Why New Tires Can Be Dangerous
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2023
- People often buy new tires and immediately drive them as hard as possible. That's not a good idea. Today we spend a lil bit of time talking about why you need to break in your new tires, like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, and just how many miles are needed to get the oil and additives off the top layer of the tire. But what do you want to learn more about? Let me know below!
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Take a bath you stinky tires
What about something like simple green a degreaser I use it to remove paint from plastic models I know its dumb question but I'd still would like to know why it wouldnt work
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You really know nothing it's wax and napha. 5 miles it's gone. How do I know this built them for 30 years.Soap and water will clean them.
@@johnscott2849so you can do a burnout to break them in
I normally just sand them until they're completely smooth, it's a quicker process and it looks cool!
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I re-oil my tires every time I fill up the tank, keeps them lookin new
Don't forget to do burnouts to get rid of those ugly looking treads.
I personally use Elmer's glue instead of brake fluid so that my brakes are always on top with stopping power
I oil my break pads so that they do not rust
@@georgwagner4438 I fill my bell housing with oil, full wet clutch conversion brah
😂😂
I just foam wash them, wipe with a washcloth and then do a burnout. Works everytime.
Just about to say the same thing, even dish soap is enough to get most of it off with a quick wipe down.
I just drive on a dirt road, the dirt gets mixed with the oil and usually when the dirt comes off it takes most of the oil with it
throw some dawn dish soap on them with a green light(roughness) scour pad, youll be golden
Do you rotate after you do a burn out?🤣😂
@@turo669 nah, I only really worry about the rears of a RWD, it's stupid because it does increase the risk of a spinout, but I like the shine on the front. It won't damage or mess with the alignment if your tire techs did it correctly. Have a great day☺️
motorcycle shops will remind you to take it easy every time
I bought a brand new motorcycle and they delivered it to my house n everything, they didn't tell me shit n I came so close to crashing. I wasn't going fast but the ass end slid like all the way out, I saved it but it bucked me up n I landed belly first with the bars at about my belly button, almost went over the bars.
as a tire technician, unless you're doing your own tires at home, the tires you find in a tire shop are usually 3-6+ months old due to international transport times, so anything about oil is likely not there
unless it's a bike tire for some reason. they tend to be a lot more slippery off the shelf i've found.
@@paudan1284 You are right, although I think the car tires probably have similar percentage of oil coating on the shelf, but with bigger contact area and significantly heavier weight causing more traction, they probably have much less noticeable problems with it.
Motorbikes being lightweight and agile react to the slipperiness way more, hence on a motorbike you tend to avoid even road markings especially when driving in wet conditions, while a car usually cares nothing about them.
Also with motorbikes you gotta "break in" also the sides, not just the top, as you steer by leaning the bike side to side. So just driving straight is not enough, you also gotta lean the bike to the side and another at some point.
@@paudan1284 10-15 min of highway cruise and you're good to lean. tested on Pirelli Angel ST made in China
@@paudan1284they are both slippery, buy for cars it's not a big deal unless doing aggressive shit bc 4 tires + weight. Bike tires are wrapped more in shipping bc softer rubber and a little grip loss is very noticable
@@mohdsyafiqbinnazmi9323 i just scrub em in for a bit and then go to the highway seems to work for me 🤷♂️
Just do a fat burnout, then rotate your tires and do it again 😂
Why would you need to rotate them if they're spinning😅
@@hebeliusswitch the rear ones (that the burnout is being done with) with the front tires.
The wheels are spinning to fast for me to change them during the burn out. Any advice?
@@Sssssnake stop that rn 😂
@@Sssssnake get good
The oils are to also piss off package handlers at postal warehouses because it always slips out of out of our gloves
I work at ups it’s not really a problem moving the tires it’s after when trying to move other packages since now the oils are on your hands or gloves, the packages almost just slip out your hands
Facts, when I got some pilot sports I was slipping and sliding so much in the first drive that I thought I made a horrible mistake. Now they are easily the best tire I've driven on
That’s why I only run dry rotted tires 🤷🏽♂️
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@@wjspade 😂 no mames
Lmfao 🤣 🤣 🤣 glad I'm not the only one
The junkyard sells those for cheap so they are great for a cheap burnout
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This is why I drive on tires that are 15 years old, none of them new tire problems
Those bald eagle tires are hard as a rock and if they are wet you can use them as mirrors.
That stuff comes off almost the instant you start driving.
THANK YOU. Finally someone speaking some sense.
I worked on a Michelin factory for 10 years in the curing department, and not once were the treads in the molds lubricated. The side wall had oil on them to prevent rust, but that is cleaned out before any tire is cured.
That squares with what I thought. I was told the coating was actually to prevent outgassing thereby increasing the shelf-life.
I work at a tire shop and I put new tires on a BMW m5 and the guy knew about the release mold they use and said "watch this" and proceeded to do a rolling burnout through 2nd gear. Thats one way to get rid of it
How do you get an m5 😵💫
You add a M3 and an M2.
@@brendanngin9939 I think it might have been an M3 it was a while ago when I happened
@@brendanngin9939 In fives have been out since 84 what do you mean
@@brendanngin9939 You must be American. there are other cars beside Ford
I did a 100 yard burnout in my wife's minivan out of the tire store parking lot last fall. They got grippier after a few days.
Look at this guy, doing burnouts in mini vans
@@duderitoz6953 gotta practice getting away from the scene
100 yards is quite a few. You driving a 1000hp odyssey???
@@realjoshuaWA 2012 Kia Sedona. I just measured it via Google maps. About 270 ft. It was a one wheel peel, plus it was seal coated asphalt, so it spins easy once going. The mold release compound was just so tempting I had to.
It's not just ON, it's IN the tyre. The temps are high and the release agents seep into the tyre itself.
It's common knowledge not to go nuts for the first 20-100 miles or whatever.
Me pulling out the tire shop and doing a fresh burn out to scuff off the new😂😂😂😅😅
As a current tire guy that sells performance & high speed rated tires such as the pilot sport 2 is Michelin & nitto are the only ones that have the coating , regular tires n such have a much lighter coating and most times it’s barely there by time I’m receiving the tire with the many hands that’s touched, rolled or even got rained on & whipped off but still it’s good to do some cruising before bashing
I work in the Michelin factory that produces the pilot sports they use a silicone derivative to keep the molds from rusting with the steam and to make removal of the tires easier. This substance is non toxic and I’ve personally applied it many times it almost looks and feels like coconut oil. Being that the pilot sports tread pattern is relatively simple compared to many others produced no part of the tire generally has a hard time getting out of the mold so it’s only used as a preventative agent for rusting
Uhhhh I too work at michelin in the mold shop and we don't spay a thing in our molds....? Though i can't give any details due to business reasons but this is not true for all michelin ties. Yalls process must be different in yalls plant.
Different plant. Different tires
Yeah its Just for storage
hey what plant you guys at? US9 here. thought we were one of the few to make the pilot sports
Michelins are the hardest tire brand I’ve ever worked with
I just drive around like I’m following a pace car 😅
this came in clutch, really didn’t know it and we’re getting new tires soon, thank you for your time online person.
It's basically Armorall that is used as a release agent. No need to clean it off, since most people will turn around and spray Armorall right back on it!
It's made from silicone
I've never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. I worked in the auto collision repair industry for 15 years and it was oddly common for a car to get into a collision and the owner (especially if it's totalled) would sigh and say "darn, I just bought new tires too, and now this happened".
I got new tires 7-8 years ago. I say they're new anytime it comes up in conversation.
I once ran tires from the 1950’s on my 1941 Plymouth. The rubber was hard as rock, & it felt like I was on icy gravel even on dry roads. Only lasted like 100 miles before they fell apart, but it was an interesting drive! 😂
This is totally true. In the middle of last year I got those exact same tires put on my Mach 1. The first few launches I did were actually Worse that my previous old tires. Fast forward a whole week later and they gripped amazingly well and launching was great
Absolutely lit doing one tyre fires out of the tyre fitting gaffs
(open diff feels with many one wheel peels)
« Try to get one full tank fill up » hold my rx8
Depends on how you drive. Foot to the floor? I guess 4 tanks of gas. Like a grandma? I guess 4 tanks of gas.
God I want one of those.
Nah I get a least 2 miles before I have to fill up again, only took me 25-50 fill up’s before my tires were broke in 😂
The fastest I've drained the tank on one was about an hour, I think
Hold my fully built engine that gets like 250km to a tank
I love new tires. Makes it feel like I've an extra 100hp for a day.
How?
You should try sanding them down, you get to race Paul walker too
After I got the 4s installed on my mustang. Right when I exit the driveway and turn right, my car slip so hard and im so glad I was experience enough to control the car again. Almost gave me a heart attack.
When I got my new AS4s I thought they felt worse than my old AS3+s... This is probably why, because now they feel great.
My PS4's spun up so easily pulling out of the garage, it put me off driving hard on them for a while.
@@allothernamesbutthisI love playing with my ps4 to
First time I bought new tires I slid around a roundabout in my focus. I recovered but almost curbed the sparcos lol
I learned the hard way sliding all over the highway, shit ain't no joke. Super scary when it happens
Years ago there was a tire recall I forget what vehicle but it was a performance vehicle and we were directed by Goodyear to not release the car to the owner until we had taken it around the block a few times because the replacement tires were so factory fresh and they really were very Squirrley.
Gotta get them tires as smooth as my brain for the big day
Great advice. The oils from the mould are gone after several miles or so, but you still need to bed the tyre in before it starts to grip as it's intended. The oils from the mould very slippery, and the car should be driven accordingly so. Bedding in is totally different, this can literally take anywhere between 100 miles and 500 depending on the tyre, the driver and the car. On high performance cars this only usually takes 200 miles, but the difference in performance once bedded in is huge.
What tire manufactures don’t was you to know, the more gentle the first 500 miles the longer the tire will last in the future no matter how hard you beat on it. For a performance tire with not just about release lubricant, the tires come very soft when they are new and harden up with some gentle heat cycles, thinking of it like gently cooking your tires
Ah so maybe that's why my bikes tires just eat themselves within 3000miles 🤣🤣
50km break in after that all in
A baker's dozen donuts at the local home depot parking lot is my preferred method
You can also hit a dirt road, the dirt and dust can help absorb the oils as well
I see nobody talking about the gt gloria ft in the video 😍 such a beautiful car
If you are a racer, your tires are good when brand new and set ready with warmers
I've heard from people that know more than I do that tires don't have any mold release on them. You still wanna break in your tires
I changed my moped tire with a company and I only payed for the tire and not service. But anyways, when we were done they told me I must test it with breaking, doing a burnout a bit and also swirle around because to get to know the tires and get oil off
I can tell a huge difference when I get new mud tires on my truck at how much it slides in the lane if you slightly try to "swerve back and forth"
Burnout
Burnout!!!!!
Finally something useful - make more reels please
Good talking man you’re the best informed one
False release agents are rarely used the reason they're so slick is because they are smooth the road roughs them up and gives them better traction as you use them
That’s why in racing they do the warm up lap 💪🏼
I just give them a very good bath, helps get the storage dirt off as well from being on the racks in warehouse. Never really had a problem then immediately thrashing them
back end of my car slid out for the first time the day after i got my new tires and it was raining, pretty crazy feeling that and having to counter steer for the first time, especially in an understeery fwd car
yup, my Scooter to... in december 2022 i replace my tire with Pirelli Diablo but yup... its so slippery but after i use it with low rpm & wash it every week... now its good the oil is not in the tire anymore
You sound like Linus Car Tips, really good content here!
I’ve got the AGV K1 Dreamtime as well 🤙🏼
I stand with this statement, wrecked my car in the rain on the highway because of new tires. The turn wasn’t even that bad and my tires lost traction sending me into a drift, lost control and swiping the side of my car on a highway sign.
When ordering tires online, I’ve seen disclaimers stating that the “production date will vary by up to TWO YEARS depending on inventory.” That’s a pretty big time window considering a tires life is 5-7 years depending on the climate you live in.
A tire shop guy once told me about this and warned me of it. I said I can break them in in less than 10 seconds. Did a long burnout when leaving lol.
About time someone said this, In the Uk We call it factory shine, and usually it takes about 200 miles to get rid of the shine.
This is important on motorcycles
I took my Yokohama AVS intermediate to a shop where they true the tire. They shave the tire instead of adding weight to it the most precise wheel balancing you'll ever have not only that, but the tire will wear perfect because it is truly round.
I'm wearing headphones, and that jittery glitch noise was terrifying
Can confirm. Pulled out the shop on a super bike with new shoes. Back wheel was drifting across 3 lanes coming out the gate
That explains why the tire shop i go to gives me the burn out hand motions when i leave.
The purpose of that oil is to prevent the tire from dry rotting if it’s still new and not being used basically like air in chip bags to keep the chips fresh until opened
the tire shop i worked at used a spray and scrubber to get the oils and chemicals off
True, I remember I got a full new set and didn’t know about this so I floored it bc I was excited and ended up spinning out
I can say this is true. I have a f250 got new 37s and i was turning on a green light and I hit the gas and started spinning and managed to power slide the truck and it rarely does that
my new tyres on my motorbike i go for a drive down a shingle roadway works a treat
I remember replacing a full set of tires on my MX-5 and it drifted so effortlessly as soon as I left the tire shop. It caught me off guard
Pay tire rack to heat cycle your tires if you run summer performance tires as well
Hit an empty lot and go ham plus they smoke way more when new and you gotta love more smoke
Anything ON the tread is gone after 5-10 miles. But anything in the sipes or deep grooves may take take driving a dirt road or hard rain to get rid of.
(But that stuff's not affecting you, anyway.)
I had gotten new tires of my si (that i drive in the mountains), and it was completely hard to use my vehicle as it was too simplery and some guy thought he was punking on me. After driving to and from work and wherever else i might go, i went back and the tires were gripping famously. Tires do need a break in.
My new rears needed 500 miles. Did 2 side step (attempts) burn outs. Then drove somewhere that was about 270 miles away, then drove back. On the way there they were still pretty slippy. On the way home they gripped up.
i just do a large burnout until i see sparks coming out.. sometimes a lil slippy but it works
I usually just spin the oil/lube off. Smoke up the tyres 1 or 2 times, then they grip just fine. (On a race track of course, or a private road)
Modern tyre manufacturers do not use any form of release agent as it is regarded as a contaminant on the surface. I worked for a large Italian company for 40 years and release agents used to be sprayed on the surface before curing but that stopped about 30 years ago. Breather hairs are no longer a problem either because my company fitted microscopic valves in the breather holes which were effectively closed by the migrating rubber.
So what you're saying is a quick burnout for the race? Cool, cool.
Spray them with brake cleaner, I'm a tire guy, and I was told to do this for the drag tries that come into the shop.
For new tires to last leave them for a week or 2 in the sun , mark one side as you need to flip them over every new day , this will help cure the tire faster , used to work on a underground mine and tires that was brand new never lasted very long as the tire never got hot enough to cure but the tire's that saw sun for a week or more lasted 5 times longer.
I just had a Michelin sport 4s tires installed the other day haha
Simple green cuts down the time it takes to break them in. Cuts the mould release agents ....
I wished I knew this when I was ripping around my brother's new mustang and lost it.
Back years ago this would be true. Modern tires don't have oils but they still don't grip because they need to be broken in. The surface of a new tire is smooth and doesn't grip the road as well as a rough broken in tire
I sand them until smooth, and apply oil to tyres. It's so smooth.
I usually do a 15min ride on the twisty rural road home from the dealer, they pretty much worn in then. Once I can do a wheelie I know I can rag on the tires enough to get me knee down (motorcycle just incase that wasn't apparent)
I just did a couple of quick burnouts to get rid of them 😎
This is a pretty big problem on motorbikes too, you can't really take any corner too hard until at least a couple rides or it'll just slip out from under you
Well, nothing like a good burnout
I definitely be doing burn outs to get that oil off works every time
That mold release is made by “Stoner” “high endurance molde release” I believe it’s “A373” maybe? Can’t remember but it’s a red, black and white can..
You aint neva lied
One good burnout make sure they are holding good then you be ready to go
A good burn out/ drift session will get rid of the oils real quick
motorcycle tires are the same, i used to work on bikes for a living and every shop i worked at would do a short burn out or a ride around the block to get the lubricant off as best as possible with out getting bitched at by the customer for an extra kilometer on the odometer. i prefer the ride around the block because the front tire is your steering and the burn out leaves lubricant on the front.
"One full tank fill up"
Damn. Thats gonna be about 8 hrs
default behavior when having my motorcycle's tyres replaced, drive careful the first five kilometers, and then relax so at 40 Km you take your first corner with your pegs on the tarmac. That's on my goldwing. In summer it's the same, but 20Km.
When I got my first set of new tires on my car I did a 1600km drive back to university and even after that drive my tires still felt like they were slipping a bit with everything turn but definitely not as bad as the first 100km.
Just one good burnout and ur solid
Yeah, the break in period for my tires last 1 day because after 1 day of road racing they are usually toast.
Lucky most time us aussies just skid on way out tire shop im sure the oil gets burnt off by time we grip up 😅