Fantastic Video! Ive been looking into this bit its great to see the breakdown of costs so i have a good idea of what to expect! Ordering a TDS meter now. Thanks
For us poor weekend car buffs, I found that after a good hand wash and rinse, I can just hit it off with a 3 to 1 mix of formula 4 in a spray bottle, another quick rinse, and I have a good 10 minute open time to dry off in hot sun with zero water spots.
@@The_Cyberz It's very good. I usually spray it, rinse it off, and hit it with my big back pack blower. Water just strips right off. I'm surprised detailers on't give it more attention than they do.
According to your spreadsheet, the "On The Go" dual tank system is the cheapest, overall, at 63 cents per gallon. Add your water company's cost per gallon and it's still cheaper than the other ones. I'm leaning toward that system right now. Very good video. Thanks for the spreadsheet, too. Now, that was easy.👍
Thanks for the video Josh. Probably one of the best explanations I have seen. It really does come down to cost per gal, and with the bypass and the usage of PH neutral soaps the Adam's set up should last a customer a long time.
For those of us I. San Diego, where PureTech is located, rental tanks are only an option as a business, they do not provide these tanks on a delivery basis for residential use. I researched this as I was ready to invest in a DI system. You can purchase the tank setup as you have, and they will recharge your spent tank, but you have to being into the shop in Kearny Mesa. Which for most people isn’t practical as the sheer weight of the tank, even emptied is still stupid heavy. CRSpotlessis also located in San Diego (El Cajon) and you can pick up the system and save the cost of shipping which is built into that cost. I know this as I bought one from them. They also have a bulk media program so when you change out your resins you can turn in your spent resin for new resin and substantial discount. The upfront cost was more, but the resin trade in makes ongoing cost significantly less. I calculated the same system you had and found CRSpotless to be my most cost effective means to spot free water, but only because the vendor is in my city and I can easily drive to the facility. I save on shipping costs for the resin trade in program too. Great video, and I was trying to pinch dollars by doing bypass wash, but if the sun peaks out (and my TDS is nearly 500) I’m screwed and had it happen more than once. I’m all in on DI water and spot free washes!
Excellent video!! I spoke with Puretec last year about opening a branch in southwest Houston last year and it sounded promising. Culligan’s is our only supplier here that I could find, they quoted something like $250 down and $40 a month and another $250 each time they changed a tank. The biggest draw back to the portable units like Adam’s is the cost each time of the resin replacement.
I got one of those cheap yard sprayers... and i buy gallons of distilled water from the grocery. Fill up the sprayer, pressurize it, and spray the car down after the wash. No spots !!!
I have a Reverse Osmosis Deionized (RO/DI) system for my saltwater aquarium. I get 1ppm TDS coming off my dual RO membranes, that's before going into the DI resin, the resin lasts much much longer with only 1ppm going into it. For washing a car, you probably wouldn't need the DI stage anymore, 1PPM would still leave you with spot free finish.
Definitely the way to go for professional results. I've never used the Adam's ionizer system, but I have used several other Adam products for which I like. I personally like this system - CR Spotless Water Systems - DIC-20
Love my Puretec garage set up! They are a great company and are super easy to work with. I bought a tank from them (about $600) and I just exchange the tank when it depletes (which is $40).
I’m glad you covered this, I was thinking about the cr spotless system but now I’m doing the hmmmm lol, I wash my own cars early in the morning but still get water spots especially on tinted windows, thanks Josh 👍😁
I use distilled water with a battery powered pressure washer since I don’t have access to running water. Do you plan on reviewing any more battery powered pressure washers?
Can I use regular 5/8 garden hose instead of the hose is provided in the kit of Adam Spotless water system? Thank You for taking the time to answer my question.
Only company we have that has di tank rent is Culligan in north Texas. Closes one from me is 45 mins in Dallas. They won’t deliver I’m to far and plus they are hard to get a hold of on the phone.
Thanks for the information Josh have been looking at this for quite some time and glad someone shared some information in regards before I made a final decision. Which was leaning into that duel tank system from on the go.
Adam’s stopped allowing the discount several months ago & their customer service said that was permanent. RV Mods has better systems & mods available for anyone with a CR Spotless system.
Yeah I think the suds n go channel used RV mods and it cut down his resin usage a ton. He’s about to launch his own RO/DI system. At 274 TDS the RO system alone brings TDS to 005. I’m not sure the price point but it won’t be cheap I’m sure.
Well done vid Josh. We have an RO system for our Ice plant and banana rooms. Ice is crystal clear. We have a service contract with Evoca for the battery rooms. DI water is very different as it removes the iron in the water. Without DI water it will rust out piping internally and keep out the water spots. What do recommend for the home user Thank you.
Josh, please help me out. I watched a video on a filtered spot free set up for your garage. All the parts were found on amazon and you had links. At the end you had a nice map on how to attach it all including a hose reel. I bought all the parts , but now I can’t find the video on how to set it up. Please let me know the name of the video. Thanks
Hey Josh, I know that for a mobile detailer the best solution is to refill the water tank directly with filtered water. Sure! But What about if i filter the water in the outflow from the tank just for a final filtered rinse (not through the pressure washer but through a Garden hose flow). Does the passage of the water pumped by simple gravity will be affected by the filter and stop the flow?? 🙄🤔 Have you tried?
Im not sure how it works for those tanks but for my RODI system I have for my reef tank (0 TDS is an ABSOLUTE necessity), the 2 chambers I have (cation and anion) will degrade at different speeds. You need both cation and anion to get 0 TDS. When the combo unit is ready to be refilled it is because one of them is used up and the other is still healthy. But you need to replace the whole thing, wasting the other half. If that makes sense? With the dual chamber/tank setup, you can replace the one that is spent while the other still has life in it. You shouldn't need to replace both at the same time. At least that is the way it is on my deionizing setup at home for my reef. Maybe these work differently?
Could I just fill up one of my 1 gallon sprayers with PUR water from my fridge(0 TDS) and do a final spray down of the vehicle after rinsing the soap off?
Great videos! Been watching a ton! Quick random question, do you know if the hose reel you have will support a 1/4” hose vs a 3/8” hose? Wanting to get one and use either the uberflex of the revzilla but can’t seem to find an answer. Thanks!
Btw check out Cars with Keavs channel, he's gone over some awesome stuff and solutions more in the DIY realm and he recently finalized his budget wash cart, it'd be cool to see your thoughts and approach to a dedicated wash cart to compare and contrast with. He's also mentioned that he's aware of your channel and a fan so it'd be awesome to see you guys do something together or even just bounce ideas and approaches to things off one another.
Hey Josh I bought that pressure washer hose reel you recommended, before I head to the store tomorrow can you tell me what nipple fitting works for a normal m22 hose?
what about a pre filter sediment filter and carbon filter ie RO system before the water hits the DI tank. I can get 10,000 Gallons from my setup total cost for me was about 900 dollars
I wonder if running a couple 2.5"x10" sediment filters before the DI tank will extend the life of the resin. I live in Vegas, and our TDS is 400+. The On-The-Go website says the Dual Bed Standard at 400 ppm would yield 315 gallons.
Josh check out Suds and Go ,Brice has has the best system for Mobile detailers. You could install His R .O system on your wall to save money on bottles.
I did the numbers for puretec; replacing the tank twice a year with monthly rental is about $300, divided by 3000(200ppm) will yield a .10 cents per gallon expense....the cheapest/easiest method.
@imjoshv Could you share the model number and Meg rating of the Resilite sensor? I have the one that measures 1 Meg, but curious if yours is the same...
I think the numbers may not be all that they seem. CR rates their usage for staying at 0ppm. I think the on the go system is up to 10ppm or even higher for their rating. Have you checked?
Cat ion, and an ion. One tank is pulling positively charged particles out and the other is pulling the negativity charged particles out, giving you deionized water. Thumbs baby let’s go!
Yooo Josh, I'm mobile only, I just purchased the On the Go System. How do you set up your mobile set up. As far as the tank to a pump to the filter? And what pump should I get to pull the water from tha tank but still filter water from the filter without having to much GPM suction?
If you dont live in California you wont have access to Puretec's services.. I live in Texas now and the water companies here charge hundreds of dollars for tank exchanges.. I wish puretec would expand
The #1 thing I'd like to know is do you run your deionizer through the pressure washer at high pressure? I built an entry level set up in my garage and I've been turning the pressure washer off and using the low pressure passthrough when doing the final spot free rinse. I do this under an assumption that had from self serve car wash bays. Every setting in a car wash bay is high pressure except for the spot free rinse. I am assuming that the filters can't handle the throughput. However after looking at my deionizer's specs and my pressure washer's specs I think the GPM on the washer's intake is within limits of the filter. So perhaps I can run it at high pressure?
Adams doesn't manufacturer that deionizer and the actual manufacturer won't let Adams discount beyond a set MAP. This is probably why the code stopped working once they realized that happened. They had this system listed as a door buster for their Black Friday sale but when I went to buy it in person, they said the door buster price only applied to the resin even though the picture was of the actual unit itself. :(
Fantastic Video! Ive been looking into this bit its great to see the breakdown of costs so i have a good idea of what to expect! Ordering a TDS meter now. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
@@imjoshv where did you get the sensor (w/ green/red light indicator)? Do you have a link for that?
It comes with the rental unit 🤤
For us poor weekend car buffs, I found that after a good hand wash and rinse, I can just hit it off with a 3 to 1 mix of formula 4 in a spray bottle, another quick rinse, and I have a good 10 minute open time to dry off in hot sun with zero water spots.
Formula 4 is legit, it’s made about 10 minutes from my house
@@The_Cyberz It's very good. I usually spray it, rinse it off, and hit it with my big back pack blower. Water just strips right off. I'm surprised detailers on't give it more attention than they do.
@@The_Cyberz formula 4 from cycle care?
@@youphilme_ no its called formula 4 spray wax, from a company called "Superior Products"
According to your spreadsheet, the "On The Go" dual tank system is the cheapest, overall, at 63 cents per gallon. Add your water company's cost per gallon and it's still cheaper than the other ones. I'm leaning toward that system right now.
Very good video. Thanks for the spreadsheet, too.
Now, that was easy.👍
Thanks for the video Josh. Probably one of the best explanations I have seen. It really does come down to cost per gal, and with the bypass and the usage of PH neutral soaps the Adam's set up should last a customer a long time.
How does the tank you offer works once it's done dirty can you exchange for a new one or just toss it and buy a new one
For those of us I. San Diego, where PureTech is located, rental tanks are only an option as a business, they do not provide these tanks on a delivery basis for residential use. I researched this as I was ready to invest in a DI system. You can purchase the tank setup as you have, and they will recharge your spent tank, but you have to being into the shop in Kearny Mesa. Which for most people isn’t practical as the sheer weight of the tank, even emptied is still stupid heavy. CRSpotlessis also located in San Diego (El Cajon) and you can pick up the system and save the cost of shipping which is built into that cost. I know this as I bought one from them. They also have a bulk media program so when you change out your resins you can turn in your spent resin for new resin and substantial discount. The upfront cost was more, but the resin trade in makes ongoing cost significantly less. I calculated the same system you had and found CRSpotless to be my most cost effective means to spot free water, but only because the vendor is in my city and I can easily drive to the facility. I save on shipping costs for the resin trade in program too. Great video, and I was trying to pinch dollars by doing bypass wash, but if the sun peaks out (and my TDS is nearly 500) I’m screwed and had it happen more than once. I’m all in on DI water and spot free washes!
Great video. I have a spotless RODI system. You’re right it is expensive but by far the most cost effective way to produce spotless water.
Excellent video!! I spoke with Puretec last year about opening a branch in southwest Houston last year and it sounded promising. Culligan’s is our only supplier here that I could find, they quoted something like $250 down and $40 a month and another $250 each time they changed a tank. The biggest draw back to the portable units like Adam’s is the cost each time of the resin replacement.
I got one of those cheap yard sprayers... and i buy gallons of distilled water from the grocery. Fill up the sprayer, pressurize it, and spray the car down after the wash. No spots !!!
What brand sprayer did you buy?
How many gallons are you using for the whole car?
I have a Reverse Osmosis Deionized (RO/DI) system for my saltwater aquarium. I get 1ppm TDS coming off my dual RO membranes, that's before going into the DI resin, the resin lasts much much longer with only 1ppm going into it.
For washing a car, you probably wouldn't need the DI stage anymore, 1PPM would still leave you with spot free finish.
Definitely the way to go for professional results. I've never used the Adam's ionizer system, but I have used several other Adam products for which I like. I personally like this system - CR Spotless Water Systems - DIC-20
Love my Puretec garage set up! They are a great company and are super easy to work with. I bought a tank from them (about $600) and I just exchange the tank when it depletes (which is $40).
when you exchange the tank, do you have take it to the facility or do they come to you to replace it?
I take it to their facility to exchange the tank.
I’m glad you covered this, I was thinking about the cr spotless system but now I’m doing the hmmmm lol, I wash my own cars early in the morning but still get water spots especially on tinted windows, thanks Josh 👍😁
Thanks for that education you just gave us.
Have you ever heard of the Unger rinse n go? It's sold at costco and it's basically a small resin filter.
I use distilled water with a battery powered pressure washer since I don’t have access to running water. Do you plan on reviewing any more battery powered pressure washers?
What an excellent review! I actually just placed an order with On the Go. I sent a note to them and gave you credit for the sale!
Can I use regular 5/8 garden hose instead of the hose is provided in the kit of Adam Spotless water system? Thank You for taking the time to answer my question.
Great video, wish I could justify getting a DI system but its not happening anytime soon.
I’m in north Texas with 180 tds. I have the on the go small mix bed tank with bypass for final rinse. Works great. Great video.
Only company we have that has di tank rent is Culligan in north Texas. Closes one from me is 45 mins in Dallas. They won’t deliver I’m to far and plus they are hard to get a hold of on the phone.
@David Gotelli Damn that’s crazy. Yea I was surprised mines was 180. I thought for sure it was going to be in 300s or higher.
Great info and very helpful. Not in my budget anytime in the next few years. I’ll stick w/Koch Chemie Fse as a drying aid and make the best of it.
Thanks for the information Josh have been looking at this for quite some time and glad someone shared some information in regards before I made a final decision. Which was leaning into that duel tank system from on the go.
Adam’s stopped allowing the discount several months ago & their customer service said that was permanent. RV Mods has better systems & mods available for anyone with a CR Spotless system.
I just would have bought one tonight... Sorry adams, too expensive
Yeah I think the suds n go channel used RV mods and it cut down his resin usage a ton. He’s about to launch his own RO/DI system. At 274 TDS the RO system alone brings TDS to 005. I’m not sure the price point but it won’t be cheap I’m sure.
Well done vid Josh. We have an RO system for our Ice plant and banana rooms. Ice is crystal clear. We have a service contract with Evoca for the battery rooms. DI water is very different as it removes the iron in the water. Without DI water it will rust out piping internally and keep out the water spots. What do recommend for the home user Thank you.
Thank you sir for the info on the water,I'm new to detailing & you cleared up a lot for me💯💯💯💪💪
Josh, please help me out. I watched a video on a filtered spot free set up for your garage. All the parts were found on amazon and you had links. At the end you had a nice map on how to attach it all including a hose reel. I bought all the parts , but now I can’t find the video on how to set it up. Please let me know the name of the video. Thanks
Hey Josh, I know that for a mobile detailer the best solution is to refill the water tank directly with filtered water. Sure! But What about if i filter the water in the outflow from the tank just for a final filtered rinse (not through the pressure washer but through a Garden hose flow). Does the passage of the water pumped by simple gravity will be affected by the filter and stop the flow?? 🙄🤔 Have you tried?
Great video! I’ve been looking into these systems, glad you covered them and broke down the costs. Appreciate your videos, always super helpful!
And no I know what a TDS meter is which is super helpful to understand the rest.
Im not sure how it works for those tanks but for my RODI system I have for my reef tank (0 TDS is an ABSOLUTE necessity), the 2 chambers I have (cation and anion) will degrade at different speeds. You need both cation and anion to get 0 TDS. When the combo unit is ready to be refilled it is because one of them is used up and the other is still healthy. But you need to replace the whole thing, wasting the other half. If that makes sense?
With the dual chamber/tank setup, you can replace the one that is spent while the other still has life in it. You shouldn't need to replace both at the same time.
At least that is the way it is on my deionizing setup at home for my reef. Maybe these work differently?
Hey Josh should I be using tap water for chemicals that mix with Water such as P&S Xpress and Carpet Bomber?
Could I just fill up one of my 1 gallon sprayers with PUR water from my fridge(0 TDS) and do a final spray down of the vehicle after rinsing the soap off?
Hey Josh, love your videos! 🤙🏽 How much water/gallons do you go through for each type of vehicle on average?? Thanks in advance!
Super informative! Thanks Josh!
Is it necessary to towel dry after a spot free rinse?
Great videos! Been watching a ton! Quick random question, do you know if the hose reel you have will support a 1/4” hose vs a 3/8” hose? Wanting to get one and use either the uberflex of the revzilla but can’t seem to find an answer. Thanks!
Btw check out Cars with Keavs channel, he's gone over some awesome stuff and solutions more in the DIY realm and he recently finalized his budget wash cart, it'd be cool to see your thoughts and approach to a dedicated wash cart to compare and contrast with.
He's also mentioned that he's aware of your channel and a fan so it'd be awesome to see you guys do something together or even just bounce ideas and approaches to things off one another.
Great video Josh!
Thanks for the info Josh!, very interesting, greetings from México. :-*
I have a question…since I have a softener, is there is any benefit running soft water verses plain tap water through these systems?
Hey Josh I bought that pressure washer hose reel you recommended, before I head to the store tomorrow can you tell me what nipple fitting works for a normal m22 hose?
what about a pre filter sediment filter and carbon filter ie RO system before the water hits the DI tank. I can get 10,000 Gallons from my setup total cost for me was about 900 dollars
I wonder if running a couple 2.5"x10" sediment filters before the DI tank will extend the life of the resin. I live in Vegas, and our TDS is 400+. The On-The-Go website says the Dual Bed Standard at 400 ppm would yield 315 gallons.
Great informative video !
CR Spotless is definitely more well known, but wow the other systems seem far more cost effective.
Josh check out Suds and Go ,Brice has has the best system for Mobile detailers.
You could install His R .O system on your wall to save money on bottles.
Thanks for the shout 🤙
i think theres a way to lower your tds before going to your deionizer so you can have more spotless water.
I did the numbers for puretec; replacing the tank twice a year with monthly rental is about $300, divided by 3000(200ppm) will yield a .10 cents per gallon expense....the cheapest/easiest method.
Yep I agree!
Hey Josh there’s another DI system called no spots pro. Just heard about it. Wonder if you can do a review on it thank you
@imjoshv Could you share the model number and Meg rating of the Resilite sensor? I have the one that measures 1 Meg, but curious if yours is the same...
What is the name of the company you rent the tank from? I detail cars here in sd and im looking to get one myself
What you recommend if the tap water was 71 ppm?
Do you have a video for bug removal like PNS bug off?
Great video
I think the numbers may not be all that they seem. CR rates their usage for staying at 0ppm. I think the on the go system is up to 10ppm or even higher for their rating. Have you checked?
Cat ion, and an ion. One tank is pulling positively charged particles out and the other is pulling the negativity charged particles out, giving you deionized water. Thumbs baby let’s go!
Yooo Josh, I'm mobile only, I just purchased the On the Go System. How do you set up your mobile set up. As far as the tank to a pump to the filter? And what pump should I get to pull the water from tha tank but still filter water from the filter without having to much GPM suction?
What did you end up going with? I was thinking about just filling my tank with the DI water at home.
Thanks for the video. FYI, it's pronounced "cat-ion" and "an-ion"
You know when the active 2 reveal coming to the market to buy??
If you dont live in California you wont have access to Puretec's services.. I live in Texas now and the water companies here charge hundreds of dollars for tank exchanges.. I wish puretec would expand
The #1 thing I'd like to know is do you run your deionizer through the pressure washer at high pressure?
I built an entry level set up in my garage and I've been turning the pressure washer off and using the low pressure passthrough when doing the final spot free rinse.
I do this under an assumption that had from self serve car wash bays. Every setting in a car wash bay is high pressure except for the spot free rinse. I am assuming that the filters can't handle the throughput. However after looking at my deionizer's specs and my pressure washer's specs I think the GPM on the washer's intake is within limits of the filter. So perhaps I can run it at high pressure?
Watch suds n go video you will get rid of those rental tanks. Game changer!!!
Huh. Cr systems website says the average TDS in my zip code is 89ppm. I wonder if a reverse osmosis would cover me completely.
Is there a link for Pure Tech?
We have 27 in Oregon
Adams doesn't manufacturer that deionizer and the actual manufacturer won't let Adams discount beyond a set MAP. This is probably why the code stopped working once they realized that happened. They had this system listed as a door buster for their Black Friday sale but when I went to buy it in person, they said the door buster price only applied to the resin even though the picture was of the actual unit itself. :(
Thanks
Can u try out nicksprofessionalsupplies color snow foam?🥺
What company is the DI TANK that you have
Its a rental service from a company called PureTec
I probably would have bought the adams if their coupon worked
Why you sellin' the boat homie? That's a big part of the typical American dream right? I'll give you tree fiddy.
cation is prononced cat-eye-on..and anion is an-eye-on...
Far too many people have an issue with TDS.
They need serious help.
Damn this expensive but im tryna be the best which requires deionized water
It's pronounced... Cat-i-on and an-i-on
Thanks professor...
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0-9 ppm will definitely give you a spot free wash to be factual. It mustn't be on ZERO to do the job tho
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Why are there s many stupid commercial interruptions in this short video??