5800H vs 4800H in 10 Games - AMD Integrated Graphics (iGPU) Comparison
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How does the integrated graphics (iGPU) in AMD’s new Ryzen 7 5800H CPU compare against the 4800H? I’ve compared both in 10 games and applications to show you the differences! Check prices of laptops tested 👇
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Ryzen iGPU Comparison Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:22 Spec differences
0:47 Who uses iGPU?
1:11 Laptops tested
1:49 Fortnite
2:17 CS:GO
2:34 Dota 2
2:47 Overwatch
3:02 Rainbow Six Siege
3:33 Cyberpunk 2077
3:41 Red Dead Redemption 2
3:58 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
4:17 Battlefield V
4:33 Control
4:51 Difference in all 10 games
5:22 Blender OpenCL
5:37 Power Draw / Temperatures / Battery Life?
6:08 4800U vs 5800U
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integrated graphics are becoming insane
gone are the days of Intel HD 3000, they won't be missed
can't believe those integrated graphics are better than my 1050 ti
@@markaj_ they have terrible 1% lows in csgo
@@riplikatlnloki5091 that's an outlier, look at r6, the 1% lows are higher than my average FPS with 1050 Ti SADGE
edit: just realised it's rendered to 720p, but still impressive
Integrated RTX 3090
@@markaj_ They are not, far from 1050Ti performance. But these iGPUs are decent, as basically all games can be considered playable on them- and many run quite nice.
Day 2 of telling Jarrod that his uploads make my day
You aren't the only one 😉
Would totally love seeing the iGPU performance in the U series chips, actually would like to see more coverage of the U series chips in general and how the 5700U and 5500U are still Zen 2. I think more consumers need to know this difference as these chips sell the most/easiest to find in all of AMDs lineup.
Hopefully I can get some!
Been running a vivobook with 4700U / Vega 7
Most games are playable at 720p medium or low, some slower paced games you can tweak up to 1080
This is exactly what's holding me back, I'm buying for a kid and sense I'm not tech savvy about this stuff I don't want to buy something that's gonna make them upset and stress us out because it don't lay his steam or whatever they play. But I can't be spending crazy amounts either. I keep seeing great price on Lenovo and Ryzen 5500u or such but I can't get a clear enough answer if it will play games good or if I should still just set on a dedicated Nvidia graphics
Perfect benchmarking again. Especially great, that you tested at 720p, as that is where performance sweet spot is for these APUs (that is- native monitor resolution, but with resolution scaled to effective ~720p). This benchmarking gives a glimpse of what to expect from desktop, G-series APU models, like the leaked 5700G or 5800G.
Very informative, short, and to the point video. Would love to see a comparison of this and the new 11th gen Intel Xe integrated graphics!
Yeaaaaah !! Another nice content coming ! Great review Jarrod !
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this review! I need a convertible as I am teaching online and need pen support, but I still do some light gaming. Convertibles with descrete graphics are hard to find or just too expensive. So I have to rely on the iGPU. This review gets me so excited for the upcoming convertibles with Ryzen 5000 CPUs. Please include a Ryzen 5800u iGPU review if you got the chance (and the time) ;)
Keep up the good work!
2:11 The kids can now play fortnite seamlessly on their parents' thin and light office laptops
A shame really
@S Q AMD is really pushing their HS series forward !. Now other laptop manufacturers cannot ignore the fact that AMD is better and will probably start following in the footsteps of Asus and Lenovo
180fps with integrated graphics holy shit
*the way it's meant to be played*
At 1280x720. Yet, at perfect 1:2 rescaling from the original 1440p panel of Neo 15, it shouldn't be too bad watching at that.
@@TheMacco26 many games have an in game resolution scaling slider now so it doesnt matter
@@Supcharged I question whatever the resolution the game renders it won't be optimal unless it's the original proper resolution of the screen, or exactly 1:2 of it. 1080p on a 1440p screen is actually blurrier than a 1080p on a 1080p screen. On the other hand 720p on a 1440p screen (1:2) is as crisp as it is 720p on a 720p screen.
@@TheMacco26 It is irrelevant. The problems are caused by UI scaling. Games that have a resolution scaling slider will not cause any blurring beyond the fact that the game is just run at a lower resolution.
Great video as always Jarod! Can you do a probable specs video on lenovo legion 5 pro coming this March?
Thanks for this video. Its just solidify my confidence upon picking 4800h instead of the 5800h because of long eta at my place.
Instant like, could not dislike a vid with a guy wearing a "viking metal" shirt with a band that I love and seen live 3-4 times. Oh, and the vid was also great!
Hey man, i have a suggestion to u not a complaint
instead of showing diagrams for fps in games, can u show the real-time perfomance in camera itself i mean like recording a game or something
love your content
Keep up the great work!
Nice Comparison igpu's have come a long way. Want to see how Tigerlake H45 Xe Graphics and Zen 3 Vega graphics compare!!!
Great video, can you compare these two iGPUs with Intel Xe Graphic or NVIDIA MX450 or MX350?
THanks, @Jarrod! Do you think we're still on-track to see revised AMD mobile CPUs/APUs later in 2021 with Navi-based integrated graphics (instead of the Vega that I think the current 5000-series chips are using)?
Ayy you did It, thanks a lot!
I want everything in this world of cpus and gpus to be compared
Coz u are the only who gives detailed information of the cpus and gpus and laptops also
Great video. Would like to see a video on the Gigabyte A5 (2021)
It'll be interesting to see gaming performance of Ryzen 5 5600U laptops with the iGPU. AMD is slacking a bit, they need RDNA2 iGPU to compete with Xe Graphics.
Rdna2 is gonna outperform xe by alot
Ram speed and memory ranks make a difference with these APUs, my 4750GE saw as much as a 30% improvement going from 3000 CL20 single rank, to 3200C L19 single rank. Would love to see how much quad rank improves it, as so far my 4650G seems noticeably better going from 2 sticks to 4 sticks of ECC (same speed of 2933)
Lately I have been playing older games and low demanding games on my bed on a laptop tray, but the intel graphics sometimes aren't enough and I have to use the dedicated 2060 to run some games
not really fond of it being "stressed" on the bed even if it is on a flat wooden surface
So I would definitely use the VEGA APUs on a RYZEN machine from time to time if I had one
So thank you for making the video even if it is a very niche scenario.... great work as always man
I literally search anything I can think of about laptop comparisons and this guy always has a video. Not all heroes wear capes✊🏽
My 820m dGPU crying in corner after seeing this!
Wish you can make a comparison video between ryzen 5500u and 4600h. Some articles are showing 5500u beating 4600h in almost all aspects. That seems a bit strange to me, as the power consumption is different.
Legion 5 pro!! When??? Please let there be a review before the preorder begins
No ETA, but doubt I'll get it before you can buy it, I'll probably end up buying it along with everyone else.
@@JarrodsTech nooooo 😩
Oh well..I guess I will just need to buy it immediately and wait for your review to decide if I keep it 🤷🏻♂️😉
Man I love your explanation
This is really cool, but now I really have to see Ryzen 5000 U series versus 11th Gen Intel. I didn't realize the performance increase in the iGPU was so large.
Hey Jarrod! I’m wondering if you can review the Gigabyte G5
Thanks
I can't believe ei missed this video awesome 👍
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Interesting video! I am currently looking at the Eluktronic Promotheus VII with a Ryzen 7 4800H+ RTX3060 and a 17" QHD display. What is your opinion on pairing a last gen processor to a new GPU?
Also: Nice T-Shirt 🤟
Hey Jarrod, do you think the base model of the new Gigabyte G5, with the intel core i5 10500H with the 3060 and a 1080p 240hz screen is worth the $1799 Australian?
We need rembrandt with rdna2 and ddr5. Will be a huuge jump in power and efficiency
Optimized Vega is pretty good tho.
I see RDNA2 being a climb because of bandwidth and cores, not performance per clock.
If it comes from the architecture it will be something borderline insane like infinity cache or an HBM stack on the APU.
Yes, plz make a comparison 5800u/4800u, especially in games.
When will there be reviews of the 5800u?
We want comparison between 4700u and 5800u
Hey Jarrod. I hope you are well. Can you make a video over Asus Tuf A15? (5800H, 3070 maxQ). Thanks a lot!
That moment when an integrated GPU makes your discrete laptop GPU look bad
Where can I buy the XMG w 5800h? Been seeing them everywhere but they aren't available
With such performance leap per generation AMD is going to keep rising prices for their CPU. A couple of years pass, and we will be looking forward to go back to Intel.
I would really appreciate some help and advice here.
I'm having an extremely hard time deciding on a laptop to buy. My budget is $1500 - $2000 though I'm willing to stretch it a little more if I see more value.
I don't play any games whatsoever. I use photoshop a lot and recently I have been interested and learning to do some video editing and audio production with Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Audition. Everything works fine on my current laptop except for Premiere Pro which won't even run. It would also be nice if Photoshop and my audio production software would run faster.
I currently have an Ultrabook 2-in-1 with touch screen (Dell Inspiron 13 7378, 2018 version) and it's very outdated for me and just doesn't meet my needs any more with it's integrated Intel UHD 620 GPU. You have to understand I didn't even pick this laptop to buy it was simply a $400 bargain 2 years ago in a brand new condition and I just ended up liking it until I started looking into video editing. I don't want to invest in a desktop setup now since I move a lot, a laptop is a must for me.
Last year I was very excited about Huawei Matebook Pro X (2020 version) and I'm so glad I didn't buy it! But then I got excited about the new Dell XPS 15 model with touch screen and GTX 1650 Ti until Nvidia announced their RTX 3000 series so I decided to wait for the new laptop models with the new GPUs.
The dilemma I have right now is this:
1- My laptop is not good enough for my needs by any means, I have been waiting for quite sometime now but I need to buy a better performing laptop sooner than later.
2- I use the touch screen on my laptop quite a lot, the tablet mode and being able to flip the screen 360 degrees isn't very important, but I got very used to a touch screen that I'm just having a hard time accept a laptop without on.
3- I considered XPS 17 9700 with RTX 2060 and I love that device, except I don't feel comfortable spending over $3k which is a lot over my budget and I still won't be getting the RTX 300 series.
4- It's really hard to find a laptop that fits these needs. I have recently been interested in the Zephyrus G15 GA503. Yet grew disappointed because of the soldered ram slot (I understand I'll need to upgrade the ram to get a better video editing experience) and the lack of even a bad webcam to be used while in transit in an airport for example. The lack of touch screen isn't a big issue though.
5- I have considered Asus flex 13x but I don't like the proprietary eGPU
I understand I'm comparing apples to oranges when I put tiny sleek Ultrabooks side to side with Performance gaming laptops. I'm just lost between the two. I don't care about FPS since I'm not a gamer. but I need a good display in a sleek portable laptop. What are my options and what're you suggestions?
Should I get something of what's available now? (and what would that be?) or should I wait a bit more for new things that might come out soon? (Will Dell even make a new XPS with RTX 300 series this year?)
Thank you for reading and for any replies in advance!
is it doable for Battery tests regardless of the original size, you cap the battery into the same start using a charging threshold?. For instance, there are two laptops one with 1000 Mah and another with 800 Mah. set the former to an 80% charging limit to make them seem the same in size so then compare how the performance per watt
Should have added intel 11gen for comparison. Edit: for sure more reviews like that please. igpu is great content for gaming on the go when you can't plug in
RDNA APUs seem so far away given the huge time to market probably required for a new iGPU and other features but 15% average improvement in gaming is a lot better than expected with a mere clockspeed boost.
How to disable the discrete gpu and will it really affect battery life ?
i swear to god i can see Jarrod with a viking helmet and an axe screaming his battle cry
Watching your review videos gives better picture than others reviewer's video
Can you make video on Asus Vivobook Pro 14
can you do a 4k editing with the r7 5800h and iGPU? looking forward on the Asus Vivobook Pro 14 OLED - Ryzen 7 5800H
Would you recommend the 5800h if I’m playing games such as League and Valorant? Lenovo slim 7 pro is what I’m looking at
Hi jarrod where do you buy your metal t shirts?
Will the Tiger Lake H with 8 cores outperform the current Zen 3 processors in games due to higher single threaded performance? I just want to get the best processor for my future laptop.
Honestly, this video is nice, but a 5000U series igpu comparison would be much more useful because those laptops mostly don't get mx series graphics
I'm actually surptized the 4800H isnt just a 4800G/4750G/GE clocked lower, i didnt realise the 35w 4750GE not only has more VegaCUs but also clocks them higher
Day 73 of asking Jarrod to include Destiny 2 in benchmarks
I need help, I have a budget of 1.3k to 1.6k, what laptop should I get? Any recommendations? I'll use it for gaming and for work.
Im most curious about the igpu performance difference in a u series amd processor vs a h series. For exanple 5800h vs 5500u
I'm lost between the new zephyrus g15/strix g15/legion 5 pro all rtx 3060. Can't wait for you to review them!
Can't wait to get them!
its probably worth going for the cheapest system but opt for the 3070.
@@Supcharged i just want the most "durable" and reliable system that will last me my 4 years of college. My helios 300 2019 broke only after one year. Never again buying an acer product. Thanks for the advice though.
@@eliefares2755 if its for college you want big battery and portability. So zephyrus g15
@@Supcharged Yes i was kinda thinking the same. I'll wait for the benchmarks. Thank you!
I love watching this mans videos
is it ok if i crypto mine on my legion 5 with a rtx 2060
Do these graphics run at full power (45W) on battery too?
Hi, I hope you can assist me. I have an ASUS Strix G513 G15 (Ryzen 7 4800H / RTX 3050 / 8GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM), but in CSGO all I am getting is 70 - 120 fps. What can I do about this? How were you able to get the 150+ fps?
Jarrod, should I wait for 5800h 5600h to be available for a school laptop or should I just get the 4000 series laptops?
15% faster for 20-30% more money? I'm happy with my laptop thank you
Integrated vega gpu perf is the same as it has always been. zen+ to zen2 to zen3 = pretty much the same perf. had an 3200g and it performed pretty much the same as any other vega igpu, including my 4900hx which is an vega 8 ie the same as 3200g but because of 7nm lithography is capable of reaching higher frequencies. my 4900hx perform spot on as the 5800h and it is only 14" :P
I test my igpus at 1080p and the perf is not that bad, 35-75fps and no stuttering even though the fps can fluctuate from scene to scene. running at 720p simply exaggerates the differences when in reality the perf delta is like 2-5fps at most.
Jarrod lookin clean rocking dat Amon Amarth shirt! Good to see for sure!
Will the omen 15 get 2021 version
they have integrated graphics? so I can save battery by not using the gpu? like an intel one? someone helpppppp
Can you buy xmg in usa ?
Good evening gentlemen
When are you going to do a review on a tuf a15(2021)?
ı think lenovo legion 5 pro is better choice
@@cybertg1041 indeed it is a better choice, but it won't be arriving to where i live till june or later on, and i need a laptop for school which is starting in march.
@@chhoursiminh8583 you can use your phone bro. Waiting is better ı think. Better screen and thermal enough for 1 month no pc at same price. Legion will available march ı heard
How much battery is saved when you game on integrated graphics?
I really want you to check out that new MSI GP66 Leopard with 3070
R7 4800H gtx1650Ti or R5 5600H rtx 3050?? other specs the same.. 60 work,40 game. dont know which to choose. can help me?
Please review Lenovo Thinkbook 16p Gen2
Can the 5800h integrated graphics card be charged at 90w at the same time with an external 4k60hz display?
Hello
Which one is better
Laptops come in higer resolution like 4k 120hz or 1440p 165hz
And if you need to play a ganes with higer fps
and you go down to 1080p resolution
Or laptops come with standard 1080p resolution that has 144hz
Which one is better ???
Please answer my query. I have a choice between 2 laptops. One has Ryzen 7 4800H+GTX 1650 and the other one has Ryzen 7 5700U with Integrated graphics. Which one should I buy? I don't do much gaming but I don't want a laggy laptop. Battery life should be decent
Tnx bro
I feel like there is a lot of echo in his videos because the mic is probably placed near a hard wall and the sound waves are bouncing
would really help if you could start adding Valorant in your game comparisons as it is a very common fps title
Honestly valorant can be ran on literally anything, so kind of pointless to include it.
Hi Jarrod. I'm currently thinking about buying a gaming pc or a gaming laptop, but I don't know which one I should pick. I don't want to spend too much on it, but I want it to be reliable and to be able to run most games smoothly. I'm seriously considering the option of buying the Lenovo Legion 5, as you've already done many videos on it, and you've shown it's an amazing laptop that isn't that expensive. However, I'll also use it for other things, such as school work and video calls, so I'm a bit worried about the Camera's quality. I really want to know what's your suggestion.
Hello
What is your budget for a laptop?
I can find you one for any budget
@@random_5130 Thanks, man. Anyway, I have been saving money since last year to buy the PS5, and I currently have about 810 euros. However, my father recently said he'll buy the PS5 himself, which means that I can use my money on something else. Granted, I'll still have to buy the PS5 games myself, but as the PS5 stocks are really low rn, it will take a long time before I get one. Despite the money I have saved, I can pay more than that, so my budget would be a little over 1000. It doesn't need to be a laptop, so if you think a pc is better I'm fine with it.
@@henriquequintas7262 I would recommend the Asus TUF RTX 3060 model or the Gigabyte G5.
I would go with the G5 because it has a 240hz ips panel and I bet that the G5 will have a higher rtx 3060 wattage than the Asus.
They’re both going to be great laptops though. I would go for one of them.
Also, they’re 900 euros each.
@@henriquequintas7262 or another thing you could do is try to find a cheap RTX 3070 laptop if you’re willing to spend more
@@random_5130 How much more? If the quality difference is significant, I don't mind spending more as long as it doesn't get too much more expensive.
Comparison of the igpu from other of Jarrod's videos:
Shadow of the tomb raider (720p highest settings):
4800H-28fps avg. (7gpu cores)
5800H-33fps avg. (8gpu cores)
i7 10875H-9fps avg. (something ancient)
i7 1165G7-62fps avg. (intel Xe graphics)
i know its hard to compare fps from different videos, etc, but it looks like the Xe graphics are quite good.... Too bad the price will be generally higher, and almost always paired with a discrete Gpu.
When will they learn to make a decent entry level cpu with decent graphics like the Xe but for budget laptops?
Would love to know how the 5800h is with games like stellaris and hearts of iron 4
Can you please compare it with latest macbook air m1 gpu
Can u make a review about the Asus tuf dash FX516PR
I only wonder how much power from the wall will consume nv3000 at the lowest setting. iGPU is at 66W. What is more efficient.
I want to know whose better 5800h ryzen igpu or 11800h intel igpu?
And here me waiting for legion 5 ryzen 5 4600h Variant to available on right price!
plz show some 3060 laptops too!
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If i disabled the discrete graphics when i'm not playing will it affect battery life ?
your laptop probably don't use discrete grafics when you not playing but
you can change some power settings and improve the battery life
Haven't watched the video but I think its not significant
EDIT: ITS SIGNIFICANT GO WATCH
Jarrod is one of the most human i have seen on TH-cam!
How about 1080p?
Intel iGPUs comparison?
That moment when integrated graphics are performing better than base PS4 👀
ps4 has integrated graphisc too
@@cybertg1041 Yeah
when's the x13
please review the 4600 vs 5600 too
Why it was tested in 720p? Does igpu cannot play in 1080p?
The reason for this is mentioned at 1:44
I wish they gave integrated GPUs the dedicated treatment. 10%-15% improvement is already bad enough, but when all it can do still is 720p might as well just used a low TDP external GPU. It's going to be 2030 by the time we see 1080p 40fps on games released today.
I have a budget of $1300 . Which laptop should I buy? I love gaming and designing btw