I've used a vertical mouse since 2016 for productivity work. I initially got it to help with "mouse shoulder", an RSI from using the mouse for long periods of time. The vertical mouse helped reduce the pain in my shoulder significantly. I found that I could significantly reduce forearm strain when using it by moving the entire forearm from the elbow, as opposed to moving my wrist at all. My biggest complaint is that after some time, the Anker vertical mouse I have had its surface become tacky/sticky. Luckily, they're cheap enough to replace when this happens, but I've wanted to try one of the Logitech vertical mice to see if they avoid this problem As for regular mice, I've found that the ultra-light gaming mice tend to work the best for reducing strain, because they just don't have the bulk other mice do. But, they do tend to lack the features of a productivity-focused mouse - no secondary scroll wheel, limited extra buttons in general, no infinite-scroll features. But they do work ok, especially when paired with something like the Deltahub Carpio
Long post warning. Third/fourth paragraph and down have the helpful info if you want to skip. I have similar problems with my wrist and arm when using a standard mouse. I converted to using a trackball for 3D modeling for about 5 years now and it seemed to help greatly. However, within the last year and a half I started to get those same discomforts/pains when using the trackball. My journey brought me down a similar path and I found that switching between them helped a lot. However, I game a lot too and using anything but a standard mouse just didn't help, so I kept looking. I would recommend tying some wrist rests. I started with a standard one. But after a while I noticed it didn't help. Actually use a brace for a bit and that helped greatly. But was impractical. I have recently tried the Carpio 2.0 and the Reloot glider. They have definitely changed the game! I would recommend the reboot glider for everyday tasks. In my experience it glides better and has a nice soft texture that feels good while still supporting well. The Carpio I use for gaming now. Tried the one with the strap cause I was a little tired of having to readjust sometimes with the Reloot. The carpio doesn't glad AS smooth as the reloot, but if you started out with the carpio you probably wouldn't notice like I did. Overall they have taken away the pain and discomfort I have when using a normal mouse and while I don't use them with the track ball I don't get any pain/discomfort using it now. Would highly recommend and please let me know if you do and it helps!!
Thanks for your comment! I do have a carpio and use it for the regular mouse. I find it helps with the lower wrist pain a bit, but not so much fro my upper forearm.
That's fair! I've never had upper forearm pain when using a mouse thankfully. All of it centers around the wrist, so what you said fits quite well. Also I'm glad to hear you have used it too. This way others can get another opinion on the carpio. I wish you the best in your journey and maybe one day we'll have a mouse that can actually help all of us that deal with this🤞
I really need something like the logi MX mouse, but in XL size. I have large hands and need something that sit's in the palm of my hand snugly. The cherry on the cake would be maybe a 10 degree tilt.
Ive had this issue, and what fixed it was stretching and regular exercise and forearm strengthening exercises... Basically, go to the gym man, it does wonders to all kinds of pain.
@@natee_lamm Maybe it’s the posture in which you use these things, try to see where is your pain. You must be using it in stressful positions like if you keep your laptop close to your body the hand needs to bend in difficult angles and that overtime can cause the pain keep and eye on that and adjust
I noticed the same, and the music didnt fit the video in my opinion. It had too many high notes, like 1:25-1:50 for example. 2:35 music was a lot better.
I switched to a vertical mouse and won't go back.Completely got rid of all my hand issues, for awhile I could not use my PC for more than 30 minutes without extreme pain.
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I've used a vertical mouse since 2016 for productivity work. I initially got it to help with "mouse shoulder", an RSI from using the mouse for long periods of time. The vertical mouse helped reduce the pain in my shoulder significantly. I found that I could significantly reduce forearm strain when using it by moving the entire forearm from the elbow, as opposed to moving my wrist at all. My biggest complaint is that after some time, the Anker vertical mouse I have had its surface become tacky/sticky. Luckily, they're cheap enough to replace when this happens, but I've wanted to try one of the Logitech vertical mice to see if they avoid this problem
As for regular mice, I've found that the ultra-light gaming mice tend to work the best for reducing strain, because they just don't have the bulk other mice do. But, they do tend to lack the features of a productivity-focused mouse - no secondary scroll wheel, limited extra buttons in general, no infinite-scroll features. But they do work ok, especially when paired with something like the Deltahub Carpio
thanks for that info!
I will have to give the utlra-light mouse a try sometime
Just found your channel, and it is super interesting with well made videos! Keep up the good work!
Glad you like them!
Long post warning. Third/fourth paragraph and down have the helpful info if you want to skip.
I have similar problems with my wrist and arm when using a standard mouse. I converted to using a trackball for 3D modeling for about 5 years now and it seemed to help greatly.
However, within the last year and a half I started to get those same discomforts/pains when using the trackball. My journey brought me down a similar path and I found that switching between them helped a lot. However, I game a lot too and using anything but a standard mouse just didn't help, so I kept looking.
I would recommend tying some wrist rests. I started with a standard one. But after a while I noticed it didn't help. Actually use a brace for a bit and that helped greatly. But was impractical.
I have recently tried the Carpio 2.0 and the Reloot glider. They have definitely changed the game!
I would recommend the reboot glider for everyday tasks. In my experience it glides better and has a nice soft texture that feels good while still supporting well.
The Carpio I use for gaming now. Tried the one with the strap cause I was a little tired of having to readjust sometimes with the Reloot. The carpio doesn't glad AS smooth as the reloot, but if you started out with the carpio you probably wouldn't notice like I did.
Overall they have taken away the pain and discomfort I have when using a normal mouse and while I don't use them with the track ball I don't get any pain/discomfort using it now.
Would highly recommend and please let me know if you do and it helps!!
Thanks for your comment! I do have a carpio and use it for the regular mouse. I find it helps with the lower wrist pain a bit, but not so much fro my upper forearm.
That's fair! I've never had upper forearm pain when using a mouse thankfully. All of it centers around the wrist, so what you said fits quite well.
Also I'm glad to hear you have used it too. This way others can get another opinion on the carpio.
I wish you the best in your journey and maybe one day we'll have a mouse that can actually help all of us that deal with this🤞
I really need something like the logi MX mouse, but in XL size. I have large hands and need something that sit's in the palm of my hand snugly. The cherry on the cake would be maybe a 10 degree tilt.
Ive had this issue, and what fixed it was stretching and regular exercise and forearm strengthening exercises... Basically, go to the gym man, it does wonders to all kinds of pain.
Been going for quite awhile now and I have found improvements, but no where near where I was before thus injury
Have you tried a Trackpad, I had this issue and moving to a trackpad helped sometimes using a combo of trackpad and a mouse. Give it a try and see.
i do bounce between my laptop trackpad as well but my fingers ache using it sometimes
@@natee_lamm Maybe it’s the posture in which you use these things, try to see where is your pain. You must be using it in stressful positions like if you keep your laptop close to your body the hand needs to bend in difficult angles and that overtime can cause the pain keep and eye on that and adjust
Have you tried any finger based trackball mice? Like the ones from Kensington, they allow much more precision and are exceptionally comfortable.
not yet but I'll take a look at that!
cool vid, found the music a bit too loud though.
I noticed the same, and the music didnt fit the video in my opinion. It had too many high notes, like 1:25-1:50 for example. 2:35 music was a lot better.
thanks for the feedback! I will lower it next time
Cool vid, was quite informative 👍
But I found the song to be a bit too loud to focus on your voice
noted! Thank you
I switched to a vertical mouse and won't go back.Completely got rid of all my hand issues, for awhile I could not use my PC for more than 30 minutes without extreme pain.
thats wonderful! I do see its benefits and it has helped me a bit as well
Isn't the intent with the vertical mouse that almost all cursor movement is done with the entire arm?
I hold mine with the fingertips and can do half my large screen without moving my arm at all.
maybe i've been doing it wrong all this time haha - I'll give that a shot
what about trackball mouse that use the index or middle finger instead of the thumb?
someone else suggested that too, I'll have to take a look at those
Damn, u have so high quality videos but just 500 views. + Sub
thanks!
Solid vid. Try swimming next to rest.
thats a good idea! been meaning to get into it
the most annoying thing that they all come with a low poling rate which hurt my eyes way more than arms. But probably it's a macOS thing
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thank you!