Very good advice Lem. And actually very old school. The same advice I was given back in 1970 when I first began riding motorcycles.you need to spend some time getting to know the tire because every tire handles differently. Thank you lem.
When I bought my bike, it had new tires on it. The dealer decided to send one of the new techs out to test ride it before I did, since it hadn't been run in some time. He brought those pretty new tires on to some smooth new asphalt, and ended up putting the bike down. Luckily, it had crash bars, so it just got a few scratches, and I payed $500 less for the bike.
@@phantomshtter you’d be surprised how well crash bars/ engine guards protect the bike. I dropped mine twice the first day I rode (on dirt) not a single scratch
They'd lose a lot more if you tried to sell brand new bike that fell over. Crash bars or not, I would've said I want a new one or $1000 and all repairs
Well done Sir. Well done. The correct answer to many things is "it depends", and that applies here. Lemmy has a brilliant mind to be able to take such a boring well-covered topic and add nuance with fresh perspective. Treat this as "getting to know your tire?" Boom. Done. Next.
Good advice. I go to a big empty parking lot and make progressively lower leaning angle turns thereby scrubbing off the release agent bit by bit from middle to edge.
I just bought a brand new obviously outgoing 2017 Speed Triple S with ZERO miles last week, still waiting on delivery. Will be breaking everything in. 🤩
I put a pair of Bridgestone on my bike (dry day), got about 20 yards from the shop door and found myself on the ground. I had ridden out hard with the bike slightly leaning to the right to avoid a hole in their metal drainage gully, and the bike low sided me. The bikes TC made no difference, the tires just went from under me.
Bought a 2nd (3rd or 4th) hand bike last year with a pair of Bridgestones. Mid way through the year and the tread vanished between fill-ups. Reviews (and Lemmy) really like Road 5s and he dealer was pushing Road 4s. One review said the 5s really quickened up the steering on his sport-tourer. Being a new to rain, and getting caught in a small tropical storm, I went with 5s. Having never "broken in" a new set of tires I went light on it to a nearby business park that had a nice 2 ish mile "dog bone" loop in the middle. The first left on the way there and I think I'm being gentle on the bike. It dives into the corner faster than I've ever leaned into turn. I learned those tires real fast after that. It was an interesting few days getting to know the steering all over again. They are more stable over rain grooves and tarsnakes (for me anyway). So until Road 6s come out, I'll ride on 5s. But that first 100-200, it's interesting getting to know the bike all over again.
Same. I just put a new set of 5s on my 09 Speed Triple. Did the "getting to know you" thing for the first tank-full, including some low-speed parking lot stuff (Right-on, Lemmy!). I came off of original-spec Metzlers and the turn-in on the 5s was more fluid and easy. It felt like, finally, the front and rear were talking to each other. After a few hundred miles, they feel almost transformative. The old Speedy is more fun! Great grip, comfy enough and better on squiggly-type tarmac. In Las Vegas, there are road grooves all over the place, not to mention the temporary BS that's the result of perpetual major road repairs: all handled exceptionally well.
Great stuff Lem. I've followed that get to know you process most of my riding life and knock on wood (taps forehead) I have never been badly surprised. Different tires even on the same machine respond very differently, and there is an acclimatization period. Some makers still suggest a rough-in period of 100km and really what's the harm in that?
Thanks as always for the video Lemmy! Always great tips from you in these 2 minute lessons! I figure I would give my experience on the 2 tires I've ever broken in on my Yamaha FJ-09! When I bought the bike used with just over 5k miles on it I requested the back tire be changed out because there was a visible flat spot, likely from the type of flat-land riding we have in the chicagoland area, but the shop was kind enough to put a new tire on for me when I went to pick up the cash to finish the transaction. The tire was a continental something or other, and was practically a slick sport. I noticed that during my first few turns no matter the power I gave it the bikes TCS would kick on for rear tire spin because of just how slippery the tires were at first. After breaking in to the point I felt comfortable accelerating around the turns again there was plenty of grip. The other tires I've broken in were the Road 5's and those babies were glued from the moment I got them put on, even when my first ride was in misty/damp driving conditions, I never felt a slip from them or saw my TCS kick on for rear tire spin but only for front tire load reduction (wheelie stop) while accelerating :'D My coworkers don't believe I could wheelie in the rain, while I haven't really tested it I bet you could no problem with the road 5s. But it goes to show that every tire is different, and as a rider you need to be observant to know what method/time for break in is the best for you in your situation. If you read this novel good on you, take care friends and RIDE SAFE!
@Rod Rebman currently have the Michelin Road 5 tires, because I ride rain or shine to commute to work and they are the best wet weather tire! I'll probably order another set even though these should be good for a good while longer. The wet weather performance is really noticible over the previous tires I had
Hey lemmy and revzilla, how about a 5 and 10 min lesson series too. With tires for instance. 2 min for do you break them in, 5 min for why are your tires cupping. 10 min how do you set your suspension up to take advantage of your long wearing really good rain pilot?
I’ve only just noticed the profile difference of the Conti Road Attack 3s vs the Michelin Pilot 5. The Contis don’t have such an “acute peak” (no idea the technical term, LOL) compared to the Michelins. I wonder if that means that the Michelins would feel more sporty and tip into corners better than the Contis. FWIW I’ve put about 10k miles on my set of Conti RA 3s and those are the best tires I’ve ever used on the road.
Over 20 plus years of riding experience , never heard of "tire break in" but what IS real is the waxy type coating that is on tires when you get them, I believe its to preserve the rubber while in storage. now that is dangerous if not addressed. Ive seen many accidents from guys with new tires and they slip out on them when tires would normally stick ESPECIALLY ON WET ROADS. you could ride easy for the first 50-100 miles or so to wear that coating off. But what we always do as soon as we get new tires in is, take some light sand paper and hit the entire tire with it. dont go crazy trying to rub through the thing, just scrub it down removing the coating and your good to go.
I've been doing what you say for 40 years - also, I put some mineral turpentine on a rag and wipe the coating off before sanding. Never had a problem with 'breaking in.'
I've never had a new tire slip on the street and I've never babied them either. I did once have one consistently slip on a track day until the third pass of the horseshoe up at Mid Ohio. It's made of concrete, and the tires wiggled a lot on that a couple times. Was probably as much about them being cold as being new though.
When you put new tires on especially a different type or brand they can feel extraordinarily different it does take some time to get used to them and scuff them in good
Hi there I just had my front tyre changed and had white marks , similarly like the tyres at 1:58 . Do they get rid after riding a certain distance ? As the marks are all the way to the side, idoubt i will lean that much to get rid of them
And that's how people get hurt or damage their bike. When I went from old tires to new tires on a bike I no longer have, I almost slid out on some turns I've made hundreds of times because the tires wasn't scuffed up yet. If you want to ride dangerously, that's fine. But don't tell others to do the same. Especially when new riders may/will read this. There is a reason this video exists.
iv got a 2006 honda cg 125 with the original tyres and im starting to see cracks on the sides of both tyres, there's no deep gouges or anything just small hairline cracks and only on the sides, do i have much more life on them? they've done 22k miles by the way.
They are done...stick a fork in them! Actually when cracks appear, the natural moisturizers in the tire have exhausted and the tire could burst anytime. Not that it will today or tomorrow but the risk is there....replace them.
Never ride on cracked rubber. You are asking for a problem and at 22k you have more than gotten your $ worth! Tires are relatively cheap, hospitals are not.
I'm not sure it's really that obvious. Especialy the bit about needing to go through this even if you're replacing the tire with the same model. I was surprised how much of a difference it made going between a rear tire with roughl 9k miles on it and a new one of the same design.
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Very good advice Lem. And actually very old school. The same advice I was given back in 1970 when I first began riding motorcycles.you need to spend some time getting to know the tire because every tire handles differently. Thank you lem.
Dang Lemmy. That is one hell of a tan line from your gloves
My guy has been riding harddd lol
Destro Matic Holy crap! Now that’s all I can see! 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Riders tan🤪
Squid line
When I bought my bike, it had new tires on it. The dealer decided to send one of the new techs out to test ride it before I did, since it hadn't been run in some time. He brought those pretty new tires on to some smooth new asphalt, and ended up putting the bike down. Luckily, it had crash bars, so it just got a few scratches, and I payed $500 less for the bike.
Only 500 off for a downed bike?😅
maaan you could have asked for a 1000 discount at least!
@@phantomshtter you’d be surprised how well crash bars/ engine guards protect the bike. I dropped mine twice the first day I rode (on dirt) not a single scratch
They'd lose a lot more if you tried to sell brand new bike that fell over. Crash bars or not, I would've said I want a new one or $1000 and all repairs
Nothing makes a bike feel fresh an new like a new tire. I love that feeling, makes me ride the bike more so I can change the tires again.
Well done Sir. Well done. The correct answer to many things is "it depends", and that applies here. Lemmy has a brilliant mind to be able to take such a boring well-covered topic and add nuance with fresh perspective. Treat this as "getting to know your tire?" Boom. Done. Next.
Good advice. I go to a big empty parking lot and make progressively lower leaning angle turns thereby scrubbing off the release agent bit by bit from middle to edge.
Good advice; it always takes a little while to adjust to any new thing on a bike and a re-learning period is always needed, regardless of experience.
I just bought a brand new obviously outgoing 2017 Speed Triple S with ZERO miles last week, still waiting on delivery. Will be breaking everything in. 🤩
I put a pair of Bridgestone on my bike (dry day), got about 20 yards from the shop door and found myself on the ground. I had ridden out hard with the bike slightly leaning to the right to avoid a hole in their metal drainage gully, and the bike low sided me. The bikes TC made no difference, the tires just went from under me.
After 20 yards they for sure weren't up to temperature. That's all you can be really sure of
Bought a 2nd (3rd or 4th) hand bike last year with a pair of Bridgestones. Mid way through the year and the tread vanished between fill-ups. Reviews (and Lemmy) really like Road 5s and he dealer was pushing Road 4s. One review said the 5s really quickened up the steering on his sport-tourer. Being a new to rain, and getting caught in a small tropical storm, I went with 5s. Having never "broken in" a new set of tires I went light on it to a nearby business park that had a nice 2 ish mile "dog bone" loop in the middle. The first left on the way there and I think I'm being gentle on the bike. It dives into the corner faster than I've ever leaned into turn.
I learned those tires real fast after that. It was an interesting few days getting to know the steering all over again. They are more stable over rain grooves and tarsnakes (for me anyway). So until Road 6s come out, I'll ride on 5s. But that first 100-200, it's interesting getting to know the bike all over again.
Same. I just put a new set of 5s on my 09 Speed Triple. Did the "getting to know you" thing for the first tank-full, including some low-speed parking lot stuff (Right-on, Lemmy!). I came off of original-spec Metzlers and the turn-in on the 5s was more fluid and easy. It felt like, finally, the front and rear were talking to each other. After a few hundred miles, they feel almost transformative. The old Speedy is more fun! Great grip, comfy enough and better on squiggly-type tarmac. In Las Vegas, there are road grooves all over the place, not to mention the temporary BS that's the result of perpetual major road repairs: all handled exceptionally well.
Great stuff Lem. I've followed that get to know you process most of my riding life and knock on wood (taps forehead) I have never been badly surprised. Different tires even on the same machine respond very differently, and there is an acclimatization period. Some makers still suggest a rough-in period of 100km and really what's the harm in that?
This is a handy video I'm getting a new set of Perelli Rosso 3's this weekend love that tyre on my bike :)
I’ve never heard of tire break-in. Thanks for the info.
Thanks as always for the video Lemmy! Always great tips from you in these 2 minute lessons! I figure I would give my experience on the 2 tires I've ever broken in on my Yamaha FJ-09!
When I bought the bike used with just over 5k miles on it I requested the back tire be changed out because there was a visible flat spot, likely from the type of flat-land riding we have in the chicagoland area, but the shop was kind enough to put a new tire on for me when I went to pick up the cash to finish the transaction. The tire was a continental something or other, and was practically a slick sport. I noticed that during my first few turns no matter the power I gave it the bikes TCS would kick on for rear tire spin because of just how slippery the tires were at first. After breaking in to the point I felt comfortable accelerating around the turns again there was plenty of grip. The other tires I've broken in were the Road 5's and those babies were glued from the moment I got them put on, even when my first ride was in misty/damp driving conditions, I never felt a slip from them or saw my TCS kick on for rear tire spin but only for front tire load reduction (wheelie stop) while accelerating :'D My coworkers don't believe I could wheelie in the rain, while I haven't really tested it I bet you could no problem with the road 5s. But it goes to show that every tire is different, and as a rider you need to be observant to know what method/time for break in is the best for you in your situation.
If you read this novel good on you, take care friends and RIDE SAFE!
@Rod Rebman currently have the Michelin Road 5 tires, because I ride rain or shine to commute to work and they are the best wet weather tire! I'll probably order another set even though these should be good for a good while longer. The wet weather performance is really noticible over the previous tires I had
Nice video dude !, I tried Continental's traction skined tires and they really work straight away.
Hey lemmy and revzilla, how about a 5 and 10 min lesson series too. With tires for instance. 2 min for do you break them in, 5 min for why are your tires cupping. 10 min how do you set your suspension up to take advantage of your long wearing really good rain pilot?
I’ve only just noticed the profile difference of the Conti Road Attack 3s vs the Michelin Pilot 5. The Contis don’t have such an “acute peak” (no idea the technical term, LOL) compared to the Michelins. I wonder if that means that the Michelins would feel more sporty and tip into corners better than the Contis. FWIW I’ve put about 10k miles on my set of Conti RA 3s and those are the best tires I’ve ever used on the road.
Over 20 plus years of riding experience , never heard of "tire break in" but what IS real is the waxy type coating that is on tires when you get them, I believe its to preserve the rubber while in storage. now that is dangerous if not addressed. Ive seen many accidents from guys with new tires and they slip out on them when tires would normally stick ESPECIALLY ON WET ROADS. you could ride easy for the first 50-100 miles or so to wear that coating off. But what we always do as soon as we get new tires in is, take some light sand paper and hit the entire tire with it. dont go crazy trying to rub through the thing, just scrub it down removing the coating and your good to go.
I've been doing what you say for 40 years - also, I put some mineral turpentine on a rag and wipe the coating off before sanding. Never had a problem with 'breaking in.'
boomers that ride cruiser type bikes and barely lean their bikes are not going to encounter too many issues with new tires.
On my TL1000R - New tire (Mechiler Tec 01) I gradualy increase lean angle & drive threw corners over a 100 mile or 160 km period.
Same bike here
How are they still selling slippy tires? This is ridiculous.
Lawyers get on it and fix this: too many injuries and damage.
And it's embarrassing :-)
Thank ya, Lemmy. Good idea to reverse the break in idea.
I've never had a new tire slip on the street and I've never babied them either. I did once have one consistently slip on a track day until the third pass of the horseshoe up at Mid Ohio. It's made of concrete, and the tires wiggled a lot on that a couple times. Was probably as much about them being cold as being new though.
When you put new tires on especially a different type or brand they can feel extraordinarily different it does take some time to get used to them and scuff them in good
Great common sense advise!
bumpy / shaky ride normal with new tires?
Love the movie clips 😂😂😂😂
More like riding it out,but I had to be careful when leaning and not too much speed.
Great advice as always!
Needed this. Very helpful
That arm tan tells me somebody doesn’t believe arm protection lol
I'll agree well said
You da man. As always, thanks.
Great topic!
good explanation
Why not achieve initial scrub in with an automotive sanding block and the bike on a stand popped in to ⚙ 🤷♂️
Step 1 : twist throttle
Step 2 : enjoy the ride
............. don't over think it 👍
There goes Skuba Steve.
Got that same tan line right now... lol
Break in tyres are a danger, the lokal bad boy broke my 1st floor window, with his break in tire😢
How do track & race riders break theirs in so fast ?
Can you do a review on joe rocket ufo 2.0 jacket in black preferably. A lot of people buy them already but no one has done a review on it on TH-cam
Hi there
I just had my front tyre changed and had white marks , similarly like the tyres at 1:58 . Do they get rid after riding a certain distance ? As the marks are all the way to the side, idoubt i will lean that much to get rid of them
HOOOWWWDDDYY!
Just put them on and ride. Quit overthinking things.
And that's how people get hurt or damage their bike.
When I went from old tires to new tires on a bike I no longer have, I almost slid out on some turns I've made hundreds of times because the tires wasn't scuffed up yet.
If you want to ride dangerously, that's fine. But don't tell others to do the same. Especially when new riders may/will read this. There is a reason this video exists.
lol this is perfect i just got new tires XD
Better make a video on breaking in a new motorcycle alltogether.
I have brand new tires never used, but bought them 5 years ago
Are they still good to install and ride on??
Considering they are out dated
Check for dry rot/cracks. If it's still pliable it's good to go. But look for a replacement soon anyway.
Acclimated? 😳
iv got a 2006 honda cg 125 with the original tyres and im starting to see cracks on the sides of both tyres, there's no deep gouges or anything just small hairline cracks and only on the sides, do i have much more life on them? they've done 22k miles by the way.
They are done...stick a fork in them! Actually when cracks appear, the natural moisturizers in the tire have exhausted and the tire could burst anytime. Not that it will today or tomorrow but the risk is there....replace them.
Never ride on cracked rubber. You are asking for a problem and at 22k you have more than gotten your $ worth! Tires are relatively cheap, hospitals are not.
Boom
Your one cool mo fo!
HI! i m taking my A1 licence, do u think that Yamaha MT125 is a good option?
That's a good all around bike to learn on. -DrewZilla
What gloves are that?
What ever happened to a update on csc sg250
Here's the first update (www.revzilla.com/common-tread/one-tank-of-gas-through-the-csc-sg250-san-gabriel), and we might do more over time. -DrewZilla
Hello , does any know how to clean leaked oil of the tires?
Use a simple degreaser and then rinse thoroughly with water. Make sure the tires aren't slick afterwards. -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla is brake cleaner ok for this type of job?
I'd avoid using brake cleaner. -DrewZilla
What i got from this is basically do a burnout.
And for the front...?
@@kevishalphen1332 A reverse burnout.. obviously.
Acclimated really. Acclimatised
Really dude, I'm getting tired of these obvious answeres, com'on.
I'm not sure it's really that obvious. Especialy the bit about needing to go through this even if you're replacing the tire with the same model.
I was surprised how much of a difference it made going between a rear tire with roughl 9k miles on it and a new one of the same design.
3 words.... just fucking ride....