Axial SCX10iii vs Redcat Gen8
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I think they were fairly equal. considering the price difference, you could do several mods to the Gen8 to make it superior.. There are situations where a shorter wheel base is good and other times a longer wheel base is better.. For $269 it is hard not to consider the Gen8, put a flat belly pan on, take out the inner fenders, tire it up, put a 1040's Willeys pickup body (JConcepts Creep) on with better approach and departure clearances (almost 90 degrees), maybe an overdrive, then see the results (and you will still have money left over, to put a case of beer in the Willeys pickup body)..
Needed a spare tire on jeep to add weight to the rear would have evened it out better also.
I am actually glad you did this comparison. I felt that the Gen 8 was written off for a good while. It has its pros and cons, but it's a great contender nonetheless for its price. I on the other hand have two highly modified Gen 8 Axe's. But about your comparison. I like both to be honest. The short wheel base of the SCX10III really comes in handy with making some extra rocky areas seem effortless. The long wheelbase of the Gen 8 does soak up the rocks, but at times it will hang up on an up coming large rock because it's longer wheelbase didnt quite clear the previous one yet. Then again, the longer wheelbase sometimes helps the Gen 8 grab rocks around corners to pull itself around more easily. But lets be honest, engage that SCX10III dig and getting around those corners can actually be a cake walk. I love both of them. The Axial is one that I dont have yet. I just talked my brother into one and he now has the new SCX10III. Him finding all the parts thst he actually wants to use to build it is another issue altogether. Love the video. Nice to see Redcat crawling against the others again.
I'm a Redcat guy, but I feel it was pretty equal with a slight edge to the Axial.The Axial has more features factory, but cost more than the original Gen 8. I feel the Gen 8 Axe would be a better comparison.
Yeah but I’ve sold my Gen8 Axe.
Ehh I’m not sure about axial quality but I’ve had the red at gen 8 and sent it back, broke the rear portal axle 2 times, now mind u I had a Holmes hobbies 21 t trail master but besides that and a different radio it was stock
@@nathencosgrove877 From what I've heard they will send out the newer heavy duty parts as replacements when things like that happen. The RTR trucks don't ship with the upgrades. The Axe should have them out of the box, but I'm not sure if it has all available heavy duty parts.
@@ExocagedRC Why'd you sell your Axe if you dont mind me asking? Thanks
@@ExocagedRC I 'm curious about why you sold it?
Nice to see a fresh video with the Gen 8. I agree the body is huge !!
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Whole day goes by, feeling like I forgot something... It was your daily(ish) vid! 😂 My heart goes out to the Gen8, my curiosity sends me towards the 10.3. Thanks for keeping us entertained! 💯🤓👍👍
I've got a "tastefully " modded TRX4 Sport and trail crawl with a fella with a Gen8, and aside from his stock tires, there isn't much he can't make. Even the radio feels nice.
I picked up the 10.3 for my first rig. I got the kit and had a blast putting it together, changing out plastic for aluminum parts where they count. I've had a lot of fun with it since January when I got it but now I'm looking to build something a little more scale. The gen 8 V2 chassis is a fantastic price and for some quality parts. I'm just. It sure what kind of upgraded parts are for it. I want to do leafs in the back on am XJ hardbody so trying to find a suitable chassis for it. Might end up doing a custom, but I have been looking at the gen8 V2 and I do like it quite a bit
The gen8 is good but if you want leaves and scale like that, look into the RC4wd Trailfinder 2.
Seemed very equal. The gen8 suprises me constantly how well it can do. Imo it won. Its cheap, with a huge body. Still seemed to do great
That is some fine crawling terrain!
I like them both! The tires on ghe Redcat are terrible. And smaller than the Axial. Id like to see you put the same size and brand of tires on both of them. But, all things considered, I think it was pretty equal! Great video! Cant wait for the next one!
Hi love your videos
Please do a trx4 vs scx10 iii comparison
Keep up the good work😊👍👍
Axial because it looked smoother to me on the rocks and it is more removable but respect to the Redcat because it is so big and can still keep up
My buddy just got the gen 8 and I just got an SCX10.2. I have duratrax deep woods on mine, he’s got the stock gen 8 tires. We swapped and the tables turned. The gen 8 tires are awful. That’s an extremely capable truck
I own axials and redcats and love them both. I personally think the axial did everything just a little bit smoother in that run though. I think it's more do to the body size though.
Nice rock crawler course, try adding some tree branches in your concrete course. I made a similar concrete rock crawler course but with some 12-15 inch tree cuttings off of my arbor vitae trees. It definitely makes a big difference and looks the part, for scale courses. Good luck 👍
Jesse Mceachern branch bridges are the best because they are so variable, in space & time!
😁👍 My gen8 has been great for me It's a nice rig. I like them both! I hear ya on the comments I never get them notifications it makes things crazy!
I’ll say one thing. My first crawler was a Redcat Gen7. It was love at first drive. Then about 3 months later I got my gen8. Again love at first drive. I recently bought my first axial Scx10 II kit. Let me tell you how much I love axial now and Redcat. So as a person who loves both companies sooo much. After seeing this video yea Redcat bigger and more stocky bigger wheel base. But they perform equally. Axial will be able to do a side ways climb up a hill wear as the Redcat it to top heavy that’s the only thing I’ve noticed a difference in. Great video Exo loved this comparison and the new Scx10 III. The crawler Park is looking great If I’m ever down there I would love to crawl with you! Keep up the great work my dude!! ❤️❤️
I own the redcat 8 and love it it was my first trail truck. I do have the SCX10.3 on back order as new rig.
I'm thinking of buying the Gen 8 pack as my first build.
Can't go wrong! I love both of my Gen8s! 👍👍
They are GOOD! If you can find upgrade Portal Gears.... GET THEM! You'll have a nice, dependable Rig.
I run 3s all day an dont break shit. Just dont have the turm rate past 75% when on 3s
@@kohsman313 I run my og %100 on 3s, but not until I broke the cvd's in, Gotta put some miles and friction on them and then use them as intended! lol
In my opinion.. the true winner is the owner, both trucks are awesome and the owner gets to have fun. I have both well all 6 , gen7,gen8,gen8axe..and scx10.1, scx10.2,and scx10.3 i am building now, and i love them each for the differences they all have.
Almost pulled the trigger on a Gen8 pack kit for my first crawler. But the lack of longterm reviews on the tube made me think twice. Thanks for the comparo.
Still going to wait until local hobby shops open, and wait for scx10.3 kit to hit the market here before choosing a rig.
Yo brother, i love your Videos and Rocks
Both looked great but I'm leaning more towards the Axial for the win. It just seemed a little more composed.
Great Video!!!
I do not have either, but I would say it looked pretty even to me overall. Neither was the clear cut winner. O do like them both and enjoy having both in my stable of rigs!!!
Nice comparison bro! 💪🏼😉
Looks pretty even to me. Each had it’s strengths and weaknesses. Both are great trucks.
So glad you did this I was asking this question in my head so many times how are they side by side and what are there abilitys. I have a base model gen 8 and an axe edition. Love seeing the big body go over the rocks. The scx10 3 on the other hand was impressive I liked how it sorta floated over the rocks and was swift through the tight walls. And the articulation was beautiful and flowy it is tough like you said but looking at a consumer stand point mom and pops standing there with there wallet. Id give my money to redcat a truly proven and stable chassis. they got the old school body and you get everything you need up to a light kit and still have money to spare for a battery. My dad owned a 78 scout 2 aswell so redcat takes the cake for me. I am an axial fan at heart tho the wraith got me into crawlers and I have an smt10 gravedigger. So i am not being biased. I was gonna buy the scx103 but the price litteraly scared me away and I knew that the gen 8 was a proven crawler cause I had an axe edition prior. But no less the scx10 put up a great fight and show. Gen is is more affordable especially if you have kids and you know they want something of the sort.
I liked the gen8 turning on the rocks with its long wheel base.got hungup some with that huge body.scx10.3 seems really capable out of the box.seems to have good clearance.turning could use some with.nothing a lil dig cant help.awesome video
I feel like the Jeep got it. First, it was more nimble. It made light work of going through the course. Second, the Jeep suspension seemed to articulate smoother. Which I think helps make it more nimble through a course like that. Lastly, I appreciated how easy it was to back out of that hole (from driver error) it found its self in. I would’ve liked to see the red cat so the same thing to see how it would’ve gotten out?
You should start adding the poll option for these videos. I have both but im still waiting for my electronics to show up for my 10iii. It was close but i give it to the axial. The redcat however had the advantage on the descents with the longer wheelbase and the axial seems like it maybe has a bit too much forward bias when going down slopes
Are you running the stock shock fluid in the 10iii?
yeah, the 10.3 is very nose heavy as compared to the gen8 I'll look into the poll things
Great stuff, love your videos, "Take a look".
This is the comparison I wanted.
I just got the gen8 after watching videos like this. I'm loving the ability to change the wheelbase and use smaller more scale bodies as well. Adding some mods but so far glad I stuck with redcat
Lets see some run vids 👍🏻💯
Very close but I would have to say Redcat. Its a lot cheaper and if you build one with a builders kit and a shorter body they work fantastic. When the scxiii comes out with a builders kit you should do a build on each brand and see which works best. That would be sweet. I know its stock to stock but the scout body is huge lol. Great vid guy! 👍👍😎😎✌✌
I'm impressed with both and both performed well. Tie
Man 2 of my favorite brands an I got to give it to redcat racing today. Good luck next time scx3...
I would say the redcat, because there's a lot more bang for your buck. It's only 300 and the axial is like 500
Gracias por el vídeo. Saludos desde crawler rc
I got a capra a scx10.3 and a gen 8 and a gen 8 axe. Also an enduro but as far as these two trucks go I think the gen 8 is better it’s far more stable and balanced. The 10.3 just looks so good tho.
I really like the red cat I have three of them the gen 7 8 and the axe and there really good trucks for the price
Joe I think those two trucks are very capable and very similar in perfomance. As always on any o these rings, some handle certain situations better than others . Thanks for a good comparison video.
Wow the Redcat when it made that turn was cool 👍👊
What values did you use on the 1080 esc when setting it up with the programmer please?
I like the axial s10 3 the dig is nice I have the red cat gen 7 sport stock but I would love to up grade the axial s10 .
(separate question if you don't mind ) - Whats your opinion on running an overdrive gear up front & an underdrive gear on the rear of the gen 8? I never thought about doing both ends I only have the front overdraft installed... I seen a few guys on a forum saying there doing both? Think its worth it, could it hurt anything in a negative way ? Thanks
Will help in turns, on straights it will bind more and the motor will work harder this getting hotter than it should.
@@ExocagedRC Kinda what I was thinking, I think I'll stick with just the front overdrive. Thanks for help.. m
I just bought the gen 8 builders kit. To bad it's already assembled. I think they were both pretty even. I couldn't believe that gen 8 made the turn on to the ledge better than the 10.3 did.
Gen 8 took it in for the win. Why I didn't give it to the AXIAL? Well after careful thought I realized how much newer, time invested, and what the cost difference is. If the AXIAL couldn't walk away from the GEN8 then it lost. Older frame, less cost and rtr? How could you not choose the GEN8 much less the AXE?
I have both and I feel they both are great. Just need new tires on both. I use proline super swampers on both.
Good choice! I like the Swampers
Nice comparison to see them both running. To be honest, I am an Axial fan. Having owned both the Gen8 and the SC10-ii, I have loved every bit of my Axial vs the RedCat. In this comparison video though, I would call it a draw. I love the dig option in the Axial to get out of those tight turns while the shorter wheelbase definitely gives it the edge over the Gen8. And only judging from my past experience, I feel like the Axial will probably hold up under abuse better, hence making it a better value for your dollar. I also always found the Gen8 body hideously large and a major issue as it tends to get hung up on everything. Swap out the body with a smaller one and you have a worthy contender.
I will have to go with the Gen 8. For how cheap it is compared to the 10.3, it held its ground out there. Plus, you would still have money for upgrades to make it more better.👌🏻💵🚙#cheaptricks 🤙🏻
Your second vehicle usually does better because you already drove the line and know what you had to do for the first one to make it
Not really. Each truck reacts different and these two actually had a slightly different wheelbase
First,Great video. Thanks so much.
Second, I’m trying to get into crawling and can’t decide what platform to start with (I’m leaning towards red at), having said that, this video was of no help. Lol. They really are close.
The trx4 is the toughest truck out there.
Axzial is getting a LOT of scrutiny with its SCX10 III... But then, it is the newest Cool Kid.
The Redcat Gen 8 has always been underrated - because it's from REDCAT! 😖
This was a good battle. Thanks for doing this.
Like EVERY Axial product ever made, it NEEDS work and tuning, straightaway. Thicker Shock Oil, firmer rear Springs.....
And those Transmission Gears!!!!! 😲
The Redcat IMO, has the BEST stock Shocks, PERIOD.
Honestly, it's too close for me to tell. At this point, for me, it just comes down to which one I prefer the style of. I like the Axial body better, so I'm going to go with that one 😉
It’s pretty evenly matched. Dig helps the 10.3 but without it Gen 8 looking slightly better. Price difference is huge so a evenly matched stock I rather use the price difference on upgrades for the Gen 8. Both a bit noise(camera) but Gen 8 has that more natural diesel sound which is nice. I would love to see the Axe edition compare with the 10.3 which will be a closer price match. I believe the Axe would definitely take that shootout! Great vid.
I love watching your videos. Awesome course... I’d like to have the opportunity to see it in person. Where are you located? I’m in Pennsylvania
You are a long way from me. I’m in Florida... close to Jacksonville.
Exocaged RC You got it made Brother Jacksonville Florida so nice
Petros Karamichalakos I don’t know man., summers are simply horrible.
I made a mistake to getting a gen7pro when I should have gotten an gen 8. gen7 steering sucks ass glad to see you do the steering difference, I have 2 scx10 ii a dead bolt and the xj jeep
It looked pretty even to me, don’t think I could pick one over the other. Both seemed equally noisy too.
Awesome fun.
I say being that the gen 8 is basically the first crawler built by redcat it wins hands down considering the backing that axial has they should be able to dominate. The axial might have a 2 speed and dig but that redcat held its own! Im proud to have my gen 8 and honestly I tend to go to it more than my axial. It box stock and still all the fun I need but one day she'll have some upgrades!
I think they are equal in certain situations. Yes the scx10iii has a dig and 2speed but for different reasons.
The gen 8 is capable of a lot as well with its smaller tire radius and weight disbursement of the battery in the center vs a battery in the rear.
But it all depends on driver and terrain and what you want to push their limits too.
I'm a trx4 guy and I just got a scx10iii and I cant use the functions because I have 3ch radios. Soooooooo the radios you were using are going in my Amazon cart as we speak.
My dad just got a gen 8 and I’ve been waiting for this comparison to see what one I want
Get a trx4 sport and out crawl them both 👍🏻💯
@@sprather84 Im leaning this way. The Redcat @ $269 though..Ez upgrades to gen8, heavy wheels,new foams, servo, radio(Radio link can control several rigs) and its set up to hold 16 leds. The answer may be eventually get 3.TRX Sport,Gen8, Axial ,Enduro..whoops i said 3 maybe 4!
@@seanmcpherson7962 339 for the sport and only replace the servo and will still out climb the gen 8 axe with brass... my truck blows me away
And i do agree i want them all like a kid at Christmas 🤣😂
I have been watching for a while now and I know there have been some fixes and adjustments done in the redcat from the box stock models. The axial is straight of the the line stock and aside from driver error on the first obstacle did better in almost everything.
I think there both great trucks!🤘😎
I am an axial guy that owns some redcats also, BUT I gotta give the W to redcat for this one! My reasons are that axial made this new rig to compete in the new market, however the redcat held its own big time against the new contender! lol great video! Still want the new 10.3 lol
I’m a Redcat guy myself, but the 10/III Is a very impressive Rig! I’d say the only true advantage between The Gen8, SCX 10/III, or even the TRX4-“Sport”? Is personal preference? Can’t wait to see what Axial will do to compete with higher models like the Gen8 Axe or full TRX4? Thanks for another awesome video! 👍
As a Gen 8 owner I can guarantee the Axial is the better rig by far even without the cheater feature
I think your sticker make the rigs better....💪👌
Good video! 😉👍🏻
Sympa la vidéo 👍
As someone who has axials and a gen8 axe I really like both truck platforms and I find it hard to pick a winner in this comparison, however when you take in the fact that the gen 8 cost less rtr than the kit from axial and is just as good. My vote will have to go to the gen 8
I don't own either one. Although it was really close I would have to give it to the Axial SCX10 III. It appeared that it handles smoother and better control. But I am going to do some checking into the gen 8 because of the price point difference.
I noticed my Gen 8 Scout climbed a lot better when I took the spare tire off the rear. If I'm trail driving I'll put it on because I like how it looks but going to the rocks I take it off...
Where did you get the skid plate on the front ?
I have both. If you're into bang for the buck performance, go Gen 8. IMHO the SCX10 III wasn't designed to be a top dawg rock crawler, but a super scale trail machine. For me, the scale details of the SCX10 III trumps all other factors.
I don't choose one brand over the other I choose what I can buy and upgrade to make the best truck possible. I think the axial wins this one because it looked much smoother over obstacles. Both are great trucks and few upgrades would be needed to improve performance on them. If the redcat had different shocks I think it might of won.
Just found this video. I think it was really close. I like Axial, but that Gen 8 is definitely some competition.
Not sure there always has to be a winner.. You can strip down or build up most of the kits on the market right now to be a killer performer or a really beautiful scale rig, maybe somewhere in-between?...A lots of us have 2 or 3 or more for that very reason...
I don't have either of these 2 trucks but will be getting scx10iii once it arrives in Australia, It's more my jam... and already have a trx4 defender to fill the big body lwb truck spot for me.. It's exciting to think where Redcat will take their next release though.
Cheers mate 👍
I like the Redcat, Mostly because imo it looks way better and more scale. Just my opinion
First and foremost great video. Where is this magical crawling space!?!? My choice would be the Axial purely because I know it will have more available aftermarket wise. The only crawler I have being a Vaterra Ascender K10 so I know how frustrating it can be having a small aftermarket pool per say.
TRX4 Sport! that.. uh only because thats the only one i got :-) also building an unimog onto a MST CFX chassi!
i have an axial 10.2 blazer rtr and cherokee kit and traxxas blazer and a trx4 sport with a bronco body.i am not a fan of a brand as much as i am of the vehicle itself.i love all my crawlers .i think that the 10.3 will get better as its developed with aftermarket stuff.it is a little tippy downhill and uphill the front tends to lose traction.the body needs to lighten up and lower the cg . you can have fun with all the crawlers out there .pick the one that best suits your budget and upgrade as you get extra money. enjoy the sport anyway you can
Too close to call, but the Redcat is sooo much cheaper and its got that sweet sweet Scout II body. Mine has been bullet proof and obviously, I love the body
I feel like they were a pretty fair match. I prefer redcat, but I will give credit where credit is due. They're both pretty great
I think that the Scx10 III did slightly better because it made quick work of the last crawler challenge, but overall they were very equal.
I think axial climbs better plus it has dig and a two speed just put together the 10iii builders kit and was. Amazed at its quality !!!
I watched it twice, they both have differences I think the axial had a better ground clearance then the gen8. I also think the weight of the body and the length on gen 8 made some difference for it the overhang on the gen8 hurt it a little where axial didn't have that. So I would say they were pretty equal.
Really too close to call. The dig probably helps the scx10.3 take the win, however without it the Gen8 performed just as well. What would the cost difference be Joe?
In esoteric 'scale' details the Axial takes it(I also prefer the contemporary Jeep styling to the ultra boxy IH-Scout or early Ford Bronco look). The Redcat, however, wins in MY very important K I S S criteria with its simple, non-problematic single speed, non-DIG transmission. Performance-wise they were equals IMO, but I would enjoy driving the Axial more solely because of its looks.
This just goes to show how good the RedCat is!!! Fortunately I don't have to decide between them.... have both!!!!😁😁😁😜
It seemed like a pretty even affair but each Truck has they're pros and cons , to me the defining attribute is the price, cheaper older Truck does everything the more expensive and newest one does, I'm sticking with Gen 8 for sure , now let's see a Gen 8 Axe vs SCX10.3 video
I just might have to start rock climbing. Just have to find a good starter truck.
I am in the market for a new chassis only kit. Been looking at the scx 10.2 raw builders kit and then gen 8 pack and i be damnes everyone saying 10.2 10.2 10.2 but man the video showed the redcat can hang and out shine in some places the 10.3 so man i thonk the redcat pack is the way to go. Its cheaper and pre-assembled lol. Seeing how i never built a kit that mivht bw my beat choice what do ypu think. Exocaged
Can you link the Rclink firmware update vid pls?
I think think the shorter wheel base and slightly taller tires gives the axial an advantage. But for the size of the body and overhang on the back and slightly shorter tires I think the gen 8 did great and that scout body is worth the trade off. But I have a gen 8 with a gen 7 sport body and 5.4 1.9 boggers and its a trail beast. Check out my videos of it! I also run the reefs sliders.
I have both of these beasts and it's not even a comparison. The dig feature in the Axial alone makes it 10 times the crawler over the Redcat. Now, living in a pretty crappy environment for crawling (very little in terms of places to go and natural formations) most of what I do is climbing 20 foot tall dirt piles in new home construction sites. The Redcat is just too big and bulky for that and even going through multiple sets of aftermarket tires, it doesn't keep up in terms of grip on dirt. Personally, I am an Associated/Element guy myself but if I had to pick between these two machines... The SCX10III wins every time.
I want to upgrade the tires on my gen 8 for cheap. Any recommendations? Do i even need to upgrade?
stock tires do me fine, mine still has stock tires. Whats your terrain?
Proline krawlers.
REDCAT Gen8 has the edge just because it preform with way longer body and without a Dig and much smaller narrower shity stock tires and foams - plus it is cheaper - and i would expect a company like Axial who is leading the game with a 3rd generation and many other crawling rigs to have the upper hand easy - this is Redcats first scale crawler 1st generation and still looked better - my opinion - and i do have a GEN8 - and i did expect the Axial to win hands down