THE RINGS OF POWER SEASON 2 EPISODE 6 REACTION! 2x6 Review and Breakdown | LOTR
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That vial of "mithril" Annatar gave Celebrimbor occurs during his illusion. We saw him cut his hand with that dagger earlier. I think Sauron gave him something containing some of his essence for the forging of the 9! Sauron just disguised it as mithril. Incredible!
Yeah, I don't think he got any Mithril on his visit to the Dwarves. He's just guaranteeing these 9 rights are evil, evil when the time comes to forge them.
34:41 it's probably a vial of sauron's blood (we see him cut his hand a moment before) but since we are in that "dream" sequence celebrimbor thinks it's mithril. That also could explain why the 9 were so powerful on the minds of their wearers if sauron's own blood was in them
I think he cuts himself for some kind of blood magic, the mithril powder i guess they will end up explaining it in the next episode.
@@bolchinsky then why didn't he cut himself in season 1 when he gave galadriel visions in valinor. The blood is to be used in the creation of the 9.
@@joeyrobertson9523Yea you are true, but there is intention in his cut and in the next scene with the same hand he grabs Celebrimbor who looks at the arm like feeling something. I don't think thats casual. But its pretty inconsistent then. Yea.
Sauron just flirting with everybody.
@@mcdudely not flirting mate he is manipulating them
@@abinsreenivas1583 This is how dark lords flirt
@@quirkyjoeAnimated ok shity grandpa
Let's go back to the first star wars trilogy and get the emperor's BDE with Leia - and Luke at the same time - that's what we're talking about. Now THATs an adventure, gives a new meaning to "the force"...
Reducing Sauron's power to a kind of sexy time is the most obvious and worst decision the writers could have made. Boring for casuals, moronic for readers.
Annatar is becoming the TV character of the year. Really well done.
He executed very well!!!
Charlie Vickers amazing actor⭐️
One thing I love about seeing Celebrimbor being manipulated by Annatar's talk of Feanor is that Feanor isn't just the "greatest elven smith of all time" (leading Celebrimbor to want to be better on a professional level) but Feanor is Celebrimbor's _grandfather._ And Feanor was (at best) deeply problematic, if not an outright villain. And of Feanor's seven sons, Celebrimbor's own father was one of the worst. I think they're doing a great job of showing how blindly driven Celebrimbor is in light of this - not only to be the better crafts-elf, but to be a better _person_ than his father and grandfather ... and, in so doing, try to redeem the dire mistakes of his family line which led to so much death and suffering.
Oh, the siege of Eregion is in the books. Poor Celebrimbor... I fear his end is near.
@@The.Crawling.Chaos. thankfully we still have him in shadow of mordor and shadow of war.
It’s gonna be a “banner” siege for Celebrimbor!
@@GameknightJ14 I'm wondering if they are going to put him where Feanor's statue was - he always wanted to be honoured in the same way as Feanor. And we see the statue ripped down quite purposefully.
@@quirkyjoeAnimated Oh, that’s a really good idea!
@@GameknightJ14 oooooooof that hurt to read as a book nerd 😂
The Uruk-has are the 'big gnarly looking ones' that Saruman creates (3000 years or so after this) when Adar says 'Uruk' he just means 'orc' plain and simple.
The secret fire is not something Gandalf “uses”. The secret fire is basically the Power of Creation that is within Eru Illuvatar, the God of the Tolkien universe. So when Gandalf said in Fellowship “I’m a servant of the secret fire, wielder of the flame of Arnor”, he’s only letting the Balrog know, that he is in fact a Maiar like the Balrog himself.
@@Nicobi001 not to be nerdy or anything, but is it not the flame of Anor, which means sun in Elvish?
@@mathiashollbaum6312 true it’s Anor not Arnor* but it’s neven been clarified what the flame of Anor is. He could be talking about Narya, the Ring of Fire which he’s using but he’s probably alluding to the real Sun, as you say, which has its origin in Laurelin, one of the two trees in Valinor. If it’s the latter, he is again telling the Balrog, that he’s serving Illuvatar or the Valar at least. In combination with the “servant of the secret fire” it’s probably just that.
@@Nicobi001 ah okay thanks, very cool backstory. I have little knowledge of the books, but i recently pondered what the actual hell the flame of Arnor was. Because i myself did indeed think that was what he said haha!
I can’t get over how much this show rocks, especially this season. The crescendo we’ve been building toward is about to absolutely BUST
I think that was Sauron sensing the Balrog, not summoning it. We know it has been stirring since the end of last season. If anything, the Dwarves will awaken the Balrog due to digging too greedily and too deep due to the influence of Durin's ring of power.
@@tjbfox769 is a balrog a Maia?
@@TheMagicJIZZ Yep. Balrogs are among the most powerful of Maiar spirits. The very word means "Mighty Demon" (Bal + rog), and with exception of Sauron himself, they were Morgoth's most powerful lieutenants during the First Age, leading Orc hosts into battle, razing cities and forests alike to the soil. The Balrog in Khazad-dum is the only one known to have survived Morgoth's fall, hiding itself in the depths of the earth and seemingly going to sleep.
Whether or not Sauron could command a Balrog is something of a debatable matter, given that they held positions of similar (though not identical) authority under Morgoth. Imagine if at the end of the Lord of the Rings Sauron was defeated but both Saruman and one of the Ringwraiths survived. It is unlikely that the Wraith would have any loyalty or deference for Saruman, but that does not mean that the White Wizard couldn't factor the Wraith's actions into his plan and play it like everyone else. At least that is how I've always interpreted Sauron's relationship with the Balrog. He does not command it, but that does not mean he cannot make use of it.
"Doordash army" made me cackle lmao great reaction!
Calling it now, the Stranger/Gandalf’s REAL task is to choose his friends over his destiny
Yes for sure. Then hopefully he can turn Nori into a staff and Poppy into a pointy hat.
Elendil, celebrimbor, "Annitar" and Durin killing it this week with the acting... just wonderful
They are filling every second of these episodes and i love it
He called himself Uruk in season 1 too. Uruk is simply Orc. Uruk-hai are what Saruman creates.
Great reaction as always! Just gonna be one of those guys for a minute to clarify a couple things from 38:40:
1 - According to Tale of Years in the LOTR Appendices it took 90 years from when they began to forge the Rings of power to the completion of the Three Rings (SA 1500 - 1590). Before that, it took 300 years of tutelage under Sauron before they could have even attained their skill level.
The entries:
-1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenóreans begin to make permanent havens.
- c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
- c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
- c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
- 1693 War of the Elves and Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden.
2 - And from Silmarillion we understand that it was only after Sauron's "help" did they advance so much, so it's not like there were no hiccups or that they made the rings with no trials:
"Therefore they hearkened to Sauron, and they learned of him many things, for his knowledge was great. In those days the smiths of Ost-in-Edhil surpassed all that they had contrived before; and they took thought, and they made Rings of Power."
3 - Lastly, there indeed was the siege of Eregion throughout the books.
For quick sourcing, here are the Tale of Year entries:
1695 Sauron’s forces invade Eriador. Gil-galad sends Elrond to Eregion
1697 Eregion... (Spoilers in source.)
This makes the siege on Eregion a two-year campaign (though the War of Sauron and the Elves began two years prior)!
Outside the appendices, there is much further and deeper lore on the siege of Eregion in The Silmarillion under "Of The Rings of Power and the Third Age" and a bit more in Unfinished Tales under "History of Galadriel and Celeborn)
The siege of Eragion is very much in the books. It's part of the broader War of Sauron and the Elves. But, events happen in a different order.
Book-wise, Sauron infiltrates and works on and refines the rings for 300 years. In the end they forge 16 rings for elves, which he secretly corrupts. Sauron then leaves and goes to Mount Doom to forge the Ruling Ring in secret. While he's gone, Celebrimbor uses what he's learned from "Annatar" forges and three more rings without him present. When Sauron tries to mind control the Ringbearers with the Ruling Ring, the bearers of the three uncorrupted rings sense what he's doing. They take off their rings and stop anyone from using the 16 either.
Sauron's army attacks Eragion and he reclaims the 16, but not the separately hidden three. More fighting ensues and important book stuff happens.
All bridges with the elves burnt, Sauron turns to the other races. He gives seven of the 16 to the dwarves (one to each clan) and distributes the remaining nine to assorted mannish servants. The show is moving everything around, so a lot of stuff is original as a result, but the broad strokes are all their.
Adar is likely one of those early elves twisted by Sauron
24:13 they filmed it on location! Only the closeups in the water are VFX.
I believe the hands of the artist who is drawing the rings were John Howe's. He and Alann Lee are the two most renown Tolkien artists of our time. They do the official book covers and the illustrations for new publications (together with Ted Nasmith) and they were the chief conceptual designers for the movies. John Howe is working for Rings of Power, too. I have seen him drawing rings in a making off video.
That shot if the illusion disappearing is so good. I saw some bts stuff on Twitter, and they filmed it in ONE CONTINUOUS SHOT. Genuinely so cool how they did it and it works wonderfully.
Also, there’s a part near the end where you can hear the orchestra tuning as it pans to sauron, who is “orchestrating” the battle. Actually so awesome.
Disa might be my favorite character after this episode! Love her and Durin.
Disa and Durin sealed that slot in s1 for me.
36:25 and it's all practical, you can see how they did it in the behind the scenes
Uruk is just Orc in Black Speech. Nothing to it more than just wanting the basic respect of them being called by their given name. Orc is considered an Elvish Slur.
It's very entertaining to see Sauron deceive everybody
Gandalf doesn't use the Secret Fire, the Secret Fire is Eru himself and the power of creation, gandalf is a mere servant of it
Just want to say I absolutely love your attitude. Considering the dregs of geekdom this show has attracted, you guys are a lovely ray of sunshine. Keeping rocking it.
Okay. It’s Gandalf now. Confirmed.
“No other Wizard goes in for Hobbit-Lore.”
*THAT. LINE.”
I’m 100% @ this point…
Sauron/Annatar is sooo manipulative this ep. love it and hate it haha. The hammer @ 2:29 wasn’t there/visible when Celebrimbor gestured but as soon as Sauron said “oh that hammer” it appeared again 😞 btw
The Siege of Eregion is absolutely in the lore. The main change is the compression of time, because the events occur over many years, not the month or so of the show.
Sauron = Master Gaslighter
34:41 it’s part of the whole illusion, it’s not Mithril, it’s his blood from when he cuts his hand.
I'm glad i wasn't thr only one calling out the snake, i was like "that snake literally got a front row seat to the action" lol😂
No reaction to Tom Bombadil telling 'Gandalf' something that he later told Frodo?! 😮 "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life..."
It is not mithril, it is his blood.
I loved loved loved your reaction 💕 Engaging and empathetic, love you guys !
Dude I want a behind the scenes of how they did the underwater shots with her hair cause that was STUNNING!
"Celebrimbor? More like Celebrimbitch." 😂 Another great reaction from you guys. 😁
38:31 the siege of eregion is in the books, the difference is that it's sauron directly who has the army and attacks the city while in the show it's adar (but because of the manipulations of sauron so it's kinda the same)
it's kinda the same. But also, kinda more awesome. Interested to see where it goes and how Sauron eventually commands the orcs - either before or after he forges the One Ring.
Yep, this war is in the books, and it is literally known as "The War of Sauron vs the Elves." He was PISSED about having the Three taken and hidden. (And this is what I have been WAITING for since Ep 1 Season 1!)
And I just love seeing you three going from cheering on the badassery of the show to gushing about how sweet Durin/Disa and Poppy/Nobody are. Like nobody digs honest-to-gods romance like you guys do. :D
I'm so glad to see you guys on here tonight! You guys are amongst the "happy watchers" videos that I love to watch after the episodes! 😊
And all is just so positive, enjoying it for what it is, & it's great what they've done, the scenery & effects, & the acting especially! 👏🏼
Good vibes & all shared. Thank you very much for doing so! Have a great weekend everyone!
I’m totally here for sassy reacts, keep dragging the neckbeards 🤣❤️
As a Tolkien nerd, I LOVE when yall make fun of Tolkien nerds 😂😂
I think this season has been so good. I love how sauron tricks people into thinking his ideas come from them. Celebrimbor is now saying that the ring for mens are all that matters, it happened to subtly and quietly.
That's what a deceiver does.
Not gonna lie, whenever I saw Sauron this episode I was screaming "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you!"- what he's doing to Celebrimbor (and how he's playing Mirdania) is just too much to handle.
Also, did you notice how, when Adar brings out Morgoth´s crown, how Galadriel tries to move as much as possible away from it? I thought that was a nice detail.
The conflict of Durin seeing his father so dependent on the ring reminds of family members watching a love one succumb to addition.
Not sure how we´ll all go through the devastating drama of the last two episodes....
YESS ive been waiting all day for this
Haha me too!
Sauron was muy sneaky sneaky...
Thanks for the fun reaction, guys!!
Gandalf does not use the secret fire, he is a servant of the secret fire, which means he is a servant of Eru IIlv'atar, who is the singular "God" of the Vallar. There is still a chance that this is one of the blue wizards, but it is getting slimmer.
"I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor" -Gandalf ...also, "Careful with that snake Poppy!" -Agustin ...but WHICH snake, Agustin??? 😮
There was a war after the forging of the rings, this one they are about to show. It's done differently as Sauron leads the army, but the Siege of Eregion was a genuine siege/battle in the lore.
Elendil's daughter is giving me Sansa Stark [S1 - GoT] vibes. also, my feeling is that Míriel's blindness may have worked for her. what you can't see, you don't [necessarily] fear. cause if i saw that monster i'd thrash around in that water; her not seeing, may equate to bravery by the sea monster. random ramblings, iChuckle.
The dwarves in this show are Phenomenal; not good, not great, phenomenal.
Sauron doesn't command the Balrog, to my understanding. It would be an Adam Smasher situation if Sauron tried to give Durin's Bane an order. "Who the fuck are you?" Balrogs serve only Morgoth and no other. In his absence they assume alpha status.
38:20 actually the siege of Eregion is from the books, the exact details are not but basically yes Sauron does attack Eregion order to claim the rings. It’s a bit different in the show
I believe Uruk is orcs refer to themselves as. Uruk-hai were the Saruman orcs from the original trilogy
Holy shit yo. Hector had me crackin up with that Air Bud line.
The siege and battle or sacking in Eregion did happen in books as Sauron army did invade. Love guys you’re such a jot to watch.
Hi guys. I've been MIA, but I had to come on and watch your reactions to Rings.
As always, you guys have me thoroughly enjoying your take on the show. Thank you, and happy reacting. Only 2 more eps.
Getting real Ned Stark vibes from that scene with Elendil...except that Elendil (of necessity) survives his humiliating trial. As to the orcs attacking Eregion...it DOES happen in the lore, it just doesn't happen until the Third Age. The Rings of Power is so far taking 95-99% of their material from the actual lore, but they are just significantly compressing the time span during which these events happen. I don't mind too much, Peter Jackson did the same. As long as they don't just make shit up, and stay fairly true to *what* happened, I don't mind them squishing the timeline to show the interconnections and consequences.
I wonder if Potential Spoilers
The Celebanner will make an appearance in the next couple of episodes. If you don't know what that is, Google at your own risk.
Sorry to correct you Augustin, but the Siege of Eregion is from the books!
Edit: "Headbutt pushes his glasses up the bridge of his nose" and says: "Um...actually..: ( I love y'all but it must be done.)
Augustin said Uruk means a Orc human hybrid but I think that is a corruption of the meaning in the PJ movies.
Uruk is just Orc in the the black speech of Mordor. That is why Adar keeps being touchy about it. He wants his "children" to have an identity of their own basically. Uruk and Uruk-hai are just different forms of the same word, an Uruk would be like an almost academic designation but Uruk-hai mean orc-folk or orc-people. Example maybe something like we saw a band of Uruk vs. those are the Uruk-hai. Chexican vs. Chexicans I guess.
Galadriel keeps defaulting to Orc because that is either the Noldorin or Sindarin way to say orc. Like Urko and Orko is teh elven for it, iirc. She won't use the black speech for the same reason folks freak out when anyone does it in the books or even in the movie I think Gandlaf does it at Rivendell. To speak it is like a desecration of the air that even creates the words.I am certain I read that on a website at some point on some adhd fueled hyper-fixation spree.
That is also why it is significant that Galadriel decides to speak it. Even if she is just doing it to as a ploy or if they mean to signify her genuinely coming over to Adar's side a bit; her doing it is a desecration and shows some capitulation on her part.
Way to pull out the Airbud reference Hector lol
A Sauron version of, This is Fine! Everything is fine here 😆
5:29 he refers to him and his kind as Uruks in the first season as well, and they are not the same as the Uruk-hai created by Saruman. Not quite clear how the show is defining it or is f it's the same as the books but I think the Uruk were the original orcs or something of the sort , and Saruman's Uruk-hai are a different breed.
Uruk is like a premium orc. It's not related to Saruman's Uruk.
Everyone's taste is different.
That's why Adar provided not just meat on the menu, but berries too!
If Disa and Durin don't escape the BalRaq
We riot
I'm there with my ax and hammer 🛠
I like the show, with all its so-called lore "flaws", I personally would never have attempted to do this not owning all the rights, but in the end, it's enjoyable to watch.
I bloody love this show- i dont know what those other plebs are chatting about. 🙃
Guys the siege of eregion is in the books except it's Sauron who is in charge of the army and the rings are already made.
Pretty sure Uruk's are Elf and Orc hybrids not human and orc hybrids.
I get why the book fans are upset but they need to just calm down cause they change things with every adaptation I mean just look at the the games Shadow Of Mordor and Shadow Of War they went further away from the lore than this show ever did so far especially in the second game I mean The Bright Lord come on
Agreed 100% 👍 😊
You Hombres had me 😂🤣😂 making fun of LOTR fanatics, Elendil's Daughter & Sauron's DoorDash Army of Orcs + Agustin doin' his Best Red Hulk impression 👍🏾👌🏾🫡
Sorry to play devil's advocate for Eärien but I feel I must defend her for just a second 😂 From her perspective, her dad is falling further in with a Conservative religious sect instead of dealing with the grief of losing his son (and probably also his wife, and the estrangement of his other son). We as the audience have the benefit of knowing a lot that Eärien doesn't. I don't agree with a lot of her choices, but I do feel a need to stand up for her a bit. But we'll see where her story goes, I may change my mind!
Yeah from her point of view her dad has joined an outlawed cult and sided with the elf-lover who got her brother killed in a faraway place. She feels abandoned in her grief.
@@quirkyjoeAnimated Exactly! I can't help but empathise with her, even if I don't agree with her actions. I found her frustrating at the beginning of this season but this episode really spun it around on me. I just feel so bad for her now
Hector: Ninya.....Ninya business GIMMIE DAT RING!!! lol
😅 this is the second age
This show takes place in the 2nd age
I love prince dorin and disa.😊😅
the corruption of the ring on durins father reminds me of when I had to watch my own grandmother getting devoured by Alzheimers. This smart woman that had worked all her life as a scientist, doing studies on aids and ebola slowly turned into a mind of a 5 year old again. I watched my mother cry in despair just as Durin becouse there was just nothing she could do to save or bring her mother back.
Finally ❤
I love yall so much.
I love this show😁
Guy on the right is always just slightly off with his tolkien lore. Not that its bad. It’s just not entirely correct. “Uruk” and “uruk-hai” are different. Gandalf doesnt “use” the secret fire but is rather powered by it
When it’s Sauron and celebrimor best part very lord of rings everything else booo the Gandalf and hobbit story line is dragging to much
Woow❤😈
Those aren't crocodile tears from Eärien. She is genuinely devastated that her father has put his faith in an illegal archaic cult just so he can be loyal to the elf-loving-queen he fancies who was responsible for leading her naive brother to battle and death in a faraway land. She doesn't understand why Elendil would betray his family and the people of the island in this way. She had already lost her mother and is estranged from her older brother. Apparently a scene was cut between her and Valandil in which she sought for them to mourn Isildur, but she was rebuffed. She has no one to mourn with and this is how her grief is being channeled. I don't have complete sympathy for her but I don't think she's insincere.
The money went into visuals and music. The showrunners ran out of money when it came to writing, story, dialog, and direction.
Uruk-Hai , you see in Lord of the Rings, but this one is a Uruƙ, only half!!!! The Word Hai means in Mordor, "Globin Men", that is why, Gandalf says to Lord Elrond, that Saruman is crossing Orcs with Goblins!
@5:00 - this fluting of gentle whispers conveying nothing more than what we already know and some kind of cat and mouse play with no stakes. Eregion is populated by 14 elves led by a befuddled fancy uncle who is supposed to be a generation younger than galadriel. So why do we care?
Lol 23:07 😂😂😂