Thanks for having deals for Australia, Canada, Germany, India and UK!! I can't believe I missed this in the videos. Thanks to the people that made this happen.
my biggest issue with the lenovo is I wish it had atleast one thunderbolt port, would have been nice for future proofing if I want to get a thunderbolt dock, but then the legion slim 7 does not have an ethernet port which I use all the time both at home and also at my workplace
Jarrod i am desperately in need of your advice. I want to buy a legion pro 5i with 14900hx and rtx4070. I am scared that the temps on the i9 cpu will be crazy hot, do you have any experience with this cpu ?. If it is not good ,what is your opinion and what cpu should i choose for gaming which will not run extremely hot ? Please help me, i would really appreciate your advice
I so appreciate your reasonable and fair explanations. So many other channels talk about how one laptop "destroyed" and "defeated" the other in performance tests that are less than 15 percent different. Here you attribute some of the difference to just luck (i.e. better silicon). And you could have really been tough on that Legion's screen, which is so much worse in every measurable way than the Helios. However, you keep pointing out that Lenovo offers another display option that will likely be comparable to the Helios' screen. Thanks, JT, for another great video. Have a great weekend man.
@@divakaranmano5878 that is a plus point, which is better for content creators and others not for gamers as it dosent really impact anything, cause gen 4 ssd it has i very fast
Hey Jarrod ! I have a Lenovo 5 Pro for over 2 years now and everything was amazing with it : gaming, productivity, 3d modeling. But like a month after the end of the minimal warranty, things started to go south : some keys of the keyboard failing to respond consistently, all the usb ports completely being useless except for charging devices... I took a warranty long enough so I hope that Lenovo will make it work again (amazing after-sale service though), but still I thought to give you my personal feedback on that beast that the Lenovo 5 Pro is (or was for now..).
As a computer shop employee, I often test new gaming laptops during my free time to provide accurate recommendations to our customers. Based on my observations, models from Acer, Asus, and MSI (High End) consistently perform well under continuous load. However, laptops from Lenovo, Dell, and HP tend to experience a noticeable drop in performance over time, sometimes even causing lag during gameplay.
ive used both msi and lenovo laptops and for some reason msi is the one that drops in performance the most, it also doesnt release the full potential of the hardware for some reason so i have a strong preference for lenovo laptops because theyre reliable although more expensive in my region
That's just soo subjective. There's no way you tested every versions lmao 😂 Lenovo is literally one of the current best pick for budget gaming rn and also their high ends gaming laptops performance are insane.
@@DHell-n8i every laptop in the market will be loud, but it´s better loud and not burned like a sausage in hot car oil. PD: use headphones if you can afford a set with noice cancelling.
I also have last years’s Predator Helios Neo 16 with i7 and 4060. It plays any game. However the fan can run quite loud and it’s quite bulky and heavy. Apart from this performance is good.
5:10 I'd argue that the helios should get a *higher* score because of the torx screws since they are way less likely to strip and so are more suited for being unscrewed and re-screwed repeatedly.
I bought Acer Helios Neo 16 i7 14700hx and RTX 4060 Version. I wanted to go with Legion for the same specs but the only thing that stopped me from purchasing Legion was that it doesn't have Thunderbolt ports. It's 2024 and even $800 - $1000 laptops come with at least 1 thunderbolt Port. I don't understand why Lenovo chose to not give Thunderbolt port in their laptops this year where as every other Brand is considering giving it away in their hier tier Gaming Laptops 🥲 Personally I am already happy with my Acer Helios Neo 16 since it's my first Gaming Laptop and Performance that offers this device is more than enough for me for Works like doing After Effects and Premier Pro and Davinci Resolve. I rarely do gaming 😅 It would be so hactic for me on the Legion because of its too much configurable settings in the Lenovo Vantage Software. Sometimes simple is better over lots of customisation for Content Creators 😅
I bought the legion one mainly because of the design and the keyboard. Basically all the specs of each laptop with similar price ranges are kind of the same anyway. But I do wish I had thunderbolt 4 'cause what's the point of having an i9 without it. Then again they're cutting on cost.
Do you have the 2024 acer predator Helios Neo 16 if you have it plz tell me how's the battery backup for it while gaming and normal usage cause I saw on the reviews and videos it has terrible battery backup
Made my purchase based on videos like this and I am quite happy with my Lenovo Legion 5i pro. The 230 hz Lenovo display is awesome but I assume the 165 is fine too. I consider Jarrods tech to be my foreign brother as we both like gaming laptops and metal music. Another great video as always.
currently using lenovo legion 5 pro ( R7 RTX3060 ) and i would choose lenovo legion series anytime anyday of the year , solid choice and the best laptops since RTX3060 hands down .
Saaaaame, 5800h + 3060, legion 5 pro, have it for 2+ years, work during the day, gaming at night so its on for around 12 hours a day, very pleased with it, best choice Ive ever made
Hi jarrod, thanks to your in-depth reviews. I got myself legion pro 5i 2024 model (idk why but 2024 was cheaper than 2023 model) and its a real beast of a system. A huge upgrade from my i5-10210u laptop. Thank you for your videos. they really helped me pick a good system in my budget.
@@josephread8072 bruh mine was continuously thermal throttling, had to return it. The customer service experience was literal dogshit, had to mail them like 100 emails and continuously threaten to sue them in consumer court for them to take some action. As of now they are ghosting me and I am waiting for my refund. Don't buy from the Lenovo website, you will regret it. The laptop itself is good but the thermals are shit especially if you live in a hot country like me (India)
The Acer keyboard has much better travel and tactile feedback. Having Multiple Scleroses I struggle to type on the Legion. This is probably only important to developers and less so for gamers.
Singapore, Both prices are similar. Acer is more likely to get a discount and sometimes comes with a free 16GB RAM upgrade. Lenovo currently have a i7-14th HX, 32GB, 1TB + with 240Hz monitor SKU in Singapore, no major discount yet.
In terms of pcmark 10 test on my Helios neo 14900 4070 compared with test result of legion 14900 4070 in the famous website “notebook “ review , Helios neo is better with Pcmark 10 score reach 9100 while legion remains less 9000, where there is about 3% to 5% gap between them. In game, the speed of my neo even reach 8000, I can not believe my eyes. The popular Ssd speed read test indicates that my neo is over unbelievable 7000, while its write speed is also amazing fast than most ssd including legion 5 pro. But its 4K read and write speed is 10% to 15% slow than legion 14900 4070.
Hey Jarrod, recently a lot of Lenovo's LOQ lineup are facing motherboard dead issue, can you make a video covering this topic? Its a very serious issue and in one case even the replacement motherboard died.
Source? First I'm hearing of it, so I can't exactly make a video about something I know nothing about. How many is "a lot"? Update 5 days later: I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
@@JarrodsTechthe r/lenovoloq subreddit has posts everyday about it, as well as the discord server. Everyone’s guess is a bad batch was sent out. Also had to return mine after problems on day 5.
@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod there have been many cases in India , you can see on reddit many users Posting about motherboard dead issues in Lenovo LOQ, especially in hx series of 13 th 14th gen and even some 12th gen . Apparently as here you mentioned that lenovo pushed it's CPU wattage to 70w 80w , it does in these lenovo loq models too and as new lenovo loq is not having that good of cooling for these hx series laptops, and these motherboard in Lenovo LOQ is not having that ptm paste which is used in legion model , All in all lenovo loq models are prone to motherboard dead issues and company is refusing to make a public comment, please look into this. And even here in India lenovo has replaced some motherboards with refurbished ones causing them to die again in few cases users have mentioned same laptop having motherboard dead 2-3 times then after pushing much they refunded otherswise it's havoc.
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My Legion 5 Pro recently died and first thing I noticed was tons of posts on Reddit with the same issue all within the same month
So basically the only real difference is the brand, even if this Legion also had the same screen as the Helios. I'd say pick whichever is cheaper in your region.
Finally pulled the trigger and got a Legion 5 pro with RTX 4070 it has amazing build quality and runs great. I got it on sale for $1450 with tax. This is my first legitimate pc gaming set up. I’m extremely pleased with it. Lenovo has a premium look and feel.
I find torx screws so much better than phillips. Phillips screws tend to easily break with each failed screwing attempt, while it's very hard to do with torx due to their design.
I currently use a Lenovo Legion bought it in 2019 been a fantastic laptop. I would buy another in a heartbeat except I want a laptop larger than 16in. Leaning towards Asus or MSI
How's the performance after 5 years ? And what about the battery life ? I'm looking forward to buy a legion too but I'm confused between the options right now .
@@amr4336 honestly the laptop has been phenomenal. The build quality on the legions is better than asus and others. One thing I wish Lenovo would do is make a laptop larger than 16 inches. I've decided to build a desktop gaming pc now, will have much more power and any size monitor I want I'm going with 27in 1440p. If in the market for laptop I'd definitely look at the legions
just bought the 23 legion w/ 32gb 5600, 13700hx, 4070, 240hz panel for 1k and love it!! BIOS update somehow has the RAM running at 5600mhz vs 4800mhz that the 13700hx chipset is "supposed" to be limited to...but the BIOS update did remove cpu undervolt and overclock but doesn't bother me too much as the 4070 (UV locked @ 2600mhz core and 8200 on mem) at full tilt usually has the cpu at
@@khurramrashid3074 Microcenter was open box (2 days returned)...and no nothing appeared to be wrong with it...was hovering around 1400 new and maybe 1k open box when I bought 45 days ago....NOW Best Buy has it for 1800 with only 16gigs...So dunno whats up w/ that....Lenovo website isnt bad tho.. Ill keep my eyes open for you? Where are you located (roughly)? and budget? I spent 6 months shopping and never bought a Lenovo before...but I love it...just know its not exactly light....but the trade off is good cooling and build quality...and getting 5600 on the ram with the 13700hx chipset is awesome as free bonus (even if you lose cpu undervolting)...I havent seen ANYWHERE that a 13700HX can do 5600 on the ram...but it absolutely does for some reason...some arbitrary Intel limitation I guess, and the i7-13700HX is PLENTY enough for gaming with the 4070 so not getting the i9-13900HX hasnt bothered me at all.... DEF try to get the 240hz panel tho bc the 165hx panel is much dimmer...350 vs 500 (ish) nits between the two!!
6:38 what do mean by helios has no such feature??? I'm using it and it doesn't even show black screen like other laptops. When power goes screen goes to 60hz mode when power comes it goes 165hz mode.
after watching you're videos i bought acer helios 16 rtx 4070 in discount offer ❤ im loving it .... thank you Jarrod...i still love the old looks of neo 16
Hmmmm, i wonder why Lenovo decided to put the ports on the sides. They were putting them directly in the back with 1 extra USB port on each side. That was the deciding factor for me a couple years ago. I absolutely loved it and couldn't believe how much more convenient they were being on the back instead of being on the sides. Im genuinely surprised they stopped putting the ports on the back and put them on the sides and closer to the front.
because they decided to change their cooling system design, there aren't any spaces for the port since that space is for exhaust and intake fans. I also do really love their old port management though, wish they could change their mind in the newer model 😆 (which is most likely not)
Did you use cooling pads for both laptops while running Cinebench 2024 ? I got i9 14900HX ,but i got a score of 1135 and 73 on CPU multicore and single core respectively. The fans were max and the laptop was on turbo mode. Did i get a defective piece ? What should i do ?
I was doing some window shopping at the mall few hours ago to check if I will buy the legion or the helios. And then you released this video, I might get the legion one. Thanks Jarrod!
I wondered if you can help me with choosing between two models: Lenovo Legion 5i Pro (Core i7-13700, RTX 4060 -240 hz , 1320 euros) and Acer Helios Neo - (Core i9-14900, RTX-4070, -240hz, 1499 euros). Other details are the same. Please appreciate your advice.
9:45, lenovo optimization is a tier above to score good score in CINE24 on battery and also give twice battery life in video. may be legion is running on lower clocks when on battery. 9:02 good CPU clocks ingames . but little lagging behind in games coz most of the power is given to CPU. for a CPU power user and for battery backup for watching video Legion is better coz of clocks. while helios is better for gamers.
Hi, I really appreciate your videos. I wanted to ask you what you think about the Tulpar-Gaming Laptops, which have a pretty good price and just appeared on the market... I'd be very happy about a response :)
Early legion y540 owner here. The fan noise on legion series laptops are really loud not that unbearable. But many times i mistook that noise for rain showers while gaming.
Hello Jarrod, I would like to ask an expert like you a question. Is it safe to play games on modern laptops with an external monitor while the laptop's monitor is closed? Will the laptop overheat? Can this affect the monitor? For example, on a 2024 Acer Predator Helios 16 with a hot i9 14900hx processor. This might be a topic for a new video, thank you.
Also planning on buying a lenovo legion, only stuck on which i should get (i can’t even follow the naming system anymore). Was wondering why you chose 5i (instead of pro 5 slim 5 7i whatever there is). :))
@@uhhhidk8300Price difference. It was best deal I could get, paying few hundreds for pro with same specs was not worth it for me. If I could get 5 pro for good price, I would probably get 2023 model, but Im totally happy with 5i, nothing to complain about. I would say you can't go wrong with any of them, it just depends on your budget and specs you need, just get whatever have best deal with specs you need.After watching many videos I decided to go with rtx 4060 laptop, 4070 with 8gb was not worth it, but 4080 was outside my budget I wanted to spend at the monent. I agree, naming is absolutely terrible, have no idea why they make it so complicated.
Hey Jarrod, I am planning to buy MSI Vector 16hx laptop. I was wondering if it would be possible to know your opinion since I am very confused. The Vector 16 hx has 240 watt power limit (65w cpu + 175w gpu), while the Vector 17 and Raider ge78 have 250 watt power limit (75w cpu + 175w gpu). What kind of performance difference can we expect between vector 16, and vector 17 or raider ge78 due to the 10w difference in power limit? The vector 16 costs 2700$, which is close to my budget, the ge78 costs 3000$, and vector 17 costs 2800$. Is it worth spending the extra amount for additional 10w cpu power? If there isn't major performance difference due to additional 10w power, then I will go for vector 16, since it will be little more portable. It will really help me if you can please give your opinion on this. Thanks a lot in advance
Hi Jarrod can you share your opinion on the MSI Katana 17 ( i7 12650H 4070 240hz QHD), it sells for around 1500$ here while the helios neo 16 is around 1800$, sure helios and legion is better, but is it worth 300$ more in terms of mostly gaming.
Hi Jarrod! I'm in a specs pickle at the moment. It happens that in my country, the Helios Neo 16 with i9 14th gen + 4060 is priced the same as the 2023 Legion 5 Pro with i9 13th gen + 4070. I work from home, but it is mostly office stuff, and when I game I do on a 1080p 144hz monitor. What would be the better pick, hands down? Thanks man!
For me they're basically the same, 14th gen is just a bit bumped up 13th gen, 4070 is almost same as 4060 - because of the power limits you won't see the max potential for both unless you buy a Legion 7i Pro with 4080. The only diff between them is the brand and the design. But I'm a Legion fanboy so I bought me myself a 2023 Legion 5i Pro with max specs (maybe same as one of your choices). It's great so far, I use it for video editing, the 4070 is a bit lacking if you'll be doing 3d stuff or any gpu intensive content creation projects but it plows down games like a snow plow in winter. I'm happy for you whatever you choose man!
hey i was contemplating these two but 4050 versions, but later ended up buying legion 5 pro 4060 version with i7 14650hx, but i have a problem, keyboard lighting options are quite lackluster and vantage software has the legion spectrum just not existing, talked with legion ultimate support, they said that its a vantage software problem that will be fixed with next software update, can you please check if you have the same problem on your legion 5 devices and let me know the vantage version pls, thanks! great comparison though. Lenovo needs to up their keyboard lighting, acer is far better.
Hi Jarrod! I love your videos and am a huge fan of your presentation method. Can you review the new HP Pavilion Plus (2024) 16-ab1000na Laptop - Core Ultra with RTX 4050!
DON'T GIVE UP! You know, I have been using my Dell Inspiron n5010 laptop for 12 years! CPU: i3- m380 (1st gen) GPU: intel hd graphics 500GB HDD 4GB DDR3 With Windos 11 home! (lol) And I still could learn HTML, CSS, JS and Python in programming, and Photoshop, Premiere Pro and Illustrator! And all of Microsoft Office. Sometimes it takes 10 mins to turn on! What I'm trying to say is: Don't give up, don't let anything stop you.
thank you for your videos! Have you considered adding max ram in your reviews? my legion can run up to 64gb, however it runs at a lower speed 5200 rather than the 5600 that the kit can run (cannot adjust in bios or legion vantage as far as i can tell)
I have the legion 5 pro 2023, having issue with the the lenovo vantage notifications icon on the task bar, without anything new or unread inside the app. don't know if its my problem or other people has my same problem, if you have do you have a solution for it?
No sorry, we covered it last year and it's exactly the same just with a "new" 14th gen processor, not enough of a difference to justify spending a week on it.
Hey jarrod can u compare the omen 16 and the lenovo legion pro 5i with the same specs (i7 14700HX + RTX 4060) bcuz I am confused as to which one should I buy ??
Got the helios neo 18 (yes the 18 inch one) with the 240hz qhd+ screen, i9, rtx 4070, 32Gigs of ram and 1TB of storage for 1699, I'd say that's a good deal considering the extra screen size and i9 boost. I had a 16~1700 budget so I think I made a good purchase. Hopefully the temps are even better in the neo 18 cause of its larger build.
Should I buy an i7 13620H + 4060 140w laptop or wait for some time and buy an i7 'x' gen H series + 5050/5060 laptop. Anyone can share your opinion. I am happy to buy immediately or i can wait for sometime until the 5000 series launch. Because its nearly 2 years since the release of the 4000 series. So i don't want to miss out on the new tech GPU. If that is the case will 4000 series laptops prices dip? Then which is good to buy a 4060 or new 5000 series that beat 4060? Very long question huh 😔
Why no one is talking about Intel's 13&14 gen processor's instability problems. It's all over internet but no tech review you tuber is mentioning about it. Both the laps in this video are having high performance 14 gen intel processor.
I’m planning to buy an gaming laptop which one should i prefer Option 1 2024 Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 i9 14900hx 4060 RTX 16 Gb Ram 165hz Screen Option 2 2023 HP Omen 16 i9 13900HX 4060 RTx 16 Ram which is best in terms of Cooling and performance and power and Durability ,TGP And Efficiency please Guide me
In my area Lenovo provides a 300W power supply, does a 230W power supply suck power back up from a full load?Should I test the power of the Lenovo 5i with a 300W power supply?
Hello is there's you guys can recomend some laptop like it using i5 14500HX and best RTX 4060 peformance? I confused to looking to buy laptop 2024 and also i saved my $1500 for newest generation in next 2025(hope for RTX 50 series😆) if there's no best i can buy in 2025 at least i going to buy i5 14500HX and RTX 4060 soo is there recommendation?
Dude Can You Tell Which is Better Lenovo Legion pro 5i or Legion 7i(Any one) Vs Acer predator Helios neo 16 i9 14 gen RTX 4070 Which is better Can anyone help me ! 🤔
Will you help me with better choice? I'm torn between legion 5 with 14650hx and legion pro with 14900hx. Both 32/1tb/4070/240hz. Price is almost the same, I'm worried about 14900hx getting too hot and too loud, also it's an overkill with 4070
legion is great but man theres a cult of them going around invading laptop recommendation circles going legion legion legion, even seeing some people telling others to magically manifest double or triple their budget to buy a legion laptop of the same spec as some other brands available to them (especially in other countries with different prices) At this point its bordering on overrated
What do you mean double budget, i mean legions are in the cheaper side compared to other brand. Also you can't really recommend anything else other than legions in the same class. on the lower class LOQ also dominating only second to victus
@@MishaVarsanyi It gives me 61 Avg FPS in RDR2 on Hightest Graphics in default highest Mode but if I customize it completely (Optimize) it gives me 73 Avg FPS in the same graphics
Trying to find a good laptop undervolting is mandatory nowadays with these high performance chips, didn't know Acer locked it as I know all HX series are undervoltable.
@@lone5463 Yea sure buddy, I believe you. Come to tropical countries with 37-40C weather. I'll give you workloads that'll make it throttle in seconds. Moreover undervolting is simply better for the longevity of the components.
Helios have better cooling imo so that doesn't matter.moreover,i7 isnt that hot And I live in India and the temperatures of Helios is good.(one of my friend has this Helios laptop .) especially if you have in an Ac room.though i9 might get hot.but u can always use cooling pad .i think biggest problem with acer is after sales service.
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Can you review the Lenovo legion 7i pro 2024 please
my biggest issue with the lenovo is I wish it had atleast one thunderbolt port, would have been nice for future proofing if I want to get a thunderbolt dock, but then the legion slim 7 does not have an ethernet port which I use all the time both at home and also at my workplace
@@jcn268 No point, same as last gen but with "new" 14th gen CPU (it's essentially a rename)
Jarrod i am desperately in need of your advice. I want to buy a legion pro 5i with 14900hx and rtx4070. I am scared that the temps on the i9 cpu will be crazy hot, do you have any experience with this cpu ?. If it is not good ,what is your opinion and what cpu should i choose for gaming which will not run extremely hot ?
Please help me, i would really appreciate your advice
Thank you so much for the fan noise comparison :)
I so appreciate your reasonable and fair explanations. So many other channels talk about how one laptop "destroyed" and "defeated" the other in performance tests that are less than 15 percent different. Here you attribute some of the difference to just luck (i.e. better silicon). And you could have really been tough on that Legion's screen, which is so much worse in every measurable way than the Helios. However, you keep pointing out that Lenovo offers another display option that will likely be comparable to the Helios' screen. Thanks, JT, for another great video. Have a great weekend man.
FYI, Thunderbolt costs a lot more than regular type c, and some people have mentioned hidden bios settings in Helios.
Predator Helios Neo 16 using raid 0 SSD, this is ok or not?
@@divakaranmano5878 Yes I heard it supports raid, make sure to check specific model you are buying whether it supports or not
@@divakaranmano5878 that is a plus point, which is better for content creators and others not for gamers as it dosent really impact anything, cause gen 4 ssd it has i very fast
@@divakaranmano5878if you have any other storage then your fine. If not then idk, ur cooked
@@divakaranmano5878 Do u know what type of ssd legion 5 uses?
Hey Jarrod ! I have a Lenovo 5 Pro for over 2 years now and everything was amazing with it : gaming, productivity, 3d modeling. But like a month after the end of the minimal warranty, things started to go south : some keys of the keyboard failing to respond consistently, all the usb ports completely being useless except for charging devices... I took a warranty long enough so I hope that Lenovo will make it work again (amazing after-sale service though), but still I thought to give you my personal feedback on that beast that the Lenovo 5 Pro is (or was for now..).
Had the keyboard issue. Formatting seems to help for the other things
@@Karibo_0 these are my provlems with lenovo too
I had the same experience with an Ideapad but it was due to windows drivers not supported.
As a computer shop employee, I often test new gaming laptops during my free time to provide accurate recommendations to our customers. Based on my observations, models from Acer, Asus, and MSI (High End) consistently perform well under continuous load. However, laptops from Lenovo, Dell, and HP tend to experience a noticeable drop in performance over time, sometimes even causing lag during gameplay.
I am sure it is because of thermal paste they use simply dont last long,
How do you test them? What programme do you use?
ive used both msi and lenovo laptops and for some reason msi is the one that drops in performance the most, it also doesnt release the full potential of the hardware for some reason so i have a strong preference for lenovo laptops because theyre reliable although more expensive in my region
That's just soo subjective. There's no way you tested every versions lmao 😂
Lenovo is literally one of the current best pick for budget gaming rn and also their high ends gaming laptops performance are insane.
as an user of a PH16-71 i can say that Predator is doing everything well, the liquid metal is amazing and the perfomance is impecable.
It's pretty loud tho, I thought it was raining outside for a second.
@@DHell-n8i every laptop in the market will be loud, but it´s better loud and not burned like a sausage in hot car oil.
PD: use headphones if you can afford a set with noice cancelling.
I also have last years’s Predator Helios Neo 16 with i7 and 4060. It plays any game. However the fan can run quite loud and it’s quite bulky and heavy. Apart from this performance is good.
5:10 I'd argue that the helios should get a *higher* score because of the torx screws since they are way less likely to strip and so are more suited for being unscrewed and re-screwed repeatedly.
Exactly what I was looking for.
The best laptop review channel.
I bought Acer Helios Neo 16 i7 14700hx and RTX 4060 Version. I wanted to go with Legion for the same specs but the only thing that stopped me from purchasing Legion was that it doesn't have Thunderbolt ports. It's 2024 and even $800 - $1000 laptops come with at least 1 thunderbolt Port.
I don't understand why Lenovo chose to not give Thunderbolt port in their laptops this year where as every other Brand is considering giving it away in their hier tier Gaming Laptops 🥲
Personally I am already happy with my Acer Helios Neo 16 since it's my first Gaming Laptop and Performance that offers this device is more than enough for me for Works like doing After Effects and Premier Pro and Davinci Resolve. I rarely do gaming 😅
It would be so hactic for me on the Legion because of its too much configurable settings in the Lenovo Vantage Software.
Sometimes simple is better over lots of customisation for Content Creators 😅
same, using the 2023 version i7 and 4050 its really a good laptop, people glaze lenovo just cuz the brand is more well known
I bought the legion one mainly because of the design and the keyboard. Basically all the specs of each laptop with similar price ranges are kind of the same anyway.
But I do wish I had thunderbolt 4 'cause what's the point of having an i9 without it. Then again they're cutting on cost.
Do you have the 2024 acer predator Helios Neo 16 if you have it plz tell me how's the battery backup for it while gaming and normal usage cause I saw on the reviews and videos it has terrible battery backup
@@rajbhopale7742 2023 model, up to 4 hours of battery if watching videos / light office work
@@rajbhopale7742 why would u game without charging? 💀
Normal usage battery backup us around 4 hours
Made my purchase based on videos like this and I am quite happy with my Lenovo Legion 5i pro. The 230 hz Lenovo display is awesome but I assume the 165 is fine too. I consider Jarrods tech to be my foreign brother as we both like gaming laptops and metal music. Another great video as always.
14:42 do i hear Asus? I'm not even looking to upgrade my laptop but still watch your reviews. Quality stuff, Top man. Cheers
currently using lenovo legion 5 pro ( R7 RTX3060 ) and i would choose lenovo legion series anytime anyday of the year , solid choice and the best laptops since RTX3060 hands down .
is your CPU Ryzen 7 5800H by any chance?
@@sathirawickramatunga 2021 model is the best for me
Saaaaame, 5800h + 3060, legion 5 pro, have it for 2+ years, work during the day, gaming at night so its on for around 12 hours a day, very pleased with it, best choice Ive ever made
msi katana is better anyway
@@sathirawickramatunga Yes
Hi jarrod, thanks to your in-depth reviews. I got myself legion pro 5i 2024 model (idk why but 2024 was cheaper than 2023 model) and its a real beast of a system. A huge upgrade from my i5-10210u laptop.
Thank you for your videos. they really helped me pick a good system in my budget.
I ordered the same laptop ❤
how is the battery backup BTW
is it good?
how is this now?
@@josephread8072 bruh mine was continuously thermal throttling, had to return it.
The customer service experience was literal dogshit, had to mail them like 100 emails and continuously threaten to sue them in consumer court for them to take some action.
As of now they are ghosting me and I am waiting for my refund. Don't buy from the Lenovo website, you will regret it. The laptop itself is good but the thermals are shit especially if you live in a hot country like me (India)
The Acer keyboard has much better travel and tactile feedback. Having Multiple Scleroses I struggle to type on the Legion. This is probably only important to developers and less so for gamers.
Singapore, Both prices are similar. Acer is more likely to get a discount and sometimes comes with a free 16GB RAM upgrade. Lenovo currently have a i7-14th HX, 32GB, 1TB + with 240Hz monitor SKU in Singapore, no major discount yet.
its good to buy laptop in singapore, meanwhile in indonesia too much meh, higher price, came late, kinda lower spec, ect
Looks like Helios is better when my first priority is better performance for creation rather than design and key placement. I might go with Helios.
In terms of pcmark 10 test on my Helios neo 14900 4070 compared with test result of legion 14900 4070 in the famous website “notebook “ review , Helios neo is better with Pcmark 10 score reach 9100 while legion remains less 9000, where there is about 3% to 5% gap between them.
In game, the speed of my neo even reach 8000, I can not believe my eyes.
The popular Ssd speed read test indicates that my neo is over unbelievable 7000, while its write speed is also amazing fast than most ssd including legion 5 pro. But its 4K read and write speed is 10% to 15% slow than legion 14900 4070.
Hey Jarrod, recently a lot of Lenovo's LOQ lineup are facing motherboard dead issue, can you make a video covering this topic? Its a very serious issue and in one case even the replacement motherboard died.
Yes exactly
Please Jarrod make some comment on this issue
Source? First I'm hearing of it, so I can't exactly make a video about something I know nothing about. How many is "a lot"?
Update 5 days later: I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
@@JarrodsTechthe r/lenovoloq subreddit has posts everyday about it, as well as the discord server. Everyone’s guess is a bad batch was sent out. Also had to return mine after problems on day 5.
@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod there have been many cases in India , you can see on reddit many users Posting about motherboard dead issues in Lenovo LOQ, especially in hx series of 13 th 14th gen and even some 12th gen .
Apparently as here you mentioned that lenovo pushed it's CPU wattage to 70w 80w , it does in these lenovo loq models too and as new lenovo loq is not having that good of cooling for these hx series laptops, and these motherboard in Lenovo LOQ is not having that ptm paste which is used in legion model ,
All in all lenovo loq models are prone to motherboard dead issues and company is refusing to make a public comment, please look into this.
And even here in India lenovo has replaced some motherboards with refurbished ones causing them to die again in few cases users have mentioned same laptop having motherboard dead 2-3 times then after pushing much they refunded otherswise it's havoc.
My Legion 5 Pro recently died and first thing I noticed was tons of posts on Reddit with the same issue all within the same month
Got the Legion 5 15ARP8 model for $800 from Micro Center on Black Friday. What a steal for a Ryzen 7 and 4060 combo. Very few drawbacks for the price
Thank you, Jared, for this comparison! I know these are a ton of work and i really appreciate it. I'm sure many others do too
Always loved Lenovo's gaming laptop designs.
So basically the only real difference is the brand, even if this Legion also had the same screen as the Helios. I'd say pick whichever is cheaper in your region.
Design language is different tok
I ordered Predator Helios Neo with i9 14900hx and rtx4060 at 1299 dollars
where did you order
@@manongkodakerostudio bestbuy, now in sale its just 1049 USD
Finally pulled the trigger and got a Legion 5 pro with RTX 4070 it has amazing build quality and runs great. I got it on sale for $1450 with tax. This is my first legitimate pc gaming set up. I’m extremely pleased with it. Lenovo has a premium look and feel.
does it have heating issues? like are the temps good for gaming ?
Hehehe. Found another microcenter guy 😂
What should I do if I am getting acer with same specs as legion but 15-20k cheaper than legion
Fenboi
See how long it lasts? 😂
Bought the Legion Slim 5 with RTX 4070 32GB RAM and Ryzen 7 8845hs. Very happy with it!!
May i know why you choose the slim version ? Do u think dust can easily get or not since the design infront hv many tiny hole
I find torx screws so much better than phillips. Phillips screws tend to easily break with each failed screwing attempt, while it's very hard to do with torx due to their design.
I currently use a Lenovo Legion bought it in 2019 been a fantastic laptop. I would buy another in a heartbeat except I want a laptop larger than 16in. Leaning towards Asus or MSI
How's the performance after 5 years ? And what about the battery life ? I'm looking forward to buy a legion too but I'm confused between the options right now .
@@amr4336 honestly the laptop has been phenomenal. The build quality on the legions is better than asus and others. One thing I wish Lenovo would do is make a laptop larger than 16 inches. I've decided to build a desktop gaming pc now, will have much more power and any size monitor I want I'm going with 27in 1440p. If in the market for laptop I'd definitely look at the legions
Thanks needed this
just bought the 23 legion w/ 32gb 5600, 13700hx, 4070, 240hz panel for 1k and love it!! BIOS update somehow has the RAM running at 5600mhz vs 4800mhz that the 13700hx chipset is "supposed" to be limited to...but the BIOS update did remove cpu undervolt and overclock but doesn't bother me too much as the 4070 (UV locked @ 2600mhz core and 8200 on mem) at full tilt usually has the cpu at
Where did you buy it from?
@@khurramrashid3074 Microcenter was open box (2 days returned)...and no nothing appeared to be wrong with it...was hovering around 1400 new and maybe 1k open box when I bought 45 days ago....NOW Best Buy has it for 1800 with only 16gigs...So dunno whats up w/ that....Lenovo website isnt bad tho.. Ill keep my eyes open for you?
Where are you located (roughly)? and budget?
I spent 6 months shopping and never bought a Lenovo before...but I love it...just know its not exactly light....but the trade off is good cooling and build quality...and getting 5600 on the ram with the 13700hx chipset is awesome as free bonus (even if you lose cpu undervolting)...I havent seen ANYWHERE that a 13700HX can do 5600 on the ram...but it absolutely does for some reason...some arbitrary Intel limitation I guess, and the i7-13700HX is PLENTY enough for gaming with the 4070 so not getting the i9-13900HX hasnt bothered me at all....
DEF try to get the 240hz panel tho bc the 165hx panel is much dimmer...350 vs 500 (ish) nits between the two!!
6:38 what do mean by helios has no such feature??? I'm using it and it doesn't even show black screen like other laptops. When power goes screen goes to 60hz mode when power comes it goes 165hz mode.
My helios do same like the video always run on 165hz all the time, what settings i need to do?
It’s so it’s saves battery when not plugged in
after watching you're videos i bought acer helios 16 rtx 4070 in discount offer ❤ im loving it .... thank you Jarrod...i still love the old looks of neo 16
for how much?
Great choice
Thanks for the video,Jarrod. I gonna get Lenovo Legion soon
i stick with the helios any day, 65w is just enough for light work if u had to move it around..is a personal case scenario of how much u move around
Hmmmm, i wonder why Lenovo decided to put the ports on the sides. They were putting them directly in the back with 1 extra USB port on each side.
That was the deciding factor for me a couple years ago. I absolutely loved it and couldn't believe how much more convenient they were being on the back instead of being on the sides. Im genuinely surprised they stopped putting the ports on the back and put them on the sides and closer to the front.
because they decided to change their cooling system design, there aren't any spaces for the port since that space is for exhaust and intake fans.
I also do really love their old port management though, wish they could change their mind in the newer model 😆 (which is most likely not)
Did you use cooling pads for both laptops while running Cinebench 2024 ? I got i9 14900HX ,but i got a score of 1135 and 73 on CPU multicore and single core respectively. The fans were max and the laptop was on turbo mode.
Did i get a defective piece ? What should i do ?
I was doing some window shopping at the mall few hours ago to check if I will buy the legion or the helios. And then you released this video, I might get the legion one. Thanks Jarrod!
have 13700hx version, love mine!!
Predator is better. But it’s more bulky and heavy.
Been planning on taking rog strix g6 , i7 .... Is there a better one that I should consider ??
Hey Jarrod, Will you do a review of the 2024 Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16"? I want to know if battery life has improved from last year's version.
Just watch @tech guy beau
looking forward to jarods best budget gaming laptops of 2024 video this year
It's nice that you mentioned Linux compatibility.
Hi! Can you help me decide on a legion 5 4060 or an acer 4070….
(Both are 2024), thanks!
Are you gonna make a video about any laptop without an i-gpu?
I wondered if you can help me with choosing between two models: Lenovo Legion 5i Pro (Core i7-13700, RTX 4060 -240 hz , 1320 euros) and Acer Helios Neo - (Core i9-14900, RTX-4070, -240hz, 1499 euros). Other details are the same. Please appreciate your advice.
obviously the acer.
The Acer, no question
The battery limit thing is a must for me on any gaming laptop
9:45, lenovo optimization is a tier above to score good score in CINE24 on battery and also give twice battery life in video. may be legion is running on lower clocks when on battery. 9:02 good CPU clocks ingames . but little lagging behind in games coz most of the power is given to CPU. for a CPU power user and for battery backup for watching video Legion is better coz of clocks. while helios is better for gamers.
So do you think that the legion 5 pro with similar spec outclass the acer neo 16?
Hey Jarrod, how many USB type A ports would I need for a gaming laptop ?
legion series has been real good if you get the right configuration
Hey jarrod should i go with legion7 4080 variant or anyother ?
Can you often make comparisons like this with other laptop brands with the same specifications? 🙏
I want to, it's just hard to get them all the same or similar specs! I want to do Legion 7 vs Zephyrus G16 next.
@@JarrodsTechok thank you for your hardwork
You said that the Legion’s webcam was worse than the Helios’ but in the summary part at the end you said the opposite 🤔.
Hi, I really appreciate your videos.
I wanted to ask you what you think about the Tulpar-Gaming Laptops, which have a pretty good price and just appeared on the market...
I'd be very happy about a response :)
Can you please make a video with best laptops for RTX 4050 ?
Early legion y540 owner here. The fan noise on legion series laptops are really loud not that unbearable. But many times i mistook that noise for rain showers while gaming.
Legions are louder now, but yes in the past they were some of the quieter options based on the data collected at jarrods.tech/laptop-fan-noise/
My legion 5 was quiet as long i dont touch legion fan control
Last year legion5 pro is awesome. Glad I bought it then. This year there is no changes in the laptops except that gimmick 14000's cpu.
The most detailed review I've come across, straight to the point. Highly professional.
Thank you.
Hello Jarrod, I would like to ask an expert like you a question. Is it safe to play games on modern laptops with an external monitor while the laptop's monitor is closed? Will the laptop overheat? Can this affect the monitor? For example, on a 2024 Acer Predator Helios 16 with a hot i9 14900hx processor. This might be a topic for a new video, thank you.
Lol that will put it in sleep which will not allow you to use the external monitor
He always stress test the laptop with closed lid on reviews
Glad I made right decision and bought 2 days ago Lenovo Legion 5i 2024, thanks.
Also planning on buying a lenovo legion, only stuck on which i should get (i can’t even follow the naming system anymore). Was wondering why you chose 5i (instead of pro 5 slim 5 7i whatever there is). :))
@@uhhhidk8300Price difference. It was best deal I could get, paying few hundreds for pro with same specs was not worth it for me. If I could get 5 pro for good price, I would probably get 2023 model, but Im totally happy with 5i, nothing to complain about. I would say you can't go wrong with any of them, it just depends on your budget and specs you need, just get whatever have best deal with specs you need.After watching many videos I decided to go with rtx 4060 laptop, 4070 with 8gb was not worth it, but 4080 was outside my budget I wanted to spend at the monent. I agree, naming is absolutely terrible, have no idea why they make it so complicated.
How is it going
Hey Jarrod, I am planning to buy MSI Vector 16hx laptop. I was wondering if it would be possible to know your opinion since I am very confused. The Vector 16 hx has 240 watt power limit (65w cpu + 175w gpu), while the Vector 17 and Raider ge78 have 250 watt power limit (75w cpu + 175w gpu). What kind of performance difference can we expect between vector 16, and vector 17 or raider ge78 due to the 10w difference in power limit? The vector 16 costs 2700$, which is close to my budget, the ge78 costs 3000$, and vector 17 costs 2800$. Is it worth spending the extra amount for additional 10w cpu power? If there isn't major performance difference due to additional 10w power, then I will go for vector 16, since it will be little more portable. It will really help me if you can please give your opinion on this. Thanks a lot in advance
It is said by others that Msi is too noisy to bear
What is your room temperature while testing it?
I think you got it wrong in here :11:46 isn't should be the other way around?
G16 vs Legion 7i when ? 👀👀
Legion 5pro 4050 i9 or asus rog strix g16 4060 i9 for 270$ more?
Hi Jarrod can you share your opinion on the MSI Katana 17 ( i7 12650H 4070 240hz QHD), it sells for around 1500$ here while the helios neo 16 is around 1800$, sure helios and legion is better, but is it worth 300$ more in terms of mostly gaming.
Spend 300 more and save yourself a lot of hassles
avoid MSI if you want to use laptop for long term
Hi Jarrod!
I'm in a specs pickle at the moment. It happens that in my country, the Helios Neo 16 with i9 14th gen + 4060 is priced the same as the 2023 Legion 5 Pro with i9 13th gen + 4070.
I work from home, but it is mostly office stuff, and when I game I do on a 1080p 144hz monitor.
What would be the better pick, hands down? Thanks man!
For me they're basically the same, 14th gen is just a bit bumped up 13th gen, 4070 is almost same as 4060 - because of the power limits you won't see the max potential for both unless you buy a Legion 7i Pro with 4080.
The only diff between them is the brand and the design. But I'm a Legion fanboy so I bought me myself a 2023 Legion 5i Pro with max specs (maybe same as one of your choices). It's great so far, I use it for video editing, the 4070 is a bit lacking if you'll be doing 3d stuff or any gpu intensive content creation projects but it plows down games like a snow plow in winter.
I'm happy for you whatever you choose man!
@@yesyesyesnoooo7762 thanks man I appreciate your answer from the bottom of my kernell 🤖
hey i was contemplating these two but 4050 versions, but later ended up buying legion 5 pro 4060 version with i7 14650hx, but i have a problem, keyboard lighting options are quite lackluster and vantage software has the legion spectrum just not existing, talked with legion ultimate support, they said that its a vantage software problem that will be fixed with next software update, can you please check if you have the same problem on your legion 5 devices and let me know the vantage version pls, thanks! great comparison though. Lenovo needs to up their keyboard lighting, acer is far better.
@JML-w8l hey no issues. performing amazing in game!
Jarrod where is that background from on the legion?
Hi, though I know it's differ from places to places. But generally which one have better after-sales/servicing support?
lenovo in india
Lenovo
Bro been waiting for zephyrus g16 4070 varient
Btw love from india❤
Hi Jarrod! I love your videos and am a huge fan of your presentation method. Can you review the new HP Pavilion Plus (2024) 16-ab1000na Laptop - Core Ultra with RTX 4050!
DON'T GIVE UP!
You know, I have been using my Dell Inspiron n5010 laptop for 12 years!
CPU: i3- m380 (1st gen)
GPU: intel hd graphics
500GB HDD
4GB DDR3
With Windos 11 home! (lol)
And I still could learn HTML, CSS, JS and Python in programming, and Photoshop, Premiere Pro and Illustrator! And all of Microsoft Office. Sometimes it takes 10 mins to turn on! What I'm trying to say is: Don't give up, don't let anything stop you.
thank you for your videos!
Have you considered adding max ram in your reviews? my legion can run up to 64gb, however it runs at a lower speed 5200 rather than the 5600 that the kit can run (cannot adjust in bios or legion vantage as far as i can tell)
I have the legion 5 pro 2023, having issue with the the lenovo vantage notifications icon on the task bar, without anything new or unread inside the app. don't know if its my problem or other people has my same problem, if you have do you have a solution for it?
Hey Jarrod, Shouldn't it be 1600p instead of 1440p in gaming benchmark? Both have 16:10 screens I believe.
For comparison purposes we do the testing at 1440p, so we can see how every laptop compares to others.
Can you review the Legion Pro 5i? Or is it the same as last year just with 14th Gen cpu?
No sorry, we covered it last year and it's exactly the same just with a "new" 14th gen processor, not enough of a difference to justify spending a week on it.
@@JarrodsTech Thank you.
Hi Jarrod, can you do a review of MSI Raider 18HX?
Trying to get it from MSI at the moment.
Can you compare these with MSI Sword 16 HX. They are offering i7 14700HX with a RTX 4070 at the price of rtx 4060 for the other 2
Hey are you gonna review MSI Crosshair 16 HX 4070 ?
Hey jarrod can u compare the omen 16 and the lenovo legion pro 5i with the same specs (i7 14700HX + RTX 4060) bcuz I am confused as to which one should I buy ??
Probably not as HP are very hard to get anything from. It's taken us months to finally get the Omen 14
@@JarrodsTech I was wondering could u suggest which I can buy from either of the two laptops as for ur experience
Got the helios neo 18 (yes the 18 inch one) with the 240hz qhd+ screen, i9, rtx 4070, 32Gigs of ram and 1TB of storage for 1699, I'd say that's a good deal considering the extra screen size and i9 boost. I had a 16~1700 budget so I think I made a good purchase. Hopefully the temps are even better in the neo 18 cause of its larger build.
I got the neo 16 2023 (used) from ebay with the same specs except having 64 gb ram and 165 hz monitor for 1100 , Do you think it's a good deal?
Should I buy an i7 13620H + 4060 140w laptop or wait for some time and buy an i7 'x' gen H series + 5050/5060 laptop. Anyone can share your opinion. I am happy to buy immediately or i can wait for sometime until the 5000 series launch. Because its nearly 2 years since the release of the 4000 series. So i don't want to miss out on the new tech GPU. If that is the case will 4000 series laptops prices dip? Then which is good to buy a 4060 or new 5000 series that beat 4060?
Very long question huh 😔
Do you have any ideea on how to unlock bios advanced mode#2?
I bought Acer predator Neo 18 14900hx 4070 m and I can t undervolt it?!
Why no one is talking about Intel's 13&14 gen processor's instability problems. It's all over internet but no tech review you tuber is mentioning about it. Both the laps in this video are having high performance 14 gen intel processor.
the problems are in the desktop cpus ......the mobile ones in the laptop have no such problem
@@zadregtsl In general it is there but it’s not as common as on the desktop.
I’m planning to buy an gaming laptop which one should i prefer
Option 1 2024 Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 i9 14900hx 4060 RTX 16 Gb Ram 165hz Screen
Option 2 2023 HP Omen 16 i9 13900HX 4060 RTx 16 Ram
which is best in terms of Cooling and performance and power and Durability ,TGP And Efficiency please Guide me
helios is better
Finally the comparison we needed !
In my area Lenovo provides a 300W power supply, does a 230W power supply suck power back up from a full load?Should I test the power of the Lenovo 5i with a 300W power supply?
Did you test with 300 watt....i got to know that it's compatible
Hello is there's you guys can recomend some laptop like it using i5 14500HX and best RTX 4060 peformance? I confused to looking to buy laptop 2024 and also i saved my $1500 for newest generation in next 2025(hope for RTX 50 series😆) if there's no best i can buy in 2025 at least i going to buy i5 14500HX and RTX 4060 soo is there recommendation?
Dude Can You Tell Which is Better Lenovo Legion pro 5i or Legion 7i(Any one)
Vs
Acer predator Helios neo 16
i9 14 gen
RTX 4070
Which is better
Can anyone help me !
🤔
Did you even watch the video?
Will you help me with better choice? I'm torn between legion 5 with 14650hx and legion pro with 14900hx. Both 32/1tb/4070/240hz. Price is almost the same, I'm worried about 14900hx getting too hot and too loud, also it's an overkill with 4070
Watch some reviews about the 14900HX and see the difference. Buy whichever suits your budget
Forgot to ask, what's the price for each?
@@user-pt2el1tt1r 2150usd, in my country those are expensive
legion is great but man theres a cult of them going around invading laptop recommendation circles going legion legion legion, even seeing some people telling others to magically manifest double or triple their budget to buy a legion laptop of the same spec as some other brands available to them (especially in other countries with different prices) At this point its bordering on overrated
What do you mean double budget, i mean legions are in the cheaper side compared to other brand.
Also you can't really recommend anything else other than legions in the same class. on the lower class LOQ also dominating only second to victus
I'm looking for quite laptop with rtx 4090, what do you recommend guys?
Lenovo and ASUS gaming laptops are my favorites in term of build quality. I’ve tried some of them in person. I have a Legion 5 Pro it’s great.
@@mojogustavo336 thanks, but I need a powerful laptop with maximum work culture
this year's lenovo legion looks so clean its actually hard to see that its a gaming laptop and not a high end premium work laptop
Does the hdmi 2.1 support 240hz for a monitor? I bought the legion and have a 240hz screen.
You have to mention the resolution as well, if i remember well hdmi 2.1 supports 4k at 120hz
My screen is only 1080p if i remember correctly.not currently with the monitor. @ImShubhamY
I request you to please review Legion 5i pro 2024 and compare it with Li7
Yes
Could u review the gigabyte aorus 16x 9kg, also I could possibly get a refund on the aorus 16x and get a Acer neo Helios 16, what should I do
What everyone should be aware before buying any gaming laptop is the horrible fan noise. You need headphones
hello can you review the lenovo legion 5 arp8 2023 against the lenovo legion 5 pro?
I'm looking for a budget gaming laptop with mini led display, I'm I asking too much?
Could you test Asus Vivobook 16 with RTX 4060 too?
It's a scam
@@MishaVarsanyi It gives me 61 Avg FPS in RDR2 on Hightest Graphics in default highest Mode but if I customize it completely (Optimize) it gives me 73 Avg FPS in the same graphics
Acer blocks undervolting on their HX units. Complete deal breaker. Undervolting means huge efficiency gains - no performance loss + lower power.
Trying to find a good laptop undervolting is mandatory nowadays with these high performance chips, didn't know Acer locked it as I know all HX series are undervoltable.
I'm using acer Helios 16 from 2023. I've never needed to undervolt it, cooling is good by default.
@@lone5463 Yea sure buddy, I believe you. Come to tropical countries with 37-40C weather.
I'll give you workloads that'll make it throttle in seconds. Moreover undervolting is simply better for the longevity of the components.
Some people have mentioned hidden settings in BIOS of Helios, though others have denied it.
Helios have better cooling imo so that doesn't matter.moreover,i7 isnt that hot And I live in India and the temperatures of Helios is good.(one of my friend has this Helios laptop .) especially if you have in an Ac room.though i9 might get hot.but u can always use cooling pad .i think biggest problem with acer is after sales service.