How to Replace Mercedes ML W164 OM642 PCV Valve - The Complete DIY Guide - ML300 ML320 ML350
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I show you how to replace the PCV valve separator on a 2011 ML W164 Mercedes-Benz with OM642 V6 Diesel Engine.
In this video I show you how to replace the PCV Valve on a Mercedes ML or GL vehicle with the OM642 V6 Diesel Engine. For the video I am using my 2011 Mercedes ML300 W164.
This is not a complex procedure, however the valve is relatively hard to get to, however with this video, you should have no issues!
What you will see is that I step by step show you how to do this procedure safely with minimal tools. In particular I have attempted to film all of the steps involved without avoiding the trickier elements of this task.
The part used in this video was:
* A 642 010 17 91 (Genuine Mercedes OEM)
Unfortunately Amazon are no longer selling the Genuine Mercedes OEM part and from Mercedes dealership the pricing is just crazy high for what it actually is (a valve). Here is a link to a quality aftermarket part at about one fifth of the price Mercedes Dealership will charge you:
Amazon (US and General): amzn.to/3HIKYd9
The tools used in replacing the PCV Valve are:
* 10mm Socket
* E10 Socket
* Screwdriver
* Small Hammer
Music: www.bensound.com
This video actually helped me locate the DPF differential pressure sensor it is behind that left airbox. If anyone has limp mode issues, might be worth replacing that sensor, so far has solved my issues, I had two of the same sensors on my 2010 ML350 bluetec.
Awesome, I’m glad it helped and you solved your issue!! Cheers Drew
same issue, dpf keeps regen, limp mode, oil in the tubing, everyone say is fine....and just came by your video....now,,,,i know exactly what i need....thank you so much for your video
Glad it helped! Cheers Drew
Another excellent Video. Will be buying this part today! Thanks for your great description and workflow.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers Drew
Thanks for that drew. Not alot out there for this engine. Alot more out for the older 320 v6. Which has a different pcv valve.
Cheers!
Hi Ross, u you are correct. Sometimes you may say a Black 2006 ML320, this one has the older PCV valve style which is actually on top of the head and is a different valve! Cheers Drew
I think the pcv valve replacement before reaching 60k km is probably the most important maintenance item that people neglect on the OM642. This is what kills the intake flaps and all kind of carboned-up issues, not the EGR.
Hi Emi, thanks for your comments, I believe that you are spot on! Cheers Drew
My last one only went 23,000 miles! Average seems to be about 60K.
@@KitYeeScott these things are too cheap to not make it a regular maintenance item with the air filters and whatever. I'll make sure to do it more often from here on out, I was planning 40k for the next change but I'll cut it short.
Did this on my w212 e350. Straight forward but those bolts are a bugger to get to. I had to remove airbox and that bracket too Had to use a pry bar to ease it out too. Wish I'd seen this video first . Thanks.
Thanks man we change it it was in very bad situation and leaking oil too 😅
Glad it helped!! Cheers Drew
Hiya, I just did this job on my R class. Your video was very useful. Mine was like yours, just a bit of oil - but it had obviously never been off at 95K miles and 10 years. Liked and subscribed 🙂
I did the green O ring too - that was hard and knackered!
Awesome and thanks for the feedback! Cheers Drew
Did you notice lower fuel consumption after replacing?
@Silvestian yes mate, do you have the same mpg drops down? My go from 45 to 39 mpg 😢
You sir are a godsend. Thank you for making this video as I am sure i'll be using it in the near future.
Great video. I am about to do this on my 2017 sprinter . This was a great help. Thanks.
Hi Charles, I’m glad it was helpful and thanks for the feedback! Cheers Drew
Great instructions...very thorough...well done
Glad it was helpful! Cheers Drew
Hey Drew - thanks for all your videos mate. Very helpful. I have the same car as you, looking at replacing the PCV. I have found a genuine Mercedes PCV for $250 AUD delivered to Aus, wondering if you thought that was a decent price. I’d rather get the genuine part as opposed to a third party but wondered if that price is in line with your expectations. Cheers mate.
Hi Adam, I just looked up my records and I paid $279 for my genuine one (incl postage), so I personally think $250 AUD delivered to Aus is a good price. As I explained in the video I thought it was best going with a genuine part and have not looked back. All the best and let us know how you go please :) Thanks Andrew
Hi, thanks so much for educating us with all these great videos. I also have a 2011 ml350 with bluetec , with about 115000 miles on it, recently it has had a really bad vibration while driving in traffic with low rpm usually abot 1400 to 1900 then it goes away, almost as if the transmission mount was causing it. I was wondering if you or any of your viewers have experienced similar issues. Best regards.
Hi Vahid, vibrations can come from many places throughout the entire driveline. Personally I would start with checking to see if your wheels are in balance and then progressively work through checking mounts and couplings. Note, I did personally have a vibration which turned out to be a wheel out of balance at one stage. Cheers Drew
Same MY 2011 350d You'll most likely find it's your front control arms and front air shocks. Had both replaced and what a difference it made!
Hi Dew... I have a 2007 GL320 CDI and I can listem my turbo leaking air and not boosting... I repalced the Turbo actuator not too long ago and the car was running pretty good until 3 days ago... now, no power and a wooooosh sound coming as I step on the gas pedal. Any ideia? thanks and a big hug from FL, USA. (BTW, I have run a scanner, it said a MAF sensor fault. I replaced both MAFs and same thing. So, I'm really confused about whts going on...
Thank you really good video planning on replacing this part soon
thank you so much that video realy helpfull.
Hi Robert, thanks for the feedback and glad that it helped you out! Cheers Drew
I have a 2007 ML 280 CDI, misfire at idle but drives ok.......It has an OM642 turbo diesel like yours but older. Nothing comes up on scanners.
I own a 2016 GL 350. I have noticed that the fuel consumption has increased after i had its B5 service done from he dealership. And I have also noticed some oil on the plastic box like thing that is in the front of the engine connected to the line that goes from turbo to the intercooler.
Hi Mate, unfortunately I have not many very good experiences with mechanics (inclusive of work undertaken by dealerships) which is why I do all of my own work now and share as much information as I can to others with my videos. Any oil leak is not right and you have two options 1/ take it back to the dealership where the service was done and get them to rectify the issue that they caused under warranty or 2/ fix it yourself! At the end of the day the most likely cause will be a bad seal as a result of them pulling something apart and then stuffing the seal on reassembly! Checkout this video I posted which is probably the issue are now having: th-cam.com/video/D9ALXb4pbww/w-d-xo.html Cheers Drew
Gonna give this a go on mine to see if it improves fuel economy. Mines done 170k Miles and never been changed
Hi Mate, your engine will love you for not sucking all that crankcase oil!!! Cheers Drew
Another great video, you are saving us heaps. Can I confirm that with PCV valve replacement, do I still need to install oil catch can? That is a more daunting task which I'll happily avoid. My OM642 has only done 70K Km or 44K miles. When do I need to start replacing the PCV valve? Are there symptoms like high fuel consumption which is a good indication to PCV failure? Thanks again.
Hi Rafis, all excellent questions! To be honest I think this is actually an age thing as opposed to usage (eg kms) as the rubber diaphragm inside the PCV goes hard with age, however the thing to do is to simply take the plastic turbo y inlet pipe off and look in the turbo inlet to see if there is excessive crankcase oil sitting on the inlet lip of the turbo. I have not put a catch can on my OM642 and mine has now done 140,000 kms however I have thought about doing it a few times. Probably not a bad idea in the long term, however my thought was to fix the source problem first, which I believe was the PCV. After doing the PCV I surprisingly got much better fuel economy which I also explained in a video:
th-cam.com/video/XihgSa-Qyr0/w-d-xo.html Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt @DrewFixIt Hey mate, so took your advice and took out the Y pipe cause I was only getting 7-8km/l on a highway run and only 9-10km/l in the city. I think a dielse can do better. And true enough, even at 77K km, there's oil around the turbo inlet and both ends of the Y pipe seals. I've ordered the PCV part you've suggested and once it's in, I'll find the courage to replace it. It is an easy job but it is in such a tight space that it is tricky. And you are so right about mechanics at dealerships. This car has a good history of it being serviced and maintained at MB however when I removed the Y pipe I saw that one of the seal was not seated properly and someone has forced it in and lock the clips meaning it was not sealed properly for many thousands of kilometres. Not sure if this would disturb the MAF and fuel consumption. Anyway I've replaced that left side seal myself and hopefully I didn't bodged it as it wasn't as easy to put it back as the right hand side. The turbo seal looked alright but I've replaced it with a new one and it fits a lot more snugly and have also tightened o ring clamp which was not tightened before. I also wonder if I should just block off the PCV hose connecting to the Y pipe? And then block off that hole on the Y pipe, what would that do if I don't install an oil catch can. Thanks Drew
@@rafiskadir Hi Rafis, the crankcase needs to breathe mate, thus please do NOT block off the PCV breather hole as you suggest. NOTE - if you do this you could actually cause damage! Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt Yikes...definitely won't be doing that. Enjoy the weekend
Pięknie, jesteś wspaniałym człowiekiem. Pozdrawiam
Dziękuję za miłe słowa! Pozdrawiam Drew
Bonjour merci pour l'info mes c quoi les problèmes quelle faite cette pièce svp merci beaucoup
tres bon travail bravo
Merci j'apprécie les commentaires! Bravo Drew
got e350 4matic,2010 model,just same part. They sell also that oilring,oilseal,60euros. And whole tubular system,200euros. So i just bought whole tubing valve case thingy.430thousand kilos driven, in a klock. About time to change. MIL-light ,motor shape- is on now. Just fefore,i put 4tech stuff in a tank. To dissolve pdf stuck. shall see.....greets from finland/suomi.
Hi Mate, thanks for the update! Cheers Drew
Отличная работа.
Great video Drew ... can I ask the two bolts that hold the PCV ... did you torque them up and if so how tight do they go please ... thank you
Hi Brady, I did not use a torque wrench, I just tightened them by feel. Honestly the best part I have swapped out, there is another idea I did after this one wrt the unexpected increase in fuel economy, which is absolutely true to this day. Cheers Drew
Hey Drew, could you please provide the link to where you purchased this from Amazon? Thanks!
Unfortunately Amazon has currently sold out of these! I suggest trying FCP Euro! Cheers Drew
Thanx Drew, for your super video on replacing the PVC valve on the OM642 engine. Salaams from the UK & East Africa!!
Hi there
Do you use any liqui moly CeraTec oil additives when changing oil?
Any advice highly appreciated
Hi Mate, I have used oil additives many years ago, but that was like 20 years ago. I certainly am not against them, however I genuinely purchased high quality oil as specified by the manufacturer and rely upon good quality oil. Cheers Drew
Hi Drew, were you noticing an oil leak before this repair? I've been chasing an oil leak on my jeep cherokee with the om642, I had the oil cooler seals replaced and that helped a lot but I still have a small leak somewhere leaving 5 or 6 drips after it is parked. Thanks!
Hi Mate, yes I was! Also check out this video …
th-cam.com/video/D9ALXb4pbww/w-d-xo.html It actually makes me annoyed that the first thing repair shops want to do is oil cooler seals and then they wand you away with oil leaks still after spending a couple of grand!! Cheers Drew
Know this is late, but om642 has issues for oil leaks at the vacuum pump as well as the oil housing filter. Worth looking in those areas if still have the car.
Hi Drew nice video again. So is this the same procedure for a petrol engine (ML 350, W164) ?
Hi Louis, it will be different on a petrol engine. Cheers Drew
Hi from Canada, Drew. This piece of advice is incredibly helpful. I've had a bad oil cooler leak on my 2010 and the mechanic is currently looking at it. The turbocharger stopped working and the car has been in limp mode for a while now. We'll be replacing the turbocharger but I'm starting to wonder if the reason it's not working is because of a leak from the PCV valve? Do you think it's wise to also replace the turbocharger? For the PCV, Mercedes advised to use part A6420102391, not the one you used. I’m a bit confused…
Hi Mate, are you sure that you need a complete new turbo? I replaced the turbo actuator on the black ML that you sometime see on the channel with this part: amzn.to/41VsXSi and it fixed the issue with the vehicle going into limp mode with a turbo fault. It is far cheaper to just buy this part than the whole turbo! Cheers Drew
I was wondering about that but was skeptical after reading some online posts about the replacement actuators crapping out. I already bought the new turbo, though. Does it make any sense that an bad PCV valve could leak INTO the turbo or does it just leak ONTO it, not damaging it? Thanks so much! @@DrewFixIt
@@tickertape82 Hi Mate, I can't see how additional oil going into a Turbo could damage it. Rather the additional oil just creates a mess in all of the intercooler and intake system! Where are you, can I have your old Turbo? Cheers Drew
Ok, good to know! I'm up in Canada. Can save it for you if you like. @@DrewFixIt
Some youtubers suggest to reroute the CV from right in front of the turbo intake to in front of the air filter to reduce suction. What are your thoughts on this?
I think the manufacturer made it like this for a reason, so just replace the defective parts! Cheers Drew
Hey !
Does a bad PCV can affect your EGR valve ?
Hi Mate, a bad PCV valve has the potential for the turbo to suck crankcase oil when it spools up, Whig I suppose could then pump that oil through the whole EGR system too … Cheers Drew
1 month ago i did the oil change in a workshop . After oil change i noticed some loss of power . But I didn’t care because there was no warning lights . Yesterday i checked there but the PCV rubber seal , intake seal weren’t connected well . I will change the seals immediately.
Could it done any harm to the engine or other components??
These days no one can believe the workshops . 😕 even he didn’t close well the air filter clamp 😑
Hi Kavindu, the last time I went to a workshop I was terribly disappointed. They charged a lot for sub standard work, I think I took the car back to them 4 times to fix the issues that they created, but then in the end I had to fix several things (that they did wrong) myself ... just not worth it, that is why I started fixing my cars myself and why I try to share what I do with others too! Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt usually i also do the same . I don’t have lot of knowledge about motor mechanics. But i read lot of articles and learn with experience . So i can do things very carefully. But this time i have an extended warranty for this car . So i must visit the workshop. But i was really scared how they closed the air pipes . If he did any repair inside engine nobody sees that .
@@kavindugilshan Hi Kavindu, understood. extended warranties make it difficult. My suggestion is to find yourself a good indy to do service work but then check everything they do yourself afterwards! I have another video on changing the turbo inlet seals another on changing the filters, etc, infact I have a whole playlist you can watch .. th-cam.com/play/PLor5qdyoV_nRcb5hDS-z6z1wUHNednb2h.html The more you learn the better! Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt thanks !!
Did it help getting the oil into turbo?
Yes mate, my Turbo is much healthier for it now! Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt thanks. My turbo is getting oil through this valve. But new part seems like straight pipe. I will replace it anyway. Thanks
@@satnamlayal7034 I think perhaps you have received an incorrect part as my part I installed was physically identical to the original. Cheers Drew
Solución reten oil
Hello drew,
I just change my pcv valve, the car i driving great and have nice response but i am getting really high fuel consumption efter the replacement you have any idea what vent wrong ?
My air filter on the driver side is have oil marks aswell ( 20% of the airfilter)
Regards worried 350 ownerb
Hi Mate, sounds like you are sucking up an excessive amount of oil. Did you install a genuine Mercedes part mate? Cheers Drew
The old pcv was a original i think, it was stuck open wich made the oil leak into the airfilter. The new one is from a brand called trucktek and seem to do the job better but just giving me absurd amount of fuel consumption.
Any sugestions of what i cal do to fix it ?
Can oiled up maf sensors make this occur ?
A little update.
Just stript the intake butterfly and cleaned it with contact spray and canned air the car is running great and rides nice.. the fuel consumption on highway was back to normal again but when i just stand still and idle its starts going up again
Any toughts ?
@@HaiderAli-cd3vt the new PCV valve has a new sensor in the hose from memory. Sounds like you may just need to put some time on it to let the ECU re-calibrate perhaps? Cheers Drew
is anyone know the purge valve location in the ml350 diesel 2011
thank y
Can the car smoke for about 10 seconds on a cold start, like in this video th-cam.com/users/shortsPiUrejjP-hI because of a bad PCV.. it is cls 350 cdi 2014
Hello everyone This will not help, you need to install an additional oil catcher
Hi, I have oil also in my turbo on my 2008 e320, I thought it was supposed to be like that, also I have an oil leak, don’t see where it comes from but it’s mostly on the drivers side and seems like it starts from top
Hi Vadim, has your car got the OM642 engine and is it right hand drive? Thanks Drew
@@DrewFixIt yes om642, it’s left hand
@@vadimburda4111 Ok. The turbo intercooler pipes run on that side and it could be that the seals are compromised? Does the car lack turbo boost? Is it spraying a mist back towards the firewall on that side? Is it dripping off the EGR valve? Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt I don’t see anything on the egr valve, also the o rings on the intercooler hoses are good, also I don’t know if it’s lacking boost since it started leaking right after I bought the car
@@vadimburda4111 hey, that car has 2 very common oil leaks. One is the very difficult oil cooler seals... the other, if your lucky,, after 150kmiles or so the oil filter housing. The seals go bad... if you see a lot.of oil on your lower AC lines and compressor and some on your belt, its the filter housing, pretty simpleto do.
If you see a lot every where including from the back of the motor.. almost looks like from the transmission, that will be your oil cooler and thats a very hard one.
how many miles have you got?
In Miles, approximately 100,000! Cheers Drew
bonjour avez vous le lien de la valve
amzn.to/3sMGudK Remarque - il ne s'agit pas d'une pièce d'origine, mais à un cinquième du prix du concessionnaire Mercedes, c'est un très bon rapport qualité-prix. Bravo Drew
Egr please!
Hi Mate, we did the EGR in the black ML that sometimes is on the channel a couple of months back, but unfortunately didn’t film it. It was actually really hard to get out, what we did was losses the bolts and drove it with loose bolts for a couple of weeks so it naturally forced itself out. I’m not sure how legit our method was, thus why we didn’t film it! Cheers Drew
17:12 My orange valve keeps slipping out of the y pipe. Does anyone know how to keep it in ? Thanks
How old are your orange seals? Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt Thanks for replying. Quite new, I check the main turbo one often for leaks on to swirl flap motor. The PCV one just seems loose and pushes itself out after a drive 🙂
@@damian-795 agreed it's not the best design, my suggestion is to replace the little red seal to the PCV valve with a new one. Out of interest does your car have the Y pipe the same as my car or is it the earlier design? Cheers Drew
@@DrewFixIt Its the same but in a W211 E Class and is the OM642. I just looked that seal today and there is a little notch that was not quite lined up. I think its staying in place now 🙂 , I hope. A good blow on the motorway may push it out again, I will see. Thanks you for your time, if it plays up I will get a new one.
@@damian-795 Awesome, thanks for the share. BTW when you give it "A good blow on the motorway" it should actually suck it in further as your PCV should close and the turbo will spool up creating a vacuum in that breather hose! Cheers Drew
Great video but Benz only like Benz parts Amazon parts are carp.
Hi Mohamed, I think that you have to be selective about where you use genuine parts versus Amazon parts. I have had great experience using Amazon (non OEM) parts on my Mercedes, however in this case I deliberately chose an OEM part for the reasons mentioned in this video! My air suspension by comparison is completely Chines parts purchased from Amazon and I have absolutely no issues with my suspension on the vehicle and saved many thousands of dollars by going down this route! Cheers Drew
Tip. Buy oem.
Hi Mate, I rarely buy OEM, however in this case I did! Cheers Drew
Multumesc!
Nici o problemă! Noroc Drew