And the Autopilot/FSD, better infotainment, in-car Steam OS games, more space, more everything... It's insanely cheap now that the crazy 2021 car market is behind us. I spent over $140k all-said-and-done on a non-Plaid Model X. And that wasn't even at the height of the price bubble.
@@justrandomthings319 yeah, not 150k like the Audi, not 200k like the Porsche, not 250k like the lucid. They each have their own merits but not as bargains
We need to appreciate the fact that all this has been done on a family sedan platform that is over 10 years old. Just wait until that new Roadster comes out. 🤯
No… it’s not 10 years old. Please stop propagating this dumb comment. They continuously improve their cars, they don’t follow the typical year cycles it’s nothing like the model s from 10 years ago.
It's great they they took the negative feedback and produced something this good. Price isn't too bad either same amount for a small piece of carbon on a Ferrari.
@@BucNasty32 Rimac tries to make the most extreme you can with current technology and tires in prototype fashion. Thats great and cool but nothing in comparison to trying to mass produce an affordable sports car. Rimac makes prototypes, Tesla mass produces.
I think they did the test on a full battery. But the battery% doesn't hurt the 0-60 much since the car is super traction limited. It only impacts the top end. You get 1020hp as long as you are above 90%.
@@lachlanB323💯 it's not only traction limited but even without traction it's also torque/phase amps limited. motor controllers only try to draw max power from the battery when you are above 65+mph for instance at 30mph full throttle is same load on the battery as 60mph half throttle
One thing hugely underrated I’ve been noticing in recent videos. The sound design. There is cohesiveness between the persona of the car to the music and what the presenter is saying. This is not an easy thing to do. So many other channels miss the mark with cliche music for certain brands, models or county of origin, not here. Well done team.
@@Tegneaufreak Good. That just makes it harder to make a car. Do you really think they could sell a 90k car without innovating on cost? Yes. They don't have rain sensors but instead use the cameras and it isn't particularly good right now but they're planning a big update for it. Same with other stuff
it's not outrunning buggatis lol. At quick launches, sure. buggatti's sucks at launches because it takes an eternity to build boost, but once it does there's not a car that can beat it. and as for quick launches, buggati is partly owned by rimac. tesla boys trying to find there own happiness lol
@chiranjeevikg7448 Instead of talking out of your rear end, maybe look it up? Plaids were ahead of Chirons up to 180mph.. after which the Chriron crawled by.. If you're fine spending $4M on that knowing that you're going to need a $100k clutch work on the DSG and a $30k service every 3 months, be my guest 😃
@AcarenthusiastFtmoujeb Smelling exhaust fumes is luxurious? Being forced for service your car for $30k every 3 months is luxurious? Not having full self driving is luxurious?
Well, from a cost perspective, and for the performance you get as well as range, charger network, over the air updates, I'll take the Tesla. Simply, nothing touches the Tesla at the price.
The tesla model s plaid was 160k last year and now 89k. Model 3 is 20k. Biggest cost of owning a tesla is depreciation. Every average joe in the world has one its like a poor mans sports car now, its over saturated. Talk about depreciating assets at a historic rate.
Great video! For the record Model 3 Performance also has track presets and totally adjustable front rear drive percentages. Brilliant fun! And it’s great value!
Yes it does and they do virtually nothing to change the way the car drives, I’ve played with the adjustments on mine and unless you put it in drift mode, every configuration felt exactly the same
What’s even crazier - My Model Y performance has same Track Mode to send Power to the rear, family SUV! Changed from BMW to Tesla and I never looked back
@@sowajarekyes, the YP got track mode as OTA in december 2022. I picked up a 2023 YP Berlin and on the way home at the 28th of december it got an OTA with track mode. I did have track model in 3P, that one also came as an OTA after I bought it. Tesla also gave me increased power (5% more engine power), twice, via OTA... For free! And a lot of other features, improved brakes, safety etc. Thats one of the fun things with a Tesla, it always gets better over time, with OTAs.. Suddenly you have some new features you never know how you lived without :)
I rode in a plaid at the Fremont Tesla track, and its insane to feel, and you really cant put into words how it feels. But I've been in insanely fast cars and this isn't the same at all, its like a massive weight on your chest, and even that doesn't do it justice.
I know right? My P100D pulls hard, the Plaid is such a different animal. It just jumps and chases speed and makes 2150kg feel like a feather. It's absolutely mind boggling.
@@Frygisk The plaid is like 80kg lighter than the p100d while putting out 400 more hp and never runs out of steam. For road usage it is a big improvement but for dragstrip and track use... it is a massive upgrade.
I did the test track as well and had the same feels as it hits you right in the chest. I was thinking it would be like a roller coaster, but it's sooooo much more.
Thanks for being honest Rory! We can count on you. So many reviewers love the drama and the old hate towards Tesla, they would never give this a proper review. Thanks!
I love how the "rival" to the Model S is give or take $100,000 more expensive and the audi is 20-30k more expensive. And these numbers are just the upfront costs of the "equivalent" trims of these cars. The panel gaps are definitely horrendous... but you're willing to spend 20-100k more for less performance for better build quality? Insane!
panel gaps are horrendous but, at the end of the day, fixable. It takes a lot of tedious back and forth but one can align them perfectly by playing with hinges and latches. It is irritating though. I did it myself over one weekend on my M3 because I dont trust Tesla to do it. It require great attention to detail and long hours of trial and error. It cant be done otherwise because one cant position/align and then tighten all the bolts - can only be done when doors or boot are open. Hence, it is a guessing game. Loosen up the lug nuts, move one millimeter in some direction, tighten up, close the door or boot. See how it looks. Rinse and repeat for like 50 times, until u are satisfied.
but why would you not want better build quality though, the Taycan and Etron are pretty quick compared to the average car on the road, and you will still be in a luxurious environment and better build quality. Unless you what you want is to drag race traffic light to traffic light. The Tesla is the best value for money EV out there though, can't deny that.
@@gledatelj1979 The seats are amazing for anything but the track. With the extra 20k you can get a top tier seat and fix the panel gaps and get ceramic coating and... you get the idea.
Too noisy? Whatever happened to the complains of the car being too quiet and having no noise? Remember, this is a family car that can do a little track stuff, albeit in an interesting way. Try taking the most track-oriented Porsche and put it through it’s paces of daily activities of a family saloon: fitting a family of five (and their luggage) comfortably, fitting the shopping with the family in it, being quiet so people can have normal conversations inside the cabin, convinces and expenses of daily use.
The review seems a bit misleading. Track package only includes the carbon brake upgrade and some software tuning. The tires and wheel package is an additional option. The 3 electric motors wrapped in carbon are standard on the Plaid
So cool to see a direct comparison to the Taycan and E-Tron on the track. Hopefully this changes some minds of those who still think Teslas are a one-trick pony. Just to clarify, this isn’t a special version of the Model S Plaid. It’s just a stock Plaid with the optional carbon ceramic brakes which help with repeated braking on the track (and unlocks the 200+MPH top speed). All Model S Plaids have the updated track mode software with better suspension tuning. After the recent huge price drop, you can now get a Plaid with the full track pack for less than the cost of the base Plaid a couple of months ago (and about half the price of the Taycan).
It's really the software, the tuning by engineers into the software. Everything else people could've done for less aftermarket. Just brakes & tires really.
@@biscottigelato8574 Brakes are a big one. Lots of reviewers have complained about braking. However, ive never really seen the Model S as a track toy. Its always been a practical GT car to me. Just something that you can take a road trip with the family.
@@geemy9675 They haven’t moved the horn in S/X yet. But given the obsession with manufacturing and supply chain efficiency I expect eventually they’ll replace the wheel to use the same as the new model 3 at some point, then it will also benefit from better button haptics and the camera shortcut button. S/X is made in Fremont, new 3 only in Shanghai for now, so might have to wait for California model 3 line to be updated before we see the new steering wheel on the S/X.
Thank God it doesn't have the yoke steering wheel, they upgraded the suspension and sorted out the brakes. Personally, I prefer the Porsche, but for the money, it's quite the bargain. Great review Rory!
Compared to a Porsche, Tesla is is like something made by Fisher-Price 😀 A drab looking shaped box of plastic with doors and wheels on it, a bloated daffy duck Model Y and a fish-faced Model 3, neither inspiring, nor pretty. Even the interior of Tesla cannot be more boring, with just a giant iPad in the middle. They make them so cheap; they don't even give you an entire wheel to use. Upper portion gone. No indicator stalk either. You cannot open the glove compartment without using the touch screen. They say, great software, but hits the kerb on parallel parking, no sensors. Yup, super-fast they are, and most electric cars are, but who is going to go super-fast every time from one stop light to another with the back full of groceries or toddlers in child-seat, and speed limits everywhere.
@@harmony3138 you can get two Model S Plaid in the USA for the price of one Taycan Turbo S with options. The Model S has almost double the range, you can use the extensive Tesla charging network, it is safer than the Taycan, more spacious, more power, better technology, you can actually seat 5 people, better efficiency and it is the overall sedan record holder at the Nurburgring. The Taycan has quality.
@@harmony3138 Come on. I know you like Porsche we all do. But don't need to hate Tesla to love Porsche. All you said is right. It doesn't wanted to be a Porsche nor compared it to. Just give it a appreciation where its due. The sheer engineering of this car is mind bending. We can amazed and appreciate Tesla and also at the same time love our Porsche.
You know Tesla has changed the game when a bunch of automotive journalist (petrol fans) now say that acceleration and speed are no longer that important. Tesla has completely democratized super fast cars.
but acceleration and speed has never entirely been the important factor. Porsche GT3's and Miata's have proven that a long time ago. The GR Yaris and Civic Type R are proving that today against other faster hot hatches.
I own a new MS Plaid with track pack and it is absolutely amazing. I also own 911’s and when it comes to an EV sedan it is above everything else out there..
@THEREALZENFORCE Tesla lives in your head rent free. I've seen many comments from you with negativity and the same comment quoting track times to the bmw. Give it a rest. It's childish.
@@ronin7645 What is not childish is the huge worth loss of Tesla cars. 2019 Model 3 Performance being worth less than half it's value in 4 years while the Bmw M4 CSL is stable, so also the Porsche Cayman and my friends Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA went over 100k in worth in 2 years from 150000 USD to 268000 USD and first Plaids went from 140k to sub 100k to 70k used. Facts
I had a CTS-V Wagon before I got my Model S. The Model S with the hatchback and the fold down rear seats offer tons of cargo room and practicality! I will be upgrading my P100D to a Plaid soon with the used car prices coming down.
@@lancetruong4957 have a I8 for daily driving which I prefer because of the looks but saving for a huracan performante for the weekend car. Not buying an electric car for theatrics
The Motors are the same on the track pack and normal plaid. Both are software locked top speeds. Someone unlocked the top speed on a normal plaid and did 217mph.
The thing i like most about tesla is that it doesn't look like a rocket ship, all mad with wings and aero. If you weren't a car person you could mistake it for a mondeo. But will absolutely destroy 99% of any other cars on the road. Good work Elon.
@@Tegneaufreakbuying a fast cat is never a rational choice anyway. unless: -you spend time on a track -you have access to nice empty, twisty roads without cops. otherwise , being able to punch the throttle for a few seconds once in a while is about all the fun people get in a car. Model S long range is 100% a (supercar) quick 3s car
Using Teslafanboy logic : Price to Performance of a MG4 XPower is better than the Plaid. You can buy 3 MG4Xpower for the price of one Plaid Porsche luxury car, Tesla a Dacia sedan with a powerful battery
i've been fortunate enough to drive this car and omg, it's ruined every other tesla for me. the acceleration is brutal, having launched it, it's definitely sub 2.5 seconds and it does it with so much ease. i love this car, just know i probably wouldn't be able to afford it but value for money, amazing
The first time I drove a Plaid I punched it at 40mph and was doing 100+ mph in a stupidly short amount of time. That car basically made everything else feel slow.
I see all the hate about Tesla. I too hated the Tesla until I drove one and can say, it really has caught the Germans out napping. If you haven't driven one, don't dismiss it. The only area that they need to really work on, is the build quality. Some of the fixtures and fittings are loose e.g. MY21 Model 3 armrest, and the knocking sound near the suspension over time. But if they can sort these gremlins, they will definitely be up there! Just look at their rate of development versus to 70-odd years of German car engineering and that just says it all.
All Tesla brakes work just fine in normal use, what they don't do well is repeated hard braking such as you do on a race track in which case they will overheat. If you are overheating your brakes on the road you are a danger to other road users. If you're tracking your Tesla you should upgrade the brakes.
Except plaid track pack has different style brakes compared to all other Tesla's. So you're totally fine tracking a plaid track pack, as explained in the video..
@@snakeeyes9246 not very bright are you? The reason the Plaid took so long to stop in the Throttle House video is because the car was doing 150+ in the quarter mile.. so because it was traveling faster than any other car Throttle House had ever tested it's going to take a longer distance to stop. I have a Plaid... I'll never track the car. I don't want to spend $20K on brakes I'll never use... besides, ceramic brakes actually suck until they get hot... then they bite well.
@@snakeeyes9246 2nd run against the Porsche. (Dude driving the Tesla looking like Dark Helmet going to Plaid, WTF, over acting just a little!) Notice when Porsche turns around he has to drive back towards the start to meet the Plaid, so Plaid stopped before Porsche. Obviously Porsche could stop sooner than Plaid but Plaid driver is so hamming this up for the cameras. Also note how much runway is left when Porsche makes it’s turn. Plaid brakes work fine UNLESS you’re going to make repeated emergency stops from very high speed…which you obviously wouldn’t be doing on the highway! If you intend to track your Plaid get the Track Package.
While waiting in Drag Strip Mode, batteries are warming up, not cooling down! The warmer the batteries the better the performance. That's why people hit "Navigate to a Supercharger" to heat up the batteries before the drag race. On the opposite side, the motors perform best when at lower temp.
They should make a Plaid R with bucket seats, more aggressive aero, better tuned steering and suspension and bump up the power a bit.. They could very well compete with the Lucid Air Sapphire with minimal updates..
@@publicsectordirect982 You meant Lucid Air with 1111HP and two motors. Lucid Saphire is like 250$K car and is quicker than this Plaid though. You have to give Lucid their props.
Lucid Air Sapphire is awesome, but its $250k, and Lucid is STILL losing money on it lol, Sapphire is probably better, but 2.5x better? ehhh hard to justify
loses half the buck you paid in just a few years while a Porsche GT3 or GT4 keeps most of it's value. Also the much quicker sun 9 seconds quarter mile 0-60 in 1.66 seconds Dodge Demon is 100k (the Plaid 120k in Europe).
@@THEREALZENFORCE I love when people like you get reduced to the "value" argument. 🤣 Here's a fun fact, ANY CAR will hold its value if you don't drive it. Also, the Dodge Demon is only good on a prepped surface, with race gas, and drag radials, in good weather. The Plaid will run high 9's in the rain. 🤷 Now you know.. 😘
You should do the same testing with the Model 3 Performance w/ Track Package. It's every bit as fun and does cornering even better than the S Plaid simply do to its size and geometry.
@@justrandomthings319 Yes, track mode which is what he's referring to in this video as well. The Model 3 P also comes with larger brakes and sport tires, which is basically a stock track package.
First of all it’s not to cool the battery. It’s to warm it up. Second, it’s not 20 mins; it’s variable depending on the status at the time you go into drag strip mode. It can be a couple of mins only.
So, the handling front and rear doesnt eliminate all power in front or the rear, but rather controls under/oversteer balance. The model 3 performance did this years before the plaid with track/drift mode and abundance of tire shredding power and torque. This is actual to heavy compared to the model 3 performance imo... If the m3p just had 200 more hp, it would all but eliminate the need for the fat wide plaid at track. For scca, I would never choose the plaid, but would choose the m3p, which won scca nationals recently!
FYI for all you lot who don’t live in or visit California often, just so know you, the CA roads are literally crawling in S/X plaids. No joke you will hardly believe how many you’ll see 😊
Why do u say family sedan like it's gas powered. Electric obv has its advantages. Even the lucid air which is faster then this is a family sudan. The thing is the teslas overheat after 1 lap.
When you filled it up did you use premium electricity ? It doesn’t have shoulder support seats because it’s a sedan that happens to be the fastest thing on the road.
Seeing this, anyone who still claims EVs don´t evoke "emotion" and have no "soul" really are just into ICE vibrations and noise and NOTHING else. But the greatest trick the Tesla pulls here is having this tremendous performance when wanted but also being a comfy day-to-day family car... literally at the switch of a button. Or rather, touch of settings on screen. There´s no car on this planet that can match this combination of power and everyday usefulness at that price. Teslas are not the best cars, surely not, but bring the game to price brackets that just are marvellous.
It’s slower than ice cars with half the bhp on track. 😂 Even a Shirmer bmw M2 with 370bhp is 15 seconds faster around the Nurburgring that’s 1000bhp plaid track pack.
"Feels like a race car" with 1020hp struggles to do a 7min 25 seconds on the Nordschleife while the Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo does 5 minutes 19 seconds, more than 2 minutes quicker per lap which is an entire different universe of speed and handling
@@ThanasisGrivas The 550hp Bmw M4 CSL did 7minutes 18 seconds on the Nordschleife while bad handling Plaid track pack did 7 minutes 25 seconds, and the regular Plaid a bad 7 minutes 35 seconds, a 370hp Bmw M2 did 7 minutes 33 seconds. Tesla fans don't know much about cars.
@@THEREALZENFORCE ok kepp your slightly better lap time, I'm fine knowing that I will never loose a drag race at any stop light. And will win almost all races at the dragstrip.
Well as an ex employee who would have customers refuse delivery due to panel gaps.....after waiting a year for a X or S...... which are better than the 3 and Y by miles.....Tesla puts the cars with the WORST panel gaps in the showroom as display models because there are so FEW good cars lol with panel gaps........the interior gaps can be INSANE...the cars are around $30K overpriced but Rich people keep consuming trying to one up the other and that trickles down to the lower economic classes because why can't we have the best too? Well because you don't make enough money so we finance ( middle - lower class ) and get in debt just to get our share of excess.
Yeah on a 1996 Honda Civic that costs 900 bucks and has 6 different colored doors, sure 😅 on a 120k car, panel gaps need to be perfect. But we already know that Elon is more for himself than for the customer.
Taycan and Audi aren't even in the same universe compared to the Tesla.... WLTP for the Taycan is 458km while the PLAID is 695km Taycan also weighs more than the PLAID which is ridiculous since the model S is MUCH bigger. That said,i drove the Plaid and it should be illegal on the street, absolutely ridiculously fast
Plaid range 345 miles, upcoming Audi A6 e-tron 400 miles. Nio ET7 already 620 miles for some time now Tesla seems to be a universe behind in terms of range.
"i drove the Plaid and it should be illegal on the street, absolutely ridiculously fast" 1) you men quick not fast 2) on the German Autobahn cars do way faster speeds 3) a Porsche 992GT3RS, GT2RS, GT4 a Bmw M4 CSL, M3 CSL, Camaro ZL1, Viper ACR, Lotus Exige, Ausdi TTRS ABT will easily gap the Plaid in twisty roads, even more on mountain roads where the Plaid might fall down the hill from the roadside. Also any modern 200 to 240hp 1000cc motorcycle once rolling start is as quick in a straight line and even quicker in twistys, the Plaid could not even keep up with a small cc KTM Duke 890R 117hp, The Superduke 1290 RR would obliterate the Plaid in mountain roads. In the US ,Europe and Russia there are 1500hp to over 2000hp modded cars (Bmw's, Lambos, and others they obliterate the Plaid in acceleration, especially on rolling start and top speed and many are still road legal
I don't think the digital age generation would find the "bomber cockpit" style knob clutter attractive - they see that as overwhelming and old fashioned. They prefer clean modern interiors and find themselves quite at home, as they live and breath cellphones and tablets. Just a different target market.
No-one really cares about the panel gaps. Lots of "great" and famous supercars have huge panel gaps and nobody ever cared. It's just something the german car makers pushed in the press when they realised that Tesla had them beaten.
@@shou635 Things against Tesla : 1. loses over half it's worth in a few years, way more than most brands 2. unreliable FSD, that is still at level 2 and only uses cameras no radar 3. cheap looking interior for a 90k to 110k car 4. Panel Gaps and outdated mid 2000s car look 5. almost no physical buttons, most stuff via touchsreen, no 360 parking view 6. vaporware selling and often lying cult leader (only a marketing genius) 7. gullible and toxic Teslafanboys (see comment section as proof) 8. Stock buyers who spread misinformation and try to overhype Tesla brand to make profit (see comment section as proof) Things for Tesla : great acceleration in a straight line for the price
Let's acknowledge too, the Plaid was designed as a high end sedan, not a racecar. So much more spacious compared to the competition. It is reliable too. - don't get me started on German engineering...
great video, but regarding your remark about how "most EVs tend to run out of steam at higher speeds", that's not really a problem with EVs, it's a problem with their transmission. Most manufacturers don't bother putting multi-speed transmissions on EVs because profit-wise it's not worth it, so they usually just put a single short final drive ratio. This means that the car maxes out the motor's rpm way too soon, and is only limited by motor spin speed rather than power. Given them another gear or a longer final drive ratio and they'll easily get higher top speed. If you aren't convinced, just look at how high the top speeds of EV bullet trains are compared to steam or even diesel-electric locomotives. Electric is literally meant for top speed. Edit: forgot to mention that current EV cars are only using permanent magnet DC motors rather than the AC motors on bullet trains. AC motors have constant torque so the hp just keeps increasing as the rpm increases and can reach some extreme numbers
The Brit’s used to use American auto manufacturers as punching bags. It’s nice to see Tesla bring back some pride in American vehicles that are loved around the world 👍
But its rivals cost 2 to 4 times more, weigh more, have way less power and features, plus no supercharging👀 I'm not paying double the price to have a car with no panel gaps. Also why are you complaining about the noise? I thought it was a negative thing to car enthusiasts that electric cars make no noise? You can barely hear the noise inside the car, let alone going 100mph on the track
Rory said it himself, the Taycan has way better handling and steering feel, and it has right hand drive for the UK market. Also, the point about the panel gaps is for the price that the Tesla is, it shouldn't have any just like other premium vehicles (such as the Audi/Porsche) i.e. you can forgive panel gaps on a $20,000 mitsubishi mirage, but not a $20,000 option package for an already expensive car
@@SirFlukealot expensive car? Bruh it's only $89k to get the second quickest car in the world. Plus it fully drives itself on all roads, is the smartest car out there and has a range of 400 miles
@@SirFlukealot well considering that the Taycans just had a global recall (again) for battery issues when it comes to quality y’all sure don’t seem to do research as to why people pick teslas. At least you know the drive train and batteries are reliable compared to other brands and honestly those other brands have tons of issues as well. Definitely would pick a model s over a Taycan for the price difference alone but hey everyone is free to have their own opinions but most people as the sales have shown will do their research before buying a brand that looks better on paper but is worse living with.
The Taycan Turbos S with options cost as much as two Model S Plaid's in the USA with less power, less range, less cargo space, not as safe, worse technology and weight 500lbs more lol. The Taycan has quality... Must be fun to go to a car show and talk about panel gaps to people; they must be really impressed lol.
I always trust Rory to be objective and he didn't disappoint. I also compared the Taycan to Model S and felt the same way. What really stood out to me about the new Tesla is how it keeps pulling. Even over 100 it feels faster than a 720S, and unless you're spending millions for a Rimac, that is truly exceptional performance from an EV! That I can almost get two Plaids now for the price of one nicely equipped Turbo S is just gravy.
@@mortenkrogh8599 Towing a 2000 pound boat ? Jeep Cherokee 4500lbs, Audi Q5 4400lbs, a cheap Toyota Rav4 can even tow 3500lbs, so a 1000hp Plaid can only tow 2000lbs 😆
I thought that putting the car into drag-strip mode and waiting for peak performance readiness took time because the batteries need to fully heat up. You said they need cool down. That seems incorrect or am I missing something.
The Rimac Concept One had the technology where you could choose between rear wheel drive, all wheel drive or front wheeldrive. In the Rimac Concept One the driver could choose which percent of power could go to the front wheels or rear wheels
The nevera with 1900bhp is slower than a 500bhp Porsche around the Nurburgring. If you detuned the Nevera to the same power as the Porsche it would really show how terrible the weight and chassis is. No track enthusiast would take a 2ton ev with computers controlling everything for you.
It won't have the same endurance or ability to hit top speed, the plaid isn't just a bunch of power slapped onto a car, its built to handle that power without cooking itself.
0:22 that slide didn’t look very controlled, when it comes to drifting, a properly set up car will almost do it for you, on top of that that’s a lot of suspension lean for a sporty car
Remember, it’s still a family sedan by design minus software tweaks for the air suspension and to up the speed limiter to 204 mph. The Only hardware added are brakes and tires. It wasn’t designed from the ground up to be a sports sedan like an M3.
And then, there is the price. Better value compared to the other two. More efficient and the Tesla Superchargers are a plus.
In the US, with the track pack Included it’s only 105k!! That’s well spec’ed base taycan money!
@@underscorechaz "only $105k" 🥴
And the Autopilot/FSD, better infotainment, in-car Steam OS games, more space, more everything... It's insanely cheap now that the crazy 2021 car market is behind us. I spent over $140k all-said-and-done on a non-Plaid Model X. And that wasn't even at the height of the price bubble.
@@justrandomthings319 yeah, not 150k like the Audi, not 200k like the Porsche, not 250k like the lucid. They each have their own merits but not as bargains
@@ken830 we almost sold ours when it got that high; we preordered before the facelift was announced and payed only 10k more than current list price 😁
We need to appreciate the fact that all this has been done on a family sedan platform that is over 10 years old. Just wait until that new Roadster comes out. 🤯
I dont have to wait. I love my Model S and will swap that for the Plaid next year.
The roadster isn’t happening any time soon
@@MrSandChessno no no, it was supposed to have been delivered 3 years ago, maybe in another 3 years we will see an prototype?
No… it’s not 10 years old. Please stop propagating this dumb comment. They continuously improve their cars, they don’t follow the typical year cycles it’s nothing like the model s from 10 years ago.
Gonna be there in "two weeks"
finally, somebody who actually understands cars, deeply.
Started with the Tesla. Drove the Porsche and Audi and came back to the Tesla with a proper send-off. Tesla will continue to move the goal posts!
Let’s hope that they can learn how to fit body panels before too long
It's great they they took the negative feedback and produced something this good. Price isn't too bad either same amount for a small piece of carbon on a Ferrari.
Rimac moves the goalposts. Tesla just try and reach it.
@@BucNasty32 Rimac tries to make the most extreme you can with current technology and tires in prototype fashion. Thats great and cool but nothing in comparison to trying to mass produce an affordable sports car. Rimac makes prototypes, Tesla mass produces.
@@larssonk22 Yeah, the Tesla really is sitting at a great price.
You had 32 miles of range left and you still managed 0-60 in 2.3 seconds on a dead battery!!! Nice!
I think they did the test on a full battery. But the battery% doesn't hurt the 0-60 much since the car is super traction limited. It only impacts the top end. You get 1020hp as long as you are above 90%.
The gauge cluster reads 32 mi of range in the rain. They might have done the test at a higher state of charge, but it probably wasn't fully charged.
@@Tegneaufreak try 8%
@@Tegneaufreak 32 miles being 25% was decades ago. Get with the times boomer.
@@lachlanB323💯 it's not only traction limited but even without traction it's also torque/phase amps limited. motor controllers only try to draw max power from the battery when you are above 65+mph
for instance at 30mph full throttle is same load on the battery as 60mph half throttle
One thing hugely underrated I’ve been noticing in recent videos. The sound design. There is cohesiveness between the persona of the car to the music and what the presenter is saying. This is not an easy thing to do. So many other channels miss the mark with cliche music for certain brands, models or county of origin, not here. Well done team.
Imagine thinking a tesla sounds good..lmao this page is a safe place for tesla owners thank god u didn't comment that on a car guys channel 😂😂
the tesla engineers really listen to their customers and coming from the normal plaid to this is a perfect example of
Shame about the indicator stalks then. Not seeing anyone agreeing that it's the best solution.
@@RichardBrooklynOnly the folks in the UK have a problem with it. Here in the states it’s not a problem AT ALL.
@@RichardBrooklyni love how there are no stalks. Less is better!
@@Tegneaufreak Good. That just makes it harder to make a car. Do you really think they could sell a 90k car without innovating on cost? Yes. They don't have rain sensors but instead use the cameras and it isn't particularly good right now but they're planning a big update for it. Same with other stuff
And with the New Model 3 Highland
For $89k, you get a family sedan that can outrun $4M Buggati Chirons with near 0 maintenance, and 1/10th the running costs of your Camry 🥵
it's not outrunning buggatis lol. At quick launches, sure. buggatti's sucks at launches because it takes an eternity to build boost, but once it does there's not a car that can beat it. and as for quick launches, buggati is partly owned by rimac. tesla boys trying to find there own happiness lol
@chiranjeevikg7448 Instead of talking out of your rear end, maybe look it up? Plaids were ahead of Chirons up to 180mph.. after which the Chriron crawled by..
If you're fine spending $4M on that knowing that you're going to need a $100k clutch work on the DSG and a $30k service every 3 months, be my guest 😃
@@Youthuba- The Model S and Rimac Nevera EV's both destroy any Buggatti !!
That is because bugattis are luxurious
Teslas are not
@AcarenthusiastFtmoujeb Smelling exhaust fumes is luxurious?
Being forced for service your car for $30k every 3 months is luxurious?
Not having full self driving is luxurious?
Well, from a cost perspective, and for the performance you get as well as range, charger network, over the air updates, I'll take the Tesla. Simply, nothing touches the Tesla at the price.
Have you driven it?
The tesla model s plaid was 160k last year and now 89k. Model 3 is 20k. Biggest cost of owning a tesla is depreciation. Every average joe in the world has one its like a poor mans sports car now, its over saturated. Talk about depreciating assets at a historic rate.
Great video! For the record Model 3 Performance also has track presets and totally adjustable front rear drive percentages. Brilliant fun! And it’s great value!
Yes it does and they do virtually nothing to change the way the car drives, I’ve played with the adjustments on mine and unless you put it in drift mode, every configuration felt exactly the same
@@jameswillard1 put it in Fwd and watch it push you into a wall. its thrilling actually. felt a bit like the old integra
What’s even crazier - My Model Y performance has same Track Mode to send Power to the rear, family SUV! Changed from BMW to Tesla and I never looked back
@@sowajarek I know I have one of those as well as the 3P. Awesome cars! I never looked back either 😉
@@sowajarekyes, the YP got track mode as OTA in december 2022.
I picked up a 2023 YP Berlin and on the way home at the 28th of december it got an OTA with track mode.
I did have track model in 3P, that one also came as an OTA after I bought it.
Tesla also gave me increased power (5% more engine power), twice, via OTA... For free!
And a lot of other features, improved brakes, safety etc.
Thats one of the fun things with a Tesla, it always gets better over time, with OTAs.. Suddenly you have some new features you never know how you lived without :)
I rode in a plaid at the Fremont Tesla track, and its insane to feel, and you really cant put into words how it feels. But I've been in insanely fast cars and this isn't the same at all, its like a massive weight on your chest, and even that doesn't do it justice.
I know right? My P100D pulls hard, the Plaid is such a different animal. It just jumps and chases speed and makes 2150kg feel like a feather. It's absolutely mind boggling.
@@Frygisk The plaid is like 80kg lighter than the p100d while putting out 400 more hp and never runs out of steam. For road usage it is a big improvement but for dragstrip and track use... it is a massive upgrade.
It is truly unreal and very hard to describe. The moment you are done, you check your bank account and reserve one for yourself.
@DogDongDotCom yeah not if you rent one for a week and do a long distance trip through So California. It's a local car only.
I did the test track as well and had the same feels as it hits you right in the chest. I was thinking it would be like a roller coaster, but it's sooooo much more.
This car is a marvel of engineering, it can do everything!
Thanks for being honest Rory! We can count on you. So many reviewers love the drama and the old hate towards Tesla, they would never give this a proper review. Thanks!
Can I say that the Model S is a great looking car? Especially these new wide body ones
Personally, I like the model s design à lot more than the Taycan
Yes
No
The only thing I like about this car is the fact that is has a round steering wheel and not that stupid yoke.
It really is a timeless beauty.
I love how the "rival" to the Model S is give or take $100,000 more expensive and the audi is 20-30k more expensive. And these numbers are just the upfront costs of the "equivalent" trims of these cars. The panel gaps are definitely horrendous... but you're willing to spend 20-100k more for less performance for better build quality? Insane!
Tesla probably saved the cost on those cheap sliding seats.
panel gaps are horrendous but, at the end of the day, fixable. It takes a lot of tedious back and forth but one can align them perfectly by playing with hinges and latches. It is irritating though. I did it myself over one weekend on my M3 because I dont trust Tesla to do it. It require great attention to detail and long hours of trial and error. It cant be done otherwise because one cant position/align and then tighten all the bolts - can only be done when doors or boot are open. Hence, it is a guessing game. Loosen up the lug nuts, move one millimeter in some direction, tighten up, close the door or boot. See how it looks. Rinse and repeat for like 50 times, until u are satisfied.
but why would you not want better build quality though, the Taycan and Etron are pretty quick compared to the average car on the road, and you will still be in a luxurious environment and better build quality.
Unless you what you want is to drag race traffic light to traffic light.
The Tesla is the best value for money EV out there though, can't deny that.
@@gledatelj1979 The seats are amazing for anything but the track. With the extra 20k you can get a top tier seat and fix the panel gaps and get ceramic coating and... you get the idea.
I thought the Turbo S starts like $180k without adding extras
Too noisy? Whatever happened to the complains of the car being too quiet and having no noise? Remember, this is a family car that can do a little track stuff, albeit in an interesting way. Try taking the most track-oriented Porsche and put it through it’s paces of daily activities of a family saloon: fitting a family of five (and their luggage) comfortably, fitting the shopping with the family in it, being quiet so people can have normal conversations inside the cabin, convinces and expenses of daily use.
The complaints are road noise. Tesla says they're luxury but they're actually all econoboxes.
The review seems a bit misleading. Track package only includes the carbon brake upgrade and some software tuning. The tires and wheel package is an additional option. The 3 electric motors wrapped in carbon are standard on the Plaid
So cool to see a direct comparison to the Taycan and E-Tron on the track. Hopefully this changes some minds of those who still think Teslas are a one-trick pony. Just to clarify, this isn’t a special version of the Model S Plaid. It’s just a stock Plaid with the optional carbon ceramic brakes which help with repeated braking on the track (and unlocks the 200+MPH top speed). All Model S Plaids have the updated track mode software with better suspension tuning. After the recent huge price drop, you can now get a Plaid with the full track pack for less than the cost of the base Plaid a couple of months ago (and about half the price of the Taycan).
It's really the software, the tuning by engineers into the software. Everything else people could've done for less aftermarket. Just brakes & tires really.
@@biscottigelato8574 Brakes are a big one. Lots of reviewers have complained about braking. However, ive never really seen the Model S as a track toy. Its always been a practical GT car to me. Just something that you can take a road trip with the family.
I didn't know electric cars can be this fun ,s/o to Tesla man !
the problem is, a electric car needs to be hella expensive to be fun, a petrol car can be fun and way cheaper tbh
@@theplayerofus319 Model 3 isn't hella expensive and it's fun.
Model 3 is more expensive than decent ICE in UK
@@jimpackard8059 With comparable options? I don't think so.
@@jimpackard8059you'd have to buy a m3 competition ( around £80k ) to keep up with a model 3 performance ( £57k )
The fact it has a normal steering wheel makes it better than the regular Plaid by an infinite amount of betterness 😂
The regular plaid also has the normal steering wheel now, as does the non plaid variant. You have to pay extra for a yoke.
Regular Plaid now is round wheel. Yoke has become optional on new Model S.
thvk the horn too like on the new model 3 steering wheel
@@geemy9675 They haven’t moved the horn in S/X yet. But given the obsession with manufacturing and supply chain efficiency I expect eventually they’ll replace the wheel to use the same as the new model 3 at some point, then it will also benefit from better button haptics and the camera shortcut button. S/X is made in Fremont, new 3 only in Shanghai for now, so might have to wait for California model 3 line to be updated before we see the new steering wheel on the S/X.
@@greg_289 Sounds reasonable
Thank God it doesn't have the yoke steering wheel, they upgraded the suspension and sorted out the brakes. Personally, I prefer the Porsche, but for the money, it's quite the bargain. Great review Rory!
Compared to a Porsche, Tesla is is like something made by Fisher-Price 😀
A drab looking shaped box of plastic with doors and wheels on it, a bloated daffy duck Model Y and a fish-faced Model 3, neither inspiring, nor pretty.
Even the interior of Tesla cannot be more boring, with just a giant iPad in the middle. They make them so cheap; they don't even give you an entire wheel to use. Upper portion gone. No indicator stalk either. You cannot open the glove compartment without using the touch screen. They say, great software, but hits the kerb on parallel parking, no sensors.
Yup, super-fast they are, and most electric cars are, but who is going to go super-fast every time from one stop light to another with the back full of groceries or toddlers in child-seat, and speed limits everywhere.
@@harmony3138 you can get two Model S Plaid in the USA for the price of one Taycan Turbo S with options. The Model S has almost double the range, you can use the extensive Tesla charging network, it is safer than the Taycan, more spacious, more power, better technology, you can actually seat 5 people, better efficiency and it is the overall sedan record holder at the Nurburgring. The Taycan has quality.
@@harmony3138 Come on. I know you like Porsche we all do. But don't need to hate Tesla to love Porsche. All you said is right. It doesn't wanted to be a Porsche nor compared it to. Just give it a appreciation where its due. The sheer engineering of this car is mind bending. We can amazed and appreciate Tesla and also at the same time love our Porsche.
@@harmony3138So why do you like Porsche?
@@AJzilllaPro
Well, because of what I said above.
Duh! 😀
You know Tesla has changed the game when a bunch of automotive journalist (petrol fans) now say that acceleration and speed are no longer that important. Tesla has completely democratized super fast cars.
but acceleration and speed has never entirely been the important factor. Porsche GT3's and Miata's have proven that a long time ago.
The GR Yaris and Civic Type R are proving that today against other faster hot hatches.
@@sillimilli3802it's always been important...until Tesla came😅
@@sillimilli3802GR Yaris and Civic Type R are POSs.
@@mortenkrogh8599 Tesla fans are the WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO CAR CULTURE SINCE SINCE…..EVER!
@@mortenkrogh8599 Yeah thats why the GT3 cars from Porsche destroy the PLAID around almost every single track and has HALF the power
I own a new MS Plaid with track pack and it is absolutely amazing. I also own 911’s and when it comes to an EV sedan it is above everything else out there..
Is the Track Pack available in the U.S.? I didn't see it on Tesla's site.
Which one is better?
@@MH-so9oz the track package is in their shop (where they have accessories and merch) and isn’t an option when you initially order the car
No mention of price, the Model S Plaid is about 10x to 20x cheaper than compatible ICE cars
💯
1020hp Tesla Plaid Track Pack still 7 seconds slower on the Nürburgring than a 550hp Bmw M4 CSL of same price range.
@THEREALZENFORCE Tesla lives in your head rent free. I've seen many comments from you with negativity and the same comment quoting track times to the bmw. Give it a rest. It's childish.
@@ronin7645 Currently in 2023 Tesla did 40% less revenue than 2022 while VW Group sold 40% more Ev's than 2022. That is the reality
@@ronin7645 What is not childish is the huge worth loss of Tesla cars. 2019 Model 3 Performance being worth less than half it's value in 4 years while the Bmw M4 CSL is stable, so also the Porsche Cayman and my friends Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA went over 100k in worth in 2 years from 150000 USD to 268000 USD and first Plaids went from 140k to sub 100k to 70k used. Facts
I'd love to know what kinds of lap times it can do on the Top Gear test track
I would love this in wagon form! It’s surprising how timeless the design of this car is!
I had a CTS-V Wagon before I got my Model S. The Model S with the hatchback and the fold down rear seats offer tons of cargo room and practicality! I will be upgrading my P100D to a Plaid soon with the used car prices coming down.
And its almost half the price of that porsche😅 The price to performance is unbeatable
Still take the Porsche
@@teletubbypo318 Be my guess if you have money to blow.
The Cayman gt4 with only 500bhp is much faster than a plaid on a track.
The gt3rs is in a different league even with half the bhp.
@@lancetruong4957 have a I8 for daily driving which I prefer because of the looks but saving for a huracan performante for the weekend car. Not buying an electric car for theatrics
Using Teslafanboy logic : Price to Performance of a MG4 XPower is better than the Plaid. You can buy 3 MG4Xpower for the price of one Plaid 😂
The Motors are the same on the track pack and normal plaid. Both are software locked top speeds. Someone unlocked the top speed on a normal plaid and did 217mph.
The thing i like most about tesla is that it doesn't look like a rocket ship, all mad with wings and aero. If you weren't a car person you could mistake it for a mondeo. But will absolutely destroy 99% of any other cars on the road. Good work Elon.
@@Tegneaufreakbuying a fast cat is never a rational choice anyway. unless:
-you spend time on a track
-you have access to nice empty, twisty roads without cops.
otherwise , being able to punch the throttle for a few seconds once in a while is about all the fun people get in a car. Model S long range is 100% a (supercar) quick 3s car
99? Try 99.99 lol
And half the price of that porsche!
Using Teslafanboy logic : Price to Performance of a MG4 XPower is better than the Plaid. You can buy 3 MG4Xpower for the price of one Plaid
Porsche luxury car, Tesla a Dacia sedan with a powerful battery
i've been fortunate enough to drive this car and omg, it's ruined every other tesla for me. the acceleration is brutal, having launched it, it's definitely sub 2.5 seconds and it does it with so much ease. i love this car, just know i probably wouldn't be able to afford it but value for money, amazing
The first time I drove a Plaid I punched it at 40mph and was doing 100+ mph in a stupidly short amount of time. That car basically made everything else feel slow.
A delight to watch.
Thank you Rory.
I see all the hate about Tesla. I too hated the Tesla until I drove one and can say, it really has caught the Germans out napping. If you haven't driven one, don't dismiss it.
The only area that they need to really work on, is the build quality. Some of the fixtures and fittings are loose e.g. MY21 Model 3 armrest, and the knocking sound near the suspension over time. But if they can sort these gremlins, they will definitely be up there! Just look at their rate of development versus to 70-odd years of German car engineering and that just says it all.
The Plaid is the best one for sure !!!!!!!!!
Great content Rory - what a machine that Tesla is, game changer...
Such a shame we can only buy in left hand drive in the UK
*Such a beastly ninja of a car!*
All Tesla brakes work just fine in normal use, what they don't do well is repeated hard braking such as you do on a race track in which case they will overheat. If you are overheating your brakes on the road you are a danger to other road users. If you're tracking your Tesla you should upgrade the brakes.
Same applies to all cars including a lot of sports cars yet people still need to be told, sad.
Say that again after watching Throttle House's Plaid vs 911 Turbo S and GT-R video. The standard brakes on the car are downright dangerous.
Except plaid track pack has different style brakes compared to all other Tesla's. So you're totally fine tracking a plaid track pack, as explained in the video..
@@snakeeyes9246 not very bright are you? The reason the Plaid took so long to stop in the Throttle House video is because the car was doing 150+ in the quarter mile.. so because it was traveling faster than any other car Throttle House had ever tested it's going to take a longer distance to stop. I have a Plaid... I'll never track the car. I don't want to spend $20K on brakes I'll never use... besides, ceramic brakes actually suck until they get hot... then they bite well.
@@snakeeyes9246 2nd run against the Porsche. (Dude driving the Tesla looking like Dark Helmet going to Plaid, WTF, over acting just a little!) Notice when Porsche turns around he has to drive back towards the start to meet the Plaid, so Plaid stopped before Porsche. Obviously Porsche could stop sooner than Plaid but Plaid driver is so hamming this up for the cameras.
Also note how much runway is left when Porsche makes it’s turn.
Plaid brakes work fine UNLESS you’re going to make repeated emergency stops from very high speed…which you obviously wouldn’t be doing on the highway! If you intend to track your Plaid get the Track Package.
This is so awesome, the price comparison to what you get is unbelievable 😮
While waiting in Drag Strip Mode, batteries are warming up, not cooling down! The warmer the batteries the better the performance. That's why people hit "Navigate to a Supercharger" to heat up the batteries before the drag race. On the opposite side, the motors perform best when at lower temp.
They should make a Plaid R with bucket seats, more aggressive aero, better tuned steering and suspension and bump up the power a bit.. They could very well compete with the Lucid Air Sapphire with minimal updates..
I think Unplug Performance does the aero + suspension for Plaids. Keep in mind, they also sponsor Randy Pobst for the Pikes Peak hill climb.
They more than compete with lucid air sapphire, they leave them in the dust
@@publicsectordirect982 You meant Lucid Air with 1111HP and two motors. Lucid Saphire is like 250$K car and is quicker than this Plaid though. You have to give Lucid their props.
@@TheReal_JG Sapphire is the latest one which was released about a week ago and is faster than the Plaid, run's quarter mile in 8's..
Lucid Air Sapphire is awesome, but its $250k, and Lucid is STILL losing money on it lol, Sapphire is probably better, but 2.5x better? ehhh hard to justify
Nice review! Hope to see you try out the car with the "Zero-G" track package rims and the "Goodyear Supercar 3R" semi slick tires.
Unfortunately not road legal in Europe
@@guru2899 it is now. Was only illegal for a few weeks before it was allowed on street.
Best bang for your buck in the world.
loses half the buck you paid in just a few years while a Porsche GT3 or GT4 keeps most of it's value. Also the much quicker sun 9 seconds quarter mile 0-60 in 1.66 seconds Dodge Demon is 100k (the Plaid 120k in Europe).
@@THEREALZENFORCE I love when people like you get reduced to the "value" argument. 🤣
Here's a fun fact, ANY CAR will hold its value if you don't drive it. Also, the Dodge Demon is only good on a prepped surface, with race gas, and drag radials, in good weather. The Plaid will run high 9's in the rain. 🤷
Now you know.. 😘
probably the best video ever made on the Tesla model S plaid track pack ... INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't like the Tesla but I love this YT channel!
Tell them we need a Tv show
You should do the same testing with the Model 3 Performance w/ Track Package. It's every bit as fun and does cornering even better than the S Plaid simply do to its size and geometry.
There's no Model 3 Performance with track package. I think you're talking about track mode.
@@justrandomthings319 Yes, track mode which is what he's referring to in this video as well. The Model 3 P also comes with larger brakes and sport tires, which is basically a stock track package.
At the Tesla Shop, u can order a real track pack for Model 3 with Track Tires and Brakes. At least in Germany
@@justrandomthings319track pack exist for the model 3 performance dumb
Wow wasn’t expecting that from Tesla
I mean what does it take to make a nice smart guy talking about what we love in manner that we like. Without pretentiousness. Thx man
Need the Track Package Tesla 😮
First of all it’s not to cool the battery. It’s to warm it up. Second, it’s not 20 mins; it’s variable depending on the status at the time you go into drag strip mode. It can be a couple of mins only.
So, the handling front and rear doesnt eliminate all power in front or the rear, but rather controls under/oversteer balance. The model 3 performance did this years before the plaid with track/drift mode and abundance of tire shredding power and torque. This is actual to heavy compared to the model 3 performance imo... If the m3p just had 200 more hp, it would all but eliminate the need for the fat wide plaid at track. For scca, I would never choose the plaid, but would choose the m3p, which won scca nationals recently!
Great review. Loved your passion for the Tesla.
FYI for all you lot who don’t live in or visit California often, just so know you, the CA roads are literally crawling in S/X plaids. No joke you will hardly believe how many you’ll see 😊
Gem of a video rory !!
I watched a Porsche GT2RS do 267kph on the Nurburgring back straight then the same driver did 306 in this mental machine! A family sedan!
Why do u say family sedan like it's gas powered. Electric obv has its advantages. Even the lucid air which is faster then this is a family sudan. The thing is the teslas overheat after 1 lap.
Time for Rory to test the Sapphire.
Before they go bust
When you filled it up did you use premium electricity ?
It doesn’t have shoulder support seats because it’s a sedan that happens to be the fastest thing on the road.
This car looks soooooo dated lol. That Taycan will age like wine in comparsion to this Buick.
The battery on a taycan ages like milk thanks to their poor coolings solution for the pouch cells, tesla has tripple the warranty for 3x cheaper
No it won't. The price for used Taycan has completely crashed. You have almost have to pay people to take the car.
@@mortenkrogh8599 because its an EV. The Model Y depreciates more than an S Class lmao
I never thought I ever could be hooked on a car channel.
Yes it's a cracking car
Seeing this, anyone who still claims EVs don´t evoke "emotion" and have no "soul" really are just into ICE vibrations and noise and NOTHING else. But the greatest trick the Tesla pulls here is having this tremendous performance when wanted but also being a comfy day-to-day family car... literally at the switch of a button. Or rather, touch of settings on screen.
There´s no car on this planet that can match this combination of power and everyday usefulness at that price. Teslas are not the best cars, surely not, but bring the game to price brackets that just are marvellous.
I love Tesla. I love Rory. I love love this video!
*Where are the track package forged wheels?*
Not available in uk.
@@Just_a_random_birb It looks like this car is registered in France...
@@rashad123us semi slick tires are not legal in some countries.
What a car! Tesla ❤And look at the price.mind blowing
Well explained, well edited.
Wow i did not expect that,... wonder what the model 3 Plaid is going to be like?.
Hopefully:
0-62 in 2,5
1/4 mile in 9,7
Better brakes
50000$
@@mortenkrogh85990-60: under 3s
1/4 mile: 10s range
Sportier look and feel
650-800 hp
60-65K
hey!! Is this the old Top Gear Track ???
Accelerates harder, corners harder, feels like a race car. Tesla on top.
It’s slower than ice cars with half the bhp on track. 😂
Even a Shirmer bmw M2 with 370bhp is 15 seconds faster around the Nurburgring that’s 1000bhp plaid track pack.
@@lloyd.8272 lol are you tripping bro 😂😂
"Feels like a race car" with 1020hp struggles to do a 7min 25 seconds on the Nordschleife while the Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo does 5 minutes 19 seconds, more than 2 minutes quicker per lap which is an entire different universe of speed and handling
@@ThanasisGrivas The 550hp Bmw M4 CSL did 7minutes 18 seconds on the Nordschleife while bad handling Plaid track pack did 7 minutes 25 seconds, and the regular Plaid a bad 7 minutes 35 seconds, a 370hp Bmw M2 did 7 minutes 33 seconds. Tesla fans don't know much about cars.
@@THEREALZENFORCE ok kepp your slightly better lap time, I'm fine knowing that I will never loose a drag race at any stop light. And will win almost all races at the dragstrip.
I really enjoyed your video review, it was awesome.
The panel gaps are a complete non issue.
For you
Well as an ex employee who would have customers refuse delivery due to panel gaps.....after waiting a year for a X or S...... which are better than the 3 and Y by miles.....Tesla puts the cars with the WORST panel gaps in the showroom as display models because there are so FEW good cars lol with panel gaps........the interior gaps can be INSANE...the cars are around $30K overpriced but Rich people keep consuming trying to one up the other and that trickles down to the lower economic classes because why can't we have the best too? Well because you don't make enough money so we finance ( middle - lower class ) and get in debt just to get our share of excess.
Yeah on a 1996 Honda Civic that costs 900 bucks and has 6 different colored doors, sure 😅 on a 120k car, panel gaps need to be perfect. But we already know that Elon is more for himself than for the customer.
Porsche should make an update for all taycans. This front to rear power bias setting is a game changer.
Taycan and Audi aren't even in the same universe compared to the Tesla....
WLTP for the Taycan is 458km while the PLAID is 695km
Taycan also weighs more than the PLAID which is ridiculous since the model S is MUCH bigger.
That said,i drove the Plaid and it should be illegal on the street, absolutely ridiculously fast
Plaid range 345 miles, upcoming Audi A6 e-tron 400 miles.
Nio ET7 already 620 miles for some time now
Tesla seems to be a universe behind in terms of range.
"i drove the Plaid and it should be illegal on the street, absolutely ridiculously fast"
1) you men quick not fast 2) on the German Autobahn cars do way faster speeds
3) a Porsche 992GT3RS, GT2RS, GT4 a Bmw M4 CSL, M3 CSL, Camaro ZL1, Viper ACR, Lotus Exige, Ausdi TTRS ABT will easily gap the Plaid in twisty roads, even more on mountain roads where the Plaid might fall down the hill from the roadside. Also any modern 200 to 240hp 1000cc motorcycle once rolling start is as quick in a straight line and even quicker in twistys, the Plaid could not even keep up with a small cc KTM Duke 890R 117hp, The Superduke 1290 RR would obliterate the Plaid in mountain roads.
In the US ,Europe and Russia there are 1500hp to over 2000hp modded cars (Bmw's, Lambos, and others they obliterate the Plaid in acceleration, especially on rolling start and top speed and many are still road legal
@@THEREALZENFORCEbut none of those cars can accommodate 5 people, 5 suitcases, a roofbox and towing a 2000 pound boat?
@@THEREALZENFORCE150kwh vs 100kwh battery....
If the Tesla had Porsche's build quality and that supreme handling, it would probably be the best car itw at that price.
And an Audi interior instead of the Ikea crap it has
@@hasangenc2922 I think I prefer a Porsche interior. I also know for a fact that BMW have amazing interiors that I'd love in a Tesla.
I don't think the digital age generation would find the "bomber cockpit" style knob clutter attractive - they see that as overwhelming and old fashioned.
They prefer clean modern interiors and find themselves quite at home, as they live and breath cellphones and tablets.
Just a different target market.
@@giovannifoulmouth7205e tron gt has a nice interior.
@@giovannifoulmouth7205 dont think Teslas will ever have a nice interior. Will always look like an ikea kitchen.
To think that this is about half the cost of a Taycan Turbo S in the US is absolute insanity
And unlike taycan, it hasn't been recalled over fire risk.
i feel the 'panel gaps' is over played now. The thing is air tight with a full size HEPA filter. how many modern cars can float?
Saw a guy load his model S with sand bags and drive underwater with it twice, still worked weeks after until he crashed it at 1000mph.
The only tesla i like in looks and knowing they've added good brakes and suspension but i hate the panel gaps
What do you think about them making the new Model 3 look more like the S? I think it looks a lot better despite the cockroachy shape
It is not a gap but air deck.
No-one really cares about the panel gaps. Lots of "great" and famous supercars have huge panel gaps and nobody ever cared. It's just something the german car makers pushed in the press when they realised that Tesla had them beaten.
Good grief… panel gaps is so overblown. That’s like one of the only things the haters can find against Tesla.
@@shou635 Things against Tesla :
1. loses over half it's worth in a few years, way more than most brands
2. unreliable FSD, that is still at level 2 and only uses cameras no radar
3. cheap looking interior for a 90k to 110k car
4. Panel Gaps and outdated mid 2000s car look
5. almost no physical buttons, most stuff via touchsreen, no 360 parking view
6. vaporware selling and often lying cult leader (only a marketing genius)
7. gullible and toxic Teslafanboys (see comment section as proof)
8. Stock buyers who spread misinformation and try to overhype Tesla brand to make profit (see comment section as proof)
Things for Tesla : great acceleration in a straight line for the price
Let's acknowledge too, the Plaid was designed as a high end sedan, not a racecar. So much more spacious compared to the competition. It is reliable too. - don't get me started on German engineering...
Imagine spending over 100k on a car that looks like a 2008 Ford Mondeo.
great video, but regarding your remark about how "most EVs tend to run out of steam at higher speeds", that's not really a problem with EVs, it's a problem with their transmission. Most manufacturers don't bother putting multi-speed transmissions on EVs because profit-wise it's not worth it, so they usually just put a single short final drive ratio. This means that the car maxes out the motor's rpm way too soon, and is only limited by motor spin speed rather than power. Given them another gear or a longer final drive ratio and they'll easily get higher top speed. If you aren't convinced, just look at how high the top speeds of EV bullet trains are compared to steam or even diesel-electric locomotives. Electric is literally meant for top speed.
Edit: forgot to mention that current EV cars are only using permanent magnet DC motors rather than the AC motors on bullet trains. AC motors have constant torque so the hp just keeps increasing as the rpm increases and can reach some extreme numbers
Probably the closest we're gonna get until the roadster actually comes
It will be here in 20never
@@bob-qi4nr2026
@@KP-xi4bj Dream on
@@bob-qi4nr Cybertruck coming in 2024, Model 2 coming 2025 and Roadster 2.0 coming in 2026. Get with the program! LMFAO SMH
Byd U9 Yangwang as quick, better exterior, interior and suspension and two times cheaper than the Roadster.
The Brit’s used to use American auto manufacturers as punching bags. It’s nice to see Tesla bring back some pride in American vehicles that are loved around the world 👍
But its rivals cost 2 to 4 times more, weigh more, have way less power and features, plus no supercharging👀 I'm not paying double the price to have a car with no panel gaps. Also why are you complaining about the noise? I thought it was a negative thing to car enthusiasts that electric cars make no noise? You can barely hear the noise inside the car, let alone going 100mph on the track
"I thought it was a negative thing to car enthusiasts that electric cars make no noise?" Engine noise not fan noise. What a noob statement
Rory said it himself, the Taycan has way better handling and steering feel, and it has right hand drive for the UK market. Also, the point about the panel gaps is for the price that the Tesla is, it shouldn't have any just like other premium vehicles (such as the Audi/Porsche) i.e. you can forgive panel gaps on a $20,000 mitsubishi mirage, but not a $20,000 option package for an already expensive car
@@SirFlukealot expensive car? Bruh it's only $89k to get the second quickest car in the world. Plus it fully drives itself on all roads, is the smartest car out there and has a range of 400 miles
@@SirFlukealot well considering that the Taycans just had a global recall (again) for battery issues when it comes to quality y’all sure don’t seem to do research as to why people pick teslas. At least you know the drive train and batteries are reliable compared to other brands and honestly those other brands have tons of issues as well. Definitely would pick a model s over a Taycan for the price difference alone but hey everyone is free to have their own opinions but most people as the sales have shown will do their research before buying a brand that looks better on paper but is worse living with.
The Taycan Turbos S with options cost as much as two Model S Plaid's in the USA with less power, less range, less cargo space, not as safe, worse technology and weight 500lbs more lol. The Taycan has quality... Must be fun to go to a car show and talk about panel gaps to people; they must be really impressed lol.
I always trust Rory to be objective and he didn't disappoint. I also compared the Taycan to Model S and felt the same way. What really stood out to me about the new Tesla is how it keeps pulling. Even over 100 it feels faster than a 720S, and unless you're spending millions for a Rimac, that is truly exceptional performance from an EV! That I can almost get two Plaids now for the price of one nicely equipped Turbo S is just gravy.
How do they roll the car off the production line with those panel gaps?
U mean the Taycan?
The Plaid is the best highest performance machine ever made in the world period !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( I mean affordable one for $ 82K:)
Awesome car and in a different league to the Germans. Lets not even mention the charging network from the Germans because there is none :D
You have Ionity...somewhere😅
Nürburgrng laptimes and Pikes Peak Hillclimb and i see a lot of German cars before any Tesla laptimes
@@THEREALZENFORCEwithout emission and soace for 5 people and towing a 2000pound boat?
@@mortenkrogh8599 Towing a 2000 pound boat ? Jeep Cherokee 4500lbs, Audi Q5 4400lbs, a cheap Toyota Rav4 can even tow 3500lbs, so a 1000hp Plaid can only tow 2000lbs 😆
I thought that putting the car into drag-strip mode and waiting for peak performance readiness took time because the batteries need to fully heat up. You said they need cool down. That seems incorrect or am I missing something.
Model S keeps getting better and better... they really need to work on their fit and finish, and some sporty seats for crying out loud
id like to see cheaper models get better too tbh
They should work on a brand new version of that car. Not some refresh with minor updates but a complete overhaul.
Is that dunsfold? Sure I recognised Gambon corner
Rory is the best!
Proper BEAST 👊
Its really a semi-magical technology. It will really force the super/hyper cars to go EV, else they will never gain the performance crown.
Magical? Is that why this 1020HP car can't beat a 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE on any track ever?
@@bob-qi4nryep magical, this car holds 3 more passengers and 5x the luggage to the finish line.
@@miguellopez3392yeah, but whats the point when its slower than a base 992 on the ring. Racing is about being faster.
@@Euromasterrace5000 because race cars suck to drive in any other time than a race track.
@@miguellopez3392 A Bmw M4 beats the Plaid by 7 seconds per laptime on the Nordschleife
The Rimac Concept One had the technology where you could choose between rear wheel drive, all wheel drive or front wheeldrive. In the Rimac Concept One the driver could choose which percent of power could go to the front wheels or rear wheels
Yes and was so unbalanced with it, it went off a road, crashed, and caught fire.
The nevera with 1900bhp is slower than a 500bhp Porsche around the Nurburgring.
If you detuned the Nevera to the same power as the Porsche it would really show how terrible the weight and chassis is.
No track enthusiast would take a 2ton ev with computers controlling everything for you.
Tesla’s track mode can do this as well. Anywhere between 100% front to 100% rear, or 50/50 split for AWD.
Fantastic car 🚗 👌
I’m always confused since none of these options are on the website or listed when you want to build and price. Tesla needs to improve on that
Interior still looks like the 40k model 3
Where do you get a 40k model S?
@@mortenkrogh8599 meant model 3
@@The_hustletown_PA-Cbut the interior is way different from the model 3. And both model 3 and S have now pretty nice interior.
@@mortenkrogh8599 check out the Taycan interior. My buddies plaid steering wheel is like half leather half alcantara from the peeling lol
Man, can't wait for front air intake with flaps, pathing under/trough the car for cooling the battery while intense driving
Too bad the upcoming Taycan Turbo Gt will make this look like a 90s Kia. Just a Tesla at the end of the day.
It won't have the same endurance or ability to hit top speed, the plaid isn't just a bunch of power slapped onto a car, its built to handle that power without cooking itself.
You can bet its warranty will end at 50k while tesla keeps its 150k mile warranty
@@Victor-vj5ds Dont be so desperate, its just Tesla.
@@safakhan3088 and its just a porsche
@@Victor-vj5ds Desperate.
0:22 that slide didn’t look very controlled, when it comes to drifting, a properly set up car will almost do it for you, on top of that that’s a lot of suspension lean for a sporty car
Remember, it’s still a family sedan by design minus software tweaks for the air suspension and to up the speed limiter to 204 mph. The Only hardware added are brakes and tires. It wasn’t designed from the ground up to be a sports sedan like an M3.
Mental🤯