I spent 1 year searching for a perfect mouse for Mac

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  • The best mouse for Mac. MX Master 3S, the Apple Magic Mouse, a Razer mouse and other gaming mice with my Mac to try and find the best mouse for Mac. It had to be a Bluetooth mouse and have a short wireless dongle (preferably a USB-C dongle). And I think I found one.
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  • @bogxd
    @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    Recent studies on mouse ergonomics suggest that scrolling back up to smash the like button increases wrist strength by 7.3% on average

    • @slob5041
      @slob5041 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      my doctor agrees!

    • @varunchelikani7891
      @varunchelikani7891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how is the battery liffffffee

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      polling rate has nothing to do with refresh rate of monitor, same goes for disabling acceleration, don't do this on a mac.
      use the magic mouse, there is nothing out there comparable, this software and hardware is very sophisticated. you just brought a "mind virus" from the pc world over to mac.
      mac acceleration is supreme and useful, if you use 1 monitor or 6 it's a breeze.
      what the other mices lack is the whole multitouch world on which the mac is build on.
      but forget all of this, nobody ever uses a macbook with a mouse, the trackpad is better period
      the more you use it and the more you learn how to use it the faster you will get, it is absolutely not like a windows laptop where a mouse is basically mandatory because the trackpads, while improved a lot on the hardware side, still suck ass on the software side and will so for another decade is my guess.
      to test a mouse you have to use it for 3 months at least till your muscles adapt, almost everybody misses right there.
      don't use pointer modification software or acceleration modification software, they all are terrible and ruin everything by slowing down everything.
      my tip is to deactivate touch click and enable triple drag.
      there is a lot to learn and to adapt to, which takes time, for your muscles and your brain.

  • @kriglics
    @kriglics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I was looking for a solution for the same issue for a long time, but always gave up after trying the Magic mouse and the MX, but you came with the clutch ! Thank you .

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha cheers!

  • @Clem-Villatte
    @Clem-Villatte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Perfect tone, cool motion design, great storytelling - your content is great! 🙌🏻

  • @Puggie
    @Puggie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    You are able to disable mouse pointer acceleration directly from macOS, this was added in macOS Sonoma. Should be under System Settings > Mouse > Advanced

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      oh, finally they added it into settings! ty for letting me know

    • @IzaanFitness
      @IzaanFitness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it feel horrible after disable it it how lol?

    • @OpenDeepLearning
      @OpenDeepLearning หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, bro!

  • @UchihaAditya
    @UchihaAditya 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I did not know about refresh rate and its working. Learnt something new.
    This was crisp and yet filled with great details. Damn, so hard to find such tech review videos these days.

  • @ericzayya
    @ericzayya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for this extensive review. I’ve been searching for a “perfect” non-laggy BT mouse for my Mac. I’ll definitely try Keychron M3.

  • @felipemagalhaes567
    @felipemagalhaes567 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I have the MX Master 3S for 2 years now using with a M1 Max macbook. Never had any issues about it. I even game with it sometimes.

    • @rogo61
      @rogo61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same, I'm still using the M3 and have never had any issues with it either. M2 Max here.

    • @indieNerd
      @indieNerd หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You are lucky. My Mx master 3 has driven me crazy with the lagging and jitters. I was so excited to use this mouse but it turned out to be a huge disappointment.

    • @sammahasona
      @sammahasona หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have used the MX 2S for so many years now. No issues whatsoever. The charge still lasts for months.

    • @sammahasona
      @sammahasona หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@indieNerd Are you using the provided software to configure the buttons. I don't know if that helps but. I had it installed since day 1.

    • @indieNerd
      @indieNerd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sammahasona yes, i have tried with Logitech software and without. I have two mac books and it only happens on m1 macbooks. With windows this mouse is amazing. Either mac os or logitech driver is to blame here but in any case I can’t use mx master with m1 macs.

  • @fo0barDE
    @fo0barDE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:16 thanks for the notebook flip, i really enjoyed that.

  • @robertseals9165
    @robertseals9165 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that middle click button note changed my life. So useful! like just for that tip alone. Then add the website for mouse testing this was the best thing I have watched in awhile.

  • @technikerwolfd8918
    @technikerwolfd8918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    6:50 you changed my life with this trick

    • @blanke_bolster
      @blanke_bolster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      damn, it even works in windows

    • @aknahin
      @aknahin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same here... I be lyk: wait, whaaat. Then open a new tab in my Microsoft Edge and it works...

    • @thomascolasante6280
      @thomascolasante6280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually wild

    • @joelsmith7944
      @joelsmith7944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's an app for Mac called MiddleClick that lets you three-finger tap on the trackpad for a middle click

    • @dimoronen
      @dimoronen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do you guys not know this?
      Here are some more common chrome hotkeys: Ctrl W to close current tab, Ctrl Shift T to reopen last closed tab (great if you misclick), Ctrl Tab to go to next tab and Ctrl Shift Tab to go to previous tab. There are variations of this on mac, I guess the command key instead of ctrl.

  • @mcluvin28x
    @mcluvin28x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video is so clutch, I had no clue about latency n bluetooth connections n all that. I was just going for coolest looking 😅

  • @konstidog
    @konstidog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Thought I'd let you know, there's apps like Mos you can use on macOS to get smooth scrolling with a scroll wheel mouse. If memory serves me right, you can even use it to set your mouse to reversed scrolling direction while keeping your trackpad scroll direction natural. Hope that helps you c:

    • @bren.r
      @bren.r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah I use Mos mainly for the reversed scrolling feature while keeping trackpad natural.

    • @rhylin26
      @rhylin26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The fact that you can’t set the track pad and scroll wheel separate is so annoying.

    • @konstidog
      @konstidog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wait, does it affect both? i thought with mos it only switches it over for mouse input

    • @franpanxop
      @franpanxop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually you can do that on native Mac mouse settings 👀

    • @konstidog
      @konstidog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@franpanxop the setting applies to both the trackpad and mouse though, i thought

  • @truongnguyenkhanh8356
    @truongnguyenkhanh8356 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Happy new year!!! I would love if you could make a video comparing popular clipboard managers for macos.

  • @cuate2006
    @cuate2006 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi there. I've been looking for this exact content after trying several! Just ordered the Keychron M3. Tried to order it through your link but I'm in Canada and had to switch to the Canadian site. Great info! New sub.

  • @hypno0784
    @hypno0784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Recently got the Logitech M650. Comes with side buttons, silent click, Bluetooth, a magnetic scroll wheel (which is different from and not as crappy as the MX3S), a battery instead of charging, grippy side texture, and gestures while holding the middle button. Snagged it for $18 in a sale and couldn't be more happy. In fact, I like it more than my MX2S due to its size and weight.

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That sounds really nice, especially for the price. Are you using it with a dongle or via Bluetooth? I'm curious if the bluetooth connection lags or not

    • @hypno0784
      @hypno0784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bogxd Using it with the dongle. The Bluetooth is shit because my 2017 air has only Bluetooth 4. But when I tried this mouse with my brother's M1 Air, it worked pretty well

    • @vpstateofmind
      @vpstateofmind 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Came here to suggest this , am saving up for this mouse , and I think it's the best option for my m1 air.

    • @liuliukiu
      @liuliukiu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my m650 was shit using it with the mac pro 2021 with terrible delay and lag. I have to use an app called LinearMouse to disable pointer acceleration for it to function normally.

    • @LegoKiva
      @LegoKiva 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im curious, what didn’t you like about the mx3s? I finally pulled the trigger after finding it for half off but if I’m going to get tired of it, I want to know! 😂
      EDIT: after re-reading your comment I’m realizing you specified the scroll wheel. What did you mean by that? And was it the only issue you had?

  • @mortymort7075
    @mortymort7075 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video. Looooove the background music and the narrating that fits perfectly alongside it.

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Damn, thanks!

  • @the.regulargamer
    @the.regulargamer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    The bluetooth lag on the MX Master 3S is so strange. Ive never had that problem. Ive used it on my 13” MBP-M1 and my 16” MBP-M2Pro. Works perfectly fine with no lag. And i also have a MX Master 3 and MX Anywhere 3 for Mac which both work perfectly fine with no lag. Mouse cursor never stutters or teleports.

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That’s so strange, I tried the white version, returned it and got the black one, and both had the same issue

    • @AntonBlaschuk
      @AntonBlaschuk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      same here, but I have MX Master 2S and older 15in MBP 2019. No issues at all on bluetooth, didn't feel any difference with Windows machine on dongle. And I think I'm picky in that regard, mice and keyboard and display experience should be smooth otherwise it's a deal breaker usually

    • @giviz
      @giviz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same, I've used the MX Master for a few years on a MacBook 16 and never had any lag issue. I really like that mouse!@@AntonBlaschuk

    • @vijaychhuttani25
      @vijaychhuttani25 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here. Using MX series since 2 years.. never lagged.

    • @SniperMayer
      @SniperMayer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've had it on multiple units, just like my gf, who is also using them. It's been an issue for the Master 2s as well on both intel and M series macs. It is so annoying for a mouse this expensive. (we tried both the bluetooth and dongle version too, still the same)

  • @dandemler1638
    @dandemler1638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have two MX Master 3S and they’re always connected via Bluetooth to Macs. I’ve never had any connection issues. It could be interference from other devices but I assume that would affect other mice too.
    I used to use a Razer Basilisk via Bluetooth and that did have lag from time to time, especially when I joined video calls.

  • @mathysrituper5424
    @mathysrituper5424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Keychron just recently released the M6, a MX Master alternative that is half the price and with advertised MacOs compatibility, as well as USB-C Dongle. I've had it for a month so far and I'm satisfied with it :)

    • @junechevalier
      @junechevalier 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for the info! I was considering getting the MX master 3, but then I saw your comment and now I'll be able able to save up a little bit of money :D

    • @ModernTenshi04
      @ModernTenshi04 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely looks nice, but it also looks to be lacking my favorite feature of the MX Master line: the thumb rest button. Using it to handle virtual desktops in macOS makes things very seamless. For the price though it does look to be a very nice alternative.

    • @iiwajd
      @iiwajd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is your mac? And are you still satisfied?

    • @mathysrituper5424
      @mathysrituper5424 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiwajdMacbook pro M1 14 inch, M1 Pro CPU. Still satisfied with the mouse itself, although I broke the USB-C dongle by mishandling it, but I must say it is quite fragile. Bluetooth connectivity took over and it does an excellent job (much better than keychron bluetooth keyboards I must say)

    • @silentwater79
      @silentwater79 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was also looking into the M6, but the Scroll Wheel is subpar compared to the Scroll Wheel of the MX3. And as a Software Dev, I Scroll a lot through masses of Source Code. So the Scroll Wheel of the MX3 is something I don't want to miss anymore. At home I use the MX3. On the go, I use the MX Anywhere 3, which has a similar Scroll Wheel.

  • @sven7432
    @sven7432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, what do you think of the asus rog Harpe aim lab edition? Do you think it will work good with Mac?

  • @flottenheimer
    @flottenheimer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff. Thanks. Looking at the Keychron M3 Mini (!) just now...

  • @kensyootoob
    @kensyootoob 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice thorough walkthrough! Enjoyed :) Cheers!

  • @badmuse
    @badmuse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The editing and pacing on this is delightful! One of the few videos on the platfrom I don't want to watch at 1.5-2x speed. Six and seven figure viewcounts are in your future.

  • @blurri_10
    @blurri_10 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your manim animations are so damn cool and advanced! Keep it up man

  • @maxlight9258
    @maxlight9258 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what macbook are you using? i have a macbook m1 and i have problems with bluetooth mouse (low hz). as far as i know this problem almost everyone has this problem.

  • @daviddocs2928
    @daviddocs2928 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I also went through the same hunt… The solution is the Keychron M6 mouse: high polling rate, great ergonomics and a usb c dongle!

  • @ebeisaac7700
    @ebeisaac7700 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review! Happy to know there’s a Mac compatible software for Keychron M3. Does it work for the M4 version as well?

  • @sturmx96
    @sturmx96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:17 That was a cool trick. Also I found myself using mac's trackpad rather than mx master 2 mouse. It's absolutely great for my workflow as a designer, the only con is that 3 finger drag is not applied to the layers sometimes so you have to click on the trackpad and drag the layer so the changes are saved.

  • @peterpang5759
    @peterpang5759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am using a Logitech MX3 mouse on my 2019 16" Macbook Pro. No latency as you mentioned. Polling rate is at 120hz, max art 135hz. Not sure why you are experiencing this. Had one in the office for my M2 Max Mac Studio, not suffering these issues at all. Did you install the Logitech app for the mouse?

  • @muscy2637
    @muscy2637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 3S and I’ve honestly barely used it because of the Bluetooth tracking lag issue, happens both on my M2 MacBook Air and M1 Pro 14” MBP, along with other machines. Even carried over after getting a free mouse replacement. Honestly for a mouse with my mac, I’ve just used my Logitech G Pro Superlight with a small dongle to put it into USB-C from USB-A, and customized a couple mouse binds to make it work for me

  • @alexclairmont
    @alexclairmont 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you just BLEW MY MIND with the two scroll click tricks !!! cant believe i've never known or heard about that before. shocked that i didn't have to map anything either it was just automatically working :o i've been clicking the little X to close tabs and right clicking links my entire life to select open link in a new tab 😭

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was exactly my reaction when I found out about it too haha, thx for watching

  • @Bitz00.
    @Bitz00. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the animations are so simple but so good

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🫡

  • @_kopiter_
    @_kopiter_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all good, but how do you set up scrolling? by default there is also acceleration on scrolling, which means, just a small click of the wheel won't do anything.. On the logitech I managed to set it up nicely, though it's still non-linear.

  • @baconberries8097
    @baconberries8097 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The sad thing about the magic mouse to me is that the good is really good! Using it in school in illustrator and Photoshop, i liked how intuitive it was moving around an image by just scrolling on the top. It's a shame that no one else has made any "touch mice" because i think it's ripe for innovation.

    • @skyscall
      @skyscall 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nobody else has made any "touch mice" for Mac, simply because Apple won't _let_ anyone else. No other mouse is allowed to access the same controls as it.

  • @TutorialsByLarry
    @TutorialsByLarry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the awesome explanation, this video was fantastic. And seriously thanks for your great sense of humor, I literally laughed at least three times during the video.

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @RVNmedic
    @RVNmedic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for doing the research.

  • @chasemcdude3781
    @chasemcdude3781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which Hz did you get I have the option for 4000hz or 1000hz? I have a MacBook Air m1

  • @davidbcg286
    @davidbcg286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have used the Logitech Triathlon for a few years now (I have one at home and one at the office). Really really happy with it, I did not encounter the issues you mentioned with the MX3, and I solely use it on bluetooth.

    • @justthien
      @justthien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Logitech mice tend to lag and stutter a damn lot if there is one or more devices connected to the laptop via bluetooth, it got mentioned a lot on reddit

  • @MyNigellus
    @MyNigellus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally someone that understands. I didn't know that they keychron has a usb-c dongle, why is this so unpopular, all should have that option! You didn't mention how it is charged, I'd love a stand for that mouse of some sort

  • @estranged__
    @estranged__ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The middle click is indeed life changing. Thanks and subscribed

    • @sturmx96
      @sturmx96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you shorten the lifespan of your mousewheel with it. All these mouses are going to have scroll issues after 1-2 years of use that's for sure. The only one that holds is mx master because of its optical encoder wheel which has much better longevity compared to mechanical encoder which is used in all other mice even in high end gaming ones for 100 bucks.

  • @I-Luve-YouTube
    @I-Luve-YouTube หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what's the update on the keycron, is it still the best mouse for mac?

  • @shanangls
    @shanangls 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with the MX Master mouse! Tried both MX master and MX anywhere, and it was so laggy on my macbook air even when using the dongle. I settled with the g304 and it was the best mouse for me. Downside is it does not have a bluetooth connection.

  • @mohammedzaid5989
    @mohammedzaid5989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    the teleportation lag is due to interference of wifi and bluetooth signal on 2.4 GHz frequency. I turned of 2.4 GHz on my router and only operate it on 5 GHz and the problem went away just like that!

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about Logitech G604, a gaming mice with Bluetooth and a lot side buttons, is it good and recommended?

  • @regenschein71
    @regenschein71 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the detailed instructions. I got my mouse working again, but it immediately stopped after I put it back together. The I just loosened the two outer screws under the thumb button (the ones that are hidden beneath the wide glide pad) and now it seems to work.
    So, hint for everyone: try these two first before opening the whole mouse. Might save you some work.

  • @lumberfoot_jpg
    @lumberfoot_jpg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just bought the new M3 macbook pro, and I needed something (1) portable, (2) rechargeable, and (3) USB-C compatible. I initially bought a cheap Logitech bluetooth mouse because I'm very happy with my Logitech gaming mouse at home, however, the bluetooth connection was horrible and made the cursor micro stutter. After some research, I came across the Lenovo Go Mouse. It is absolutely fantastic! As it (1) fits in my small backpack zipper, (2) has a rechargeable battery, and (3) comes equipped with a super minimal USB-C 2.4GHz dongle which alleviated the micro stuttering from the last mouse. Overall, I highly recommend the Lenovo Go Mouse for anyone looking for sleek, simple, "forget about it" solution to using a mouse on the go with a macbook :)

  • @stuff_and_things_and_stuff
    @stuff_and_things_and_stuff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i dont have a mac and am never planning on getting one, yet i allways end up on you videos... why....
    good vid 👍

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      xd, thanks!

  • @XNaos
    @XNaos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you bought the MX 3 for Mac or with dongle? Apperently the for Mac version doesnt come with these caviats on Mac.

  • @milosjevic
    @milosjevic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    First of all, I have to admit that your video and suggestion have greatly improved my life. I have a MacBook Pro M1 and was dissatisfied with the MX Master 3S. The significant mouse lag, which many consider the best mouse in the world, is unacceptable. Yesterday, after watching your video, I decided to sell the MX Master 3S and buy the KeyChron M3. So far, I am thrilled with its responsiveness on my computer. I've never had such a smooth feeling, not even with the Apple Magic Mouse. This is one of the more useful videos I've watched, and I've become a new follower of your channel. Since you explained everything in detail in this video, I suggest you create more clips for MacBook, such as useful applications you use daily and similar tricks and tips like this one. All the best!

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ayee thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful!

    • @Mikri90
      @Mikri90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The MX Master 3 or 3s is an amazing mouse, but only on Windows. My experience on a Mac is exactly the same as yours (and of the video author) and frankly I have a hard time deciphering why on earth would anyone recommend this mouse for Macs. The support for it is terrible and the mouse just feels bad. Do people generally just have poor standards on what is a good mouse experience?
      My experience on Windows with it is awesome and I swear I will buy it again as soon as this one dies.

    • @milosjevic
      @milosjevic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mikri90 The last time I utilized Windows was eight years ago when I was using the MX Master 2 mouse, an experience that left me thoroughly impressed.
      Recently, I've noticed that many TH-camrs are using the MX Master 3S with their MacBook computers without encountering the issue that @bogxd and I are currently facing. It seems quite unusual.
      As described in this video, I have personally encountered all the issues associated with the MX Master 3S. However, since I purchased the Keychron M3 based on recommendation, I have been using it, and surprisingly, I have not experienced any lag issues at all.
      I thought it might be helpful to share this information with you, as it could provide some insight into the situation.

    • @MihaRekar
      @MihaRekar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mikri90I've used the MX Revolution, Master, Master 2, 3, and 3S, and never had a lag problem with any of them on any of my macs 🤷‍♂

    • @Mikri90
      @Mikri90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MihaRekar with a dongle or bluetooth?
      Performance is OK with a dongle, not as good as on my Windows machine, but not bad either.
      And btw it isn't lag per se, but input latency. It doesn't stutter or skip frames, it just isn't 1:1 with my hand motion. And btw that applies to my experience with the magic mouse as well, which, on top of having the input latency also has a terrible sensor.
      I know several people who swear by that mouse, and at this point I am not sure if people who have used Macs for years and decades now just have low standards for mouse performance or is it me who's just too picky. We don't all have the same expectations.
      No mouse I ever tried on Mac, matches my experience on Windows where the input latency is so small that it's as good as non-existent, and yes I have tried even my fast gaming mouse which is better than the MX Master 3 but not as good as it should be. The trackpad is awesome (the ones on Windows laptops usually suck) but I do need a mouse sometimes.
      But once again, the dongle performance is fine with me, it's the bluetooth performance that's terrible.
      Heck, I connected that same mouse over bluetooth to my fairly cheap Android phone and it was smoother and more responsive than on my Macbook. That should't really be happening, but that's how it is.

  • @maxmouse3
    @maxmouse3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. One thing to note is that you can enable smooth scrolling on any mouse using some third party apps. It's a bit annoying but there are FOSS apps for that :)

  • @Youdude2
    @Youdude2 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does the keychron have easy switch to multiple devices?

  • @s.tunafish
    @s.tunafish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think your Logitech must have been defected. I used it for about a year now and haven't had any issues (apart from the white finish not being completely white anymore). It's really ergonomic, smooth and has no connection problems whatsoever.
    Disclaimer: I'm using it on a Studio Display not a 120Hz MacBook.

  • @re7qi
    @re7qi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I had an MX Master 3S on Mac at 120hz - with same issues you mention. Now been using a Logitech G603 - got a great sensor (125hz or 1000hz polling) has lightspeed/bluetooth connections and 18 month battery life. Shame it's discontinued.

    • @mrBenSan
      @mrBenSan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES, the G603 it's near perfect! and you can use one or two batteries if you prefer a lighter or heavier feel and you can also map the side buttons directly for mission control or show the desktop

    • @cinefyl
      @cinefyl 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @re7qi has Logitech come out with a successor to this mouse?

  • @charlesc2095
    @charlesc2095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the video that Ive been looking for for the past decade. It always bugged me that every mouse that I bought for my several mac systems that I use all had horrendous bluetooth performance (and yes including the mx master). Latest one that Im using as my daily driver is the mx anywhere mouse and bluetooth mode just feels like crap. Now Im really tempted to try out the keychron one

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean, it will still have that "Bluetooth" feel. Just a little little bit of delay, but you can't really get around it. I only noticed it when switching from the dongle to Bluetooth. But yeah this one is the best Bluetooth experience I've had with any mouse so far.

    • @D37fit
      @D37fit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ME TOO! I’ve been looking for a mouse that doesn’t lag on Mac

    • @charlesc2095
      @charlesc2095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bogxd makes sense, although one of the things that makes logitech bluetooth connection feel extra meh is that it's like just a wee but short of feeling fine/acceptable. Maybe keychron's is within the "ok" range

  • @Aarondguez
    @Aarondguez หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you use the side buttoms to move between desktop screens?

  • @Lagdoo
    @Lagdoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review. I have Logitech G305 which is very similar to Keychron M3 and I feel very similar to you about the design and functions. The only difference is it has usb-a adaptor which is a bummer. But I use my mouse when I connect to my secondary screen at my workstation and I plugged the adaptor into the screen's USB-A. When I plug my Mac into the screen via type-c it automatically recognize the USB connections of the screen which is awesome because my wife also use the workstation. This way, who ever connects to the screen, controls the mouse and the keyboard. I have logitech mx keys and logitech g305 mouse as workstation setup. Also I use LG ergo 4k monitor.

  • @technocatdance
    @technocatdance 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    logitech m720 is actually pretty decent for the price and doesn't stutter that badly at all, I still opted for the MX master 3s because it is more ergonomic and reduces wrist strain for longer use, and I absolutely love the no click, wish all mouse had no stupid click noise, the lagging I do have sometimes but seems to be better by just turning it on and off, sometimes it doesn't lag that badly at all but other days have to restart it like 3 to 4 times

  • @sadmansajid5274
    @sadmansajid5274 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You literally changed my life by telling me what the mouse middle button does. never found a proper use for it in my whole 23 years using a computer.

  • @-expirius-5990
    @-expirius-5990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did you but Keychron M3 but not M6?
    Btw, I bought a combo with MX Keys S and MX Master 3S. I noticed that the mouse with the dongle was really lagging when it was in 70-80 cm (literally, I made measurements) from the receiver. It's weird because I tested a mouse that costs approximately 20-30$ and it behaived much more stable. But as far as I understood, not many people have the same issue. Maybe, my product is a defected one, I'm not sure. But it's sad because the functionality, design, and ergonomics are great. The only thing is lagging cursor that breaks everything

  • @skezzerino
    @skezzerino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    check please razer pro click / pro click mini
    looking for it to switch from mx master 3s, cause i need a "change desktop/spaces" gesture a lot but not loosing back/forward buttons
    and 2d question, connecting mx master 3s via dongle solves low mouse rate problem or it wil still be 120hz?

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which mouse are you using right now? Maybe you can create a macro to switch spaces. The MX Master 3s will still be at the same polling rate but the bluetooth lag will be gone, which is the the thing that makes the mouse feel so laggy

  • @digital-activity
    @digital-activity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the middle click on keychron be assigned to that tiny little button under the wheel?

  • @-Burb
    @-Burb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow I’m glad I came to the same conclusion as you even before watching this video haha, I ordered the Keychron M3 yesterday and today your video popped up in my recommended!
    Excited for it, I’m in a similar situation as you where I want a fast mouse for my Windows desktop and something with Bluetooth and preferably a USB C dongle for my MacBook. The M3 seemed to check all the boxes.
    Small question, is there a place to put the USB C dongle when it’s not in use? Like a compartment inside the mouse or anything?
    Nice review!

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Nop, there's nowhere to put the receiver

  • @r.bakker
    @r.bakker หลายเดือนก่อน

    Decided to buy a Keychron M3 because of this review. Thank you!

    • @comebackata2
      @comebackata2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you might want to look at the M6. just read it here in the comments

  • @philangundze1885
    @philangundze1885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Vid. I’d been using the Logitech MX Master 2 since its launch. Eventually it stopped working, currently using the Logitech Lift, underrated mouse.🔥🔥🔥

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers!

  • @jaehaerys48
    @jaehaerys48 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had a Logitech M325 that I've been using for around 9 years that seems to work well enough. The only problem is that it does use USB A, so I have to use a dongle. I don't really use it when traveling though so it's not a big deal. I also have an M350s that I bought for my iPad. I really like it... except for the scroll wheel, which isn't smooth.
    After watching this I may get a Keychron M3. Great video btw, I really liked the editing!

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @satyabhan6548
    @satyabhan6548 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been using the Mx Master 3 (not S) since 3 years now, and I occasionally switch between intel iMac 4k, MB Air M2, and a windows PC. Contrary to your experience, I've never once faced connection problems across any of my machines. It just performs brilliantly.
    The only 2 things I don't like about the mouse:
    a) The weight -its just too heavy
    b) The forward-backward buttons don't work with Safari (or maybe they do, I never cared about installing the Logi software)
    Also, one thing that no one mentions about the magic mouse is the feet that it uses to slide/ glide on surfaces - they tend to attract dirt and become sticky more frequently than any other mouse that I have ever tried, so much so that the mouse becomes annoying to use unless you wipe it with a damp cloth every other day. Never faced this problem with the MX master.

    • @BottyGuy
      @BottyGuy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have both the MX Master 3 and the MX Anywhere 3 and also haven't had any issues with either of them, they connect fine, and I can switch easily between two Macs.

    • @DenTube619
      @DenTube619 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Forward and backward buttons have never worked in Safari with any mouse I’ve used.

  • @jingpinhuicai
    @jingpinhuicai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should also try Keychron M6. It’s got the performance of the M3 and the design of a MX Master.

  • @ricardomilos857
    @ricardomilos857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been using MX Master 3S for a year, and it's perfect. The cursor is not teleporting, but it's lagging for 10-15 secs after you haven't used it for a long time (1-2 days).
    And, Master 3S has a lot of features, which are must-haves in Mac

  • @flarierza33
    @flarierza33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What software do you recommend to fix annoying scrolling that happens on all non-apple mouse?

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      linear mouse is a good option, there a tons of others though like mac mouse fix or mos

  • @HugoCostaCancio
    @HugoCostaCancio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you. I got a MX Master 3 and hated it every second. Thought I was going crazy - it looks nice, somewhat premium, but it's bad. Thank you for the video.

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ayee, thanks for watching!

    • @andreyyastrebtsov4367
      @andreyyastrebtsov4367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm, have zero issues with my MX 3s connected via bluetooth, more than that my keyboard is also wireless(nuphy air 75) and I also have redmi airdots pro bluetooth TWS headphones connected, and all this on 2017 macbook pro 13 inch. Everything works like a charm

    • @HugoCostaCancio
      @HugoCostaCancio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreyyastrebtsov4367 That’s amazing.

  • @SowrenSen
    @SowrenSen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me it is the MX Master 3. I've been using it for a year now and works great. I don't use the dongle cause the Bluetooth connection is really smooth. I never noticed any lag.

  • @Snayps
    @Snayps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't need to see the video (using trackpad only), but I love the thumbnail, you have my like and comment, keep going! ✨

  • @subsonicbass
    @subsonicbass 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you pair a Keychron wireless keyboard and mouse to the same dongle? Might be the feature that makes this an easy sell for me :)

  • @ashxskie
    @ashxskie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you should also check out their newer version the keychron M6 with horizontal scroll wheel too.

  • @shmewdie
    @shmewdie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the magic trackpad was looking to buy one for myself this holiday season. Any idea if its worth it??

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really depends on what you do with your mac, personally I find that I'm a lot more productive with a mouse since I edit a lot of videos and do stuff that requires a bunch of cursor movement. If I do it on the trackpad it's just slower. But the trackpad is nice if you're just browsing the web (because of the smooth scrolling), writing stuff, etc. Also all the Mac gestures will work right out of the box. So it mostly comes down to personal preference.

    • @shmewdie
      @shmewdie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bogxd this is really a good run down, I had wanted to purchase one because I loved working on it on my macbook for graphic designing. Not sure if its the same experience and worth the price but that is one thing I loved about the trackpad on my mac

  • @opiumgabe
    @opiumgabe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the USB-A to USB-C adapter that you're using?

  • @bLaffix
    @bLaffix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MX3 wireless with the dongle and USB-C to USB-A + Mos + Logi Options+. I've set the middle button click to switch between desktops depending on which direction I move the mouse to simulate the 3 finger swipe on the touchpad. Very useful for navigating between full screen apps.
    Yes, the dongle sticks out a bit, but the Bluetooth connection sucks as noted in the video.

  • @michalrz4667
    @michalrz4667 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very nice vid. I had same challange like around half year ago. Tested several mouses, but it was not pull frequency bud scrolling smoothies that was more important to me, I had great hopes towards Logitech MX house, but it occurred to be a total disaster. Ended up with Magic Mouse 2

  • @ChasedByPenguins
    @ChasedByPenguins 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kudos for 4:45 😄. But the Magic Mouse is still to me the best Mac Mouse period just because of the touch all-direction scrolling on top.

  • @AndreaMarinoReal1
    @AndreaMarinoReal1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got the razer orochi v2, other than the AA battery has been great, bluetooth is perfect. The build quality is very good, the sensor too and the battery life is incredible, Sure the dongle is only usb-a but personally i don''t have a problem with that as i only use bluetooth. So far has been a killer product

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking of getting it instead of the M3, nice to hear that I wouldn't have been disappointed with it

    • @kevboost
      @kevboost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a FPS gamer, i can assure you that the razer orochi V2 on bluetooth is not perfect. If you compared it by plugging in the dongle it is night and day difference in precision and smoothness.

  • @IsThatDrak
    @IsThatDrak หลายเดือนก่อน

    i surprised on your thought on the mx 3s honest i got one thinking. not sure if this is worth the money and it was a game changer, its my altime fav mouse, dont think i could go back. i mostly love the shape and the scroll wheel is awesome.

  • @renoleon8298
    @renoleon8298 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Razer Pro Click Mini is so underated. Perfect for macbook and Windows switching and even gaming with dongle.

  • @PaulRadaker
    @PaulRadaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Logitech sells a USB dongle for the MX Master mouse that has a much better polling rate. I use a MX Master 3 with the dongle every day and it’s amazing.
    Only problem is it’s USB-A, so that might not work for your criteria.

  • @warpigroadkill
    @warpigroadkill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've just gone from the Apple mouse to the MX 3 Master for Mac (for mac means you get a usb-c to usb-c cable). Works perfectly without any dongles. Game changer with the customisable buttons and scroll wheels for x and y axis.

  • @chop8557
    @chop8557 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    found my perfect mouse setup for mac. magic touchpad on the left, keyboard in the middle and logitech vertical on the right for more precise movements. sometimes ill put the magic touchpad in the middle underneath my keyboard like the laptops.

  • @zpieter4221
    @zpieter4221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me my old Microsoft Arc Mouse works great! It is really portable because you can literally fold it, and has similar functions as the trackpad, by swiping left to right on the mouse's 'screen'. its completely wireless, has an insane amount of battery. Only downside is that it is a bit uncomfortable for longer sessions.

  • @JulianoFagundes
    @JulianoFagundes 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so happy with my Logi M590. This thing can connect 2 devices via BT and easily switch between then using a button on top of the mouse.

  • @milosjevic
    @milosjevic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @bogxd do you have any plans to shoot a video addressing the issue I'm currently experiencing? I've bought the new AirPods Pro 2 (USB-C), and when I connect them to my MacBook M1, I have a lag issue with my Apple Magic Keyboard. When I disconnect them, I don't have this problem. I don't know how to solve this irritating issue. If you can help me, I believe a video addressing this would be very helpful, like this one.

  • @keyboardologist
    @keyboardologist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Very similar experience I tried all the mice except MX because I'm a lefty, imo it's 1. Magic Mouse 2. Razer Viper.

  • @typescriptuser
    @typescriptuser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mainly use Logitech MX Anywhere 3. It works great with their Logitech Options utility app, including smooth scroll (it’s not perfect but I like it), mission control gestures.
    Have you tried it with your MX Master 3S?

    • @bogxd
      @bogxd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah that's nice, I'm glad you're not hating it like me xd. Yeah, I tried it with both logi options and options + and a bunch of other apps but the Bluetooth lag wouldn't go away.

  • @rivershy
    @rivershy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've had MX Anywhere 3S for 2 years now with my macbook and have had no issues with it. Super portable, comfortable, no lag. It's just good.

  • @maettis_
    @maettis_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About the Logi MX mouse: I had the same issues with the teleporting. Just install the Logi Options+ Software of Logi and it will install the right drivers automatically. Now it is the best mouse ever. The mx mouse is simply practical for macbooks. I have the feeling that I don't have to make any compromises when it comes to the functions. For example, the button at the bottom for the thumb is great when it comes to switching desktops. The second scroll wheel is super useful when you are on the web and need to scroll horizontally. The Logitech software is just great. I have entire automations to set up my workspace.

  • @Eventwow
    @Eventwow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After razer dropped Mac support I went with the Logi so far it’s been great. With the charging port in the front I can use while it’s charging as if it was a wired mouse.

  • @mykolakozlo
    @mykolakozlo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man! Just got one. Thank you for your suggestion 👍

  • @yordanmilchev8706
    @yordanmilchev8706 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you try Mac Mouse Fix on the Logitech

  • @Kharzod
    @Kharzod 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My mouse has a 60 hz polling rate and it is smooth on my MacBook with pro motion!
    Do this:
    In Mac settings decrease the mouse speed to 1 or 2.
    In the mouse software increase the dpi or use the decent button for the dpi on the mouse.
    Much less lagging with bluetooth connection!

  • @Masterfighterx
    @Masterfighterx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As the like button was mentioned, it actually lit up with RGB, that's pretty cool!

  • @aldo6532
    @aldo6532 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite mouse for my Windows laptop comes with the Surface Bluetooth Desktop set. Enjoy the keyboard but the mouse feels so accurate to me and I’ve tried the best of the best and not enjoyed their feel.

  • @TrollerSK
    @TrollerSK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use Logitech MX Master 3S with the dongle that sticks 3 hamburgers per square toenail and it does not lag, i can even game on it. However, on my windows laptop it always defaulted to 125 Hz polling rate, and on my mac, because Apple, it often got stuck at 90, feeling slow and laggy comapred to the trackpad. However since Sonoma it is always 125Hz and it is actually nice to use, so you might check it out again and use try the dongle :)

  • @MarcelWltr
    @MarcelWltr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video! Now i'm waiting for you to search for the best Mac keyboard