Uncle is Red Harlow proof 2020
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2020
- This is what i have to show y'all so far, please feel free to ask me anything in the comments, ex if you dont understand a certain point i give in the video or something like that, please no hate i worked on this since Nov 2019. I have Checked my information 3-4 times to make sure there were no mistakes or misunderstandings. Ps- this video is my personal opinion, none of this can be 100% proven unless R* themselves say this is 100% legit, therefore take this with a grain of salt if you will. You have to admit the clips i have sure do seem like proof enough for me. also words might be misspelled in the video, English is not my first spoken language.
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I think this has gone on long enough...This video was uploaded on the 10th anniversary of Red Dead Redemption, it was to celebrate an old "DEBUNKED THEORY" that means "fake" "proven false"...This video is for entertainment...its meant to be nostalgic for old players who have seen the Uncle Harlow theories from 2010-2011, i keep it in the style of the original, as real looking as possible...i really did go all out for this video...i also uploaded a face comparison of uncle & Red...these videos are not meant to be taken too seriously. Please stop bullying kids who believe this theory,
if you tell them this theory is false and they don't believe you or argue back please ignore them.
Finally, but too late cuz half of the internet believes he is now and actually think your proofs are for real.
It’s a great fan theory to poke around at, but Rock Star likes to separate its games. It’s like how GTA San Andreas isnt in the same universe as GTA V
@@KC.45First off im sorry, i never expected in 1000 years that this video would have blown up the way it did. I thought it would have gotten 2k views tops due to its "clickbaitey" nature...but its been up since May and most people who believe it won't change their mind now, its like religion to them now or something lol, so im just gonna let them believe what they want...its not really hurting anyone. Plus it brings more attention to Red Dead.
@@BelligerentIAm yeah its why i made the video in the first place, in 2010 it was such an over the top wtf theory, so many people where outraged at the thought of Uncle, the drunken old man living on John's ranch being Red Harlow...but in 2020 it really shocked me that so many people actually believed it and even wished it to be true. Maybe they just want it to be true for the memes, but still...its suprising how positive the feedback was for this 10 year old theory that was absolutely hated when it was first created.
@@HOUNDxROYALZ I mean some of it genuinely sounds believable, of course other things not so much. Besides Rock Star uses old games to inspire characters for new games all the time. It’s like the GTA theory about Lester and Zero
It would sort of be ironic that the character that is usually thought of as a joke by the other characters was actually one of the best gunfighters in the Red Dead series.
Red Harlow was the best gunslinger of the series
Hey I'm your 200th like
I don't think he's red Harlow but it would be hilarious
Red Harlow isnt uncle because red isn’t “real” , red dead revolver is an exaggeration. That’s why the stories get told at camps a lot.
@@HERBWELSHMAN uncle one shots every npc in the game
Uncle fell at a ranch defending his family just like his parents did, poetic
Mongolsboy why is every word capitalized
It’s like poetry it rhymes
@@Adam_X78 "It's like a dead meme, it's not funny anymore" ftfy
Dutch Died at the Bottom of A mountain
*spoiler*
Arthur Morgan died at the top
Thats how he got LUmBaGO
I still choose to believe Uncle is Red Harlow. I just like the idea that an old man who never wants to fight used to be the greatest gunslinger in the Wild West.
Honestly, he probably stopped fighting because of his legendary status. I can't imagine it's very pleasant to be known as a killer or, for that matter, to kill others in the first place no matter what they did.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 nah he stop fighting because LUMBAGO
In rd1
He was jesus christ the day of his death
Actually if looked at the year, red Harlow was in his 20s during 1880 and uncle said sometime between the fall of '49 and the fall of Rome, so he was in his 30s around 1880. And the fact the he said that he was know as the one shot kid in his youth, my best bet that he’s not red Harlow probably knew him in person. Because when you go back there’s a character name curly Shaw and he look similar to uncle and that he was born the year of 1842, he was 37 in the year of 1880.
@@Zigzagonein60seconds 🤣😤
I love how they made Uncle more cheerful in the beginning of RDR2 than he was towards the end of RDR2 and the majority RDR1. You can tell he felt like he had another family taken from him when Dutch turned on everyone.
Pretty sure quite everyone frankly
True
And also the way John abuses Uncle and forces him to work he has no respect for the elderly Uncle trys his best to make people laugh but johns always shuts him up or threatens him not to talk about those times anymore.
@@ArthurMorgan_5074 the reason he would shut uncle up was because uncle was a freeloading asshole
@@ArthurMorgan_5074 to be fair, I understand why John would feel that way especially after everything that happened
I love the idea of uncle being a secret badass who everyone underestimates.
The guy is definitely smarter than everyone gives him credit for.
My picks fro red dead three protagonists 1) Charles 2)young uncle
@@RK-ej1to I hope so
Whether or not he is Red, he certainly is a badass. He gives his life to save the Marstons.
they used to call him the one shot kid y’know.
John could learn a thing or two from uncle about hiding his identity...
John was for real an idiot when he gave his real full name to both the post office in Strawberry and the bank in Blackwater.
I don't know. I always liked that about John. Kicks a door open I'm John Marston shoots everyone then wins a duel and walks out.
@@joshuanoble5895 ME LLAMO JOHN MARSTON
Who's John Marston? I do know a fellow named Jim Milton though, a real course and rough feller.
PaulTheLoser never heard of a jim milton i do know a rip van winkle tho good fella
In 2010, was he meant to be Red Harlow? No.
Is he officially Red Harlow? Never.
Did Rockstar leave enough hints in RDR2 to make it possible he's Red Harlow? Yes.
Is he Red Harlow in my mind? Absolutely.
Happy to see you actually understand the video for what it is 🤠👍
Same with me
He’s not but rockstar purposely is doing this for some reason they like to amp up the rumors and shit bc they know it’s clearly not it and do it to poke fun at those who think it
@@leopardtree2249 pretty much. Thats the reason the mount chiliad "mystery" exists lol
Yeah, Red and Uncle are *not* the same person because _Red Dead Redemption_ and _Red Dead Revolver_ take place in different universes.
I always liked Uncle, he stood ground against an entire US Army detachment trying to protect Marston Ranch. As Arthur, I always respected him.
Here’s the thing too uncle was really fucking smart too, early on rdr 2 he called Dutch on his bs and constantly saw through micah. Also he was able to last quite a while against the army when they stormed johns ranch. Not only was he smart, he was not gullible but also good at fighting
When Uncle is talking to John about the ranch in the epilogue his intelligence is truly apparent. His work ethic is what makes most underestimate him
@@stantoncree95 yeah when he does actually work and doesn’t ‘work’ the bottle
@@TheBrownCoyote He has Lumbago so he deserves a drink to relax. 👍
You forgot to mention how tough he was when he was getting his back burned off
@@woah9122 i totally forgot about that part and I remember feeling nauseated during that whole scene ugh
This explains how Uncle was able to fight like he did at the end of Red Dead Redemption.
he fought and died like an absolute champ
Its super poetic, because it’s like he has a chance to redeem what happened to his family by saving John’s
@5xNFLMVP PeytonManning that's not true at all, he died later on in the fight
@5xNFLMVP PeytonManning and he was really old
5xNFLMVP PeytonManning nice one genius 😂
I like this theory. Makes Uncle seem more like an Uncle Iroh figure, but with rougher edges and more laziness. He's got his wisdom and he's seen his share, but decided to find his peace in each moment he can even if it doesn't come often or easy. Eventually, he found himself with a family that looked too familiar, and stuck around in the hopes it might go better for them this time.
He might not have been created to be Red, but over time rockstar has done A LOT to turn him into Red. In my opinion, he’s Red for sure. When you have multiple coincidences in a row, all about the same person, then you can’t deny it. He’s Red.
Red and Uncle are *not* the same person because _Red Dead Redemption_ and _Red Dead Revolver_ take place in different universes.
@@amortality999who said that?
@@opticfloyyyd It was confirmed. Look it up.
@@amortality999 they can confirm all they want rdr1 has campfire stories about them
@@Gxdl3ss rdr2 too
The bullet Uncle took at the ranch didn't kill him. It was his Lumbago that did it. When he was shot, his defenses were dropped, and his back finally gave out.
Damn Lumbago! took another legendary gunslinger away from us 😂😂😂
What if that’s actually why he died in the fight 🤣
The bullet and lumbago: *Partners in crime*
Well hes in Tahiti now his heaven
FatGuyPlayingTheBongos it is
I like how the child version of Red Harlow is just the normal model but smaller.
Mini Harlow
lmao
He reminds me of jack with the whole pa thing
Pocket harlow
Harlow Lite
I respect the restraint the writers had for not spilling the beans completely at some point online. So much work, and only identifiable to people who care to look for it.
Kudos. Makes perfect sense why Uncle functions as the angel on the gang's shoulders... and why he was, thematically, among the last to go.
If RDR3 is a prequel to the 2nd, imagine playing young Dutch meeting Hosea, Arthur and presumably Red, maybe as a secondary antagonist, and then years later as the good old Uncle
i feel like uncle would be milking the fact that he was half native American every time he spoke to Charles if he actually was
Maybe after his first hand experiences with Shadow Wolf and what the tribes were going through he knew better/had more respect than that
@Toland Belmar mm i won't argue that he might or may have mentioned it (with or without liquor) but i just imagine it would be in a more serious/darker tone, not necessarily something stupid or silly. Look at it this way, the first Native he ever saw slain was his mother, i wouldn't be surprised if the two topics/trauma was associated to him.
Like saying something like "hey im half Native btw" might immediately remind him of the trauma of seeing his parents slain at 9 y/o
People often forget or don't know that alot of people use humor as a coping mechanism to hide and mask true scars/trauma. Alot of the biggest jokers/jesters and arguably best comedians have been in their personal lives deeply depressed and hurt people.
Anyway thats my Tedtalk thanks for reading 🤣😅
Idiot's not the same universe
@Toland Belmar he's probably referencing the wiki "Red Dead Redemption is not a direct sequel to Red Dead Revolver, instead it is a loosely-based spiritual successor to the previous title." And also "Rockstar Games writer and producer Dan Houser also stated that the game's events take place in its own canon." But honestly for me one PR statement makes it hard to ignore that fact that they put time and effort into making reoccurring places, characters and legends that hint it all takes place in the same world.
But this isn't the first time a game has had "official cannon" conflict with easter eggs and hints.
At the end of the day it is all fiction anyway.
Whos to say the games dont take place in parallel yet virtually identical universe.
One universe where uncle is Red Harlow and one universe where he might just think he is, aswell as any other variation of possibilities
@Toland Belmar Explain lol rockstar said it themselves any characters from their games the 2D Universe isn't in the same universe as the HD man how fucking stupid are you
"I used to be Red Harlow in the past, but then I took a lumbago in the back."
LMAO HAHA, this comment is HIGHLY underrated
I know who uncle is
@@user-wn9mp8tj4o An Adventurer.
*“I once was an adventurer like you then I took an arrow to the knee”*
2 legendary games in one comment
Y'know....I remember watching videos like this back in 2012......really hits at home with the nostalgia.
This has been the most logical and probable explanation of what happened to "Red" and who "Uncle" really was. Well done good sir.
So in one of the missions uncle said "man I wasn't that fast" so that's why you can't sprint in red dead revolver
Wow.... Rockstar, you're a strange developer that's for sure.
Or you know, engine limitations back then... sprinting could have likely "broke" the game in multiple ways so it was left out. Even today, if you get enough speed you'll break through walls in almost every game, then likely be stuck somewhere you weren't mean to reach.
@@LilGamingYes but San Andreas also released in 2004 and had sprinting mechanics
@@jpeterson213 different engines though. Sprinting has been a thing forever but different engine handles it differently.
@@carinhatube3727 .
After playing RD1 I never antagonized uncle because of what he did. Sure he was a little lazy but he was always respectful, funny, and never did anyone in the camp wrong
of course he didnt do anything bad he never did anything lol
I cant help it.. he always give out funny responses 🤣
Now we know why he was so bitter and unhappy in RDR1. Tragic story actually what happened to that man over time.
@@GlennDavey For sure, the breakup and betrayal of the only family he ever knew is enough to drive any man bitter. He’s blessed that John invited him to love with him otherwise I think uncle would have found the bottom of a whiskey bottle and stayed there.
I literally try to greet him but th greet mechanisim just insults him literaly greeting uncle is like antogonising him but a soft version
Imagine like final moments of rdr1 when John and Uncle look at the attackers. I always thought, they could defeat them if red harlow was young
As much evidence there is of uncle not being red Harlow, I choose to believe his is, because the idea of him being an old gunslinger legend, but choosing not to fight, is the coolest damn backstory
“While I give your mom her gifts”
AKA gotta lay down the pipe
🤣😂🤣
AKA make beast with too backs?, AKA Four legged foxtrot? AKA Giving the dog a bone? AKA Playing with the box the kid came in? did you know there are over 400 of these? XD I DIDNT till just now.
@@Xunethqualn playing with the box the kid came 😂
The ol stay outside for abit while I spend time with your mom line. Classic. At least they died getting some "gifts".
But there's no pipe in RDR tho
him being a drunk makes sense in order to recover health you drink whiskey in Revolver
It's how he deals with the pain from his terminal *l u m b a g o*
That's how I recover my health too how ironic.
Alcohol: the cause and solution to every problem
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@@Richardkitts1914 do you need an ambulance?
All your theories are on point. I kind of also believed for the longest time that there's more to Uncle that meets the eye. Sure he comes off as an annoying, good for nothing and lazy old man, but when it comes to sticking up for the people that matter, Uncle has never been one to back down. All his intentions were good and we can see that he knows a lot more than meets the eye. If we ever get RDR3 and Uncle gets written in as Red Harlow, it'll blow everyone's minds
Maybe just a subtle detail. Like papers from the bank with his name on them
Rest in peace to the dog that was killed in this video... 😔
Everyone was so mean to Uncle. He was an old man. No one just let him enjoy himself.
It's understandable why
@@jackcassidy9963 they were a family all looking out for each other. Uncle was lazy but he’s old. Give him a break.
@@mnmfreak502 Hosea, Dutch, and Susan were also old
@@jackcassidy9963 and they were well respected. Susan wasn’t by a certain few.
@@jackcassidy9963 Hosea is actually 5 years older than uncle too.
Man, I would pay good money for a Red Dead Revolver remaster on RDR2's engine
And make it open world
Indeed
@Dean Robin Plus now that the RDR2 characters are new, (yes it's 2 Years ago but time flied way too quick) they can easily put em in RDR1.
Yeah man such a masterpiece at the time would be great to get it remastered
@@MariusBoss11458 Uh,,, I think that IS going to happen, I mean theres gonna come out the outlaws collection which is RDR1 and 2 aaand the RDR1 is a remake with more missions characters and the RDR2s engine
Uncle has always been the smartest character to me. Dudes wanted dead or alive and he litteraly dissapears.. falls in with Dutch and he let's Dutch take all the heat off him. We all then think uncle is a worthless character when really he even had the player fooled.
Uncle is 10/10 confirmed best character
This video is done incredibly, I see larger theory youtubers saying things such as its implausible and unlikely, but how you've put it here makes everything work out, in my opinion, Rockstar couldn't have done this unless it meant something (or they were just teasing us). Either way, well done, this was incredibly made
Even if Uncle wasn’t first intended to be Red Harlow, I feel like Rockstar just really wants us to believe he is
The stuff in RDR2 are Easter eggs to the Uncle Harlow theory from 2010. Even tho it was debunked in 2011 alot of people still seem to love the theory in the 2020s. R* probably know this and add those details in the game to make us more curious of Uncle's "REAL" backstory im not talking about Red Harlow.
I think that he was a good outlaw but something happened that he became an alcoholic.
@@KC.45 yeah, great observation skills ...
@@addictedtoRS I wanna know why he has a Schofield revolver instead of a cattleman like most the gang members
@@HOUNDxROYALZ how/ when was it debunked?
I love on how one of the laziest characters in red dead might be red Harlow
He isn’t Red Harlow though, doesn’t even have the facial scars
@@brysonkuervers2570 the beard probably covers it up
@@daviddank8902 it does.
@@Jake-TorukMakto-Sully i had to take couple more looks
@@daviddank8902 it’s not him
Uncle was 62 in 1911, 12 years after 1899, Uncle was 50 in 99. Meaning he could possibly be Red Harlow.
Yes we know we saw the video...
I've never played rdr, but I like your theory! I also immediately had to think of the song "Red".
I imagine that when little Jack was born, Abigail couldn't decide on a name, so Uncle suggested Jack to her. But I don't know if Red and Jack Swift were friends...
Well if memory serves he did die helping Red attack the Governor to get vengeance. Could be Uncle wanted to honor a man he respected
I got it. Red Dead Redemption 3, Uncle/Red Harlow, leading up to how he joined Dutch’s gang, and perspective changed to young Arthur.
make it a remake of revolver and extend the story up to the Van Der linde gang!
I'd prefer Remakes of all 3 games and then rdr 3 as the last part with Jack Marston in the 1920s
nah Arthur young like 20 leading all the way to black water robbery
@@Wieeinbird1979 THAT WOULD LITERALLY BE STUPID
@@jaunjarloss6088 This is also a stupid and trash idea.
“I used to be a gunslinger like you....
then I took a lumbago in the back”
Can you atleast try to make ur comment original
@@buenoazzbeaten5607 a quote isnt origina,it’s a quote
LordSlug it was meant to be satire
@@buenoazzbeaten5607 lol almost nothing is original in the internet dumbass, there is always someone taking something from someone
@@josh_the_alien
true
amazing detective work and compilation of the facts, crazy theory especially if it ends up being revealed to be true at some point in our lives. one thing i will say is the pacing could’ve been a bit faster, people with adhd or those who find trouble focusing in general could find it a bit harder to follow but prime video all around, good work here dude!!!!!
It's why I love TH-cam's playback speed options. I'm always on 1.75 or 2
God the style on this thing is immaculate, the white text that slightly overlaps/fades-in is so good. Exactly how I remember these videos being.
I tried hard to make it look and feel like the ones from 2010-2012 with a modern twist, happy to see you enjoyed it.
Uncle: "See, back in my day, everyone spoke like cartoon characters!"
"what the hell's a 'cartoon'? Quit blatherin' old man"
Well ain't that the Truth. Still even in RDR 1 they talked like that.
@Jesus Christ JESUS!!??
@Jesus Christ back then it sounded so natural tho 😂
T REX but he grew up in the south
Uncle the "one-shot kid"
Arthur: "I'm not gonna ask why"
One shot to the chest
funny enough, I did a test and Uncle actually one shots enemies easily
now that i read this , i kinda understand this in a different way ya know ^^
Whenever I first played rdr2 and heard that line I thought he was Billy the kid
I thought of Blazing Saddles, God Mel brooks left a scar on me.
I really hope they eventually make everything you brought up cannon! I’ve been tryin to make Red Dead Revolver and Redemption work together in my head for so long! Great video
While I definetly dont believe that essentially Clint Eastwood decided to just become Uncle Iro out of the blue, it is super cool that you found and tracked all four stages of his house throughout the games
Uncle also wears one glove on his right hand in rdr1. That’s the most blatant evidence I can see that you’re right. They expanded it in rdr2 by giving him slight burn scars and a red bandana, just in case it wasn’t obvious enough in the first one
@Keknov siblings dying at the age of 2 was common in the wild west
The biggest gripe with this theory is that Harlow looks and sounds like 14 to 16 year old in the cutscene where his parents die. Uncle says he was nine when his parents died. Red Harlow definitely was a good bit older than 9 when his parents died.
They do that because they know you boneheads are looking for it, and it keeps you coming back. They don't even have to work, or pay for market research. Just sit back and scroll the endless thread of theories...
@@mcstotti8691 let's look at it as a timeline though too.. things from the later red dead...like a car "the models used," the telegraph, the actual fbi not Pinkertons, the war in red dead when you blow up the bridge, you can pay homage to things but all of those would definitely put a bigger separation between red dead revolver and redemption
@@GVoodoo the theory is that red harlow and uncle are the same person so they would have lived the exact same lives. red harlow is definitely a teenager when his parents die. We also know uncle was 9 when his died. Unless one can definitely disproof this the theory is disproven. Trying to shift around the timeline does only change when things happened not the details of how they happened. This is a clear nod towards the theory not beeing true from rockstar. If they wanted to leave it amibigous they would have had uncle say he lost his parents at 12 because red harlow beeing a rather mature 12 year old could be the case. If they wanted to outright confirm it they would have had uncle say 14 or 15 because that would have been about the age harlow looks and sounds in that scene. But rockstar deliberately choose uncle to say nine which is just to young for him to be harlow.
And that reasoning pulls itself through the whole theory. Uncle has done a few things in a similar to red harlow but they are similar never the same when they would need to align a lot closer. And uncle lacks the grievous scars of harlow and no those aren't the kind of scars that just fade away. Into wrinkles. The details just dont match. And the details matching is the difference between a proving and disproving a theory.
Rockstar trailer: Uncle cleaning up after a gunfight; shaving in the mirror, slowly reveals 3 distinctive scars on his cheek. Music plays. *RED'S DEAD REDEMPTION*
God I sure hope not. Last thing we need is another abandonware rubbish "game".
Get Safe uncle died in rdr1 so it would have to take place before rdr2
@Dutch Van Der Linde Took them 7 whole months to put in something that wasn't limited time clothes to RDO but yeah trole xd
@@Peejayye that's the online...not the story mode. Story mode was amazing and i can't wait for the next chapter of the Red Dead franchise.
@@HOUNDxROYALZ If Rockstar plans on making a Red Dead Redemption 3 someday (maybe in about 2026 lol), I would like it to take place after the events of the first game. Perhaps it can take place in 1916 and have it be about Jack Marston. We can have some of the characters from the first game like Bonnie MacFarlane, Seth, and Nigel West Dickens reappear, take control of Jack again and find out what life has in store for him, take down the remaining gangs, have Sadie Adler return ONE LAST TIME, and somehow conclude the tale of the Marston and Van Der Linde gang and maybe cut to about a few years in the future to the 1920s where cars, streets, and cities are everywhere and find out what happens to Jack and if he has a wife and kids maybe. That's at least my thoughts. If some of you are wondering what happened to some of the characters from the first game there is a video that covered it. Here it is: th-cam.com/video/4RiF_jwNBgw/w-d-xo.html Perhaps RDR3 can cover this.
I like to think that Uncle is trying to change his story up a bit so it doesn't match with Red Harlow's story. Basically he's trying to hide the fact he's Red and is trying to not get any suspicion that he is Red.
Thats a really good theory
@HOUNDxROYALZ great job with this video man. It makes me more nostalgic when playing the rdr 2, good work
Crazy to think those graphics really looks real to us back then 😭
For real, at one point it was the closest thing graphically to real life we'd ever seen
Now we can only imagine what it will be like from here on out
Just saying red dead 1 still looks good
@@TheGooseGroup facts
Crazy to think after all those years your Grammer is that of a 6 year old.. grow up kid
What if uncle doesn’t have lumbago he’s has a bullet stuck in his lower back
He never had lumbago. He just thought it was a disease so he used it as an excuse to not work. He's just lazy and old...
the body would have tried to fight the foreign object, to the point he'd die of a fever
@@ioerror It's like you just told a little kid Santa isnt real
@@ioerror thanks for ruining the joke
@@marcoispan2702 a guy in the civil war was shot by a musket ball right between the eyes...he survived the gunshot wound and lived all the way to his 80s i think.
I like to believe shortly after joining the van der land gang red actually did do good and was a hard worker and good thief but eventually the grief and trauma of his parents death and all the death that he had to endure over the years finally caught up to him eventually he gave into booze and the drink had a mean hold on him dutch and hosea at first wanted to let him go but even drunk red was hilarious and kept the gangs spirit up so they confronted him and said “listen red if you continue to drink like this then you have to switch roles in the gang we don’t want you leaving camp and we don’t want you to give out your identity go by “uncle” from now on just uncle and nothing else you do that and we won’t cut you loose” red agreed and became uncle things get mixed up in time and uncle gets remembered as a lazy drunk who never amounted to nothing the closest uncle was to becoming red Harlow again was when Micah threatened to kill him in chapter six and uncle threatened “just you try it” but the real uncle came out for one last time for 1911 to help save johns family”
Whether it was intentional or not, youve made this my head cannon for uncle now.
False. He is Red lumbago
Also known as Red Back 😂
Red lumbago 😂😂😂
Or also known as the red dead in 1911
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
The most unrealistic art of this is that you were able to stay in rdo for longer than a minute without disconnecting
i keep wondering why i don’t play rdr2 online anymore and then i realized it’s because it disconnects. also cuz it sucks cuz of all the losers complaining.
@@ariesradke6193 I always disconnect from rdr2 but never in gta
Actually I rarely been disconnect while playing rdo tho, it's more because of Internet quality connection the most part or your support (like if it's on pc, ps4 or xbox) I think
Quent5000 I have a Ethernet cord and my game never disconnects anymore
@@hifly013 You see, Ethernet cord is more stable than wifi
Very compelling presentation. All circumstantial, but it fits very well. I always loved Red Dead Revolver, and the Red character.. Its nice to think that we could have seen what happened to him all along.
I imagine Rockstar is currently making a new Red Dead game right now. How interesting would it be if it were titled _"Red Dead Revolver 2"_
I'm 100% convinced. Great vid. Really had me into it the whole time. Keep it up 💯💯
No doubt about it. Red Harlow was the exaggerated stories told about Uncle's youth.
Red Harlow had hypertrophic scars on his face. Those heal and disappear over time. It's keloid scars that never go away, since they grow over time and act similar to cancer. I've had some gnarly scars, and never got a keloid scar. A fencepost cut me to the ribs as a kid, and that scar is all but gone. A few years before that, a horse ran me under a tree (clotheslined me with a bough and knocked me out of the saddle). That tree left a massive scar wrapped around my forearm, but it's nearly invisible now. It took 12-15 years for those big-ass scars to fade away.
At Uncle's age, any scars from his youth will look like extra wrinkles. Except for burn scars, which can cause contracture scars, but those usually fade. Especially on the palm and fingers, where new skin grows more rapidly than most areas.
We seem to have a know it all city slicker boahs
You got a nice face, mister
Lmao, ok, where you got your information where Red Harlow had hypertrophic scars instead of keloid scar.
Why Rockstar would hide such information from us?
@@carala2245 Learned a lot about scars while I was accruing my share. Easy to distinguish scar types and sub-types by appearance. Look up some photos for visual aid.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar
@@axeadude2846 Is that your normal reaction to info that's easily researched? "Just no?"
The end explains why uncle is so lazy he's burnt out after hunting revenge for so long then being on the run
Plus the LUMBAGO
I was About to say that. Yes but also The Lumbago like i said.
After a long fight like the one Red went through, nothing sounds better than putting the gun down and live in peace.
The fact that uncle even knows about people used to talk about him in his younger days makes this hella believable because rd revolver was told by a sheriff and not the main character
What, do people not talk about any other gunslinger? There's an entire side mission about telling the story of a gunslinger who isn't red Harlow
I like how there's only one grave at Reds House, implying that he buried his mother somewhere else, or he just didn't feel like digging a second hole so he just stuffed them both into the one he already dug for his father💀
It's actually kinda wholesome, in a way
aruther Morgan always said revenge is a fools errand. Well red got his revenge, and he's the gangs drunken fool.
nah red isn't uncle
He probably is this is some undeniable proof
Who tf is Aruther???
@@francoislamar4786 From rdr2
@@nolzey3488 i think @BATMAN knows 😂 he's just laughing at the misspelling of Arthur's name.
I think this is absolutely correct. I'll have to be nicer to him now, and stop asking him if he's gonna pass out in his own shit again.
B) Antagonize
You antagonize uncle. What are a monster or something?
@@collincaperton6718 If you didn't antagonize every person in the gang at least once then ask yourself, did you really play RDR2 lol? That's a rhetorical question, btw.
@@tigtrager6923 I antagonize everyone but uncle and Jack
@@collincaperton6718 I didn't antagonize Jack ever on any of my playthrough's. My first playthrough I was nice while going for high honor. In the second one every adult in the gang was fair game. Some real interesting dialogue if you ever do.
This is insane. I just started learning about the first game in the series and about Red. Cool to think uncle might be the guy.
I think the antiquated and ancient game engine as well as it not being officially cannon adds to the feel that you're playing the events of a legend.
Its all still based on the truth, but its fuzzy, old, forgotten.
And if we just connect all three together ourselves these games start at that raid on red's homestead, setting him on a path to revenge and end with jack 2 generations later killing Ross getting revenge for John. Then theres also the 2nd main narrative theme of the west being tamed. Wile RD: Revolver starts as a product of the unruly west RDR1 starts and end with the west being tamed and Jack killing the man who tamed it.
So fucking beautiful.
Maybe that’s why he’s always drinking, because of his past, I do believe in the theory.
That maybe be right
Nah, the drinking is due to his lumbago
Hey There yeah the legendary cure
Except he doesn't have the scorpion scar burned into his gun hand.
@PurplePrideFTW I think when he got old he must have used something to cover his face
It would make sense after killing so much he'd rather be an underestimated drunk joke than get caught up in bloodshed. I mean it would explain why he could hold of the military as long as he did in the first one.
Imagine you and your friends dying to an old man with half of the US Army only for you all to find out he killed your grandad and his dad aswell 😂
It makes sense. Keeps the law off of him and a would be bandit that wants to fight him.
He did what the other members of the gang couldn't.
This is canon in my head.
This is the best video in contribution to the theory. I do think rockstar started to feed into it with the writing of rdr2 but I do think if it’s ever confirmed it will have been a ret conned idea rather than a fully planned from the beginning kinda deal. Uncle is a sawed off stump of a man and Red’s design is lankier than any normal character, which I’d chalk up to scaling in ps2 era but considering he’s playable in online of rdr1, I’d say his model is objectively tall and lanky. Too much so to make him shrink that much with age.
I’d love a story DLC featuring Uncle where we spend the whole game drinking, thinking, and fighting lumbago. ✌️
I’d love a story DLC at all
And fight talking horses in canada
oh yes, but one could only dream of such a perfect addon
@@leesania7085 pft. That was offensive lol
The thinking part would make a lengthy segment. Easily a 12 hour storyline.
I think harlow at the end of red ded revolver said "it was never about the money" probs why uncle doesn't work lmao
What stupid way to think of it lol
@@igotthesauce1870 lmao
Maybe that's why he tried to make Arthur do his stagecoach heist
It's about sending a message
@@Chief_-yb3fx vengeance toward the man who double crossed his father and had him killed*
I refuse to believe someone so enigmatic, so cunning, so deadly, and such a thought-out character is Red Harlow. Uncle is a gentleman, and to you, I say good day, sir!
I've been on the rdr trail since red dead revolver and I like the way u think, it looks and sounds legit especially how rockstar does things, good job.
1:43 Red's parents were killed by a halo sniper rifle
360 no scoped
Tony Ford not the mustang and Sally’s 😂😂😂🤣
Colonel Darien didn't kill red’s parents with a rifle. Instead, he killed them with his revolver.
Holy shit lol how have I never heard that before
@@davidlittlejohn1093 oh no really? ._.
That’s why he’s always so monotone and passive aggressive, because he knows he’s already superior
Epsa4456 he could wipe out the whole van der linde gang... but u know... lumbago
He's called the one shot kid because he has P.E.
No he's s coward and a drunk. He doesn't have a scar on his face and Red does. He's not Red.
@@MrBlack252 uncle has a giant beard
And when john has his beard on level 5 you can't see his scars (sorry about my english)
Uncle surviving those cannibals in the epilogue of rdr2 is so astonishing because he's 50 years old!
Dude, beautiful. Fucking spot on and your detailing pace was great. Really enjoyed this!
It would be funny if after Uncle got shot and was about to die, to just casually reveal it.
"Well... I guess this is where the legendary Red Harlow meets his end. I wouldn't have it any other way..."
Yes, very "funny"
that's low tier story telling, Rockstar does no low tier story telling
@@ArthurMorganus if you think thats low-tier then you have garbage taste
@@boredoflife8703 let me guess you think CW shows are good
@@ArthurMorganus you sound like you are a cookiecutter
4:45 uncle is wearing a glove on only his right hand, the same hand he Burnt picking up that gun
Omg
Nice catch
Yeah I saw it to just thought he was to lazy to take the other one off 😂
Uncle could be Red Harlow, and R* will not tell u the secret, so when anybody who's telling u that R* said that no characters from 2D universe is in 3D one, is just next in line. They mentioned it on a purpose, like when in GTA V you have an album of this guy from GTA SA. R* wants to push ur curiosity, and only show the real secrets for the most curious. Most of people will play it as a Uncle is some old fellow who loves a whisky, but u can play it and see him as a guy who had a tough history, and just wants to forget it amd emjoy the live he lives right now.
Well he’s a farm hand. Gloves are pretty important. Never worked on a ranch or farm I’m guessing ?
Honestly that’s a pretty good theory.
Never played Red Dead Revolver, but I kept hearing people talk about Uncle and other things being connected.
I think I read something from the Red Dead creators saying the games were connected but in different universes or something like that.
3:55 Unlec said "Fall of Rome" and there is an extra stage called Coliseum on PS3 remastered version of Revolver which looks like Rome. More nod that Uncle is Harlow.
The ranch in New Austin is simply too well done and it sells this theory to me. Also, the red piece of cloth might look like just a random color that Rockstar picked, but I don't think so, since their attention to detail and ability to slip little references to other games is simply amazing.
What a character... From a little boy that saw his parents get murdered in front of him to a old man with lumbago...
EDIT: Here I am 1 year later to say I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT SERIOUS. Damn...
I mean it makes sense, he avenged his parents, joined a gang and did good in his own eyes, got old, then simply decided he’s too old to care what anybody thinks of him.
Though he’d have known the gang wouldn’t have outed him to the officials had he revealed his true identity, to me it follows that he was content to let sleeping dogs lie; happy to not open that can of worms to the gang and deal with the fallout of being the local celebrity.
To me he seems perfectly content to kick back, drink and spend the rest of his life happily doing nothing. He doesn’t owe anybody anything after his decades of hard work, I think he deserves to finally take a backseat and do fuckin nothing, and so does he.
Lay off the man he’s had a difficult life, don’t reward him by antagonizing him, just greet the guy instead. I swear once you start talking to him you realize he’s not a bad guy, just tired
@@MattNeufy And besides, it's been already confirmed that Red Harlow existed but the events of Red Revolver were exaggerated and thus why people don't believe that he doesn't exist, even though he was.
But didn‘t Rockstar themselves say at one point that Revolver isn‘t part of the Redemption universe and canon? All these clues do make a lot of sense, though
@@heartwork7977 They said that the way Red Harlow's story was told in Revolver wasn't canon but he indeed existed
@@heartwork7977 developer say a lot.... like Rockstedy said "The Arkham Knight is a completely new charactere...." ehm.. no.....
everybody who know the Batman comics knew the identity of the dude even before the game came out
I love this theory, I dont even care if its not official. It makes a lot sense and makes for a good story for a character, so its canon in my book.
Welp.
_your book is wrong and full of holes that are easily dismissed with solid proof._
@Logan Berry mmmm. No. I will die on this hill of petty.
@@chipmunkdoesvr8629 must be REALLY fun at parties then.
@@Davidofthelost if I liked parties, I might be.
@@chipmunkdoesvr8629 I mean atleast youre honest about being a tad bit petty. I like uncle, and i like this 'theory', so it'll be canon in my book too, even if it isnt. It would have been very good storytelling if uncle was Harlow, really.
Thanks man you did a really good job, very enjoyable!
“Hold your excuses until you figure out which one to use” rockstar dialogue always has me chuckling
Maybe uncle knew red harlow but became drunk over time he doesnt remember if red was real or not
Maybe, if Revolver is 100% canon... the years might not add up because uncle is recalling the stories of his past while drunk to jack marston. Jack later writing the book red dead redemption about his father John Marston. So its possible uncle is saying the wrong years and outcomes of the events if that is the case.
@@HOUNDxROYALZ i wonder if Jack ever put two and two together and realized that uncle could totally be red harlow. Jack has read stories about gunslingers and stuff so it wouldn't suprise me if he knew plus in rdr1 he has heard of red through a stranger at a campfire
@@HOUNDxROYALZ
Revolver is probably canon. Its referenced by NPCs in both Redemption games as if they're real events.
Uncle: "i was known as the one-shot kid"
Arthur: "...ok, im not gonna ask why"
😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
OHHHHHHHHH I GET IT NOW 😭😭😭
I don't get it😭 help please
@@rvbydolls one pump chump is a sex joke about people who only last "one stroke" in bed
@@mannymaxo I thought it was cuz apparently he was Red Harlow and he always won duels
xEliteHalox Yes, but Arthur was making a joke.
Cool theory and it seems to me like one of these theories that might have not actually been real at first, but then the devs were like 'oh, sure, let's do that'. Either way, I love that RDRevolver is still somewhat relevant due to it. Red Harlow is the Clint Eastwood of gaming.
Personally, my head canon is that he rode off to the sunset much like Lucky Luke at the end of every comic, and went north to embrace his native half, eventually joining a tribe in which he found peace and formed a family. But him participating in the Redemption saga is probably cooler, even at the cost of him being a drunkard and meeting a tragic end.
Now I need to know what happened with Jack Swift and Buffalo Soldier tho.
I thought swift died in the attack on the Governor?
@@jefferycrouse4652 ah, true, I think he did. Then his backstory :P
All the great characters need a nerf, Arthur had TB, John had number disvantage and Red Harlow had lumbago.
Maybe the reason Uncle is a massive liar is because he doesn’t like to talk about what he did before the gang, AKA, Red Harlow’s story.
Who would believe him at this point?
GunslingerXXI But unlike Calloway, Uncle tried to keep his legend a secret as much as he can. He only really mentions it in the beginning of Chapter 2.
Can we just talk about how jack IS LITERALLY RED HARLOWS STORY RETOLD his father John was killed by the military so was uncle later Abigail dies and if you don’t kill the fat guy as John during his final moments he has the skills of a true gunslinger and as age of outlaws was coming to an end he’d probably become a bounty hunter cleaned up the rest of dutchs kind the outlaws the bandits the new armies of mobsters and gangsters to come in the roaring twenties
Jack actually reads a bit of Red Harlow's story to John aswell in a cutscene in RDR1. I think R* did that on purpose as a way of passing the torch to Jack.
@@HOUNDxROYALZ I agree Since John was basically red Harlow throughout 1911 I have a feeling that if uncle wasn’t red Harlow he kind of was when he says born in forty nine I don’t think he means literally he means the birth of his gunslinging days then 1870 rolls around red Harlow became a bounty hunter the game ends 1880 then Arthur he dies then John the finally his son jack the spirit of the west roamin from slinger to slinger sorta speak
You bring flashbacks from 2004 in playing this video of the first one.
I swear Red Dead Revolver looks and sounds like a Xavier: renegade angel episode
bro I was thinking the same thing,I thought I was one of the select few that knew renegade angel
LEGIT THO. The scene where they shot the dog felt like it was ripped straight from an episode of XRA. Reminded me of the three guys Xavier encounters in the pilot episode.
More like God Hand tbh
My name is xavier
That’s most games in the early 2000s
The fact othag he carries a red cloth and that his one hand has “burns” (the other hand is clean) seals the deal for me. His scars probably healed overtime. When you look at his history, it makes total sense.
Until you look it up on google and see that rockstar confirmed red dead revolver and red dead redemption take place in 2 different universes so it's kinda been debunked that uncle isnt red harlow
@@dylh2967 I thought it was the same universe. Red Harlow is mentioned once in rdr2 by a NPC, it would be so cool if uncle really were him
@@sogeking9611 honestly I did too for the longest time but rockstar themselves have actually spoke out saying the theory is false, red harlow is mentioned in rdr1 aswell so it suprised me to know it wasnt true
@@sogeking9611
Even if it was in the same universe, the timeline and events, skin color, facial features, personality, and everything doesn’t add up. It’s false
@@RBG_-pn6dn That's so sad, it would be so cool if Uncle really was Red Harlow, it would make the game even more awesome.
I think it would be cool if one of the famous gunslinger missions in rdr2 had you go to find red Harlow and the card led you right back to camp where Arthur would find out it’s uncle
Only problem is Uncle is 61 during RDR2. The timelines and age differences between Uncle and Red Harlow don’t match
It does make sense tho.
I mean, yes. Uncle has no back stories and he seem to talk all kinds of crap that doesn't tally but then again if you think about it, it does. He can ranch, he can build and he damn well can shoot for the life out of it much like any of Dutch's own shooting men. Look at RDR2. The tip he gave about the robbery of the bank coach. The tip was wack but when it went wild, Uncle did his fair share of shooting and in fact, everyone got out unscathed. In RDR1, the same thing happened. The ranch was overran by US Cavalry forces and Uncle held his own, repelling wave after wave till he himself was shot. Even in both RDR1 and 2, he helped in ranching horses, cows and in 2, even helped Marston in building Beecher's Hope when he ain't lifting a finger.
That speaks volume in what kind of man Uncle used to be. He might have left the life but still, it lingers with him or at least the skills he honed before he got into Dutch's posse. Uncle's incessant drinking might be a way for him to cover up his past misdeeds and to drown himself away from the misery and PTSD he suffered all those years back. I mean, watching your parents die infront of your eyes and going on a crazy killing spree along the way just harms your mentality in the long run and during those times, psychology isn't treatable and drinking became a huge part of the "cure" for such problems and Uncle might be using that as a mechanism. However, the more he drank, the more laidback he became and because Red became a criminal in the end of Revolver, it makes absolute sense on why Uncle would come into contact with Dutch as Dutch's visionary at that point of time wasn't that bad and at least he did what he said he was going to do which was a good cause and Uncle believed him.
Plus, to boot, Uncle does speak in the same form like Red. You can change everything with a beard or outlook but how a person speak sticks with him, forever.
Get a job
Johnny Pickup your the best person in this comment section I don’t care
@@silkroad1201 ok i'ma be honest he does need a job but try to take a less aggressive approach of saying that
@@beeko_bandit2942 I didn't get his comment "get a job". I mean gave a good idea of uncle being red harlow
@@brunopereiraikercasillas6265 he saying he shouldn't spend that long to type that out and yes be did give a good idea
except, red harlow has similar scars on his face as john marston have and uncle sports non of them.
Uncle has a massive beard that could block the scars...also scars don't last forever, i burnt my right hand as a kid, very badly, it healed, only my middle and ring finger are scared now.
@Mega Omega it didn't even come to my mind when i said it lol. But yeah i guess im Red Harlow now.
@Finn Spooner if i live to my 50s yeah 😂
@Hannibal Hyde a rough life plus heavy drinking and smoking does that to people.
Hair would never grow over scars. I have a deep scar on my stomach and have had it for nearly 20 years. It never went away
Wen we first played rdr1 we all were thinking:uncle is just a lazy bastard in the game but after I saw this video I was shocked great vid
they should make a red dead game where your playing a legendary badass of the wild west following him throughout the years as he ages from young to old only for the ending to reveal youve actually been playing uncle