What is appealing to Sinn fans is that the brand represents the no-nonsense, utilitarian, tool-watch segment that has been lost with most if not all of the major watch makers. Luxury watches gravitate towards becoming valuable jewelry. Sinn gravitates in the opposite direction.
great description I am saving for a sinn to be my "everyday" watch because it seems so durable holds decent value and it doesn't cost a huge amount of money. You can wear it in public places without the brand being super recognizable or a target of theft which is actually a worry with a rolex in many areas. Also I personally like the design colors/choices and the blocky square hands that line up nice with the dial hour markers. I like that it's a German watch and it looks like it with that type of design.
For 25 years, I’ve had a Sinn in my collection, right alongside my Rolexes, Pateks, JLC, AP, Journe and a host of others. My first was the sapphire crystal 103 chronograph, I now have a 356 Flieger sapphire on strap. I gave one on a bracelet as the first watch for my son when he graduated high school, and I missed it so much, I bought another for me. I love the classic instrument look to these watches. And they are very robust.
John, first of all I'm a long time watch enthusiast (50+) years and a professional pilot, so I gravitate towards aviation watches. I do own a Sinn watch (104 A St Sa) and love it and the brand as a whole. One important fact that you failed to mention is that Sinn no longer has a brick and mortar AD network and instead has an online watch dealership , specifically "Watchbuys" who deals not only in Sinn but other German watch brands. I feel that because of this, their prices are much lower and highly competitive for the quality they provide. Having dealt with Watchbuys several times, I can state that their customer service is nothing short of outstanding,
Watchbuys is great… bought 2 watches from them over the years (a Fortis when they were still selling them and 2 Sinns) great service, always quick shipping.
We are lucky we have a brick and mortar store here in Australia of all places. I’m also an airline pilot and owned a Sinn 104. Was a great piece however I had several issues with the Sellita movement which was a shame and put me off somewhat
Purchased my Sinn UX Hydro GSG9 from watch buys and yes, they provide outstanding service. The UX is my daily watch. Having Breitling, Omega's and Grand Seikos in my collection, the UX will be the last watch I will ever depart with if I ever had to. Accurate to within 10 seconds a year and built like a tank.
I love my Sinn 104. It was my first 4 figure watch purchase and it still holds up with watches in my collection from Oris or Tudor which I bought since then.
I would slot Sinn between Oris and Tudor, or even at the Tudor level. The 104 is better finished than an Oris Aquis, and at least for the Aquis with the Sellita movements, Sinn uses a higher grade than Oris
@@indianapwn3s I own an Oris Aquis 41.5mm (Sellita) and a Tudor BB58 and in my personal opinion, Sinn has the higher grade movement but the Aquis has the better case and bracelet in my opinio. I would agree with you, if you would compare the 104 with the Diver 65 models. For me, the BB58 is also clearly above the 104, but I never had any experience with the diver models from Sinn.
I own 2 (857UTC and 104 white dial). Sinn suits my lifestyle, I use them at work for field biology. I think Sinn, Damasko, and Fortis have tool watches on lock!
Simn is more likely same as Damasko , Fortis used to have awesome models at fair price now too expensive for what you can search I’ll never buy a Fortis instead a Tudor …
Asking "are Sinn watches any good?" is like asking "can I take my Seiko Marine Master 300 into a pool?" If you know ... you know. Well made video John. I think it's important to bear in mind, why Helmut Sinn started to make watches: because there were no affordable pilot watches available to him. And Sinn still produces tool watches IMHO. Some went to space, some were issued to special forces. They made tool watches specific for firefighters and first responders. If your Sinn Chronograph felt too big on the wrist I would recommend trying out the Sinn 103 with Plexiglass and closed case back, so the very classic version. Recently picked up a 103 Matte and it feels great on my 6-inch wrist. It feels kind of like a vintage chronograph but with modern components in it.
I am so fond of the look of an aviator instrument and want to wear something like this on my wrist. The Sinn 556 is exactly the object of my desire. I don't need a stopwatch, I haven't needed a diving ring since the 70s. I just need a high quality watch that shows me the time and date even with my poor eyesight. This Pilot's Watch 556 I fits my type like a Rolex with diamonds fits a pimp. Understatement, minimalist dial and easy to see hands. A basic solid and reliable companion for every day.
Sinn 104 is a classic model probably the best well made one watch collection model. 104 has a great bezel movement, uses the top grade Sellita movements (Oris use basic models in most models). You can always read the display quickly . It’s only 11.5mm thick and lug to lugs 47mm. Most people over 6 inch wrist can wear it easily. Letdown by poor clasp on h link bracelet.
Fair comments, but not mentioning that Sinn launched the first Bell&Ross timekeepers is missing here. I am big fan of both brands as they definitively have some common DNA (aviation type watches). They perfectly complement my Rolex, AP and IWC collection, all more in the "professional-tool-watch" vibes.
I enjoy my 556i on the H-bracelet. A great, rugged everyday watch with clean, utilitatarian looks, high legibility and the clearest anti-reflective sapphire crystal I've ever seen. Double side coating makes the crystal disappear. Love that. NOT a big watch ( 39mm). Helmut Sinn was a pilot and many of his original designs look like aircraft instrument dials.
I own a Sinn 303, which is a great watch. It doesn't get as much wrist time as my other watches, but I cannot get myself to sell it because it's such a cool piece. Glad to see the brand growing in recognition in recent years.
I wanted a seriously rugged watch & I'm a watch nerd so I wanted something legit. A friend suggested I look at Sinn. I ended up buying a used U1 tegimented & black. 2 years old, $1,900.00. A lot of watch for the money (literally, in the case of the U1) I felt fine buying used because as you mentioned the movements are workhorses AND it scratched my watch nerd itch. Other watch enthusiasts recognize it. It is BIG. The U50 was available too but, the U1.... something about it :)
I've got a Sinn U50 fully tegemented braclet. Love it, def considering U1 second hand. Got my brother a Smiths Caribbean from Timefactor and that was only £400. If I was on a budget I'd do that.
You forgot certain features in Sinn watches. For instance the use of Viton seals in the case. Lubrication free anchor escapements. Magnetic field protection. Temperature resistance technology. Their pilots watches are built the DIN 8330 standard and their divers meet the DNV GL standards.
Yeah I love my sinn 105. I got this thing because of the tegmented case and of course the UTC (gmt) movement. I am a programmer so for me, my watches need to be able to deal with magnetism. I also do bouldering and I need something that can take a beating. This watch doesn't have a scratch on it, and it's my beater. I also have an overseas and a Tudor ceramic black bay and my sinn is the watch that is most often on my wrist.
I bought my first mechanical watch ever, in my late 50s. It's a Sinn 856i, with a black dial. I liked it because it was so simple and tough, but seemed elegant too. I just hope a somewhat fancy watch (I've only owned cheapo Timex and Casio watches my whole life) isn't too flashy; that's just not my style. But I do like it.
I've had a Sinn for 8 years (756 diapal) , it gets far more attention from those in the know than any other watch and goes completely under the radar with others exactly what I wanted
Love the brand. The 856 UTC is one of my grails. Separately, on the precious metals issue, they just released a dress watch in Argentium, which is such a cool alloy. Even when they do a dress watch, it’s practical and engineered better.
To like Sinn as a watch maker is to have a full understanding of the capability, functionality, performance and legibility for everyday use that their watches offer. I have a U1- T SDR, love it. Helmut Sinn had the right idea and hopefully the people run the company continue the path to deliver exceptional watches that are NOT cookie cutter time pieces.
Nice video. I own one Sinn, a 556i, and will buy a Sinn diver in the near future. I consider myself a simple man and feel Sinn watches fit my personality perfectly.
I have a Sinn EZM for about 10 years now, I’m that time I have bought and sold many watches. I’m diver and I never used my sinn for diving, I use a g-shock or my citizen diver watch. But my sinn is still my daily watch for all those years. I just loved it!
556a, 856 utc, 356 chrono owner here. Sinn using 3rd party movements is a selling point for me, not a negative. The fact its cheap and easy to get serviced just about anywhere, thats a factor in ownership. even if your watch needed an entire new movement, you're out like 250-300 bucks max.
Damnnn that’s the best of the best right there. I want to do the same. Just curious, did you get any S versions of those, the black bracelet and dial ? Those look nice too.
I’m seriously considering the 556i as my next everyday watch - it looks great on almost any strap, and you can always rely on German engineering and machining. (Longtime BMW owner here)
I can tell you if you buy one, you’ll love it. It handles daily wear impeccably, gives you everything you need and nothing you don’t. I’ve got a 556i RS and it’s a more sporty companion to my traditional 356. Between those two, I’m not sure I need anything else. Of course eventually, you know a new one is always around the corner😂
@@BrewReview I ended up going with the Sinn 104 with black dial, H link bracelet and Arabic numerals - loving it so far. Super versatile and more of a tool-watch. But I still may spring for the 556 at some point!
Big fan! I enjoy your videos! Great experience and knowledge. I have two Sinn (Zeen) watches. Love the brand and the feel. Actually lived a short drive from Frankfurt when I was school aged. Keep them coming. Cheers,
Years ago I was in the USAF, right across from the Frankfurt Flughafen. Wasn't into watches and was young. If I known, I would have visited their offices.
All good points, John. It felt a bit like you were searching for negatives because they don’t really bother me. I’ve had two 104s - a regular black dial Sellita and then a limited edition with an ETA movement. People often look down on the Sellita but for me it kept equally good time and was a bit less fussy with regard to crown positions to set. However, the day-date font is easier to read on the ETA. The only downside I can think of regarding the 104 itself is the limited power reserve - but perhaps that only means I need to be more active :) Also the limited dealer network is a minus but the customer service is very good. Bottom line: I wear it most weekdays and totally agree with you that it is great value for the money. Definitely a Sinn fan!
Great video and prescient. Looking hard at Sinn. They have addressed the ‘big’ issue - the U50 line. My sticking pt - the price. While everything you said is true - and I don’t buy watches as investments - the ones I’m looking for just seem to be about $500-750 too high. Not sure negotiating (for a new one) is feasible.
Damasko used to be a case manufacturer for Sinn before they went out on their own. Personally I'd take a Damasko over a Sinn, partly because I like the style more, partly because I like that the owner's last name is Damasko.
And Damasko's pricing has modestly increased over the last few years while Sinn's seems to raise it's prices once a year. Both demonstrate outstanding build quality for what they are though.
I would say your right on. The number one reason I wear a U1 is because I can read the time with just the slightest glance. A very clean dial face with big bold hands. I can hardly tell the time on some watches without reading glasses and a flashlight. Sinn are true tool watches that work.
I’m really just learning about Sinn though I’ve been at least aware of their existence for a while. I’ve heard different people talk about how great they are but I never hear anyone talk about what they’re like to live with long term. How easy/expensive is it to get them serviced in the US?
John, based on your recommendation I went on the Seiko Rowing Blazers wait list and just ordered the multi-color bezel model. I loved the interview you did with Eric Wind on Rowing Blazers collab with Seiko. Thanks for the introduction of these unique pieces.
Hey mate - I'm really taken by the Sinn 3006 that you show briefly in the video (wife says I have to wait a year before I buy it). Do you have a review of this watch? Worried my wrist size might not work with the watch size...
Thanx for the nice informative video John P. Sinn offers good quality watches. I have a 103 and I will definitely add some 3 hander from the brand to my collection. It is a brand for people looking for a tool, or an instrument or a companion. Not really for someone looking for jewelery I would say. Definitely worth the prices. I agree that it is not an investment buy on the other hand they seem to hold most of their value. Try to get a second hand Sinn for a relatively smaller price! Sinn's name is Helmut. And I think they were mostly focusing on flight instrument at the beginnen as Helmut was a pilot and flight instructor. Keep up the good work. Listening with pleasure.
Another important factor is the design sense that runs through basically all the Sinn models, which I and all the fans of course love. It’s not flashy, but it’s stylish and functional. Stealth wealth. The black bezels on the 105 and u50 are killer.
John P: what is your opinion of the Sinn 206 ARKTIS II..? (Art-Nr. 206.012) Common asking price seems about 2,500 USD. Could you do a full review, please?
Many F1 cars, at the pinnacle of automotive engineering, use engines of other manufacturers. Why shouldn't watches be allowed to do the same with using tried-and-tested movements made by companies that dedicate themselves to doing just one thing? So you make a good point. A lot as to do with just marketing. A reliable watch should also be easily serviceable, and it is much easier to service Sellita and ETA movements than an in-house Rolex movement. Either you want to brag or live in a higher echelon of life where "in-house" is equated with better quality , of you want to live a practical one.
Hi John, I understand why Sinn choose to use eta's, but with Germany's history in watch making where is there version of eta movements, it seems strange they have all the know how in making the rest of the watch but not the movement, any thoughts anyone.??
Every 12 to 15 years I get a Sinn directly from Frankfurt (I live in Frankfurt, so I could walk from Nordend to Sossenheim). So a new one at every stage of my life. And I still have them all: in 1986 I bought my first Sinn 140 space watch as a student in Rödelheim - for 820 German marks with a steel bracelet (my mother was still pretty angry and upset about it years later ...). In 2001 I bought a 157 in steel from a work colleague. 2010 a U1. And just now, on February 1, 2024, a 103 St Sa with an argon drying system. It's a well-dosed addiction ...
Awesome video. I got the 104 with the red second hand. I like it but I never seem to wear it it much. Maybe I should just try it for a month or so and see if I warm up it more
I wear my 556i daily on a fine-link for 3 years till now..never let me down in any matter. Highly recommend the quality, toughness and unobtrusive elegance of the finish
i own a 104 and a 903.. the quality exceeds my rolex, tudor and speedmaster.. mayb not in movement but cetainly in finishing and engineering quality! i really wonder why i still have luxury brands,, where i can get so much more from sinn and be understanded and more of a gentlemen because nobody knows the cost.
I do like Sinn watches a lot (for example Sinn 142) But I can buy a vintage Omega Speedmaster Mark II, Mark IV or even 125th for similar amount of money. That’s why I have always hesitated buying a Sinn… Thanks for the video!
I love the Omega Speedmaster Marks . Omega should have kept them in the lineup exactly 💯 like they were. They had a style for everyone from dates to day dates
I’m with you. While I love what Sinn is doing - the prices just don’t quite seemed justified. Other comments touting the ruggedness. That’s impressive from an engineering perspective - but I’m not going to be ramming it into anything so of limited value. May pull the trigger - someday.
I like the quality and value plus the fact that it is a German brand. The mix is great. I hope to find that the size will my fit my 18.5 cm wrist. I‘ll find out with U50 or UX.
My biggest problem is my 556, it is clean and functional. I could wear another watch but the one that has been with me for the past 10 years is truly the 556.
Haha that’s awesome you’re wearing a seiko . I bought my rolex sub stainless steel black face maybe 14 yrs ago . I was a hater for seiko , I’d give my uncle shit about wearing one etc . I was ignorant . About five years ago I was in a watch store in Miami and the seiko turtle caught my eye . And I bought it . Since then its my main watch . It’s so great . I paid 400 for it which isn’t much for the quality of the watch . I have changed the bracelet to a ssteel jubilee that’s worked out incredibly. I still wear my sub . But not as much as my turtle . Seiko makes good stuff . I’m going to buy a samurai eventually because it looks so sharp .
Sinn produces great tool watches which are particularly targeted towards the military and civilian aviator, diver, outdoorsman/Special Forces. They are tough and highly legible. Sinn's two main markets are the US and Japan. I own three, 756, U-1000 and the 104 st. They are one of the best kept secrets of the watch world.
Really well designed watches; very German, and mostly no-nonsense, straightforward looking. I do not own a straight-up Sinn, but I do own a really nice Bell & Ross Space chronometer (circa 1999), which was actually made by Sinn, as most other B&R watches until the 2010’s. You can see the same design ethos of other great German products like Leica cameras, and air-cooled Porsches, etc.
Sinn's movement is not really a debate. Yes Eta/Sellita based, but then again check the cost. What other brand do you find at 2k with that kind of technology Sinn use? Their Ezm 3/3f and 856 models is the best value on the market. They are fair to their customers in terms of pricing.
The interesting thing is, that they try to bring watches technically to a new level. Sinn design is quite good, if you like flight instruments and tool watches. Elegant watches for business are not their preferred style in my eyes. Like the classic EZM 1, 3, 13.1 and the 104 black I on a leather strap. The business Finanzplatz watch is technical interesting but more a model for guys from Frankfurt/ Germany to have a local decent show off. Which that they would get more into design styles as Bauhaus to build more elegant watches e.g. for business and family events ❤
I have two Sinns as part of a large collection. The U1 is iconic and will survive nuclear war (something that may be needed in the very near future). It is large but they now make a smaller version. You did not mention that they produce the "Navitimer". They bought the rights and equipment to make the Tag Heuer Navitimer in 1979 (during Tag's last bankruptcy). They still make it today. I have both the Tag Heuer and Sinn Navitimers in my collection. The Sinn version is arguably as good or better at a much lower price. Yes, it is not an inhouse movement, but the Tag was not either until just a few years ago.
I like tool watches and Sinn hits all of the right notes. Not a single "con" mentioned resonates with me. They are a great value. I wear my watch every day and I don't want the attention to my wrist. Only those in the know would start a conversation about my Sinn.
I have the lesser loved 956. I already had a tag and didn’t want a Rolex or omega because I could throw one into a crowd and hit someone wearing one. I don’t like how people in JPN just buy the popular brand without understanding what makes it a good watch. I just liked the story behind sinn, the easily readable dial even with all the other stuff going on in the face.
100% quality tool watches. One thing I did notice was the comment about how thick Sinn watches are. As I heard that I looked down at my Tudor BB 41, then at the Sinn 104 and 556 in the winder. Compared to the Tudor BB 41, the Sinns are svelte.
I like wearing "spotable" watches, not for luxury but for other enthusiasts. If you want someone off the street to notice your watch as a sign of status, that person is probably going to be a thief or call girl.
Thanks John P. I have admired Sinn from afar, but I am wondering if I missed the boat. I remember when Sinn watches could be had for under $1,000 for their entry level models, and now that is simply not possible. The question is, can you have a luxury tool watch? Because if all you want is a no nonsense watch that can tell the time and be rugged, and still look reasonably presentable, you can find all that for under $500. But it won't be German, or mechanical, and will likely be something like a Citizen.
Almost everything is going well with Sinn. I don't care if they use Eta or Sellita movements, actually my concern on this is: pieces with Sellita movements at a retail starting price over $1500? Come on guys, there are many micro brands that offer this caliber for 15 hundred dollars, with great cases and bracelets, very good specifications and really delicate finishes. Don't get me wrong, the pieces are great, both in design and quality, but it's a bit difficult to justify the those prices with little more than steel quality and specs.
I own a U1 and it's a perfect watch for me. Built like a brick shithouse, accurate, and it looks great if the tool watch look is your jam. I wear it 90% of the time
I had the Sinn 897 or so, was promoted to be rock solid, but the tegimented Surface was not hard enough, used it day by day, had a lot of scratsches on the watch
Perhaps Tudor Black Bay trend is wearing off. Still think BB 41mm are heavy and awkward to comfortably wear. Tudor need a new different model to interest buyers
What is appealing to Sinn fans is that the brand represents the no-nonsense, utilitarian, tool-watch segment that has been lost with most if not all of the major watch makers. Luxury watches gravitate towards becoming valuable jewelry. Sinn gravitates in the opposite direction.
Loving my Sinn U50 fully tegemented bracelet.
Considering I'm sporting a 50$ Casio G-Shock at work, the toolwatch segment has stiff competition.
By placing a utility watch for 4900€ ? Yeah, riiiight!
great description I am saving for a sinn to be my "everyday" watch because it seems so durable holds decent value and it doesn't cost a huge amount of money. You can wear it in public places without the brand being super recognizable or a target of theft which is actually a worry with a rolex in many areas. Also I personally like the design colors/choices and the blocky square hands that line up nice with the dial hour markers. I like that it's a German watch and it looks like it with that type of design.
@@iseeq72 Far from all Sinn watches cost 5k.
For 25 years, I’ve had a Sinn in my collection, right alongside my Rolexes, Pateks, JLC, AP, Journe and a host of others. My first was the sapphire crystal 103 chronograph, I now have a 356 Flieger sapphire on strap. I gave one on a bracelet as the first watch for my son when he graduated high school, and I missed it so much, I bought another for me. I love the classic instrument look to these watches. And they are very robust.
Yeah yeah yeah 😂
Lol!
How much did you pay for each of your Pateks?
Sinn is one of my favorite brands. Last year I bought a 556i and it has rapidly become a regular in my rotation.
John, first of all I'm a long time watch enthusiast (50+) years and a professional pilot, so I gravitate towards aviation watches. I do own a Sinn watch (104 A St Sa) and love it and the brand as a whole. One important fact that you failed to mention is that Sinn no longer has a brick and mortar AD network and instead has an online watch dealership , specifically "Watchbuys" who deals not only in Sinn but other German watch brands. I feel that because of this, their prices are much lower and highly competitive for the quality they provide.
Having dealt with Watchbuys several times, I can state that their customer service is nothing short of outstanding,
Watchbuys is great… bought 2 watches from them over the years (a Fortis when they were still selling them and 2 Sinns) great service, always quick shipping.
We are lucky we have a brick and mortar store here in Australia of all places. I’m also an airline pilot and owned a Sinn 104. Was a great piece however I had several issues with the Sellita movement which was a shame and put me off somewhat
I think they are getting more ADs, we have one in my city Calgary (a Rolex AD to boot).
They do have brick and mortar ADs. Several are in Japan. I bought my 556aRS in Shibuya, Tokyo!
Purchased my Sinn UX Hydro GSG9 from watch buys and yes, they provide outstanding service. The UX is my daily watch. Having Breitling, Omega's and Grand Seikos in my collection, the UX will be the last watch I will ever depart with if I ever had to. Accurate to within 10 seconds a year and built like a tank.
I love my Sinn 104. It was my first 4 figure watch purchase and it still holds up with watches in my collection from Oris or Tudor which I bought since then.
I would slot Sinn between Oris and Tudor, or even at the Tudor level. The 104 is better finished than an Oris Aquis, and at least for the Aquis with the Sellita movements, Sinn uses a higher grade than Oris
@@indianapwn3s I own an Oris Aquis 41.5mm (Sellita) and a Tudor BB58 and in my personal opinion, Sinn has the higher grade movement but the Aquis has the better case and bracelet in my opinio. I would agree with you, if you would compare the 104 with the Diver 65 models. For me, the BB58 is also clearly above the 104, but I never had any experience with the diver models from Sinn.
I own 2 (857UTC and 104 white dial). Sinn suits my lifestyle, I use them at work for field biology. I think Sinn, Damasko, and Fortis have tool watches on lock!
Simn is more likely same as Damasko , Fortis used to have awesome models at fair price now too expensive for what you can search I’ll never buy a Fortis instead a Tudor …
Asking "are Sinn watches any good?" is like asking "can I take my Seiko Marine Master 300 into a pool?"
If you know ... you know. Well made video John. I think it's important to bear in mind, why Helmut Sinn started to make watches: because there were no affordable pilot watches available to him. And Sinn still produces tool watches IMHO. Some went to space, some were issued to special forces.
They made tool watches specific for firefighters and first responders.
If your Sinn Chronograph felt too big on the wrist I would recommend trying out the Sinn 103 with Plexiglass and closed case back, so the very classic version. Recently picked up a 103 Matte and it feels great on my 6-inch wrist. It feels kind of like a vintage chronograph but with modern components in it.
Thank you. The case back option makes sense. I also had the Sinn 103 with green flake dial.
I love my Sinn 556i. No frills, well built time piece. Simple, yet beautiful.
I am so fond of the look of an aviator instrument and want to wear something like this on my wrist.
The Sinn 556 is exactly the object of my desire.
I don't need a stopwatch, I haven't needed a diving ring since the 70s. I just need a high quality watch that shows me the time and date even with my poor eyesight. This Pilot's Watch 556 I fits my type like a Rolex with diamonds fits a pimp.
Understatement, minimalist dial and easy to see hands. A basic solid and reliable companion for every day.
Sinn 104 is a classic model probably the best well made one watch collection model. 104 has a great bezel movement, uses the top grade Sellita movements (Oris use basic models in most models). You can always read the display quickly . It’s only 11.5mm thick and lug to lugs 47mm. Most people over 6 inch wrist can wear it easily. Letdown by poor clasp on h link bracelet.
Fair comments, but not mentioning that Sinn launched the first Bell&Ross timekeepers is missing here. I am big fan of both brands as they definitively have some common DNA (aviation type watches). They perfectly complement my Rolex, AP and IWC collection, all more in the "professional-tool-watch" vibes.
Sinn 556 is perfect for smaller wrists. Great watch to dress up or down. A strap monster too.
It gets most of my wrist time but I got the RS version and the red limits my use some.
I enjoy my 556i on the H-bracelet. A great, rugged everyday watch with clean, utilitatarian looks, high legibility and the clearest anti-reflective sapphire crystal I've ever seen. Double side coating makes the crystal disappear. Love that. NOT a big watch ( 39mm). Helmut Sinn was a pilot and many of his original designs look like aircraft instrument dials.
I own a Sinn 303, which is a great watch. It doesn't get as much wrist time as my other watches, but I cannot get myself to sell it because it's such a cool piece. Glad to see the brand growing in recognition in recent years.
The Sinn 303 is fun!
I wanted a seriously rugged watch & I'm a watch nerd so I wanted something legit. A friend suggested I look at Sinn. I ended up buying a used U1 tegimented & black. 2 years old, $1,900.00. A lot of watch for the money (literally, in the case of the U1) I felt fine buying used because as you mentioned the movements are workhorses AND it scratched my watch nerd itch. Other watch enthusiasts recognize it. It is BIG. The U50 was available too but, the U1.... something about it :)
I've got a Sinn U50 fully tegemented braclet. Love it, def considering U1 second hand. Got my brother a Smiths Caribbean from Timefactor and that was only £400. If I was on a budget I'd do that.
You forgot certain features in Sinn watches. For instance the use of Viton seals in the case. Lubrication free anchor escapements. Magnetic field protection. Temperature resistance technology. Their pilots watches are built the DIN 8330 standard and their divers meet the DNV GL standards.
Tegemented braclet on my U50 too
A Sinn 156 has been my daily since around 1998 and to me represents where Heuer "should be" vs. what has happened under TAG
What do you feel happened to Tag?
Genuine question as I’m considering one.
Yeah I love my sinn 105. I got this thing because of the tegmented case and of course the UTC (gmt) movement. I am a programmer so for me, my watches need to be able to deal with magnetism. I also do bouldering and I need something that can take a beating. This watch doesn't have a scratch on it, and it's my beater.
I also have an overseas and a Tudor ceramic black bay and my sinn is the watch that is most often on my wrist.
I'm pretty sure only the bezel is tegimented on the 105
I bought my first mechanical watch ever, in my late 50s. It's a Sinn 856i, with a black dial. I liked it because it was so simple and tough, but seemed elegant too. I just hope a somewhat fancy watch (I've only owned cheapo Timex and Casio watches my whole life) isn't too flashy; that's just not my style. But I do like it.
I have the Sinn 556ib and, although it’s a no nonsense tool watch, it’s also drop dead gorgeous. The best of both worlds.
Thank you very much, John. Sinn is a brand I admire from afar. Would buy if I could afford. Your video is comprehensive as far as I'm concerned.
I've had a Sinn for 8 years (756 diapal) , it gets far more attention from those in the know than any other watch and goes completely under the radar with others exactly what I wanted
I love my 3006.
I wear it every day.
When I bought it there was only five in my country. 🇯🇵
Love the brand. The 856 UTC is one of my grails. Separately, on the precious metals issue, they just released a dress watch in Argentium, which is such a cool alloy. Even when they do a dress watch, it’s practical and engineered better.
To like Sinn as a watch maker is to have a full understanding of the capability, functionality, performance and legibility for everyday use that their watches offer. I have a U1- T SDR, love it. Helmut Sinn had the right idea and hopefully the people run the company continue the path to deliver exceptional watches that are NOT cookie cutter time pieces.
I’ve been eyeing a Sinn 556 lately, & liking the company more & more. I like their no-frills, very utilitarian approach!
I got the mother of pearl version and later went on to a Sinn U50
Nice video. I own one Sinn, a 556i, and will buy a Sinn diver in the near future. I consider myself a simple man and feel Sinn watches fit my personality perfectly.
I have a Sinn EZM for about 10 years now, I’m that time I have bought and sold many watches. I’m diver and I never used my sinn for diving, I use a g-shock or my citizen diver watch. But my sinn is still my daily watch for all those years. I just loved it!
Love the 104 white dial red second hand its one of my favs, no watch comes close for in the 2000 to 3000 grand price. i own 2
556a, 856 utc, 356 chrono owner here. Sinn using 3rd party movements is a selling point for me, not a negative. The fact its cheap and easy to get serviced just about anywhere, thats a factor in ownership. even if your watch needed an entire new movement, you're out like 250-300 bucks max.
Damnnn that’s the best of the best right there. I want to do the same. Just curious, did you get any S versions of those, the black bracelet and dial ? Those look nice too.
I’m seriously considering the 556i as my next everyday watch - it looks great on almost any strap, and you can always rely on German engineering and machining. (Longtime BMW owner here)
I can tell you if you buy one, you’ll love it. It handles daily wear impeccably, gives you everything you need and nothing you don’t. I’ve got a 556i RS and it’s a more sporty companion to my traditional 356. Between those two, I’m not sure I need anything else. Of course eventually, you know a new one is always around the corner😂
@@BrewReview I ended up going with the Sinn 104 with black dial, H link bracelet and Arabic numerals - loving it so far. Super versatile and more of a tool-watch. But I still may spring for the 556 at some point!
Big fan! I enjoy your videos! Great experience and knowledge. I have two Sinn (Zeen) watches. Love the brand and the feel. Actually lived a short drive from Frankfurt when I was school aged. Keep them coming. Cheers,
Thank you !
Years ago I was in the USAF, right across from the Frankfurt Flughafen. Wasn't into watches and was young. If I known, I would have visited their offices.
All good points, John. It felt a bit like you were searching for negatives because they don’t really bother me. I’ve had two 104s - a regular black dial Sellita and then a limited edition with an ETA movement. People often look down on the Sellita but for me it kept equally good time and was a bit less fussy with regard to crown positions to set. However, the day-date font is easier to read on the ETA.
The only downside I can think of regarding the 104 itself is the limited power reserve - but perhaps that only means I need to be more active :) Also the limited dealer network is a minus but the customer service is very good. Bottom line: I wear it most weekdays and totally agree with you that it is great value for the money. Definitely a Sinn fan!
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Great video and prescient. Looking hard at Sinn. They have addressed the ‘big’ issue - the U50 line. My sticking pt - the price. While everything you said is true - and I don’t buy watches as investments - the ones I’m looking for just seem to be about $500-750 too high. Not sure negotiating (for a new one) is feasible.
Damasko used to be a case manufacturer for Sinn before they went out on their own. Personally I'd take a Damasko over a Sinn, partly because I like the style more, partly because I like that the owner's last name is Damasko.
And Damasko's pricing has modestly increased over the last few years while Sinn's seems to raise it's prices once a year. Both demonstrate outstanding build quality for what they are though.
Damasko sounds like a Ukrainian tractor manufacturer. Their design kind of trues too hard - I’ll take Sinn.
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I picked up that blue 556i blue dial on DelRay last month and love it. I totally get why Sinn has shot up in popularity recently.
I own a SINN 104 and would never sell it. Picked it up used but like new for $1100 Canadian back in January 2022.
Why haven't you reviewed it?
What do you think about the movement Concepto used by Sinn?
I would say your right on. The number one reason I wear a U1 is because I can read the time with just the slightest glance. A very clean dial face with big bold hands. I can hardly tell the time on some watches without reading glasses and a flashlight. Sinn are true tool watches that work.
Same but U50. The look of the hands and legibility haunted me until I bought it 😂
I’m really just learning about Sinn though I’ve been at least aware of their existence for a while. I’ve heard different people talk about how great they are but I never hear anyone talk about what they’re like to live with long term. How easy/expensive is it to get them serviced in the US?
John, based on your recommendation I went on the Seiko Rowing Blazers wait list and just ordered the multi-color bezel model. I loved the interview you did with Eric Wind on Rowing Blazers collab with Seiko. Thanks for the introduction of these unique pieces.
Hey mate - I'm really taken by the Sinn 3006 that you show briefly in the video (wife says I have to wait a year before I buy it). Do you have a review of this watch? Worried my wrist size might not work with the watch size...
Love my Sinns, especially the Damazener, a limited run of a 100 and each one unique and tough as nails, never ever scratched or marked
Muhle Glashutte are well worth a look if this style/aspect appeals...
I would love it if Sinn adds micro adjustment clasps
Thanx for the nice informative video John P. Sinn offers good quality watches. I have a 103 and I will definitely add some 3 hander from the brand to my collection. It is a brand for people looking for a tool, or an instrument or a companion. Not really for someone looking for jewelery I would say. Definitely worth the prices. I agree that it is not an investment buy on the other hand they seem to hold most of their value. Try to get a second hand Sinn for a relatively smaller price! Sinn's name is Helmut. And I think they were mostly focusing on flight instrument at the beginnen as Helmut was a pilot and flight instructor. Keep up the good work. Listening with pleasure.
Another important factor is the design sense that runs through basically all the Sinn models, which I and all the fans of course love. It’s not flashy, but it’s stylish and functional. Stealth wealth. The black bezels on the 105 and u50 are killer.
John P: what is your opinion of the Sinn 206 ARKTIS II..? (Art-Nr. 206.012) Common asking price seems about 2,500 USD. Could you do a full review, please?
I have a tegimented 856, but the white gold 6200 Meisterbund is pretty interesting for a Sinn in precious metal.
I love my U50. Perfect size and are extremely durable
Me too. I got the fully tegemented bracelet and the rubber too. Prefer the rubber but the Wife likes the metal.
@@benohanlonsame here, absolute best “mans” watch!
Congrats on 30k subs - remember when you first started and had a few hundred subs. Keep doing great things. 👍⌚📈
Thank you so much!
Many F1 cars, at the pinnacle of automotive engineering, use engines of other manufacturers. Why shouldn't watches be allowed to do the same with using tried-and-tested movements made by companies that dedicate themselves to doing just one thing? So you make a good point. A lot as to do with just marketing. A reliable watch should also be easily serviceable, and it is much easier to service Sellita and ETA movements than an in-house Rolex movement. Either you want to brag or live in a higher echelon of life where "in-house" is equated with better quality , of you want to live a practical one.
SUG is also known for making cases for Lange, so they play in the high horology space also
They do cases for lange? 🤣
@@Ossory88Among other makers, yes. They did (not sure that they still do.)
At this point, Sinn own at least 75% of SUG.
@@Judah.Rosenthal Jew must be kidding
I have a Sinn U50 tegimented as my daily beater watch. This thing is a tank!!
Currently looking another Sinn.
Ive had my Sinn 103 St for many years. Elegant, claasic and still keeping great time
Hi John, I understand why Sinn choose to use eta's, but with Germany's history in watch making where is there version of eta movements, it seems strange they have all the know how in making the rest of the watch but not the movement, any thoughts anyone.??
Every 12 to 15 years I get a Sinn directly from Frankfurt (I live in Frankfurt, so I could walk from Nordend to Sossenheim). So a new one at every stage of my life. And I still have them all: in 1986 I bought my first Sinn 140 space watch as a student in Rödelheim - for 820 German marks with a steel bracelet (my mother was still pretty angry and upset about it years later ...). In 2001 I bought a 157 in steel from a work colleague. 2010 a U1. And just now, on February 1, 2024, a 103 St Sa with an argon drying system. It's a well-dosed addiction ...
My other hobby is collecting Irish single malts. If you want to compare: Sinn is like Bushmills or Connemara ...
I'm Irish and love my Sinn U2 and of course my whiskeys too
Sold my tudor pelagos, got a 556i and some extra money to take the fam for nice vacation. Win-win
I just got the Sinn 103 ti ar after having admired Sinn watches for close to 8 years now, this is a special brand.
Awesome video. I got the 104 with the red second hand. I like it but I never seem to wear it it much. Maybe I should just try it for a month or so and see if I warm up it more
Sinn has some great everyday watches - 856UTC, 556i and 104
i own 356 flieger for 8 years and U1 for couple of months. love em.
John, I think your reviews would be more interesting if you had more visuals.
I wear my 556i daily on a fine-link for 3 years till now..never let me down in any matter. Highly recommend the quality, toughness and unobtrusive elegance of the finish
Yes. Saved you 15:33 minutes.
i own a 104 and a 903.. the quality exceeds my rolex, tudor and speedmaster.. mayb not in movement but cetainly in finishing and engineering quality! i really wonder why i still have luxury brands,, where i can get so much more from sinn and be understanded and more of a gentlemen because nobody knows the cost.
I do like Sinn watches a lot (for example Sinn 142) But I can buy a vintage Omega Speedmaster Mark II, Mark IV or even 125th for similar amount of money. That’s why I have always hesitated buying a Sinn…
Thanks for the video!
I love the Omega Speedmaster Marks . Omega should have kept them in the lineup exactly 💯 like they were. They had a style for everyone from dates to day dates
I’m with you. While I love what Sinn is doing - the prices just don’t quite seemed justified. Other comments touting the ruggedness. That’s impressive from an engineering perspective - but I’m not going to be ramming it into anything so of limited value.
May pull the trigger - someday.
I love my Sinn 556 and my 103 Klassik 12 so much🤩🥰
I like the quality and value plus the fact that it is a German brand. The mix is great. I hope to find that the size will my fit my 18.5 cm wrist. I‘ll find out with U50 or UX.
My biggest problem is my 556, it is clean and functional. I could wear another watch but the one that has been with me for the past 10 years is truly the 556.
Haha that’s awesome you’re wearing a seiko . I bought my rolex sub stainless steel black face maybe 14 yrs ago . I was a hater for seiko , I’d give my uncle shit about wearing one etc . I was ignorant . About five years ago I was in a watch store in Miami and the seiko turtle caught my eye . And I bought it . Since then its my main watch . It’s so great . I paid 400 for it which isn’t much for the quality of the watch . I have changed the bracelet to a ssteel jubilee that’s worked out incredibly. I still wear my sub . But not as much as my turtle . Seiko makes good stuff . I’m going to buy a samurai eventually because it looks so sharp .
You make many good points. To me SINN is the polar opposite of Invicta.
Sinn produces great tool watches which are particularly targeted towards the military and civilian aviator, diver, outdoorsman/Special Forces. They are tough and highly legible. Sinn's two main markets are the US and Japan. I own three, 756, U-1000 and the 104 st. They are one of the best kept secrets of the watch world.
Really well designed watches; very German, and mostly no-nonsense, straightforward looking. I do not own a straight-up Sinn, but I do own a really nice Bell & Ross Space chronometer (circa 1999), which was actually made by Sinn, as most other B&R watches until the 2010’s. You can see the same design ethos of other great German products like Leica cameras, and air-cooled Porsches, etc.
I will say I picked up a 42mm diver from Aragon. Very pleased.
Sinn's movement is not really a debate. Yes Eta/Sellita based, but then again check the cost. What other brand do you find at 2k with that kind of technology Sinn use? Their Ezm 3/3f and 856 models is the best value on the market.
They are fair to their customers in terms of pricing.
The interesting thing is, that they try to bring watches technically to a new level.
Sinn design is quite good, if you like flight instruments and tool watches. Elegant watches for business are not their preferred style in my eyes.
Like the classic EZM 1, 3, 13.1 and the 104 black I on a leather strap.
The business Finanzplatz watch is technical interesting but more a model for guys from Frankfurt/ Germany to have a local decent show off.
Which that they would get more into design styles as Bauhaus to build more elegant watches e.g. for business and family events ❤
Sinn hydro has always been a fav but it creates a bubble inside over time
I have two Sinns as part of a large collection. The U1 is iconic and will survive nuclear war (something that may be needed in the very near future). It is large but they now make a smaller version. You did not mention that they produce the "Navitimer". They bought the rights and equipment to make the Tag Heuer Navitimer in 1979 (during Tag's last bankruptcy). They still make it today. I have both the Tag Heuer and Sinn Navitimers in my collection. The Sinn version is arguably as good or better at a much lower price. Yes, it is not an inhouse movement, but the Tag was not either until just a few years ago.
Breitling navitimer??
I have a Sinn 203 Ti AR , love it
I like Sinn watches since years. John P: Thanks for representation. Stay healthy everybody. Greetings from Germany.
I like tool watches and Sinn hits all of the right notes. Not a single "con" mentioned resonates with me. They are a great value. I wear my watch every day and I don't want the attention to my wrist. Only those in the know would start a conversation about my Sinn.
I have the lesser loved 956. I already had a tag and didn’t want a Rolex or omega because I could throw one into a crowd and hit someone wearing one. I don’t like how people in JPN just buy the popular brand without understanding what makes it a good watch. I just liked the story behind sinn, the easily readable dial even with all the other stuff going on in the face.
100% quality tool watches. One thing I did notice was the comment about how thick Sinn watches are. As I heard that I looked down at my Tudor BB 41, then at the Sinn 104 and 556 in the winder. Compared to the Tudor BB 41, the Sinns are svelte.
I like wearing "spotable" watches, not for luxury but for other enthusiasts. If you want someone off the street to notice your watch as a sign of status, that person is probably going to be a thief or call girl.
Thanks John P. I have admired Sinn from afar, but I am wondering if I missed the boat. I remember when Sinn watches could be had for under $1,000 for their entry level models, and now that is simply not possible.
The question is, can you have a luxury tool watch? Because if all you want is a no nonsense watch that can tell the time and be rugged, and still look reasonably presentable, you can find all that for under $500. But it won't be German, or mechanical, and will likely be something like a Citizen.
Sinn U50 fully tegemented gets no scratches! It's amazing. Slim. Crunchy bezel.
I like Sinn watches, they are working tools. I have used Seiko dive watches, I am now working towards a Sinn, EZM 3
I’m going to by a Sinn and I’ve put down a deposit to get a Dornbluth and Sohn it takes 14 months to be made to your order, thanks 🏴❤️👍
Almost everything is going well with Sinn. I don't care if they use Eta or Sellita movements, actually my concern on this is: pieces with Sellita movements at a retail starting price over $1500? Come on guys, there are many micro brands that offer this caliber for 15 hundred dollars, with great cases and bracelets, very good specifications and really delicate finishes. Don't get me wrong, the pieces are great, both in design and quality, but it's a bit difficult to justify the those prices with little more than steel quality and specs.
Didn’t know John p was on the wiggles part time
Full time. They just let me use the camera gear to make these videos on the side.
I thought sweaters were illegal in florida? John P's air conditioner must be hooked up to a fusion reactor or something.
AC on high!
@@JohnPWatches Now you just need a sweater in Tiffany Blue.
Mr. Fusion!
@@robertschmidt9584 Yes! from 'Back to the Future III' !!!
I have 2 Sinn watches. 100% satisfied. The submarine steel is just amazing. I recommend these watches. Practically they are indestructible
Me too. A MOP 556 and U50.
A Sinn Watch with Spring Drive :)/that would be awesome!!
I like their design style. High contrast, high legibility
New subscriber, it's great to hear you talk about Sinn. Great tool watches built to exacting standards.
I own a U1 and it's a perfect watch for me. Built like a brick shithouse, accurate, and it looks great if the tool watch look is your jam. I wear it 90% of the time
How do get the battery change? Sent it back to factory to top up the oil?
I sold my Sinn 104 because I started to like smaller watches. And I am now planning to buy Sinn 556.
What is your wrist size? Do you find the 104 to feel chunky compared to other watches with click bezels?
I had the Sinn 897 or so, was promoted to be rock solid, but the tegimented Surface was not hard enough, used it day by day, had a lot of scratsches on the watch
Should have bought the U2, with uboat steel? Maybe
Perhaps Tudor Black Bay trend is wearing off. Still think BB 41mm are heavy and awkward to comfortably wear. Tudor need a new different model to interest buyers
Sinn Damascus steel pieces are quite worthy of a mention!