morning times. Was he driving by and parking to watch? Did he go to some parties? What was he doing there, those 12 times?
The knife sheath with BK's skin cells conveniently laying there next to the body after the killing is a damn good piece of evidence.
@noodlepoodlegirl Definitely watching. He went there at 4am, which is likely when all the party guests would be gone if there was a party and the occupants would be asleep. He meticulously planned this out.
This loser was never invited to any parties anywhere.
Pos plain and simple
Yes I do not think he was in the house- while any parties- were going on, I think he sat outside- watching especially while the young adults we’re having a party. I wonder how long he sat at the location- 12xs- he probably sat & studied their movements, looked up the blueprint to the inside of the house off Google. This killer thought he was so smart, but dumb as a box of rocks. He is a disgrace.
Defense will have a field day with the surviving roommate, especially if she was not sober.
Learn more by going to Crime Circus on youtube. You will obtain more info on both of those videos.
Why wouldn’t he just leave his cellphone on and at home lol and this guy thought he was a genius
Book smarts sometimes = ignorant beyond the book.
He should hunt for a new professor right ...he is b. K.alright blunder kid ...Dennis radar probably laughing at the t.v.in the mess hall and going glad didn't have dna drones witness video cell phone pings in my day he saus and take both plates off or cover rear with a towel and if no plate on front back your car into every where park and go till your outta dodge ...
The fact he was wearing surgical gloves to clean his car then walks to his neighbors which were a distance to throw away trash, is alarming
@KMars I have used gloves when using cleaning supplies for years. Automatic. I put material in a neighbor's recycling bin just this week for perfectly innocent reason.
I wear gloves to clean my car as well.
@@aulusagerius7127 I have too, but here is the thing, his neighbors were not like walking distance. Where they are in Pennsylvania it’s a little distance. It’s not like regular suburbs where are neighbors are close enough to use their trash, so by him using white surgical gloves to dispose of his trash that’s questionable
@@Chad_Max I am not familiar with those type of gloves, I believe the media reported surgical gloves.
Maybe he put the knife in a dumpster on his escape route in the middle of the night as well.
I wish there was more info regarding one of the girls telling people she thought she had a stalker. I heard this early on in the investigation and then nothing more has been said about who or why she thought this.
They couldn’t find anyone. But her Mom told a story that one time Kaylee was driving back from the Mall and called her Mom to say someone was following her. Her Mom told her to call 911. Then she said never mind they turned.
Seems she was alert but could exaggerate situations. Her sister said she talked to Kaylee daily. If she had a stalker she would have told her.
@@KS-hi8vi But then the sad said she did mention having a stalker, so that part isn't clear.
They did have a stalker. He was at the home at least 12 times. The stalking goes to motive which is why we haven’t heard more. For example, If the boss at the restaurant where Maddie and Xana worked could identify Bryan as going there often law enforcement would want her to save that information for the trial.
Maybe the police played it down deliberately so that the perp wasn’t alerted about the stalker behaviour
The LEOs may have found the knife and clothes when BH put them in a neighbor's trash can. The affidavit does not have to state everything known, just enough to warrant an indictment.
He brought these items 3K miles? Seriously? With his father?
Yup , they found him putting items in neighbors trash cans at 4 am in the morning!
They also found his go pro with the actual footage.
@@NoName-ml5yk for real? Wow, what footage?
@@lyndieskurry2379 It's for the trial. Not for you to watch on YT. sickos.
He seems like the type what would rather represent himself in court.
he told the judge that he has a public defender and won't represent himself.
I thought that, too. Or at the very least, get a good defence attorney paid for by his family. Idk what it's like in the US, but here in Australia. Court appointed attorneys are not very good at all. You get what you pay for!
@@NikElectric24 it's the same in US and Canada as well
@@NikElectric24 true. But she’s the chief public defender, death penalty certified, and on a few boards of something. She should be decent.
Hope it goes as well for him as it did for Darrell Brooks.
I wonder at what point his parents and sister will recognize what he is / did. That and I'm a little tired of hearing how intelligent he is... note to self, don't take your own car to the crime scene SMH.
They put together an amazingly detailed affidavit . An awesome job was done making a pretty compelling timeline of events. I believe they have gotten the right guy. -a side note: I love it when an arrogant know-it-all, is shut down. 😉
Me too. Well said!
I get the feeling one of the Stacys provoked him. He had no criminal history prior to this.
Oh I fully believe he thought he was waaaay to intelligent to be caught and I love seeing that dumb scared look on his face.
@@RobbieStacks90 maybe he was at a party and she turned turned him down, he felt humiliated whether she was rude about it or not and he started plotting immediately.
I believe he may have met her at the restaurant where she was a server.
Great video.
Let the judicial system work.
Why go upstairs is like asking why go into the house in the first place.
Exactly. Kaylee had stab wounds that did not match the others. I believe she was target.
Why did he go up to the second floor
and check the first floor? It seems like he came directly to his victims he may be kew where their room is.
@@naima4656 they had an open door policy. He could have sent into that house anytime when people weren't home.
It’s so crazy that his sister starred in a horror movie about a stranger killing college students with a knife. Two days back is the title
I seen that on news today. Creepy isn't it. I remember when he got caught at first there was rumours online that his sister lived nearby the scene. Not heard anything else or if it was false 🤔
Horror movies should be illegal to make! They have inspired many killers! And so much for someone here who said BK' s family came from a good church of faith
@@wqv5423ln Don't be so ridiculous.
Wow ... crazy !
@@1977Suspiria facts are facts. horror/violence /porn movies are responsible for most of society crimes. just in name of 1st amendment, people glorify gutter stuff
Praying his lawyer has him take a plea! The families do NOT need to go through a trial! Great reporting newsnation - really loving your reporting lately!
No plea... Death penalty ! He butchered four young people & snuffed out their lives !
I bet the lawyer might advise a plea but he wont
His eyes tell on him alone !
I can't stomach looking at his eyes in his booking photo! Once was plenty!!
They are removing things out of crime scene means they are getting ready for murder trial and those things will be exhibited in courtroom for the jury to see.
Trial is next October
@@johnnybooth9957 where did you hear this from? the judge hasn't even scheduled it yet!
@@johnnybooth9957 Source?
@@melissabaliva2989 Exactly! Where these people coming up with information without providing credible sources to back it up. 🙄🙄
@@accesstotheredcarpet morons all morons. First of all your gonna know trial date at arraignment. Jan 12. Judge at fist hearing was looking at her computers 🖥 to schedule arraignment. She picked Jan 12. After Brian puts his plea in. She once again look at computers & schedule 📅 court date. She was say trial start end June,? OK with u prosecutor (p says OK if I need more time) Judge says when to notify for more time. Judge 👩⚖️ says for defense end of June? OK with u. Defense says we think 🤔 so but will notify if need more time. That will be the Judge in trail u saw in first hearing (small town), I put in June date to put in a date.(it could be any month past that?) Lots of evidence & defense discovery to go through.!! His alibi. He was asleep.(camera in hallway never see him leave) car & phone 📱 pings against him being there . A lie & a setup? Can he go out his windows 🪟 to get out(2nd fl) are there cameras out in parking lot),? He got something up his sleeve to appear innocent.? Maybe a 4:30 am open door & in hallway in robe & slipper to bring in the Sunday paper? That would be a hoot!@
The legal process of innocent until proven guilty.. I get it but two looks at this dude and the affidavit. Zero emotion… if you were innocent you would be screaming!! Four innocent (probably beautiful) souls can no longer enjoy life and give their love to this world. He robbed humanity of positivity. I don’t even know the families but I love them so much❤️
you seem like such a sweet sensitive caring person with that username. fool
Thanks for your heartfelt commentary, bunghole...
A very nice comment. Why the disgusting and childish screen name?
Top notch work, Columbo. His "phone was off" for roughly the amount of time it takes to fully recharge a depleted battery.
Imagine one night, at 3AM, being 28 years old, a free man, with all life in front of you and 1Hr.20min later have it all destroyed.
Except you're all forgetting one thing Kaylee and Ethan did not live in that house Kaylee had moved out he'd been watching the house he wasn't watching it that night though so he didn't know that Kaylee and Ethan were there his targets were Maddie and Zana who worked at that restaurant that's what we're going to say watch
Cell pings back-up the Elantra video clips that place Bryan in the car during the alleged "stalking" drive-bys. But Moscow's cell tower serves the entire Moscow area, and is located 5.4 miles southeast of the murder site. Maybe Bryan drove around the house while waiting for the 4:00 am Door Dash delivery person to leave. It was a bit surprising to learn that some victims were not killed in their sleep, and that several people were awake in the house at the time of the murders. If Bryan ends up taking a plea, we may never know the full details.
@Jessie she read the affidavit!!!
It's pointing to a plea deal.
@stanleykowalski2228 Yes DM seeing the killer in the hallway still terrifies me. I couldn't listen any further. It reminded me of that movie The Strangers. I still can't watch that movie to this day!
That happened to someone I know , he was awoken in the night , and three masked men pinned him down while the 4th , it was a female , but she was wearing a 18 inch strap on dildo, and she managed after about 20 minutes of punishing his sphinx , to go balls deep inside him , I remember he told me he thought it was going to come out of his mouth he said he shit all over the place after they were done with him
Plea deal? Why would they offer that when they have so much on him?
they will NOT get a rock solid conviction simply from the stupid sheath and his phone pings and his elantra, they need something must stronger and more convincing otherwise it will be circumstantial, we still need the 2 survivors to be greatly GRILLED by the defense team, there are literally dozens of questions these 2 especially DM need to asked, and "I WAS IN SHOCK AND SCARED" will not be a good enough answer as to why you saw something suspicious that made you scared that you had to lock yourself in your room, but you didnt call the cops, AND you say you saw his eye brows but you didnt see him holding a knife, which he had too be because he lost the sheath, all this in DARKNESS, yet on the other hand people will say THE LIGHTS WERE ON, oh really, WHY DIDNT YOU SEE THE BLOOD WHICH MUST HAVE BEEN EVERYWHERE? so you could see someones stupid eye brows but not the mass of blood everywhere after 4 killings? oh really,i call BS. and by the way 21 yr old are NOT KIDS, if a 21 yr old shot up a school, would you be calling him a kid? NO, but i guess when 21 yr olds are victims than they are kids right? lol give me a break
Every body is just saying yes to soothe the family. How many times have we seen these so called evidence that ends up not to be complete or true?
Good luck to them finding a jury that hasn't heard about this case. I'm in Ireland in Europe hanging off my phone for updates on this case. My daughter is only 19 so I don't think I could bear to be on the jury. How will they find 12 people who haven't heard about this.
It's okay for the jury to hear about the case (obviously cannot be hidden), but they just have to be impartial.They could find him guilty, but they can recommend life in prison, not death. A judge issued a gag order toward this case to prevent the media and potential witnesses to find out and talk about the specific details and ALL the info the police have about the case and pass it over to the world. Also, the judge did that to prevent a mistrial. We all know he was caught by his own DNA at the scene and his car and stuff, but we don't know what else the police have.
"Pinned to the wall"? Like they had Casey Anthony pinned to the wall? Like they had OJ pinned to the wall? The evidence is very strong and they had a compelling affidavit to support arresting him. Inferring that this (or any case like this) is a slam dunk this early in the game is a bit premature, at the very least.
There was no DNA evidence on a murder weapon (sheath in this case) in either of the cases you mentioned, nor was there cell phone data pinning them to the murder scene.
@@slaystep1751 the shoe prints left at the Nicole Simpson Ron Goldman murder scene were so rare that 300 pairs had been sold worldwide, and OJ happened to have a pair. Don't say nothing tied him to that scene because that is a lie.
@@slaystep1751 There was DNA evidence in the OJ Simpson trial. There was blood in OJ's Bronco that belonged to Nicole and Ron Goldman. I don't remember if somehow they got that blood evidence thrown out on some technicality, or if back in 1995 DNA was so new to the public that they didn't believe in it yet. They for sure had Simpson "pinned to the wall" but somehow he still got away with it. Look what Simpson did after the crime, he was in the slow speed chase sitting in the back seat of the Bronco with a gun ready to kill himself. That isn't the behavior of an innocent man, especially a rich, famous "beloved" innocent man who likely isn't going to be wrongfully convicted.
Yeah sorry dude can’t draw a contrast with either of those cases. DNA will bone you over every time. Every contact leaves a trace… forensics 101
The glove didn’t fit OJ and so they had to Acquit… BTW what a massive blunder by the prosecution letting OJ try on that glove..you never let the defendant touch evidence.. and as for Casey well I guess there was no smoking gun as they say… and Jose Baez confused the hell out that jury.. calling everything junk science they basically had an answer for everything…
Thank you Chief Fry!!!!!!
Going through this guys phone and computer is going to be huge, can't wait!!
former FBI agent ? she was only there for 1 1/2 years before she drug up. Why is she such some expert on anything ?
She perty for my TV, I love her so smart opinion and guessing stuff
They haven't even got the jury picked, and the media is throwing it out there that he's guilty already. Gee, that's not going to taint juries.
I actually haven't heard ANY news outlets or reporters call him anything but the accused.
do you think he wanted to get caught?
Kaylee or Maddie spurned him, she was his target and I think everyone suspects that, but he enjoys killing. Perhaps he didn't see Dylan, perhaps he was exhausted and didn't want to fight an awake person, coward that he is. Maybe she closed the door and he assumed she had called the police already and he was out of time, as evidenced by his rapid egress from Kings Road "at a high rate of speed".
Xana and Ethan were awake, I'm thinking. She was on TikTok at 4:12 and he was in his car screeching off at 4:20. The audio has Ethan yelling, “Leave her alone!“ and then him screaming right at 4:17 am.
@@ninabobina2006 What audio?
I’m just glad they finally have this creeper. He is 💯 guilty.
It's disturning how the media is using the term 'first kill' instead of first murder. They make it sound like game, sport or hunting. Making an equivalence between humans and animals is disturbing.
What should they say First Blood.
So the question will be - did he search idaho murders Before the police were called? While at the coffee shop? He went back to house because the news didn't come out yet and he was waiting for discovery
Right. I'm curious to see his searches
Perhaps he returned to retrieve the knife sheath?🕵️♂️
Maybe he called Dylan to look for the sheath and “she” said no.
After the trial he'll write a book entitled.."If I did it"
And he'll be just as guilty was the other one who used that title was. 😬
"Former" FBI agent at such a young age suggests she couldnt cut it. She certainly doesnt sound very smart with the facts of the case. Defense attorneys are posting that that they could easily present reasonable doubt and yet this former agent is saying that they have the defendant pinned against the wall.
They have to use some kind of clickbait title to snag people & bring their interest in
They may thing it's reasonable doubt, but I don't think a jury will.
the great majority of us would not be able to live with themselves after carrying out such a heinous bloody act!!!
But not a demon possessed person. They have NO feelings for anyone except themselves. No conscience. Its seared. No remorse. Just empty as a nutshell
BK doesn't look concerned that he's been charged with this crime. He looks like he's enjoying the attention.
KB's life as he knew it is basically over (very grim). Audience wishes his victim's survivors all the best. Cheers!
What I want to know is how in the hell did they surveille his parents home in a gated community without being obvious ~ unless they swore a neighbor to secrecy and they allowed them to park in their driveway or use one of their spare bedrooms. Out of curiosity, I really hope this comes out in the trial. They would have notified the security guards at the gate, too (if there were some).
I’d like to know that too?! But it possibly might not be disclosed so as not to jeopardise surveillance work on future similar cases but great work from L.E.
I have been wondering this also. The FBI must’ve added their expertise. It was said that they were dressed up as garbage men to acquire DNA from their trash. Maybe they were playing dress up the entire time.
Someone posted one of those aviation maps where they track planes and it showed loads of circular aircraft patterns above the area where his dad lives. That could have something to do with it. However, they probably just laid in the boot of a car or back of a van with some cameras.
They do it from a far with scopes, binoculars, etc. They'll lay in wooded areas, tall grasses, etc. They will even rent out house(s) nearby. The FBI doesn't mess around
This guys eyes are dead. Rip those poor victims, breaks my heart
How can you just be a well educated guy and possibly bright future and just f..k it all up? I mean killing 4 ppl not a dui or scuffle in a bar etc..he went right to the maximum most heinious thing you can do to someone. Take their life.its unreal really.
The experts said first timers don't start with 4 victims. They are trying to see if he ties to other murders with fewer victims. Murderers work their way up in number and complexity, they said.
How did he get the combinationto the door
has he given a plea yet?
What is most important is making sure he gets the proper cell mate. Find him a cell mate that will take him apart at the joints, paint the entire room floor walls ceiling, and do it on the night the CO who would leak photos to the internet was working.
The motive is those girls' beauty. Just look at them...... there's nothing else to say. Pure jealousy as he was probably rejected by them/their friend group.
What’s the motive? This lady’s answer made no sense.
Here's one of the biggest questions of the entire case and I haven't heard one single person in the media or podcasts ask. How did he know he would be able to get in the house that morning? How did he know that they didn't have an alarm system?
The sheath was labeled with "Ka-Bar" and "USMC," and had a United States Marine Corps insignia stamped on the outside, the affidavit says.
If not fake thing meps gear thing on repeat
That means nothing.
She's so polite but it's OK to say he was STUPID! LOL
He probably thought he was too smart to get caught.
This couldn’t had been his first murder spree. Scary 😮
Glad to see coverage that is absent of that Banfield person. Her airhead approach to interviewing became obvious during this case. I hope she resigns. She's had a long enough career and needs to move be on to The View or something.
She's terrible but it has nothing to do with her age. Ageist of you. Reporting your comment for bullying.
@@joralemonvirgincreche I'm the same age as her so whatever
@@joralemonvirgincreche I edited to reflect your PC request 😘💋
@beaudile7730 wow! Yes, I said that she's too old (because I am the same age and have evolved from the position I was in while in my forties)! People are bored this evening. I take it y'all aren't very old? Oops! I think I did it again!
Y'all need to quit bullying me! I'm going to report you if you don't delete your bully attack on me!!!!!
Why is nobody remembering the people going in and out of the house walking all over the crime scene, b4the pd showed up? Thats not good for the prosecution
They must have gotten all that kind of thing sorted out & delt with & recorded. There's alote we don't know yet. Things are comming up the pike.
HOW would he know the interior layout of that house so well???
It’s crazy to me how similar he looks to Ted Bundy and the fact he went after Srat/Frat persons is eerie and terrifying.
I actually believe it's the sheath that connects him more than the car because of the DNA. That sheath is in the house on the bed of two of the victims. I found out through experts in other videos that cellphone towers can not exactly pinpoint your location. It just means you are pretty close to that tower.
What a bonehead play for a would-be master criminal.
You’re correct!
The knife could have been stolen from his property with his dna on it. 😊
The car was scene on video by the house, neighbors have camera's and they tracked him in many videos.
I think the combo of the two will nail him.
Some of the best coverage of this is right here on News Nation; thank you. As for this being his “first kill”, I honestly think that if there had been kills before, he already would have been nailed for that one.
tell me your affiliated with out telling me
I don't think this is his 1st.
This was so sloppy that I can't imagine it wasn't his first. He would have been caught after the first time.
@@Littleone124 He left the sheath in a frenzy, he's 28 plenty old enough to have other things to come out, I'm sure they are investigating other unsolved cases where he have lived, looking for a match now that his DNA is in the system.
I hope they investigate the dog that was skinned in Moscow just weeks before the murders.
I still do not understand why it took 8 hours before calling 911??? Why friends were called first instead of calling 911??? What happened during that time frame after the crime and the 911 call??
💀💀💀💀 she said he may have gone to a party to familiarize himself with the layout of the house 😱😱😱😱
Completely chilling!!!!
he may have done this before
Rookie mistakes left and right
I believe he has done this before, this was not his first one,I believe, if they really, investigated some of the other murders, they probably, could connect him to them..
He knew them, they knew him.
It's written between the lines in the affidavit.
Edit: I am wrong, I read the affidavit again, and what I was referring to is not in there.
Does anyone know where the info came from about the survivors picking BK out of the 6 pack lineup of drivers license pics?
Where?
Wasn't he following Maddie and Kaylee on instagram? I thought I had seen that on one of these news shows. There was a screen grab from where you can actually see that someone is or isn't following another account.
@@ninabobina2006 I saw that too
@@bethanygates864
No, I was wrong.
@@ninabobina2006
I don't know about the Instagram thing.
I don't trust anything that isn't an official statement from the police, or in the affidavit, know what I mean?
The cam video of his car does it actually show him in the car. He could say he wasn't driving. Just a thought
HOW can his family still stand by him?
The families always cover for each other; at least most times.
I keep hearing Kaylee was his target. If so, how did he know Kaylee would be in that home on that particular night? From my understanding, she had recently moved out. Perhaps someone else in the home was his main obsession/target?
ALWAYS more to the story! This is for entertainment not pursuit of justice.
@@Chad_Max she was the Target because her father can't stay off of the news media.
During the Highway Patrol stop, BK told the officer a mass shooting happened at a university, his father also said a shooting. Both knew the murders were stabbings. I think his Dad knew KB murdered them.
There was a shooting at his college, a guy was shot by police who was threatening his roomates. I think the dad is innocent.
The shooting was in Pullman, Washington, where they had left.
Oh, I didn't hear about a shooting. Still, why bring it up? Funny how they ignored the Idaho 4 murders and the White Elantra watch that had just came out less than a week earlier. I think his Dad was used. He being the elderly man upfront makes for less suspicion in a White Elantra, kinda ploy.
A DNA match to his father, who was his dad - wow, FBI training sure is top notch!
Oh well, he must be guilty this "former FBI agent" says so. Why bother having a trial when Tracy has past judgement.