Hey everyone. Really sweated this one. Hope I did ok for you and you find this video helpful. Also, I know those of you into gaming will correctly point out that it seems the G3’s game mode picture preset is dimming the image and for you that might sway you, but also the lack of DV support and supposed burn-in risk of the S95C sways a lot of folks as well. As only a casual gamer, I don’t feel like I want to weigh in too heavily on that aspect, so I’m leaving it for other creators to handle. I’ll just say I’ve had a ton of fun playing just about everything but FPS games on both. Thanks again! And keep those comments coming! Love ‘em!
Essentially your review matches the other reviews I've seen. You can't go wrong with either one. I'm curious to see the Sony A95L compared with them. I've seen some reviews where the A95K was comparing favorably against these guys. Now I'm curious if anyone is going to do a review of the 83" G3 since reviews of the other sizes might not be applicable due to it not having MLA.
Caleb, you are right that you need a reference monitor. But, we all know that the QD-OLEDs just have more color volume. And the problem is we have never had a TV with so much color volume. So we are all used to getting less...it's all we know. So when we look at these and think there is too much red, it may just be that it is supposed to be there and we never knew it. The LG looks closer to what we know, and therefore perhaps more "correct" for now.
@@sunshinecycling I considered this possibility, so I tested for it; and it isn’t a color volume factor. The set needs color calibration, even if using Filmmaker Mode, for the reds to display correctly. This is apparent by how reds look in SDR content, where color volume isn’t a factor.
@@sunshinecycling But yeah, that was my first thought as well. And what you say is still true. I just mean that my issue with the reds in particular isn’t tied to this phenomenon
At the end of the day, let's just be grateful that the competition is so intense this year that it's brought us to this point in display technology. You really can't go wrong with either one! Thanks, as always, Caleb!
you're hands down the best reviewer as you keep things realistic and dont get lost in the numbers. Whilst i appreciate Vincent's obsession with the numbers, he often lacks a real world interpretation (i.e what do those numbers actually mean in practice).
I have a Samsung 65-inch Class QLED Q90T that I got in 2020. It still blows most my friends away. Caleb: how much better are these new TVs in terms of everyday viewing? Back when I bought the Samsung, the brightness over OLEDs in 2020 is what swayed me, but it seems that isn't an issue anymore.
Well Oleds in general are almost embarrassingly better than any Qled. Like it’s chalk and cheese. You then go QD or MLA? It’s like really bad. “Stop hitting him! He’s alreadyyy deaddddd.” Lol
@@alexseto2084 Thanks for the input! Can you give me a little detail on why the G3 is so much better? Sharper, better off angle viewing, contrast, etc.? When I upgraded to the Samsung I had a 10 year old Sony Bravia LED. It was clear that that the Samsung was WAY better. But with the Q90T, it's hard for me to imagine a new TV *blowing it away* lol
@AllGoodThingsNetwork for one, it has way way less Input lag overall, plus almost zero pixel response time, everything feels much more fluid, its much sharper too, but for me, its the depth of the contrast, with pure blacks and dazzling brights from these newer oleds, it makes the qled tvs look washed out in comparison
You get extra points for recognizing and being sensitive to the idea that your audience members are not all high tech types. A bunch of us are just looking for the latest really good screen, no matter what they did inside to make it that way. And YES, the Remote IS important! I want to be sure the volume/mute protocol is the standard 'Muted until Volume Up or Mute button is pressed'. I prefer AA batteries, as I think they last longer than AAA.
Another differentiator that tipped in favor of the S95C for me that I'm surprised no one seems to be mentioning in these reviews is NATIVE Philips Hue integration via an exclusive partnership and app that was rolled out earlier this year for TVs made in the last year or so going forward (including the S95C). No it's not free and the license is non-transferrable, but it can replace their physical (and outdated) HDMI sync box which removes a link in the chain between my devices and does native surround light syncing in a defined entertainment area once paired with a Hue Light Control Bridge. For someone like me heavily invested in their light ecosystem, this was a big win. The separate OneConnect Box too is amazing for cabling and 4K 120Hz VRR Gaming on PS5 is next level. Loving this TV overall; keep up the great work Caleb!
If software support matters, my understanding is that LG has already pushed out an update to improve/fix the ABL performance and also created one for the G2/C2 models. That's encouraging and seems to be contrasted by last year's update by Samsung that reportedly lowered their brightness. And yet ratings says that the G3 is (slightly) less prone to burn in. A television this expensive should last you a while, and a 5 yr warranty says LG is confident rhat the G3 will.
I will never buy an LG Oled again, i had to send my G2 back because of the banding, uniformity and pink tint issues. I spent many nights in the LG forums and i will never get that time back.
@@Michael.Talbot lol..Im done with Samsung..I guess samsung is trying to redeem themselves after the old Bait and switch games they played for the last 5years. Next time go with the C series of lg oled tvs..I have no loyalty to these companies..I just to with what's good at the time
@@LOGICAL-JAY I am done with Oled TVs period and i will never buy one again. I wish i went with the S95B tbh because i hear that they do not have those problems but you live and learn i guess.
Seems like these have gotten so good that there really isn’t a better choice…it’s just a small series of trade offs that is going to differ person to person.
Thanks for another great video presentation! We have the exact feelings on these two premium TVs! I liked and shared this video on many Facebook groups and A/V Forums.
Good to know that these are so close. With that said, I’ll probably go with the G3 for the 5 year warranty against burn-in. I’m replacing a 5 year old LG B7 with some serious burn-in from firestick icons that started at the 3 year mark, so burn-in is a real concern for me.
I’ve been debating between these 2 TV’s since the beginning of the year and eventually purchased the Samsung, but if I woke up next morning and my Samsung magically turned into a g3. I wouldn’t even complain and just stick with that. It’s like trying to split hairs pointing out the differences between them and for that I’m grateful for the variety. You’re not missing out on anything, regardless of which one you pick
This video is an excellent example of why specs on a sheet are not the be all and end all…..it’s what the companies do with those specs that count. Last year I bought a Panasonic LZ2000 (U.K. based). The final two TVs on my list were the Panasonic and the Sony A95K which I was lucky enough to view side by side in a dark room. Although everyone would suggest that spec wise the Sony was the far superior TV, in reality it didn’t turn out that way. In some instances the Sony looked better, and other times, the Panasonic looked better. The bottom line was that the differences were so small but the price premium of the Sony (at the time) was so significant, it turned out to be a no contest…..I went with the Panasonic. I have to say that after owning the TV now for 9 months I love the set more now than the day I bought it….it’s a fantastic TV. What you see with your eyes…counts more than the spec sheet.
I got the G3 a couple of weeks ago and are very pleased with the overall picture, especially the amazing brightness from MLA. Looks amazing with the flush wall mount.
Although I don’t have a bright window opposite the TV, I do have windows at each end of the room. The G3 is amazingly bright, I have actually turned down the brightness slightly. The new MLA and anti reflection screen work very well. I don’t see any reflections as was a problem on previous models. I have heard criticism about the sound quality, Mine is connected to Sonos Arc, 2 Era 300’s and Gen 2 Sub, so can’t really comment. To summarise I would think this TV would be ideal in a bright room, looks amazing on the flush wall mount. Upscaling Is excellent and UHD content from Netflix, Apple TV, SkyQ, Blu-ray etc looks amazing. One thing I hope gets fixed soon is the dark Dolby Vision when viewed in Filmmaker Mode. Worth the money in my opinion, hope this helps.
I've just bought the 77" G3, which is being delivered next week. I'm beyond excited as it's my first new TV for about 15 years (I'm used to a 40" Samsung LCD!).
Just the major increase in immersion that you'll gain when watching widescreen, Panavision types of films, by moving up from your old 40 inch LCD to a 77 inch OLED (not to mention the huge increase in black level quality you'll get with OLED), will be making you say WOW to yourself, very often, during the first 3 or 4 months that you watch your new panel, or even for quite a longer period of time than that!!!
If you had a plasma you would be very disappointed in the G3. I bought a 77” oled. It was HORRIBLE!! A dim dark mess. I’d love a bigger screen but I’m not going to spend almost 4k on a tv that only looks good in complete darkness.
Good stuff, Caleb! The whole Dolby Vision stubbornness from Samsung was my big concern with the S95C. But if a TV reviewer doesn't see enough of a difference to make the lack of that feature a deal breaker, then I will absolutely not notice. Before this video, the race for me was between the G3 and A95L. But you just put S95C back on the board. Now we just wait for the fashionably late Sony, to make that final buying decision.
This is the argument I've been trying to make for quite some time with DV. Glad to see more influencers on YT spreading the word that DV's usefulness is HIGHLY dependent upon the type of TV that it's going into. It certainly isn't the must-have feature that so many people have convinced themselves it is.
Finally! DV essentially is "dumbing down" the image into something your TV can handle. That's why it always looked so good on the old LG OLEDs that had a peak brightness of 500 nits. Anything above that was blown out in HDR10. So obviously DV looks way better. But the better the TV gets, the less of an effect DV has. And it seems like we're finally getting to that point
Still don’t care, Dolby Vision gaming looks different than HDR10 gaming because it implements DTM from the console level when gaming with an Xbox. No Dolby Vision, no buy. Sammy needs to bite the bullet and support it, because there are many people who want QD-OLED that supports not just Dolby Vision, but also HDR10+.
So much ignorance in these comments. DV is superior in every way to standard HDR due to its specs. You, and samsung, are betting that content creators will continue to put out garbage implementations of DV in the future, allowing you to ignore it. I argue you are going to lose this bet, as more recent content has shown, but you do you.
Well, we didn’t really need a new TV, but we bought one anyway this week. Before I watched all or nearly all of Caleb’s reviews on the Samsung & LG comparisons, plus other reviews on the same. We’ve always had very good luck with Samsung, so we bought the Samsung S95C in 65” as that was the largest I could reasonably fit in our TV snug that has a nice fireplace and is a very comfortable room. We’ve had super bad luck with some LG products and repairmen did too, so we’ve tended to view LG with a jaundice eye. We added the top soundbar configuration in 7.1 as the room (16’X 22’) is just too small for 11.1, IMO. It will be delivered today and setup tonight. Admittedly, I’m not yet too old (80) to be excited! Thanks Caleb! Much appreciated.
I ended up getting the G3, before most of the S95C reviews came in. I was getting the sense these are going to be neck-and-neck and I'm glad I wasn't wrong. For me the G3 won mainly because of the no-gap mount in the box. I was always going to hang the TV, and it didn't make sense to get one for which I'd have to buy a bracket, when the G3 already came with one. I haven't upgraded my TV in 15 years, so it was definitely a noticeable upgrade for me :)
what calibration...))) After buying a TV, it must be fully repaired!!! purchase of lg g3 stand $200, audio system another $800, calibration another $700... the TV itself lg g3 77) $5000.... It's better PANASONIC ML2000 MLA Calibrated every tv. individually, audio system bar below the TV. and there is a stand. This is a prestigious extra class super TV. not lg shit, not done, not done. unregulated...LG is a pile of shit! and if you want economy... buy two TVs for one Panasonic. samsung for that price.
I'm more of a Samsung guy. That said, objectively it appears there are more possible knocks on the S95C and the G3 is the safer bet. You have highlighted that the differences are negligible. I personally don't feel that the lack of DV is a deal breaker from my experience but I have an QN90A QLED for specific reasons. At the moment, I'm leaning to save for the upcoming Sony A95L but this review is intriguing nonetheless. Thank you Caleb for sweating this one out. One would assume you'd be jaded by now but it's refreshing to see you still care enough to stress over this like a regular consumer would. That empathic energy keeps me watching. Best
I played around with both of them. LG G3 was the winner for me but not by much. The input lag, gaming mode, picture quality was a hair better and the fact that it supports Dolby Vision makes it the clear winner.
@@NorthShoreDrama right, I think with calibration the G3 is a great tv, plus you don't have to worry about have the tv bent from shipping... also another review mention that you don't have an input/source button on the samsung remote 😑
I think I would pay even slightly more for the LG just to have some reassurance that the TV will last longer. In the end, even if you upgrade to a new TV, the old one probably will be given to a lesser role in a second room or used for something else, and the longevity still matters. Spending this much money always means you should care about longevity.
I like your honesty. I looked at both TVs before I decided to go with the S95C and you are right. Both offered an amazing picture, but to my eyes the Samsung won. I think when you’re spending the kind of money you have to spend to own one of those TVs, you have to buy what you like, period. Some people are going to like the LG, and some the Samsung!
I use a Philips HDMI Sync Box and the built-in support for Philips HDMI light sync on the Samsung makes me lean toward the S95C. The HDMI sync makes a world of difference in TV immersion imo, and getting that without the current constraints of the separate Sync Box (no HDMI 2.1 output, no video mode switching based on HDMI input) would be perfect.
Thanks for commenting this bro! Didn’t know Samsung TV’s had that feature! I use Philips Hue Gradient Light Strip on my current LG OLED. I’m sold on that Samsung feature alone! Ditching LG and my Philips Sync Box and going with the S95C 1000%!
I was flip-flopping between both TVs but finally took the plunge on the G3 because I knew I was wall mounting and Richer Sounds (in the UK) had a £500 cashback offer. When things are this close it was always going to be a minor thing that did it in the end.
Great review, although I'm sitting here wondering if any of the TV manufactures will soon release a TV that has the benefits of both QD-OLED and MLA. Do you think it's possible or just far to costly?
I've been watching your reviews on these two tv's now since they were first brought to the channel. I made the decision this weekend to just go for it and get the S95C. What was my deciding factor, something as simple as where I'm going to put my TV. I'm not hanging it, but putting it on a stand. S95C comes with one, and G3 doesn't. With them being about the same price, PLUS having to buy a stand for the G3, was the choice for me. Plus, I already have a Samsung TV with a 1 Connect box, so changing over to a new one will be easy. My S95C is scheduled to be delivered on Friday and I can't wait!!!
I thought the reason Dolby Vision support is a big deal is because most HDR content only supports one standard or the other, so you're just able to see more stuff in HDR if you support all the standards. Not because of one standard being drastically better than the other.
tvs that don’t support dv will fallback to hdr10 when playing dv content. still hdr, but without dynamic metadata. the better the tv the less that even matters.
Everything supports HDR10.. DV has a mandatory HDR10 compatibility.. Essentially if your TV is capable of 1000nits (like S95c).. you are good to go. Everything in HDR is going to look as good as it should regardless of the Codec.
This channel (gentleman) is SO vital if you need information (accurate) without brand shilling or putting you to sleep with too much tech babble really for the hardcore enthusiast. I have my little 48" LG CX which still serves it purpose but watching this I begin to wonder, "is it time to upgrade?" Lol kidding! Great video none the less.
Dolby Vision is different from TV to TV. It is trying to help your tv show the best image it can. So lesser quality tvs get a giant boost from DV. But the better the tv gets the less of an effect DV has. So if you loved DV on an older tv.. that does not mean DV is going to be the same.. or even make a difference on these newer tvs. There is a clear misunderstanding of what DV actually does. And if DV is a deal breaker for you then you dont really understand how it works.
Caleb said at the end he would need to flip a coin to decide which one to buy to bring home. This shows how close these two TVs are. Like the competition.
The toughest decision I've ever made! The S95C 77" (3,099€) and G3 77" (3,299€) were both on Black Friday sale. Coming from an LG CX 65", this choice had to be just right. Since movies are my main priority and gaming is non-existent, I ultimately went with the LG G3. However, the S95C had me contemplating for a while, especially with its one-connect box. With a 5-year warranty from LG and a fantastic movie picture, I believe the G3 will be the perfect choice for me.
I think is a personal decision,I pick the G3 because looks more natural to my eyes, QD image is a great but I don’t know, bit more artificial ? Like I said is a personal feeling
Having watched numerous TV reviews, I finally narrowed it down to these two. There was only one way to decide and that was to actually see them side by side, well at least they were in the same store here in the UK! I went from one to the other and back again several time and finally bought the 65" LG G3 as the Samsung's colour was too oversaturated for my taste. It was a great deal as the LG S95QR soundbar was half price and the LG stand was free, with free installation! I was not disappointed! The TV is directly facing a bay window and I have not experienced any reflections or glare. The quality and the sound are outstanding! For me, it was the right decision. Now, it's your turn 😁
I went with the 95c as i found a place where i didn't have to pay taxes on it and had it for 4k, so was cheaper. It still was 1k more than i wanted to spend. Also i think since i mostly game and watch anime, the intense colors would be better. I honestly would have with the LG for build quality but it just was too expensive and there wasn't anything with last years tech that came close to those tvs at 77 inches hehe
@@120382brian yeah like watch an anime show a bit or a movie on the weekends, but yeah gaming for sure. The only thing that really bothers me now is mostly the build quality but well I guess i can get a replacement if it's issue
Looking forward to the HDR10 v. Dolby Vision video. One of my favorite movies, Hereditary, comes in both versions. I've AB tested them but not on panels like these so while I know there won't be a definitive one is always better than the other conclusion I'm interested in seeing the nuances, if there are any that are noteworthy.
Odd movie choice with respect to HDR content when you could name something like BR2049. Also regarding that director, Midsommar is MUCH more interesting imo :D
This was an excellent review, and they both look amazing, but one thing that I would like to see in all your reviews is how well they upscale a slideshow of photos from a digital camera. Here's why. More often than not, I will crop a photo to get a closeup of the main subject. When I do, the final image is smaller than it started out. I have tested a few TV's to see how the slide show looks. Sony TV's upscale the image to fill the screen without stretching it. Sometimes there will be black bars on the side if the dimensions are more square than rectangle, but the photo will look great and fill the screen as much as possible. Hisense does the same. LG Oled on the other hand displayed the cropped image as a fairly small rectangle in the center of the screen. Upscaling the photo was virtually non-existent. I'm not sure if it could be fixed, but out of the box it's bad. I wanted to try the Samsung, but the local Best Buy wouldn't let me try it because of the way it was mounted on the wall. They couldn't plug in my USB Stick. I currently own an LG Plasma and its upscaling is awful, and based on my limited testing of LG Oled it doesn't seem much better for this application. Sony's upscaling is truly amazing, but I won't decide until I can try a Samsung QD Oled, because they look so good in the store. I'm sure the Sony QD Oled will be just as amazing and I'm also sure the upscaling will be as good as their regular Oled, but I wan't to try the Samsung QD Oled first and hopefully avoid the Sony tax.
Totally got me on the S95C getting mine delivered tomorrow, great reviews on the S95C really did help me decide. Giving up my Panasonic GZ OLED. Need 120fps and brightness of scenes like in Yellowjackets are driving me to a better TV which can handle this. Would love some content on dark scenes and whether having a higher NITS on an QD will make a difference. Dark scenes are a killer for me. The one connect is always a selling point, it may just come down to mounting vs not. And for me the Samsung wins.
The S95B burn it tests were a bit worrying, so it's good to know there's little to choose between the two. I'm holding off until the Sony is out before deciding what to get, and hopefully by then we might start to hear if the 2023 QDs are any different with respect to the burn in "issue". Shame Panasonic aren't using the MLA panel on the 77 inch.
Are they really worrying though, max brightness CNN on non stop it's not real world viewing, still happened of course but maybe the C will be better in that regard.
How dare you leaving this hard decision to us! 😂 Since both TV’s are gorgeous, my advice is to stick to the brand you already have, so you can feel comfortable with the user interface, remote, connections, etc. As Caleb said, there’s no loser in this battle.
I am watching this in 2024, upgrading from my old Samsung KS8000 from 2016. I am really leaning towards the LG G3 from last year, as it has all the features I want for movies and gaming. Also, If Jason Bateman was a TV-enthusiast, this is how he would look! Love the content!
I have a G2 so neither are on my radar but I would probably go with the G3 due to the better panel warranty it's the same reason I chose the G2 over the S95B,
Interesting that there is no mention of the raised black levels with some ambient light, which is actually the biggest factor steering me away from the S95C (although the G3 allegedly also had some raise black level, so I would have loved to see that compared here...)
No one does a better job at this - reviews of TVs etc. - than you. Your reviews are informative, clever and fair-minded and as one who is partial to Old Fashions, I love your reference of them vis-a-vis color variations. Thx much.
South Africa made it so easy for us, as LG is not bringing in the G3. For reasons, I would not know. But finally, Samsung has woken up and brought in the full C Oled range. So I got the only TV available to us, the S95C. But this video made me feel better about my situation as it seems like the differences between the two TVs are not that big. And I can put my FOMO back to bed. Thanks for your channel. It made picking a tv a massive breeze.
After watching many review videos, I see much cleaner motion on the G3 than on the S95c or s90c. Spending this kind of money, I'd hands down take the G3 on motion alone. Brightness is good to a point but these tvs are getting ridiculously bright to a point where it is just overkill. Thanks for the review Caleb. Solid work as usual. Looking forward to your new studio.
I bought the 77” S95C and had it calibrated. I love everything about it. I’m coming from a CX that wasn’t calibrated. One area I think you should have covered is screen uniformity and tinting. Uniformity has been revelatory on the QD OLED compared to my CX which honestly was pretty poor. I could never go back to a WOLED unless LG makes huge strides in uniformity and tinting. It makes a world of difference.
So why compare it to something that wasn’t calibrated ? You make no sense and i have nothing going on with my 65inch CX shouldve never updated the tv bruv
My biggest issue is... Dolby Vision. I've compared a several FALD Samsung TVs without it to TCL and LG (OLED) which both have it, and the difference, especially in dark areas, is striking. TCL and LG just do highlights better. I'm not sure if that's due to Dolby Vision or just the way the HDR algorithms are setup, but Samsung just doesn't do it for me compared to LG, especially on Dolby Vision content.
Dont compare some old samsung tv to lg oleds. I have seen c1’s dv n it was quite disappointing. Ended up getting rid of c1. S95c is significantly better. N not jus that u can mod s95c to hit almost 2100nits. Even g3 bows to that
Hi Caleb, thank you for this excellent comparison. I’m rewatching this video among others, while I’m deciding to buy a new television. I went to see these 2 plus Panasonic MZ2000 at one of the most celebrated retailers in London UK. Apart from the abysmal way those showrooms are set (harsh spotlights pointed at the screens anyone?), this is my personal takeaway. The LG G3 luminance micro stutter is too annoying for me, in particular paired with the greenish tint of the white/all colours. The S95C comes across natural and analog by comparison. The MZ2000, didn’t exhibit micro stutter but the spot lights were so dead on the screen that I could appreciate the colour temperature. Rewatching this video has been so useful. Thank you again.
I used to be Dolby Vision snob! I thought I could not live without it. That was until I got the S95B last year. I have not looked back at all! And Apple TV 4K 2022 converters maybe 90% of titles to HDR 10+
Regarding burn-in, Rtings doesn't have longevity data published _yet_ for the S95C, which has the second-gen QD-OLED that Samsung Display claims is twice as durable as last year's. LG, on the other hand, stands by the G1, G2, and G3 with a 5 year panel warranty and a record proven through the G1/G2 having been winners in Rtings' test thus far.
I love Calebs videos. I feel like we are always on the same page with the points of interest for what a good tv means. Hos reviews always hits on the topics i look for
just purchased the S95C as i love the super bright colors - i always chose the vivid mode on any TV. The gaming mode on the Samsung might be a little too color intense. But i love it. Paired it with the HW-Q990C and absolutely love this setup. Either way - i wanted to go for the G3 before nut happier with the S95C. Both are killing it this year
Will be going the samsung route, the one connect box is really good if you want a clean seetup. Doubt anyone can notice the lack of dolby vision vs no dolby vision content. While they both boast high nits, they still cant beat QLED (LCD).
For me it would be the S95C and I think the tipping point for me is gaming. Especially if we’re talking about SDR gaming I keep hearing and seeing that it just looks flat and dim on the LG. Also for me reflections are important and these W-Oled panels tend to be mirror-like with their reflections. Not saying my S95B doesn’t have reflections but they are considerably muted just enough where it makes it the perfect living room tv for me.
You haven't looked at classy tech video in sdr gaming , g3 and s95c are super close. Most movies are made in the p3 colour space and hardly anything in rec 2020, so they are both near a 100% in P3 colour space. Most reviewers say it is not a colour volume difference but a colour lumance difference. Both are amazing tv's . A95L FTW
not sure where you heard its flat and in particular dim on the lg, i doubt lg is muting colors especially since they have more than enough lumination for colors in sdr, every oled has since 2017. It's just a matter of lower delta e's for sdr at this point. Hdr on the other hand is where manufacturers differ, who's misleading us on what and how much is hard to decipher regarding eotf and accuracy along that eotf. The s95c still doesn't have hgig as well as the option for dolby vision (if the content was actually mastered correctly). It also still doesn't have a polarizer so in your bright living room, those blacks... aren't black.. even when off. The lg just does a plain better job overall vs the s95c and especially the s95b, combined with that polariser to keep the blacks black and its almost not a competition in a bright living room. The motion stutter caleb was talking about on the lg though, I believe thats because in the first half of a pixel transition, it changes really fast, then in the second half its rate decreases significantly. I noticed an improvement in motion clarity going from woled to qd at lower frame rates. Woled also just plain better at near black, either less black crush or more accurate gamma, coz qd pixels transitions are a lot slower down low for gaming, so the solution proposed like changing gamma down there have those side effects.
Windows 11 now has autoHDR and converts almost all SDR games to HDR. I don't know any game I currently play or own that can't be converted. There is also Special K which can remap SDR to HDR. Since I bought an HDR TV, I honestly have not played any game, be it classic old games or recent ones in SDR.
That Sony is really positioning itself well for people who want the most options. G3 not having a stand is not a complete deal breaker but it is inconvenient to the point that I would buy Samsung or Sony just because I have lath and plaster walls. I love my LG CX but that G3 stand is an afterthought and makes the company look pretty bad, it's not something people spending that level on a tv should be getting from the manufacturer and especially not with a price attached. I'm going to have so make a trip into my local bestbuy to see if I can hear the new Samsung soundbar surround setup with the new tv. I have a feeling those transducers, and the time and money spent on r&d, make a big difference in center channel presence for their surround.
Another consideration is source of TV’s programming. As example, are your using a specific streaming box (Amazon Fire, Roku, etc.) Apple TV supports Dolby Vision. Since Samsung’s TV does not and I own Apple products, I will be going with LG.
I went with the S95C the picture quality is just insane the colours pop more I have it on a stand anyway..although it is thinner than the g3 it will look more flush on the wall but I wish it came with a mounting kit
What I’m seeing here is colour clipping on the S95C because the image is oversaturated. It’s the G3 for me; image is more natural in tone. Plus the G3 has Dolby Vision, so I don’t have to worry about tone mapping and missing out on image detail.
what calibration...))) After buying a TV, it must be fully repaired!!! purchase of lg g3 stand $200, audio system another $500, calibration another $500... the TV itself lg g3 77) $4000.... It's better PANASONIC ML2000 MLA Calibrated every tv. individually, audio system bar below the TV. and there is a stand. This is a prestigious extra class super TV. not lg shit, not done, not done. unregulated...LG is a pile of shit! and if you want economy... buy two TVs for one Panasonic. samsung for that price.
It's easier for me to choose between these 2 and it'll be LG G3 and simply for just one reason DOLBY VISION support. Until Samsung implement DV in their TVs, I'll keep my distance away from buying one from them. Fun fact, I can get a pretty good deal on Samsung from Work place, better than BB, Amazon or even Costco. But still, this lack of DV support from Samsung is a no go for me.
Great video! It would be good to point out that the G3 has that 5-yr panel warranty which is the leading manufacturer warranty in the industry right now. Also, the One-Connect box may be a deal breaker for people who have their receivers, streamers, and 4K players significantly far from where the TV is mounted. Sure the Samsung comes with a longer cable as well but it’s only 2.5 meters (8 ft). Plenty of set-ups would need a much longer cable and that One-Connect cable is more difficult to fish through a wall with its thickness and two large connecting ends. And with power running through it is it even in-wall rated for local building codes?
I agree about the annoyance of the OC cable length. I've had OC enabled tv's for the last several years and it was great when they offered 30 - 50' cables. Being limited to 8 feet sucks and has forced me to resort to fiber optic HDMI cables. Also no, the OC cable cannot be run inside the wall, at least not within the bounds of the NEC. Flexible power cables inside the wall is no bueno in the US.
Thanks Caleb! Can’t wait for you to Compare the TCL QM8 and Hisense U8K, hopefully in 85 inches for both! I LOVE your honest, no brand favoritism, reviews. It makes it easier to trust your conclusions, especially these days when you may have to purchase a TV without seeing it first! 😀👍👍
I actually bought the LG G2 after your review of it last year. Originally had gotten the S95B, but first one came with 20 rows of dead pixels, second one was completely destroyed out of the box. G2? I couldn’t be happier with it. It’s stunning. Have no issues with dimming in game mode either. It’s awesome. And if you’re mounting it on the wall, it’s actually super easy to do, and I did it myself with no problems at all. I don’t think I’ll upgrade until my G2 is completely dead. It’s plenty bright, looks stunning, has every feature I could ever ask for. Only thing about Both TVs I hate is the software, I’m now religiously using AppleTV 4K on all TVs. Great video comparison! Way to do it as thoroughly as you did.
that is such a typical samsung story, their quality control just isn't good enough! it's kind of a hit and miss when you buy a tv of them and at this price point, stuff like that just cannot happen!
@@DJ_CJ_NL unfortunately yes. I’ve had a lot of issues with their devices recently, especially after the pandemic started. It seemed like they shut down QC altogether. So I’m not buying anything from that brand anymore. I tend to go with LG, Apple and some other brands, depending on what I’m looking for. So far, LG has been great for me.
I bought an S95C for my home in Canada, previously owning QN90A back home in Croatia. The TV I bought arrives tomorrow and I'm so excited. I was thinking about LG G3 but I was familiar with Samsung's high end models an I like the remote and Tizen while never working with webOS, hence the decision. Next thing on the agenda: either a soundbar or a set of speakers that will go with it for full TV pleasure.
I've actually watched some of those live stream comparisons IN THEIR ENTIRETY! (In segments.) This likely won't happen, but if Sony's A95L could perform as well or better than these sets AND be somewhat similarly priced, then and only then would it be a "easy" decision. (But Sony will likely present us with the egregious Sony Tax again.)
Thank you I purchased this TV. It’s came delivered as I’m writing this. Thank you for the great review. I’m looking forward to the TV. I think you will more than exceed my expectations. I love the way you put the stand together on the last video and with the one connect box is a genius idea makes it so much easier to access the inputsfor gaming and other uses. Samsung 77” S95C
My inflexibility WRT Dolby Vision support isn't that it's clearly superior to HDR10+; arguably it's worse because HDR10+ is an open standard. Heck, the difference between Dolby Vision and HDR10 (not-plus) might be more subtle than I think it is. The issue is that most 4K Blu-rays use Dolby Vision or HDR10 for HDR video, and HDR10+ 4K Blu-rays are not common. The fact that a flagship TV meant for home theaters and media enthusiasts doesn't support Dolby Vision, the most common dynamic HDR format for enthusiast home video, is embarrassing. I'm not singling out Samsung either: LG should support HDR10+, and it's only slightly less stupid that it doesn't. I also thought the lack of DTS support on pre-G3 LG televisions was idiotic considering DTS was the most common Blu-ray audio standard, but at least you could solve that issue with a home theater receiver.
i was looking forward to this comparison video too!! thank you for this! i loved the callout to FOMO as well LOL. thank u for your honesty. also, maybe when the sony a95l comes out, we can have a three-way comparison ^^
I think it would be beneficial doing a video comparing DV to HDR. I know Vincent did a video a while ago and came to the solution that DV mainly helps out lower end TV's and at the premium high end they're essentially similar. It would be interesting to see if the consensus has changed at all over the years. For example, I know for example a lot of people make a big deal about Dolby vision gaming modes for Xbox series x but analysis has proven that almost all of the dolby vision implementations in games is flawed compared to the HDR10 implementation where I'm really starting to think that the importance of DV is really more mind share than actual practical use.
DV pops so much better than regular HDR. HDR10+ is even better than DV imho but content varies; meaning DV can outshine 10+ at times, so I want to experience DV more often myself since I've enjoyed 10+ so much already and will be waiting on the Sony A95L.
@@justinsugay1149 see idk. Ive never seen HDR10+ but on my A80J there's very little difference between DV and HDR10, maybe DV is 2-5% better? But it doesn't feel like it should have remotely as much importance placed on it as it currently does. To me, a lot of the no DV = deal breaker is confirmation bias. People are told DV is radically better than HDR10 and has all of these benefits, if you have a DV tv most streaming services don't offer the option to switch to HDR10, if your tv doesn't have DV then you're not gonna see it anyway.
@@darksparda4 I would agree that DV is clearly better but I wouldn't say radically better. That nuance is important. For the most part I agree. DV isn't a deal breaker nor should it be for most. If you're willing to spend the difference and can appreciate it then perhaps it's worth it to that individual but you said it best I believe in reference to the confirmation bias. Best
Thank you for finally naming it as it is. It doesn't matter if HDR10+ is as good as DV. If there is no content in HDR10+, that simply doesn't matter at all.
I have a LG C9 and im defiently upgrading this year. I like LG, my C9 is still going strong, no problems whatsoever! I want Dolby Vision, and the 5 year pannel warranty on the G3 is awesome!!! To me Samsung build quality is a little iffy, no D.V. and their terrible firmware updates, and that QD-Oled is only on its second generation (realibility is still a real question), all that and the G3 is a easy choice for me. If I would entertain a QD-OLED (and I still am) I would buy the Sony A-95L. Big thing of course is the superb Sony processing, the negative of course the Sony tax😢. Im waiting to see both tvs many times at my local Best Buy before i buy around Black Friday. All three are great tvs it all comes down to personal preference. Good luck everyone!!!
I thought the "coin toss" was handled very well. In the end, personal choice IS key. You could lessen the reds on one TV or up the saturation on the other. Then they could be even harder to distinguish. I appreciated the dilemma and the forthrightness of the presentation. Great comparison.
Thanks for an honest comparison Caleb. I’m getting the G3. I’m trusting LGs years in the business and their updates reliability on this one. But definitely hard choice for sure. As for Sony don’t have enough piggy banks to afford one this time. Not at 77 inches.
absolutely great review! love this channel, this didnt help with me deciding, LOL (no fault to you)...i will say though, and dont take this personally, but im scratching my head at how you guys are a 1mil subscriber channel with excellent view counts and TV review focused but somehow cant afford to finance a $30k reference monitor, when little old nobody me who works for myself can afford to finance a $30k lighting console for my work....
Some people say Dolby Vision isn't that Important, but I think most consumers that are used to it appreciate the difference between DV and HDR10. It's a really noticeable step up from HDR10 to me. Except from a few poor offerings (Pirates of th Caribbean comes to mind), most content really benefits from it. I couldn't imagine giving up a feature I enjoy the next time I upgrade. You want to gain features, not lose them.
Samsung has HDR10+ which I've only found used in the Amazon Prime app; it's way better than HDR10 too. DV does stand out from regular HDR for sure. Some say HDR10+ is actually even better than DV. So keep that in mind but I hear you. I'm leaning to upgrade my QLED QN90A to the Sonly A95L when it comes out depending on the reviews, specs, etc. and am looking forward to seeing for myself how much better DV is. For those who haven't experienced it they don't know what they are missing but I can say the same for HDR10+ but I believe DV support would be able to match if not exceed at times depending on the content.
Stop the FOMO compared the two extensively with a lot of equipment and he himself said that the difference is barely noticeable and preferred both tv’s in different situations.
@@justinsugay1149 My TV is an OLED that supports DV and HDR10+. Wouldn't really want to give up either but even Amazon have started to support DV instead of HDR10+ so it's basically a dead format now. I can vouch for the quality though.
This is very similar to audiophile discussions. The differences between multi-kilobuck headphones exists, but they are subtle and really down to preference. Do you want more bass? More detail? There's always a tradeoff.
Just a warning to anyone considering an S95C, my S95B is already showing some slight burn in. I've had this panel since May 2022 when Samsung replaced the first panel due to a stuck pixel, and now my unit is out of warranty ☹️. It's not horrendous, but considering I've only had the unit for about a year I can only imagine how bad it will look later on, so I'm probably going to get a G3 later on this year.
Thanks for the review Caleb I checked out side to side a S90c and C3 in a shop for a while and think the Samsung just was a tad better using the same FTA source material. I've had 3 Lg tv's 2 of which were Oleds with 0 issues one had done 17k hours but I have just ordered a 77" S95c hopefully ive done the right thing and should have it in 2 days. It was a tough choice but am wall mounting it and the OCB is a bonus in that respect. Not having DV isn't a concern HDR10 is still fine and to be honest I can't tell the difference anyway with my old eyes. I think the trick for looking after your OLED tv's is making sure they run the comp cycles regularly and I used to run the big one every 1k hours. If the TV was going to be on all afternoon then night I would switch it off for a bit to run the 4 hourly cycle rather then just let it run all day. cheers
Idk if you've heard this, but you look and sound so much like Andy Serkins! so cool man, also great video! ordered QE55S92CAT yesterday, and can't wait for it!
I got my G3 two months ago, I absolutely love it. I was finally going to make the plunge into OLED last year with a C2, but when I heard of the G3 advancements, I had to wait. I'm so glad I did, the brightness on SDR content is beautiful. I was pretty much focused on LG, I didn't even consider Samsung. Most of my content is on physical media, so Dolby Vision support made the choice easier. The stutter from the instant pixel illumination, it's not the best, but Real Cinema on with everything else off is still the best. I'm already used to any stutter.
For me a sum up of which of these tvs you should get are the following. Just tyrna help people out 1. If you mostly watch tv & non-hdr content then Ill get the G3 cause of higher white brightness, better low bit rate content, & higher sport brightness 2. If you mostly watch hdr movies & tv shows then either tv will be great for you but the minor differences might help decide for you. LG advantages: slightly brighter in white scenes Samsung advantages: slightly brighter color luminance * during scenes where white & vibrant colors are mix, both tvs are very identical so keep that in mind 3. If gaming what you do the most then the S95C would be the tv I'll get cause of the following • Higher game mode brightness *LG remove game mode brightness boost cause It'll add input lag. • Better color luminance • 144hz support • Has game motion plus. Lg does not I hope this help makes your decision. Overall theres not a single area where there is a "BIG" difference between the two tvs. If you made it hear, thanks for reading my comment
Agree although I don't like the G3 stand, also not sure how relevant DV actually is in practice since HDR10 still looks phenominal on OLED in person and is more common.
What’s the point of this comment? You’re either watching this video because you enjoy TVs, or because you’re looking to buy. If you fall into neither of these categories, then what are you looking for? Such a Debbie downer, for what?
If Samsung included Dolby Vision which is pretty much standard these days with most all manufacturers of tvs sold today, they would likley outsell every competitor brand, especially with these newer Quantum OLED and LED models.
Hey everyone. Really sweated this one. Hope I did ok for you and you find this video helpful. Also, I know those of you into gaming will correctly point out that it seems the G3’s game mode picture preset is dimming the image and for you that might sway you, but also the lack of DV support and supposed burn-in risk of the S95C sways a lot of folks as well. As only a casual gamer, I don’t feel like I want to weigh in too heavily on that aspect, so I’m leaving it for other creators to handle. I’ll just say I’ve had a ton of fun playing just about everything but FPS games on both. Thanks again! And keep those comments coming! Love ‘em!
Essentially your review matches the other reviews I've seen. You can't go wrong with either one. I'm curious to see the Sony A95L compared with them. I've seen some reviews where the A95K was comparing favorably against these guys.
Now I'm curious if anyone is going to do a review of the 83" G3 since reviews of the other sizes might not be applicable due to it not having MLA.
Caleb, you are right that you need a reference monitor. But, we all know that the QD-OLEDs just have more color volume. And the problem is we have never had a TV with so much color volume. So we are all used to getting less...it's all we know. So when we look at these and think there is too much red, it may just be that it is supposed to be there and we never knew it. The LG looks closer to what we know, and therefore perhaps more "correct" for now.
We need a c3 vs s90c in the 77 inch panel comparison!
@@sunshinecycling I considered this possibility, so I tested for it; and it isn’t a color volume factor. The set needs color calibration, even if using Filmmaker Mode, for the reds to display correctly. This is apparent by how reds look in SDR content, where color volume isn’t a factor.
@@sunshinecycling But yeah, that was my first thought as well. And what you say is still true. I just mean that my issue with the reds in particular isn’t tied to this phenomenon
At the end of the day, let's just be grateful that the competition is so intense this year that it's brought us to this point in display technology. You really can't go wrong with either one! Thanks, as always, Caleb!
@@cadefoster9279 the left? I’m pretty sure it’s the right who’s anti competitiveness
@@cadefoster9279 You mean as opposed to the head banging far right.
What a time to be a consumer 🤓
you're hands down the best reviewer as you keep things realistic and dont get lost in the numbers. Whilst i appreciate Vincent's obsession with the numbers, he often lacks a real world interpretation (i.e what do those numbers actually mean in practice).
Exactly
I have a Samsung 65-inch Class QLED Q90T that I got in 2020. It still blows most my friends away. Caleb: how much better are these new TVs in terms of everyday viewing? Back when I bought the Samsung, the brightness over OLEDs in 2020 is what swayed me, but it seems that isn't an issue anymore.
I had the q90t, qn90B, then oled G1 and now G3, all oleds, especially this new G3 will blow the Q90T out of the water, crazy difference
Well Oleds in general are almost embarrassingly better than any Qled. Like it’s chalk and cheese. You then go QD or MLA? It’s like really bad. “Stop hitting him! He’s alreadyyy deaddddd.” Lol
q90t is far away from OLED quality. brightness alone makes not good picture quality.
@@alexseto2084 Thanks for the input! Can you give me a little detail on why the G3 is so much better? Sharper, better off angle viewing, contrast, etc.? When I upgraded to the Samsung I had a 10 year old Sony Bravia LED. It was clear that that the Samsung was WAY better. But with the Q90T, it's hard for me to imagine a new TV *blowing it away* lol
@AllGoodThingsNetwork for one, it has way way less Input lag overall, plus almost zero pixel response time, everything feels much more fluid, its much sharper too, but for me, its the depth of the contrast, with pure blacks and dazzling brights from these newer oleds, it makes the qled tvs look washed out in comparison
You get extra points for recognizing and being sensitive to the idea that your audience members are not all high tech types.
A bunch of us are just looking for the latest really good screen, no matter what they did inside to make it that way.
And YES, the Remote IS important! I want to be sure the volume/mute protocol is the standard 'Muted until Volume Up or Mute button is pressed'. I prefer AA batteries, as I think they last longer than AAA.
Another differentiator that tipped in favor of the S95C for me that I'm surprised no one seems to be mentioning in these reviews is NATIVE Philips Hue integration via an exclusive partnership and app that was rolled out earlier this year for TVs made in the last year or so going forward (including the S95C). No it's not free and the license is non-transferrable, but it can replace their physical (and outdated) HDMI sync box which removes a link in the chain between my devices and does native surround light syncing in a defined entertainment area once paired with a Hue Light Control Bridge. For someone like me heavily invested in their light ecosystem, this was a big win. The separate OneConnect Box too is amazing for cabling and 4K 120Hz VRR Gaming on PS5 is next level. Loving this TV overall; keep up the great work Caleb!
Wow! you're right this is not talked about enough at all
Wow, this comment is the first I have heard of this. That's actually pretty amazing
Thank you for mentioning! Just reading about this and may sway me from G3 to S95C and I have SmartThings already.
If software support matters, my understanding is that LG has already pushed out an update to improve/fix the ABL performance and also created one for the G2/C2 models. That's encouraging and seems to be contrasted by last year's update by Samsung that reportedly lowered their brightness.
And yet ratings says that the G3 is (slightly) less prone to burn in. A television this expensive should last you a while, and a 5 yr warranty says LG is confident rhat the G3 will.
Yes indeed...LG=less burn in..im done with saSamsung due to their bait and switch tactics in the past..
I will never buy an LG Oled again, i had to send my G2 back because of the banding, uniformity and pink tint issues. I spent many nights in the LG forums and i will never get that time back.
@@Michael.Talbot lol..Im done with Samsung..I guess samsung is trying to redeem themselves after the old Bait and switch games they played for the last 5years. Next time go with the C series of lg oled tvs..I have no loyalty to these companies..I just to with what's good at the time
@@LOGICAL-JAY I am done with Oled TVs period and i will never buy one again. I wish i went with the S95B tbh because i hear that they do not have those problems but you live and learn i guess.
Seems like these have gotten so good that there really isn’t a better choice…it’s just a small series of trade offs that is going to differ person to person.
Thanks for another great video presentation! We have the exact feelings on these two premium TVs! I liked and shared this video on many Facebook groups and A/V Forums.
Good to know that these are so close. With that said, I’ll probably go with the G3 for the 5 year warranty against burn-in. I’m replacing a 5 year old LG B7 with some serious burn-in from firestick icons that started at the 3 year mark, so burn-in is a real concern for me.
I’ve been debating between these 2 TV’s since the beginning of the year and eventually purchased the Samsung, but if I woke up next morning and my Samsung magically turned into a g3. I wouldn’t even complain and just stick with that. It’s like trying to split hairs pointing out the differences between them and for that I’m grateful for the variety. You’re not missing out on anything, regardless of which one you pick
Have you mounted this on the wall or kept it on its stand? I think that is probably one of the few is any factors 😂
It’s on a stand
This video is an excellent example of why specs on a sheet are not the be all and end all…..it’s what the companies do with those specs that count. Last year I bought a Panasonic LZ2000 (U.K. based). The final two TVs on my list were the Panasonic and the Sony A95K which I was lucky enough to view side by side in a dark room. Although everyone would suggest that spec wise the Sony was the far superior TV, in reality it didn’t turn out that way.
In some instances the Sony looked better, and other times, the Panasonic looked better. The bottom line was that the differences were so small but the price premium of the Sony (at the time) was so significant, it turned out to be a no contest…..I went with the Panasonic. I have to say that after owning the TV now for 9 months I love the set more now than the day I bought it….it’s a fantastic TV. What you see with your eyes…counts more than the spec sheet.
I'm waiting to see what Panasonic MLA is like later on.
I got the G3 a couple of weeks ago and are very pleased with the overall picture, especially the amazing brightness from MLA. Looks amazing with the flush wall mount.
How does this perform in a bright room, I have a bright room so would like to know how it performs
Although I don’t have a bright window opposite the TV, I do have windows at each end of the room. The G3 is amazingly bright, I have actually turned down the brightness slightly. The new MLA and anti reflection screen work very well. I don’t see any reflections as was a problem on previous models. I have heard criticism about the sound quality, Mine is connected to Sonos Arc, 2 Era 300’s and Gen 2 Sub, so can’t really comment. To summarise I would think this TV would be ideal in a bright room, looks amazing on the flush wall mount. Upscaling Is excellent and UHD content from Netflix, Apple TV, SkyQ, Blu-ray etc looks amazing. One thing I hope gets fixed soon is the dark Dolby Vision when viewed in Filmmaker Mode. Worth the money in my opinion, hope this helps.
Thank you for the info much appreciated
You are welcome. Hope you enjoy your G3 if you decide it’s the one for you. To be honest I still can’t believe how bright it is.
I have a LG CX and I feel like the biggest weakness is the OS and Wii remote pointer.
How was your experience with mounting the flush wall mount?
I've just bought the 77" G3, which is being delivered next week. I'm beyond excited as it's my first new TV for about 15 years (I'm used to a 40" Samsung LCD!).
Just the major increase in immersion that you'll gain when watching widescreen, Panavision types of films, by moving up from your old 40 inch LCD to a 77 inch OLED (not to mention the huge increase in black level quality you'll get with OLED), will be making you say WOW to yourself, very often, during the first 3 or 4 months that you watch your new panel, or even for quite a longer period of time than that!!!
If you had a plasma you would be very disappointed in the G3. I bought a 77” oled. It was HORRIBLE!! A dim dark mess. I’d love a bigger screen but I’m not going to spend almost 4k on a tv that only looks good in complete darkness.
@@mrb0775LOL, yes he will be saying WOW this tv sucks for months to come.
Good stuff, Caleb! The whole Dolby Vision stubbornness from Samsung was my big concern with the S95C. But if a TV reviewer doesn't see enough of a difference to make the lack of that feature a deal breaker, then I will absolutely not notice. Before this video, the race for me was between the G3 and A95L. But you just put S95C back on the board. Now we just wait for the fashionably late Sony, to make that final buying decision.
This is the argument I've been trying to make for quite some time with DV. Glad to see more influencers on YT spreading the word that DV's usefulness is HIGHLY dependent upon the type of TV that it's going into. It certainly isn't the must-have feature that so many people have convinced themselves it is.
Finally! DV essentially is "dumbing down" the image into something your TV can handle. That's why it always looked so good on the old LG OLEDs that had a peak brightness of 500 nits. Anything above that was blown out in HDR10. So obviously DV looks way better. But the better the TV gets, the less of an effect DV has. And it seems like we're finally getting to that point
I just got an S95b, my previous TV supported DV, I honestly don’t notice it at all and don’t miss it even remotely.
Still don’t care, Dolby Vision gaming looks different than HDR10 gaming because it implements DTM from the console level when gaming with an Xbox.
No Dolby Vision, no buy. Sammy needs to bite the bullet and support it, because there are many people who want QD-OLED that supports not just Dolby Vision, but also HDR10+.
So much ignorance in these comments. DV is superior in every way to standard HDR due to its specs. You, and samsung, are betting that content creators will continue to put out garbage implementations of DV in the future, allowing you to ignore it. I argue you are going to lose this bet, as more recent content has shown, but you do you.
Well, we didn’t really need a new TV, but we bought one anyway this week. Before I watched all or nearly all of Caleb’s reviews on the Samsung & LG comparisons, plus other reviews on the same. We’ve always had very good luck with Samsung, so we bought the Samsung S95C in 65” as that was the largest I could reasonably fit in our TV snug that has a nice fireplace and is a very comfortable room. We’ve had super bad luck with some LG products and repairmen did too, so we’ve tended to view LG with a jaundice eye. We added the top soundbar configuration in 7.1 as the room (16’X 22’) is just too small for 11.1, IMO. It will be delivered today and setup tonight. Admittedly, I’m not yet too old (80) to be excited! Thanks Caleb! Much appreciated.
I ended up getting the G3, before most of the S95C reviews came in. I was getting the sense these are going to be neck-and-neck and I'm glad I wasn't wrong. For me the G3 won mainly because of the no-gap mount in the box. I was always going to hang the TV, and it didn't make sense to get one for which I'd have to buy a bracket, when the G3 already came with one. I haven't upgraded my TV in 15 years, so it was definitely a noticeable upgrade for me :)
what calibration...))) After buying a TV, it must be fully repaired!!!
purchase of lg g3 stand $200, audio system another $800, calibration another $700... the TV itself lg g3 77) $5000....
It's better PANASONIC ML2000 MLA Calibrated every tv. individually, audio system bar below the TV.
and there is a stand. This is a prestigious extra class super TV. not lg shit, not done, not done. unregulated...LG is a pile of shit!
and if you want economy... buy two TVs for one Panasonic. samsung for that price.
Keep it for another decade 😊
@@hastensavoir7782 yes, I buy panasonic where all hollywood is watching, and you choose lg g3 nyscie beggars!😀😀😁😁😁🙋🙋🙋💪💪💪🇱🇷🇱🇹🇺🇦🇨🇰🇬🇧PANASONIC
Whoa! After 15 years, the G3 must look like a spaceship to you.
@@shroey20 The man’s blessed I hope he doesn’t watch another tv review except for his own tv for years to come, that’s how happiness is sustained 😍
I'm more of a Samsung guy. That said, objectively it appears there are more possible knocks on the S95C and the G3 is the safer bet. You have highlighted that the differences are negligible. I personally don't feel that the lack of DV is a deal breaker from my experience but I have an QN90A QLED for specific reasons. At the moment, I'm leaning to save for the upcoming Sony A95L but this review is intriguing nonetheless. Thank you Caleb for sweating this one out. One would assume you'd be jaded by now but it's refreshing to see you still care enough to stress over this like a regular consumer would. That empathic energy keeps me watching. Best
G3 being gimped in game mode is the biggest flaw any TV has
I played around with both of them. LG G3 was the winner for me but not by much. The input lag, gaming mode, picture quality was a hair better and the fact that it supports Dolby Vision makes it the clear winner.
wrong , picture quality and colors are slightly better in S95c 14:06 the flower here has more details and better color.
15:03 here also the winner is clear
Wrong but thanks for telling me what I saw with my own tests and eyes. Enjoy your Samsung S95C fanboy 🤣
@@NorthShoreDrama right, I think with calibration the G3 is a great tv, plus you don't have to worry about have the tv bent from shipping... also another review mention that you don't have an input/source button on the samsung remote 😑
I think I would pay even slightly more for the LG just to have some reassurance that the TV will last longer. In the end, even if you upgrade to a new TV, the old one probably will be given to a lesser role in a second room or used for something else, and the longevity still matters. Spending this much money always means you should care about longevity.
I've already got the S95C, and I'm happy with it. The colours won me over. The one conect box is good.
Except colors lg is better overall
@@ahmet_10 Except the Color on the LG is washed out and faded looking.
@@raynel8495 did you notify me to youtube??
@@ahmet_10except with input lag, refresh rate also
@@sachaburki8535 input lag is almost same, you cant notice, also refrest rate is enough, 120hz is enough, i would prefer lg
My S95C is astonishing. Loving my experience
Are you from Ohio?
Especially as a second year tv
How is it for sports
@@michaeladams3490 perfect for sports
I like your honesty. I looked at both TVs before I decided to go with the S95C and you are right. Both offered an amazing picture, but to my eyes the Samsung won. I think when you’re spending the kind of money you have to spend to own one of those TVs, you have to buy what you like, period. Some people are going to like the LG, and some the Samsung!
Hey bro,
I wanted to know did you wall mount the tv or kept at a tv stand ??
@@_curious_Devansh I wall mounted it because I have a 7 months old Belgian Malinois, that think everything is real on it!
I use a Philips HDMI Sync Box and the built-in support for Philips HDMI light sync on the Samsung makes me lean toward the S95C. The HDMI sync makes a world of difference in TV immersion imo, and getting that without the current constraints of the separate Sync Box (no HDMI 2.1 output, no video mode switching based on HDMI input) would be perfect.
Thanks for commenting this bro! Didn’t know Samsung TV’s had that feature! I use Philips Hue Gradient Light Strip on my current LG OLED. I’m sold on that Samsung feature alone! Ditching LG and my Philips Sync Box and going with the S95C 1000%!
Probly come down to price.
I'd personally lean towards G3 for lower burn in risk but either be epic!
Thank you for your review!! It has been your best videos amongst the ones I have watched since last 2 weeks. I’ll go with S95C.
I was flip-flopping between both TVs but finally took the plunge on the G3 because I knew I was wall mounting and Richer Sounds (in the UK) had a £500 cashback offer. When things are this close it was always going to be a minor thing that did it in the end.
Yup, build quality, wall mount and 300eur cashback on the 65inch is what convinced me. Im here to reassure myself 😅
When you're getting that much of a discount, it's a no brainer.
@@yannickputtemans Stop watching reviews. There's always one that makes you doubt your decision and it's not useful. 😉
@@Yggdrasil42 If HDTVTest does a side by side.. Im not sure I keep that promise :D
Did you see the G3 at RS before buying, as my local one hasn't got it in for viewing?
Great review, although I'm sitting here wondering if any of the TV manufactures will soon release a TV that has the benefits of both QD-OLED and MLA. Do you think it's possible or just far to costly?
I hope Panasonic will.
I've been watching your reviews on these two tv's now since they were first brought to the channel. I made the decision this weekend to just go for it and get the S95C. What was my deciding factor, something as simple as where I'm going to put my TV. I'm not hanging it, but putting it on a stand. S95C comes with one, and G3 doesn't. With them being about the same price, PLUS having to buy a stand for the G3, was the choice for me. Plus, I already have a Samsung TV with a 1 Connect box, so changing over to a new one will be easy. My S95C is scheduled to be delivered on Friday and I can't wait!!!
Tv stands around 50 dollars or pounds.
@@grahamdhv3812 That's $50 I don't have to spend because Samsung comes with one :)
I thought the reason Dolby Vision support is a big deal is because most HDR content only supports one standard or the other, so you're just able to see more stuff in HDR if you support all the standards. Not because of one standard being drastically better than the other.
tvs that don’t support dv will fallback to hdr10 when playing dv content. still hdr, but without dynamic metadata. the better the tv the less that even matters.
Everything supports HDR10.. DV has a mandatory HDR10 compatibility..
Essentially if your TV is capable of 1000nits (like S95c).. you are good to go. Everything in HDR is going to look as good as it should regardless of the Codec.
This channel (gentleman) is SO vital if you need information (accurate) without brand shilling or putting you to sleep with too much tech babble really for the hardcore enthusiast. I have my little 48" LG CX which still serves it purpose but watching this I begin to wonder, "is it time to upgrade?" Lol kidding! Great video none the less.
Dolby Vision is different from TV to TV. It is trying to help your tv show the best image it can. So lesser quality tvs get a giant boost from DV. But the better the tv gets the less of an effect DV has. So if you loved DV on an older tv.. that does not mean DV is going to be the same.. or even make a difference on these newer tvs. There is a clear misunderstanding of what DV actually does. And if DV is a deal breaker for you then you dont really understand how it works.
Caleb said at the end he would need to flip a coin to decide which one to buy to bring home. This shows how close these two TVs are. Like the competition.
The toughest decision I've ever made! The S95C 77" (3,099€) and G3 77" (3,299€) were both on Black Friday sale. Coming from an LG CX 65", this choice had to be just right. Since movies are my main priority and gaming is non-existent, I ultimately went with the LG G3. However, the S95C had me contemplating for a while, especially with its one-connect box. With a 5-year warranty from LG and a fantastic movie picture, I believe the G3 will be the perfect choice for me.
I think is a personal decision,I pick the G3 because looks more natural to my eyes, QD image is a great but I don’t know, bit more artificial ? Like I said is a personal feeling
Leaving out a game comparison for these TVs is a colossal miss. I hope that you make a game comparison soon!
Having watched numerous TV reviews, I finally narrowed it down to these two.
There was only one way to decide and that was to actually see them side by side, well at least they were in the same store here in the UK!
I went from one to the other and back again several time and finally bought the 65" LG G3 as the Samsung's colour was too oversaturated for my taste.
It was a great deal as the LG S95QR soundbar was half price and the LG stand was free, with free installation!
I was not disappointed! The TV is directly facing a bay window and I have not experienced any reflections or glare.
The quality and the sound are outstanding!
For me, it was the right decision.
Now, it's your turn 😁
I went with the 95c as i found a place where i didn't have to pay taxes on it and had it for 4k, so was cheaper. It still was 1k more than i wanted to spend. Also i think since i mostly game and watch anime, the intense colors would be better. I honestly would have with the LG for build quality but it just was too expensive and there wasn't anything with last years tech that came close to those tvs at 77 inches hehe
Notice he left put gaming right? That's because that's where the s95c seperates way ahead of the g3
@@120382brian yeah like watch an anime show a bit or a movie on the weekends, but yeah gaming for sure. The only thing that really bothers me now is mostly the build quality but well I guess i can get a replacement if it's issue
@@120382brian Some of us don't actually game...
no tax and $500 off list? was the place you found the back of a truck? 🙂
@@judeplante6241 nah it's just a pretty popular auction site with retailers
Looking forward to the HDR10 v. Dolby Vision video. One of my favorite movies, Hereditary, comes in both versions. I've AB tested them but not on panels like these so while I know there won't be a definitive one is always better than the other conclusion I'm interested in seeing the nuances, if there are any that are noteworthy.
Hereditary is one of your favorite movies? 😀 I'd pay money not to watch that again!
@@techsamurai11 Haha yeah I'm a horror fanatic. I loved it! The HDR implementation with the bluray release was a big improvement to my eyes at least.
I’ll save you the wait. He’s going to say there’s barely any difference and Samsung TVs are totally just as good as everything else.
@@GuyUnderTheBridge I mean... that's how Dolby Vision works right? The closer the tvs are to reference the less of an effect DV has.
Odd movie choice with respect to HDR content when you could name something like BR2049. Also regarding that director, Midsommar is MUCH more interesting imo :D
This was an excellent review, and they both look amazing, but one thing that I would like to see in all your reviews is how well they upscale a slideshow of photos from a digital camera. Here's why. More often than not, I will crop a photo to get a closeup of the main subject. When I do, the final image is smaller than it started out. I have tested a few TV's to see how the slide show looks. Sony TV's upscale the image to fill the screen without stretching it. Sometimes there will be black bars on the side if the dimensions are more square than rectangle, but the photo will look great and fill the screen as much as possible. Hisense does the same. LG Oled on the other hand displayed the cropped image as a fairly small rectangle in the center of the screen. Upscaling the photo was virtually non-existent. I'm not sure if it could be fixed, but out of the box it's bad. I wanted to try the Samsung, but the local Best Buy wouldn't let me try it because of the way it was mounted on the wall. They couldn't plug in my USB Stick. I currently own an LG Plasma and its upscaling is awful, and based on my limited testing of LG Oled it doesn't seem much better for this application. Sony's upscaling is truly amazing, but I won't decide until I can try a Samsung QD Oled, because they look so good in the store. I'm sure the Sony QD Oled will be just as amazing and I'm also sure the upscaling will be as good as their regular Oled, but I wan't to try the Samsung QD Oled first and hopefully avoid the Sony tax.
Totally got me on the S95C getting mine delivered tomorrow, great reviews on the S95C really did help me decide. Giving up my Panasonic GZ OLED. Need 120fps and brightness of scenes like in Yellowjackets are driving me to a better TV which can handle this. Would love some content on dark scenes and whether having a higher NITS on an QD will make a difference. Dark scenes are a killer for me. The one connect is always a selling point, it may just come down to mounting vs not. And for me the Samsung wins.
How has the experience been so far? Did it live up to your expectation?
@@suraj4020 has been an amazing TV. No issues at all, and the image is incredible. Gaming with such a bright screen 👍🏻 one connect box love it.
The S95B burn it tests were a bit worrying, so it's good to know there's little to choose between the two. I'm holding off until the Sony is out before deciding what to get, and hopefully by then we might start to hear if the 2023 QDs are any different with respect to the burn in "issue". Shame Panasonic aren't using the MLA panel on the 77 inch.
Are they really worrying though, max brightness CNN on non stop it's not real world viewing, still happened of course but maybe the C will be better in that regard.
Sony is the best for movies and Lg for gaming samsung is not top 2 anymore
@@fabolousjada5070 the G3 has luminance colour banding issues, samsung is best for gaming atm
I'd go for the G3 over S95C. I've messed around with Samsungs quite a lot trying to dial in colors and only ended up with an eyestrain headache.
How dare you leaving this hard decision to us! 😂
Since both TV’s are gorgeous, my advice is to stick to the brand you already have, so you can feel comfortable with the user interface, remote, connections, etc. As Caleb said, there’s no loser in this battle.
Actually there is. One uses Dolby Vision, the other does not.
I am watching this in 2024, upgrading from my old Samsung KS8000 from 2016. I am really leaning towards the LG G3 from last year, as it has all the features I want for movies and gaming.
Also, If Jason Bateman was a TV-enthusiast, this is how he would look!
Love the content!
I'm still using my no questions best TV i bought, Pioneer Kuro 600 KRP in its 15th year still makes me smile
200 Nits@10% Window 😜
I have the same and still enjoy it’s picture when I’m not using my OLED set. It actually does some things better.
Still using my pioneer pdp lx5090 plasma.
I have a G2 so neither are on my radar but I would probably go with the G3 due to the better panel warranty it's the same reason I chose the G2 over the S95B,
Interesting that there is no mention of the raised black levels with some ambient light, which is actually the biggest factor steering me away from the S95C (although the G3 allegedly also had some raise black level, so I would have loved to see that compared here...)
Not a problem
No one does a better job at this - reviews of TVs etc. - than you. Your reviews are informative, clever and fair-minded and as one who is partial to Old Fashions, I love your reference of them vis-a-vis color variations. Thx much.
South Africa made it so easy for us, as LG is not bringing in the G3. For reasons, I would not know. But finally, Samsung has woken up and brought in the full C Oled range. So I got the only TV available to us, the S95C. But this video made me feel better about my situation as it seems like the differences between the two TVs are not that big. And I can put my FOMO back to bed. Thanks for your channel. It made picking a tv a massive breeze.
After watching many review videos, I see much cleaner motion on the G3 than on the S95c or s90c. Spending this kind of money, I'd hands down take the G3 on motion alone. Brightness is good to a point but these tvs are getting ridiculously bright to a point where it is just overkill. Thanks for the review Caleb. Solid work as usual. Looking forward to your new studio.
I bought the 77” S95C and had it calibrated. I love everything about it. I’m coming from a CX that wasn’t calibrated. One area I think you should have covered is screen uniformity and tinting. Uniformity has been revelatory on the QD OLED compared to my CX which honestly was pretty poor. I could never go back to a WOLED unless LG makes huge strides in uniformity and tinting. It makes a world of difference.
have the 77 inch lg g3. its awesome. clean panel also.
So why compare it to something that wasn’t calibrated ? You make no sense and i have nothing going on with my 65inch CX shouldve never updated the tv bruv
@@fabolousjada5070 because UNIFORMITY has NOTHING to do with calibrating. Lol
What settings do u use after calibration?
@@Sabru1985Describe uniformity
Awesome video. Am looking at these two right now and yours is the best comparison video out there
My biggest issue is... Dolby Vision. I've compared a several FALD Samsung TVs without it to TCL and LG (OLED) which both have it, and the difference, especially in dark areas, is striking. TCL and LG just do highlights better. I'm not sure if that's due to Dolby Vision or just the way the HDR algorithms are setup, but Samsung just doesn't do it for me compared to LG, especially on Dolby Vision content.
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Dont compare some old samsung tv to lg oleds. I have seen c1’s dv n it was quite disappointing. Ended up getting rid of c1. S95c is significantly better. N not jus that u can mod s95c to hit almost 2100nits. Even g3 bows to that
Hi Caleb, thank you for this excellent comparison. I’m rewatching this video among others, while I’m deciding to buy a new television. I went to see these 2 plus Panasonic MZ2000 at one of the most celebrated retailers in London UK. Apart from the abysmal way those showrooms are set (harsh spotlights pointed at the screens anyone?), this is my personal takeaway. The LG G3 luminance micro stutter is too annoying for me, in particular paired with the greenish tint of the white/all colours. The S95C comes across natural and analog by comparison. The MZ2000, didn’t exhibit micro stutter but the spot lights were so dead on the screen that I could appreciate the colour temperature. Rewatching this video has been so useful. Thank you again.
Dolby vision comes standard on so many TVs. Samsung really needs to add it
Basically a deal breaker not having Dolby Vision
@Bzake I disagree
@@bb2statusDolby vision is not be all in and all when it comes to Tvs. The Samsung tv it's so good, you don't need it!
@@nathanmerritt1581 if I watch a Dolby vision movie on Apple TV or 4k Blu-ray well wouldn’t it make since to have a tv with Dolby vision
@@nathanmerritt1581 you're delusional
I used to be Dolby Vision snob! I thought I could not live without it. That was until I got the S95B last year. I have not looked back at all! And Apple TV 4K 2022 converters maybe 90% of titles to HDR 10+
Regarding burn-in, Rtings doesn't have longevity data published _yet_ for the S95C, which has the second-gen QD-OLED that Samsung Display claims is twice as durable as last year's. LG, on the other hand, stands by the G1, G2, and G3 with a 5 year panel warranty and a record proven through the G1/G2 having been winners in Rtings' test thus far.
Í don't think the 5 year warranty covers burn in. At least not in Australia it doesn't.
I love Calebs videos. I feel like we are always on the same page with the points of interest for what a good tv means. Hos reviews always hits on the topics i look for
just purchased the S95C as i love the super bright colors - i always chose the vivid mode on any TV. The gaming mode on the Samsung might be a little too color intense. But i love it.
Paired it with the HW-Q990C and absolutely love this setup. Either way - i wanted to go for the G3 before nut happier with the S95C. Both are killing it this year
Use classys settings for the most accurate gaming settings on the S95C
I’d recommend not connecting your TV to wifi. Otherwise you may lose that brightness. Samsung did this to the s95B last year.
@@jesustsa1 absolutely!!! Don’t connect it at all because it will auto update even if you tell it not to
vivid... gross
Vivid = wasting money on a TV.
Will be going the samsung route, the one connect box is really good if you want a clean seetup. Doubt anyone can notice the lack of dolby vision vs no dolby vision content. While they both boast high nits, they still cant beat QLED (LCD).
For me it would be the S95C and I think the tipping point for me is gaming. Especially if we’re talking about SDR gaming I keep hearing and seeing that it just looks flat and dim on the LG.
Also for me reflections are important and these W-Oled panels tend to be mirror-like with their reflections. Not saying my S95B doesn’t have reflections but they are considerably muted just enough where it makes it the perfect living room tv for me.
You haven't looked at classy tech video in sdr gaming , g3 and s95c are super close. Most movies are made in the p3 colour space and hardly anything in rec 2020, so they are both near a 100% in P3 colour space. Most reviewers say it is not a colour volume difference but a colour lumance difference. Both are amazing tv's . A95L FTW
not sure where you heard its flat and in particular dim on the lg, i doubt lg is muting colors especially since they have more than enough lumination for colors in sdr, every oled has since 2017. It's just a matter of lower delta e's for sdr at this point. Hdr on the other hand is where manufacturers differ, who's misleading us on what and how much is hard to decipher regarding eotf and accuracy along that eotf. The s95c still doesn't have hgig as well as the option for dolby vision (if the content was actually mastered correctly). It also still doesn't have a polarizer so in your bright living room, those blacks... aren't black.. even when off. The lg just does a plain better job overall vs the s95c and especially the s95b, combined with that polariser to keep the blacks black and its almost not a competition in a bright living room. The motion stutter caleb was talking about on the lg though, I believe thats because in the first half of a pixel transition, it changes really fast, then in the second half its rate decreases significantly. I noticed an improvement in motion clarity going from woled to qd at lower frame rates. Woled also just plain better at near black, either less black crush or more accurate gamma, coz qd pixels transitions are a lot slower down low for gaming, so the solution proposed like changing gamma down there have those side effects.
Windows 11 now has autoHDR and converts almost all SDR games to HDR. I don't know any game I currently play or own that can't be converted. There is also Special K which can remap SDR to HDR. Since I bought an HDR TV, I honestly have not played any game, be it classic old games or recent ones in SDR.
I bought S95C a week ago and I am very satisfied with it!
That Sony is really positioning itself well for people who want the most options. G3 not having a stand is not a complete deal breaker but it is inconvenient to the point that I would buy Samsung or Sony just because I have lath and plaster walls. I love my LG CX but that G3 stand is an afterthought and makes the company look pretty bad, it's not something people spending that level on a tv should be getting from the manufacturer and especially not with a price attached. I'm going to have so make a trip into my local bestbuy to see if I can hear the new Samsung soundbar surround setup with the new tv. I have a feeling those transducers, and the time and money spent on r&d, make a big difference in center channel presence for their surround.
Another consideration is source of TV’s programming. As example, are your using a specific streaming box (Amazon Fire, Roku, etc.)
Apple TV supports Dolby Vision. Since Samsung’s TV does not and I own Apple products, I will be going with LG.
LG G3 got 5 Years warranty against Burn in
I went with the S95C the picture quality is just insane the colours pop more I have it on a stand anyway..although it is thinner than the g3 it will look more flush on the wall but I wish it came with a mounting kit
What I’m seeing here is colour clipping on the S95C because the image is oversaturated. It’s the G3 for me; image is more natural in tone. Plus the G3 has Dolby Vision, so I don’t have to worry about tone mapping and missing out on image detail.
what calibration...))) After buying a TV, it must be fully repaired!!! purchase of lg g3 stand $200, audio system another $500, calibration another $500... the TV itself lg g3 77) $4000.... It's better PANASONIC ML2000 MLA Calibrated every tv. individually, audio system bar below the TV. and there is a stand. This is a prestigious extra class super TV. not lg shit, not done, not done. unregulated...LG is a pile of shit! and if you want economy... buy two TVs for one Panasonic. samsung for that price.
It's easier for me to choose between these 2 and it'll be LG G3 and simply for just one reason DOLBY VISION support. Until Samsung implement DV in their TVs, I'll keep my distance away from buying one from them. Fun fact, I can get a pretty good deal on Samsung from Work place, better than BB, Amazon or even Costco. But still, this lack of DV support from Samsung is a no go for me.
These comments about not buying a TV because of no Dolby vision is redundant now.
what percentage off deal? I got a feeling im about to burst your bubble regarding centering your decision around dolby vision support
@@StevoHDA upto 40%
I don't blame you Calieb both these TVS are insanely good this year. I would be happy with either one of them.
Great video! It would be good to point out that the G3 has that 5-yr panel warranty which is the leading manufacturer warranty in the industry right now. Also, the One-Connect box may be a deal breaker for people who have their receivers, streamers, and 4K players significantly far from where the TV is mounted. Sure the Samsung comes with a longer cable as well but it’s only 2.5 meters (8 ft). Plenty of set-ups would need a much longer cable and that One-Connect cable is more difficult to fish through a wall with its thickness and two large connecting ends. And with power running through it is it even in-wall rated for local building codes?
I'm still uncertain here. It appears to me that the 5-yr panel warranty on the G3 is exclusive to USA only. Is this correct?
@@johnd8546 Same warranty exists for the UK and EU. I live in eastern Europe within EU and my TV has the warranty.
I agree about the annoyance of the OC cable length. I've had OC enabled tv's for the last several years and it was great when they offered 30 - 50' cables. Being limited to 8 feet sucks and has forced me to resort to fiber optic HDMI cables.
Also no, the OC cable cannot be run inside the wall, at least not within the bounds of the NEC. Flexible power cables inside the wall is no bueno in the US.
@@johnd8546lso in my country in Europe LG G3 ,C3,B3 models has 5 Years warranty
@@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋonly G3 and Z3 = 5 years warranty in Europe
Thanks Caleb! Can’t wait for you to Compare the TCL QM8 and Hisense U8K, hopefully in 85 inches for both!
I LOVE your honest, no brand favoritism, reviews. It makes it easier to trust your conclusions, especially these days when you may have to purchase a TV without seeing it first! 😀👍👍
I actually bought the LG G2 after your review of it last year. Originally had gotten the S95B, but first one came with 20 rows of dead pixels, second one was completely destroyed out of the box. G2? I couldn’t be happier with it. It’s stunning. Have no issues with dimming in game mode either. It’s awesome. And if you’re mounting it on the wall, it’s actually super easy to do, and I did it myself with no problems at all. I don’t think I’ll upgrade until my G2 is completely dead. It’s plenty bright, looks stunning, has every feature I could ever ask for. Only thing about Both TVs I hate is the software, I’m now religiously using AppleTV 4K on all TVs.
Great video comparison! Way to do it as thoroughly as you did.
that is such a typical samsung story, their quality control just isn't good enough! it's kind of a hit and miss when you buy a tv of them and at this price point, stuff like that just cannot happen!
@@DJ_CJ_NL unfortunately yes. I’ve had a lot of issues with their devices recently, especially after the pandemic started. It seemed like they shut down QC altogether. So I’m not buying anything from that brand anymore. I tend to go with LG, Apple and some other brands, depending on what I’m looking for. So far, LG has been great for me.
I bought an S95C for my home in Canada, previously owning QN90A back home in Croatia. The TV I bought arrives tomorrow and I'm so excited. I was thinking about LG G3 but I was familiar with Samsung's high end models an I like the remote and Tizen while never working with webOS, hence the decision. Next thing on the agenda: either a soundbar or a set of speakers that will go with it for full TV pleasure.
I've actually watched some of those live stream comparisons IN THEIR ENTIRETY! (In segments.) This likely won't happen, but if Sony's A95L could perform as well or better than these sets AND be somewhat similarly priced, then and only then would it be a "easy" decision. (But Sony will likely present us with the egregious Sony Tax again.)
Thank you I purchased this TV. It’s came delivered as I’m writing this. Thank you for the great review. I’m looking forward to the TV. I think you will more than exceed my expectations. I love the way you put the stand together on the last video and with the one connect box is a genius idea makes it so much easier to access the inputsfor gaming and other uses. Samsung 77” S95C
My inflexibility WRT Dolby Vision support isn't that it's clearly superior to HDR10+; arguably it's worse because HDR10+ is an open standard. Heck, the difference between Dolby Vision and HDR10 (not-plus) might be more subtle than I think it is. The issue is that most 4K Blu-rays use Dolby Vision or HDR10 for HDR video, and HDR10+ 4K Blu-rays are not common. The fact that a flagship TV meant for home theaters and media enthusiasts doesn't support Dolby Vision, the most common dynamic HDR format for enthusiast home video, is embarrassing.
I'm not singling out Samsung either: LG should support HDR10+, and it's only slightly less stupid that it doesn't. I also thought the lack of DTS support on pre-G3 LG televisions was idiotic considering DTS was the most common Blu-ray audio standard, but at least you could solve that issue with a home theater receiver.
i was looking forward to this comparison video too!! thank you for this! i loved the callout to FOMO as well LOL. thank u for your honesty.
also, maybe when the sony a95l comes out, we can have a three-way comparison ^^
I think it would be beneficial doing a video comparing DV to HDR.
I know Vincent did a video a while ago and came to the solution that DV mainly helps out lower end TV's and at the premium high end they're essentially similar. It would be interesting to see if the consensus has changed at all over the years.
For example, I know for example a lot of people make a big deal about Dolby vision gaming modes for Xbox series x but analysis has proven that almost all of the dolby vision implementations in games is flawed compared to the HDR10 implementation where I'm really starting to think that the importance of DV is really more mind share than actual practical use.
DV pops so much better than regular HDR. HDR10+ is even better than DV imho but content varies; meaning DV can outshine 10+ at times, so I want to experience DV more often myself since I've enjoyed 10+ so much already and will be waiting on the Sony A95L.
@@justinsugay1149 see idk. Ive never seen HDR10+ but on my A80J there's very little difference between DV and HDR10, maybe DV is 2-5% better? But it doesn't feel like it should have remotely as much importance placed on it as it currently does.
To me, a lot of the no DV = deal breaker is confirmation bias. People are told DV is radically better than HDR10 and has all of these benefits, if you have a DV tv most streaming services don't offer the option to switch to HDR10, if your tv doesn't have DV then you're not gonna see it anyway.
@@darksparda4 I would agree that DV is clearly better but I wouldn't say radically better. That nuance is important. For the most part I agree. DV isn't a deal breaker nor should it be for most. If you're willing to spend the difference and can appreciate it then perhaps it's worth it to that individual but you said it best I believe in reference to the confirmation bias. Best
Thank you for finally naming it as it is. It doesn't matter if HDR10+ is as good as DV. If there is no content in HDR10+, that simply doesn't matter at all.
LG supports Dolby vision...........
So what?
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I personally don’t like Dolby vision and how it looks on my c3. Everything is too dark.
Never
Stop acting like HDR10+ didn't literally look the same
I have a LG C9 and im defiently upgrading this year. I like LG, my C9 is still going strong, no problems whatsoever! I want Dolby Vision, and the 5 year pannel warranty on the G3 is awesome!!! To me Samsung build quality is a little iffy, no D.V. and their terrible firmware updates, and that QD-Oled is only on its second generation (realibility is still a real question), all that and the G3 is a easy choice for me. If I would entertain a QD-OLED (and I still am) I would buy the Sony A-95L. Big thing of course is the superb Sony processing, the negative of course the Sony tax😢. Im waiting to see both tvs many times at my local Best Buy before i buy around Black Friday. All three are great tvs it all comes down to personal preference. Good luck everyone!!!
I thought the "coin toss" was handled very well. In the end, personal choice IS key. You could lessen the reds on one TV or up the saturation on the other. Then they could be even harder to distinguish. I appreciated the dilemma and the forthrightness of the presentation. Great comparison.
Which one would you select for gaming? Thank you for the video
Thanks for an honest comparison Caleb. I’m getting the G3. I’m trusting LGs years in the business and their updates reliability on this one. But definitely hard choice for sure. As for Sony don’t have enough piggy banks to afford one this time. Not at 77 inches.
absolutely great review! love this channel, this didnt help with me deciding, LOL (no fault to you)...i will say though, and dont take this personally, but im scratching my head at how you guys are a 1mil subscriber channel with excellent view counts and TV review focused but somehow cant afford to finance a $30k reference monitor, when little old nobody me who works for myself can afford to finance a $30k lighting console for my work....
Some people say Dolby Vision isn't that Important, but I think most consumers that are used to it appreciate the difference between DV and HDR10.
It's a really noticeable step up from HDR10 to me. Except from a few poor offerings (Pirates of th Caribbean comes to mind), most content really benefits from it.
I couldn't imagine giving up a feature I enjoy the next time I upgrade. You want to gain features, not lose them.
Samsung has HDR10+ which I've only found used in the Amazon Prime app; it's way better than HDR10 too. DV does stand out from regular HDR for sure. Some say HDR10+ is actually even better than DV. So keep that in mind but I hear you. I'm leaning to upgrade my QLED QN90A to the Sonly A95L when it comes out depending on the reviews, specs, etc. and am looking forward to seeing for myself how much better DV is. For those who haven't experienced it they don't know what they are missing but I can say the same for HDR10+ but I believe DV support would be able to match if not exceed at times depending on the content.
Stop the FOMO compared the two extensively with a lot of equipment and he himself said that the difference is barely noticeable and preferred both tv’s in different situations.
@@justinsugay1149 My TV is an OLED that supports DV and HDR10+. Wouldn't really want to give up either but even Amazon have started to support DV instead of HDR10+ so it's basically a dead format now. I can vouch for the quality though.
This is very similar to audiophile discussions. The differences between multi-kilobuck headphones exists, but they are subtle and really down to preference. Do you want more bass? More detail? There's always a tradeoff.
Just a warning to anyone considering an S95C, my S95B is already showing some slight burn in. I've had this panel since May 2022 when Samsung replaced the first panel due to a stuck pixel, and now my unit is out of warranty ☹️.
It's not horrendous, but considering I've only had the unit for about a year I can only imagine how bad it will look later on, so I'm probably going to get a G3 later on this year.
Excellent video...BUT would you choose either over the Sony A95L?
Thanks for the review Caleb I checked out side to side a S90c and C3 in a shop for a while and think the Samsung just was a tad better using the same FTA source material.
I've had 3 Lg tv's 2 of which were Oleds with 0 issues one had done 17k hours but I have just ordered a 77" S95c hopefully ive done the right thing and should have it in 2 days.
It was a tough choice but am wall mounting it and the OCB is a bonus in that respect.
Not having DV isn't a concern HDR10 is still fine and to be honest I can't tell the difference anyway with my old eyes.
I think the trick for looking after your OLED tv's is making sure they run the comp cycles regularly and I used to run the big one every 1k hours. If the TV was going to be on all afternoon then night I would switch it off for a bit to run the 4 hourly cycle rather then just let it run all day.
cheers
I’ll just wait for the Sony A95L nevertheless, love the pop of colors on the QD-OLED
The A95L should beat both of these other tvs.
@@spartan2188 yeah right? That’s what I’m hoping and saving $
My experience for normal viewing of Sony TVs with a Sky satellite box was awful. 3 different boxes and 5 different Sonys offered horrible viewing.
Idk if you've heard this, but you look and sound so much like Andy Serkins! so cool man, also great video! ordered QE55S92CAT yesterday, and can't wait for it!
I got my G3 two months ago, I absolutely love it. I was finally going to make the plunge into OLED last year with a C2, but when I heard of the G3 advancements, I had to wait. I'm so glad I did, the brightness on SDR content is beautiful.
I was pretty much focused on LG, I didn't even consider Samsung. Most of my content is on physical media, so Dolby Vision support made the choice easier.
The stutter from the instant pixel illumination, it's not the best, but Real Cinema on with everything else off is still the best. I'm already used to any stutter.
For me a sum up of which of these tvs you should get are the following. Just tyrna help people out
1. If you mostly watch tv & non-hdr content then Ill get the G3 cause of higher white brightness, better low bit rate content, & higher sport brightness
2. If you mostly watch hdr movies & tv shows then either tv will be great for you but the minor differences might help decide for you.
LG advantages: slightly brighter in white scenes
Samsung advantages: slightly brighter color luminance
* during scenes where white & vibrant colors are mix, both tvs are very identical so keep that in mind
3. If gaming what you do the most then the S95C would be the tv I'll get cause of the following
• Higher game mode brightness
*LG remove game mode brightness boost cause It'll add input lag.
• Better color luminance
• 144hz support
• Has game motion plus. Lg does not
I hope this help makes your decision. Overall theres not a single area where there is a "BIG" difference between the two tvs. If you made it hear, thanks for reading my comment
A great review. I would opt for the LG, because of the Dolby Vision and possibly reduced burn-in risk, but I realize that the Samsung is a great TV.
Agree although I don't like the G3 stand, also not sure how relevant DV actually is in practice since HDR10 still looks phenominal on OLED in person and is more common.
Dolby Vision is a marketed gimmick.
@@JFinns Don't have to use LG's stand.
Hi Caleb, any reason you wouldn’t include the Sony QD-OLED in this comparison as it supports DV?
Don't worry Caleb, most of us can't afford either of these TV's.
What’s the point of this comment? You’re either watching this video because you enjoy TVs, or because you’re looking to buy. If you fall into neither of these categories, then what are you looking for? Such a Debbie downer, for what?
@@johnnyjohnson2826agreed
If Samsung included Dolby Vision which is pretty much standard these days with most all manufacturers of tvs sold today, they would likley outsell every competitor brand, especially with these newer Quantum OLED and
LED models.
LG’s firmware updates and support is way better than samsung’s. This alone is a win for the LG.
You are right..I could not agree more
@@mycolortv1 amen brother. I have the LG C1 and it’s still getting firmware updates.
I noticed you don’t talk about gaming as much as you use to I really enjoyed that part that’s what helped me me make my decision