The brake pedal reminds me of old 1970’s cruise control. You’d set it and it’d pull the gas pedal away from your foot. It was very disconcerting at first, but it only happened once when you set it. I can’t imagine chasing the brake pedal. That’s a recall and a class action waiting to happen.
Funny enough, as much as I hate the moronic idea behind it, I didn't find the break pedal to be much of an issue in real-world driving. It's still such an unexplainably idiotic thing to do though. Usually some of these weird decisions from legacy car makers are driven by the desire to not alienate their aging customer base, and make EVs more "similar" to ICE cars. In this case though, it's just a baffling choice, as no ICE car has that stupid behaviour.
I was gonna make a comment about this except I had a 2008 car that did this (Mitsubishi so the technology was probably carried over since the 80s). Always thought it was strange. But having the brake pedal push back at me, like the car is deciding for itself would not fly with me.
In regards to the Hyperscreen UI layout, I've seen similar issues before....in late 90s, early 2000s. Cars started getting a lot of new functions you could control, and Ergonomics was a real issue. Then the industry seemed to follow certain standards that made sense, and get similar layouts where it counted, so you could go from car to car and quickly figure out most of the essential functions very quickly. With touchscreen controls, we are back in the Wild West, and it may take a while before auto makers figure out common sense controls that will become similar between all makes. It sucks, but give it 5-10 years. I'm still a fan of analog controls for some things that don't require any eye contact
I don’t think you could jump from a Citroen to an EQS and then a chevy. Mercedes knows their customer, they don’t try to please all customers. In terms of tech features they are way ahead of the industry
Anything I have to adjust while driving (especially not directly in front of or on the steering wheel) that should be analog even if it’s faux analog with haptics behind a molded piece.
12:52 Even when in radar cruise and slowing down, a 2022 Acura RDX (yes, i know it’s a gas car, the one in the video is electric) fixed this problem. It has a drive by wire system, so your brakes and accelerator are electronically controlled, so the brake pedal never moves when the car brakes on its own.
Great review. I custom ordered my EQS 580 in January, and it literally JUST ARRIVED. 8 months later =/ It's getting delivered to me this week. I am coming out of a GLE, so I'm most nervous about missing the engine sound. But I think it'll be nice having the quietness. I am a fan of comfort and luxury interiors, so this review solidified my thoughts. Thanksss.
The wisest thing that should be on every wise individual's list is to invest in different stream of income and don't depend on the government to bring in money especially now the pandemic is hitting the economy
That's correct the right choice of investment has always been a big problem for me because picking up the wrong investment will possibly leave a big scar in the future...Have you made any profit whatsoever working with this pro ?
@@eventusvantos8586 What are you on about? Hitting the brake pedal is a reflex when you see dangerous conditions in front of you. Moving the pedal hinders this reflex and makes the car more dangerous to drive. That is why 2 people have called it a "safety hazard" and I agree. No other car with cruise control or regen braking moves the brake or accel pedal when it speeds up or slows down, and maybe there's a reason for that?
@@scepter0143 what are YOU on about? Your foot will be on the brake always so can react immediately without any issues It doesn't hinder it at all Yes other cars with ACC have this too and basically no one has ever complained about it before. Plus if you don't like it you can turn it off And either way you would still know where the break pedal is. They didn't move it to the side. It's still there just already pushed in if you don't know where the brake pedal is you shouldn't be on the road
I think this was a really well thought out video. A lot of auto journalists and TH-camrs don't consciously keep in mind what you said in the beginning; some things are just not for you, doesn't mean they are bad.
I test drove the regular EQS and it's got so many stupid design decisions that it would probably frustrate me to no end. But! It was the most sublime driving experience I've ever had, and I had a few high-end cars before (Q7, e-tron). Never felt as comfortable and serene in a car before.
I love this channel more and more. So cool to see a guy who actually drives these things talk about the goods and the bads. I could never afford something like this, but it's cool to see the state of the tech, and tech is what Marques has always done so well.
@@pet1err Plenty of car reviewers present the tech properly in a whole package. It's obvious that Marques is not a car person as much as I love most of his stuff.
Drive what things, this is a car, lots of people drive cars. People who review cars are no more qualified to speak to their strengths or weaknesses than anybody else. They also use these care for about a day, maybe a little longer.
I love it ..The pedals you can set it up at no regen and they won't move. The only reason they move is so that in active regen, you don't press them too hard and then you stop before you intended it to stop.
The brake lever moving is definitely strange, but it's hard to strike a good balance. There's gotta be some compromise between the pedal travel, the amount of force/torque it takes to push the pedal down, and the amount of braking action such that one of these doesn't match the way you'd expect it to be with exclusively friction brakes.
The hood not opening is a deal breaker for me. Just imagine having a battery losing a charge and you can’t go to a parts store but must find a dealer. Good luck if you’re in the middle of a trip and no Mercedes dealers are around. Insane!
The hood does open and you don't need to go to a dealer for that. Under the steering wheel around where the fusebox normally is is a release for the hood. Sarah-n-Tuned did a review on this a yr ago.
Really been enjoying these review videos, they are great stuff. Are you only sticking to high-end EVs or all? I would love your opinion on the ID.4, IONIQ, and EV6.
The Skoda Octavia 2020 actually has the don’t forget your phone message too. Also if you use ACC and the car brakes the pedal is moving too. It’s weird the first time but after like 2 hours it wasn’t a problem for me anymore so I think you can easily get used to it. Nice video. I really like how you talk about those things
So cool to see a TH-camr with dozens of 8K cameras, a team of professionals, robots, lenses, the whole bit, just standing in a parking lot with his iPhone shooting a onetake and uploading it to prove a point. Love it 😆
MKBHD, I just wanted to tell you that all your channels are bangers and now that you have a car channel you’re right up there with @DougDeMuro in your entertainment value. This is by far one of my favorite channels and the fact that you have almost 500k subscribers already is a testament to that. Keep the content coming!
His good, I agree, but saying his on the Doug Demuro level is a stretch. I personally think he doesn't have the credibility (Yet) in the auto reviewing segment
Quirks and features.... quirks and features... quirks and features.... Doug kills me with that... and the camera being to close to his head when driving.
You just compared Doug who is truly a car guy and enthusiast with long term cars experience to this guy who is boring? 😅 I love how other contents but he is not yet good here.
Do love these AutoFocus vids and the fact that smart phones are being used to record them. would be great if in some future videos multiple phones could be used and labelled so we can see the difference in the same video!
The brake pedal and accelerator moves on the Tesla. This is a good thing because it means that you can learn the position of where a particular speed is. It means that the system can disengage when your foot touches the pedal and for braking and acceleration, it means that when you let off that pedal, the same relative change in action of that pedal happens that would normally happen. If the brake pedal was not depressed for example, then how would you be able to "release" it to stop braking?
In France (I don't know about other European countries), the brake lights can only flash if you press the brake pedal, or in case of automatic emergency breaking. It seems that Mercedes decided to have the brake pedal automatically pressed to go around the regulation, and have the rear lights to flash when regenerating energy.
Pretty sure it's just Mercedes making up dumb "features". No reson they would have to put it on US cars because of a french law. Also, i've driven plenty off EVs in europe that engages the brake light when it's regening hard enough to warrent it. Without moving the pedal.
Funny, I always thought making the break pedal move to the “new” mechanical breaking position makes sense. Some cars will give you no mechanical braking until you reach the “new” position and then you will get, suddenly, the brakes. New position means you depress and you immediately get the pads to work. I love it
Exactly. People could panic when they start pushing the pedal and there is no reaction (until pedal does not reach position where it is already virtually "pushed" by regeneration). For some it may seem that brakes failed and they could hit brakes right to the end which may be dangerous (especially on highway).
That there has been my biggest problem with ev's so far, once you get into your zone and forget that you have regen on and you go damn this isn't slowing down fast enough and then you naturally apply 2x pressure but you then hit the actual breaks but now it's almost like an emergency stop kinda force which noone behind you is ready for. so yeah I think the way mercedes implemented it is way smarter.
As a skilled driver, the brake pedal should not move. It's extremely dangerous for it to move. Could cost you your whole car in many scenarios. The brake pedal should perform consistently between all modes. I suspect that the Merc is simply not actually regen braking. How could the pedal move if it isn't braking?
WRT the hyper screen menu layers, I believe the intent is to use the ‘Hey Mercedes’ voice commands to get to what you want done, rather than going through the menus while driving. I have the same issue with the Tesla screen….. and don’t get me started on the ergonomic/safety issue of not having the screen in front of the driver. I absolutely love your videos…. They are helping me to shape my options for an EV when Australia eventually has the infrastructure to support ownership of an EV (including Tesla’s).
Funny you mentioned the cell phone notification, a 2021 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid notifies you if the cell phone is left in the wireless charger or if the sunroof is open. Haven't seen that in other cars until this review of the EQS SUV.
@mkbhd the part is where the new Mercedes OS shines is the voice control. You can change all settings easier then with any other car and in all details via voice. You never have to go into system menues or even have to use the touch screen.
I have a 2022 Mercedes EQV so similar but different and my brake pedal doesn't move on auto regen or on cruise control , the problem with this is that when I take over the controls the cancellation of the cruise will stop the braking as soon as I touch the pedal so effectively by pressing the pedal from the top I am actually removing pressure not adding it. It's a very strange feeling to get used to when approaching a roundabout etc
Great review I agree with just about everything you said I've driven the car before but my question is where'd you get your shoes from? That's what I want!👍🏾😂
Beautiful car. Model X territory with the price, but MB build quality and materials is just next level and gives actual luxury. Wish we had some time with you driving this one, though, to get an idea of sound isolation, the sound system, acceleration, etc., etc.
About the dock thing. It literally has that with the "zero layer" on the bottom there are all the most recently used things like music controls, climate, favorite nav destinations, etc. and it tries to anticipate what you might need. Putting the settings there could easily be done but outside of a review scenario how often do you really adjust these things?
I'm with you on the automatically moving brake pedal, that would drive me nuts. The Tesla Model 3 does something like this too, but only when FSD brakes, or when you enable blending regen and braking, and it transitions from regen to braking as you coast to a stop.
@@eriksopracasa3449 I said it does something *like* this (i.e. not exactly the same thing). Tesla's brake pedal definitely does depress automatically when FSD brings the car to a stop, or when the driver coasts to a stop, or when regenerative braking is limited. You can control this behavior in the settings though.
I don't own an EV yet, but I recently rented an VW ID.4 for a long road trip. I don't think the brake pedal moved, but it definitely had this intuitive/smart regen braking, and I actually loved it. If there was a long downhill section I didn't have to worry about changing the amount of regen, or adjusting with the brake, to keep a perfect distance to the car in front. I just chose the distance I wanted, and it kept that for me by increasing or decreasing the amount of regen. But it didn't just pay attention to cars, also did it for sharp bends and it kept track of the speed limit. So if I was regening down a hill at lets say 80km/t, but then the speed limit changed to 50km/h, I didn't have to do a thing, it just applied more regen and continued at 50km/h. As long as you have the ability to switch such smart assists on/off as you please, or override it when needed, I think they are awesome.
I have a 2022 Lexus NX which has the new large 14-inch infotainment display and I agree on many different things that you discussed regarding the screen I do love it but it can at times be very cumbersome. And, yes the fingerprints they drive me INSANE!
@@willitbreak5825 as much as I hate Elon, I've never seen a car that can match Tesla's software. That's why we went for a Model 3 and our next car will likely be a Tesla too. I had the privilege to try out tons of EVs using Onto (British EV subscription service) and most of them are painfully bad. I now have a Fiat 500e from them, and it's quite decent in that regard. The EQS software is pure insanity, it would take weeks just to get used to the Nokia-ass menu layouts. Oh, funny thing about the Audi app, if you try to lock/unlock the doors through it for example, the typical delay is about 1 minute 🤣
@@theyruinedyoutubeagain I’ve watched videos comparing their supercharger network and other charging options and it’s a similar situation too. Electrify America for example has lots of chargers, but their uptime and reliability is very questionable. Also regarding Elon, the product is ultimately what matters. Been noticing much of the media hating on Musk, and while much of it is self inflicted, there’s also a ton of misinformation on him. For example, SpaceX never threatened to turn off Starlink in Ukraine, whereas the media made it seem like that pentagon email re: funding was like blackmail. Musk is also seen as a Russian asset when his businesses are direct competitors with Russia which is contradictory. Curious what things he’s done that you dislike. Regardless, have a happy new year!
I have the same Thing in my Golf GTI. Actually, all of the VW Group brands does that, and there isn’t any problem with that, so it’s a polemic for nothing.
@@mr.phantic6185 Safety hazard; for many people hitting the brake pedal is a reflex when they see a deer or car coming up in front of them. If you move the pedal, the reflex becomes confused and less effective. While you're experienced with it in your personal car, there's no telling how someone renting the car out or driving it for the first time is going to react. I, personally, would pull over immediately if I felt my pedals moving without my input because it would catch me off guard.
People could panic if they start to push brake pedal and at the start of pushing there would be no reaction (because pedal is already virtually (but not physically) pushed by regeneration). And after pushing the pedal more deeply a reaction would kick-in. Now (when pedal is moving) you get immediate effect if you start to push it deeper (than was already pushed by regeneration).
Man, I love that you started this channel! I've really enjoyed the content. Now, I don't have Mercedes money, but I definitely don't have find-the-brake-pedal money. I'm not sure why all of these EVs still have the front end that is designed to force air into a combustion engine. Wouldn't aero improve range?
They still have to be flat to some point because of pedestrian safety- if it's too sharply angled it won't meet pedestrian safety- standards and won't be allowed to be sold in a lot of places
Just a heads up these cars have the lowest drag coefficient of any vehicle on the road… it’s called the one bow design. I love his reviews but clearly has not been educated on how these work. I sell these for a living and can tell he has never had a proper training.
I have a 2019 Audi A6, it has the wireless dock for Apple Car play and will actually talk to you through the speakers and tell you “your phone is still in the vehicle”. It also has a gigantic glass screen (multiple displays) in it, which I actually love. Great stuff as always, thanks MKB.
Yeah, VAG cars have this feature for more than 10 years. It shows this message if a mobile device is connected via bluetooth. Its a pretty simple but very helpful feature.
The braking system tech is from their Formula 1 EV engine braking/machinal braking system to recharge the batteries. The brake pedal moved in a closer position during the bits of the race when the driver is recharging the batteries while the engine is under load. Lewis Hamilton explained the process in on of the MB F1 channel vlogs
Love the red shoes. They look great! I won't be in the market for a car at this expense, but learning about it was intriguing. I am planning on the Chevy Equinox 2LT EV.
That moving brake pedal is crazy! As far as it letting you know that your phone is in the car, Audi has done that for a while as well. It does it by voice when you open the car. "Your mobile phone is still in the vehicle"
same in my 2017 audi. He should really test drive all popular cars before making any review. Bc the main point to watch a review for many is to decide which car to buy.
@@boian-inavov this feature has been around for a while, however he's only tested a range of electric vehicles. I guess that's why he hasn't really seen it in other cars yet
I don't mind digging through menus for stuff I don't change (how the exterior sounds). I wonder how configurable it is once you've set it up for your fingerprint. Can your spouse have a different setup with her fingerprint?
I think that I'd be able to work out the brakes thing; not a deal breaker 😉 for me. As an engineer that designs a lot of mechanical and software interfaces, the buttons that can get accidentally pressed and the clunky Android interface drives me nuts. I'm sure that they knew the problem but got too far into the implementation to reasonably rework it in this revision. Here's hoping for MB listening to the reviews and acting on them.
The brake pedal moving has been a thing on older benzes when they first launched their radar guided cruise control in the early 2000s. The first time you drive it feels scary but i got used to it quickly and i actually kinda prefer it
@@orderlyhippo1569 I've had '96 Pontiac transport minivan. Yes, it's gas pedal moved corresponding to speed set on cruise control. Really weird, especially if slowing down with cruise and pedal suddenly pushing into you
That explains why the EQB 300 in India feels weird when braking. The pedal has no physical movement, but when applying brakes, the brake pedal feels disconnected when recuperation modes are turned on. Thank you for the clarification.
I drove a eqs400 as rental a few weeks ago in Germany and I found the middle console buttons annoying as well, and generally, I had a hard time getting used to where the gears were. How about a budget review of a Volvo ex30?
Since more regeneration brakes the car more it adjusts the brakepedal accordingly. That way, how quickly the car slows down with say a half way pushed pedal is consistent with different levels of regeneration. It does make sense in a way. I dont think I would like it either though. But maybe its just a thing that is weird because its unusual and you just have to get used to it, sort of like teslas steering wheel.
Doesn't make sense. The brake pedal is not connected to the motors. I would assume it's actually just braking, and there is no regen on this car. The pedal only moves if the brakes are being used, at least if it's hydraulic. One would expect the necessary brake pressure to change if you changed the regen level. Pretty sure Mercedes is just scamming people. This car should be sold for no more than $80k.
In my manual transmission car, i have stronger engine braking at high engine speed (similar to regen), if I downshift and the engine is at 6000 RPM, it will have stronger engine braking than at 3000 RPM. If the brake pedal wiggled around based on the strength of engine braking, that would be extremely dangerous. I'm like 95% sure the Mercedes is not regen braking. There is only one way the brake pedal moves, and that's by activating the brakes. I'm sure we will eventually hear the brakes squealing on older cars when they let off, expecting regen.
See this irks me a lot drives me crazy infact. Since I haven't driven an EV I didn't understand why Mercedes where doing this, so when every review complained about it I assumed this was just outrageous but after learning why it is done this why this makes sense. What drives me crazy though is how everyone just accepts the Tesla yoke as "ah you will get used to it" but they think this break implementation is the stupidest thing ever invented. It's many things Tesla does where a lot of reviewers don't criticise to the extent other cars get criticised and this is why we are losing climate control nobs 😂.
I like the front KINDA, its super bubbly looking, like literally it looks like a bubble and I'm a personal fan of a more rigid and sharp design, it looks more sleek and stylish, also it looks super small, not if it's just the video but it just looks like a hatchback rather then an SUV
4:08 To open the trunk, just shortly hold your foot under the car. Then the trunk opens by itself. Without an app, without pressing the key, without a voice command. Pretty smart when you approach the car with full bags and can open the trunk that way.
The idea of having a duck on the center console is quite innovative. You'd have a companion to talk to, stroke its feathers and maybe the duck could warn you if you start falling asleep while driving. I like it!
Front hood that cannot be opened is anti-right-to-repair and subscription service for full performance is anti-consumer ownership. Was looking to replace my GLC, but these are deal breakers. Marques review was okay, but I am disappointed that he did not mention these two issues.
Seconded. Right to repair and consumer ownership are both essential in a truly "environmentally friendly" car. The concept of a luxury car isn't quite environmentally friendly, but to get into that market makes sense as manufacturers..... but this isn't it. Make things as workable as possible to avoid financial and material waste as much as possible.
13:50 Strange. I found it to be extremely well made, especially with navigation on and the "self steering" enabled, the EQC practiaclly drives itself in nearly all situations.
The "don't forget your charger screen" is on 2020 Hyundai palisade vehicles. of course the ones with the wireless charger built in, also once the car senses bad driving from operator , gives you a coffee symbol and tells you to "consider taking a break" , reminds of you ice conditions , etc... I think hyundai has done a great job with vehicles.
I have had Mercedes cars for a while now, 2 GLS, 1 GLE and 1 S 560. I am expecting my EQS SUV 580 next month. I tried the EQS but was very put off by the brakes on that car. EQS SUV has much better brakes. While I test drove it, I did not notice the brake pedal moving at all, which is strange because one of my main focus during the test drive was brakes. To me it means that I will possibly not be bothered by it much. The software piece I agree is a little too touch heavy, and I hope Mercedes cleans it up. The driving experience of the car though is awesome, and the technology and comfort are better than any other electric vehicle I have tested, and that's saying something because I do agonizing research over the car I plan to buy. For me, this seemed to fit like a glove. The range numbers worry me a little though. Mercedes claims 340 miles, which was a big selling point for me, and you memtioned 260-280. That's a huge difference, and I love to drive my cars...bummer Love all your content and you have helped me make many tech decisions correctly In the past. So THANK YOU!
We took delivery of our eqs suv this week and I have not noticed the brake pedal as an issue even on one pedal driving. I miss our Tesla for how intuitive things were, but the eqs suv is a better car. Once we’re navigating and on our way it is better. But if they could just be a little better at software the eqs could be a grand slam.
@@randypitcherii congratulations! Can't wait for mine! It's got all the bells and whistles they had to offer and i am looking forward to it. Currently stuck in shipping.
Nice Video! I feel that the sound features just appeared and got too less attention, since I think it is one of the most interesting features that happened in the car industry in the last 10 years. The fact you can change what your car sounds in the inside while you are accelerating and braking has to be insanely fun. Also saw a video of an AMG EV which makes sounds that sound like a transformer on the outside when you lock or unlock it. What a time to be alive, :D would love to play with those feature in person. But yes, the moving brake pedal is weird. Would be a no go for me when I would buy a car.
I can see the utility in having the brake pedal move. Like in regen mode u actually have to calibrate to how strong the regen is and sometimes it’s jolty and irritating. Having a feedback with the amount of braking power available taking regen into consideration is actually pretty neat, especially in chauffeur driven scenarios. The only contention should be the ability to switch it on and off in the settings. Considering the response to this, Mercedes will push that in an ota really soon.
the content on both of your channels is dope, appreciate it sir! was a little bid surprised that you never saw a “phone on charger” notification in any other car you reviewed. it’s not that innovative anymore, even my 2017 BMW does that. to handle the hyperscreen chaos, you use the profile to save all of your preferred settings and then create favorites for your most often used functions. you can access them then directly from the homescreen.
@@colors6692 that is not how it works, tesla might have sponsored a video (which im pretty sure they didnt), but they cant sponsor an entire channel or person
I saw this a couple of months ago. Why it does not have a front trunk was beyond my understanding...considering its an EV..it got me curious what is under there. The dealership guy told me it had a HEPA filter and HVAC system that fills up that extra space!
Great video. Can you do some videos that really go in-depth on the infotainment tech only? For example, while the MBUX may not be for you, an in-depth of the Zero Layer aspect of MBUX is something that I rarely see in reviews and am very interested in. There is a vision that is being lost to many reviewers I feel as most don’t spend enough time with the car for it to learn your habits and thus customize the screen automatically for you as it was built to do. At the end of the day, just like a PC or Mac, most people use very little of the true capabilities of the machine because of their routines and habits. The intelligent learning in MBUX is envisioned to do that for you without you needing a software engineering degree to set up your car. Honourable mention should also go to the gesture controls in the car, that would be an interesting in-depth tech video.
Hi! Ex-Mercedes designer here who worked on the Zero Layer tiles and the settings. You're right, the idea is that MBUX learns your behavior and habits over time and shows tiles at the bottom that are relevant to you in the moment depending on where you go, what you do, who is in the car (that's why you have profiles). I assume (not sure if true?) Marques uses Android Auto most of the time instead of MBUX itself (I understand why… HERE Maps suck imo), and because he didn't have a personalized profile I assume he missed out on the intelligence behind the system. It's actually pretty smart when it gets the opportunity to learn more about you. After some time, you don't necessarily have to enter a certain app again as what you're trying to do will show up as a Zero Layer tile at the bottom proactively. The problem is just that Android Auto and CarPlay are completely autonomous systems and MBUX can not learn about a user's behavior when they only stick to those solutions. I know that the settings UI is not optimal, but that's just caused by a HUGE amount of features (which Marques mentioned in his vid) which all often need some sort of setting. Believe me, this is already a much nicer version of settings than what it used to be! :D
@@sam0711er Wow, dynamically adjusting tiles sounds horrible in a car. Why not display a separate bar and let the user choose favourites? No, it must be AI-Blockchain-Buzzword-driven.
@@larsb8665 Without going into too much detail, Zero Layer showed less necessary interactions with the touchscreen with users, and together with the voice assistant basically eliminates a lot of taps on the screen -> Less distraction. Yes, Marketers loves buzzwords, but Designers like practical solutions. Any intelligence on screen also converts into intelligence with the voice assistant. I'm curious: Have you had the chance to try the system for some time and had a bad experience?
@@larsb8665 Also, there is a backup solution like you described if you don't like Zero Layer, where you can go back to a bar and choose the order of the menu items. Just press and hold on the home button.
Nice vid, thanks. I am sure someone might have mentioned it, but just in case: My Kona EV also realizes that when the driver is leaving the car and his/her smart phone ist still on the charging pad - and then chimes and gives a text message. Again: Marques should test-drive the Kona - for an early EV (Hyundae just annouced its 3rd version if you count the facelift from last year) and as a car which was designed for different drive-trains, it does a lot of things right :) Also, the absence of the pedal driving is a no-no - we also drive a Smart EV (one from the time when Smart was a Mercedes brand) and it also got that non-optional adaptive regenerative braking. Don‘t like it, too. :)
Coming in right off the bat saying things so many people don't want to. So many people, including tech reviewers, jump to call things "bad" when in reality, they just aren't the target audience.
Really great review. I like the piece about the braking. This would personally concern me too, for the exact same reason. When braking, you can't be second-guessing yourself. I am not a big fan of the exterior styling of this car. It doesn't look like a 130k car. The fact that theres no frunk is annoying. Interior does look pretty nice tho! Why are car manufacturers moving away from quick access buttons!?? These are useful for drivers.
I understand that vehicles are getting more expensive, that this is a Mercedes, and that EV's also carry a price premium. But when I heard the $130k price tag, I was pretty shocked. Usually without even knowing the model, you can tell if something is a $100k+ Mercedes/BMW/Audi by how it looks. This thing looks like a mass market model Mercedes (from the exterior and a lot of the interior) with a max sticker of about $80k with every feature.
Totally disagree. This looks and feels like 130k car. It’s literally higher quality than the Tesla Model S Plaid in almost every way and that’s a 120k car with creaky bits.
The new VW Golf does the same thing with the brake pedal when using the adaptive cruise. The first time I used it I went to hover my foot over the pedal as a just-in-case and once I felt the pedal move away from me I panicked and ended up slamming on the brakes. One of the most in-nerving experiences I’ve had in a car and something I don’t think I could ever get used to.
With adaptive cruise, it makes sense because the vehicle needs to slow down to match traffic. The pedal moving under regen in manual driving is unacceptable.
@@NoBaconForYou I’ve driven a few cars with adaptive cruise and non of them apart from the good had the pedal move. It’s honestly unnecessary and removes all muscle memory
Got it.... Mercedes EQS = The Baby Shark of EV's.
Love your videos !
Hi Johnny
enough damage done.
The part that ended me, was when he said "It's AMAZING... to Toddlers" 😭😭
hahaha
The brake pedal reminds me of old 1970’s cruise control. You’d set it and it’d pull the gas pedal away from your foot. It was very disconcerting at first, but it only happened once when you set it. I can’t imagine chasing the brake pedal. That’s a recall and a class action waiting to happen.
Funny enough, as much as I hate the moronic idea behind it, I didn't find the break pedal to be much of an issue in real-world driving. It's still such an unexplainably idiotic thing to do though. Usually some of these weird decisions from legacy car makers are driven by the desire to not alienate their aging customer base, and make EVs more "similar" to ICE cars. In this case though, it's just a baffling choice, as no ICE car has that stupid behaviour.
The pedal pushing back at me while I'm trying to stop would seriously get me tilted.
I had a newer car that did this, I can't recall the exact one. I wanna say my 90s mustang did it
I was gonna make a comment about this except I had a 2008 car that did this (Mitsubishi so the technology was probably carried over since the 80s). Always thought it was strange. But having the brake pedal push back at me, like the car is deciding for itself would not fly with me.
any cable throttle car will move the gas pedal in cruise control.
In regards to the Hyperscreen UI layout, I've seen similar issues before....in late 90s, early 2000s. Cars started getting a lot of new functions you could control, and Ergonomics was a real issue. Then the industry seemed to follow certain standards that made sense, and get similar layouts where it counted, so you could go from car to car and quickly figure out most of the essential functions very quickly. With touchscreen controls, we are back in the Wild West, and it may take a while before auto makers figure out common sense controls that will become similar between all makes. It sucks, but give it 5-10 years. I'm still a fan of analog controls for some things that don't require any eye contact
I don’t think you could jump from a Citroen to an EQS and then a chevy. Mercedes knows their customer, they don’t try to please all customers. In terms of tech features they are way ahead of the industry
Mmm, you have a point. There are certain outliers of the industry average. Porsche has their ignition on the left side of steering wheel, for example.
Touch just doesn't work
Even Volkswagen said that they're going back to buttons
Anything I have to adjust while driving (especially not directly in front of or on the steering wheel) that should be analog even if it’s faux analog with haptics behind a molded piece.
12:52 Even when in radar cruise and slowing down, a 2022 Acura RDX (yes, i know it’s a gas car, the one in the video is electric) fixed this problem. It has a drive by wire system, so your brakes and accelerator are electronically controlled, so the brake pedal never moves when the car brakes on its own.
Can confirm Baby shark is amazing
Baby shark is better than Despacito
I just saw a video today of a semi truck with a baby shark horn and I laughed so hard
Rabbani >>>>>>>>>> Baby Shark
Baby shark is life savior
So how do you feel about this car. Just trying to judge your level of sanity
Marques Brownlee: the only person to be able to seamlessly integrate Baby Shark into a Merc EV review 👏
such a diss tho haha
This car is now 'The Baby Shark Car' 🤣
Marques brownlee: musk worshipper pro tesla shill who trashing every other non tesla ev..
Great review. I custom ordered my EQS 580 in January, and it literally JUST ARRIVED. 8 months later =/ It's getting delivered to me this week. I am coming out of a GLE, so I'm most nervous about missing the engine sound. But I think it'll be nice having the quietness. I am a fan of comfort and luxury interiors, so this review solidified my thoughts. Thanksss.
Aaaaand?😅
The wisest thing that should be on every wise individual's list is to invest in different stream of income and don't depend on the government to bring in money especially now the pandemic is hitting the economy
you are definitely right , waiting on the government is a big waste
Investments are the stepping Stones to success especially if you been guided by a professional
Investing is good but investing in the right thing is the actual key to success . who is your pro ?
There are so many investment out there but if profits must be considered then not all investments are good to go into.
That's correct the right choice of investment has always been a big problem for me because picking up the wrong investment will possibly leave a big scar in the future...Have you made any profit whatsoever working with this pro ?
Brake pedal moving is actually wild, borderline safety hazard
Atrocious
It's a definite safety hazard. How was this even approved??
No its not
@@eventusvantos8586 What are you on about? Hitting the brake pedal is a reflex when you see dangerous conditions in front of you. Moving the pedal hinders this reflex and makes the car more dangerous to drive. That is why 2 people have called it a "safety hazard" and I agree. No other car with cruise control or regen braking moves the brake or accel pedal when it speeds up or slows down, and maybe there's a reason for that?
@@scepter0143 what are YOU on about? Your foot will be on the brake always so can react immediately without any issues
It doesn't hinder it at all
Yes other cars with ACC have this too and basically no one has ever complained about it before.
Plus if you don't like it you can turn it off
And either way you would still know where the break pedal is. They didn't move it to the side. It's still there just already pushed in if you don't know where the brake pedal is you shouldn't be on the road
That windshield washer fluid thing is a super QUIRKY feature.
Doug deMouro would agree on that.
And it's there because you, as the owner, are not allowed to open the hood. Seems really odd to me.
Seems a little ugly and a bit of an afterthought in the design process.
I think this was a really well thought out video. A lot of auto journalists and TH-camrs don't consciously keep in mind what you said in the beginning; some things are just not for you, doesn't mean they are bad.
Your auto focus videos are great! But it would be nice to see more cars like EV6, Mach-E, Ioniq 5 etc
The IONIQ 5 video is on the main channel (5 months ago), but yeah, I can’t wait for more car reviews
I test drove the regular EQS and it's got so many stupid design decisions that it would probably frustrate me to no end. But! It was the most sublime driving experience I've ever had, and I had a few high-end cars before (Q7, e-tron). Never felt as comfortable and serene in a car before.
Ride in a S class. The EQS is a sorry excuse for a car
Brake hates you
@@ThunderGoatz no its not. You're a sorry excuse of a person
@@ThunderGoatz no its not
@@ThunderGoatz no its not 🤡
I love this channel more and more. So cool to see a guy who actually drives these things talk about the goods and the bads. I could never afford something like this, but it's cool to see the state of the tech, and tech is what Marques has always done so well.
He's not really a good car reviewer though. It's really not his jam.
@@BrawndoQC He is presenting the car from a tech perspective so probably this is why it doesn’t sounds really good.
@@pet1err Plenty of car reviewers present the tech properly in a whole package. It's obvious that Marques is not a car person as much as I love most of his stuff.
Lol there’s nothing cool about an ignorant black man who promotes vehicles built using child and slave labor.
Drive what things, this is a car, lots of people drive cars. People who review cars are no more qualified to speak to their strengths or weaknesses than anybody else. They also use these care for about a day, maybe a little longer.
I love it ..The pedals you can set it up at no regen and they won't move. The only reason they move is so that in active regen, you don't press them too hard and then you stop before you intended it to stop.
But it’s easier to learn just to press them lightly when needing to use friction breaks while slowing down.
wtf is all this regen and blah blah? how about just press down to brake? this is like driving a computer, not a car.
In the first 25 seconds, you've spread more wisdom on youtube than 99% of all other channels in 99% of their time. Love your stuff!
You've watched the whole content of 99% of all youtube channels? You must be 1340 years old.
The brake lever moving is definitely strange, but it's hard to strike a good balance. There's gotta be some compromise between the pedal travel, the amount of force/torque it takes to push the pedal down, and the amount of braking action such that one of these doesn't match the way you'd expect it to be with exclusively friction brakes.
Tesla does this very well imho.
How does Formula 1 do it? They’ve been using KERS/ERS for ten years plus now
@@derxen Yep exactly. And with a Tesla, or other EVs it doens't move the break pedal. That is a massive flaw in design.
The hood not opening is a deal breaker for me. Just imagine having a battery losing a charge and you can’t go to a parts store but must find a dealer. Good luck if you’re in the middle of a trip and no Mercedes dealers are around. Insane!
It looks like this car has already been in a crash, looking at the hood/wing alignment.
Really appreciate the review. Thank you!
Just so straight to it right at the beginning and i love it
i really love your automotive content, keep it up ^^
beep it up ^^
The hood does open and you don't need to go to a dealer for that. Under the steering wheel around where the fusebox normally is is a release for the hood. Sarah-n-Tuned did a review on this a yr ago.
I was wondering about right to repair that mkbhd usually touts but he entirely even forgot to mention that here. this is like Benz pulling an apple...
@@user-eg3zs6oi7c They can't, Tesla already has declared dibs on that business model.
Really love all of your review, You are truly realistic on your review on both automobile as well as on the tech
Great review. Thank you. It may be the camera but it looks like the interior dome lights are not LED. Is that correct?
Really been enjoying these review videos, they are great stuff. Are you only sticking to high-end EVs or all? I would love your opinion on the ID.4, IONIQ, and EV6.
The Skoda Octavia 2020 actually has the don’t forget your phone message too. Also if you use ACC and the car brakes the pedal is moving too. It’s weird the first time but after like 2 hours it wasn’t a problem for me anymore so I think you can easily get used to it.
Nice video. I really like how you talk about those things
If there was an Octavia Wagon EV, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I live in Australia and we don't even get the PHEVs here.
ACC ... Assetto Corsa Ccompetizione?? 😏 😼 😏
/s
@@sanitater3271 woah I didn’t know that. Do you know why?
Audi too.. For a few years now, I think. Since we're talking about Skoda and Audi, maybe VW does as well.
BMW does it too for phone reminder
Luxury, But Not for Me either! This is a great presentation, finally a car channel I don't mind subscribing to!
Brake pedal on my 2005 Mercedes SLK moves when going downhill on cruise control. I love it.
So cool to see a TH-camr with dozens of 8K cameras, a team of professionals, robots, lenses, the whole bit, just standing in a parking lot with his iPhone shooting a onetake and uploading it to prove a point. Love it 😆
Doug Demuro has been doing this type of shooting format for years!
What point is he trying to prove?
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH That anyone with the smartphone can take videos and upload it in TH-cam just like that.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH That saving money by making low effort videos without editing is great! lol
This isn't filmed in onetake
MKBHD, I just wanted to tell you that all your channels are bangers and now that you have a car channel you’re right up there with @DougDeMuro in your entertainment value. This is by far one of my favorite channels and the fact that you have almost 500k subscribers already is a testament to that. Keep the content coming!
His good, I agree, but saying his on the Doug Demuro level is a stretch. I personally think he doesn't have the credibility (Yet) in the auto reviewing segment
Yeah Doug is a stretch but this has become my favorite of all his channels. As a tech person who loves cars his channel fills a spot for me.
God Bless MKBHD 🙏🏻📱
God Bless President Trump🙏🏻🇺🇸
Quirks and features.... quirks and features... quirks and features....
Doug kills me with that... and the camera being to close to his head when driving.
You just compared Doug who is truly a car guy and enthusiast with long term cars experience to this guy who is boring? 😅 I love how other contents but he is not yet good here.
Do love these AutoFocus vids and the fact that smart phones are being used to record them. would be great if in some future videos multiple phones could be used and labelled so we can see the difference in the same video!
The brake pedal and accelerator moves on the Tesla. This is a good thing because it means that you can learn the position of where a particular speed is. It means that the system can disengage when your foot touches the pedal and for braking and acceleration, it means that when you let off that pedal, the same relative change in action of that pedal happens that would normally happen.
If the brake pedal was not depressed for example, then how would you be able to "release" it to stop braking?
In France (I don't know about other European countries), the brake lights can only flash if you press the brake pedal, or in case of automatic emergency breaking.
It seems that Mercedes decided to have the brake pedal automatically pressed to go around the regulation, and have the rear lights to flash when regenerating energy.
Renault Megane etech does it as well.
Regulation should really change, makes me feel bad for the car companies actually
Tesla does it too in UK
Pretty sure it's just Mercedes making up dumb "features". No reson they would have to put it on US cars because of a french law. Also, i've driven plenty off EVs in europe that engages the brake light when it's regening hard enough to warrent it. Without moving the pedal.
@@MarkusAJ I trust you but just for curiosity, which cars was it ?
Funny, I always thought making the break pedal move to the “new” mechanical breaking position makes sense. Some cars will give you no mechanical braking until you reach the “new” position and then you will get, suddenly, the brakes. New position means you depress and you immediately get the pads to work. I love it
Exactly. People could panic when they start pushing the pedal and there is no reaction (until pedal does not reach position where it is already virtually "pushed" by regeneration). For some it may seem that brakes failed and they could hit brakes right to the end which may be dangerous (especially on highway).
That there has been my biggest problem with ev's so far, once you get into your zone and forget that you have regen on and you go damn this isn't slowing down fast enough and then you naturally apply 2x pressure but you then hit the actual breaks but now it's almost like an emergency stop kinda force which noone behind you is ready for. so yeah I think the way mercedes implemented it is way smarter.
"brakes"
As a skilled driver, the brake pedal should not move. It's extremely dangerous for it to move. Could cost you your whole car in many scenarios. The brake pedal should perform consistently between all modes.
I suspect that the Merc is simply not actually regen braking. How could the pedal move if it isn't braking?
This makes no sense. Why/how would regen braking reduce the effectiveness of the brake pedal?? Simply not how it works.
WRT the hyper screen menu layers, I believe the intent is to use the ‘Hey Mercedes’ voice commands to get to what you want done, rather than going through the menus while driving. I have the same issue with the Tesla screen….. and don’t get me started on the ergonomic/safety issue of not having the screen in front of the driver. I absolutely love your videos…. They are helping me to shape my options for an EV when Australia eventually has the infrastructure to support ownership of an EV (including Tesla’s).
Funny you mentioned the cell phone notification, a 2021 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid notifies you if the cell phone is left in the wireless charger or if the sunroof is open. Haven't seen that in other cars until this review of the EQS SUV.
@mkbhd the part is where the new Mercedes OS shines is the voice control. You can change all settings easier then with any other car and in all details via voice. You never have to go into system menues or even have to use the touch screen.
I have a 2022 Mercedes EQV so similar but different and my brake pedal doesn't move on auto regen or on cruise control , the problem with this is that when I take over the controls the cancellation of the cruise will stop the braking as soon as I touch the pedal so effectively by pressing the pedal from the top I am actually removing pressure not adding it. It's a very strange feeling to get used to when approaching a roundabout etc
Great review I agree with just about everything you said I've driven the car before but my question is where'd you get your shoes from? That's what I want!👍🏾😂
Beautiful car. Model X territory with the price, but MB build quality and materials is just next level and gives actual luxury. Wish we had some time with you driving this one, though, to get an idea of sound isolation, the sound system, acceleration, etc., etc.
yes looks better than tesla
About the dock thing. It literally has that with the "zero layer" on the bottom there are all the most recently used things like music controls, climate, favorite nav destinations, etc. and it tries to anticipate what you might need. Putting the settings there could easily be done but outside of a review scenario how often do you really adjust these things?
I'm with you on the automatically moving brake pedal, that would drive me nuts. The Tesla Model 3 does something like this too, but only when FSD brakes, or when you enable blending regen and braking, and it transitions from regen to braking as you coast to a stop.
So tesla sucks too then ... thanks
The Tesla pedal doesn’t do that at all.
@@eriksopracasa3449 I said it does something *like* this (i.e. not exactly the same thing). Tesla's brake pedal definitely does depress automatically when FSD brings the car to a stop, or when the driver coasts to a stop, or when regenerative braking is limited. You can control this behavior in the settings though.
@@MrAllister9 did you even read the comment?
@@BrianOSheaPlus it absolutely doesn't do that. I have a Model 3 with FSD beta and the brake pedal doesn't move while it's engaged.
I don't own an EV yet, but I recently rented an VW ID.4 for a long road trip. I don't think the brake pedal moved, but it definitely had this intuitive/smart regen braking, and I actually loved it.
If there was a long downhill section I didn't have to worry about changing the amount of regen, or adjusting with the brake, to keep a perfect distance to the car in front. I just chose the distance I wanted, and it kept that for me by increasing or decreasing the amount of regen. But it didn't just pay attention to cars, also did it for sharp bends and it kept track of the speed limit. So if I was regening down a hill at lets say 80km/t, but then the speed limit changed to 50km/h, I didn't have to do a thing, it just applied more regen and continued at 50km/h.
As long as you have the ability to switch such smart assists on/off as you please, or override it when needed, I think they are awesome.
I have a 2022 Lexus NX which has the new large 14-inch infotainment display and I agree on many different things that you discussed regarding the screen I do love it but it can at times be very cumbersome. And, yes the fingerprints they drive me INSANE!
Hitting that 2008 Windows Media Player aesthetic 😂
That software is atrociously bad; like going from an iPhone with his Model S to a blackberry.
@@willitbreak5825 as much as I hate Elon, I've never seen a car that can match Tesla's software. That's why we went for a Model 3 and our next car will likely be a Tesla too. I had the privilege to try out tons of EVs using Onto (British EV subscription service) and most of them are painfully bad. I now have a Fiat 500e from them, and it's quite decent in that regard. The EQS software is pure insanity, it would take weeks just to get used to the Nokia-ass menu layouts.
Oh, funny thing about the Audi app, if you try to lock/unlock the doors through it for example, the typical delay is about 1 minute 🤣
@@theyruinedyoutubeagain I’ve watched videos comparing their supercharger network and other charging options and it’s a similar situation too. Electrify America for example has lots of chargers, but their uptime and reliability is very questionable.
Also regarding Elon, the product is ultimately what matters. Been noticing much of the media hating on Musk, and while much of it is self inflicted, there’s also a ton of misinformation on him. For example, SpaceX never threatened to turn off Starlink in Ukraine, whereas the media made it seem like that pentagon email re: funding was like blackmail. Musk is also seen as a Russian asset when his businesses are direct competitors with Russia which is contradictory.
Curious what things he’s done that you dislike. Regardless, have a happy new year!
I directly got the WindowsXP vibes
That brake pedal is going to cause people to panic. I can’t believe they thought that was a good idea.
I have the same Thing in my Golf GTI. Actually, all of the VW Group brands does that, and there isn’t any problem with that, so it’s a polemic for nothing.
@@mr.phantic6185 you can’t really say how every person is going to react to it
@@mr.phantic6185 Safety hazard; for many people hitting the brake pedal is a reflex when they see a deer or car coming up in front of them. If you move the pedal, the reflex becomes confused and less effective. While you're experienced with it in your personal car, there's no telling how someone renting the car out or driving it for the first time is going to react. I, personally, would pull over immediately if I felt my pedals moving without my input because it would catch me off guard.
It will straight up cause them to crash, not just panic. Those are lawsuits in the making
People could panic if they start to push brake pedal and at the start of pushing there would be no reaction (because pedal is already virtually (but not physically) pushed by regeneration). And after pushing the pedal more deeply a reaction would kick-in.
Now (when pedal is moving) you get immediate effect if you start to push it deeper (than was already pushed by regeneration).
With regards to changing settings why not use the MBUX voice commands using "Hey Mercedes"? Worsk very well and flawlessly... Thanks for the video...
I think the UI is actually really good. Got it on my EQE. You are just not used to such advanced EV, will get better with time. Agree on the brakes.
How connected is the voice command to the console controls, since others comment on how cumbersome it can be to search and adjust functions?
Man, I love that you started this channel! I've really enjoyed the content. Now, I don't have Mercedes money, but I definitely don't have find-the-brake-pedal money. I'm not sure why all of these EVs still have the front end that is designed to force air into a combustion engine. Wouldn't aero improve range?
They still have to be flat to some point because of pedestrian safety- if it's too sharply angled it won't meet pedestrian safety- standards and won't be allowed to be sold in a lot of places
Just a heads up these cars have the lowest drag coefficient of any vehicle on the road… it’s called the one bow design. I love his reviews but clearly has not been educated on how these work. I sell these for a living and can tell he has never had a proper training.
Loving this review keep it up
Oh boy, when you were driving, that reflection on the right side of the "60 inch screen" dash would drive me fooking nuts.
I've seen the phone tray 'don't forget device' feature in a few cars, such as the BMW X6 (~2019) so it's not entirely a new feature, but it's nice
I have a 2019 Audi A6, it has the wireless dock for Apple Car play and will actually talk to you through the speakers and tell you “your phone is still in the vehicle”. It also has a gigantic glass screen (multiple displays) in it, which I actually love. Great stuff as always, thanks MKB.
How's the reliability?
@@tritmo Asking the real question here. 😅
@@zehreelamachar6720 lmao I'm for real though cause I'm considering getting one in the coming year
Yeah, VAG cars have this feature for more than 10 years. It shows this message if a mobile device is connected via bluetooth. Its a pretty simple but very helpful feature.
@@tritmo it's only 3 years old. Ask people with 8-15yo cars
The braking system tech is from their Formula 1 EV engine braking/machinal braking system to recharge the batteries. The brake pedal moved in a closer position during the bits of the race when the driver is recharging the batteries while the engine is under load. Lewis Hamilton explained the process in on of the MB F1 channel vlogs
Seems like a pretty bad design decision
People driving this aren’t Lewis Hamilton though, they should have just used the dumbed down version
@@garrylong2993 I agree, they should not have this feature on a normal road car without away to turn it off.
@@jessestallworth5284 you can turn it off
@@eventusvantos8586 can you turn it off and keep regenerative braking on?
hoping to see more affordable options do the whole front dashboard screen idea. Very futuristic!
Love the red shoes. They look great! I won't be in the market for a car at this expense, but learning about it was intriguing. I am planning on the Chevy Equinox 2LT EV.
Appreciate your honest critiques. So many auto reviews feel more like a advertisement.
It’s so bad that I gotta read the description to see if it’s sponsored:
This channel is EXACTLY for me. I love the development of electric vehicles.
hate them so much..
@@vladraduandrei5227 They hate you just as equally sir
you might like "fully charged show" too 😉
@Jay Talents nah not just the same. But gas vehicles have worn their welcome. EV's are a breath of fresh air.
This channel is EXACTLY for me. I DON'T love the development of electric vehicles.
When I see these AMGs when I'm walking in the street or on the bus, I just can't help but but look. I need to drive one of these someday.
11:52 or just tap on the car icon and it takes you straight to settings, it’s right next to the start stop button.
We own the EQS580 SUV and you are spot-on with your review, enjoy your well conceived reviews :)
you own it because you are not part of the target demographic?
That moving brake pedal is crazy!
As far as it letting you know that your phone is in the car, Audi has done that for a while as well. It does it by voice when you open the car.
"Your mobile phone is still in the vehicle"
Same with BMW
its been there in Hyundai cars which cost less than 20k
same in my 2017 audi. He should really test drive all popular cars before making any review. Bc the main point to watch a review for many is to decide which car to buy.
Most EU VW family cars have had this feature for a while now, not really sure how it’s in America though.
@@boian-inavov this feature has been around for a while, however he's only tested a range of electric vehicles. I guess that's why he hasn't really seen it in other cars yet
The brake chnaging position in different mode of driving is a major problem. Thanks for pointing that out.
I don't mind digging through menus for stuff I don't change (how the exterior sounds). I wonder how configurable it is once you've set it up for your fingerprint. Can your spouse have a different setup with her fingerprint?
I think that I'd be able to work out the brakes thing; not a deal breaker 😉 for me. As an engineer that designs a lot of mechanical and software interfaces, the buttons that can get accidentally pressed and the clunky Android interface drives me nuts. I'm sure that they knew the problem but got too far into the implementation to reasonably rework it in this revision. Here's hoping for MB listening to the reviews and acting on them.
The brake pedal moving has been a thing on older benzes when they first launched their radar guided cruise control in the early 2000s. The first time you drive it feels scary but i got used to it quickly and i actually kinda prefer it
Are you talking about the Android Auto interface being clunky or the car's interface?
@@XsuperpunchX Does the gas pedal move when cruise control is on?
@@orderlyhippo1569 I've had '96 Pontiac transport minivan. Yes, it's gas pedal moved corresponding to speed set on cruise control. Really weird, especially if slowing down with cruise and pedal suddenly pushing into you
That explains why the EQB 300 in India feels weird when braking. The pedal has no physical movement, but when applying brakes, the brake pedal feels disconnected when recuperation modes are turned on. Thank you for the clarification.
I drove a eqs400 as rental a few weeks ago in Germany and I found the middle console buttons annoying as well, and generally, I had a hard time getting used to where the gears were.
How about a budget review of a Volvo ex30?
Would love to see your take on the XC40 Recharge next!
MKBHD: Baby Shark isn't for me
Toddlers watching a Mercedes car review for some reason: 👀
Hey, some of us esteemed toddlers like to have varied interests!
Since more regeneration brakes the car more it adjusts the brakepedal accordingly. That way, how quickly the car slows down with say a half way pushed pedal is consistent with different levels of regeneration. It does make sense in a way. I dont think I would like it either though. But maybe its just a thing that is weird because its unusual and you just have to get used to it, sort of like teslas steering wheel.
Well explained,it makes a lot of sense and its a lot of thinking behind that 👍
Doesn't make sense. The brake pedal is not connected to the motors. I would assume it's actually just braking, and there is no regen on this car. The pedal only moves if the brakes are being used, at least if it's hydraulic.
One would expect the necessary brake pressure to change if you changed the regen level.
Pretty sure Mercedes is just scamming people. This car should be sold for no more than $80k.
In my manual transmission car, i have stronger engine braking at high engine speed (similar to regen), if I downshift and the engine is at 6000 RPM, it will have stronger engine braking than at 3000 RPM. If the brake pedal wiggled around based on the strength of engine braking, that would be extremely dangerous.
I'm like 95% sure the Mercedes is not regen braking. There is only one way the brake pedal moves, and that's by activating the brakes. I'm sure we will eventually hear the brakes squealing on older cars when they let off, expecting regen.
On drift cars we setup extra brake calipers so the pedal stays for maximum pedal feel. This is the worst design to have a pedal moving.
See this irks me a lot drives me crazy infact.
Since I haven't driven an EV I didn't understand why Mercedes where doing this, so when every review complained about it I assumed this was just outrageous but after learning why it is done this why this makes sense.
What drives me crazy though is how everyone just accepts the Tesla yoke as "ah you will get used to it" but they think this break implementation is the stupidest thing ever invented. It's many things Tesla does where a lot of reviewers don't criticise to the extent other cars get criticised and this is why we are losing climate control nobs 😂.
I like the front KINDA, its super bubbly looking, like literally it looks like a bubble and I'm a personal fan of a more rigid and sharp design, it looks more sleek and stylish, also it looks super small, not if it's just the video but it just looks like a hatchback rather then an SUV
Is the camera lenses clean I didn’t enjoy the flatness
These episodes are really nice to watch. Keep them coming
4:08 To open the trunk, just shortly hold your foot under the car. Then the trunk opens by itself. Without an app, without pressing the key, without a voice command. Pretty smart when you approach the car with full bags and can open the trunk that way.
My moms ford explorer can do that
Ain't it gon be susceptible to theft?
Please make a video about the Lotus Eletre. A very interesting hyper SUV full of techs and features!!!
that smart brake sounds cool to me lol
it’s nice to feel that it’s braking
The idea of having a duck on the center console is quite innovative. You'd have a companion to talk to, stroke its feathers and maybe the duck could warn you if you start falling asleep while driving. I like it!
Quack!
Front hood that cannot be opened is anti-right-to-repair and subscription service for full performance is anti-consumer ownership. Was looking to replace my GLC, but these are deal breakers.
Marques review was okay, but I am disappointed that he did not mention these two issues.
Seconded. Right to repair and consumer ownership are both essential in a truly "environmentally friendly" car. The concept of a luxury car isn't quite environmentally friendly, but to get into that market makes sense as manufacturers..... but this isn't it. Make things as workable as possible to avoid financial and material waste as much as possible.
No its not and no its not
13:50 Strange. I found it to be extremely well made, especially with navigation on and the "self steering" enabled, the EQC practiaclly drives itself in nearly all situations.
The "don't forget your charger screen" is on 2020 Hyundai palisade vehicles. of course the ones with the wireless charger built in, also once the car senses bad driving from operator , gives you a coffee symbol and tells you to "consider taking a break" , reminds of you ice conditions , etc... I think hyundai has done a great job with vehicles.
Hyundai / Kia is killing it. What is Toyota / Honda doing? Sigh
I have had Mercedes cars for a while now, 2 GLS, 1 GLE and 1 S 560. I am expecting my EQS SUV 580 next month. I tried the EQS but was very put off by the brakes on that car. EQS SUV has much better brakes. While I test drove it, I did not notice the brake pedal moving at all, which is strange because one of my main focus during the test drive was brakes. To me it means that I will possibly not be bothered by it much. The software piece I agree is a little too touch heavy, and I hope Mercedes cleans it up. The driving experience of the car though is awesome, and the technology and comfort are better than any other electric vehicle I have tested, and that's saying something because I do agonizing research over the car I plan to buy. For me, this seemed to fit like a glove. The range numbers worry me a little though. Mercedes claims 340 miles, which was a big selling point for me, and you memtioned 260-280. That's a huge difference, and I love to drive my cars...bummer
Love all your content and you have helped me make many tech decisions correctly In the past. So THANK YOU!
We took delivery of our eqs suv this week and I have not noticed the brake pedal as an issue even on one pedal driving.
I miss our Tesla for how intuitive things were, but the eqs suv is a better car. Once we’re navigating and on our way it is better.
But if they could just be a little better at software the eqs could be a grand slam.
@@randypitcherii congratulations! Can't wait for mine! It's got all the bells and whistles they had to offer and i am looking forward to it. Currently stuck in shipping.
Nice Video!
I feel that the sound features just appeared and got too less attention, since I think it is one of the most interesting features that happened in the car industry in the last 10 years.
The fact you can change what your car sounds in the inside while you are accelerating and braking has to be insanely fun.
Also saw a video of an AMG EV which makes sounds that sound like a transformer on the outside when you lock or unlock it.
What a time to be alive, :D would love to play with those feature in person.
But yes, the moving brake pedal is weird. Would be a no go for me when I would buy a car.
Could you do a follow up video with regards to charging?
Thx, hanny new year. Would it be possible to do more affordable cars? :) like Kia Niro price range?
I can see the utility in having the brake pedal move. Like in regen mode u actually have to calibrate to how strong the regen is and sometimes it’s jolty and irritating. Having a feedback with the amount of braking power available taking regen into consideration is actually pretty neat, especially in chauffeur driven scenarios. The only contention should be the ability to switch it on and off in the settings. Considering the response to this, Mercedes will push that in an ota really soon.
For sure, there will be no OTA for this
Mercedes and over the air updates? If the survive the next five years maybe then ......
The peddle moving is really important and there is no way they are going to change it.
Seems like people just don’t understand why they did this.
@@nilsfrederking62 what are you on about
@@nilsfrederking62Mercedes survive? Hahaha
the content on both of your channels is dope, appreciate it sir! was a little bid surprised that you never saw a “phone on charger” notification in any other car you reviewed. it’s not that innovative anymore, even my 2017 BMW does that. to handle the hyperscreen chaos, you use the profile to save all of your preferred settings and then create favorites for your most often used functions. you can access them then directly from the homescreen.
"Just because you don't like something it doesn't mean it's bad": MKBHD being wiser than 90% of the online population.
He's sponsored by Tesla!
@@colors6692 is that why he criticized the shit out of his Model S Plaid?
@@colors6692 How much do you think Tesla pays him? Is sponsoring TH-camrs a necessary marketing strategy for an automotive company?
@@colors6692 that is not how it works, tesla might have sponsored a video (which im pretty sure they didnt), but they cant sponsor an entire channel or person
@@colors6692 proof?
I’ve been loving the channel so far, great work! You should review the new IONIQ 6 from Hyundai if you got the opportunity!
I saw this a couple of months ago. Why it does not have a front trunk was beyond my understanding...considering its an EV..it got me curious what is under there. The dealership guy told me it had a HEPA filter and HVAC system that fills up that extra space!
Great video. Can you do some videos that really go in-depth on the infotainment tech only? For example, while the MBUX may not be for you, an in-depth of the Zero Layer aspect of MBUX is something that I rarely see in reviews and am very interested in. There is a vision that is being lost to many reviewers I feel as most don’t spend enough time with the car for it to learn your habits and thus customize the screen automatically for you as it was built to do. At the end of the day, just like a PC or Mac, most people use very little of the true capabilities of the machine because of their routines and habits. The intelligent learning in MBUX is envisioned to do that for you without you needing a software engineering degree to set up your car. Honourable mention should also go to the gesture controls in the car, that would be an interesting in-depth tech video.
Hi! Ex-Mercedes designer here who worked on the Zero Layer tiles and the settings. You're right, the idea is that MBUX learns your behavior and habits over time and shows tiles at the bottom that are relevant to you in the moment depending on where you go, what you do, who is in the car (that's why you have profiles). I assume (not sure if true?) Marques uses Android Auto most of the time instead of MBUX itself (I understand why… HERE Maps suck imo), and because he didn't have a personalized profile I assume he missed out on the intelligence behind the system. It's actually pretty smart when it gets the opportunity to learn more about you. After some time, you don't necessarily have to enter a certain app again as what you're trying to do will show up as a Zero Layer tile at the bottom proactively. The problem is just that Android Auto and CarPlay are completely autonomous systems and MBUX can not learn about a user's behavior when they only stick to those solutions.
I know that the settings UI is not optimal, but that's just caused by a HUGE amount of features (which Marques mentioned in his vid) which all often need some sort of setting. Believe me, this is already a much nicer version of settings than what it used to be! :D
@@sam0711er Wow, dynamically adjusting tiles sounds horrible in a car. Why not display a separate bar and let the user choose favourites? No, it must be AI-Blockchain-Buzzword-driven.
@@larsb8665 Without going into too much detail, Zero Layer showed less necessary interactions with the touchscreen with users, and together with the voice assistant basically eliminates a lot of taps on the screen -> Less distraction. Yes, Marketers loves buzzwords, but Designers like practical solutions. Any intelligence on screen also converts into intelligence with the voice assistant. I'm curious: Have you had the chance to try the system for some time and had a bad experience?
@@larsb8665 Also, there is a backup solution like you described if you don't like Zero Layer, where you can go back to a bar and choose the order of the menu items. Just press and hold on the home button.
Nice vid, thanks. I am sure someone might have mentioned it, but just in case: My Kona EV also realizes that when the driver is leaving the car and his/her smart phone ist still on the charging pad - and then chimes and gives a text message. Again: Marques should test-drive the Kona - for an early EV (Hyundae just annouced its 3rd version if you count the facelift from last year) and as a car which was designed for different drive-trains, it does a lot of things right :) Also, the absence of the pedal driving is a no-no - we also drive a Smart EV (one from the time when Smart was a Mercedes brand) and it also got that non-optional adaptive regenerative braking. Don‘t like it, too. :)
The ioniq5 also notifies you, that a phone is on the charger when leaving.
Yeah I was surprised to hear that. Most modern cars have the chime to stop you leaving your key and/or phone.
Excellent video, thanks.
Small tip : don't park the car with the back facing the sun, because the whole video will be blur :p
The ‘remember to get your phone’ I had it in my vw t-cross from 2019. Sadly, I don’t in my model y…
Coming in right off the bat saying things so many people don't want to. So many people, including tech reviewers, jump to call things "bad" when in reality, they just aren't the target audience.
When are YOU getting your EQS. Seemingly you are part of the target audience.
@@vickykennel7414 no its not
The “front” not opening and the moving brakes are a big no for me.
Also people often underrate the power of intuitiveness
That front not opening and having an access panel for fluids reminds me of the Audi A2.
Really great review. I like the piece about the braking. This would personally concern me too, for the exact same reason. When braking, you can't be second-guessing yourself. I am not a big fan of the exterior styling of this car. It doesn't look like a 130k car. The fact that theres no frunk is annoying. Interior does look pretty nice tho! Why are car manufacturers moving away from quick access buttons!?? These are useful for drivers.
I understand that vehicles are getting more expensive, that this is a Mercedes, and that EV's also carry a price premium. But when I heard the $130k price tag, I was pretty shocked. Usually without even knowing the model, you can tell if something is a $100k+ Mercedes/BMW/Audi by how it looks. This thing looks like a mass market model Mercedes (from the exterior and a lot of the interior) with a max sticker of about $80k with every feature.
Totally disagree. This looks and feels like 130k car. It’s literally higher quality than the Tesla Model S Plaid in almost every way and that’s a 120k car with creaky bits.
@@g33xzi11a jack, you are comparing mercedes to tesla while the other person is comparing mercedes to mercedes, you are doing the wrong comparison
@Jack Alope that’s G class territory. Totally disagree with the comparison you made.
@@MaxMax-vf3xk oh. In that case, what EV smart sedan does Mercedes have at that price point with a comparable feature set that we can compare it to?
Yah the outside looks like an boring soccer van. Maybe those who afford this want to be low key
The new VW Golf does the same thing with the brake pedal when using the adaptive cruise. The first time I used it I went to hover my foot over the pedal as a just-in-case and once I felt the pedal move away from me I panicked and ended up slamming on the brakes. One of the most in-nerving experiences I’ve had in a car and something I don’t think I could ever get used to.
Usually my right foot is on the acceleration pedal. In the video the pedal did not move half an inch and you want to go hunting? LOL.
With adaptive cruise, it makes sense because the vehicle needs to slow down to match traffic. The pedal moving under regen in manual driving is unacceptable.
@@NoBaconForYou I’ve driven a few cars with adaptive cruise and non of them apart from the good had the pedal move. It’s honestly unnecessary and removes all muscle memory
I watched mkbhd channel for more than 10 years, and now i found out he reviews car! love it
Are you going to review the BMW iX in the near future? Would be pretty interesting especially in comparison to this EQS SUV :)