The Best Resin 3D Printing Tool You've Never Heard Of
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- Tired of the mess that emptying out your resin vat creates? Check out this peristaltic pump which can easily and cleanly remove the resin from your printer without staining your workspace! We explore the pros and cons of this nifty little vacuum.
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Heck yes this is such an awesome idea!! You are 1000% right that this will be great with those bigger machines! Going to order one!
I agree! Like I said, it's gonna take awhile, but you can just work on another printer instead of risk the mess and spill. Worth it to me for sure once I start getting involved in the bigger printing again.
I was thinking something like that would be good for the kickstarter printer you were looking at that you couldnt get full easily.
It's funny, the simple solutions you dont think of until someone else introduces it to you. What a great idea. Thanks Grant! And thanks for passing on the suggestion Danny!
Thanks Grant indeed :) Glad you enjoyed the video!
I’m currently 3D printing peristaltic pumps for a different project but I guess I can make one more. Another idea that came to mind was to make an automatic vat refill system with an arduino.
Ah yes this is a genius idea, I don't print resin for months at a time and just had to empty the Mega 8K's almost FULL vat yesterday. Gonna source one right now lol
Isn't that the way it goes? Fill the vat with real optimism and then... failure that requires you empty a vat with 1L of resin @.@ Hope this helps! Might have better luck with a bigger pump to help suction faster.
I think you're missing the bigger use of these pumps, for the reverse! FILLing your vats with resin especially coupled with a smart switch (just on/off) or with an Arduino for large format you'd never have to worry about an empty vat mid print!
was thinking the same thing
I knew when I posted this video that the comments would make this idea better. Ya’ll rock.
The thumbnail had my brain thinking it was an autofill pump
Tap a hole in the side of the vat if you are feeling froggy
There might be a mechanical solution like the archimedian principle where it will autofill by pressure difference by itself.
This is an absolute game changer!!! I have a very small workspace set up in my laundry room for better ventilation, and having a pump to minimize the mess when cleaning up between prints will be awesome! Thank you for this!
This video is literally saving me so many hours of cleaning time due to spills or just removing and putting the vat back. Thank you so much dear sir.
Game changer, thank you so much. I was always leaving my Elegoo Jupiter sitting for days because I didn't want to do the VAT change and cleanup between prints. Amazing!
Thank you for these great ideas, Danny. As a person who enjoys D&D and painting, but also really enjoys 3D printing as a hobby in and of itself, stuff like this is just so enjoyable to incorporate into my system. :) Thanks for all you do!
Yes! This is a much needed tool! Thank you!
Thanks. Just what I needed!
Oh man, I'm going to order this thing right now. Thank you for posting this.
Peristaltic pumps are incredibly useful. I used to use them in graduate school to make Percoll gradients. Fantastic suggestion for use.
This is a brilliant idea, I've been dumping the resin bin into the bottle. It's messy and risky and I just ordered the pump you suggested. Thank you!
I want to say thank you for all you do for the community or new people learning to 3d print. You take the time for people like me that yes stupid in the lack of what to do. So again thank you.
You aren't stupid at all, Ted - just on a different path of your journey. Keep at it, and have fun! :)
I was just thinking about this. Thanks for the video. I now know it's possible.
Great video
Good idea
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us 🙂
Such a cool video. You're right; this is an AMAZING idea that makes the clean-up so much easier!
Thanks Andrew! Lots of potential here I think!
Strange, I see peristaltic pumps almost every day at work and yet I'd never considered this. Thanks for the tip.
As for something to hold the tube, consider a swing out clip mounted to the hold down clamps.
This is EXACTLY how I felt when Grant suggested the idea casually on that Twitter thread! It was really cool to try it and see it work on something other than clear solution in a lab or something.
Pick up a box of bulldog clips from the office supply store for a couple bucks. They hold securely and you can slip the tubing through the handles to hold it in your funnel.
Danny! Love your vids and your kickstarters. Your stage/background is looking good. Glad to see you making vids still.
Thanks man! For the support and for being here for so long. Means a lot!
Happy to help Danny! What a great solution and for less than $40 come on, that is SO CHEAP! A wonderfully cheap solution for those that want to mess around more than others!
Great video, your editing is on point as always and OMG THAT LIGHTING! Jealous lol. Keep it up and thanks for the shoutout!
I tried looking up the Arduino kits you mentioned and they were almost all more expensive (or just cheaper). That's actually why I tried the more expensive one first!
Oh also - the editing, lighting, and production is my wonderful editor, AJ! He pops up in the comments all the time :D
@@3DPrintedTabletop One day I need to learn to edit... May have to meet him whenever I get to your neck of the woods! One day soon I am hoping!
@@3DPrintedTabletop Yeah that was crazy affordable! Bummed I didnt see it back when we were looking at stuff lol!
Much appreciated! Doing my best :)
You're a godsend, Danny. I've learned so much from your channel
I'm so glad I was able to help. Thanks for the kind words and making my day!
I wonder if you could design a tray that has a resin return that you could attach to the pump's hose.
For that matter, add a float switch and have it automatically refill if it gets low, like the stuff from FormLabs.
I will heart your comment in the hopes that someone else on the internet who is much smart and better than me at this stuff will grant the world a new gift. Thank you for your comment!
I came here to say this^^ you could have with a sensor to check the amount of resin remaining in the vat between layers and a sensor at the top of the tray to make sure any resin doesn't overflow when the print goes back in displacing more resin there could also be a a way have motorized lift in a corner opposite to the return pump tube that lifts the tray just enough to allow most of the resin to flow towards the mouth of the pump tube....
I just ordered my first 3d printer 3 days ago, will have to cnc some hose connector in the tray, I also have a peristatic pump laying around... Will mount the pump inside the enclosure. I'll have to look up "capacitive sensors", there should be something around (and second mod on the tray needed). An ESP32 for driving the pump back and forth, the sensor, and BT or wifi access...
Just need to tilt the whole printer slightly, will call it my "Pisa Tower printer".
BTW: why wasn't that invented before?
I got one of those a month ago for my printer. I’ve used types that let you use one solid hose, so I can have one for resin, one for water, one for IPA, but I still prefer it.
Now that you mention it…it’s a GENIUS idea to have one a different color from the other, or at least use a label or something showing which side goes in and which side goes out. Great idea!
Very nice ill have to check that out
Great topic!
What a fantastic idea!
Looks great. On a side note, I use masking tape on my vats to mask as many surfaces as possible. Makes clean up really easy. I also put masking tape on the edge and to of my build plate.
Danny, This is a great idea that has spawned possibly an even greater idea. I hate removing or adding as well. So my background is in mechanical engineering. and you messing with this pumping system has got me thinking.
I will often leave my resin in the vat for days. or even when you have long prints. I notice the resin really likes to separate, and settle. This pump system could be done as a full time recirculation pump. always keeping the resin in the vat in a better mix. you could add an inline filter to the lines, and constantly remove possible particulate. the filter would work as a mixer as well. You could also add a second line to the input side, with valve to add resin as well as valves on the output side to empty. the hoses could be mounted into the vat on either side to create the flow, just would need some 3D printed clips. or for those with some machining abilities. threaded pipe nipples. I think you would want to get the hoses as low in the vat as possible....
Heck, some very cleaver Electrical Engineering guys could even make this type of system with a level sensor and solenoid valve system that would pull resin directly from a bottle and maintain a constant level of resin in a vat. A little more electrical knowledge and that could add a flow meter to the output and tell you when the filter is plugged, level is too low, etc.
Dual purpose system ,recirculation, empty fill.
Fantastic idea! I'll probably invest in one of these when I nab a larger resin printer one day
Great idea. Will try it. Thoughts on possible improvement: Instead of having the resin pass the pump, I would try to use it to underpressurize the target container and sucking the resin in there („suction trap“). By having one dedicated, short hose (at least for the most often used resins) for that, one might not have to clean as much for the next resin, and thus less resin would have to be wasted.
On the topic of resin printing, maybe you could make a video on your resin printing workflow. The precautions you take to keep things clean and keep resin from getting everywhere. As well as what tools you have on hand for normal use and emergency situations.
I think it could come in handy for emptying the cleaning tank back in to bottles as well, but i would want a float switch that prevents over filling because i know i couldn't pay attention for that long. I guess it might work to clamp the hose so it doesn't go to deep in the tank as well.
Oh man, I can imagine that thing firehosing resin all over the place. LOL.
Good find Danny!
My impression was from experience, I'll leave it at that lol. The other thing: I once accidentally blew old resin into an almost filled VAT (not cat) because I had the directions wrong :X
@@3DPrintedTabletop PLEASE tell me you meant "vat"!
@@Pygar2 That has to be the funniest typo/autocorrect I've ever made 😂
@@3DPrintedTabletop I pictured a cat popping like a pinata, with resin instead of goodies coming out...
seriously genious
Great video
for small vats I recommend 100ml syringe to hand pump the resin. No dangly bits of tubes and wires on the table.
Someone left this comment early on and I fell in love with the idea. I'm absolutely going to try this.
Thank you for this very frugal suggestion!
Use some milliput around the tubing close to the end - you could easily mold it around the tube and push it into the screw on the vat (just get the imprint, don't cement it to your screw)- the weight would hold down the tubing, and it could rest on the screw to stabilize. A wad around the other end could easily have a paperclip inserted in as well, to hang on to your funnel.
The milliput is a great idea, and pretty simple! I might give that a shot!
This is genius!
I was skeptical about the use of this pump when I first got it, at first all it did was add extra steps and cleanup. However, I found the perfect use for it when I filter alcohol. It's great at decanting the alcohol while leaving the nasty gunk I'm trying to filter at the bottom.
Also reallllllly handy if you want to do a resin color swap and lets you do some wild FDM like colour changing prints if you want to get all sorts of wacky with it.
Nice Video! this is the right direction :)
A great idea if you are bored. Instead of simply pouring out and clean, now you have to clean the pump as well :)... thumbs up
Ahhh we in the aquarium industry use these as dosing pumps for slowly auto dosing supplements into our tanks over time to maintain the water / nutrient chemistry in them for plants and corals. Cool!!
Very cool 😎 👌
This seems like exactly what I was looking for to filter out my old IPA since I have 2 gallons that need to be cleaned out.
I'd love to see this used in the reverse direction to feed resin into the vat for large prints. With some Arduino coding to gauge vat level this could be a game changer!!!
Got my first resin printer on order. I wonder if someone could scan the vat then modify it to have a threaded hole in one of the lower corners that you could fit a small needle valve into. You could design the opening of the hole so that it looks like a funnel that tapers towards the fep. Then just squeegee towards that corner to get most out. TH-cam what say you? Oh and then print the new ported vat on the same printer? Would it fit? 🤔 depending on the Thickness of the vat , you might be able to curve part of the hole down below the surface of the fep for a lil gravity feed action. .. OK I'm feeling a new project coming on.
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SOLD! it takes me longer to do it the "pouring" way, because I take my time so i dont have a lot of mess
One time my older brother was 3D printing me a new eyepatch for my ferret (trombone accident) and his resin vat was overflowing and he. told me he wanted something exactly like this! its so crazy that it exists, thanks for letting me know this exists! incriedble..
ok but I want to hear about the ferret and the trombone!
@@Born_Stellar poke eyeball :(
That is exactly how the thread started with @Uncle Jessy and @3DMusketeers. I said “Man, I WISH I had something that did this!” (It was the reverse of an automatic re-filling VAT like some of the bigger resin printers have). Sure enough, Grant said: “That sounds like a peristaltic pump could do that!” Bingo - he was right. :)
The amount of resin you had in the vat is not what I would normally have left after a print has completed, I usually only have a few mm depth of resin left after a print and pouring it into a filter+ funnel is not a problem as everything is contained within a deep tray to contain any spills, which are rare, my biggest problem is forgetting I have gloves on that have resin on the fingers and then go and touch things and mark them with resin
You’re right, and that would probably make this a much better use in that case. Thanks for the comment!
I use a cheap rigid cookie sheet from Walmart lined with blue shop paper towels to transfer from printer to wash station. I'd say I'm 98% successful not getting drips everywhere. This pump idea is intriguing.
I just might have to get this for my dad. He is big into model trains.. he has had his resin printer before I got my first ender 3.. I still only got the 3 ender 3 pros because where I live no good place to vent them.
Let me know if he ends up liking it if you do!
i think the trick would be to have it attached to the vat. cycling and moving the resin i think would be good but i dont know. scrapers and tilting beds are a thing so i figure it might be good. but you could also use this to run the resin through a heating loop. some resins need to be heated to print well so that would be super beneficial. a couple of valves could easily let you set the pump to "drain" instead of loop.
Run the drain tube through the binder clamp handles to hold the tube in place.
Tip!
Tank Inkjet Printers have an inline peristaltic pump to dump the waste paint into the waste container. You can reuse those by trilling a few holes and adding a DC motor directly to the gears
I somehow always get resin everywhere no matter what the heck I do, so I'm def gonna look into this.
You need a tip like that steam cleaners use to draw up a wider area of resin rather than needing to grab you scrapper. It should be wide like 2 scraper blades with a narrow slit between them and tapering to the hose.
I need a version of this where it has a switch so it works like a sump pump. Stick it in and use it as an automatic resin refill system.
Could also work the other way as a resin top up jig possibly for larger prints...
How about printing a hose attachment that combines the use of the spatula (like our regular house vacuum attachments)?
Can I add on here some of this can be automated with a jig pushing the vat to one side and you could totally put an in line filter on there not to mention there's already designs out there to print peristaltic pumps then all you need to buy is the hardware for that a few screws and a motor that would also solve the speed problem too
Thank you for this video. Where did you find the orange colored tube please. I guess they may be UV proof please
? (and transparency is great to see if everything goes as planned).
i been looking for this use on my Phrozen Mega 8k
Unrelated but love that super metroid wall display
What do you use for removing failed prints for the fep?
The benefit of curing that first layer is not having to work bits off the fep
I would design and print a vacuum nozzle for the pickup end.
Btw... Love the minis and terrain pieces from the latest Kickstarter.. can not wait for the Jan 31 drop.
Thank you so much, Dawn! The combo of them all has turned out (and has been turning out) so well. We’re so proud of it all, and this kind of feedback is wonderful. Have a great weekend!
It's funny how we tend to think in terms of modeling and printing a jig to hold it in place when a simpler solution would be to use something like a clothespin or binder clip. Lol
Can you tilt the whole printer a bit, (with wedges for example) so the resin flows in one corner where it can be conveniently collected? This way you don't need to take out the vat - or do you need to recalibrate the printer after you move it?
3d print in TPU a vacuum squeege tip, like a mini carpet cleaner nozzle
Have a small cup of IPA nearby to flush out the tubing when you’re finished. Then flush it again with some distilled water. Won’t have to worry about cross contamination if you’re using different resins.
I like this idea. The one downside is the slow speed. 10 minutes for a Saturn means 15-20 for a Mega? There’s a whole variety of these pumps used for Aaquarium dosing and many are controllable with variable speed so do some research to find the fastest pump.
To avoid the fire-hose issue, maybe design and 3d print a clip to hold the hose on the vat and another to hold it one the bottle - you could even incorporate something into a funeral to hold the hose. Again look into Aquarium equipment - there’s loads of clips and holders out there for dosing tubes and pumps.
OK, my first printer, a resin printer, should be here in a few months and I am BRAND new to the hobby. This video makes me more than a bit nervous as I never realized this step existed. I have never seen a video of anyone that goes into what to do for clean up after a print. Made me realize there is an awful lot I do not know just getting started. Danny, do you have a video or series of vids for the complete beginner to resin printing (or any 3d printing for that matter) on how to setup to use their new resin printer for the first time, what all the steps are and what extra equipment I should have on hand before I start?
uncle jessy might, orjust search. you NEED a respirator, nitrile gloves, paper towels, alchohol in a little spray bottle is very useful too, its a messy hobby. so waste disposal is big thing. and space. clear working space
Could you use a silicone spatula as apossed to plastic scraper so you won't have to worry about scratching ptf film? I know people use silicone mats in resin printing. I just got a rresin 3D printer but haven't gotten any resin yet to start printing. Anyhow love you videos been watching since I got an ender 3 from watching your videos also still have it in the box lol big time procrastinating, lol any how thank for your videos gl.
Look up fishtank suction cups. They might be able to hold the hose in place for you.
I don't know the dimensions of the tubes, but I did a quick and VERY rough remix from a (longer 30) pour spout as a proof of concept up on tinkercad.
Sound great! I'm a bit worried about the inner part of the hose. I imagine that those sticky resins (like Creality) will stay inside and get mixed with the next (transparent) resin. Do you have to clean it? That would create extra steps and maybe reduce the benefit of an easier handling.
Cycling some isopropyl once you're done cleaning the vat should be a decent way to dilute and remove any problematic resin in the tubing. That being the case it would still be wise to change out the tubes every so often.
In any case, I can't wait to give this a shot! I've had some peristaltic motors on hand for a few years with nothing to do until now!
ingenious, curious if it won't clog up over time
What about using a pc watercooling pump, I got one of them but with 1/2" barbs and tubing?
Maybe a titling table surface that tilts the whole printer slightly to a corner of the vat. Then clip the hose (3d filament printed of course) to the low corner.
damn, i build one yesterday , and decided to google if anyone else ever done that before))) lol))))
This can be actually resin auto-refill tool aswell? It can add always "fresh" stirred resin, plus heated pump would be convenient for cold days/garage environment.
Someone suggested it combined with an Arduino. It's honestly a phenomenal idea IMO, I just don't have the tools to make it at the moment.
Wanted to get this on Amazon with your link. Not available for 2 months now. Can you suggest another for us to purchase with your affiliate link? Great info and thank you!
That's a great idea.
Especialy with the Mars 3 Vat being so terrible at pouring!
But how do you clean the machine itself? don't you have a mess of sticky resin in the subes or the machine?
Do you have it suck up some Ipa then water to clean it up?
Maybe a soldering helping hands thing would work as a jig to hold the pipe in the right place?
Is there an STL to make something like this? (With the exception of some parts)
How do you prevent the resin from curing in the hose/pump? Completely cleaning it with IPA after each use seems to me more messy than cleaning vats the usual way.
if you put the pump and tubes in a box or something then the resin will never cure. the only thing that cures resin is UV light. most modern windows block most UV light already, but putting it in a box is even better.
Did u buy or print the pump element's?
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I don't even have the resin printer yet, but if you are still using the peristaltic pump, just put something under one rear leg so the vat is tilted towards, say front left corner and print the tubing holder to install on the vat corner, so you don't have to move the resin around with spatula. This way you only have to wipe the vat after it's totally drained. Although I'd go with really big syringe, as used for horses, wrapped in black foil or shrink wrap black tubing, suck all the resin in one stroke and keep it there instead of bottle. Oops, I just saw your other thumbnail with syringe. But I'll leave the comment just in case..
You should make a squeegee for that Tube like on a Window! :-) And a Tube holder for the Pipe!
How do you clean the insides of the pump?
Could be used to auto clean Isopropyl alcool, siphoning the tub and passing it in a filter in the corner, as a fish tank cleaner.
Nice idea. How to clean it at the end of the process? and will it quickly dirty the alcohol...
Cycle out some isopropyl alcohol through it all ya need to do. I filter between a dirty and clean Tupperware, but only when I'm done using it. Left it between days and no issues so far.
i got this pump and it works perfectly. and I flush it with my alcohol tank!
What tubing do you use with it? I used the tubing that came with the pump and it is garbage. Hardly sucks any volume.
Another thing to add would be some way to heat the resin to temperature. Resin is sensitive to temperature and print quality will depend on it.
It is cool that people are realizing this now. Never throught it was a "unknown"!?!
I have had this as a built in autofill feature for my slash printers for years. As amazing DIY is it has its blind spots. :P
What are you using to monitor the amount of resin in the vat?
@@ianjohnson8419 there is a sensor... It has been on the Uniz printer models for years.
Not a problem just didn't know it was considered new?
it was a bust but i think i got a bad pump, runs backwards from what it shows in the listing and and painfully slow... but love the idea! the wheels on the brain go round and round!