Samsung To Ever Get Dolby Vision, Actual Benefits of 10K Nits? | You Asked Ep. 22
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- On today's episode of You Asked: Will Samsung TVs ever feature Dolby Vision? Do we really need 10,000 nits of brightness? When will we see the next Sony OLED TV? What's up with Panasonic's new TV with Amazon Fire TV?
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03:01 Why Does LG Need Such Bright Displays?
04:09 Will Hisense U8N Use ADS Pro Panels?
04:51 Why Do We Need 10,000 Nits of Brightness?
06:16 Will There Be Significant 10,000 Nits Mastered Content?
06:44 Will Samsung TVs Ever Feature Dolby Vision?
07:30 Is Sony Done with OLED TVs?
08:44 Can You View LG's Signature OLED T from the Rear?
09:08 What Can We Expect from Panasonic Teaming Up with Amazon Fire TV?
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There isn’t enough HDR 10+ content out there that’s why I want Dolby vision
Dolby Vision basically won the HDR content war. So Samsung is shooting themselves in the foot with this one.
Eventually they will realize this and bring Dolby Vision to their TV.
In the meantime, if you're shopping for a TV. Get an LG instead, until Samsung figure their shit out and implement Dolby Vision
@@mancerrss "Dolby Vision basically won the HDR content war."
Until there's an announcement made by Samsung confirming that, you're basically talking gibberish and no your opinion is not the final say on anything so do shut up.
@mancerrss went samsung and no regrets, couldn't give a shit about Dolby. Hdr 10 does me fine. Most people don't give a shit about Dolby or hdr 10, just the few who are obsessed with tvs. I got the s90c and personally think it's a fantastic tv.
@@paulmidgley8040
Agreed. You can never go wrong with Samsung. Personally I think these trolls that call Samsung TVs garbage and unreliable are actually unhappy with their own TVs because they picked a different brand and crapping on Samsung is the only way they can make themselves feel better about dumping their entire stimulus on a bad TV.
@johnnybravado7141 I've always gone samsung and when I have strayed and bought something else I've always regretted it. I can certainly live without DV.
Great video as usual. Do you know if any of the new Hisense TVs will bump up to 10-bit panels? They have been using the 8-bit FRC so far. Thanks!
Great Q & A as always,. Learning something new every time, very interesting and informative.
Panasonic's In-house TV OS does NOT suck. It is very smooth and stable and looks extremely clean. But it is very bare in terms of apps. But if you're not into steaming apps, or may have an Apple TV, you can't go wrong with Panasonic. The interface is very straightforward.
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Nice jacket!!
Awesome coverage. Rest well when you can !
Lol, regarding the Panasnoic TV, over here in the UK, we have this guy Vincent Teoh. He actually shipped a TV to the UK from US Best Buy ( I cant rememberthe brand or model), and it cost more for shipping than the TV did, but he did get to review it.
In Australia, the Sony website is showing that the A95L 77 inch is discontinued! My one is faulty and it had 6 flashing red lights of death and no longer works after only having it for 3 weeks. Still waiting almost 2 months to get it replaced no stock anywhere 😢! Not sure if I should get my money back or wait for a replacement or even wait for the G4
Really great questions and answers!! This series is always fun. Great job!
nice nice, keepem coming.
Hello! Thank you so much for your content! This may be unrelated to this video but I've been extremely torn in deciding whether to purchase a Sony A95k or A95L TV. I do recall you loving the A95K due to it's accuracy (which I am on par with you on that), but was curious to see what you had to say about the differences. Thank you!!
To the question @ 08:44 Can You View LG's Signature OLED T from the Rear?
I think he meant something else ...
If you watch from the "other side", can you turn the picture?
Does the TV offer a "setting" letting you choose from which side you're watching?
PS: I guess, TV, games or movies probably not, because it will need the black background on both sides!
But turning the picture while in transparent mode (without background) would be "nice to have".
Samsung implementing dolby vision into thier tvs is like Sony having 4 hdmi 2.1 ports into their tvs...
Haha both companies piss me off so much for those reasons. Makes their TVs complete non-players for me. LG is the only reasonable company right now, when it comes to supporting all the latest and greatest tech features.
@@mattspeer01 Samsung don't need Dolby vision obviously, when their TV perform better than those with Dolby vision lol.. Nothing to get pissed off about..Just get some other TV..Only people who dont know about TV focus on dolby vision
@@MK-ii2qb not true at all. Samsung never wins the TV of the Year award, it’s always Sony or Panasonic. Sony may use Samsung’s QD OLED panel but then they add in Dolby Vision support, plus their superior processing and build quality, and win the majority of the awards last year for the A95L.
I don't know about awards, but most review websites for tv pick samsung as one of their best tv, if not the best. Actually, for OLED, most acclaimed tv review websites pick samsung S90C as their best Oled TV of all time so far for the price, picture quality, and overall value
@@MK-ii2qb "Most review websites" lmao... Rtings the best review site puts Sony and LG above samsung...
Hi Caleb, great coverage as always! Did you have a chance to check out NVIDIA’s AI HDR thing? Interested to hear your thoughts on how well it can convert SDR to HDR.
What’s happening with projectors are the still the most cost effective alternative to large screen tv’s? And If so whats the best long throw and short throw technologies!
I forgot today was Sunday.. yes caleb
How important/beneficial is proper ambient light behind a display?
I would imagine its critical in a completely dark room, even though ive never seen behind screen light in a projector theater. But what about a low light room or even lit room?
Thanks for the little bit about Qled we're not just interested in OLed
Will you be sure to include at least one Best Buy affiliate link in every video description? Thanks!
Hi, Caleb ik you weren't able to get to my question or maybe it wasn't completely relevant since you mainly covered the TVs but I was still curious if you knew much info on the prototype for the Galaxy Buds with the Oled screen on it Boredatwork did a quick short on it but not very informative on info soo I was just seeing if you had a chance yourself to check things out on it?
Best Test Chanel ever! I enjoy every Single video. Thanks for your work guys!!
(Bester Kanal für Tests bezüglich TV's, neben Vincent 😉)
Yo Caleb Mr. CES😊 Samsung OLEDS QD are still good without DV. 😊
Hello and thanks for great content. Question: 77” Sony a90L vs Samsung S90C in a man cave with no windows mostly used for PS5 gaming and streaming? They are the same price.
Dolby flex connect?
Hey Caleb, speaking about nits and brightness, is there a measurement of how bright the real world in a sunny day can get? 20k nits? Just for reference. Maybe that would help to understand how much is enough. Cheers, thank you for the lovely content you provide. ❤
Much higher than that.., more like 100k nits
I never thought it was that high😅. makes sense then, manufacturers keep pushing nit every year. Thanks
What is the best Operating system for tv's ? I see every manufacturer pretty much has it's own . Should i consider tv's like hisense with their vidaa os or lg with their web os when there are tv's with android ?
I prefer android just because of the usual openness you get with it. Other tv OSs are proprietary and you can't do much with them
Technically we do have 10k nits content, we have HDR games, a lot of them already allows you to put the slider up to 10knits and the ones that don't probably can be patched up by the developers or modded by the community.
Invest in sun glasses for your next trip to CES we won’t mind.
when will they return 3d to tv?
I would have gladly paid Samsung a handsome sum for DV support on my S95C. In the end I spent about 200 bucks to get DV through a HDFury Arcana, plus some more for the corresponding Apple TV 4K. I wouldn't even mind if it was a DLC and they vastly overcharge. And I'm sure others who decide to buy a more expensive LG or Sony just because of DV would too.
So I was wondering if anyone could answer. I thought anything QD Oled were the best looking TVs on the market. Why are they releasing all the other types of TVs when any type of Oled will beat them out????
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I bought eveyr HDR 10+ UHD Blu Rays and I love the format! I wish more studios would use the format than just Universal and European labels!
Agree.
Said it before, if Samsung don't want to offer Dolby Vision support by default on their TVs then they should offer an avenue to purchase a License through the Tizen OS and activate the feature on the TV.
Im pretty sure it requires a hardware feature which is what requires the licensing fee. I dont think firmware or software alone can "unlock" Dolby Vision, otherwise any HDR display in theory would be able to display DV which is not the case
@@joshpearson4256 "It was originally widely assumed that Dolby Vision hardware (screens and Ultra HD Blu-ray players) needed to carry a dedicated chip. However, it is now possible to add Dolby Vision support via a firmware update to devices with sufficiently powerful processors."
I can't even locate a reputable seller to buy the 77" Sony A95L from. They're flying off the shelves faster than they can be stocked. Why would Sony release a successor now?
Their flagship models are usually on a 2 year cycle anyway.
In Australia, the Sony website is showing that the A95L 77 inch is discontinued! My one is faulty and it had 6 flashing red lights of death and no longer works after only having it for 3 weeks😢. Still waiting almost 2 months to get it replaced.
3:08
This is wrong. The point of HDR is to remove the display from the experience, to feel like you're really there looking at the scene with your own eyes. From time to time this is going to require an APL that is far higher than what is standard for an SDR display.
For example, when I load up Europa in Destiny 2, the entire map is made of ice and snow. More than 50% of the display is showing 1000 nits of brightness, as it SHOULD.
I'll never understand the people that say HDR displays are too bright, even the black surface of the road outside is going to be brighter than some SDR displays. Anything in direct sunlight will be over 500 nits which is going to provide quite the APL.
Higher brightness levels will also cause our pupils to dilate, making dim pixel look even dimmer by contrast (haha) to the super bright pixels.
The 10,000 number for dolby vision comes from the ST2084 gamma curve, which is also used in the HDR10 standard. I'm so excited we're finally here.
5:35
No, tonemapping is bad and should be avoided as much as possible. I say this as someone who is currently crying that tonemapping on most HDR monitors doesn't work consistently when connected to a Windows PC. Tonemapping is only good when ABL brings the panel brightness below the detail threshold of a scene, or when the panel was already incapable of hitting said detail threshold. Examples of good tonemapping use cases are 4000 nit movies on a 1000 nit display, or when 50% of a scene is at 1000 nits and the display can only do 650 nits at that screen space.
6:16
Video games. Video games have been at 10,000 nits for 6 years. Not all of them sure, but some still push way up there. Monster Hunter World is at 6500 nits, Forza games are at 10,000 nits, Gears 5 is at 10,000 nits, etc.
Is it risky to buy TV now knowing I won’t use it for 5 months? Want to take advantage of low prices. Can’t use it for 5 months until I move into new house. It will sit in storage unit.
Samsung not having Dolby Vision is a little disappointing since nearly every popular streaming service supports them. If LG had better anti-glare that's not over a thousand dollars I'll be leaning more towards them.
Most people don't care about Dolby vision and I reckon nobody could tell the difference. Dv is completely irrelevant.
@@paulmidgley8040 I think people spending more than $1k on a TV absolutely care about DV
Aren’t most discs HDR10 anyway? Not all discs are DV encoded and they’re just fine. Plus, to my eyes anyway, DV seems a little dark so I prefer not to have it. Mind you, it’d be nice if Samsung gave us at least a choice 🤷🏽♂️
It is because your TV is not bright enough. Aka DV has higher variance in brightnes.
@@haukionkannel good point. I’m not sure my LG CX is up to interpreting. HDR as, say an LED tele.
I would most definitely make the content first, then I could remaster and sell it again later at the higher nit.
Just curious and this is a question in many ways - why aren't more TVs using IPS panels with local dimming? IPS has less contrast but won't local dimming fix that like it does for ADS and VA panels? ADS is sort of IPS in a way but reserved for higher-end models. Why do VAs with LD even exist?
I always wonder why they don't use IPS instead of VA myself.
It's not like IPS is not any more expensive that VA.
Native contrast still plays a significant role in PQ with ADS panel televisions with a high number of dimming zones and even with VA panel televisions for that matter.
@@johnb4905 Vincent Teoh reviewed the 65 inch X95L which is not available in the US and I believe he said native contrast is irrelevant once local dimming comes in because it pushes it from low levels (2000? Iirc) to over 100,000. I suspect that would be the case for IPS panels but I could be wrong. If IPS panels work with local dimming, it’s crazy that we’d use VA panels with their horrible viewing angles and lesser color accuracy.
LG uses IPS with local dimming but they never get good reviews or achieve deep darks. It’s strange. I think ADS is the compromise where local dimming works and you get good viewing angles.
Can't u just import the Panasonic and test it for the Channel?
That shouldn't be that difficult
It can be difficult and expensive. If you want coverage of Panasonic you should follow HDTVtest. Maybe there is other channels from a country in Europe or Asia that covers it too
He already told us why he can't.
About the Samsung Dolby Vision topic...man i dont know i cant stop thinking that everybody is asking for DV in Samsung tvs but they dont do it, literally the best tvs (by ratings not choice) im sure they dont wanna loose people MONEY makes me think they have to know something we dont maybe that technology will get better in time
they support Dolby Atmos i don't see the issue, HDR10+ is not as popular as DV its not supported as well in physical media.
Doesn't sony support 10k nits on their ps5?
I tried a TCL HDR, and I found the HDR to bright.
I had to return it. But that was for other problems, not the HDR. like it being advertised as 1080, but it was 720.
CES it seem like it was nothing but AI this year, nothing really exciting at Sony didn’t show up again. Sam announced Doe B vision LG it’s a hit and miss like what’s going on. Will this show even be around like E3 pretty soon?
I feel the same for the most part but I am impressed by Samsung's new Mini-LED at larger sizes, and their new super res upscaling A.I.
@@asole2847 me to but the only thing is Samsung does not support Dobie vision. I prefer to have LG or Sony where they support all the platforms. Dolby vision is great. Specially, with video games.
Will we see QD-OLED & MLA on the same panel?
If seems those are competing at the moment, but having both could boost OLED brightness quite significantly.
Someone else covered this and said it wouldn’t provide any benefit due to the technology differences.
I believe he answered this last time. No. They're from competitors and also work in completely different ways.
Honestly, I think samsung not having airplay is a bigger issue for me
"there have been some headlines put out there by some people, who I respect, cuz they're gonna get clicks, that suggest that Sony is ditching OLED..."
Just say it was @ stopthefomo saying that. Juuuust say it, c'mon 😉
Literally no one is able to tell the difference between DV and HDR10 because no content has eve taken full advantage of DV to make a noticable difference.
Sony is smart unlike Samsung Sony is cooking a new oled for longer than a year
LOL OLED is already yesterday's news. It's already proven to have a short life due to burn in much like your brain cells due to burn up from crack.
Can dolby vision support 50k-100k nits?
why? that's eye burning bright . a perfect black to 1000Nits is a greater range than hollywood cameras can record ot your eye can handle at same time ( if full 1000 screen nits ) ie imagine a a chess board white square with patterns at 1000NITS 50% of screen , Pure black squares with very dark pattern a 0.5-2 nits - you could see the white pattern and then you would have to focus very hard to see the black pattern - you could not see both at same time . 4000Nits , 10000Nits is there for headroom and very cool HDR specular highlights that won't impinge your vision. As Caleb said blacks are not black in a bright room . 0-1000Nits is a greater dynamic range , than 5Nits in a bright room to 10000Nits , Increased NITS should also improve colour volume ( could be wrong ). OQ-OLED has greater NITs in primary colours , nowhere close to 1000Nits yet pure . however QD-OLEDS have some black crush I believe hampering dynamic range
@@nimblegoat I mean because why not once 10k nits sustained 100% window is achievable I can only imagine the industry will go for brighter than 10k nits or Dolby himself might still be alive to adjust that when the time comes eventually
@@BIGBASSSAMA_4 I could see it possible as and addon to 10000Nits- if used wisely eg most of the movie in the 10K range . Then spectacular effects allowed to go higher . But I think the effect is then the entertainment , Imagine seeing a 50K Nit full colour lightning bolts on a a big screen - it would be like the flash in real life lighting up all the ground ( ie your room ) or fireworks at full nit colour . Yes it would be dramatically impressive. I think having overhead helps. Eg 8K can make 4K look better for edges etc . An 8K OLED with give so much control in dark areas for 4k - instead of 1 pixel on or off , you have 4 - 4 off , 3 of 4 off , 2 of fall off 1 of 4 off , plus the placement of the off ones .
Again such a TV would be cutting edge , power bill will be higher etc , only 1% of consumers would have it . That's why even a basic C4 83" would be good for someone like me - Works on 99% of the classic movies I love in a dark room .
Plus a 1000NIT lightning bolt works well , your brain pumps it up , but definitely not the same visceral effect . You can't really beat a good subwoofer for the affect on your whole body , no matter how you pump the volume to your main speakers . So I can see some people love NITs . people grossly underestimate sound for immersion in movies and video games
Thank you for covering the 10k nits. People also don't realize many video games are mastered at 10k nits, not just movies. There is a reality to brightness. Our sun is bright and that light intensity brings more color and contrast to real life. As we get closer to that threshold, our brain will start to conceive that TV as "real" and you'll start to feel it. I've heard many people talk about seeing a 10k nit panel and feeling a warmth when they see it
The obsession with Dolby vision is absolutely wild and downright laughable. I have a Lg and Samsung Oled and the differences in picture quality is barely noticeable. Also I pick the Samsung all day if I could keep just 1 of them
Sammy will implement Dolby Vision eventually when their market share starts to fall.
Davis?
Their market share falling won't happen anytime soon!!
@@stephcarlofcSure it will but not because of Dolby Vision but TCL and Hisense.
Samsung’s market share will fall because of their garbage build quality and constantly failing TVs. Their tech is great. Reliability, trash.
@@johnb4905LOL keep dreaming.
Any other tech junkies with a home theater setup (4k 65" TCL, Denon receiver, Nvidia Shield Pro, Kodi, etc.) who laugh at themselves for watching barely SD resolution episodes of Mystery Science Theater and the occasional VHS rip of home movies, etc?😅
Samsung = No Dolby. Everyone with an Apple TV and a large movie library like mine, mine alone 3000 movies purchased, 350 tv shows with more than half Dolby its clear Apple TV lovers who are stuck with Apple because our movie Libraries are approaching the price of a new car would be better catered to by LG and Sony. If Samsung thinks I’ll be tossing my 30,000$ movie library and rebuying all my movies in HDR10 they should probably think again. Samsung = Hard Pass
Samsung = will not lose sleep over your need for a DV fix.
Why on earth would you have to toss your library? Your movies will play just fine in HDR10 without having to repurchase your collection. What a weird take.
@@evilnillaz Well what do you expect? DV bandwaggoners are weird people.
I don't understand this comment. Most of your (precious precious) dolby vision content has Hdr10 metatdata in it so there's no problem there bud.
@@detroid89 agreed and if his TV has good calibration he won't miss Dolby vision not even for a second. Dolby Vision is merely all the calibration already done for you as the filmmaker saw fit. But nobody said you have to watch the movie the way he envisioned it. You bought and paid for that movie so you can see it any vision that works for you. That's the great thing about calibration. You can have it tailored to whatever fits you.
Thanks for calling out those for inferring Sony is abandoning OLED. I expect such shenanigans from FOMO but not Vincent.
A fanboy ready and willing to defend oled to the death...nothing to see here.
@@johnnybravado7141 So troll, you’re saying Sony is abandoning OLED? Good luck with that.
@@johnb4905 Good luck proving that I actually said that. I was merely pointing out that you OLED fanboys are easily triggered and you should do something about that attitude besides cry foul on the internet.
@@johnnybravado7141 The only crying going on here is from you. I was reaffirming what Caleb pointed out. That you refer to me as an OLED fanboy tells me you’re the one that’s overly bias and have an inferiority complex with OLED tech.
@@johnb4905 You're the one doing the crying because I took exception to your "calling out" shenanigans bullshit. None of those guys said anything wrong. You're just triggered because the mere thought of OLED being dropped by the big companies makes you feel like you're losing a girlfriend, something you should already be used to by now considering that toxic attitude of yours.
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I thought it was funny how TCL showed off a bigger microled TV then Samsung 😂
More size does not necessarily equal more quality.
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Sony is behind on OLED technology and will always be one year behind Samsung and LG!
Personally, I see no difference when comparing DV and HDR10+ using the same program material and settings. Going against plain HDR10, there is a visible difference.
Can't you just quick share dobly vision? 😂😂😂😂😂
I will never get a Samsung TV until they offer amd support DV,
Samsung always pulls shit like this, for example on their phones everyone wants to use Google assistant and here come samsung with a physical button and new dumb assistant called Bixby what a stupid name but very fitting for their stupid assistant anyways Samsung has these wasteful and nonsense ideas these companies donr get it, we dont want bixby or cortana or Siri, we want Google deal with it. Instead of focusing on the next thing and they are chasing after the ones who already crossed the winning line.
I have been with the Galaxy Family of smartphones from Samsung for 12 years and I'm dumping them for good now, done with Samsung boxing me in and telling me I can only have one, honey I want both or you will be out the door. Even Amazon came to its senses after 5 years of their hdr10 attempt and now Amazon begin supporting Dolby Vision. Its infuriating cause Samsung support Dolby Atmos on their phones why not just freaking pay the fees and shut the hell up I like options I like to choose oh there are HDR10+ or DolbyVision to choose from when playing a movie or series so I can watch it in whatever mode my heart desires.
Samsung beat it with your Bixby nonsense it will NEVER EVER be a thing 😂 keep improving HDR10+ sure but give me Dolby Vision goddamnit, it cost around $3 bucks to license it I will pay you $10 and you can keep the change.
No DV = no Samsung buy for me. I demand superior features for my $ not d00-d00 like HDR10+
Also learn something about calibration and maybe just maybe your opinion might be worth something.
Caleb, I'm so disappointed in you. There were no "blinded by the light" (from that song) jokes is references.
There isn't a person reading this that can tell the difference between Dolby Vision and HDR10+. Samsung not having DV is such a non issue.
Exactly, there been done a study of DV vs HDr10 by Netflix. Until recently HDR10 been actually better due to pixelation of DV and most people in a blind test preferred HDR10 due to pixelation and higher full screen brightness.
We are talking about HDr10 not 10+ even.
Most people aactually doesn’t understand that DV and HDR10+ were made due to TVs at the time were not bright enough. So they needed a method to assign brightness to lower end TVs.
But nowadays most high end TV since last generation gets above 1000 nits which is enough to natively assign colors by TV without need for tone mapping. As most content is still only mastered to 10 bit, DCIP3 (at most REC2020, which Samsung is way ahead of LG) and 1000nits of brightness.
Before movies come out being mastered to higher nits and to higher standard, consumers first need to have user base of TVs that can see more than that.
Samsung won’t pay for the DV fee, as their TV don’t need them. Samsung also been consistently out competing LG on pricing for OLED, by a size step up or competing with price with lower model in Europe. So the cost trickles down.
Finally for last 3 months all movies in AppleTv and Amazon Prime had HDR10+ support.
So you're saying DV doesn't exist and tons of content supports it, nice cope bro. Samsung just being anti-consumer like when they nerfed the S95B brightness with firmware after people bought them. Shills gonna keep giving them a pass tho
@@Roe777 Exactly. Netflix is by far the most popular streaming service and it is pushing Dolby Vision content hard. So is Disney Plus. Here in lies the issue - content in this format is much more prevalent then HDR10+
@@Roe777 When did I say anything you just claimed I said?
What if it’s a Dolby vision 4k Blu-ray? Or Apple movie in Dolby vision?
If we wanted our TVs so bright they mimic real life… wouldn’t we just walk outside into real life? Sounds like they wanna mess up my man cave. The Hisense hurt my eyes just viewing through my old tv. I’ll pass.
If you walk outside you are not going to automatically see a movie take place. Closest thing we have are live plays, and those Dr.Phil kind of shows where we can be in the crowd.
Dolby Vision is a cult. Worshipers of this cult didn't except any critics, they are always wright. And guru of this cult - lg oled - is a master for them.
All that's missing is the Kool-Aid.😂
The main reason people want DV is due to the fact that there is more DV content than there is HDR 10+
No cult member here. With my LG C1 OLED, I can watch DV or HDR10 or HDR10+ but as far as I know, I've only used DolbyVision and HDR10.
Having the choice is nice and DV looks good but it's not a deal breaker.
I like using my PC to watch movies and the player I use doesn't support DV but does support HDR10, HDR10+, so I watch them in that format, which is the same as having a Samsung TV. It looks really good to me and has superior sound to my Firestick because it's in the TV HDMI port, not my AV Rec and is connected to rec with optical cable because eARC doesn't work. I can watch a lot of movies and show with DV with the Firestick but notice a bigger difference having lossless audio, than losing DV.
I can also use my 4k bluray player and get DV and lossless sound. On a Samsung, I wouldn't be able to use the DV. Like I stated earlier, it's nice to have the choice.
@@frommatorav1 Choice. That's what's important. The choice to use DV or not use it. That goes for both the customers and the TV companies. Nobody should be forced to choose anything other than what's available and they should also be free to choose whatever is minimal cost.
@@asole2847 If you have a good TV that has plenty of color and contrast to work with and a good calibrator then you don't need DV. In fact, with all that at your disposal you can pretty much kick the crap out of DV.