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Great review as always, Pan. I bought this same unit years ago, but I'd recommend using for a final rinse only. The resin gets consumed fairly quickly when using for all steps of a wash and lasted 3, maybe 4 washes before I noticed spots after drying. The replacement resin is somewhat pricey, so using it sparingly as a final rinse only is advised. I live in Florida with notoriously hard water which is a pain, but a home softener system will definitely help prolong the resin as you say.
a water softener won t help to increase the life of the Demineralisation resin. Water softener is just a ion exchanger, so the TDS is the same as the TDS that came in the softner. You just exchange calcium with sodium, that is easier to take off by itself, and don't make a very hard deposit.
@@fishmonger6879 you must have an activated carbon filter before RO (most non industrials units have it usualy) because chlorine will destroy the membranes. So it will increase in a way the RO life, but it is mandatory
I’ve had the CR Spotless DIC 20 unit for about 4-5 years now. Absolutely love it. The resin is very easy to change especially if you buy the replacement cartridges instead of buying the extra bags. A little more expensive but worth not making a mess with the resin. I use with my Karcher K5 power washer and it works just fine. I love the security it provides in not having to deal with water spots. Highly recommend it.
Definitely pick one of these up, night and day difference in washing your vehicle. Apec CWS-300 is the model I use, it comes with a tester, but it isn't built in to the unit like Pan's.
@@PanTheOrganizer can you make a video or perhaps guide me to some video or link that can show me how to connect a pressure washer to this car spotless DIC 20. Thank you Pan.
I bought one three years ago when I bought a 2019 black Ram 1500. I don't wash my vehicles that much so after three years my filters are still good. It's also great for washing the outside of the windows of you house. I am glad with the purchase and recommend as well.
@@RamseyAutoPros the turn off for me was definitely the price point. I didn’t really mind the initial investment of buying the deionizer, but the price of replacing the resin would definitely rack up over time. I only detail my own car, so it didn’t really seem worth the money to invest in this
@@RamseyAutoPros I live in Vegas so in the summer we regularly go over 100 degrees, plus we have extremely hard water. Do you think this'll degrade the deionizer quickly? I like the idea of just using DI water as a finisher though, definitely makes a lot of sense
I’ve been using this system for several years. Now I buy resin in bulk and no longer buy the CR cartridges. You only need it for the final rinse. If you use it for first rinse and washing (foam), you can burn up a set of cartridges in one or two washes, depending on how hard your water feed is. Get their by-pass system.
Where do you get your resin from and how much do you pay? I'm paying around $90 for a 5 gallon bucket from a local guy. Pretty sure he buys by the barrel and repackages. Is the resin you buy identical to the CR resin? The stuff I get is a bit larger in bead size, but seems to perform just the same.
Thanks Pan. Great review. I've had the DIC-20 for about 2 years. Just a note that CR does sell (or did) a bypass system that allows you to switch from DI to regular water. This really saves on the cost of resin. Problem is their bypass system leaks and I reached out to CR, got a replacement and that one similarly leaked. So, my only criticism is that because there is no effective bypass system, the user needs to be prepared for the cost of replacing resin often (I get about 15 washes before my indicator goes from 0 to 1 or more...my water is considered very hard at 185 mg/L...so that seems to reduce the amount of uses I get from a resin change). To me it does not matter because water spots are horrible to get rid of even with a polisher so I consider the cost worth it to save the paint and the headaches.
@@MercedesMechanic I did check. My water is fairly hard (187 ppm) so when I used the DIC for a full wash, I only received about 10 washes. With the price of media pretty high that can be a bit over the top. But, rushing to finish to beat water spots is worse. Obsessed Garage came out with a bypass solution that I'm using now. Once you set it up it has worked well and that has doubled my use before having to change media. I use the DI water for rinses only and it works fine.
Final rinse is the only thing that makes sense with the cost of DI water but I’m going to go a step further and reverse osmosis my water first sometime in the next two weeks once I get all the research done of what I need. The reverse osmosis will get my water TDS down to around 5 because I have one for drinking water currently and 5 is what it’s doing now from 350 TDS all the way down to 5. So I’m getting a second one for car rinse water to then make DI water for final rinse. However for the car, I learned that a 75 GPD membrane in the RO system will not make as much waste water as my current drinking water system does, that one makes 4 gallons of waste water to clean one gallon for drinking. My new system should waste only 1 gallon per one gallon of clean water. I’ll then put the water in a 50 gallon pressure tank and hook a hose to that. As I hose off my car after washing, the water level drops inside the tank which then turns on the supply to the reverse osmosis system hence filling the tank back up. Only caveat to this is the RO system will take all day to produce 50 gallons of spot free water. I’ll only use about 5-10 gallons though but then I won’t use anymore until my next wash or a between wash rinse off. Only thing I still have to find out is how long the DI cartridge on the RO stem will last. The place I’m buying it says it should last at least 250 gallons, then I’ll change it for $30. So based on what it actually does, I may get a CR spotless which should last me a year if not longer using it only as rinse water. If anyone reading this knows something I don’t please let me know as I’m still planning how to set it up.
It takes a while to get there hehe. It can treat up to 300 gallons of water! A viewer of mine has one and told me it took 11 months before he had to change the resin and he washes his car 1 to 2 times per week.
I have been detailing 22 years and picked one of these up 5 yrs ago. I am SO mad at myself for not having found this sooner. I always hated the drying process and know how drying can introduce swirls, etc. This is like magic to me!
Love my CR Spotless...I run a splitter at the inlet of my pressure washer so I can switch between regular and deionized.water...regular for pre-rinse and wash...deionized for final rinse...Makes it last much longer...
Thanks for the awesome video Pan. I noticed that the DIC-10 is listed for $500, $90 more than the larger version, so it wouldn't make any sense to purchase the smaller unit. I really need one of these for the south Florida climate.
I’ve been looking at these for years! Especially detailing in Arizona, where the foam soap dries on the car before you can even wash or rinse 😂 they were so much cheaper years ago, now they have gone way up in price! It’s still worth it out here in the desert though!
I have really really hard water, I bought one of these a couple years ago and it worked for 2 car washes... thats it. Now I have a reverse osmosis 35 gallon water system and it works perfectly. I have used it for the last 2 years.
Same here, it's insane. I'd be replacing resin every week. What system do you have? I reached out to US Watersystems for a quote once, but it still seemed too pricey. I've been using distilled water for years with a ghetto worx battery "pressure washer" does the job, but not sure of it being truly deposit free. It is a $1/gallon so all in all, not a killer.
ZeroWater filter pitchers use the exact same resin based filtering, just on a much smaller scale. You get to know that "fishy" smell very well. It's even worse when you're going to drink it.. 😁 Cool video, thanks Pan! 👍👌✌
Culligan Water installed my DI system years ago but commented not many home owners have them. They are usually for factories making electronic parts. I have three 4’ tanks and a dedicated spigot running outside. I use a pressure washer because it uses less water. I have well water (dirty hard water) and a water softener. The DI system I use for the whole wash, not just rinse. Suds are heavy, but the best part is if you don’t towel dry, you still will not have spots with Di, demineralization water. Amazing but true. I wash my Harley road king, lots of chrome, no spots even when left soaking wet to dry.
Most of it has unfortunately become smoke and mirrors. A proper drying aid, like the ones used in tunnel washes, will cost about $20 for 10 gallons and give you plenty of time to dry your car. If you're detailing as a business then this is, after the initial purchase of $410, $120 per 300 gallons, which is only about 30 vehicles if your mindful of water usage, or $4 per car when you could use 15c worth of drying aid for the same end result. Edit: Even better, I'm seeing comments of 5-20 washes. Absolutely nuts. $6-$24 per wash. You'd be better off going to a mega mart and just buying RO water at .25 a gallon.
Hello Pan. Thanks again for this interesting video. Any solution to purchase this equipment for french people or any other equivalent equipment that you would recommend? Thanks for your help!
I've been using this same model CR Spotless (DIC-20) for about 2 years now. It's does exactly what the manufacturer claims. Just be sure to use a designated rinse hose with the supplied spray nozzle and it works! CR Spotless also has a resin filter exchange and the price is good. They'll send two new filters, two long and sturdy plastic bags, and a pre-paid return label. You can then return them in the same box.
Absolutely love your Channel Pan!!! Shoutout all the way from South Africa. I'm starting up a mobile car wash/detailing service for the guys struggling with the sea breeze inland containing salt/fallout particles, highway debris, etc. . I have a passion for clean detailed cars and trucks. I myself drive a Ford Ranger and the car washes we have here is uneducated. My New truck is about 6months old, and after watching some of your videos, I took a walk around my own truck and started noticing a lot of things that went wrong in the wash bays. I can be a hard-ass for finding things wrong...lol.. It makes me sad as its an expensive part of one's life.... I didn't realize this until I've watched most of your videos!! Keep up the good work!! #supporter for life!!!
What’s up Pan from Mexico 🇲🇽 ! My TDS in my water is 325 PPM and I get a DI system, I had to change the resin every 4 washes and it was very expensive, so I did some research and installed a reverse osmosis system and a 50 liter pressurized tank (16 galons, just for rinse, foam, rinse and rinse the soap, 2 buckets method). With this system I got down to 4 PPM, then hooked it up to my reverse DI system and it went down to 0 PPM. Now I have 6 months without changing the resin (0 PPM) and I already recovered the money from the reverse osmosis system.
I own the same system and love it can't ever go back! The only drawback for me living in the desert is our water quality isn't that great. So the resin. Only lasts me 10 to 14 washes roughly. So its a pricey luxury for me. Still a great product.
Im detailing out of my truck which is a low profile setup. My question is can I just buy the water deionizer system for my house, hook it up to the spigot, and then just run a hose to fill up my water tank? Would that be the best thing for me to do if I want deionized water/cost effective? My tank is only 68 gallons
Hey Pan! Thanks again for these awesome videos! I AM GETTING ONE OF THESE ASAP...I appreciate you and your videos...Your channel is the only detailing channel I watch sir...You DEFINITELY know your stuff my friend!!👍🏾
@@PanTheOrganizer, Well sir, I have a few favorite videos, but 1 of my favorites is your updated garage, & then there's the video when you 1st got that beautiful Porsche, & the video(s) where you explain the detail products you use & the best product for certain jobs... My friend, I could go on & on! Just know Pan I greatly respect you, I actually got some new items thanks to you, So I really appreciate your time to do these videos sir!👍🏾💯🚘🚗
Did you have any issues with the ELEY garden hose you have connected to the CR Spoteless System due to the orifice size being a little larger than the standard 5/8 inch?
Great video Pan. RV Mods sells an attachment for your system, if you haven't bought it already. Filter rods that allow you to pack more resin into each container by removing the need for the inner plastic resin containers. I have a DI system, different brand but same concept, and I would suggest anyone about to purchase a unit like this, get a TDS meter and find out how hard your water is first, because that will help determine the continued cost by replacing expensive resin. For instance, I live in Florida where TDS is easily over 400. It goes through the resin very quickly. I have an irrigation well that is only 200+ TDS in comparison, so I use it and it helps to save the resin for more rinse cycles before replacement. I have seen videos where reverse osmosis setups that fill a tank and use a small pump to push the water out will lower TDS to about 10 before it hits the DI resin and really elongates the DI resin for thousands of gallons of 0 ppm water. I could easily see your already impressive garage adding that to the setup.
I wonder how do you maintain this DI water system? I only wash my car every 2 or 3 weeks in one month, do I need to dry the filter (resin) to prevent some kind of molding?
Enjoyed this video. I am in the process of gathering the parts to do a wall mount solution for my pressure washer. I bought a shelf and Cox reel from Obsessed Garage, but wanted to see what you thought of the CR Spotless before buying. It’s hard to wash my car outside since it is sunny all day and I do not want to wait until the sun goes down. I put a lot of stock in what you have to say. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on TH-cam as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 140 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.
I have the CR Spotless DIC-20 that I have used for years. The pressure washer I use has a output of 1.3GPM which in turns gives me about 3.84 hours of use. That might seem like a lot of time but using it to wash 3-4 vehicles a week at my house hold I find I am replacing the resin filters every 3 months at $119 ($480 for the year) for the two filter exchanges from CR Spotless. It does work great and as advertised.
ok if it 300 gallons of water before you replace the resin beads, does it last longer with the water softener attached to it ? or is it 300 gallons still.
Do you find it necessary to drain the tanks? How long does it sit idle between uses? Lastly, how do you know it prolongs the life of the resin?. Thanks.
@@cheferman65 this is from their website (Yes, it is possible. After long periods of non-use there is a possibility that algae can form and foul the resin. If it is going to sit for a long period of time with out use)
I think im about to get one, been wanting one for ages. Here in the UK that similar unit is called cyclone spotless wash solution. Safe to say i think it's worth the investment
Thanks for the review. Definitely would reduce wash process time - spotlessly. Will seriously consider, I’m tire of getting up early to wash the cars to beat the sun. Take care
Great help Pan. I am unclear though about the need for a water softener for my house. We have very hard water (200mg/L) so initially thought I needed a water softener before the DI system. However, on one of your comments to another viewer you said the water softener actually adds TDS so he would be better off going direct from his regular water directly to the DI system. Please clarify. And, if I do install a water softener upstream from the DI system it's my understanding that water softeners are usually only on the house HOT water systems. So, is the tap to your DI system in your garage hot? Or does your garage tap not pass through the water softener? Thanks
Correct. A water softener is not needed in this scenario as it would raise the TDS levels and blow through your DI resin quicker. If all you want is a pure water with zero minerals, just get a DI system for your garage. 👍🏻
I've had that unit for years and don't use it much because the resin is too expensive. I wash with regular water then rinse with this. If you use this to wash it lasts about 10-12 washes. I also use it to wash my solar panels along with a 50ft hose on my pressure washer.
I'm thinking about starting a mobile detailing business. If I'm going to have to wash customer cars in the sun, I think this might be my only solution? Since I will rely on the customers water supply, do you think this would be a cost effective solution? So all I have to bring to the customer is my pressure washer setup + di system. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks Pan.
If you are using a mobile detail setup, you would likely have a water tank in your truck. You would fill that tank with deionized setup from your shop, before going to your customer's homes. And since you're planning on starting your detailing business, I have a bunch of cool videos that can help you out. Check these below: ✅ Is detailing really worth it? : th-cam.com/video/Yq1B_UKNayo/w-d-xo.html ✅ 20 year old detailer making $130,000 a year: th-cam.com/video/g08gkwfv1Wk/w-d-xo.html ✅ What products do you need to start a detailing business? th-cam.com/video/FLq-vKIWhKw/w-d-xo.html ✅ Digital marketing secrets to make more money with your detailing business: th-cam.com/video/Tv9GeGhA-AA/w-d-xo.html ✅ Custom installation of equipment in a mobile detailing van: th-cam.com/video/IDUwfl8GmgU/w-d-xo.html ✅ How to start a mobile car detailing business: th-cam.com/video/WV3FJcWf77I/w-d-xo.html ✅ How to become a successful entrepreneur: th-cam.com/video/wTCfVmeMeEo/w-d-xo.html ✅ Mobile detailing truck setup: th-cam.com/video/tnFjhkM4YJo/w-d-xo.html ✅ Things I wish I knew before I started detailing: th-cam.com/video/SYqWRq27YgI/w-d-xo.html ✅ How to be more efficient at detailing: th-cam.com/video/33ChaMf8dCM/w-d-xo.html ✅ Digital marketing to grow your detailing business: th-cam.com/video/1Cd3N1g6mSw/w-d-xo.html ✅ How to rank your detailing website on the 1st page of Google: th-cam.com/video/pNflfxehpHg/w-d-xo.html
Hi Pan! I just bought a TDS Meter to test my water and it averages around 700ppm which is terrible. In a case like mine, a DI system would not be very economical since I would have to change resin very frequently. Do you have any alternate solutions for someone like myself with super high PPM? I know I could do rinseless, but I enjoy using the pressure washer and stuff. Thanks!
Nice unit. I'm on a well with pretty rusty (but potable) water so it goes through a standard water softener and a GE 9" whole house filter. I'm wondering if the resin can't be flushed, just as happens in the water softener? That's the reason you have to add salt or potassium chloride. it periodically backwashes the resin beads to strip off the minerals they accumulate. Anyone with one of these units knows that changing out the resin beads is something you rarely do. In my case I inherited this unit when I bought the house ten years ago and I see no reason still to worry about their effectiveness. Merci pour la revue, Pan.
In the UK, Raceglaze do a water filter filled with resin. I’ve had one for some years now and it makes a heck of a difference. No trying required so less swirl marks.
Thank you very much Pan, this is just what I need. Also, do you mind to make a video on water pretreatment systems as they are crucial for the wastewater bylaw?
Thanks for the demonstration & review. I had been skeptical of this unit because a lot of the reviews say the resin was too expensive and ran out super quickly. But as Pan is my true father , I will buy this deionizer…
I’m still new to this DI system so I will see how long it lasts. I wash my car twice weekly. But one of my viewers told me he washes his car 1-2 times per week and his resin lasts 11 months.
@@PanTheOrganizer I look forward to the updates on longevity. 300 gallons sounds like a lot , would be interesting to measure water usage during a wash
Sometimes in the buckets and foam cannon too. But that blows through resin quicker. So most often just for the final rinse where it counts most. Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on TH-cam as we surpassed 980,000 subscribers and we have over 132 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing. How did you discover my channel by the way?
Hey Pan! I was looking into a cheap method for getting clean mineral free water for my wash buckets and I came across the Sawyer TAP filter. From what I’ve seen it has close to a 2GPM flow rate and can connect straight to a hose bib. I was planning on testing one on the end of my bucket filler as part of my wall mount system. The flow rate is cutting it too close to try with my Active 2.0, but it’s enough for filling buckets and possibly a K1700/similar entry level pressure washer with a lower flow rate.
I have a customized ro system which produces very very low tds water which I use for foam cannon, 2 bucket hand wash and final rinse. Which gives spotless wash and rich foam with the shampoo.. DI resins are pretty costly. So the very low tds ro water does the tricks for me. Nice video..
Hey quick question, can these systems work off a bucket of water rather than a water hose? I need one to clean balconies and the only water source I have is from the bathtub that I put in a bucket.
Pan, so do you think that having a water softener, in front of this system, would make the media in this system, last longer? Meaning a lot of contaminants are removed before this filter system?
Hello Pan, as I always appreciate your knowledge and experiences with your followers, my question is if I can use a water softener system and if I get the same results as in a deionizing equipment, in Mexico it is difficult for me to find a water deionizing equipment and it is easier for me to find a water softener equipment. Could you briefly exolish what the difference between both systems would be? Thank you
A water softener is better than tap water but still has minerals in it, and obviously salt content from the salty brine it needs to flush the resin. Deionized water is the best as it contains ZERO minerals in it. So impossible to have water spotting issues. That’s why I use a water deinonizer in my garage to wash cars with.
pan, thank you for clarifying my doubts, finally I would like to ask you how many months pass in the real world before you have to change the resin in your system? I understand that everything depends on the quality of the water and the gallons of water used. I am a person who likes to keep my car clean. I wash my car once a week and I would like to purchase a system free of water drop stains.
I run a mobile detailing business. I’ve been looking at this for some time now. I do run a pump between my tank and pressure washer. Would you suggest to install this before or after pump? Thanks in advance. And love your content. Whenever I have a question I just check your videos. Definitely appreciate your work.
This is horrible for a detailing business unless you can get a company to regenerate the resin. The gals u get vs the refill cost is very high. You will spend over 500 a month just in resin.
hey @PanTheOrganizer great video as always 👍🏻 Besides this unit shown in the video; are there any other good compact, a bit less inexpensive alternatives? My garage is small, and I find challenging adding more equipment. 😊
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I understand the idea behind the CR Spotless, but I find it obscure the price to pay for the system and the resin bags to refill. If your a non-business detailer and mostly work for the fun of it, it aint such a bad option I guess, but as a business it is too expensive with the alternatives out there. Here in SoCal it is easy to find a local detail supply shop that lets you rent tanks and swap them whole when used. In my area, it is about $200 for a medium tank (400-500 Gallons Output) and each swap is $50, so business wise this is a much better option if I am being real here. Also, nice video pan! Always keeping the Turbo S lookin fresh!
I currently use the simple Chuck system that is great and very easy to use. Also made by the same company. Just posted a video on my channel last week showing examples of how the water dries vs hose water. Great company and products
I’m curious if you or others are only using this for a final rinse? Water is very , very hard in Maui after being filtered by a volcano, I’ve considered this, and some sort of solution will be funded before years end. To minimize “cost per vehicle” I’d love some feedback from someone that just uses this for a final rinse.
Curious, if you have harder than average water, does that reduce the longevity of the filtering resin? As opposed to someone like you with a water softening system - would your resin packs last a lot longer?
My pleasure. I’m one of the only big detailing channels that takes time to personally reply to viewers’ TH-cam comments on a daily basis. It gets overwhelming at times, as you can imagine, with almost one million subscribers I get thousands of messages daily, but I do my best to reply to all. It takes me up to four hours every day to reply to all.
If I wanted to use this as only a final rinse should I sheet the vehicle with water or can I use the pressure washer along with this for the final rinse. What I'm getting at is would flooding the exterior with water on the vehicles enough to take care of making sure of getting the minerals deposit off or using the pressure washer enough of a through job
Pan How are you Carlos from Top Dog Mobile Detailing in Land O lakes Fl this water system has been great so far,,,, thank you for showing it on your video
I thought about getting one of those a while back, I'm glad you are testing this system out! I'd love to hear from you how long it lasted. As always, thanks for the great videos!
One question I have,I just moved to a new home last year and we don’t have regular water but a well and we also use a small water softener unit where we put some salt(similar to what you have Pan) but the water because is in Florida usa still stinks as hell and water spot like crazy a night mare for washing cars so if I buy this unit is going to be much better or I need something bigger and stronger thanks.
This will give you 100% mineral free water. But like any water deionizer setup, the harder the water that gets filter, the more often you’ll have to get new resin.
@@PanTheOrganizer that’s exactly what I thought that’s why I suggested if I need a stronger and bigger unit because believe me we have a very hard water,but of course the bigger the unit the most expensive it gets,how often would I have to change the resins filters with a water that bad?…. Thanks Pan
Because I also have a whole house water softener, it depleats the resin of the DI quicker because of higher TDS and other factors, so I have to change the resin more often than someone without a water softener. I wash not only my car but detail many cars. Also, I don’t have a water bypass valve so I’m using DI all the time for pre-rinse, snow foam, washing, final rinse, etc so I’m using the DI way too much. Ideally you’d have a bypass to use the DI just for the final rinse. Because of that, I need to change my resin every two months. I will eventually get a new setup with a bypass installed.
No worries. How did you discover my channel by the way? Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on TH-cam as we surpassed 900,000 subscribers and we have over 116 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.
I live in Phoenix where water can dry on the car by the time I get from one side to the other, so I use DI water for my entire process. That said, the CR Spotless cartridges simply don't last long enough to justify their cost. Phoenix water is also extremely hard with typical reading well over 500. I had to build my own system and go through the ordeal of having to empty my resin tank manually. Still worth it and cheaper than the CR Spotless solution..
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(*Note: this is not CR Spotless, but a model close enough in specs)
Every time I watch one of your videos there’s something else I can’t live without!
We have a reverse osmosis system at the fire station. It’s nice not even having to dry anything.
My station barely has water hose nozzles or hoses that reach the front of the truck lol
What is that guys?
@@erickposada6772 it’s an unbelievably expensive system. Can’t imagine how it’s justified but I also don’t know the situation to be completely honest.
I bet they have to keep your gear looking and working , valves, gauges, etc..... But its great if they let you use it . 👍👍
Great review as always, Pan. I bought this same unit years ago, but I'd recommend using for a final rinse only. The resin gets consumed fairly quickly when using for all steps of a wash and lasted 3, maybe 4 washes before I noticed spots after drying. The replacement resin is somewhat pricey, so using it sparingly as a final rinse only is advised. I live in Florida with notoriously hard water which is a pain, but a home softener system will definitely help prolong the resin as you say.
Thanks for your input!
a water softener won t help to increase the life of the Demineralisation resin. Water softener is just a ion exchanger, so the TDS is the same as the TDS that came in the softner. You just exchange calcium with sodium, that is easier to take off by itself, and don't make a very hard deposit.
@@sebastienlemoine8491 What if I run it through a carbon filter then RO ? will that extend the life
@@fishmonger6879 you must have an activated carbon filter before RO (most non industrials units have it usualy) because chlorine will destroy the membranes. So it will increase in a way the RO life, but it is mandatory
Pre-filter the water with carbon and UV to increase the filter duration.
I’ve had the CR Spotless DIC 20 unit for about 4-5 years now. Absolutely love it. The resin is very easy to change especially if you buy the replacement cartridges instead of buying the extra bags. A little more expensive but worth not making a mess with the resin. I use with my Karcher K5 power washer and it works just fine. I love the security it provides in not having to deal with water spots. Highly recommend it.
How many washes would you say it lasts before meeding to be replaced ?
Definitely pick one of these up, night and day difference in washing your vehicle. Apec CWS-300 is the model I use, it comes with a tester, but it isn't built in to the unit like Pan's.
I’ve been on the fence about buying one of these for years. Thanks for doing an overview Pan.
Now you know! ;)
@@PanTheOrganizer can you make a video or perhaps guide me to some video or link that can show me how to connect a pressure washer to this car spotless DIC 20. Thank you Pan.
I bought one three years ago when I bought a 2019 black Ram 1500. I don't wash my vehicles that much so after three years my filters are still good. It's also great for washing the outside of the windows of you house. I am glad with the purchase and recommend as well.
Thanks for the real world feedback! 😁
I’ve been debating whether I should pick one of these up for a while now. Thanks for doing a review Pan!
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If you have the money then do it. It’s amazing. When I work at dealerships is amazing to not need to dry the cars
@@RamseyAutoPros the turn off for me was definitely the price point. I didn’t really mind the initial investment of buying the deionizer, but the price of replacing the resin would definitely rack up over time. I only detail my own car, so it didn’t really seem worth the money to invest in this
@@Coderedpirate wash your car with regular water. Do your final rinse with DI water
@@RamseyAutoPros I live in Vegas so in the summer we regularly go over 100 degrees, plus we have extremely hard water. Do you think this'll degrade the deionizer quickly? I like the idea of just using DI water as a finisher though, definitely makes a lot of sense
I’ve been using this system for several years. Now I buy resin in bulk and no longer buy the CR cartridges. You only need it for the final rinse. If you use it for first rinse and washing (foam), you can burn up a set of cartridges in one or two washes, depending on how hard your water feed is. Get their by-pass system.
Where do you get your resin from and how much do you pay? I'm paying around $90 for a 5 gallon bucket from a local guy. Pretty sure he buys by the barrel and repackages. Is the resin you buy identical to the CR resin? The stuff I get is a bit larger in bead size, but seems to perform just the same.
I also would like to know where you get your resin from.
@@lel3450 Carzilla or obsessed garage
I use the Griots Garage single tank setup. I love it. I get close to a full season of washing if I only use it to rinse.
Thanks Pan. Great review. I've had the DIC-20 for about 2 years. Just a note that CR does sell (or did) a bypass system that allows you to switch from DI to regular water. This really saves on the cost of resin. Problem is their bypass system leaks and I reached out to CR, got a replacement and that one similarly leaked. So, my only criticism is that because there is no effective bypass system, the user needs to be prepared for the cost of replacing resin often (I get about 15 washes before my indicator goes from 0 to 1 or more...my water is considered very hard at 185 mg/L...so that seems to reduce the amount of uses I get from a resin change). To me it does not matter because water spots are horrible to get rid of even with a polisher so I consider the cost worth it to save the paint and the headaches.
Thanks for the feedback Kirk!
Have you figured out how much life the CR spotless filters get if you use RO water as a feed water?
@@MercedesMechanic I did check. My water is fairly hard (187 ppm) so when I used the DIC for a full wash, I only received about 10 washes. With the price of media pretty high that can be a bit over the top. But, rushing to finish to beat water spots is worse. Obsessed Garage came out with a bypass solution that I'm using now. Once you set it up it has worked well and that has doubled my use before having to change media. I use the DI water for rinses only and it works fine.
Final rinse is the only thing that makes sense with the cost of DI water but I’m going to go a step further and reverse osmosis my water first sometime in the next two weeks once I get all the research done of what I need. The reverse osmosis will get my water TDS down to around 5 because I have one for drinking water currently and 5 is what it’s doing now from 350 TDS all the way down to 5. So I’m getting a second one for car rinse water to then make DI water for final rinse. However for the car, I learned that a 75 GPD membrane in the RO system will not make as much waste water as my current drinking water system does, that one makes 4 gallons of waste water to clean one gallon for drinking. My new system should waste only 1 gallon per one gallon of clean water. I’ll then put the water in a 50 gallon pressure tank and hook a hose to that. As I hose off my car after washing, the water level drops inside the tank which then turns on the supply to the reverse osmosis system hence filling the tank back up. Only caveat to this is the RO system will take all day to produce 50 gallons of spot free water. I’ll only use about 5-10 gallons though but then I won’t use anymore until my next wash or a between wash rinse off. Only thing I still have to find out is how long the DI cartridge on the RO stem will last. The place I’m buying it says it should last at least 250 gallons, then I’ll change it for $30. So based on what it actually does, I may get a CR spotless which should last me a year if not longer using it only as rinse water. If anyone reading this knows something I don’t please let me know as I’m still planning how to set it up.
Great review! I have the On the Go Duel Bed Standard Deionizer that I use for a final rinse. I had my water go from 425ppm down to 0ppm!
Thanks! Yeah water deionizer systems really make a huge difference on water quality.
Yet it needs to be replaced at 0,1ppm already??
It takes a while to get there hehe. It can treat up to 300 gallons of water! A viewer of mine has one and told me it took 11 months before he had to change the resin and he washes his car 1 to 2 times per week.
Ive got 275ppm at home. With 425 at urs how long did this last you before swappin the resin out??
I have been detailing 22 years and picked one of these up 5 yrs ago. I am SO mad at myself for not having found this sooner. I always hated the drying process and know how drying can introduce swirls, etc. This is like magic to me!
Absolutely!
Love my CR Spotless...I run a splitter at the inlet of my pressure washer so I can switch between regular and deionized.water...regular for pre-rinse and wash...deionized for final rinse...Makes it last much longer...
Your video pop up on TH-cam one day I started detailing my truck now thanks to you I watch every day
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Thanks for the awesome video Pan. I noticed that the DIC-10 is listed for $500, $90 more than the larger version, so it wouldn't make any sense to purchase the smaller unit. I really need one of these for the south Florida climate.
If you have hard water issues yup this will solve that.
I’ve been looking at these for years! Especially detailing in Arizona, where the foam soap dries on the car before you can even wash or rinse 😂 they were so much cheaper years ago, now they have gone way up in price! It’s still worth it out here in the desert though!
Check out Suds and Go , how he set up his trailer for D.I water using RV modes conversion. Also check out when he opens the back door.
I have really really hard water, I bought one of these a couple years ago and it worked for 2 car washes... thats it. Now I have a reverse osmosis 35 gallon water system and it works perfectly. I have used it for the last 2 years.
Same here, it's insane. I'd be replacing resin every week. What system do you have? I reached out to US Watersystems for a quote once, but it still seemed too pricey. I've been using distilled water for years with a ghetto worx battery "pressure washer" does the job, but not sure of it being truly deposit free. It is a $1/gallon so all in all, not a killer.
ZeroWater filter pitchers use the exact same resin based filtering, just on a much smaller scale. You get to know that "fishy" smell very well. It's even worse when you're going to drink it.. 😁 Cool video, thanks Pan! 👍👌✌
Culligan Water installed my DI system years ago but commented not many home owners have them. They are usually for factories making electronic parts. I have three 4’ tanks and a dedicated spigot running outside. I use a pressure washer because it uses less water. I have well water (dirty hard water) and a water softener. The DI system I use for the whole wash, not just rinse. Suds are heavy, but the best part is if you don’t towel dry, you still will not have spots with Di, demineralization water. Amazing but true. I wash my Harley road king, lots of chrome, no spots even when left soaking wet to dry.
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Yeah there are many things to think of. Thanks Harlem!
Most of it has unfortunately become smoke and mirrors. A proper drying aid, like the ones used in tunnel washes, will cost about $20 for 10 gallons and give you plenty of time to dry your car. If you're detailing as a business then this is, after the initial purchase of $410, $120 per 300 gallons, which is only about 30 vehicles if your mindful of water usage, or $4 per car when you could use 15c worth of drying aid for the same end result.
Edit: Even better, I'm seeing comments of 5-20 washes. Absolutely nuts. $6-$24 per wash. You'd be better off going to a mega mart and just buying RO water at .25 a gallon.
@@datguy4104 That is an interesting point
Hello Pan.
Thanks again for this interesting video.
Any solution to purchase this equipment for french people or any other equivalent equipment that you would recommend?
Thanks for your help!
As tu trouvé un équivalent depuis?
J'ai bien vu le système anglais de chez cyclone car care mais une galère à se procurer. Merci
I've been using this same model CR Spotless (DIC-20) for about 2 years now. It's does exactly what the manufacturer claims. Just be sure to use a designated rinse hose with the supplied spray nozzle and it works! CR Spotless also has a resin filter exchange and the price is good. They'll send two new filters, two long and sturdy plastic bags, and a pre-paid return label. You can then return them in the same box.
Absolutely love your Channel Pan!!! Shoutout all the way from South Africa. I'm starting up a mobile car wash/detailing service for the guys struggling with the sea breeze inland containing salt/fallout particles, highway debris, etc. . I have a passion for clean detailed cars and trucks. I myself drive a Ford Ranger and the car washes we have here is uneducated. My New truck is about 6months old, and after watching some of your videos, I took a walk around my own truck and started noticing a lot of things that went wrong in the wash bays. I can be a hard-ass for finding things wrong...lol.. It makes me sad as its an expensive part of one's life.... I didn't realize this until I've watched most of your videos!! Keep up the good work!! #supporter for life!!!
What’s up Pan from Mexico 🇲🇽 ! My TDS in my water is 325 PPM and I get a DI system, I had to change the resin every 4 washes and it was very expensive, so I did some research and installed a reverse osmosis system and a 50 liter pressurized tank (16 galons, just for rinse, foam, rinse and rinse the soap, 2 buckets method). With this system I got down to 4 PPM, then hooked it up to my reverse DI system and it went down to 0 PPM. Now I have 6 months without changing the resin (0 PPM) and I already recovered the money from the reverse osmosis system.
Interesting! Looks like you had pretty hard water to start with.
I own the same system and love it can't ever go back! The only drawback for me living in the desert is our water quality isn't that great. So the resin. Only lasts me 10 to 14 washes roughly. So its a pricey luxury for me. Still a great product.
Im detailing out of my truck which is a low profile setup. My question is can I just buy the water deionizer system for my house, hook it up to the spigot, and then just run a hose to fill up my water tank? Would that be the best thing for me to do if I want deionized water/cost effective? My tank is only 68 gallons
I see that the refill resins are quite expensive but the one's from Broutech are much cheaper.. Is it safe to assume these are interchangeable?
You would have to write to CR Spotless and ask them. I don't have the answer to that unfortunately.
Hello, i just ordered the Eley hose nozzle for the CR Spotless system. How many gallons per minute is the output on that nozzle? Thanks!
Hey Pan! Thanks again for these awesome videos! I AM GETTING ONE OF THESE ASAP...I appreciate you and your videos...Your channel is the only detailing channel I watch sir...You DEFINITELY know your stuff my friend!!👍🏾
Thanks for the kind words and positive feedback Joey! What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?
@@PanTheOrganizer,
Well sir, I have a few favorite videos, but 1 of my favorites is your updated garage, & then there's the video when you 1st got that beautiful Porsche, & the video(s) where you explain the detail products you use & the best product for certain jobs... My friend, I could go on & on! Just know Pan I greatly respect you, I actually got some new items thanks to you, So I really appreciate your time to do these videos sir!👍🏾💯🚘🚗
Did you have any issues with the ELEY garden hose you have connected to the CR Spoteless System due to the orifice size being a little larger than the standard 5/8 inch?
Pan my soft water has tds of 400. Is it better to deionize soft or hard water if tds is the same.
This is definitely a fantastic unit for the home. Quality seems top notch. Great video pan. 👍🇨🇦
Thanks!
When I purchased a similar unit here in Australia I installed a 5 micron pre filter unit. This will make your main filters last longer.
Great video Pan. RV Mods sells an attachment for your system, if you haven't bought it already. Filter rods that allow you to pack more resin into each container by removing the need for the inner plastic resin containers.
I have a DI system, different brand but same concept, and I would suggest anyone about to purchase a unit like this, get a TDS meter and find out how hard your water is first, because that will help determine the continued cost by replacing expensive resin. For instance, I live in Florida where TDS is easily over 400. It goes through the resin very quickly. I have an irrigation well that is only 200+ TDS in comparison, so I use it and it helps to save the resin for more rinse cycles before replacement.
I have seen videos where reverse osmosis setups that fill a tank and use a small pump to push the water out will lower TDS to about 10 before it hits the DI resin and really elongates the DI resin for thousands of gallons of 0 ppm water. I could easily see your already impressive garage adding that to the setup.
I'm definitely getting one if I ever get my garage cleaned out
I use the replacement cartridges vs the resin bag. Real easy, a little more $ but worth to not worry about measuring
I agree. I prefer replacement cartridges too.
I wonder how do you maintain this DI water system? I only wash my car every 2 or 3 weeks in one month, do I need to dry the filter (resin) to prevent some kind of molding?
No maintenance other then switching to new resin when the TDS meter indicates anything above 0
Enjoyed this video. I am in the process of gathering the parts to do a wall mount solution for my pressure washer. I bought a shelf and Cox reel from Obsessed Garage, but wanted to see what you thought of the CR Spotless before buying. It’s hard to wash my car outside since it is sunny all day and I do not want to wait until the sun goes down. I put a lot of stock in what you have to say. Thanks!
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Hello Pan ,
Do you get decent pressure out of the Eley spray nozzle when using it with the CR spotless ?
Yes. Even with my pressure washer the DI system doesn’t affect the pressure.
Yes, hard water resides in our system. Very good review, Pan! Maybe I'll pull the trigger on one of these in 2022. Thank You!
Thanks Jay!
@@PanTheOrganizer You're welcome! I hope all is well.
I have the CR Spotless DIC-20 that I have used for years. The pressure washer I use has a output of 1.3GPM which in turns gives me about 3.84 hours of use. That might seem like a lot of time but using it to wash 3-4 vehicles a week at my house hold I find I am replacing the resin filters every 3 months at $119 ($480 for the year) for the two filter exchanges from CR Spotless. It does work great and as advertised.
Good to know thanks for your input!
DI water is awesome for washing, especially a black car. I got the Simple Chuck version from CR Spotless, works great and no more spots.
Yup!
ok if it 300 gallons of water before you replace the resin beads, does it last longer with the water softener attached to it ? or is it 300 gallons still.
I buy purified water at a water store to drink. Can I put that in an IK sprayer combined with soap for a better wash on a lightly dirty car?
Yes
I have the same cr spotless with wheels I always drain mine when I'm done and let it dry, I also have a bypass on mine with quick disconnect
Do you find it necessary to drain the tanks? How long does it sit idle between uses? Lastly, how do you know it prolongs the life of the resin?. Thanks.
@@cheferman65 this is from their website (Yes, it is possible. After long periods of non-use there is a possibility that algae can form and foul the resin. If it is going to sit for a long period of time with out use)
Is there anyway for the resin to last longer? Do you use this after every wash?
I use it just for the final rinse, where it counts most.
Hi Pan as-tu déjà figuré combien d’auto tu peux rincer avant de changer la résine ou le coût par rinçage? Merci
Non ça serait un peu exagéré commencer à calculer tout ça.
I would love to see a video of your home system and the maintenance on it
Pan, great choice; I’ve own mine now for four years. Have a great weekend buddy.
Thanks William! How often do you change your resin and how often do you wash your car?
@@PanTheOrganizer I change it about every 3-months.
I think im about to get one, been wanting one for ages. Here in the UK that similar unit is called cyclone spotless wash solution. Safe to say i think it's worth the investment
Yup!
Do you have tried it?
Thanks for the review. Definitely would reduce wash process time - spotlessly. Will seriously consider, I’m tire of getting up early to wash the cars to beat the sun. Take care
Thanks Steve!
Great help Pan. I am unclear though about the need for a water softener for my house. We have very hard water (200mg/L) so initially thought I needed a water softener before the DI system. However, on one of your comments to another viewer you said the water softener actually adds TDS so he would be better off going direct from his regular water directly to the DI system. Please clarify. And, if I do install a water softener upstream from the DI system it's my understanding that water softeners are usually only on the house HOT water systems. So, is the tap to your DI system in your garage hot? Or does your garage tap not pass through the water softener? Thanks
Correct. A water softener is not needed in this scenario as it would raise the TDS levels and blow through your DI resin quicker.
If all you want is a pure water with zero minerals, just get a DI system for your garage. 👍🏻
Great video. Do you soften your water for everything in your house? Outside spigots? Etc.
Yes all the house water is softened.
Found a new use for my RODI machine for my saltwater fish tanks! Always have 25 gallons waiting
I've had that unit for years and don't use it much because the resin is too expensive. I wash with regular water then rinse with this. If you use this to wash it lasts about 10-12 washes. I also use it to wash my solar panels along with a 50ft hose on my pressure washer.
I'm thinking about starting a mobile detailing business. If I'm going to have to wash customer cars in the sun, I think this might be my only solution? Since I will rely on the customers water supply, do you think this would be a cost effective solution? So all I have to bring to the customer is my pressure washer setup + di system. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks Pan.
If you are using a mobile detail setup, you would likely have a water tank in your truck. You would fill that tank with deionized setup from your shop, before going to your customer's homes.
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Hi Pan! I just bought a TDS Meter to test my water and it averages around 700ppm which is terrible. In a case like mine, a DI system would not be very economical since I would have to change resin very frequently. Do you have any alternate solutions for someone like myself with super high PPM? I know I could do rinseless, but I enjoy using the pressure washer and stuff. Thanks!
Apparently an RO membrane based system could also do the job, but those are quite expensive from my understanding.
Nice unit. I'm on a well with pretty rusty (but potable) water so it goes through a standard water softener and a GE 9" whole house filter.
I'm wondering if the resin can't be flushed, just as happens in the water softener? That's the reason you have to add salt or potassium chloride. it periodically backwashes the resin beads to strip off the minerals they accumulate. Anyone with one of these units knows that changing out the resin beads is something you rarely do. In my case I inherited this unit when I bought the house ten years ago and I see no reason still to worry about their effectiveness.
Merci pour la revue, Pan.
In the UK, Raceglaze do a water filter filled with resin. I’ve had one for some years now and it makes a heck of a difference. No trying required so less swirl marks.
Thanks for the review! Very nice system… especially with it being portable!
Thanks Kyle!
Have to get one of these now that I’m detailing my Tesla on the regular
Thank you very much Pan, this is just what I need. Also, do you mind to make a video on water pretreatment systems as they are crucial for the wastewater bylaw?
Thanks for watching
Should I get Medium or, High Output?
Thinking of mounting in my truck on a bracket that can be pulled up to the canopy window.
I went for the high output as I wash often. If you use it as a professional, you'll likely want to go for the HO as well.
Thanks for the demonstration & review. I had been skeptical of this unit because a lot of the reviews say the resin was too expensive and ran out super quickly. But as Pan is my true father , I will buy this deionizer…
I’m still new to this DI system so I will see how long it lasts. I wash my car twice weekly. But one of my viewers told me he washes his car 1-2 times per week and his resin lasts 11 months.
@@PanTheOrganizer I look forward to the updates on longevity. 300 gallons sounds like a lot , would be interesting to measure water usage during a wash
I use RV-Mods DI water system. you get more deionized water out of their system.
Pan love the channel. Do you use the DI water in the buckets and during the entire process or just final rinse?
Sometimes in the buckets and foam cannon too. But that blows through resin quicker. So most often just for the final rinse where it counts most.
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Wow!!! Very low cost!!!!!!!! I want one of these so bad. I haven't tried anything like this since the "Mr Clean Auto Dry" :)
Hey Pan! I was looking into a cheap method for getting clean mineral free water for my wash buckets and I came across the Sawyer TAP filter. From what I’ve seen it has close to a 2GPM flow rate and can connect straight to a hose bib. I was planning on testing one on the end of my bucket filler as part of my wall mount system. The flow rate is cutting it too close to try with my Active 2.0, but it’s enough for filling buckets and possibly a K1700/similar entry level pressure washer with a lower flow rate.
I have a customized ro system which produces very very low tds water which I use for foam cannon, 2 bucket hand wash and final rinse. Which gives spotless wash and rich foam with the shampoo.. DI resins are pretty costly. So the very low tds ro water does the tricks for me. Nice video..
Thanks Kausik
Hey quick question, can these systems work off a bucket of water rather than a water hose? I need one to clean balconies and the only water source I have is from the bathtub that I put in a bucket.
You these need to be hooked up to a garden hose with a steady water supply.
Thanks Pan. I didn’t know a system like that existed. Good to know.
We always learn new things. ;)
@@PanTheOrganizer Thats for sure, for me a weekend warrior, and a black car I always use a chamois or towel to try it as I dont want water spots!
Pan, so do you think that having a water softener, in front of this system, would make the media in this system, last longer? Meaning a lot of contaminants are removed before this filter system?
Yes, as the water isn't as hard coming into the deionizer. I will see over time how this all works. :)
So it’s a cation resin upstream of an anion resin. Always wondered what they put in those filter housings. Cool.
This seems nice and this system doesn't need power supply? Mineral free water is it not suggested for drinking?
No power needed. And don’t drink this water.
I use the same brand. I love them !
I’m in North Texas
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Hello Pan, as I always appreciate your knowledge and experiences with your followers, my question is if I can use a water softener system and if I get the same results as in a deionizing equipment, in Mexico it is difficult for me to find a water deionizing equipment and it is easier for me to find a water softener equipment. Could you briefly exolish what the difference between both systems would be? Thank you
A water softener is better than tap water but still has minerals in it, and obviously salt content from the salty brine it needs to flush the resin.
Deionized water is the best as it contains ZERO minerals in it. So impossible to have water spotting issues. That’s why I use a water deinonizer in my garage to wash cars with.
pan, thank you for clarifying my doubts, finally I would like to ask you how many months pass in the real world before you have to change the resin in your system? I understand that everything depends on the quality of the water and the gallons of water used. I am a person who likes to keep my car clean. I wash my car once a week and I would like to purchase a system free of water drop stains.
This is Awesome!!!!
Thanks for presenting it Pan 👍
Thanks Franco!
@@PanTheOrganizer can't wait to see your next video
I run a mobile detailing business. I’ve been looking at this for some time now. I do run a pump between my tank and pressure washer. Would you suggest to install this before or after pump? Thanks in advance. And love your content. Whenever I have a question I just check your videos. Definitely appreciate your work.
If your mobile its best to rent a DI tank from a local shop and swap when used. It is cheaper and less of a "refill" hassle.
This is horrible for a detailing business unless you can get a company to regenerate the resin. The gals u get vs the refill cost is very high. You will spend over 500 a month just in resin.
hey @PanTheOrganizer great video as always 👍🏻 Besides this unit shown in the video; are there any other good compact, a bit less inexpensive alternatives? My garage is small, and I find challenging adding more equipment. 😊
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That should be good for 400 gallons of water, which is a lot.
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I hope this helps!
I understand the idea behind the CR Spotless, but I find it obscure the price to pay for the system and the resin bags to refill. If your a non-business detailer and mostly work for the fun of it, it aint such a bad option I guess, but as a business it is too expensive with the alternatives out there. Here in SoCal it is easy to find a local detail supply shop that lets you rent tanks and swap them whole when used. In my area, it is about $200 for a medium tank (400-500 Gallons Output) and each swap is $50, so business wise this is a much better option if I am being real here.
Also, nice video pan! Always keeping the Turbo S lookin fresh!
Good point for detailing shops Cardo!
I only use this for a final rinse. Replacing the resin is not cheap.
Do you use this throughout the entire wash process or just the final rinse?
I use it through the entire wash process but most people use it only for the final rinse as you can preserve your resin for longer by using it less.
Thanks for being the MY go to guy for detailing cars. Will get this soon. Also what's the best iron remover that won't break the bank??
CarPro IronX is my favourite. You also have Gyeon Iron, Optimum Ferrex and P&S Iron Buster that are good alternatives.
I currently use the simple Chuck system that is great and very easy to use. Also made by the same company. Just posted a video on my channel last week showing examples of how the water dries vs hose water. Great company and products
Cool!
I’m curious if you or others are only using this for a final rinse? Water is very , very hard in Maui after being filtered by a volcano, I’ve considered this, and some sort of solution will be funded before years end. To minimize “cost per vehicle” I’d love some feedback from someone that just uses this for a final rinse.
I may consider this system, I've been looking for one but these refills cost quite a bit. Are we able to use other Resin refills with this kit?
I don’t have an answer to that unfortunately. You would have to check with CR Spotless.
you can, however, not all resins are the same, check your cheaper source, it may be regenerated as opposed to new.
Hi Pan, Did you calculate how many cars you've washed before changing the DI filters.? I'm in the market for a DI filter system. Thanks Claudio
I don’t calculate. I simply change the resin when the PPM is above zero.
Curious, if you have harder than average water, does that reduce the longevity of the filtering resin? As opposed to someone like you with a water softening system - would your resin packs last a lot longer?
I’m no water expert but my guess would be if you have super hard water the resins have a lot more work to do so won’t last as long.
When should I use my deionized water.? So I can save resin not sure if I should use it all the time or just the final rinse
Just the final rinse.
@@PanTheOrganizer wow 1 year later and you still reply.. simply awesome. Thank you so much pan 👍
My pleasure. I’m one of the only big detailing channels that takes time to personally reply to viewers’ TH-cam comments on a daily basis.
It gets overwhelming at times, as you can imagine, with almost one million subscribers I get thousands of messages daily, but I do my best to reply to all. It takes me up to four hours every day to reply to all.
Hey pan. Great video. Can you set this up the opposite way? As in have the water enter and exit the cr the opposite way you have it set up?? Thanks!
Not to my knowledge. But you could email the company and ask them.
If I wanted to use this as only a final rinse should I sheet the vehicle with water or can I use the pressure washer along with this for the final rinse. What I'm getting at is would flooding the exterior with water on the vehicles enough to take care of making sure of getting the minerals deposit off or using the pressure washer enough of a through job
You can use this with a garden hose or pressure washer, as you wish.
Pan How are you Carlos from Top Dog Mobile Detailing in Land O lakes Fl this water system has been great so far,,,, thank you for showing it on your video
Fantastic!
I thought about getting one of those a while back, I'm glad you are testing this system out! I'd love to hear from you how long it lasted. As always, thanks for the great videos!
Thanks Allen
One question I have,I just moved to a new home last year and we don’t have regular water but a well and we also use a small water softener unit where we put some salt(similar to what you have Pan) but the water because is in Florida usa still stinks as hell and water spot like crazy a night mare for washing cars so if I buy this unit is going to be much better or I need something bigger and stronger thanks.
This will give you 100% mineral free water. But like any water deionizer setup, the harder the water that gets filter, the more often you’ll have to get new resin.
@@PanTheOrganizer that’s exactly what I thought that’s why I suggested if I need a stronger and bigger unit because believe me we have a very hard water,but of course the bigger the unit the most expensive it gets,how often would I have to change the resins filters with a water that bad?…. Thanks Pan
Hi Pan, have you looked at Adams Unit. Seams to filter more total gallons. There unit is cool being black in Color.
I haven’t.
Just got this bad boy a few weeks ago and it was a game changer. Great review Pan!
Thanks Rex! Did you have hard water issues before?
How often do you personally have to change out the resin, washing your car twice weekly? Thank you
Because I also have a whole house water softener, it depleats the resin of the DI quicker because of higher TDS and other factors, so I have to change the resin more often than someone without a water softener.
I wash not only my car but detail many cars. Also, I don’t have a water bypass valve so I’m using DI all the time for pre-rinse, snow foam, washing, final rinse, etc so I’m using the DI way too much. Ideally you’d have a bypass to use the DI just for the final rinse.
Because of that, I need to change my resin every two months.
I will eventually get a new setup with a bypass installed.
@@PanTheOrganizer Understood. I was just curious. Thank you for the quick and thorough response.
No worries. How did you discover my channel by the way?
Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on TH-cam as we surpassed 900,000 subscribers and we have over 116 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers.
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@@PanTheOrganizer I believe I just stumbled upon it from watching detailing videos. That damn algorithm, I tell ya what...
I live in Phoenix where water can dry on the car by the time I get from one side to the other, so I use DI water for my entire process. That said, the CR Spotless cartridges simply don't last long enough to justify their cost. Phoenix water is also extremely hard with typical reading well over 500. I had to build my own system and go through the ordeal of having to empty my resin tank manually. Still worth it and cheaper than the CR Spotless solution..