Fun fact: The rear cup holder being “jammed” is intentional. You press it in once for a pen holder, and a second time for the cup holders. Kinda strange but that’s what it is.
@@njguy2 use a pocket and put the cup holder in the inside, exposed, of the armrest like every other car and forget the stupidity of the mechanics and forget making it more expensive just for the car to "feel" more expensive.
I have never seen a review that said: "I like the capacitive touch buttons over regular buttons" so at this point I don't know why manufacturers still think those are nice and a good idea.
Im remember a vw tiguan like 14 years ago. I already asked myself back theb when theyll have a infotainment system that actually responds in realtime. :D
“So much capacity” really confused me because 80-100kw doesn’t sound like a lot, so 170 looked insane. I would say 107kw is like a 4800 mah battery. Pretty normal.
I had the chance to test the EQS. I agree with a lot of what you said. One thing I did like about the car is that with inteligent recuperation, I basically didn't need to brake. The driving assistance feels helpful more often than it feels annoying. Which was a first for me.
The thing I really like about these car "reviews", ignoring Alex, because he is a delight every time we get to see him. Is that you bring on different, connoisseurs if you will to discuss certain features. Loved seeing Dennis in this one.
The cup holder in the back wasn't jammed, it was designed that way. The first click is a pen holder then you give it a half click to get the cup holders. Not sure why its like that but it is what it is. Having the lumbar controls in the screen allows you to adjust the lumbar to a more specific spot to help pinpoint specific spots. The MBUX infotainment is very intuitive and easy to use. Yes there are a lot of sub menus but its easy to figure out.
12:54 i think you guys colored either the graph or the legend of the EQS and S90 in the opposite colors, because it shows the EQS in purple having very good sub bass and the S90 with less bass below 40hz
Some shots showing the car testing and readouts together might be interesting, or help ensure accuracy during continuity checks of the script and what's shown.
@@jinkim89 Yea agreed, I did pause but unless you are a real audio nerd it's all a little meaningless. Alex is talking about the audio in the background, which I missed as I was pausing and then playing and reading, so lost what he was saying. If his scipt was laid out to use the labs data as a reference it would be better - so "Overall I enjoyed the audio in the car, it feels like it lacks a little bass response in more bass heavy tracks and this is backed up by the data from LTT Labs you can see here *insert graph* - a more in depth explanation can be found at the LTT Labs link in the description" Just dumping these data sets in requiring a pause is complete changing how their viewers are having to interact with the video (IMO in a worse way) which I think they still need to work on. Even the editors notes in this video were so quick I had to skip back multiple times - they are funny and I like reading them (especially the bit about hitting a person on the road and being "dumb that you can't do it") but dang do they go quick.
The screen makes me wonder, how will the Apple CarPlay update work with this car? Also, I love how Dennis was the one to judge the message function given his Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade.
@@AshokkumarJakkula i might actually get the update with need to plugin the iPhone, I think Mercedes’ uses nvidia chips for the infotainment or something like that.
@@carholic-sz3qv I’ve never seen a German car manufacturer updating software when they do major OS updates. And opening up an api to read safety critical information and allowing it to also overwrite your dashboard with their own design is quite the major change if we go by the standards of German manufacturers.
13:36 If you reduce front grill design, It'll look like tata tiago. I actually like this design it's botton grill is similar to AMG One. It feels like a grill is there but hey didn't add fake grill which increases drag. It seems to be good balance btw reducing drag and keeping aesthetic.
I think I know why the capacitive touchbuttons move. Feels like they tried to struck a middle ground between buttons and touch. So you know when you pressed it. Of course it seems to fall flat by the point that you still have to actually look where you press...
Love this test! And I love to see that you show the frequency graphs for the audio systems. This was the first time I saw this. Here in Germany the EQS is at the moment the best of all according to some car journalists. But they didn’t show the touch capacitive steering buttons or the cheaped out buttons or talk about the difference between base model and equipt model. And sometimes thy praise the software. But what you showed doesn’t look like even close to be the best. In my opinion this is overall a great car. But in certain spots it doesn’t live to it price batch.
It's actually quite funny how German car reviewers bash on cars from the US like the Mach E, and American channels complain about cars like the iX. But I totally agree with you. Magazines like "Auto Motor Sport" have always been quite biased, especially towards Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, Merc has made a really interesting car, but things like the buttons were not discussed (or only briefly), so it's kinda nice to see someone mention them. Especially the steering wheel buttons. Whos idea was that, that's so stupid.
"Journalists" don't exist anymore, these days it's just people on the payroll writing "reviews" padded with talking points and sales pitches. It's the same thing as fake Amazon reviews.
As soon as he talked about the adaptive breaking, I knew this isnt it. One thing almost everyone will hate is if your brake pedals isnt consistently smooth. Makes you feel so much less in control of the vehicle and much less safe.
I Have the adaptive regen braking enabled on my Hyundai EV and honestly once you're used to it it's fine. You learn to predict how it is going to respond depending upon what's in front of you and can respond appropriately. If the Mercedes version is anything like this, I would be more than happy to live with it.
@@Koda14 I'm not just trashing adaptive braking all together, I'm mostly talking about how alex is saying how he feels about it. I've test driven the Hyundai's with adaptive breaking and its feels a little odd at first but nothing alarming.
In Germany they were the first to implement level 3 automated driving with this one and the s class. You definitely should take a trip down here and try it. It’s freaking amazing.
@@s.i.m.c.a Mercedes are the ONLY manufacturer to develop thier security FULLY in house... And thier operating system is also made fully by themselves, with the hardware being made by Nvidea.... They are just about the safest when it comes to hacking
@@Captain_Coleslaw Just a point, but proprietary does not mean secure. It means that it hasn't been tested by too many other groups, and very few will have validated it. Doesn't mean it's insecure either, but it's not a plus. Security through obscurity won't work for very long once the system becomes more common. There's a reason why open-source stuff is considered to be more secure for most use cases, since it gives so many people a chance to break it that you either find the flaws, or have it proven how secure it is. Hence why most encryption standards are open-source.
@@Captain_Coleslaw my rule of thumb is generally : if it ain't open source and it hasn't yet been stress tested by actual hackers, then you have no reason to trust it
Holy moly, those lab notes are AMAZING!! But guys, I don't think it makes sense to just plonk those into the video unexplained. Completely explaining them is maybe overkill for shortcircuit, but maybe highly technical extended videos will become a thing?? :)
I have now owned my EQS 580 for about 13 months, and I like it much better than my 2017 S550. It is smoother, quieter and more responsive than old S class, and its interior is every bit or more cosetting. The sound system is top notch. It is by no means a sport vehicle, but it is the perfect vehicle for long, comfortable drives on surface roads and major highways. The somewhat unusual brake pedal movement is not in fact a problem because it very quickly becomes second nature. The adaptive crise is excellent and the anticipatory nature of "intelligent recuperation" takes the stress out of city driving. On the "strong recuperation" setting with the "creep mode" disengaged, the car is a very competent "one pedal" machine. The Intelligent recuperation mode is much more sophisticated and efficient, however. Combined real world range is about 325-360 miles in the summer and 260-280 miles in a Northeast US winter with the heat on. My average range over about 20,000 miles has been 281 miles. Of course, highway driving is less efficient that city driving because of wind resistance. The range is excellent for long trips even through charger deserts like the 250 mile stretch through in central Pennsylvania USA The haptic controls are very easy to use, and their combination with a relatively sophisticated voice recognition system make operating the vehicle a breeze. There is no need for knobs and buttons. Because of supply chain problems in mid 2022, I was unable to get some options like auto-close doors and the fragrance system. I am looking forward to adding those features and whatever else has been developed on the next EQS version (perhaps the facelift). I drove the EQS with the Tesla Model S prior to my purchase, and by comparison with the EQS, driving the Tesla is like riding around in a sardine can. We almost never take people for long rides in the back seat, but our friends have found sitting in the back quite an opulent experience. The huge space under the lift back gives the car substantially more utility than our top of the marque, mid-sized SUV Of course, the absence of ICE stench and noise combined with the speed convenience of at home charging, qualities shared with other EVs, is an unmitigated blessing.
Capacitive touch buttons are the best idea for driver safety, you know, when you have to take your eyes off the road and actually look at every button you want to press. Much better than the old days when you could just use the tactile feeling of the buttons to find them with your fingers, while keeping your eyes on the road, it's a wonder drivers that had to suffer through old style buttons aren't all dead by now.....
alex and the editors really channeling theyre inner jeremy clarkeson this video, with that boot review referencing a mob boss hiding bodies and the driving montage. getting real top gear vibes
Here's one thing I'm not entirely clued up about that bugs me.... They claim that EV cars look slightly weird because they need to have less drag coefficient and aerodynamics... But why aren't they making ICE cars as aero efficient as possible? We could of been having ICE cars that looked like these that would be getting better mileage for years now right?
@@theproffessional9 I would expect it to be a whole money scheme where many suited individuals hold many flavoured pies, but there are some cars like the honda insight? I think it's that one with some modification people claim to be getting 90+mpg
@@cagatayy1182 oh yeah that would affect it quite a bit, but there is definitely some clever ways to cool such as BMWs active grilles that open and close as required for a workaround
Most high mileage sedans look kind of like this already. For ice engines luxury cars could be hideously inefficient because Rick people didn’t care about mileage, but Rick people do care about range on EVs
At least it doesn't suffer from porpoising.😏 Also, the "can you fit a body on inside the trunk" part. Very Top Gear-ish (the Clarkson, May, and Hammond version), very nice.
Great review and amazing editing! You guys have come a long way since the first car reviews and its really showing, can't wait to see where you'll be in the next few months!
I feel the editor had a fair amount of fun with this one, also yes Alex we need context at 1:50! (I'm sure Alex isn't a sociopathy/psychopath however, so likely the latter)
It doesn't matter how big the battery is when it comes to charge time, you can always increase the charge current as long as you have sufficient cooling. A 50kwh battery and a 100kwh battery will charge in the same time under a 1C load.
The Labs analysis is cool, but I have to pause the video for a couple of minutes every second to actually take it all in and then rewatch it to actually hear what Alex had to say. The format needs work, guys.
In the "lab notes" on the frequency response, it looks like the Volvo vs Mercedes labels are swapped. Also, it's a bit confusing why the dip around 20-40Hz is missing in the chart at 12:57.
My E-Class has the hood latch hidden too, I always just thought it was for aesthetics. By the way, It says EQS-580 on the back, and if that car is similar in spec to their 50+ deciliter displacement AMG E-Class sedans, that price is less extreme than it seems. An E63 AMG is over $100,000, but the EQS-580 probably has a little less horsepower.
The title of the video perfectly describes the problem with this video, Alex actually didn't understand the targetgroup of the EQS. The owners are the same as for the classic S-Class, rich (older) people and CEOs who want to drive or be driven absolutly hassle free and with the most comfort possible. It's a luxury cruiser, not a Tesla Model S "sportssaloon" rival. The EQS is an absolute master piece in most of the stuff the target audience wants, and that has been the case for the S-Class as well for many, many years. Alex describes it as "not the best" driving experience, but it's just not made to be engaging and fun, instead it's made to just flow. I think he mostly just stepped a little bit too much out of his typical zone and tried to propose his expectations on what a car should be on this, instead of seeing it as what it is supposed to be. I definetly get some/most of the other critical points (especially the capacitive touch), i'm not here to overly praise the car, it has its flaws, even some big ones! I just felt like Alex missed some points because of his personal point of view.
I love cars, and I love PCs. LMG is perfect for me. And I especially love that you guys aren't afraid to be really critical of the cars you review. A lot of the traditional car magazines tend to be nice to the carmakers and not mark the cars down in areas where they are bad, probably for fear that they won't get sent future models for review. I know Linus doesn't give a rat's ass about that so hooray for us, consumers!
Love the sound quality graphs, and using the volvo as a baseline / relative target helps. As a sound luddite, this kind of comparison tool helps immensely in determining 'better vs worse', at least for me. Keep on adding objective metrics like these to your vids please! :)
I used to work for the company that makes the body panels for this car (they the only supplier of these parts) and let me tell you, they are not made with the same “quality and craftsmanship” as the interior. Also, I thought the hood not being accessible to the end user was stupid when I heard it 2.5 years ago. And when I first saw the hood design I said, “Yeah, we’re gonna have problems stamping that”.
Regarding the capacitive buttons everyone is saying in the comments and you mentioned in video too that its cheaper BUT its a car that costs 150k .... in that price point I excpect quality EVERYWHERE. Sometimes looking at videos where expensive cars are reviewed im thinking to myself that my 35k Škoda is almost better in every daily driver attribute.
There's no need to press the logo to open the rear hatch. You can just kick your foot under the rear bumper where there is a motion sensor to do that. I bought an EQS 450+ at msrp for a lot less money than the 580. The car offers so many things that you will not find with Lucid or Tesla, like Apple CarPlay, SiriusXM radio, a sunroof that actually opens for fresh air and the 4 wheel steering. There is also a shade on the sunroof. Almost any feature can be accessed by saying Hey Mercedes, including changing the color of the ambient lighting. With two years of free charging at Electrify America, I have had almost no cost in driving 4000 miles. With Plug and Charge, adding juice is as easy as a Tesla. My only problem was a low tire pressure alert that the dealer fixed in five minutes. You can only fit three golf bags in the back which was a little disappointment.
good video, don’t know how to do it better, feedback to labs stuff, me, a pleb, has no idea what the graphs mean so short explanation or text under the graphs explaining like in ltt with idk proceccor speed and the “lower is better” or something similar is what I’d love to see
Great video! I loved the shots of the car, the angle when Denis got into the car, and I am so excited to see more audio testing from LABS hell yeah. I think the editors should add little coloured bars to indicate when the next "slide" of the labs results are going to appear next.
There are 2 errors in the video, probably because the LTT Labs bit is new: 12:50 Top-right, "Target Frequyency Response" 12:54 Top-right, Labels are swapped Also some nitpicks: 12:57 Top-right, very inconsistent labeling 13:03 Top-right, "Individual Harmonics" is a little hard to read, maybe add an outline to the text?
Honestly I don't know if this would be legal in Belgium. During our driving exam we have to be able to open the hood, and I think during the yearly inspection as well.
Man I love the split second that Alex could keep a straight face when Dennis said "I want to feel the balls"
Could?
@@chrisogrady28 I mean probably until his brain processed what he just heard
8/10 didn’t quite go deep enough
Dude. Wtf. Dennis is hitting on him?
🤣 hahaha
Yep…the capacitive buttons are ridiculous in a car at that price. The whole thing reminds me of a Blackberry Storm.
I blame Audi/VW Group for pushing them for years
Capacitive buttons are ridiculous in any car.
"Is that deep enough for you?"
"I don't feel the balls"
Oh lordy
A transcription from my bedroom
thats what she said
Lmao
"I want to feel a bit of pain"
Fun fact: The rear cup holder being “jammed” is intentional. You press it in once for a pen holder, and a second time for the cup holders. Kinda strange but that’s what it is.
why on earth would you need a pen holder?
@@Dubfiance to hold your pens obviously
@@Dubfiance I think it is a phone holder, not a pen holder.
@@njguy2 use a pocket and put the cup holder in the inside, exposed, of the armrest like every other car and forget the stupidity of the mechanics and forget making it more expensive just for the car to "feel" more expensive.
I have never seen a review that said: "I like the capacitive touch buttons over regular buttons" so at this point I don't know why manufacturers still think those are nice and a good idea.
CHEAP
Its cheap and it looks cool in the advertisements
I know right!! it's the worst of both a button and touch screen, easy to accidentally touch and no physical feedback other than vibration maybe.
Because its cheaper and easier you can define functions later by SW.
That doesn't make it right BTW.
They're always bad no matter what the price range is.
1:16 Expensive 2022 Mercedes still having lagging displays is truly unacceptable.
It looks a lot better irl. Not that laggy
Im remember a vw tiguan like 14 years ago. I already asked myself back theb when theyll have a infotainment system that actually responds in realtime. :D
2:38 for those confused, yeah it’s 107, not 170
“So much capacity” really confused me because 80-100kw doesn’t sound like a lot, so 170 looked insane. I would say 107kw is like a 4800 mah battery. Pretty normal.
Looks like they also got the Volvo and EQS lines switched at 12:55.
@@RealWorldReview Yeah, 170kWh with only 350mi range would be terrible.
I really like Alex's reviews. He talks about the things that matter when driving a car 👍
Haha yeah the real Short Circuit 🙄
Imagine a world where the reviewer only tries to track this thing! 6k lbs lol
Alex on cars is highly entertaining!
Heck yeah! Fully agree, also his videos when he builds something on the main LTT channel. Those are also super fun to watch
I had the chance to test the EQS. I agree with a lot of what you said. One thing I did like about the car is that with inteligent recuperation, I basically didn't need to brake. The driving assistance feels helpful more often than it feels annoying. Which was a first for me.
The thing I really like about these car "reviews", ignoring Alex, because he is a delight every time we get to see him. Is that you bring on different, connoisseurs if you will to discuss certain features.
Loved seeing Dennis in this one.
The cup holder in the back wasn't jammed, it was designed that way. The first click is a pen holder then you give it a half click to get the cup holders. Not sure why its like that but it is what it is. Having the lumbar controls in the screen allows you to adjust the lumbar to a more specific spot to help pinpoint specific spots. The MBUX infotainment is very intuitive and easy to use. Yes there are a lot of sub menus but its easy to figure out.
8:23 Is this yours? Whose remix is that? I love it!
I want to know too
I think it must be, Shazam doesn’t know it. But it is a pretty simple mashup of Bizet’s Habanera with Something Called Karma. Pretty cool tho
Took me some digging but I'm pretty sure it's Something Called Karma (c) on apmmusic
@@cabrge Thanks!
12:54 i think you guys colored either the graph or the legend of the EQS and S90 in the opposite colors, because it shows the EQS in purple having very good sub bass and the S90 with less bass below 40hz
Some shots showing the car testing and readouts together might be interesting, or help ensure accuracy during continuity checks of the script and what's shown.
@@jinkim89 Yea agreed, I did pause but unless you are a real audio nerd it's all a little meaningless. Alex is talking about the audio in the background, which I missed as I was pausing and then playing and reading, so lost what he was saying. If his scipt was laid out to use the labs data as a reference it would be better - so "Overall I enjoyed the audio in the car, it feels like it lacks a little bass response in more bass heavy tracks and this is backed up by the data from LTT Labs you can see here *insert graph* - a more in depth explanation can be found at the LTT Labs link in the description"
Just dumping these data sets in requiring a pause is complete changing how their viewers are having to interact with the video (IMO in a worse way) which I think they still need to work on. Even the editors notes in this video were so quick I had to skip back multiple times - they are funny and I like reading them (especially the bit about hitting a person on the road and being "dumb that you can't do it") but dang do they go quick.
@@dylanevans5644 This!
The screen makes me wonder, how will the Apple CarPlay update work with this car? Also, I love how Dennis was the one to judge the message function given his Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade.
New UI is reserved for new cars. It will continue to use a slightly facelifted version of current UI
i dont think this car will get the update. the apple keynote said late 2023 cars, so.....
@@AshokkumarJakkula i might actually get the update with need to plugin the iPhone, I think Mercedes’ uses nvidia chips for the infotainment or something like that.
@@carholic-sz3qv I’ve never seen a German car manufacturer updating software when they do major OS updates. And opening up an api to read safety critical information and allowing it to also overwrite your dashboard with their own design is quite the major change if we go by the standards of German manufacturers.
@@AshokkumarJakkula Are you sure they didn’t mean late 2013 or later?
5:31 OMG i almost died how perfect that was!
*I half expected a big BOOM! when he started to open that hood.*
"You can literally fry yourself to death if you open the hood"... "Hilarious, let's open the hood!"
The 170KWh showed would really be absolutely crazy capacity ^^
It’s 107kw he was wrong
He said 107 they showed 170 on the screen
170kw but only 2 miles per KW kinda low
13:36 If you reduce front grill design, It'll look like tata tiago.
I actually like this design it's botton grill is similar to AMG One. It feels like a grill is there but hey didn't add fake grill which increases drag. It seems to be good balance btw reducing drag and keeping aesthetic.
That Dennis massage tips part was ripe for some low hanging innuendos.
At that point it's no longer even innuendos lol
The Devil: I like nobody
The guy who decided capacitive touch controls on a steering wheel is a good idea*
The Devil: That's my boy
god damn we need more of dennis
He likes it so deep that he can feel a bit pain
The EQS is with the new S-Class one of the worlds first cars with a real autopilot. In Germany you can already try it out.
I think I know why the capacitive touchbuttons move. Feels like they tried to struck a middle ground between buttons and touch. So you know when you pressed it.
Of course it seems to fall flat by the point that you still have to actually look where you press...
we knew this was a bad idea when blackberry released the storm.
Since you have to look, you can tell when you've pressed it. But if it has to move to register, it protects against (some) accidental touch.
12:54 The S90 and EQS colors are inverted.
Love the Lab notes integration
Love this test! And I love to see that you show the frequency graphs for the audio systems. This was the first time I saw this.
Here in Germany the EQS is at the moment the best of all according to some car journalists. But they didn’t show the touch capacitive steering buttons or the cheaped out buttons or talk about the difference between base model and equipt model. And sometimes thy praise the software. But what you showed doesn’t look like even close to be the best.
In my opinion this is overall a great car. But in certain spots it doesn’t live to it price batch.
I believe it's the debut of featuring Labs content.
It's actually quite funny how German car reviewers bash on cars from the US like the Mach E, and American channels complain about cars like the iX.
But I totally agree with you. Magazines like "Auto Motor Sport" have always been quite biased, especially towards Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, Merc has made a really interesting car, but things like the buttons were not discussed (or only briefly), so it's kinda nice to see someone mention them. Especially the steering wheel buttons. Whos idea was that, that's so stupid.
"Journalists" don't exist anymore, these days it's just people on the payroll writing "reviews" padded with talking points and sales pitches. It's the same thing as fake Amazon reviews.
I think he messed those graphs, they are reversed. There is a comment about that.
120k for a car in Germany. "best of all" lol.
As soon as he talked about the adaptive breaking, I knew this isnt it. One thing almost everyone will hate is if your brake pedals isnt consistently smooth. Makes you feel so much less in control of the vehicle and much less safe.
👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊🎉
I Have the adaptive regen braking enabled on my Hyundai EV and honestly once you're used to it it's fine. You learn to predict how it is going to respond depending upon what's in front of you and can respond appropriately. If the Mercedes version is anything like this, I would be more than happy to live with it.
@@Koda14 I'm not just trashing adaptive braking all together, I'm mostly talking about how alex is saying how he feels about it. I've test driven the Hyundai's with adaptive breaking and its feels a little odd at first but nothing alarming.
I love that your test drive took you through the posh neighborhood where people are riding horses along a trail next to the road.
In Germany they were the first to implement level 3 automated driving with this one and the s class. You definitely should take a trip down here and try it. It’s freaking amazing.
eeh...sorry, but i still like to be in control and not being hacked, while in automated mode, in a poorly secured Mercedes
@@s.i.m.c.a lol
@@s.i.m.c.a Mercedes are the ONLY manufacturer to develop thier security FULLY in house... And thier operating system is also made fully by themselves, with the hardware being made by Nvidea.... They are just about the safest when it comes to hacking
@@Captain_Coleslaw Just a point, but proprietary does not mean secure. It means that it hasn't been tested by too many other groups, and very few will have validated it. Doesn't mean it's insecure either, but it's not a plus. Security through obscurity won't work for very long once the system becomes more common.
There's a reason why open-source stuff is considered to be more secure for most use cases, since it gives so many people a chance to break it that you either find the flaws, or have it proven how secure it is. Hence why most encryption standards are open-source.
@@Captain_Coleslaw my rule of thumb is generally : if it ain't open source and it hasn't yet been stress tested by actual hackers, then you have no reason to trust it
Holy moly, those lab notes are AMAZING!! But guys, I don't think it makes sense to just plonk those into the video unexplained. Completely explaining them is maybe overkill for shortcircuit, but maybe highly technical extended videos will become a thing?? :)
I have now owned my EQS 580 for about 13 months, and I like it much better than my 2017 S550. It is smoother, quieter and more responsive than old S class, and its interior is every bit or more cosetting. The sound system is top notch.
It is by no means a sport vehicle, but it is the perfect vehicle for long, comfortable drives on surface roads and major highways. The somewhat unusual brake pedal movement is not in fact a problem because it very quickly becomes second nature. The adaptive crise is excellent and the anticipatory nature of "intelligent recuperation" takes the stress out of city driving. On the "strong recuperation" setting with the "creep mode" disengaged, the car is a very competent "one pedal" machine. The Intelligent recuperation mode is much more sophisticated and efficient, however. Combined real world range is about 325-360 miles in the summer and 260-280 miles in a Northeast US winter with the heat on. My average range over about 20,000 miles has been 281 miles. Of course, highway driving is less efficient that city driving because of wind resistance. The range is excellent for long trips even through charger deserts like the 250 mile stretch through in central Pennsylvania USA
The haptic controls are very easy to use, and their combination with a relatively sophisticated voice recognition system make operating the vehicle a breeze. There is no need for knobs and buttons.
Because of supply chain problems in mid 2022, I was unable to get some options like auto-close doors and the fragrance system. I am looking forward to adding those features and whatever else has been developed on the next EQS version (perhaps the facelift).
I drove the EQS with the Tesla Model S prior to my purchase, and by comparison with the EQS, driving the Tesla is like riding around in a sardine can. We almost never take people for long rides in the back seat, but our friends have found sitting in the back quite an opulent experience. The huge space under the lift back gives the car substantially more utility than our top of the marque, mid-sized SUV
Of course, the absence of ICE stench and noise combined with the speed convenience of at home charging, qualities shared with other EVs, is an unmitigated blessing.
Unless you're Linus....😂😂
Capacitive touch buttons are the best idea for driver safety, you know, when you have to take your eyes off the road and actually look at every button you want to press. Much better than the old days when you could just use the tactile feeling of the buttons to find them with your fingers, while keeping your eyes on the road, it's a wonder drivers that had to suffer through old style buttons aren't all dead by now.....
The reason they don’t want you to open the hood is because they scrimped on the paint job 🤣
alex and the editors really channeling theyre inner jeremy clarkeson this video, with that boot review referencing a mob boss hiding bodies and the driving montage. getting real top gear vibes
Having lived in Surrey and Langley for a while. It's so much fun to see bits of it in this video.
Here's one thing I'm not entirely clued up about that bugs me.... They claim that EV cars look slightly weird because they need to have less drag coefficient and aerodynamics... But why aren't they making ICE cars as aero efficient as possible? We could of been having ICE cars that looked like these that would be getting better mileage for years now right?
Because gas car drivers don't care about efficiency. *Ahem* 20% efficiency *Ahem*
@@theproffessional9 I would expect it to be a whole money scheme where many suited individuals hold many flavoured pies, but there are some cars like the honda insight? I think it's that one with some modification people claim to be getting 90+mpg
Most ICE cars have a grill at the front for engine cooling. That should be changing the air flow a lot
@@cagatayy1182 oh yeah that would affect it quite a bit, but there is definitely some clever ways to cool such as BMWs active grilles that open and close as required for a workaround
Most high mileage sedans look kind of like this already. For ice engines luxury cars could be hideously inefficient because Rick people didn’t care about mileage, but Rick people do care about range on EVs
At least it doesn't suffer from porpoising.😏
Also, the "can you fit a body on inside the trunk" part. Very Top Gear-ish (the Clarkson, May, and Hammond version), very nice.
Great review and amazing editing! You guys have come a long way since the first car reviews and its really showing, can't wait to see where you'll be in the next few months!
According to Doug DeMuro's review, the quirk with the rear seat cup holders is intentional. It's for quick access to a pen.
Yeah, one press: Pen holder, two presses: Cup holders
I feel the editor had a fair amount of fun with this one, also yes Alex we need context at 1:50! (I'm sure Alex isn't a sociopathy/psychopath however, so likely the latter)
would love to start seeing write ups of the LTT labs data with the accompanying video as it can be hard to appreciate the data in a video format
10:20 That's the most body roll I've ever seen aside from the Suzuki Samurai (which is known for rolling over)
Love the LABS stuff really great for audio folks like me. Quick side note at 12:50 there's a spelling error in the top right corner.
Glad to see you're constantly tweaking your target curves for car audio.
"Unless You're Linus Sebastian it is gonna be real big problem sitting back here" Made my day.
Alex is such a good host. I love this series
5:52 "Mobilizing" more like Mo-BALL-izing
"it's good if wanna have a nap while driving" I CAN'T
I love your energy
" I want to feel the balls" my oh my Lol, that had me in stiches🤣
"Unless you are Linus Sebastian" joke, really well delivered.
It doesn't matter how big the battery is when it comes to charge time, you can always increase the charge current as long as you have sufficient cooling. A 50kwh battery and a 100kwh battery will charge in the same time under a 1C load.
The Labs analysis is cool, but I have to pause the video for a couple of minutes every second to actually take it all in and then rewatch it to actually hear what Alex had to say. The format needs work, guys.
In the "lab notes" on the frequency response, it looks like the Volvo vs Mercedes labels are swapped. Also, it's a bit confusing why the dip around 20-40Hz is missing in the chart at 12:57.
LTT Version of Top Gear. LOVE IT. NEED MORE.
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Alex is genuinely really good at these reviews. I’m an avid car guy and tech guy and I really like how he blends both coming from LTT.
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My E-Class has the hood latch hidden too, I always just thought it was for aesthetics. By the way, It says EQS-580 on the back, and if that car is similar in spec to their 50+ deciliter displacement AMG E-Class sedans, that price is less extreme than it seems. An E63 AMG is over $100,000, but the EQS-580 probably has a little less horsepower.
The title of the video perfectly describes the problem with this video, Alex actually didn't understand the targetgroup of the EQS. The owners are the same as for the classic S-Class, rich (older) people and CEOs who want to drive or be driven absolutly hassle free and with the most comfort possible. It's a luxury cruiser, not a Tesla Model S "sportssaloon" rival. The EQS is an absolute master piece in most of the stuff the target audience wants, and that has been the case for the S-Class as well for many, many years. Alex describes it as "not the best" driving experience, but it's just not made to be engaging and fun, instead it's made to just flow. I think he mostly just stepped a little bit too much out of his typical zone and tried to propose his expectations on what a car should be on this, instead of seeing it as what it is supposed to be.
I definetly get some/most of the other critical points (especially the capacitive touch), i'm not here to overly praise the car, it has its flaws, even some big ones! I just felt like Alex missed some points because of his personal point of view.
If car manufactueres can design away the need to open the bonnet/hood im all for it. A handy port to stick washer fluid in is great.
I love cars, and I love PCs. LMG is perfect for me. And I especially love that you guys aren't afraid to be really critical of the cars you review. A lot of the traditional car magazines tend to be nice to the carmakers and not mark the cars down in areas where they are bad, probably for fear that they won't get sent future models for review. I know Linus doesn't give a rat's ass about that so hooray for us, consumers!
Love the sound quality graphs, and using the volvo as a baseline / relative target helps. As a sound luddite, this kind of comparison tool helps immensely in determining 'better vs worse', at least for me. Keep on adding objective metrics like these to your vids please! :)
Yes another great Alex car video :DDD
really cool that lab 2 is big enough to do the car review stuff on a rainy day
Oh Dennis.... Never change. 🤣
'Let's do something harder'
'Let's go deep'
'I don't feel the balls'
Holy shit those LTT Labs notes, even though I barely understand half of it, are genius and really cool
I know a guy who bought on of those waiting for his model s plaid delivery… the fist plaid was delivered last week in Europe
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I used to work for the company that makes the body panels for this car (they the only supplier of these parts) and let me tell you, they are not made with the same “quality and craftsmanship” as the interior. Also, I thought the hood not being accessible to the end user was stupid when I heard it 2.5 years ago. And when I first saw the hood design I said, “Yeah, we’re gonna have problems stamping that”.
love these reviews! One thing you forgot to mention: the 10 degree back-wheel turning thing is a fucking subscription
the back trunk is white and already dirty. continues to climb into it with shoes on xd
This guy could start his own car review channel ... Really good!
The Hood part reminds me of Intel's label on the processors box that "it must be professionally installed."
With more to compare, the LAB Notes will be soo nice. I dont know of any other review having audio lab tests :)
The capacitive touch got me thinking. Our phones had actual buttons, now they are screens.
Regarding the capacitive buttons everyone is saying in the comments and you mentioned in video too that its cheaper BUT its a car that costs 150k .... in that price point I excpect quality EVERYWHERE. Sometimes looking at videos where expensive cars are reviewed im thinking to myself that my 35k Škoda is almost better in every daily driver attribute.
YO. the integrations with LTT labs with the freq response graphs fucking rocks! love seeing Labs doing its thing !!!
watched few of your car reviews last couple of days. it s like best reviews. all those life time car journalist are no match
8:23 this bit was amazing
The editing starting at 8:23 is 🔥... Props to the editor
Was blown away to see thede madmen did sounds tests to a car, love to see ltt labs showing data already
There's no need to press the logo to open the rear hatch. You can just kick your foot under the rear bumper where there is a motion sensor to do that. I bought an EQS 450+ at msrp for a lot less money than the 580. The car offers so many things that you will not find with Lucid or Tesla, like Apple CarPlay, SiriusXM radio, a sunroof that actually opens for fresh air and the 4 wheel steering. There is also a shade on the sunroof. Almost any feature can be accessed by saying Hey Mercedes, including changing the color of the ambient lighting. With two years of free charging at Electrify America, I have had almost no cost in driving 4000 miles. With Plug and Charge, adding juice is as easy as a Tesla. My only problem was a low tire pressure alert that the dealer fixed in five minutes. You can only fit three golf bags in the back which was a little disappointment.
Nice to see the lab already bearing fruits with this frequency response graph and all the description with it! Good job!
I LOVE that you guys analyze the sound system, please never take that out of your car reviews!
I for one cannot wait for Alex to review the electric and hybrid Lexus models.
I love Alex's car review videos!
good video, don’t know how to do it better, feedback to labs stuff, me, a pleb, has no idea what the graphs mean so short explanation or text under the graphs explaining like in ltt with idk proceccor speed and the “lower is better” or something similar is what I’d love to see
That musical montage was amazing. More car reviews!
can you try to make a video about the light year 0
the soundtrack when he starts to drive. Wow 😍
Labs data
2:38 the graphic should be 107kWh not 170, almost lost my mind
Great video! I loved the shots of the car, the angle when Denis got into the car, and I am so excited to see more audio testing from LABS hell yeah. I think the editors should add little coloured bars to indicate when the next "slide" of the labs results are going to appear next.
3:48 wth? $160 000 car cannot properly mount the AC controls while my $16 000 car can? :D
There are 2 errors in the video, probably because the LTT Labs bit is new:
12:50 Top-right, "Target Frequyency Response"
12:54 Top-right, Labels are swapped
Also some nitpicks:
12:57 Top-right, very inconsistent labeling
13:03 Top-right, "Individual Harmonics" is a little hard to read, maybe add an outline to the text?
Happy to see car reviewers with the same distain for capacitive touch buttons as I do.
The lab analytics stuff is hella cool. Please put it on a website as well!
North up navigation. I agree. Thank you Alex.
3:10
shots fired lol
Honestly I don't know if this would be legal in Belgium. During our driving exam we have to be able to open the hood, and I think during the yearly inspection as well.
The Volve and Mercedes lines are mislabeled in the graph at 12:54 :(