Proma is offering 1500 dollars off to 5 people, first come first serve ($3495). Here is the link to the product page of the 55 inch Proma glasses free 3D TV: www.proma3d.com/2183961-2183961_5552847.html You can also transform you iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max into a glasses free 3D iPhone with: 3dfix.company.site
I just picked up a used sony xbr 55x850b for 60$ on fb marketplace. It's 4k, 3d, and was over 3k when new in 2014. Vg248 3d vision monitors are plentiful too.
I had a polarised 3d tv and eye-swap 3d tvs many years ago. The polarized 3d was fantastic. Just had to wear glasses with polarisation of lenses at 90 degrees to each other. The 2D to 3D feature then seems much as described in this video. I am not sure how well the no glasses 3d would work.
Sounds like they used a cheaper Chip set for the 55 inch TV to sell it at a cheaper price tag. PS4 has 3D games like Thrine. Have you tried 2D to 3D conversion for 2D only games that have 3D graphics?
@@Shahaneh I did and it isn’t really that great. I tried with a few like kingdom hearts 3. The 3d effect is barely there sometimes, but the rest of the time it just feels almost faked. They need better conversion technology.
Great video. I think you covered everything that was missing from before. But I have a question: what is this other channel you keep mentioning with 3D videos and how do I get to it?
Its an experimental channel where I post 3D videos. Many of them are me just practicing editing or testing 3D conversion quality of existing videos. It would be great to have feedback though like on the newest one. No one has commented, and its the first video I've filmed and fully edited in 3D taken on the iPhone 15 Pro. th-cam.com/video/bh3UwzmnpJY/w-d-xo.html
All glasses free 3d solutions add very noticeable lag/latency when gaming. Fine for movies but not ideal for gaming. Dlp Projectors are 3d kings of 2024 and back.
I notice the lag, but glasses free 3D at such high resolution still looks and feels amazing. I think it’s worth it and its just gonna keep getting better
Thank you for another great video! At about time stamp 2:10, and the start of the 2D to 3D conversion, you mention Netflix along with TH-cam as sources for conversion. I understand TH-cam 2D/3D conversion and enjoy those along with some other sites. But as i understand it, Netflix video have DRM (Digital Rights Management) protection....in the US for sure. So wondering about this....would love to see conversions of videos from subscriber channels like Netflix and Prime, etc. .....on Leia Lume Pad and other newer 3D products like the TV you are describing. Thank You!!
The 3D looks odd. E.g. at 3:09. Perhaps the distance of your video camera is not correct, so you get the images for the left and right eye at the same video frame? Can you film and upload this in 3D? I have still an 3D OLED TV with passive polarization filters to view it.
Exactly, I filmed it up close to show this difference intentionally otherwise you can’t even tell it apart from a regular 2D TV when filmed from the correct distance 3.5-4 meters back. Up close you end up getting some overlap of the left and right views. As you suggested I’m going to experiment with capturing it in 3D
The 2d to 3d conversion right now on the lume pad 2 is very disappointing, especially with TH-cam content. It warps and distorts unnaturally and inconsistently: it ends up looking like someone took a video and put it on a flexible projector screen and was messing with the screen a bit behind it with their fingers to create the "depth". I think the AI assumes depth is just a z axis distortion map rather than actually recognizing proper foreground and background separation. It also struggles with interpolation between its 3d perspectives. I think ultimately without a second REAL perspective taken by a real second camera, we won't be able to have a good non distracting 3d experience. So in my book, anything with AI 2d to 3d conversion is just a useless gimmick. It's nit high enough quality to be convincing or useful. (The. Again im a 3d tech snob/enthusiast and i won't go watch a movie in 3d if the 3d wasn't made with real 3d camera rigs: in short i hate the fake stuff because it's not quite there yet). As for videogames: I like using reshader to add the depth in. I played cyberpunk this way and it's awesome. If you already have the depth data of a 3d environment you don't need the fake conversion.
I’m disappointed also that the AI real time conversion tech hasn’t been improved further for LeiaTube. Right now it is kind of a mess. The last update made it worse, much less stable.
Is it performing on the fly stereo to multiview conversion, or is it showing the proper, unaltered L/R views from several preset positions for several viewers?
I think its a combination of both. There are multiple zones that allow you to see the 3D image within that specific range, and for each of those zones there are 54 views.
@@JohnDuraSSB I’m not certain, but if 3D starts to get popular again before the console releases, it’s totally possible! If you haven’t seen this video yet check it out, because ACER is already doing this with triple A games on their 3D laptops. Like the 3DS on steroids th-cam.com/video/czwlJGpV2tY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y1hA5bC8BV0xc2R3
Proma is offering 1500 dollars off to 5 people, first come first serve ($3495). Here is the link to the product page of the 55 inch Proma glasses free 3D TV: www.proma3d.com/2183961-2183961_5552847.html
You can also transform you iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max into a glasses free 3D iPhone with: 3dfix.company.site
$5k for another 3DTV or comfortably wearing 3D glasses that I already own. The choice is obvious.
Some of us missed out on 3d TV's so yeah the choice is obvious
I just picked up a used sony xbr 55x850b for 60$ on fb marketplace. It's 4k, 3d, and was over 3k when new in 2014. Vg248 3d vision monitors are plentiful too.
I had a polarised 3d tv and eye-swap 3d tvs many years ago. The polarized 3d was fantastic. Just had to wear glasses with polarisation of lenses at 90 degrees to each other. The 2D to 3D feature then seems much as described in this video. I am not sure how well the no glasses 3d would work.
Sounds like they used a cheaper Chip set for the 55 inch TV to sell it at a cheaper price tag. PS4 has 3D games like Thrine. Have you tried 2D to 3D conversion for 2D only games that have 3D graphics?
@@Shahaneh I did and it isn’t really that great. I tried with a few like kingdom hearts 3. The 3d effect is barely there sometimes, but the rest of the time it just feels almost faked. They need better conversion technology.
Great video. I think you covered everything that was missing from before. But I have a question: what is this other channel you keep mentioning with 3D videos and how do I get to it?
Its an experimental channel where I post 3D videos. Many of them are me just practicing editing or testing 3D conversion quality of existing videos. It would be great to have feedback though like on the newest one. No one has commented, and its the first video I've filmed and fully edited in 3D taken on the iPhone 15 Pro. th-cam.com/video/bh3UwzmnpJY/w-d-xo.html
All glasses free 3d solutions add very noticeable lag/latency when gaming. Fine for movies but not ideal for gaming. Dlp Projectors are 3d kings of 2024 and back.
I notice the lag, but glasses free 3D at such high resolution still looks and feels amazing. I think it’s worth it and its just gonna keep getting better
Thank you for another great video! At about time stamp 2:10, and the start of the 2D to 3D conversion, you mention Netflix along with TH-cam as sources for conversion. I understand TH-cam 2D/3D conversion and enjoy those along with some other sites. But as i understand it, Netflix video have DRM (Digital Rights Management) protection....in the US for sure. So wondering about this....would love to see conversions of videos from subscriber channels like Netflix and Prime, etc. .....on Leia Lume Pad and other newer 3D products like the TV you are describing. Thank You!!
I'm assuming that any signal that can be sent trough an hdmi source can be upscaled to 3D.
It's not passing through another device, so DRM wouldn't even come into play. It can do that to whatever is on screen.
The 3D looks odd. E.g. at 3:09. Perhaps the distance of your video camera is not correct, so you get the images for the left and right eye at the same video frame? Can you film and upload this in 3D? I have still an 3D OLED TV with passive polarization filters to view it.
Exactly, I filmed it up close to show this difference intentionally otherwise you can’t even tell it apart from a regular 2D TV when filmed from the correct distance 3.5-4 meters back. Up close you end up getting some overlap of the left and right views. As you suggested I’m going to experiment with capturing it in 3D
@@josh_3D Great! :) Perhaps you have some time to create stereoscopic videos of all 3D devices in action to see the quality of the 3D optics.
What 3d OLED do you have?
@@MindForgedManacle It's a 4k, LG 55EG920V
@@iseethreedee2317 Wait, that's not a 3D TV is it?
Edit: Oh you meant 3d glasses. I misunderstood.
Have you tested 3DS games emulated via the Citra emulator?
No, but if the emulator can run games in side by side format on a laptop, it can be displayed in 3d on the TV through HDMI mirroring
The 2d to 3d conversion right now on the lume pad 2 is very disappointing, especially with TH-cam content. It warps and distorts unnaturally and inconsistently: it ends up looking like someone took a video and put it on a flexible projector screen and was messing with the screen a bit behind it with their fingers to create the "depth".
I think the AI assumes depth is just a z axis distortion map rather than actually recognizing proper foreground and background separation.
It also struggles with interpolation between its 3d perspectives.
I think ultimately without a second REAL perspective taken by a real second camera, we won't be able to have a good non distracting 3d experience. So in my book, anything with AI 2d to 3d conversion is just a useless gimmick. It's nit high enough quality to be convincing or useful. (The. Again im a 3d tech snob/enthusiast and i won't go watch a movie in 3d if the 3d wasn't made with real 3d camera rigs: in short i hate the fake stuff because it's not quite there yet).
As for videogames: I like using reshader to add the depth in. I played cyberpunk this way and it's awesome. If you already have the depth data of a 3d environment you don't need the fake conversion.
I’m disappointed also that the AI real time conversion tech hasn’t been improved further for LeiaTube. Right now it is kind of a mess. The last update made it worse, much less stable.
Is it performing on the fly stereo to multiview conversion, or is it showing the proper, unaltered L/R views from several preset positions for several viewers?
I think its a combination of both. There are multiple zones that allow you to see the 3D image within that specific range, and for each of those zones there are 54 views.
@@josh_3D 54 wow that’s a lot! so does it appear to move when you move, like looking around an object?
you think ps6 games will be 3d again?
kinda like the 3DS
@@JohnDuraSSB I’m not certain, but if 3D starts to get popular again before the console releases, it’s totally possible! If you haven’t seen this video yet check it out, because ACER is already doing this with triple A games on their 3D laptops. Like the 3DS on steroids th-cam.com/video/czwlJGpV2tY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y1hA5bC8BV0xc2R3